Cosmic Brilliance - Part 2: Keep Your Innocence & Drop Your Naiveté to Protect Your Children with Tony Rodrigues

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

Merrily Milmoe interviews Tony Rodrigues, a 20-year Experiencer in Secret Space Program’s Intergalactic Slave Trade and Human Trafficking. This is Part 2 continuing with Tony talking about some of t...he more dramatic incidents that he had to go through (without all the horrendous details.) Tony shares his vast and varied experiences started with being kidnapped at 9 years old to become a slave. He was taken aboard a secret spacecraft that took him off-world to Ceres, Mars, and Moon colonies that were built and run by corporations in business and trade agreements with some service-to-self ETs. He also was taken to several drug trafficking locations on Earth/Terra like Peru. It is our duty to become more aware and understand what has been going on to humans for thousands of years on Earth/Terra. It is only by becoming more knowledgeable, that we gain greater discernment to see through and avoid the sneaky pitfalls that have happened to thousands of people and children, without their families even knowing. It really helps to also know how advanced the secret space program tech & ET abilities are so you can also discern better.https://tonyrodrigues.comhttps://cosmicbrilliance.comSupport this podcast: https://www.cosmicbrilliance.com/copy-of-donate

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Starting point is 00:00:24 I might pick up some, a couple threads. So the point about earlier when he, when you were nine, nine years old and you were in school and you were in a class for advanced intelligent, you know, performers. And this Illuminati son was there. And, uh, which means his IQ is high and he has telepathic abilities probably. He was the smartest kid in the class by far. There you go. And so out of innocence, uh, you basically got,
Starting point is 00:00:54 pissed off and he went to his dad and he said blah blah blah blah and so all this rather than like a lot of people are brought in because of their DNA and ancestry is tracked and they have certain abilities they want to hone and use and it's a multi-generational. Your experience came out of just oh my God making an innocent mistake and so his father wanted to punish you out of arrogance and whatever else is going on with them and and public embarrassment because these guys are very elitist a lot of them are hybrids and uh work with you know certain ET groups are kind of not the best and uh they're left as the middle men and middle women here um so basically this whole thing started from that yes i was not groomed for the program so yeah most of the people most of the people that are
Starting point is 00:01:54 taken in these programs are groomed for their position. I was not. I was just labor. And I've said it. I'm speculated before that I believe that they're taking people for hard physical labor from the prisons. They're using the technology to go into the prisons and take people that have been convicted of crimes. And they're using them for slave labor to build out the infrastructure throughout the solar system and nearby stars. And I've said that, that, you know, it's basically slavery. It's perfectly legal. No person in the 13th Amendment says, that no person in the United States shall be made a slave unless convicted of a crime. So it is perfectly legal to do so.
Starting point is 00:02:31 They don't say when there are no parameters, what crime, what level of crime. It doesn't matter. So I think that that's why the prisons are privatized and packed. We have the largest prison population in the world. And I think that that's why. And it was my experience that I was living with people that were prisoners. You know, like the other slaves that I lived with on serious colonies, something like 40, thousand men were in my area. There was a barracks. And they were, they were basically a prison population.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It wasn't, they weren't the, they didn't, it's not, they did not abduct those guys from Harvard, you know, like they were, it was a prison type quality existence. And so that's how they justify it to themselves morally to do it. So I was thrown in unjustly and just for that reason. I was just, these are people that had access to the, to the program. Interestingly, other researchers have told me that they've worked with people that had the same kind of thing, that they were punished, that they did something that embarrassed somebody or made somebody angry or cost them money. And as a piece of revenge, they would end up, they would put them into these programs. So researchers have confirmed that other people have come forward and say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Amazing. And then, then you, of course, then that was the cause of them sending the reps and the grays to pick you up because they work together and all that. And then you went through all kinds of mind programming, horrific stuff. Yes, it was trauma-based. So I was tortured, in fact. And they often try to kill you, bring you back, try to kill you, bring you back, try to kill you, bring you back. To activate, they used to do this to see if there was any abilities hidden that would be activated.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And so is that correct so far? Yes. And in fact, I found a lot of evidence that they, in 82, 83, they even have videos of bragging about we have videos where they say we've had excellent results in bringing children to near death. They were high-fiving about it. So there's a paper trail that coincides
Starting point is 00:04:32 with my information. Yes, exactly. And it's also why they love kids before seven. Because from my understanding, the younger you are, you don't differentiate between reality and imagination. And so you're able to activate more abilities, especially if you have the ancestral,
Starting point is 00:04:52 multi-generational genetic abilities activated. And also, you know, like after seven, it's a little harder for that to activate. And then you also mentioned puberty. So like the menopause time or, you know, 50s, 40s, and then also 13. It seems that those abilities, if you get them young, which is why they get them young, because those don't activate quite as easily. So it's very interesting. It's connected to hormones or something.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And interestingly, I'll say this, that I found that people have worked with since then, there seems to be a common age among females. They go in about 12. Like they get taken at a young age for a short time for some kind of pre, like a pre-appointment. And then right around 12 years old is when they tend to take females. Boys, they can take them younger ages. And most usually later on, like 17, 16 or 17. because they're doing a military service.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So they get, they get abducted several times prior for either training or some kind of screening. You know what I mean? And then the full service, the girls at 12, boys at 17, typically. It's all over the map.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But I'm saying like more often than not, that's what I hear. And that makes sense with the girls because that's when the period starts. And they're working for sex lives. And also worse, which I won't get into. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:06:18 yeah. that's fascinating. Okay. So then you went through that. And then after that, you went to Peru. Well, yes. I noticed you had these abilities. They were testing you for abilities on the plane to predict, to go into the future and predict if any of their planes where they were selling drugs would crash again. There was shipments. Yes. There was danger. Exactly. Right. And they noticed, I thought this was fascinating. they noticed that it wasn't working at some point, and they came to the deduction, which is very accurate for a lot of people now, that there was ELM, you know, MF's, you know, interfering. And so they gave you a woven silver blanket, of which I just gave a friend of mine,
Starting point is 00:07:07 and that assisted you, and then you were able to continue, right? Yeah, the very first trip, so they were monthly plane rides. And the very first one, they were telling me that I cost a lot of money and I better work, or they'd feed me the piranhas. And I didn't. And it was gibberish. They put me under and nothing happened. It was, I spoke gibberish.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And so rather than feed the piranhas immediately, you know, and I was a dead man walking. They didn't want to talk to me. Like, they put me back in my room and that I thought they were going to kill me any day. They called wherever, you know, whoever owned me or wherever they got me from, they called them. And they said that it was probably probably the EM fields of the, um, the, the, um, the, of the airplane. And so they sent down a silver mesh blanket made out of silver and they wrapped me in it the following month I went on the next trip and they wrapped him up in that blanket. And that time when I woke up when I came to, the guy that had been questioning me,
Starting point is 00:08:03 his eyes were about this big and he was just dumbfounded because he said that I spoke. He said that there were times when I spoke Spanish and I don't know Spanish to this day. And there were times when, you know, it wasn't that time, but it was after that he spoke to his dad grandmother came through and spoke to them. So I was, I was channeling entities. You know, it was a technology. And I was, it was channeling, but it was like an industrial grade, you know, psychic ability, psychic medium that they had for these, for this reason. So, but yeah, the silver mesh blanket. And then the, I've also found so researching it that a lot of the project gateway, project center lane, I was in project. The project that I was in was funds,
Starting point is 00:08:43 funds off of, you know, kind of scuffled to the side of Project Grill Flame, which then morphed into Project Center Lane, which then morphed into Project Gateway for the CIA, and this was remote viewing. And when you go back and research them, they had EM booth. They had like a phone booth with a Faraday cage where they were putting people into do remote viewing. So this is something that turned up after I went on record with what I said, you know, I mean, information that I didn't know about until afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe at this time, since we're talking about how, you know, you're able to channel entities
Starting point is 00:09:21 and people on the other side who had crossed over since death isn't really real, at this point, we should bring in what I think was amazing. And I don't want to give it away when this voice came in. when did that happen it was when they were torturing you so this was right so at the end of the at the end of the programming they put us into what they called they were to testing to see what we'd be best for like if we qualified to do the psychic service and what they did was so this was in in yokein in a cairn in yon is an airport just west of china lake in southern California and that's where I was. I identified the buildings. So there's a diagram. So there's
Starting point is 00:10:09 China Lake. So west of that maybe 10 miles, you know, is in your current airfield. And on that airfield is there were like portables. The buildings are still there. But at the time that I were there, they were portables. And they've since been knocked down and then replaced with like a garage. The buildings are still there. And before I go into what they did during the torturing, I just want to remark on the buildings that I hire, I didn't hire, but a guy that's a very talented researcher, like an internet, like a hacker, volunteered to help me. He said, he saw my videos. He was a fan. He said, he helped me out. And he got onto a database of every structure's tax assessment in the United States. So every single structure in the United States has a website.
Starting point is 00:10:57 There's a website that has the tax assessment data. And he said, for those, he said, now, what buildings were they? And I circled them and I emailed them. And he came back and he said, you know what's funny is on this website, which is a government regulated site that has every structure in the United States because it has the data on what it's worth. Those buildings don't exist. And he said, so I sent a picture on Google Earth. Brad, Brad Olson has since drove there and put me on a Skype call and was showing me pictures. So they do exist. He found. Yeah, Brad's been great. he really grilled me when I met him in Vegas and he concluded, you know, he was a fan of, he supports my info. So I'm a fan of his.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I think Brad's a great job. I like him. But what he found was that those buildings are classified as a California special district. And just inside those buildings, local law enforcement doesn't have law jurisdiction. So even if they witness a crime inside the building, the law enforcement doesn't have the right to go in and arrest anybody inside those buildings. So there's another coincidence that, and I went on the record about those buildings in 2015, long before any of this turned up. This was just like a year and a half ago that he drugged that up for me. There's something like 3,000 sites in California that are classified special district like that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And so if you were going to have an torturous trauma-based mind control program in a building, that's the means that a program would make it perfectly legal. It was actually legal for what they were doing. So, but what they did was they put us. They always figure out all the loophole. That was the loophole. Exactly. So if they got caught, there was a loophole. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:37 What they did was they put an oxygen tent. They put me on a bed with an oxygen tent when they gave me like EKGs to do to monitor brain activity. And they put an inert gas in the tent and suffocated me. And then when I got close to death, there was a belt like literally like the bell at a bell ding. you know, like one of those bells was set up, you know, crudely with the machine. So it knew that once I was close to death, you know, when I flatlined, when I began to flatline, the bell would ring and it would pump air back in. And I would come back to life.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And it was doing that near death. And what happened is it happened over and over again for hours. And after so many times of it, I began to really, like, I began to consciously, like, feel myself leaving my body. And when the bell would ring, the air would come. I would get jerked back into my body and feel the pain again, the actual, you know, the exhaustion from it all from no sleep. And what happened was after a certain time, I cried for help on the other side. Like I was literally like leaving my body in, you know, the light and everything, living that experience.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And I said, somebody helped me up there. And a voice came through my body and said, hey, let this kid die. And the light flickered around it. And they said, the nurse, the doctor, we've got one here. They came over and they tested it. They did it a couple more times. They asked me questions. And then that was what they needed to verify that I was going to work for that program.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And then they gave me oxygen and let me sleep. And that was how it began. But it was like I spoke as an adult. I was 10 years old at the time. And I spoke to them, you know, like, part of my language, it was kind of like, hey, asshole, let this kid die. You know what I mean? It was like I spoke with authority.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And I was a child. So that was something. That was what they were after. would you say that was your higher self, a guide, or what? What was your time? It felt like it was me. It felt it felt like it was me, but, you know, I cried for help. I was crying for help and nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And so I kind of did it myself. And I remember being very angry. I remember being outside of my body very angry. I was very angry at the time. And that's what happened. Fascinating, isn't it? But then, of course, the bad news of that is they realized that you could access. And now they're going to redirect you more into what, psychic programs a little bit?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Exactly. So the following day, he called me into his office. He said, I didn't think you had it in you, but you qualified for theta. And it went into remote viewing exercises. We had people from the Monroe Institute came and helped with the gateway process. and we had, they had a set of a cocktail of, I don't want to say drugs, but like, like, what am I, like supplements that we took? A cocktail of supplements that we took, they said it was very expensive, and we had to take them, and then we get, they regulated us. Everything was scientific.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They regulated our sleep, and we were doing remote viewing exercises after that point. And then put under, you know, they were running, they were running the experiment on it. They tested us. And then I was sent to Seattle immediately after, and they ran it there and tested it. I was privately owned by whoever owned that house in Seattle. I don't publicly say who it was. But they tested it. And then I was shipped off to Peru because, you know, like they tested me a few times at that technique.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And this also shows you that they all have infiltrators in there that are still coming and doing these programs, part of the programs at some point. are siphoning kids or siphoning people to down certain channels in every in schools, in churches, everywhere. They do exactly. They do aptitude test of the kids that are going to be good at this. I did find that actually Robert Monroe himself did at one point have classified clearance. And that's public record that he was, he was, it's in the, I got that on the CIA declassified library.gov.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Absolutely. That Robert Monroe did get funded and paid to come out. and do work on experiments and was given top secret class classification. So that was another form of evidence. Like I said, there's a mountain of evidence. It's all circumstantial. Every time I look at something, I keep waiting for the shooter drop to prove me wrong, and I can just quit.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But it always doesn't prove me completely right, but doesn't just prove it like it supports it. So it's time and time again. I know. It's frustrating, but it still allows free will. And most of the ones who give you a hard time have not done one ounce of research. You know, that's exactly right. Part of the whole game of that is you keep people enslaved so they have to work and raise families and don't have time to do the research.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I've done six hours a night for 43 years and chose not to get married or have kids so I could do that. Right. So it's like I totally respect people not having time, but enough enough. And didn't you actually see, am I making this up? Because when I was first told this was an enslaved planet, I was one of those that had a pretty good life, fortunately. and I thought, oh, no way, you know, all this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And then the more I studied, I'm like, holy moly, you know, I kind of went from totally polarized to light to like, okay, merely time to wake up, you know, from that innocence to discernment. Okay, I've got to understand the whole game and discernment. Weren't you shown a picture from the reps or somebody that actually referred to Tara, which is the galactic name for Earth or Earth? with a chain around it, meaning it's one of their enslaved planets? On Syria colony, they did, the Earth always had a chain around it and representing that it was, they believe that they were fully in charge of everything here and the Deutsch, that it was a corporation that they basically owned it. That, you know, that the corporate relationship, like they didn't person,
Starting point is 00:18:41 the series colony corporation did not own the Earth, but that the Earth was under control and their jurisdiction. And that it was, in fact, you know, in the cargo, when I worked later on, when I worked on a cargo ship, that was the relationship. We would just go down and tell, we went to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and picked up cargo. We would just tell them what cargo we wanted and it would be there and we would come pick it up and it was basically free of charge. We were just taking, you know what I mean? It's coming out of the black budget money, dollars and being traded off-worlded. Whatever cargo it was, it didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Sometimes weapons, sometimes goods, you name it, raw material. pharmaceuticals, everything. We would off-world it and trade it to other species for technology or other things that they needed. And the world would pay the tab and get nothing for it. So yes, that's exactly. Right? Wouldn't you go in the middle of the night? It was always at night.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It was always at night. And that's basically what slavery is, is free labor, free goods. It's amazing. This is why people need to live. learn all this wake up and say enough already. It's just like, yeah. The Reich, you know what I'm saying, the World War II Germans, that was their long-term plan.
Starting point is 00:19:57 They openly stated that they were going to have slavery permanently in the society, that they were, it was going to be, you know, the same model as the Romans had. The Romans had slavery. And the serious colony did have a very real, they did have a very real aspect of promising you the ability to earn your freedom, the same way the Romans did. It was unattainable.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Really, it was unattainable, but there was a pod. They said every now and then somebody had to earn their freedom. It's because it kept you chasing it. It kept you working and in line because you thought, I'm going to earn my freedom one day and I'll be a hero. And so it wasn't realistic, but it was something that they said. And the, the, whatever, Third Reich Germans and on and on, it was basically the same exact system. Well, controlled by the same. It's also a very hierarchical pyramidal.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So, you know, rather than circular, which I believe is the true design. Like, you know, so yeah, it's amazing. And folks, he mentioned, you know, that he was qualified for the theta. And as you know, there's four brainwaves, but there's also a fifth one that's talked about called gamma. And that it's a range, but 40 hertz is one of the things they look for in a brain. and one super soldier that Elena talked to and he was killed a couple days later and caused a lot of distress for Elena, he was brought into the program because he was able to make gamma waves at will. So they probably had a very big interest in you when you're like, he's at theta, right?
Starting point is 00:21:35 That's exactly what they're looking for is people that are attainable in these techniques. And, you know, I wasn't profound at it. You know what I mean? I was like the bare minimum. I was I was not profound at it. There were, there were kids, there were a couple of kids in the class that were profound that had a great deal of accuracy. And whenever they did any of the remote viewing or, you know, the exercises we did, they were very accurate. They were, they were very good at it. So those are the kids they look for. We're starting to see them. I didn't know until I went public. I got contacted by people that were professional psychics.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And I go, okay, you know, I didn't want to say, I didn't want to doubt it. or anything. So I said, okay, and I went along, but after I met some and hung out with them and actually see what they can do with some of their psychic ability, that I was, I was, I always believed in it, but not on that level that it really is, is that there are some people that are very profoundly gifted in extrasensory perception that, you know, there are everyday people, but they can't speak about it publicly for the same reason that, you know what I mean? People skeptic are skeptical about UFOs because we're programmed to laugh at it. And so everybody's programmed to not believe in it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It is a very real thing. It is a very real talent. Everybody can hone it as some amount of it. But some people are just absolutely gifted the same way that people are gifted at sports. Absolutely. And but it's also, you know, the peer pressure, even though that's understandable, but just like whatever, it's understandable for survival. But also it serves in a bizarre way because as people. keep it to themselves.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And in many cases, that might have saved their life. Absolutely. Everything. Taking blood, monitoring your DNA since birth, all that is tracked. I get, I've been asked many times, well, how do I protect my child against what happened to you? There's really not. Is it?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Well, yeah. Well, you know what I mean? Like there's, you got to be concerned when you hear what happened to me at a young age. And there's really no foolproof way. But I always say, you know, teach your children to say no. like I was tricked into giving consent, teach your children to say no regularly to be able to say no to people. And you know what I mean? Like in a strange environment to immediately say no.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And, you know. I do not comply. You do not have my permission. And I revoke all agreements through time and space, you know? I don't recommend it because it's something that's not for everybody. Certainly some people could use the technique. But I say, you know what I mean? Like tell your kids not to be stellar on the exams either.
Starting point is 00:24:14 in the early age, you know, they're looking for that outstanding kid. And so it may not work in their favor. Like, how often does it matter nowadays? Like, college really has fallen to the wayside of what it used to be. The value of college is certainly not what it used to be. And so, you know what I mean? Knocking the SATs out of the park may be detrimental at this point. So I hate to even say that.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I don't want to speak against it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I hate to say it. But that is one way to avoid these kind of things. And if people have a history of trauma around UFology or some kind of, you know, aspects of weirdness, I call it weirdness. If somebody has that, then that's something that they may give actual consideration to. Not to mention that science that is taught in school and most stuff that's taught in school
Starting point is 00:25:05 is over almost 100 years behind time. And not even accurate. So, yeah. I mean, some more and more homeschooling. They're going to Rudolph Steiner schools and stuff, but all that takes more time. And as long as we're still playing the game where we have to, you know, have money to work. It's just a very interesting thing. But I see that all imploding on itself.
Starting point is 00:25:27 It's going to implode on itself more and more and more and more. The thing is, you know, I think people, and I don't want to sound like some radical, but I think many of the mechanisms of the everyday, of the machinery of government, are going to have to return to people are going to have to do it themselves. A lot of the things, you know what I mean? Because we're seeing that it's not our government. It's an external force that's controlling our government with money and writing, you know what I mean? Like, it's detrimental.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like school isn't what it used to be. My children go to us, they're learning things in school that make no sense from what I learned. And it was the same with my parents that I can't believe what they're teaching you nowadays. We used to learn so much more about the United States history. And so school has definitely been weaponized. Oh, yeah, everything. And they hide archaeology and they hide proof of stuff. It's like, you know, it's, it's just ridiculous at this point. And yeah, so keep trucking on. So, okay, so we left off where you're in Seattle. And in Seattle was horrific without naming names, but it was absolutely horrific for you because most people don't know that Seattle is a base for this stuff. It tends to be a hot spot for this culture. So for the over culture that I say is like it's probably a lot of people say that there's like a vortex there that, you know, like the world, the world has areas that are more interject than others.
Starting point is 00:26:49 It's like, I don't know if that's the case. But Seattle is definitely jam packed with people of this culture. And we're seeing many billionaires. There's a lot of, a lot of aggregation of power in that area, especially in aerospace and in, you know, in industry. There's a lot of people, very powerful people there. And there are people like myself that have come forward that have witnessed the Satanism. Yeah. It happened to me in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I was in Seattle. And then the trafficking. And then they also, you would be, Stanley Kubrick, if I'm remembering this right, did two movies. Eyes White Shep, which is totally accurate. And Clockwork Orange, which had aspects of it. And then he was taken out. So basically in Seattle, this house that was a mansion and with your owner who was female and her husband was off about a lot, they would occasionally have these horrific parties. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And the parties involved, you would have to, you would stay in your rooms during the day. And then you would be brought out on the wall. They were fundraisers for the local politics. At the time, they were Republican Party fundraisers. There were people from Washington came there. Local, they were fundraisers for local, like the mayor of Seattle. You know what I mean? They were for the political party.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And I'm not throwing one party under the bus. These are people that are inside. But during the day, they would have a picnic party. You know, on the property, it was a very big property. And after the public left, they had a few hundred people that stayed that were, you know, part of the culture, a different party would ensue where they had open sex, sexuality, and drugs, and they had their own recording. This is another, there are a few corroborating things that corroborated my story, especially early on. It was the, the things that I witnessed there that
Starting point is 00:28:53 checked out that gave, that enabled other researchers to keep working with me. But the music, I heard the music and I knew the songs so later on when I got back and I lived my life in the 80s, 86, 85 and 86. I heard the same songs again. I thought they were old songs because they were old for me, but they had just come out. But they had their own playlist and they had things like a guy would come over, you know, the PA in between songs and go, do as you wish, this is the sum of the law. And, you know, like they had their mix, like a DJ mix.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And it was like satanic undertones that they had. But we were used as a sex service. I live there with myself for a couple of years with usually six or seven boys. and they had another house where they kept the girls and their girls were on stage. And we were basically, you know, an attraction at the party for them. So that went on. And we had to take pills every day and they changed the formula. And so I got allergic to it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And that's how they decided to sell me off to the military. I believe I was about 16. They didn't celebrate my birthday. But I believe I was about 16 at the time when I finally got out of there. Yeah, because they love to keep people skinny and on drugs. that's exactly right and they they're partially starved and we were starving we had
Starting point is 00:30:06 we barely had food and we were starving and we were abused badly during these you know like the like for days afterwards we were beaten and so we for days afterwards we would lay around they we got the leftovers from the party so the following day we ate you know we got to eat good but the rest
Starting point is 00:30:23 of the time we had very you know one egg one piece of toast one little salad one brick of tofu that was all our food we had they kept us skinny and with just simply saying these politicians these people would be given permission with all you boys change in lawn to do anything they want sexually and etc so just saying unbeknownst to them we were aware they told us to point in a certain direction unbeknownst to them they were being filmed so there were a lot of people that were being filmed so yes exactly
Starting point is 00:31:00 Exactly. This is the naivete of the human race and mammals. They go, oh, I can't possibly all that be going on. And I'm like, you don't think like a reptilian or you got to think like a predator. And predators are like, how do we keep everybody obeying us and doing what we do? All we have to do if you have a family as we walk up and we go, we're going to slay your kids in front of your face if you ever talk. You know? That's right. And most people that have kids go, no. way that's how it happens well and they film you well the the the the the psyche that goes into politics are people that wouldn't even care if you slayed their kids some people are very you know what i mean the psychopath mind but if you tell those people like look we've got pictures of you now you're going to be in jail for a pedophilia they're going to do whatever they say they don't care and they're you know what i'm saying like they're going to they're going to continue because of their ego and they're absolutely right their hunger for power yeah okay so Whoa. And also I remember one early on, that Illuminati guy said to you, well, do you believe in God? And you said, yes. They said, oh, well, we're going to knock that out of you.
Starting point is 00:32:12 That was the very first day of the program. Like the very, very first day they asked me, if I remembered anything, he was giving me a medical exam. Do you remember your mom? No. I had no memory. Do you remember your dad? No, I don't remember. Do you believe in God? I said, yes. He said, well, we'll take care of that. Because they, they program. to atheism on us and they pushed atheism because they don't want you to if you're ever in this instance where you've got to pull a trigger for instance they don't want you to empathize with another living thing they want you to believe that there's no there's no afterlife there's none of that that was a reoccurring thing even in series colony they pushed atheism on most of the populace when really the commanding elite there i was aware of had their own form of religion where they did believe in a creator god they did they did worship but it was a it was a it was a was it restricted like an old ancient religion.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Oh, yeah, Babylonian and past, yeah. What was I going to say? Oh, a couple of people interviewed that were involved in the knockwaffe and super soldier program and maybe it's different things and then kind of broke free because folks, most of these guys are assets and they're sold to the highest bidder also. Oh, now you're going to go here. Okay, now you're going to go to this corporation. Now you're going to do this, right?
Starting point is 00:33:25 That's exactly right. But what, gosh, what was just in my mind? Oh, oh, this was important. So the knockoff, and I just call them the knockoffin group, they were told growing up, and there's multi-generations that have been grown up on ships on planets. They were told that Earth was destroyed and didn't exist. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And people on series, the populace on series were told that as well. There was a certain level. It was an urban legend that Earth was still a lot that was still populated. And they had doubt about it. And people were not allowed to talk about it, the same way we're seeing subjects today being suppressed. It was the same thing there, but very, very much so. But they told people there was no earth to worry about going back to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So that makes you hopeless. That makes you give, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. So let's move on to the interaction with the Anteatians. because I think that's fascinating. Okay. Is that kind of linear? Are we going kind of linear?
Starting point is 00:34:34 So, yeah. So after I was sold off from Seattle, I went to the moon, the backside of the moon, to a base there, and was another round of trauma base. Not really traumatic, though. It was less traumatic, but like mind programming. And it was against to a race, fight or flight response. And then I was a support soldier. It tested us in an arena in one of the bases back of the moon against a giant insect. and it worked and so they shipped us off to Mars and it was a flight to Mars on a larger craft
Starting point is 00:35:03 and then I landed and there was an underground city. Is that this one? Well, all that was underground. So everything was underground. There was a huge dome that was underground that was you could see through, but you could see dirt on the other side of it. And it looked like a mall. It was a very modern place.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And I was quickly shipped off to a forward base that looked more like a. like a school on the inside or like a government facility. And I was there for a matter of months. And we were, we did combat missions. Basically just hiking out into the desert, you know, under the surface. And then we were locating insectoids. And they got engaged a few times. And we got engaged.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And there were losses. There was a heavy, like a dust storm. We got separated from the soldiers that had given us support fire. We got separated from them. and the bugs engaged us, the insectoids, and there were several different kinds. That's a picture that I had an artist do, art of con.com. And that's what they look. The rear end of it looked different, a little smaller.
Starting point is 00:36:10 But the front of it, that's basically what he looked like. And I had been wounded, and he walked up on me and interacted with me, I guess, psychically. And it scanned me to know what, it wanted to know what we were, because we were something new on the battlefield, a new type of, you know, unit on the battlefield. So it came to scan me and figure out what we were. And at the end of it all, he said, you know, this isn't you kind of thing. Like he knew that I wasn't a stone cold soldier and it let me live.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And then the soldiers came a few minutes later. The bugs took off and the soldiers came a few minutes later and carried me back to base. And I woke up the next day healed. I had lost an arm. They had bit off an arm and one foot under my ankle was severed. And the next morning, I woke up in a hospital bed with my arm and my ankle back and I don't know how it happened. Med beds. I'm telling you medbeds. I know you're conscious during it, but med beds can do that easily. Yeah. Yeah. Let me backtrack a little bit because I know we're getting, we've gone quite a long time here and appreciate your generosity. Thank you so much, Tony. Because I know it's not easy when you repeat these
Starting point is 00:37:29 stories. It's probably like you relive them, you know. It's a bit of that, but I think I've gotten good at it. I've done so many, so many of these now. And, you know, over half of them been deleted. So that's why we created the Patreon channel. And I still do them because I thank God, the book is out now because it's harder to delete the book when it's in somebody's hand. Right. But I think this is very important information because this is what goes on and has been going on. Yeah. And people need to be aware of it. And it dovetails, you know, Randy Kramer on Mars, fighting Antids. It dovetails, you know, Mark Richards, who I've had multiple interviews with early on. And he talked about Antids. And so, you know, Antids is kind of the name for this character
Starting point is 00:38:13 for the most part. But let's backtrack just as mention. So basically, the job you had there was to be suicide mission. That's right. And bait and bait. So explain that to people. We were a, we were trained to suicide in combat. So to fight or flight response. They just erased the, the flight response. And we were given, we were given certain kinds of weaponry. And our suit, we were, so the soldiers we went out with were in a great deal of camouflage, like a very advanced armored camouflage suit, environmental suit that they had. And we were in a bright white, rubber rubbery suit. It was very comfortable. It's literally the most comfortable thing I've ever worn, but it was white on the Martian landscape. So we stood out and they'd put three of us at a time
Starting point is 00:39:03 and send us a walk. And then they would be up on a hill walking alongside of us, you know, a mile away and cover us. So that that was the plan. It was a bounding maneuver. And there was lighter gravity. So you walked slowly. But when we ran, you had to, you didn't run. You eventually, you started hopping. But we just slowly walked out, walked in the gravity. It wasn't bad until you were in a hurry. And what happened was the insectoids adapted to the strategy much faster than they were supposed to, they were predicted to, they were predicted to adapt, but they did it much
Starting point is 00:39:40 quicker than what they were expected to. So they canceled the program. So what happened is, do you, do you not want to talk about it? How do you feel about it? No, go ahead. Okay, in terms of, so you were sent out the two soldiers, right, and you were sent out as bait to attract the antids and the spiders that were part of their group to, as they come attack you as bait, the soldiers are supposed to take them out.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That's right. So on the first two missions, we did other missions during the day. and, you know, we were in a rotation. So there were, I believe, 12 of us and three would go out. And then the next day, three different guys would go out and we rotated. So it was, you know, it would be a week before I went out again. This particular mission, there were two sets of three. And we got split up.
Starting point is 00:40:38 They gave us, they gave us, I don't know what it was, was the navigation experiment, but it was a different route. and three of us were told to go and stay within range of the soldiers that were on the hillside on the side of a mountain. And then the other three of us were told given a map to go the other way, a different way. And we argued over it and were split up. And what happened was we got out of range of where the soldiers could cover us. And that's when the bugs, you know, they wanted to test and see how, I guess what their aptitude was. And if they knew where the soldiers were, however they did it, whatever the program was trying to do,
Starting point is 00:41:15 we were kind of put on a, we were kind of bait on a hook and, and we took losses because of that. And the other thing, I survived it, but there were two others that didn't. So we took losses. They couldn't be reconstructed on the med beds because there was two, they were in pieces. Yeah, exactly. They were, yeah, they had been dead for a long time. We had, we had auto tourniquet devices that were, you know, that was a, that was a, common injury, have a limb bit off by some of the larger insects. So they had turniquets available auto turnicates. The soldiers had them in their armor. Randy Kramer told me about that. And I imagined was real. It makes perfect sense. And we had like one per person. We had an auto tourniquet. So it was like a cigarette pack and you could pull the band out and then press
Starting point is 00:42:06 a button and it would tourniquet the arm. And I used mine and I took another one off a dead body and put it on my foot. And that's what saved me. You know, I'd lost a lot of blood, and that's why I lost consciousness when we got back. So you heard, you just saw all this dust, and you heard these behind you,
Starting point is 00:42:26 these major, you know, whatever. And they were on you immediately, and there's these smaller spiders, and there are, there's authentic photographs found on Google of these spiders, by the way. Really? Yeah, one's backed under,
Starting point is 00:42:42 a cave a little bit. And so there's spiders, which are a big issue to fight because they're a lot smarter than you think. And then, so they went ahead and they pretty much shumped off everybody because they have these big pinchers. And you kind of lost. So you had fallen. And what happened is one of the head honchos, I guess you could call him the anti-commander, who was different than the spiders. he came forward and he had the two antennas at the top of his head. And this is one of the ways that they can access your memories. And after he was relating also telepathically to his superior base far away. He was describing me to something else that was also there that I had no idea of what it was.
Starting point is 00:43:34 But he was like, so what happened was we were engaged. I was the last one behind, like there were three of us when we began running, we began hopping. And I was the last one. So I was engaged. I got one shot off and I had my arm bit off. And a spider stood on me and pinned me to the ground. And over the over, I saw a bunch of little smaller beetle liking ones that went over the dune and killed the other two men that we were, that I was with. I begged it for my life.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It held me there. and then the mantid walked up. And as it got closer to me, I could feel it. I don't know how to, all of it to explain it, but you could feel it. And when it got close to me, its antennas were moving randomly. And when it got close to me, they both went and pointed at me. And I went into a complete dream state with it. I didn't feel any of the pain of my arm.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And it began to show me areas. It showed me, all of a sudden, I was standing back in the base that I just came from. There was nobody else there, but I was inside this. the base and it was telling you know and then it was back it showed Seattle it showed the moon we were rooms and back in Seattle I was in the house in Seattle and then back to Inyo Kern into the into the room where the it went and it was telling something else about it and it eventually showed me my house that I was abducted from in Michigan that I had no memory of I had no idea where that was he said this is who you are this is what you are and then I woke up I felt the pain
Starting point is 00:45:03 come back and I woke up and it let me live. And because I was begging it for my life the whole time. Please don't kill me. I don't want to die. And it let me live. Why did it let you live? I want you to tell me. Well, because it had determined that I wasn't there in it as my, I guess my life's purpose
Starting point is 00:45:20 was I wasn't a warrior. I wasn't a killer. It had determined that I wasn't going to be a threat to it. And it let me go because he said my, I had a different purpose. And my purpose was love oriented. and so that's key Tony it didn't determine that the other thing that the other thing that that it was talking to had determined that like it was superior yeah and if if i would have been you know because some people are born to be fighters and you know and if i would have been that
Starting point is 00:45:49 i believe it would have killed me on the spot yeah so that you ask for hell and and this is important to know the and of course your military probably didn't realize how incredibly advanced and intelligent these beings are i think they did but they they had they had things in the past you know what i mean like they had an ongoing study of them and so they didn't expect them to behave the way that they did so they did know that they were intelligent but they again they were the military can as to think a lot more bluntly you know yeah they don't care about how big deep you can think it's how good you do kind of thing yeah so i think that it was all performance based when they thought about how when they assessed them yeah
Starting point is 00:46:31 rather than how good they pick up strategies and different things, not to mention read your minds. And it's important, folks, that, you know, these people were all, these beings are all protecting different territories, okay, on the moon and Mars, too, according to Randy. And they're not all bad. You know, it's important to know that we have mantids we work with and higher levels and all of that. And they have amazing capacities. So this one was a mantid rather than an anted. The one that...
Starting point is 00:47:04 It looked just like that picture that you held up. Okay. Okay. It looked a lot like that. So I don't forget what I was going to say that, I think that they had went prior and asked them. They had made communication with the insectoids and said, can we access this area? We need to research this area.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And it's a hard no that they wouldn't budge on it. So they had to find another way to get in to access territory. that the insectoids were indigenous in because for whatever reason. We also, in our first hike, we found ruins. There were ruins. There were millions of years old. They were rock formations that somebody had come along and stacked rocks up. And we were told that the archaeologists had already been there and studied it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 But there were rock formations that somebody, you know, like people do at the beach, how they stack rocks. These were very tall, 20, 30 foot tall columns that the rocks were stacked up. So we had found ruins of something that was there before. So there was resource. There are things that there on Mars that are, you know, there's obviously a history there. There's life there. On every, every planet, every place, every, you know. It's like underground.
Starting point is 00:48:16 We found open caverns in previous cities and stuff. And then we just built on that, you know. Well, I'm really hoping that that's the plan for disclosure that when we start going to the moon, the man missions to the moon and perhaps Mars very soon, that they're going to go there and find ruins, and that will qualify us to share and be contacted by. Like, I think it'll be quick. Like, disclosure isn't going to be just life out there with bacteria.
Starting point is 00:48:39 It'll be intelligent life. And, oh, now that you found us, here we are. Now we can talk to you kind of thing. That's my hope. Well, there's nothing that pisses those groups off more when you don't show respect and try and push the envelope. And Randy was saying you had these occasional skirmishes several times a week. but he was eventually able to befriend one telepathically.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And it's like when they say no, they mean no. I've studied multiple species and all their agendas and all their cultures and all their things. And it's just like having a cat in your home that actually has part reptilian, right? It has the four things that reptilogy. It breathes, you know, it smells through its tongue and it loves torturing, helpless little mammals. And it's high pupils are that.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And, you know, it has the same thing. But everyone love what we love it. Why? Because we accept them for what they are. And that's where we need to go with appropriate boundaries. Right. That's what disclosure is going to be. Well, disclosure is going to be that.
Starting point is 00:49:43 We are going to post disclosure when we begin to interact at some point. It may be soon. It may be a long time. Who knows? But at some point, we are going to interact with other species in the cosmos because they're everywhere. and they're accessible. They're highly accessible.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Well, I mean on a public level. I mean publicly. Well, isn't there 360 species that are walking around on the sidewalk that look a lot like us? Yeah. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is we have a defined way of behavior. Yes. We have etiquette. We have our own set of manners.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And we are going to have to interact with entire species of humans even and other species that are very smart. they have their own set of manners that we don't necessarily, we aren't necessarily going to approve of. And we're going to have to get rid of the stigma that we punish people or that, you know what I'm saying, we're going to have to be very much more open-minded than we currently are. And we're already seeing it, the kids. The kids nowadays are very much more open-minded than we were allowed to be or led to be. And it's a good thing. So we're going to see that happen and it's going to get even better.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It is, Tony. I'm excited. Well, they know it takes four generations to change a paradigm. And this whole Envoy program and everything else has been over multiple generations. And then, of course, the young kids, as you know, are raised on all these Star Wars, Star Trek. All those were different levels of disclosure because most of those authors were insiders, right? So we are going to do this. And I so, so appreciate you coming forward because I know I know you're used to it, but I still know it brings up each time you share it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And I hope that people learn to say no in a nonviolent way and mean it and wake up and hold your ground. And be expansive because we have an amazing experience. And you also very right, as you know, is that every species has a protocol. So if you're respectful and if you know their protocol, you know, and the biggest thing, oh, my God, we have to finish by you telling this amazing story. Are you too worn out? Are you too worn out? No, I'm good. I'm good to go all of.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Okay. When you started moving from slave status to earning extra points through self-sacrificial missions, there is one spectacular one, I mean, unbelievable one, where you were going up the sides of one of the tallest buildings in Chicago. Well, that was actually before, so we're fast-forwarding it. After the program was canceled on Mars, I was set back to a large city, Aries Prime, probably. And they gave me aptitude tests to see what I'd be good for. And then retrained to do ship rip maintenance, basically spaceship maintenance.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And I was sold off to the Series Colony Corporation at that point. So I was there for a couple months being trained and going through that. Who knows? I kind of lost track of time. And then I was shipped off and then went to a series colony behind me. And when I got there, it was immediately found that it was like a World War II German facility and military, very heavily militarized. And I was in a prison type situation. And whatever, I don't want to get into like every little detail of it.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's why the book is, that's why the book is so valuable these days. It's so easy to say, I never had it before where I could say, just read the book. Everything's in there. Yes. But I was working on a ship for many years and I did maintenance on the ship, but I didn't even know if it was moving or if it was on, what was going on. And I didn't look out the window. It was a smaller ship and it was a very miserable experience for those years. I was programmed to not be able to kill myself and I wanted to die.
Starting point is 00:53:35 You know what I mean? Like suicide was the only way out and I didn't know how it. So I volunteered. They asked me one day if I wanted to volunteer for dangerous and dangerous. missions in the in the hopes of being promoted more quickly and so I did and one of the missions was they took us to the moon we went to the moon and we went to a more classified lower level of of the moon base so there are different hangers at different levels in depths inside the moon so you'd fly in a crater and then there's a hanger and there you could keep flying and go down and those were highly classified
Starting point is 00:54:08 we went to one of the lower ones and I was taken into a room a portal room and they briefed us and it was a mission to go and replace what they said was Quicksilver, which was Mercury. And there was an E.T. That was on, living in the top floor of one of the skyscrapers in Chicago that was living in, that it was a being that lived in lighter gravity, less than one G of the earth. So it had an anti-grab system that was disguised as an air conditioning unit on top of the building. So on the very top of the building, there was an air conditioner that was actually an anti-grav unit,
Starting point is 00:54:47 and the rooms under it, it lived in lighter gravity and conducted its business, whatever it was doing. So the air conditioner that is on all top, a lot of buildings in Chicago, was used as a disguise for an anti-gravity machine inside it. Yes. Okay. Exactly. That's exactly right. It had malfunctioned and leaked out mercury. Mercury was the only key components.
Starting point is 00:55:09 They called it Quicksilver. And so we portaled down. But they were experimenting with several technologies in the same mission. And so they made us portal into a lower parapet area, like in a stairwell. And we wore harnesses that made us like 60% lighter than what we were. We had backpacks with canisters of mercury. And electric cups, they were electric. They didn't suction cup.
Starting point is 00:55:35 They were flat, but they were electrically powered with batteries. And they would stick to the glass. And it was at night when the office. were closed and we scaled up the side of the building. And when we got up to the top, we went through the repair. They briefed us. One of us was way proficient and we refilled it. It was basically a lame duck mission.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Like we didn't even need one guy could have did it and it could have been in and out in 15 minutes. But they made us all go before five of us went. And we scaled up the top. And then when we were done, we were told to face the moon. but another being actually came out. And it was wearing a suit that gave off a gas. And when it got close to us, you could see that even on its face, it's mass. It was shooting out little gases, like little tiny streams of gas all over it.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And it gave it the effect of invisibility. So whatever, like it was like the gas, like inside the suit, it was, it had a projector. And the gas was a screen that the projector was projecting on and showing the back of it. So it was invisible to the naked eye. And when you got close, you could see. see the gas. I mean, you could see the image of behind it. So I couldn't tell what it was. And I could see its eye. And it was a large reptilian, like a yellow reptilian eye. Like huge. Yes. Yes, very big. Two inches, two and a half inches big of eyeball. And it came down
Starting point is 00:56:57 to us and it commandeered us mentally. So it had the ability to make us paralyzed. I wanted to vomit and pee and poop all at the same time. And I felt very sick. Immediately. when it contacted us and it was it said it was going to murder one of us that um which one was it going to be today kind of thing it's going to eat and it made us all stand at attention and it came down and inspected us and i wanted to i was hoping that it would this was my way out i was kind of hoping that it would get me and i wasn't afraid as i should have been because i did not fear for my life i in fact wanted to lose my life at that time and so it passed right by me and it didn't do anything. And at the minute, I said, no, none of you are worth it. And then I guess one of us at the end was
Starting point is 00:57:42 thinking that it smelled, that it smelled bad. And he said, you don't like the way I smell. I don't like the way you smell either. And we all immediately, all of us peed our pants. Like it made us do that. It had, it had that kind of control over us. And he said, there, that's better. And he walked and and he went away. And you could see his eye. I could see his eye. And he walked away. And then he released us. We all stood facing the moon. We could see the moon. And we stood facing it in a portal opened and we walked into it and went back to the base on the moon. Yeah. The punchline, I guess, is that when I got back, I thought they'd give me a change of pants, but I had to wear them for the rest of the day. I went back to work on the ship. It was another five or six hours
Starting point is 00:58:23 before we went back to base and everything dried. But like, you know, I didn't get any promotion over it. It went into my record that I volunteered for that mission, but I didn't get another mission for months and months after that. So I think you were sent up all. also the reason why they take four or five is in case you weren't able to handle no fear. They'll eat you. That's right. We were an offering. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:48 We were expendable and we were an offering for that thing. Right. Because as us researchers know, what they are addicted to is fear, which is why all the teachers and all of us are always saying, you know, move through your fear, you're infinite and immortal, you know, blah, blah, but it's, of course, hard to do if you have a 30-foot creature in front of you that has dragon essence to it. It's trying to make you afraid. Yeah, it's trying to make you afraid.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And because you guys, I think it probably was a partial training to see if you're training as no fear, actual work too. The other thing was I could never figure out why it made a scale of a building. And it wasn't until I got interviewed by Jay Weidner at Gaia and in between 10, takes. He said, no, that was to make you have adrenaline. So that's what he wanted, he wanted to eat you. Exactly. And that was to stir up adrenaline. And you guys, that's why you did all that. And I, I dawned on me. I never really put that together. So it makes, it makes sense. It's just. Totally white. It's taught. My thinking is this, is that the memories that I have of Earth that have checked out that I, like in Seattle, when I went there, those memories were freakishly accurate.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It was accurate. So if those memories were accurate, then I have to trust the other memories to of space and of what happened. And so that's why I share them. So hopefully, you know what I mean? Like it'll pan out for some other researcher in the future. I'm just hoping to build evidence on it. But I put it all. And again, it's all in the book.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. And you know what? Just where can people go and find out, you know, your great book that we put up on Amazon. Here it is again. Also, you put together the three categories. of program experiences to help people understand themselves better. Well, and to help me understand them, you know, with what's going on.
Starting point is 01:00:44 So I'll just say this, so there's Tony Rodriguez.com, rodrigues.com, and that has links to my Patreon channel, my book link and courses, and as well, you can contact me there. But I offer memory courses for people that have fragmented memories. It was a technique I learned while I was filling in my memories, you know, and I, like, I remembered these things, you know, seeing a being in Chicago, but I didn't remember, you know, going to the bathroom. So I'm, I, I, I had exercises and I did get more memories back and fill out memories. And so this is so many people contact me with it. I couldn't keep up. And so there's a teachable course that's like 40 bucks I put on there. And I get a lot of great feedback from people that feel
Starting point is 01:01:25 they've been involved. That's on the website. The Patreon channel is on the website where I interview other people. And I have a weekly show on there with different tiers. People do live questions and answers. And there's actually a group, like a group psychic meditation thing that I just recently started because of what we're using what I've learned and with my co-host, Jackie Kenner, who's very gifted psychically. She's a psychic medium professionally. That is there. And then the link to the Amazon, the link on the book. So because the book is new, when you just go to Amazon and type in series colony cavalier, which is the name of the book, it doesn't come up. You have to click books and then put in the name series colony cavalry. And it comes up, it was like two or three. But
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's been bestseller for four weeks, and it's been kind of flirting in and out of that. So it's done really well. There's been a huge demand for the book. And a lot of people, I've gotten some really great reviews, and people contact me almost every day telling me that they love the book. And thank you for writing it kind of thing. So that's there. It's all on Tony Rodriguez.com, but it is findable on Amazon under Series Colony Cavalier. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I think I covered everything. Yeah, and spell Rodriguez, just for people just to be clear. Sure. So it's Tony, T-O-N-Y, R-O-D, R-R-I-I-E-E. I-G-U-E-S as in Sam at the end, not a Z or a Q. It's Tony Rodriguez.com. So it's the Portuguese version variant of it. And that's how that came about.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And you're not like one-on-ones anymore, right? I do. I do consultations, but what it is, I can't keep up with them all. I still have people that I can't get back with. And so I charge now for that. Yeah. And what it does is it kind of weeds out because there have been a few people that were kind of just pulling my leg in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And, you know, I kind of messed with me because it was free. so I put a charge there and it kind of weeded that out. And I put a lot of time into this. This is like every weekend for the last six years. I've been doing interviews or consultations or research or one thing or another every single weekend. And so. You also have a full-time job to survive. And a family that I take care of exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And so I did that and I charge it. And you know what? It gives it value because if it was all free, then people wouldn't have much respect for it. And this is real stuff. This is the real deal. and that's how I pay for the website, you know. And it's really reasonable. Yeah, well, it's kind of as minimum as I could go with a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And it's paying for the website and kind of my time of, you know, giving up Saturdays. So I really am, I really am behind the disclosure movement. I feel that people should come forward. I feel that people should talk about this. Tell people about what I'm talking about. And I think we need to make it a household name to force it. to force disclosure. It needs to be normal. UFology needs to be normalized and so does the secret space program. Yeah. That's just a way of perpetuating. Keep in going to explode and slowly come
Starting point is 01:04:13 down and we're going to raise up and it's just going to start being the new norm. Right. Especially because all these younger generations are getting up to, you know, or where as a society, once there's a disclosure, we are going to radically advance over, almost overnight. So we're going to have radical advances. We're going to be very good, very good things are waiting for us. Thank you so much. You have such a generosity of spirit and heart, and you're incredibly courageous, and I'm glad your life was about love.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And I'm going to cry. Thanks, Mary Lee. Don't cry. Okay. Happy tears, touching tears. So it was a pleasure to get to see you in person and be with you. Thank you so much, love. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And thank you so much, all you interested listeners. And onward and upward, friends. Bye-bye.

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