Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 10 Madilyn + Jimmy

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

Today in episode 10 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we sit down with our good friends Madilyn Bailey & Jimmy Benrud. This was a fun one guys. We've known both Jimmy & Madilyn for over 3 years now, and it was such a pleasure to catch up with them. Madilyn Bailey is a pop singer and songwriter originally from a small Wisconsin town, now residing in Los Angeles. Over the last ten years, Madilyn has worked hard to foster a community of nearly 10 M fans (6.5M on YouTube alone) of her and her powerful voice. We talk about advice they received from a couple in a nursing home, how Madilyn gets to be creative for 8 hours a day, and how Jimmy manages all of the behind the scenes of her business - all while still maintaining a successful relationship. We both learned a lot from them and can't wait to see where they go from here. Tune in for an exciting one, Jimmy & Madilyn.   You'll hear us tease it in the episode, but Madilyn has a song coming out soon, Wisconsin, so stay tuned for more details on that! We can't wait for you guys to hear just how amazing this song is. If you want to follow Madilyn & Jimmy, they can be found on instagram as @madilynbailey and on YouTube as  @Madilyn!  If you haven't yet, please rate and subscribe to the show to hear more! And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format - we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail].  We are supported by the following AMAZING companies! Make sure to check them out using our special code & link below!  ShipStation! https://www.ShipStation.com, then enter offer code EASTFAM.   Rothys! Go to https://www.Rothys.com/COUPLE.  Article! Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more by going to https://www.ARTICLE.com/EASTFAM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I didn't realize that I missed that out of a partner. We're in bed answering emails. Like, that's not healthy. And that was her calling that out. Super thankful for that. And I basically put a camera in his hands. And I was like, there's a lot of tutorials online. You can learn how to use this if you want.

Give me something. See, it is a fan. All I have to do is read. All I have to do is read. what's up everybody welcome back to a couple things with Sean and Andrew a podcast all about couples and the things they go through we are so excited for today's episode we're sitting down with our friends Madeline Bailey and Jimmy bin rude who we've known for about four years about four years they are the coolest people the coolest couple they are married and far more

talented than I mean everyone so you may be familiar with Madeline from YouTube she has over seven million subscribers and some of her songs have over 250 million views. She is a singer with a voice of an angel. She has sold out shows all around the world and is an extremely talented artists. Jimmy has been an integral part of her success. In today's episode, we talk about what their teamwork looks like and it parallels ours a lot. Without further ado, our interview with Madeline and Jimmy. Please, if you guys haven't checked both of them out, follow Madeline. Get ready for some amazing music. She even wrote a song while she was at our house.

But a lot of her original songs are getting ready to drop. Yeah. So if you want to learn more about them, you can find them in the show notes down below. And let's jump into this one with Maddie and Jimmy. Madeline Jimmy, thank you for joining us today. I just have to start by saying every time we spend time with you guys, it's like so much fun. So thank you for coming and hanging out with us. It makes us really miss L.A.

We miss you. We miss all of my friends in L.A. We've known each other for, what, three years now, four years maybe? Yeah, something like that. It all started in an escape game, correct? It did. Yes. And I think we lost.

Hollywood horror. Did we get out? You know what, with that team, we had to have. We definitely did. It was the zombie one, right? The one with the, not the zombie one, but the one with an actress in it. Oh, I hated that one so much. Yeah.

Terrifying. Yes. You did not know she was there until she jumped out at you. She was hiding. How did that one end? I can't picture how that one ends. It was not the circus. It was daycare.

It was daycare. Yeah. Did you guys do the ones where it ends in like the trays? That was in D.C. I don't know. That was in D.C. Oh. You're getting your escape games mixed up.

Yeah. I want to tell you guys a story. Okay. A young girl with a budding career from a Midwest town grows up meets a strapping, handsome young lad. and they support that girl's career. Who does that story apply to? Them.

Both of us, I think, except for the strapping part. The strapping part. Strappingly handsome. Why? Okay. Again, okay, we've been talking about this for the past now 48 hours. Both of our husbands do this like self-deprecating thing. They're like, oh, I'm not talented.

Oh, I'm not handsome. I'm done terrible. Stop it. You guys are amazing. We're just brutally honest. No, you're brutally dishonest. We're both very,

very aware that what we're doing is not possible without you. Yes. So the fact that you guys don't fully, we fully appreciate it's what I'm trying to say. I don't know that you guys fully appreciate it, but we fully appreciate it. I think we connect with you guys so well

because we do share. It's like a pretty similar situation. Yeah. You started your career, singing when you were howled um well i posted my first video on youtube in 2009 i was singing before then and playing at local coffee shops and writing songs maybe five years before that even so if you guys haven't heard her by the way probably the best singer in the world she just like sings around the house i'm like can you just do this forever thank you it's not

true i'm not the best vocalist ever but i secretly still want to like bring drew up here just have you singed her just to see what's going to happen later that's my yeah it was something yeah I cannot wait I don't want to mess with TikTok I want you to mess with TikTok I want you to put it on TikTok listen I need you to help me come on she Maddie just wrote a song in about I'm almost two a million followers on TikTok so I'm like holy crap so I'm like you know what I mean I'm like let's do it I like I like 200,000 TikTok is so funny because I think I never take it fully seriously but it's just like It's a lot of fun.

I don't know. I feel like I'm way too old down there, but it's really fun. I feel like it's a fast track to adult ADHD. Am I right? And then two hours later, you're still doing that. Yeah.

Very true. That's nuts. Okay. First, how did you guys meet? Since it's the show of couples, we have to know. So in my town of Wisconsin, Jimmy's sister-in-law, Siri,

She took my pictures from my music, and she'd been doing that for a couple years. And she'd been kind of trying to set me up with Jimmy for like two years. And there was just one point over Christmas break where I was single at the same time that he was single, and she set us up on a blind date together. We, our first day was at Applebee's. Half off app. Shout out Applebee's. That was actually a classy place in our town.

If it shows you anything about, like, where we're from. We're from the Midwest, too. Applebee's was the place. go yeah and no this is not an ad guys we had Applebee's was just the place to go madeline said there's more cows than humans in their town though in my hometown yeah cool because there's only a thousand people in Boiseville there's far more than a thousand cows in Boisville wow how often do you go back to Boisville a couple times a year maybe three three feels like a good number yeah yeah we're yeah um so you went on this first date yes we kind of got the low down a little

a little bit last night. You don't have to share all the dirt, but I would like to see how the relationship grew and progressed from there. Yeah, so our first date was actually like a trifecta date. So we went to Applebee's. It was great. Lava cake. And then we went to, to a movie. Got to highlight the lava cake. Then we went to a movie. We went to The Hobbit. And then we went back to Longest movie in history. So long. But we kind of chatted throughout it. So it wasn't like this, awkward thing and just sitting next to each other yeah but we weren't at that obnoxious couple talking about to say you guys talking movies what the heck just like little i love talking through movies i love it i'll even pause a movie at a spot if i'm like oh my gosh that was so profound

or i love this pause it like talking you do that all the time i yeah i don't like it though i don't like i love it so we're like analyzing it i guess and then um then we went back to my house on the very first day. Yeah, so I met his parents on our, on the first day. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. My dad was holding. Did you know already that you're going to marry this girl?

So I? Pretty much. I mean, it was like, it didn't need to go. I mean, three, three dates and one is kind of crazy, isn't it? Mm-hmm. But yeah, so we went back to my place and my parents' place and my dad was in standing in the kitchen holding a piece of Swiss cheese looking at us through the hole in it. Okay.

So just to give you an idea of what kind of character he is. Oh, okay. Yeah. So that was a nice welcome to the fam. Yep. Then we watched Duck Dynasty and played foosball. Yeah, we have such a... Which I kicked your butt at.

It was a fun... He's glazing over this. Wait, how many years ago is this? We don't need to talk about that. I'm so good at foosball. Seriously? Yeah. I have no coordination when it comes to football.

I can't figure out how to like... There's a lot happening. First of all, based on your form, when I just saw your... Yeah. That is so bad. Right. I was pretty bad. I'm not even kidding.

The ball will be in the goal before I even get my hand on the right nozzle thing to like maybe, no. I'm like five minutes delayed on that game. What year did you guys start dating? Oh, 2012.

Very end of 2012. You guys have a very vivid memory for that many years ago. I don't remember our first thing. I just, no, it was my sophomore year of college like halfway through. winter break we did we did shortly after that we made a video telling our dating story and we like re-enacted it for the video went back to applebees got some lava cake oh my but actually

before the video we like took them to you like what our first date looks like go back to applebee's every year now for your anniversary no we definitely should for your 10 year anniversary is what you should yeah yeah or like maybe we'd go to like Bali for our 10 year I don't think Applebee is in Yeah, true. So how long after you dated did you propose? I had just over a year. It was actually on Valentine's Day because, yeah. He's a, he needs events to make events.

He's not somebody who can just be like, I'm going to propose when I want to on a Tuesday. Now he needs like it to be Valentine's Day. That's when I'm proposing. That's the kind of guy is. Yeah. I do nice things on her birthday. You know what I mean?

I do nice things all their days. Let's come on. Holidays birthdays. I'm going to give her a card. No, I got to wait a year. I need to wait a year. I need to wait for the next day. It's funny. You are kind of a structured guy.

I interviewed Jimmy on my podcast redirected. That was like a year and a half ago. That was a while ago. And we talked about how you were in pre-med. Yeah. Which just shows. I totally forgot about this. This guy's a genius right in front of us.

Not a genius. Okay. No, he has no talent whatsoever, as he was safe. Yeah. but yeah it's actually comical hold the phone we have an NBA from Vanderbilt we have a pre-med guy and they both are like we're not smart here's the thing our whole life is just supporting you too in your careers I feel like but it's not saying that's it well by the conversations are all but hasn't it become a part of what you're doing though I'm not saying

it's not great and we're not good at what we do but it's it is all about you guys and it's fantastic you know what I'm saying yeah I would argue and you guys might be different because it is music and you're like you're creating music but for us my it's weird to say this out loud but like my face has become a brand and you utilize that brand like not in a weird way but it's like a business that you manage so that's where it gets difficult and that's where like we can relate with you guys so well like not only our background but like what we're doing now it's like the separation of of work your work life and like your family life and like where does that cross especially especially for you guys well and because your family life is and to like paint the

picture for everyone for about the guys the husbands you guys are incredible businessmen so if If you just have some random person that you're managing, you're managing a talent, it's your job to like creatively paint out the trajectory of their business. And you have to think of them almost as like, I don't wanna say a prop, but a prop. Now add into that the confusion and like the dynamic of it's your wife.

That makes it sound really nasty. No, I know it sounds nasty, but it's not because we've all figured out how to do it in a way that we both love and respects. Like, I respect you, respect me, and vice versa. It's just, that's how complicated it is. Because you as husbands have to manage a business. We have to be talent and, like, creative. And figuring out a way for both those to mesh with husband and wife.

Now mom and dad is insane. Have you guys, have you guys proactively had conversations? Like, did you guys think through like, okay, this is, going to be the effect of us working together and like this is how we can structure it to like make it healthy still or did it just for us it just kind of like happened I didn't have a job so I started making YouTube videos and then we've tried to like catch up and create safeguards around that but yeah I think like I would have been okay with Jimmy having gone on to school and done what he wanted to do but I did always have this like little hope that he would rather work with me and so when

he had an opportunity to have a year off between going to med school and when he graduated. And so he came to live with me in, and in L.A., we were married at that time, but he came to live in L.A. with me, and I basically put a camera in his hands, and I was like, there's a lot of tutorials online. You could learn how to use this if you want. And he did. And he learned how to film, and he learned how to edit, and he learned how to color. He learned, like, he taught himself everything.

And it made my life so much easier because up until then I was doing all the filming and editing and coloring. And so it just, like, took that, that off my plate. and I don't even think about that anymore, which is so cool. But he taught himself that. He hadn't ever touched a camera, at least with me. Like, I knew YouTube was what I wanted to do, and I'd been doing it for years and figuring it out.

But we live in this, like, really cool era of, like, if there's anything you want to learn how to do, you can. And that's, like, my all-time favorite piece of, like, YouTube and where we're at. Like, I learned how to put on makeup because of YouTube tutorials. He learned how to film a video because of YouTube tutorials. And now if I want to learn how to play harp, I can learn that on YouTube.

Barbara I love Maddie She's like so meek and chill most of the time But then we get a little glimpse I love it She's strong He's very fiery She's very fiery

And it's inspiring Oh this morning we were working out And at the end she was getting all hyped up About Jimmy not being confident enough And she was like You're just gonna believe that you could do it And you could do it And I was like oh my gosh I bumped up

I'm just like But I didn't think this was a real thing But when you actually say It's more than a positive affirmation, but it's like when I tell myself, I am somebody who writes hit songs. I haven't written a hit song yet, right? Technically. When I tell myself, I'm somebody who writes hit songs, I suddenly start behaving like somebody who writes hit songs. And what does that behavior look like? I'm writing every single day.

I'm challenging myself. I'm listening to new music. I'm reading books. I'm doing all the things that I know are going to make me a hit songwriter. You have to tell yourself you're that before you're there. Because if you don't even believe it, how are you ever going to get there? I mean, it goes even further than that. If you don't believe it, then you don't believe you should be in a room with certain people.

And you don't believe you deserve to go to certain events or get certain opportunities. I mean, it can ruin your career. I don't want to. That's the, we should just, we should just cut that out and make that a podcast, you know, that's all. You guys are like, Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra.

More on the limelight, though, you've had more of that, like, momentum of success. You know what I'm saying? For, like, Jimmy and I, it's just like, we're, we almost have to be more humble, I feel like. Or it's, it is humbling experience. Does that make sense? I'm not saying I'm, like, super humble, but it's like, it's my, it's my job. to like put myself second behind you nobody cares about freaking we were just in new york and it was like hey we're here to interview sean and i'm like yeah that's fine that's how it should be

but there's still part of me that's like got to check my confidence you know does that make sense so i got i got to decrease my confidence i understand where that thought comes from but i think that that that in the same way that maybe you see i don't see how you see yourself as like second to it because I don't see like with Jimmy it's like sure I'm the one being interviewed but like he's the one I talk through all these questions with beforehand and that helps me figure out the answers and how to communicate well like I don't I'm not the greatest at communicating in conversation which might seem strange to you because we have great conversations but like I well I guess what I'm saying is like I feel like what like the best things I'll ever say are in my songs and so like if I want

someone to know something about me I just want to sing them a song like I feel like that speaks about me best and like the things I want to say but this guy can have conversations with anybody at any time and he's so invested and people just love him and I just that's such a cool ability I don't have that ability yeah I would also say to speaking about like the limelight versus your guys is I don't think it I don't think you have to take any confidence away because my career would not exist without you right now not at all and people would argue like oh olympics whatever no that relevancy has sailed every four years that relevance like moves on to the next girl so like the Olympics are gone and i've maintained a career within my brand of my face pretty much because of what

you've created so yes people like when we're in New York I walk into her and they're like oh we want to interview Sean that's your doing and you're awesome you too bro it I mean it reveals selfishness that I have that thought that like I should be interviewed too I think that's completely normal though am I I don't want to speak for you I don't want to speak for you so am I am I verbalizing anything that you relate to no not yes yes you are no you're not speaking for me not you're not speaking for me. No, but at the same time, obviously, like, we're incredibly, incredibly proud of everything. No doubt.

Yeah, like, but I do, yeah, I mean, we all have those thoughts and whatever, you know, goes on. I mean, the thing is, I don't even know that I should be interviewed. When something wants to interview me, I don't even know that, like, I think I should do that. Like, I don't know why anybody wants to talk to me most of the time. I have no idea. I will say, though, like, recently we've... Same. I'm like, I'm just a person.

And I happen to sing and I happen to write songs. But I am just. If you think about the big picture, though, all of these characters that you see being interviewed, so actresses, singers, dancers, athletes, whatever, famous people, you're interviewing them, but it's a team who made them. Yes, they have a talent, absolutely. But that talent would be nothing without the team.

It's just we live in a culture where the team isn't the one who does the interview. but if you actually watch that interview and you know how it works you know they're not saying anything that hasn't been put through a media circuit or a press circuit you know they're not wearing clothes that weren't okayed by a stylist and you know their business team is watching from a different state and I mean it's it's a village and it's almost yeah it's just it's different and also the ability to the ability to stay organized too like I don't I just don't have that. Like if I didn't have people like helping me with emails and and scheduling

things in my calendar and reminding me that when you'd go to different times on everything and your calendar shifts like what I even do? I would lose my mind. Yeah. You're about to drop a oh well I was just saying like to go back to like the original original question like how do we balance work and life I think originally it did start like just naturally and then we obviously ran into some walls where like hey we're answering email. emails at 930 we're in bed answering emails like that's not healthy and that was her calling that out super thankful for that because I'm like a workaholic we both are really but like to have that kind of recognition and like just self just understanding of like the situation and there's greater things

happening than just answering an email that could be easily answered tomorrow yeah yeah I have them like I often tell them I'm like will the world end if we don't answer this tonight And he's like, no. And I'm like, okay. That's your answer. Wait, I want you to share what your structure is that you have throughout the day. You mean the alarms that I've set to my phone? One might go off.

They're more for me, I feel like than they are for them. Well, I'm just like, I get like, I'll start writing a song and then that's just what I'll be doing for the next eight hours. If I don't, if an alarm doesn't go off and to remind me to eat food and, like, work out. And so I literally have from 6 a.m. And I wake up till 7 p.m. I have alarms that tell me to water my phone. plants and check emails and I have like yeah yeah we have our at 730 the alarm goes off that's the last

alarm it goes off and it says this is your last this is it's called I call it check in but it's like the last opportunity if you have an email that we have to answer tonight that's the this is the time I really want to start doing that super helpful and that she uses a little emoji too it's the like envelope with the heart on it oh cute so it's yeah super adorbs adorbs it's cool I I am super thankful I like every couple is a team obviously and there's like so many tasks that need to be divided whether it's house chores or like things with the kids if you have kids for us it does complicate things because there's a bigger task list because of work is involved but i feel like it's forced us to really appreciate one person's strengths and the others and like depend on the other person

which is good in all areas like are us working together i think has made us better for house chores and better with drew and absolutely because i don't know about you guys but when we started working together it was the same way you start working together and it's perfect then you get a little deeper and all hell breaks loose pretty much because you figure out you have different styles you're better at certain things i knew for me i had never like worked with you before or of a significant other so I was full control I controlled everything and trying to figure out how to let go of the reins and to have someone else take a directive and a creative role and kind of take that career and pass somewhere else that I had never envisioned was terrifying so we would get in arguments

and then trying to figure out at the end of the day how do you turn off work partners and become husband and wife again and put all that behind you and then all of a sudden just be like oh babe I just want to cuddle is so difficult yeah and that's real we ended up implementing our structure was we used to work on our main level of our house so down in the living room Lexi knows this and it was just utter chaos but when work was done all of that stuff would still be sitting around and we could never get past it and so I ended up moving everything up to our upstairs and I'm like when work is done you go downstairs and you can't go back upstairs because it's and you guys have done this awesome like really well where first of all the honesty and and Madeline saying hey I need a cutoff point

is huge like I feel like some people harbor that and they just like let it faster and it ends up bad but then having a third party who almost hold you accountable whether that's like removing this the physical stuff that's directly in front of me so I can't like look at my computer and want to go edit a video or have an alarm that signals it's done you know I think that's really good just to have that. Are there any structures that aren't in place yet or you haven't put in place that you want? Actually, yes. Here we go. She just showed me this book and we're both reading it simultaneously, but essentially it's, what's it called? Getting things done. Getting things done. It's a classic. There's a couple things and we're working on the first thing. It's called the

two minute rule. So if anything takes two minutes or less, just do it. the second you think about it just do it so if you need to like load the dishwasher it's going to take you less than two minutes just do it now it's not on your brain anymore if you need to take out the trash if it's answering a really quick email but obviously you have your cutoffs and then the other one is like an in-tray out-tray of ideas and things that will take long but not just that idea or action that not just idea but the action you have to take immediately next to get to achieve your goal essentially okay yeah because i think like like a big and we still obviously we're still working on this but like a the thing we would fight about the most is sorry jimmy

jimmy bringing up things at wrong at inappropriate times just times where i'm not right just don't want to talk about it but but it's because we're the same bra it'll like it'll pop into his head while we're eating dinner and he'll be like oh my gosh i just remembered there's this huge email thing that you need to reply to and i'm like oh my gosh why why It comes from a place of passion. I know, but I'm like, I'm literally a food in my mouth. I'm not going to, like, I can't help you right now. This isn't, I'm not going to, I'm not in a place.

So I think like what this helps us with is when like writing down literally everything that you need yourself to do. Like it frees my brain from having to think about it. And then when like in your calendar, when the alarm goes off and you're like, it's time to answer emails. Then all of those lists of emails that you've just said, I need to reply to these. people that you can just pull that up and you can just check all those off at the same time i like that yeah it i don't know it's really hard to make that a habit though i feel like it is but i've become so much less stressed that like i will do anything to maintain that well you have to and people might be confused why we become so oCD about structures but when your house becomes

your work if you don't have those structures in place you can't keep a relationship because you work and live in the same place yeah so there's no way to turn it off unless you force it to be turned off and yeah we're still working on it it's funny I so we've known each other for years and I'm I love that because we've each grown and learn new things along the way when we first met you were big into the streaming which video game like again what we do is so weird because singing you're thinking about it all the time because you love it and like it's your job but then video like people play video games at home casually but for you guys for like a year and a half two years it was freaking work and you guys are streaming for eight hours a day sometimes yeah a couple

times a week and we'd bring our gear everywhere. I remember when he brought it to Big Bear. Oh my gosh. It's set up in the garage. You wouldn't even go to the bathroom. It was like, it was nuts, but I don't know why I brought that up. It was just like the work ethic is insane. It's also cool.

You mentioned you feel less stressed. As we have grown and done this longer, you realize, like, ways to de-stress and help each other de-stress. So it's just cool. Like, I feel like you guys are, I'm glad you didn't bring the video game set up, you know? Me too. Yeah. Yeah. So we're doing that less. Okay. Are you ready for the big question that we hinted towards earlier? Yeah. You're ready for this? I think so. Okay. Who wants to go first? Maddie? Okay, sure. Okay. What do you most love about Jimmy? Oh. Um, Um, is it like a sigh relief to me? Yeah, because I have a word into like, do you want me to go?

No, no, I know. I'm just, I'm forming it. Um, she's going to say something like I like he, like I'm can be very serious and very intense. And I, and I, I, I tend to forget to enjoy life. And Jimmy reminds me to enjoy life. Like I just look at his face and he's just, he's, you know, he's, he's, he can be serious. But you, you're mostly pretty, you're mostly lighthearted. You try to keep things light.

But like, I just look at his face and I'm like, yeah, I think we just need to like enjoy each other's company and enjoy where we're at. And yeah, there's something about you that brings like a lightness to my intense nature. Wow. That's really sweet. Okay, Jamie. And I would say integrity. Integrity is the word. Yeah, it has to do with every single way that you live your life and every.

everything I think I don't think there's a stronger thing than that like our relationship your work your family life everything just hold you just you expect the most but you give the most so oh see see why we wanted to wait to tell you the question I'm sure something about I want to start this I want to start saying something about you no no every time no no do it Your perspective, I feel like, is so awesome. And it's so much different than mine, but it's so much wiser, and it blows me way every time. Like, wow. You're freaking wise, wise woman.

Thank you. Now give me something that you. See, it is a fan. You are the most amazing father I've ever seen. Really? And it's the most attractive thing in the world. It was funny. Maddie and Jimmy

So Madeline and Jimmy came to town For the baby shower Four months later They come back and meet Drew for the first time And they're holding the baby Each independently And Madeline was like Oh my gosh Jimmy you holding the baby

It's super attractive It is Well I've just never seen him hold a baby I don't like Because I think maybe your nieces and nephews You hold them when they're babies But I've never seen you hold a baby And I was like

And seeing a guy like make faces out of baby and like trying to make them laugh. Like, yeah. Drew's a good baby. She's the best baby. We think she's pretty cool. Okay, here's another one. We didn't prep you for this one either.

Okay, cool. Okay. Jimmy, you have to go first this time. Oh, man. What's your biggest pet peeve with each other? Where to begin? And there's no cop out. There's no like, oh, they're perfect.

No, they're not. Everyone's got pet peeves. Yeah, I mean, I'm a really organized person. Not so much. And it's tough for me to live in, like, a disorganized place. So if there's dishes and there's garbage and there's, okay, you're using a plate, but you don't put it in the dishwasher after you use it. Anywhere and everywhere.

Yeah. Like, literally you showed me your notes and they're written on a piece of paper towel. Literally on me. But I, okay. We were playing code names last night where you have to, like, lay out five by five cards. I mean, I do do that. And I laid them out and then Jimmy reorganized them to make them

They were such a mess. I know. Andrew's way of like playing with anything is like throw it. You do this thing. You do this thing. Hey, this is no,

you ask the question. Nope. I have to go this one out there. He does this thing. And I keep calling him out on it and he laughs because he doesn't even notice where he'll grab a paper towel. Use it.

Wad it up and just throw it in any random direction. It's for playing it. for sustainability. I don't want to throw away. Because I want to use it again. Exactly. No. Right.

Nice. Okay. I will, I will watch. I will use that one paper towel all day and then maybe the next day. But she can throw mine away. On the counter. Close to the trash can.

Yes. Or there's a third option. She'll aim for the trash can clearly misses it. And leaves it. Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't get it.

I don't love. I've learned. to not take the other stuff personal because she's not she doesn't mean to leave the kitchen cabinet door open or like oh my gosh you guys are the same person that is pretty freaky so far all the pet peeves have applied to me so far she's she's also becoming more organized I don't want to take her creativity away but the two minute rule has been helping me a lot like an extreme amount it really has it takes me two minutes to pick it up I'll pick it up if it's more than two minutes I'll leave it for jimmy to do later but when you walk around the house

and you're just picking up paper towels everywhere. I'm like, you didn't reuse them, obviously. We're talking like two. We're talking like two paper towels, Max. Okay. I was reading a book called the 30 lessons. She has to do hers.

Sorry, please go ahead. No, no, go through three lessons. I'm thinking, I have my, you know. 30 lessons for living. Sorry, 30 lessons for love. This guy also wrote a book called 30 lessons for living. He interviews like a thousand people who are 65 or older, married couples.

and like gets their tips and tricks on how to make it work and one of the things was if it doesn't matter when you're 80 years old people have different styles so don't fight over everything you know what's such an not that that's like a serious argument but realize like what's really important and what's not you know what I'm saying so so Jimmy that means we're going to keep that paper towels till we're 80 my back's going to hurt okay okay. Okay, there's a little lot. Whoa. But I'll just pick a few, maybe you just want.

I'll put one. The most recent, the most, like the newest pet peeve that's been driving me insane is his, his inability to sit and have a conversation for longer than five to 20 minutes. That like 20, if I can get him for 20 minutes, that's a good day, it's a good conversation. But he can't help, like he's, he will literally flutter

around the kitchen, organizing things, like you said, like the board, he'll be putting things while we're talking. And I can't handle it. I'm like, you need to look at me when I'm talking to you. Like I, he's like, well, but I'm listening. And I'm like, your body language says 90% of what you need to say.

But so if you're not looking at me, I don't believe you're listening to me. And so this drives me absolutely insane. He'll be like putting things away, putting dishes away, washing the counter, just anything, every playing with the dogs, anything. And I'm just like, oh my gosh, 20 minutes. Stay focused.

I don't know if Jimmy's. like this, but Sean, when she's upset at me, no eye contact, same thing. She won't pay attention to me. And she'll clean. She like gets in this organization. Maybe it's just me stressing you out and you're like, oh, anxiety. Yeah. Part of it is honestly realizing how much stuff there is to do. That's a terrible excuse. But here's what's cool about you too. So you're both so intriguing to me because you have so many different levels of interest. You're, like super into nutrition and physiology i feel like she gave us like a 15 minute discourse on i don't even know what the frigate was about last night it was amazing it was great but she was so passionate

about it you we're talking about addiction yeah yeah oh that's fascinating sorry for forgetting but you were vegan do you talk openly about that sure yeah no i no i mean i haven't had opportunities too but yeah i mean i i talk about a little social media for like four years five years yeah here's what's cool though you guys both grew up in Wisconsin moved to LA way different vibe way different vibe you probably don't know anyone from your upbringing that does something similar to what you do nor you no but you've conquered all these things of the team including these different interests whether that's you were I'm sure you guys had these conversations but it's like okay we're gonna do we're gonna be vegan and

then we're gonna do whatever I feel like you guys actually try it out different things and see what works but I love how much support there is and this is way different than anything we are familiar with from our upbringing but we're doing it together and that's what matters so it's pretty fun honestly yeah it's fun I mean I think that's something cool about the two of us is like when we try something we don't just like it isn't all those half-hearted things yeah it's like we really do it so we can try to understand it and see if it works and you know and I still apply a lot of what I've taken away from being vegan to like what I'm doing now. But I think like the whole the whole start with like experimenting with with being

vegan was not necessarily the moral side of it which comes which came later into the journey but like more that I just have terrible digestion. And so I've just been like on a mission to figure out how I can live my life the best I can. I because it's in you know like when you eat something that like for example lactose, It just ruins, it just ruins your day the next day. It just does. Why'd you have to share that with her? Andrew is lactose intolerant, everyone.

He still believes he's not, but it's like, a milkshake will tell me differently. Oh, yeah, but yeah. A piece of cheese will tell you differently. You better have a bathroom around. Yeah. It's just like the part about being like like a vocalist is like if I'm not healthy, I can't sing. It's not like a, it's not like any other sort of illness or injury that you can kind of like push through or like you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. work out until you feel the pain or whatever.

It's like if your voice is hurt, you literally can't use it. It's not like I can sing quieter at a show. It's like if it's, I have, my throat is injured, I can't do anything. And so a lot of that comes with like, so that's why I feel so convicted about my health because I want to be in the healthiest place.

My vocal cords are there mentally so I can write songs. I'm just trying to like. Love that. No, I think that's really cool. I think we should all be more like that. you're both voracious learners which is awesome too um do you guys know love languages oh yeah oh yeah what's your love language my love languages which i was surprised by

because i thought it was physical touch and quality time it's not physical touch it is actually acts of service really i love it i love it and this is for this comes from growing up because my dad is an acts of service guy so i would do things like when i use a car to fill it up with gas. When I would be in town, I'd pick up some groceries just to make sure we had food. I loved that kind of stuff. If I could, I'd leave a $100 bill in the drawer whenever I could. Like those kind of acts of service. So I learned that growing up and I didn't realize that I missed that out of a, out of a partner until I realized, oh, I love it when Jimmy surprises me with like getting my like favorite kind of chocolate and didn't tell me or like he'll, I don't

know. I just love it. So much. So yeah, acts of service. I didn't think I was that person, but I am in quality time. John never fills up her own car either with gas. So there's that. What's your laundry? What is, do you know my, you know me better than I do?

Yeah, you use this physical touch, touch and, um, like affection. No, no, no,

it's the, words, words of affirmation. Physical touch, words of affirmation. I don't know why. I feel like a lot of guys are words of affirmation.

Mm-hmm. Because our egos are very fragile. That's the fishing. Seriously. And I just did it again. Yeah. I just said, I didn't even, yeah, Jim, you're doing great. Thanks.

Now, we've talked about that with other couples before. It seems like a lot of the guys say words of affirmation. A lot of the girls say physical touch or quality time. But I think you said something earlier. Most girls talk about body language. And I feel like we can have a full conversation with just your body language. Because you might be saying something to me. But if your body language is saying something completely different, I can't even listen.

Yeah. I'm too like you say you're not grumpy but your body language is grumpy so you're grumpy it's like no I'm fine like you're grumpy and then I probably make you grumpy I don't know what just happened I don't know I had to go on a tangent sorry it's true though yeah I want you to share your goals that you have my goals yeah oh um there's a lot of them um I mean right now in my life it's very career focused because I you know I don't have a family yet I do want a family yeah I mean, like, children. We don't have any children.

You have fur children. I feel like you're talking, shifts once you have children and your children become like obviously the priority. And that's what I want. But right now it's very career. I want to, like I said, I want to write hit songs. I want to sell at stadiums.

I want to win Grammys. Yeah. I want the, I want the, and you know what? If I shoot for it and I don't get those, it's also okay. You're going to do it. But I, but I want to shoot. for it and I want to go for it. I feel like right time right now is the time of my life where like you know I've spent 10 years building an audience on on YouTube and just learning a lot about

you know when you cover 250 songs I could be resentful about it but when you cover 250 songs of the of the biggest hits in the last 10 years you learn a lot about what a hit song is and why a hit song is that and then I spent five years in L.A. like hundreds of sessions every year just in and out of studio is learning how to write a song and so I'm glad I put myself through all but I feel like I'm at like the perfect place where we don't have any sort of like real attachments in the sense of like having to be in one place with children so I can tour I can go to China I can do the things that I want to do right now and so I just I don't know this this year I kind of like woke up and I'm like I just want to I want to live the next three to five years my life so

unapologetically and just do everything I've ever wanted to do and I want to set myself up in that way so that in five years if it doesn't happen can't imagine it won't if it doesn't happen it's surely not because i didn't try yeah so fun fact madeline is a superstar in china and france like number one on the charts frequently right i have been it's like it's like it's like searching for sugar man have you seen that documentary yeah yeah but you're way cooler what are your goals oh man uh yeah mine coincide with hers a lot obviously um get that Grammy um and Along with that, I'd like to establish myself in the music world, whether it's management, tour managing.

Hey, so a couple of things might be going on a tour. You want to want the job? Yeah, let's do it. I think we'll do like 20 stops. Let's do it. Tell us where you want us to go, audience. Andrew D, you just interrupted him. I'm freaking hiring him for a tour manager.

So, was this my interview? You passed. Good. Continue, sorry. No, that's basically it. And on the side, it's like a totally different thing. I'm learning more about real estate. And I really want to get involved more than we are in real estate.

That's awesome. What do you consider your role in the business? Oh, man. Okay. Day-to-day manager, tour manager. I'd say production. I'd say social media help with. When I say production, I say,

like recording and editing and scheduling and that kind of stuff um i'm stressed out just try to like keep everybody on the same page again you're the whole team that's what i'm saying like he just starts listing his job and then you're like why do they have any why do they wonder if they're like yeah like how is that second how is that somehow like not equally if not more important Uh-huh, exactly. Because of no one, if you didn't sing, then I would have to, and nobody wants to hear that. You know what I mean? You didn't do it.

She couldn't do it. She couldn't do it. She does. Okay. Like, you guys give each other jobs. Yeah, you allow me to have the time to write for eight hours a day. Like, who has the, who can say that they can write for eight hours a day and then you go back to work the next day and your entire business hasn't stopped. like yeah that's crazy yeah if uh if you were going to tell listeners to go look up one of your

songs what would it be i have mine red ribbon okay i'd say like a red ribbon i also say be on the look for a song called wisconsin it's amazing it's not out yet but it's going to be out soon it's epic it's amazing it's great i think i think red ribbon when i released it last year it changed a lot of of my focus on my music and i just didn't want to sing songs or put out music that didn't matter that didn't have some big like larger conversation that was happening around it with red ribbon it was about loss and grief i think it's the thing people just don't talk about because it's not pretty and not fun um and but i saw how important it was to have that conversation and also for me to be vulnerable enough to say hey look i'm struggling with my grief that i'm going through and that it's okay

if you're struggling too and it was it just became an open place for people to share it and i think especially with pain anything emotional in life really it's like if you're willing to to speak about it, you can begin healing. But you can if you're not going to talk about it. And so I think with these songs, I want to start conversations around whatever topic it is I want to talk about. Do you think me singing a rendition

of Tetris would help or maybe discourage people from looking or not to do it. Well, are you going to post on TikTok? Playing Tetris, bodies on the mattress. How we fit together. It was soft. my falsetto. Okay, what was the big question you had in prep for? The best advice, relationship or marriage advice that you've either given or you frequently give, sorry, that you've either

received or you give. Something that came to me was, and she knows exactly what I'm going to say, because I shared it with her as soon as I heard it, I was working at a nursing home, trying to get more patient care hours in Wisconsin, and this older couple who is still living together in the nursing home, which was beautiful, said, just be careful about what you say in heated situations because it inevitably will happen, but how you handle that situation,

good or bad, will carry over to the next day, even after it's resolved. Wow. That's awesome. That's real. It's hard because in heated situations, people, you say anything. yeah yeah um mine just comes from my grandpa he um is an amazing person by the way he was like a

he's a church planting pastor who just literally in his little scooby-doo van would drive around america just planting churches in different places and this is my biggest role model for life is him um but his piece of advice for me once we got married he's like madeline it works until it doesn't. And he said, what I mean by that is you'll find a system, you'll put it in place, and it'll work until it stops. And then you'll have to find the next system, but you have to keep searching for the systems.

But you can't expect something that worked a few years ago to continue to work now. I don't really like that. It's good. It's really good. It's been really helpful for us because, like, you know, the last five years of us being married, even like when I think about my YouTube channel,

it's just like things work until they don't, and then you figure out the next thing. Yeah. I like that there's hope for bigger. out the next thing. Yeah, absolutely. To your point, I, I've been thinking about how it's a kind of a paradox in marriage where it's a person you're most vulnerable with that allows you to be somewhat

disrespectful to them sometimes, you know what I'm saying? And then also the vulnerability opens you up to like more damage. Take, being able to hurt someone more than anyone else, like in your relationship. You know what I'm saying? So not losing that degree of respect to your point is crucial in arguments because there's so many that there's so many decisions to figure out as a married couple. But that's something that I was challenged with. Thank you for sharing that. Well, and then when we were dating, it was like our first, second year dating.

Andrew had me read this book called Meaning of Marriage. And, yeah, intimidating, right? And then he didn't propose for like two years later. And I was like, this is really mixed signals. but it's really similar to what you said in the book it says that you can't expect the person you marry to be the same person your entire marriage that's how marriage is you get to this point where you're like you've changed so much you're not who I marry and I miss that person and that's not being fair to your significant other because we all evolve

and we all change and we go through life experiences that make us different and you have to figure out a different system for it but we really respect you guys thank you for taking the time to join us I feel like there's such a weird thing that we do I feel like it's a relatively new thing to like the history of the not working together as a couple but like the social media game

where it never stops and having friends like you who are open to sharing and discussing that with us is crucial to Sean and I so thank you for thank you for being those friends likewise we love and respect to you guys and thanks for having us okay here's your chance

Pimp yourselves out. What's coming out? Where can people find you? I have an album coming out. Yes Jimmy B. No, don't go for it. Don't you can follow me on TikTok Malin Bailey right now I might switch over to Madeline. I'm not really sure yet, but I follow me on TikTok so you can fulfill my dream of becoming TikTok famous. Um, let me throw it. No, but for real, uh, you can follow me on YouTube, uh, Instagram, Facebook. Probably, all the social medias, to be honest. If you're in China listening to this, you can follow me on all the Chinese social medias,

which are not the same as the US. Wow. And then what do you need to look forward to? Look forward to a lot of original music coming very soon, very excited about it. Wisconsin being the first one. I have to say, it's really exciting seeing all of us come out, all of your original music,

because what was that? How many years ago? We knew you guys in Tetris was one of the first ones. Playing Tetris. But it's really cool to see what you've been doing, where you're going. Thank you. I'm excited. Jimbo?

I have an Instagram. I post there probably by yearly. It's called Jimbo Slice of Life. You can check it out. Yeah. Madeline just hit 7 million subscribers on YouTube and got your first gold record. That's freaking epic. It's insane.

It's amazing. check her out if you want to hear the voice of an angel look her up anyway thank you guys for your time thank you wise and safe only fools rushing but i can't help falling in love with you Thank you.