Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 122 | will + charo compton
Episode Date: July 13, 2022Today, we talk with our friends Will and Charo Compton about their dating, engagement, and wedding experience! We also touch on pregnancy and the sacrifices families make with their careers and relati...onships before having children. We touch on Will Compton's NFL journey and podcast Bussin' With The Boys with Barstool Sports! This was such a fun conversation and we can't wait to have them back on the podcast. Hope you enjoy it! Links below :) We are sponsored by these companies that we love ▶ Athletic Greens! ▶ Visit athleticgreens.com/eastfam to take ownership of your health. Better Help ▶ Couple Things listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/EASTFAM. Modern Fertility ▶ Modern Fertility is offering our listeners $20 off the test when you go to ModernFertility.com/eastfam. That means your test will cost $139 instead of the hundreds or thousands it could cost at a doctor’s office! Follow Will Compton ▶ https://www.instagram.com/_willcompton/ Bussin' With The Boys ▶ https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Follow Charro Compton ▶ https://www.instagram.com/cheeto_charo/ Follow My Instagram ▶ http://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ http://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Twitter ▶ http://www.twitter.com/ShawnJohnson Snapchat! ▶ @ShawneyJ Follow AndrewsTwitter ▶ http://www.twitter.com/AndrewDEast Follow My Instagram ▶ http://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Like the Facebook page! ▶ http://www.facebook.com/AndrewDEast Snapchat! ▶ @AndrewDEast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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                                        What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things.
                                         
                                        With Sean and Andrew.
                                         
                                        A podcast all about couples.
                                         
                                        And the things they go through.
                                         
    
                                        Today we have two friends of ours who are so excited to interview because their story is amazing.
                                         
                                        Will and Charo. That's right. Will Compton, you may know from Bussing with the Boys, a podcast and show that
                                         
                                        is all about sports and has, it's really fun. You should listen to it. And then Charo, who also has
                                         
                                        an amazing approach and perspective on life. Yes. They are recently married. So we talk through
                                         
                                        their dating experience, their engagement, and their wedding. So in the interview, you will notice
                                         
                                        that Charle is very pregnant with their first little girl and first baby.
                                         
                                        And congratulations to Will and Taro, who have had their baby girl and had an amazing story.
                                         
                                        Congratulations to your addition in life such as this, which is get ready for it.
                                         
    
                                        It'll be fun to see how their life has changed since recording this interview.
                                         
                                        If you want to find out more about Will and Charo and what they're up to, we'll link their information down below.
                                         
                                        And before we get into it, please subscribe to the show and give it a rating on whatever platform we're listening on.
                                         
                                        Without further ado, we bring you Will and Charo Compton.
                                         
                                        A lot's happened since we last talked.
                                         
                                        You got married.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        No, no, you got engaged
                                         
    
                                        Because you were telling us off the show
                                         
                                        That you were getting ready to like buy a ring
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Wow
                                         
                                        Dang, I forgot about that
                                         
                                        Walt, here it is
                                         
                                        It's so exciting
                                         
                                        That is wild
                                         
    
                                        We got married
                                         
                                        We got pregnant right away
                                         
                                        And now we are 35 weeks along
                                         
                                        When I say we
                                         
                                        My wife is 35 weeks along
                                         
                                        It was we before
                                         
                                        It was we
                                         
                                        And everyone's kind of advised me
                                         
    
                                        That kind of shifts over
                                         
                                        We always said we
                                         
                                        but then it's no i say we too it's those are the hard times from like absolutely not it's i it's
                                         
                                        solo singular well i think you know we have our own story we don't yeah we just choose to suppress it
                                         
                                        will's very much about dad lives matter yeah oh my god and then i just yeah i just kind of sit
                                         
                                        over here and smile no here's the thing dude and you're just on the front end of this as
                                         
                                        as you're entering into parenthood as dads it's our role by the way you got the dad's
                                         
                                        My dad actually has their shoes.
                                         
    
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        unironically.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You can buy them at Costco.
                                         
                                        Unironically.
                                         
                                        Monarchs, the air monarchs.
                                         
                                        You can buy Nike's at Costco?
                                         
                                        I think so.
                                         
    
                                        I think so.
                                         
                                        I think you buy those.
                                         
                                        It's our role as dads to like the wives are the more like, let me make an analogy.
                                         
                                        We're the kite holders and they're the kites emotionally.
                                         
                                        Like they kind of, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        Yeah, the wind blows and they kind of go with the wind.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And we just got to eat it, bro.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We got to, you know, they're going through all this pregnancy stuff.
                                         
                                        I feel like you're digging us a hole.
                                         
                                        But I'm with you.
                                         
                                        Like, we're kind of in control.
                                         
                                        They're kind of just going with the flow.
                                         
                                        We got to reel it in.
                                         
                                        We're growing an actual human being and you guys are just sitting on the couch.
                                         
    
                                        I'm like, we're blowing in the wind.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't think that is it.
                                         
                                        I'll work on me now.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I actually feel like they'd be comfortable.
                                         
                                        Completely the opposite.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        I loved it, but I knew as you were saying it.
                                         
                                        I'm like, I know what I'm going to.
                                         
                                        Like, if anything, we are the anchors.
                                         
                                        And you all are just all over the place.
                                         
                                        So let me ask you this.
                                         
                                        Because this is, I'm excited for you guys to look back on this years from now, this interview.
                                         
                                        And like, pre-kids.
                                         
                                        I'm curious, what are your expectation?
                                         
    
                                        How do you think your life is going to change after you have a kid?
                                         
                                        You go first, babe.
                                         
                                        Well, you said the magic word of expectations.
                                         
                                        And I, apparently.
                                         
                                        we've worked on therapy
                                         
                                        that I just have
                                         
                                        really high expectations
                                         
                                        of myself
                                         
    
                                        and of people in my life
                                         
                                        so my actual job
                                         
                                        is to like release expectations
                                         
                                        right now
                                         
                                        high expectations is the worst
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        because we'll be in therapy
                                         
                                        Charles always needs
                                         
    
                                        the solution
                                         
                                        okay so what do we do
                                         
                                        and the therapist is like
                                         
                                        you don't always
                                         
                                        need to have the answer
                                         
                                        yes you do
                                         
                                        just like sit with it
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        yes you're like so okay
                                         
                                        but then how do we
                                         
                                        and she's like
                                         
                                        you're doing it right now
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        But if I would actually answer that question, yeah, I mean, it's like we're not, we can't be selfish anymore.
                                         
                                        I think that's kind of the maybe overarching theme.
                                         
    
                                        Like Will and I are both selfish in certain ways and we're also selfish with our relationship in certain ways.
                                         
                                        But when there's a baby, when there's a child that cannot care for itself, this new roommate that like all of a sudden it shows up in our home and like we have to take care of it even though we don't know her.
                                         
                                        But we do know her.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Wild.
                                         
                                        It's just such a crazy concept, right?
                                         
                                        But we have to now think about her
                                         
                                        and we have to put her needs first sometimes.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know if,
                                         
                                        I don't, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I mean.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I have no clue, man.
                                         
                                        I just know how I am
                                         
                                        like with my time
                                         
                                        and like buss in
                                         
                                        and kind of we get to do what we want to do.
                                         
    
                                        And I know my time management,
                                         
                                        my organization and like
                                         
                                        my structure of my
                                         
                                        days are going to kind of be gone, I feel like.
                                         
                                        You guys are laughing at organization.
                                         
                                        I've just.
                                         
                                        It's like so, it's so fun to listen to you because we were there, obviously.
                                         
                                        And our biggest fear in life was like, oh, we're not going to have that structure.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not going to get to work out.
                                         
                                        We're not going to get to travel the world.
                                         
                                        And like, I totally get it.
                                         
                                        And I love watching it because I'm so excited for you guys.
                                         
                                        But it somehow changes because we now find ourselves like choosing not to travel.
                                         
                                        because we want to stay home with our kids, like, actively.
                                         
                                        And it's just, it's really cool.
                                         
                                        I'm really excited for you guys.
                                         
    
                                        But it's like, like, last night, I know we were both tired.
                                         
                                        We had long days.
                                         
                                        We had to do, like, a baby birthing center thing.
                                         
                                        And I was, like, side-eye at me a couple times because I was, like, on my phone
                                         
                                        finishing, like, so I had just gotten back from the bus.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, okay, I got to be present for this meeting that, you know,
                                         
                                        learning about how to go to the hospital and everything like that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, dude.
                                         
    
                                        And we get done, and we start to watch Netflix,
                                         
                                        and I, like, pass out right away, and I was so tired.
                                         
                                        And then when I got up, I got to take Waffle out our little cute English bulldog puppy,
                                         
                                        and I'm like, gosh, why don't I got to take her out?
                                         
                                        And, you know, Charles, like, doing her thing.
                                         
                                        I'm doing my thing to get ready for Ben.
                                         
                                        I'm like, yo, I'm going to have to do this stuff at all times with the new kid,
                                         
                                        and I'm going to have to, you know, like, we'll get over it.
                                         
    
                                        Like, be a father.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        That sounds hilarious, but I'm speaking.
                                         
                                        you know it's just me right now or it's us but I'm speaking like selfishly
                                         
                                        then I'm just like dang my whole world's gonna kind of like shift it will and I can
                                         
                                        I can preach on this for hours we've done it twice now so we're in the thick of it but
                                         
                                        it changes and it becomes like not even a thought because you all of a sudden don't
                                         
                                        have an option and you love that little baby so much that it becomes easy to a certain
                                         
    
                                        extent like it's so hard but
                                         
                                        I feel like when you wake up in the morning you're like frustrated at your dog like
                                         
                                        oh why do you go pee it's like different with your daughter okay
                                         
                                        that's good for me to know because I'll I'll compare waffle to our little girl coming out
                                         
                                        I'm just like gosh I hope I don't feel this way you know what I mean when my my daughter
                                         
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                                        expectations and change in a really negative way. Yeah. And it's not all negative. Like I think
                                         
                                        people are scared of change because they're scared of loss. So we're scared of losing this time that we have.
                                         
                                        Like on, it's just so open and we can do whatever we want with it. We can go out of town.
                                         
                                        but there's so much we're going to gain
                                         
                                        right I mean
                                         
                                        we're going to gain this person that we love
                                         
    
                                        and that we love taking care of
                                         
                                        and that's going to be like our family
                                         
                                        or like our own nuclear family now
                                         
                                        and that's like that's exciting right
                                         
                                        yeah I know
                                         
                                        she's mature and deep
                                         
                                        yeah she's way more mature than me
                                         
                                        what's the dynamic here I'm curious we haven't
                                         
    
                                        talked much Charles so it's a pleasure to have this
                                         
                                        conversation we've heard a lot about you
                                         
                                        I do remember on your podcast
                                         
                                        We were like, tell us about her because you're getting ready to propose.
                                         
                                        What is the day?
                                         
                                        I'm blushing.
                                         
                                        I'm getting really hot.
                                         
                                        How'd you guys meet?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, gosh.
                                         
                                        Oh, I knew this would get to come up, which is fun because I got to pry at you guys with your whole situation.
                                         
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        I did listen to that podcast and laughed a lot.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        In the DMs.
                                         
                                        Well, I feel like I was almost you.
                                         
                                        And Will was almost.
                                         
                                        on in the situation.
                                         
                                        You were chasing him.
                                         
                                        Not really.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, not really.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        But I did send the first DM.
                                         
                                        We can start it there.
                                         
                                        It's a crazy full circle.
                                         
                                        You're going to start in 2014 or 2015?
                                         
                                        2014.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        We was 2014.
                                         
                                        We were at Dallas.
                                         
                                        We were playing the Cowboys on a Thursday night game.
                                         
                                        Monday night football.
                                         
                                        Monday night football, one of those primetime games.
                                         
                                        And cheerleaders don't get to travel, but a few get to
                                         
                                        to go to the away games you know to support the team or whatever because you were an NFL cheerleader
                                         
                                        at the time yes for which team for the Washington Redskins okay yeah Washington yeah a little dicey
                                         
    
                                        but so Charo travels to the game I'm just out doing warm-ups doing all of our pre-game stuff before
                                         
                                        you go into the locker room before you have you know the coach calls it up we're out doing our
                                         
                                        pre-game stuff and you are playing for the Redskins I'm playing okay I don't we don't know each other
                                         
                                        at all just we don't know painting the picture I have been cheering since 2010 okay it's now
                                         
                                        Yeah. And I noticed Charo on the sideline. And I kind of see this girl. I'm like, oh, man. She's wearing regular street clothes.
                                         
                                        Okay. Yeah. And I'm kind of like, you know, into her, right? And you know how, you know how dudes are? Like, I saw Charo and I'm thinking like, oh, yo, who is the chick? And I felt like she was looking at me, but I wasn't sure. I'm in all my gear. I'm in my helmet and everything. And this is pre-veneers, too.
                                         
                                        And you do the whole eye black and everything, too? Yeah. Yeah. So. Pre-Vaneers.
                                         
                                        Yeah, these are veneers.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, see.
                                         
                                        Have you not seen Will's old teeth?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Oh, I wish we could pull those up.
                                         
                                        Will's walking around like this.
                                         
                                        Hey, take out why I would do it?
                                         
                                        This is Direc.
                                         
                                        This is DirecTV, the old cell was cable television.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And I don't know if she's looking at me, but it seemed that way, because we're all out there on the field and stuff.
                                         
                                        And so I'm like, I'm going to look at her as I'm like running by to go back to the locker room playing in Dallas.
                                         
                                        And I run by, and I felt like we were looking at each other.
                                         
                                        But that was it.
                                         
                                        Were you running by like this?
                                         
                                        Yeah, running by kind of like looking like, yeah, was she staring at?
                                         
                                        And I thought we made eye contact, but it's hard to tell what their helmets on.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So that was kind of the end.
                                         
                                        Kind of running and kind of turned up a little bit.
                                         
                                        And that was it.
                                         
                                        That was it.
                                         
                                        And I did say to my friend that day, like, who's number 51?
                                         
                                        She's like, oh, that's Wilcompton.
                                         
                                        So she was looking.
                                         
    
                                        And I was like, oh, I don't know who that is.
                                         
                                        But we don't know anything after that.
                                         
                                        A year goes by.
                                         
                                        There's no, I'm not, I can't, I don't know who she was.
                                         
                                        She didn't, I mean, she knew who I was.
                                         
                                        But I didn't know what was happening to where we're trying to like find each other, right?
                                         
                                        So a year goes by and the next off season we're doing Alfred Morris's charity event.
                                         
                                        D.C. for kids.
                                         
    
                                        I like how he said, she knew who I was.
                                         
                                        I'm a little confident, bro.
                                         
                                        She knew who I was.
                                         
                                        But she would have tried to, you know,
                                         
                                        reach out or something.
                                         
                                        But the next year, we're at the charity event for Alfred Morris,
                                         
                                        and Charo was there with her at the time, a boyfriend.
                                         
                                        His name, yes, never mind.
                                         
    
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        I'm just going to say his name was also Will.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's all I was going to say.
                                         
                                        I thought I was going to be like.
                                         
                                        No, it wasn't big like that.
                                         
                                        We just had the same name.
                                         
                                        But I'm also there in street people clothes, not as a cheerleader.
                                         
    
                                        And it's for, um, it's an adaptive clinic for kids of disabilities.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        there we go and will was hungover
                                         
                                        and I was there as a volunteer
                                         
                                        so I was helping the kids go through their drills
                                         
                                        yeah and Charles goes through my drill
                                         
                                        and I'm like you know who is this smoke
                                         
                                        going through my drill
                                         
    
                                        and she's got her boyfriend with her
                                         
                                        she's got a guy with her
                                         
                                        and during lunch you're like yo dude your footwork sucks
                                         
                                        bro yeah and during lunch
                                         
                                        there was like a pizza break and Charles walking
                                         
                                        and she had a pro bowl hat on
                                         
                                        and so
                                         
                                        my way I was trying to like talk to her I was like
                                         
    
                                        oh hey where'd you get that Pro Bowl hat
                                         
                                        and she was like the Pro Bowl
                                         
                                        and I'm thinking my head like okay man
                                         
                                        and I'm like
                                         
                                        did you go did you like go to the game
                                         
                                        and she was like yeah I was in it
                                         
                                        and I was like oh you're in it she's like yeah
                                         
                                        I cheer for you guys I'm like for the for the Redskins
                                         
    
                                        she's like yeah I was like oh snap and then
                                         
                                        we kind of just met right there in passing
                                         
                                        The next day
                                         
                                        And the other will is standing right there
                                         
                                        And he was like
                                         
                                        We were just an innocent exchange
                                         
                                        Like six words
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
    
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And you shut them down
                                         
                                        Kind of like
                                         
                                        Where'd you get that Pro Bowl
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Literally
                                         
    
                                        The Proble
                                         
                                        I bought this on
                                         
                                        On Amazon
                                         
                                        And the next day
                                         
                                        I opened up my Instagram
                                         
                                        I'm right with my boy
                                         
                                        Sean LaVout
                                         
                                        He was on offensive lineman at the time
                                         
    
                                        And I had this DM
                                         
                                        From Charo
                                         
                                        And
                                         
                                        she had slid in my dms
                                         
                                        I had my phone had gotten
                                         
                                        like a little inebriated the night before
                                         
                                        so my phone sent that message
                                         
                                        yeah when I was out late
                                         
    
                                        yeah Charles out late and like
                                         
                                        she the DM said
                                         
                                        we're kind of out ourselves a little bit
                                         
                                        we really are but we can like clear things up later
                                         
                                        for sure I mean we're married we're gonna have a kid it's all
                                         
                                        yeah but she was like hey
                                         
                                        I see you have a I know I see you have a girlfriend
                                         
                                        I have a boyfriend I have a boyfriend but that doesn't
                                         
    
                                        we can't be friends.
                                         
                                        What does that mean?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Talk to me.
                                         
                                        Coming on strong.
                                         
                                        What does that mean for a guy?
                                         
                                        You're making plays for sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        that's funny.
                                         
                                        What are you trying to,
                                         
                                        what are you trying to get from that message?
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
                                        ultimately probably.
                                         
                                        The relationship I was in
                                         
                                        was very unhealthy and bad.
                                         
    
                                        I will prophes it with that.
                                         
                                        But, um,
                                         
                                        that's a power.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Hey,
                                         
                                        you say everybody's fair game
                                         
                                        unless you're married.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
    
                                        that you have literally said that,
                                         
                                        which I don't really agree with.
                                         
                                        She like a dresser.
                                         
                                        She was like, yo, we're all dated up.
                                         
                                        But like, let's start walking down this path.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And so we get into a couple messages and we figure out,
                                         
                                        she was like, I had saw you.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        We had said something.
                                         
                                        She was like I was at your game.
                                         
                                        And to us, or last year against the Cowboys.
                                         
                                        And I'm thinking, yo, is this that chick?
                                         
                                        And we come to find out like, it was her.
                                         
                                        That's funny.
                                         
                                        This is romantic.
                                         
    
                                        Isn't it so romantic?
                                         
                                        That is really cool.
                                         
                                        But to get there, it was like, and then we, you know, we message, we end up.
                                         
                                        But we didn't hang out for months.
                                         
                                        She wouldn't give me her number.
                                         
                                        We only DMed.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she only kept me in the game.
                                         
                                        You were playing games.
                                         
    
                                        She's playing games, bro.
                                         
                                        I wasn't playing games.
                                         
                                        So you sent the message.
                                         
                                        I mean, she had to make him work for it.
                                         
                                        Are you getting?
                                         
                                        Come on.
                                         
                                        No, that, at that point.
                                         
                                        But will also, let's be clear, Will literally was in a relationship.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, we were on a break.
                                         
                                        Will had a girlfriend.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        But yeah.
                                         
                                        And so, you know, we messaged for a long time before she even gave me her number.
                                         
                                        and then eventually when she had gotten out of a relationship fairly soon after that, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Then mine was like the next year and then.
                                         
    
                                        The next year.
                                         
                                        No, I waited a very long time.
                                         
                                        But I didn't actually wait around.
                                         
                                        Like I did, I was like getting over the last relationship.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        How did you get over the last relationship?
                                         
                                        What's that process look like?
                                         
                                        That's like a, we're going from like funny jokes to like deep trauma.
                                         
    
                                        I was just kidding.
                                         
                                        I'm just...
                                         
                                        I feel like if you're in a relationship,
                                         
                                        or when I was in a relationship with this person
                                         
                                        for five years on and off
                                         
                                        and when you're in a relationship for so long,
                                         
                                        it takes a long time to, like, unwind it,
                                         
                                        kind of.
                                         
    
                                        So we were just kind of off and on,
                                         
                                        and I think at the end of it,
                                         
                                        the only thing we hadn't tried
                                         
                                        was, like, breaking up.
                                         
                                        And it'd gotten really, really unhealthy.
                                         
                                        And it's really hard to see that situation
                                         
                                        when you're in it, I think.
                                         
                                        So, like, all my friends are like,
                                         
    
                                        this is not good for,
                                         
                                        for you get out of it end it and eventually i just finally listened to them um and it was a great
                                         
                                        decision it was really hard but it's weird talking about that person now like me as that person and my
                                         
                                        ex because it was such a big part of my life then but now it's it's like zero part of my life
                                         
                                        it's crazy it's it's really weird yeah because you were in that relationship for eight and a half
                                         
                                        years yeah mine was eight and a half years whoa yeah so it was a long time and it is
                                         
                                        it's super hard when you like got to get out of it and then like you know you probably talk to like younger
                                         
                                        kids or you know my little brother or somebody who you kind of like mentor right and they're in like a
                                         
    
                                        relationship or you're kind of trying to tell them or kind of give them game on like hey it's going to be
                                         
                                        okay but you just can't teach experience yeah you can't get people like the experiences that you went
                                         
                                        through being like you're going to be okay like making like getting uncomfortable in doing this
                                         
                                        because ultimately you know it's the right thing but you're so comfortable in it
                                         
                                        yeah that you don't know anything else and you think about the grass being greener all the
                                         
                                        time and then you kind of get an opportunity to be there and then you don't want to and then you're
                                         
                                        like oh man but what if it's you know what if it's not and then you just stay in the situation
                                         
                                        that you're in right because you're so afraid to like get away from what you're used to yeah well
                                         
    
                                        you're afraid to start over too because it takes a long time to get to know someone and date them
                                         
                                        and get comfortable again and that like a lot of times people just stay because it's a
                                         
                                        lot of work too you feel like you waste your time too yeah if I end this like all this you look
                                         
                                        back on your last few years like I'll look back on like when it was happening in like your six and
                                         
                                        seven and seven you're kind of like going back and forth with all of it and you like think about
                                         
                                        cause you're like man I just don't want to feel like I wasted all my years in college and stuff
                                         
                                        like that and you're like you like almost you like climb another mountain like you said just you don't
                                         
                                        want to go back down and start over climbing another one yeah but all those things you learned along
                                         
    
                                        the way are so valuable absolutely which is like what we eventually get to
                                         
                                        too right yeah i mean we've always talked on our podcast i was in a four or five year relationship
                                         
                                        before andrew it was very unhealthy and i truly don't think i would have dated andrew if it
                                         
                                        weren't for that relationship so you don't regret it but you learn that's true yeah
                                         
                                        100% wasted is not the right way to view it it's not like uh oh that was just such a because
                                         
                                        like there's good stuff that comes from that and i feel like i feel like it's not healthy
                                         
                                        when you view past relationships as like like Sean and I don't talk about our
                                         
                                        exes all the time because nobody likes that but like it's it's like we'll talk about
                                         
    
                                        memories of hey I went to whatever like took this trip and it's not we're not
                                         
                                        trying to like hide anything I feel like that's a that's a bad way to approach it
                                         
                                        where you try to act like that never exists right you know what I'm saying like that
                                         
                                        that phase of life just wasn't there but if you're appreciative for the good that you got
                                         
                                        out of it to like Charles point like there's it's a process of getting to where you are now but
                                         
                                        how long do you guys date before you got engaged you dated um officially
                                         
                                        yeah it was like two and a half years quote unquote official of officially dating yeah
                                         
                                        so you were in a five year you were in an eight and a half what like you just knew though
                                         
    
                                        with Charles and that you know then we're a little older now we have this experience of what
                                         
                                        what did not work right of what we did not want yeah and all these insecurities that came
                                         
                                        along with those things.
                                         
                                        So I think it was
                                         
                                        like a certain maturity you reach, perhaps.
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                        Because I didn't doubt it
                                         
                                        after two and a half years.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, of us getting married?
                                         
                                        Yeah, of us getting engaged.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I tell you're asking about like
                                         
                                        the in-between of the relationships.
                                         
                                        No, how did you know?
                                         
                                        Like, because you were in an eight and a half
                                         
                                        year relationship, but after two and a half years
                                         
    
                                        with Charles, you were like...
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean...
                                         
                                        It's time to move it.
                                         
                                        too like when you're in a long-term relationship and you kind of view your young yourself in a certain way like you do i feel like you
                                         
                                        you grow through experiences and gain a little bit more wisdom and knowledge like with yourself you're more
                                         
                                        comfortable with who you are and um you kind of just feel like you're in a place to where you're ready
                                         
                                        to accept stuff like that like sometimes i just felt like i would battle and be in my own head about
                                         
                                        wanting to do other things right by going and playing in the NFL and you kind of you get
                                         
    
                                        caught up in some of that stuff and um i do feel like it's like a level of maturity and charl was
                                         
                                        somebody who you know obviously i was into from a like being attracted to her standpoint but
                                         
                                        obviously her speaking on this podcast she has like this intellectual and brain capacity that
                                         
                                        we sit and when we go on our dates and everything like that like we're always kind of talking about
                                         
                                        things like this.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, I've just...
                                         
                                        How did you propose?
                                         
                                        Oh, this is awesome.
                                         
    
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                                        Oh, I mean, it's not like, it is awesome, but it's just funny because I get super nervous, like getting really like.
                                         
                                        He's nervous right now. Yeah, I get super nervous getting like, like gooey, I guess, or like, you know, getting like feelings, vulnerable.
                                         
                                        Yeah, vulnerable in like a relationship or like with Charo or being, yeah, like that, that romantic movie.
                                         
    
                                        Are you okay?
                                         
                                        Your body language is just like.
                                         
                                        No, I'm like trying to like be in the moment.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And proposing to Charo, I knew I would struggle getting down and being in public in front of people and being, you know, like a romantic stuff.
                                         
                                        style getting gooey and so she had always wanted like a love letter written from me and I would just
                                         
                                        always tell her babe you're not getting a love letter from me that I'm not writing you a love letter
                                         
                                        you're really clear with each other about her expectation yeah yeah yeah and uh I'm like you know I'm
                                         
    
                                        not going to do that and she's like I think of you because she loves cards and she loves writing
                                         
                                        you know what I mean like Valentine's Day she got me a card and had writing and so like that
                                         
                                        And when I saw the card, I was like, oh, I didn't write like a car.
                                         
                                        I shouldn't order a car.
                                         
                                        Like, she loves that stuff.
                                         
                                        And so when I knew I was going to propose, I was like, oh, I got it.
                                         
                                        I can help my fear of, like, being in public and proposing in front of people and, like, saying stuff.
                                         
                                        By writing a letter.
                                         
    
                                        By writing a love letter.
                                         
                                        We got there.
                                         
                                        Because she doesn't ever think I'm going to write her a love letter.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        So I sat, I wrote her a love letter.
                                         
                                        I got these reservations.
                                         
                                        She flew in because that was my first sin in Oakland.
                                         
                                        And that was kind of in the back half of the year.
                                         
    
                                        So going to Oakland kind of upended what I was thinking about proposing.
                                         
                                        And it was about to be her birthday.
                                         
                                        I wasn't sure if I wanted to do it on like Christmas or do it in some other way.
                                         
                                        There was a Christmas story in there, too, that I kind of just didn't do it then.
                                         
                                        But the day before a birthday, I took her out to eat.
                                         
                                        We got this little reservation at the front, like on this restaurant that's right on the street.
                                         
                                        And we had this table that was right in the front window, just a little too-season.
                                         
                                        reader and it was her birthday and I was like I got you a birthday present and I pull out this
                                         
    
                                        envelope and I handed to her it was like a business envelope you got to make do with your resources
                                         
                                        and she opens it up and she starts like reading I'm like you got to read it aloud that's the
                                         
                                        only stipulation for this she's like why do I got to read out I'm just like read it aloud
                                         
                                        so she starts reading it she doesn't know I'm going to propose she just starts tearing up I think it's
                                         
                                        like a birthday card yeah because she realizes I'm writing her a love letter on her birthday
                                         
                                        And then the last paragraph, that's where I bring it home.
                                         
                                        And then I kind of move the table aside.
                                         
                                        I get out on the knee.
                                         
    
                                        You move the table.
                                         
                                        He has to move the table.
                                         
                                        There's a small restaurant.
                                         
                                        We moved to the inside.
                                         
                                        I get out on the knee and she's crying.
                                         
                                        And I'm like kind of like, I'm so nervous.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        She says yes and we just have the best time.
                                         
    
                                        That's great.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You did it towards the beginning of dinner or the end?
                                         
                                        The end.
                                         
                                        The end.
                                         
                                        The end.
                                         
                                        I think that's a play.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        How nervous were you leaving up?
                                         
                                        Bro, my heart.
                                         
                                        Like the whole dinner?
                                         
                                        I was going to say,
                                         
                                        I feel like it would almost be easier
                                         
                                        to just do it at the beginning.
                                         
                                        But then what do you talk about after?
                                         
    
                                        You're just like,
                                         
                                        oh,
                                         
                                        I can't believe we did it.
                                         
                                        I don't have the steak.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        I just feel like you'd be so nervous the whole time.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, I was, man.
                                         
                                        My answer's sweating out telling the story.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        just the story.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Someone asked, like,
                                         
                                        why do you get nervous for a proposing?
                                         
    
                                        Because you guys,
                                         
                                        you like,
                                         
                                        there's no question that she was probably going to say yes, right?
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        man, I'm just kidding.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, I know.
                                         
                                        The nerves don't come from the 50-50.
                                         
                                        Do the nerves come from guys genuinely being like nervous will say no?
                                         
    
                                        Or is it like the nerves of commitment or the nerves of like the gesture?
                                         
                                        Like where do the nerves come from?
                                         
                                        It's got to be the gesture, right?
                                         
                                        I mean, obviously the commitment I feel like does play into it.
                                         
                                        Just being very real about it.
                                         
                                        Like beforehand.
                                         
                                        Like clearly you think about the commitment.
                                         
                                        commitment beforehand, so I feel like it's the vulnerability.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, so, like, that gesture, like, getting into, it means, like, going into, like,
                                         
                                        you know, your first game and you're just so super, you're, like, really nervous about performing,
                                         
                                        a big performance.
                                         
                                        Like, you know you've been planning on it and expecting and all this other stuff, but leading up to it,
                                         
                                        you're still, like, in your own head about it, and you've got to, like, zoom out to get out
                                         
                                        the nerves, but I feel like that's kind of a comparison from a, a sports metaphor.
                                         
                                        Yeah, from a jock.
                                         
                                        It was better my analogy earlier.
                                         
    
                                        but I don't know
                                         
                                        it's like it's like
                                         
                                        you do it one time so it's like it's just the gravity
                                         
                                        of the situation where you're like oh dang
                                         
                                        this is it this is the one like I'm proposing
                                         
                                        right now so my one shot
                                         
                                        you know I don't know I feel it's not the nerves
                                         
                                        that come from is she gonna say yes
                                         
    
                                        it's like this is a life changing moment
                                         
                                        do you think there are like proposals out there
                                         
                                        where it's like I don't know what she's gonna say
                                         
                                        probably that is true that's tough
                                         
                                        could you imagine like proposing
                                         
                                        and being like, no.
                                         
                                        Did you ever think she was going to say no?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, but I also don't, like, I think sometimes I'm like overly optimistic, too.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        I'm with that.
                                         
                                        You're a glass, that fool always, same.
                                         
                                        We had been dating for like two and a half years, so.
                                         
                                        I feel like if it is within a few months or something or the first year, then maybe you think
                                         
                                        about it, like, you know, is she actually thinking that?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        She going to be ready for this?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        but that would be tough man it's like hey let's just put this let's just shelf this for a little bit
                                         
                                        you know yeah that that would that would hurt the ego a little bit oh yeah I feel like getting
                                         
                                        engaged is kind of something that maybe you should talk about that before you get engaged yeah
                                         
                                        like that just symbolizes you're communicating and that you're yes have a healthy relationship
                                         
                                        that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying she's emotionally healthy what's your background charro
                                         
    
                                        what how did you get here you did cheerleading for how did I get here
                                         
                                        I cheered in the NFL for five years.
                                         
                                        Before that, I'd dance pretty, like, pre-professionally, I suppose.
                                         
                                        I was an accountant.
                                         
                                        I was a tax accountant for seven years,
                                         
                                        simultaneously with being a cheerleader.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        And now I work at Bar 3, so a fitness company nationwide, worldwide.
                                         
    
                                        And I just got a new job within the company, so I'm pretty pumped.
                                         
                                        That's awesome.
                                         
                                        Congrats.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Hang on, though.
                                         
                                        She was a tax accountant making solid money.
                                         
                                        and she left her corporate tax account job because she had like a passion to do like bar three
                                         
                                        and like help open a franchise and like be a manager they're like top five in the country
                                         
    
                                        why do you like it so much why do you care about so much why do i care about bar three um well dance is
                                         
                                        my first passion so dance i love dance since i was a really little girl and i'm sure you can
                                         
                                        relate to this type of um like mindset i really wanted to be a professional dancer
                                         
                                        And I think the choice came when I was going, had to choose college or dance, and I chose college.
                                         
                                        I don't know if that was the right decision, looking back on it, but, I mean, obviously, it's taking me to where I am right now.
                                         
                                        So it was the decision that has made me who I am.
                                         
                                        But, so dance is always my first love, right?
                                         
                                        And I went the accounting route because I have a logical mind and I love math and, you know,
                                         
    
                                        everyone needs an accountant right that's what people say so i got into the business school and i studied
                                         
                                        accounting and i liked tax accounting which is strange um so i got a job in tax in the time in 2008
                                         
                                        which was really um tough times for a lot of college grads i think to get jobs so i had job lined up
                                         
                                        before even graduated and i was like great i'm set i'm going to be a tax accountant i'm going to work
                                         
                                        at a big four um so i worked in public accounting for a while and then you know would show up to work
                                         
                                        every day and I would stare at spreadsheets and I would like make numbers appear out of numbers and
                                         
                                        I would file tax returns and it just wasn't very fulfilling for me personally that was my experience
                                         
                                        with it so at the same time I was cheering which you know is very spread thin I have no idea how I
                                         
    
                                        managed my time back then because at this point I'm like I'm gonna go to bed at nine and back then
                                         
                                        I went to bed like at 1 a.m. after practice oh my gosh and then I wake up and go to work and then I
                                         
                                        work out, like, I just do so many things within one day.
                                         
                                        But then when I retired from cheerleading, five years later, I was like, I'm going to need
                                         
                                        something to feed my right brain because I love dance so much.
                                         
                                        If I just have to go to my office job and, like, literally just make numbers out of numbers,
                                         
                                        then I am going to, it's not going to be great.
                                         
                                        I'm going to feel very unfulfilled and unsatisfied.
                                         
    
                                        So that was when there was a bar three studio opening around the corner from my house,
                                         
                                        and I reached out to the owner on Facebook, and I was like, hey, I'd love to come teach for
                                         
                                        I had taken birth three classes before and they really kind of filled that void for me of like
                                         
                                        movement and exercise and music and just all of it combined like just wellness feeling good
                                         
                                        because that's kind of what dance is it's movement to music got the job and really lobbied her
                                         
                                        heavily to hire me full time as her manager and she did so I took the job left my accounting job
                                         
                                        didn't look back and you know people kept saying you can always go back to
                                         
                                        tax and I didn't really like that because it's like I don't want to like in D.C. at the time and
                                         
    
                                        everyone kind of in that in that city it's very the question is very much what do you do and depending on
                                         
                                        how you answer that's kind of how they value you so since I was a professional back then I was
                                         
                                        an accountant I could say I'm an accountant I have like a prestigious job but then after that I wasn't
                                         
                                        saying that anymore I was I was saying I'm a fitness studio manager I work at a fitness studio and
                                         
                                        And I think for a while I didn't.
                                         
                                        I had to, like, validate it.
                                         
                                        But I used to be an accountant, you know.
                                         
                                        But now, I'm like, I work in a fitness studio.
                                         
    
                                        And, like, I don't care what you think about me.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't care if you think I'm smart or if you think I'm a sellout or if you think I'm, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        There's just such a perception of different career paths and it took me a while to create
                                         
                                        my own worth there.
                                         
                                        Where do you think, like, being a pro podcaster?
                                         
                                        I love that you said you put a pro podcast you guys too you guys are pro podcast you're not just a fitness studio manager now you're a franchise operations let's go Charo
                                         
                                        that was a lot of talking for me I'm sorry guys no that's what it's what podcasting is I know right but uh I think podcasting no to answer your question though for real like podcasting is it this is where all the conversations are being had right now it's interesting what here's
                                         
    
                                        Here's what I like about what we do is, first of all, like, you got a guy like Will,
                                         
                                        who, by the way, since the last time we had a conversation with Will on a podcast,
                                         
                                        bustling with the boys has just blown up.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Thanks, boy.
                                         
                                        And you were like, I remember that at the time, you're like, hey, man, like, you can do this thing.
                                         
                                        You know, no matter how it takes shift.
                                         
                                        He's like, you're like, you know, I know you depend and lean on and want to count on
                                         
    
                                        everybody, but you were always somebody who was like, you know, you can do this thing.
                                         
                                        Well, you were in a better situation football.
                                         
                                        than I was, but I saw that you loved
                                         
                                        to podcasting and you're like, I want
                                         
                                        like, I kind of would be into doing it
                                         
                                        full time. I'm like, you can freaking do it. Yeah, yeah,
                                         
                                        yeah. And now you signed with bar stool.
                                         
                                        Because Taylor was playing football
                                         
    
                                        and stuff would be kind of up in the air on like
                                         
                                        because at that time we didn't have a lot backlog during
                                         
                                        the library and you were like, hey man, like you can do
                                         
                                        this thing too. Like if you went full time, like
                                         
                                        you could do this thing. But yeah,
                                         
                                        I don't forget that, bro.
                                         
                                        But it's like his
                                         
                                        show, I don't mean to
                                         
    
                                        like, it's mostly like bros. Like it's like
                                         
                                        a, bro, it's like, the boys.
                                         
                                        It's the boys.
                                         
                                        Shonda these days been the only girl that's been on the bus.
                                         
                                        Seriously?
                                         
                                        Is that true?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You got to change that.
                                         
    
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        I do want to change that.
                                         
                                        But when you were reaching out to like my network, I can't help.
                                         
                                        You're about to be a girl dad, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I feel that.
                                         
                                        I feel that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm about to be a girl dad.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
    
                                        That brings all the girl.
                                         
                                        And Taylor's just a girl dad as well.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        Just a girl dad.
                                         
                                        Just a girl dad.
                                         
                                        You know, he's got two daughters.
                                         
                                        I get it.
                                         
                                        But nobody gets to see the,
                                         
    
                                        the gooey side of will and i think it's actually important because like no matter how much of a bro
                                         
                                        you are like you might have a girlfriend you might be gooey sometimes and i think it's good to see that
                                         
                                        every now and then and like i think you set a good example together you guys are a freaking great
                                         
                                        couple so like but what are your thoughts on being a girl dad while we're on the topic
                                         
                                        and i'm stoked when it first happened i'm stuck when we first got news
                                         
                                        I was convinced that little William Earl Conflin the 4th was coming.
                                         
                                        And when it was pink, dude, I was bummed that it wasn't a boy.
                                         
                                        I did.
                                         
    
                                        I had to, like, comfort him.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        And I even said, because I knew they were going to film us and stuff.
                                         
                                        I was like, babe, like, you know I want a boy.
                                         
                                        And I'm not going to be like everybody who's just happy that they're figuring out their kid.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm like, if it's not a boy, I'm probably going to be bummed.
                                         
                                        And I was bummed at first, but with 100% confidence, I think I am actually more excited about having a daughter now because I see the girl dad's out there.
                                         
                                        And I don't know.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know if it's, I'm growing like I've just accepted the fact that I'm having a daughter, but I feel like I, like being around Winning Willow, Taylor's daughters.
                                         
                                        And I just see the girl aspect.
                                         
                                        I'm just like, they seem a lot more fun.
                                         
                                        at this age than having like a boy.
                                         
                                        The boys are look, they're a little rowdy now.
                                         
                                        Especially a little William Earl of Fourth.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that boy would be.
                                         
                                        And I just know, you're like, you'll be better.
                                         
    
                                        It's better for you to have a girl.
                                         
                                        It's better for her to have a boy.
                                         
                                        And I do think it would be good for me to have like a little girl.
                                         
                                        So I'm very excited.
                                         
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                                        conditions we're talking about this the other night but like next go around
                                         
    
                                        doggy stop it stop it oh my god oh my god he's like stop no doggy stop
                                         
                                        that's how jett's here man that's how you know it's not scientifically it's a thing it's a thing it's not
                                         
                                        It's not scientifically proven.
                                         
                                        I think there's numbers.
                                         
                                        I think there's stats.
                                         
                                        There could be numbers.
                                         
                                        It might not be 100% but it could be numbers.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        It's not 100% shooing, but I think there is some science.
                                         
                                        I think there is some science.
                                         
                                        I've read that where it's the doggy.
                                         
                                        It's as deep as possible.
                                         
                                        Oh my gosh.
                                         
                                        Because I'll tell you why.
                                         
                                        And this is, hey, is this not a podcast?
                                         
                                        It's a podcast called a couple things.
                                         
    
                                        Like, we're trying to put couples on game.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        There's some dads like there.
                                         
                                        Or some guys out there are probably watching.
                                         
                                        I got three.
                                         
                                        I got three.
                                         
                                        I got three girls.
                                         
                                        girls, I need a boy.
                                         
    
                                        Like, here's your advice.
                                         
                                        Or the girls watching it be like, hey, honey, like, you always say this.
                                         
                                        I was listening to a couple things.
                                         
                                        And because the male sperm swims quicker, but the female sperm lives longer.
                                         
                                        See?
                                         
                                        So the closer you are, the better chance you have for a boy.
                                         
                                        Because if you're farther away, or not the most ideal position, the women sperm live longer.
                                         
                                        And clearly, they'll probably be smarter getting there.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        I'm going to jump back real quick before we go down any further.
                                         
                                        Hopefully that makes the cut.
                                         
                                        Hopefully that's just the episode.
                                         
                                        That's real talk, though.
                                         
                                        That's what you hear in the locker room is like,
                                         
                                        yeah.
                                         
                                        What you hear in the locker room.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I'm just saying.
                                         
                                        They're just talking about it up.
                                         
                                        I didn't just say that.
                                         
                                        The dudes who are like trying for a kid,
                                         
                                        they'll be out with their phones and we'll be in hot tubs and realize,
                                         
                                        oh, hey, guys, we got to get out of the hot tub.
                                         
                                        If you're trying to have a kid, you can't be in the hot tubs.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Very true.
                                         
                                        You got to watch the sperm count, man.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And you better wear the,
                                         
                                        The briefs and not the boxers, right?
                                         
                                        Or no, switch.
                                         
                                        Boxers are better.
                                         
    
                                        You don't want it snug.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's a little more.
                                         
                                        I want to, like, loose, you want to comfortable.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And stop riding bikes.
                                         
                                        Huh?
                                         
                                        Stop riding bikes.
                                         
                                        Bikes is not good.
                                         
    
                                        It's like cinches.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's like, because think about the seat, right where it's.
                                         
                                        See, this is.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I know it's funny.
                                         
                                        This is important.
                                         
                                        It's real, though.
                                         
                                        This is real stuff.
                                         
    
                                        You need to do a podcast on the best practices.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Anyways.
                                         
                                        We're educating the masses.
                                         
                                        thought I had was I said earlier I think a girl is better and for you and a boy but I only
                                         
                                        the only reason why I said that is when I had we didn't find out what our daughter was so it was a
                                         
                                        surprise we had her it was crazy we thought we were having a boy and we had a girl same thing though
                                         
                                        you're like hoping it's like a boy you just a dad you want a boy yeah you want a little you man so
                                         
    
                                        I was like check in like when she was stop no but you're I was hyped but you're looking we got
                                         
                                        Andrew back a lot we got him in his locker room person I guess yeah you did however it was it was
                                         
                                        really cool and it's been really cool over the past two years um I feel like a girl challenges me a lot more
                                         
                                        because I see myself in her I see everything I went through as a girl in my daughter and I felt like
                                         
                                        pressure from day one to almost try to figure out how to raise her to be better than I was to be like
                                         
                                        a stronger girl and a stronger like advocate and voice and like just like a really
                                         
                                        strong girl and I just feel pressure with her whereas like when we had our son I'm just like you're
                                         
                                        my boyfriend and I'm just in love with you that's it I don't like I can't see anything in his life
                                         
    
                                        but it's really cool to witness Andrew raise a girl because just like you you guys are so like you're such
                                         
                                        strong men and like your beliefs and your values and like it's just really cool to see you share that
                                         
                                        with a girl, I think.
                                         
                                        I'm a stronger man, though, physically stronger, I think.
                                         
                                        You might be.
                                         
                                        I've seen your videos now.
                                         
                                        I see how you get down in that basement.
                                         
                                        Sorry, I ruined the moment.
                                         
    
                                        You did.
                                         
                                        That was really, that's really cool, though, because I do agree with that.
                                         
                                        It's like, whether it's philosophy, like we were talking about J.P. early, like,
                                         
                                        Jordan Peterson, like, all this stuff that you get into.
                                         
                                        And, yeah, I mean, you were an Olympian.
                                         
                                        You perform at such high levels.
                                         
                                        Like, there definitely is.
                                         
                                        Like, I do, I feel like I can say that I would probably be different with.
                                         
    
                                        the girl and the boy,
                                         
                                        just because I would want the little Liam is what we're going to call him.
                                         
                                        Little Liam,
                                         
                                        I'd want him to be better than me,
                                         
                                        and I would want to instill everything I know now into him sooner
                                         
                                        before he gets to my age.
                                         
                                        So he doesn't,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
    
                                        whether it's make the same mistakes or he understands sooner.
                                         
                                        But yeah,
                                         
                                        I like that because I would feel pressure.
                                         
                                        But didn't you say earlier you can't teach experience?
                                         
                                        You can't.
                                         
                                        But it's hard to.
                                         
                                        You got a good quote.
                                         
                                        You carry the directions when you're inside the box.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's true.
                                         
                                        So he's hard to, like, when you're in the box,
                                         
                                        you can't see it until you're like,
                                         
                                        you can't teach your experience.
                                         
                                        And then you're like, okay, yeah,
                                         
                                        I got to zoom out a little bit.
                                         
                                        But it would be tough.
                                         
                                        I have not thought about that in respect to raising a girl,
                                         
    
                                        but.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you might be putting on pressure on her now.
                                         
                                        Now I'm like feeling the pressure that you just talk about.
                                         
                                        I will say, though, there is, it's so special no matter what.
                                         
                                        Are you kidding?
                                         
                                        It's your babies.
                                         
                                        And my girl is my girl.
                                         
                                        She's my little girl dude.
                                         
    
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        And we definitely have a different bond than I think my son will ever.
                                         
                                        It's just different.
                                         
                                        It's just different.
                                         
                                        It's awesome.
                                         
                                        So let me give you the timeline of how the kid thing is paying out for us.
                                         
                                        First four months, grind.
                                         
                                        It's a grind.
                                         
    
                                        Like you enjoy every second of it, but like it's work like with you and little waffles.
                                         
                                        And then they'll like start crawling.
                                         
                                        They're a little mobile like six months.
                                         
                                        Six months to a year like crawling, moving around.
                                         
                                        You get hyped about that.
                                         
                                        that but just now like Drew's two and a half and I was in the gym today like wrestling her
                                         
                                        playing around and she's like she has like awareness to be playful so it's like she kind of
                                         
                                        has another layer of reality that she's able to be playful with now yeah and dude it's just like
                                         
    
                                        every step gets better and better so but you got to make it through the first four months
                                         
                                        well you got okay last thing because that's daunting again I'm just but sometimes you need the
                                         
                                        truth set me up anchor me in like oh man it's going to be a grind and then when it's not as bad
                                         
                                        oh it wasn't as bad as what i was thinking i will say this before we had drew because we were like
                                         
                                        the first of our friends to have kids every single person told us like oh why so early you're gonna lose
                                         
                                        like your freedom you can't travel all these things it was all pessimistic and it was all like
                                         
                                        negative expectations and i can truly say it's the greatest thing that has ever happened to us
                                         
                                        in our entire life having kids yeah yes it's made us closer it's made our relationship stronger
                                         
    
                                        It's made just how we view life better.
                                         
                                        It's truly the greatest blessing in the entire world.
                                         
                                        It is amazing.
                                         
                                        So when you say it's made you two stronger,
                                         
                                        I feel like, you know, you get mixed experiences.
                                         
                                        Like some people, they kind of grow apart
                                         
                                        because maybe the mom is getting what she needs from the baby
                                         
                                        or they're just, you know, you're so focused on the baby,
                                         
    
                                        you don't give each other intentional time.
                                         
                                        So how have you guys practiced that?
                                         
                                        actually learned that on this podcast from a different couple like an older couple and they said
                                         
                                        the most important thing to remember when you have kids is that you two are always each other's
                                         
                                        number one and then your kids are your number one if that makes sense collective number one
                                         
                                        collective number one so you always have to remember your better parents when you're stronger
                                         
                                        together and it's so easy with kids like you said if you get in an argument
                                         
                                        to go get your like love and your cup filled from your kid instead of your husband or your wife
                                         
    
                                        and if you always remember to like make each other a priority then you guys are teammates and
                                         
                                        you can like fight off the kids if that makes sense literally I do think there's a little bit of
                                         
                                        a perspective that we have where it's like Sean and I burst the kids like not not like
                                         
                                        aggressively but it's like yeah we freaking it's us and and we're figuring you guys out I is not
                                         
                                        like individual you know what I'm saying yeah I say that though and this is it's so good I don't want
                                         
                                        this any of this come off wrong I say that because the day we went in to have our daughter um my
                                         
                                        biggest fear was that I was going to lose my husband because there was going to be a kid to almost
                                         
                                        like wedge between us that was my biggest fear and so we almost like made a pact at the hospital
                                         
    
                                        we're like no matter what you are my number one and it's us versus the kids and it's actually
                                         
                                        made it better because we enjoy our kids
                                         
                                        more.
                                         
                                        I feel like they could be one of your bigger fears.
                                         
                                        I haven't articulated it like that.
                                         
                                        It makes sense because you've never shared your husband with someone.
                                         
                                        Totally.
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
    
                                        yeah, I haven't.
                                         
                                        And it's another person that you're going to like split your husband with for the
                                         
                                        rest of your life.
                                         
                                        And they terrified me.
                                         
                                        It was like, what if he loves our daughter more than he loves me?
                                         
                                        And so.
                                         
                                        Like, I think Will loves Waffle more than he loves me.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I do love that bulldog.
                                         
                                        So I think with kids
                                         
                                        We just we've just made a pact
                                         
                                        And we've worked on it and it's hard
                                         
                                        But we've worked on it to make sure
                                         
                                        We prioritize each other
                                         
                                        Are there fears at this phase for you?
                                         
    
                                        I mean, you're asking someone who's like
                                         
                                        I'm going to labor soon
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Don't ask that question
                                         
                                        We talked about our fears
                                         
                                        With our duel the other day
                                         
                                        But I'm not so much scared of the pain
                                         
                                        I'm really scared of my expectation
                                         
    
                                        managing like knowing myself that's what i'm scared of um but then that fear too i mean also just like
                                         
                                        you take this baby home and it's like all right well now just a lot of uncertainty and unknown yeah
                                         
                                        but that really you're really it's there's when i bring myself out of it it's like there's nothing
                                         
                                        to be scared of no literally every human on earth has been born question yeah this isn't even
                                         
                                        have to make the podcast but you said doula are you doing homebirth we're not doing
                                         
                                        a birthing center though yeah great so homebirths really scare me is that a tough choice for you
                                         
                                        no it terrifies me yeah i'm like first birth definitely don't do not want to you can you can totally
                                         
                                        do natural but like have a doctor on the side just in case yeah no we're going to be the birth
                                         
    
                                        center that has a doctor amazing yeah yeah i think that's a great idea yeah what do you want to do
                                         
                                        baby.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, it seems like this and that, but that's what you don't want.
                                         
                                        You got to.
                                         
                                        You know, we were talking with her Dula about the epidural.
                                         
                                        Oh, you get it.
                                         
                                        And like, she's like, okay, if you say, like, if I say that I want the epidural, how many
                                         
                                        times do you want me to push back?
                                         
    
                                        Do you want me to, like, remind you that you don't want it?
                                         
                                        And I was like, you know what?
                                         
                                        Yeah, push back a little bit.
                                         
                                        Like, she's like, okay, I will push back three times.
                                         
                                        I was like, okay, this is great.
                                         
                                        And then we go.
                                         
                                        She's like, that's what I will do as the Dula will.
                                         
                                        What will you do?
                                         
    
                                        And Will's like, I'm not going to let her have it.
                                         
                                        Well, she's a do-lou is like, you know, I know it's probably going to be emotionally hard on you, Will, seeing her.
                                         
                                        I'm like, yeah, she doesn't want the epidural and we're deciding that right now.
                                         
                                        I'll be able to push her team to that F-A-D-D-Roe.
                                         
                                        It's different, though.
                                         
                                        Game Day's different.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
    
                                        I think Andrew was pushing me to get the effedure.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, because I was like, absolutely not.
                                         
                                        I have that same mindset, though.
                                         
                                        Oh, you were pushing and she said no?
                                         
                                        No, pretty much.
                                         
                                        I was just like, we had a game plan.
                                         
                                        On game day, he was saying, get it.
                                         
    
                                        Game day.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        On day of, I was like, whatever she says goes.
                                         
                                        But like, I definitely have more of the natural tilt where it's like,
                                         
                                        yo, we committed to not getting the epidural.
                                         
                                        That's what you wanted beforehand.
                                         
                                        And I had to like really push myself to be like, all right, she needs,
                                         
                                        she's clearly in a lot of pain.
                                         
    
                                        So I'm going to let her write this out.
                                         
                                        So our story was, I was.
                                         
                                        set on nothing.
                                         
                                        I was not doing
                                         
                                        after all.
                                         
                                        I wasn't doing medication.
                                         
                                        Nothing.
                                         
                                        I went into it
                                         
    
                                        completely natural.
                                         
                                        She tapped out.
                                         
                                        Quick.
                                         
                                        I tap.
                                         
                                        No,
                                         
                                        no, my bet.
                                         
                                        My dad.
                                         
                                        Not like that.
                                         
    
                                        I made it.
                                         
                                        I don't want to do a lot of things.
                                         
                                        Excuse me.
                                         
                                        Excuse me.
                                         
                                        I made it 27 hours.
                                         
                                        Okay,
                                         
                                        that is a very long time.
                                         
                                        I did not type out of quick.
                                         
    
                                        I made it 27 hours.
                                         
                                        My bad.
                                         
                                        Continue.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        I tapped out at 27.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        That's amazing.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        What were you saying?
                                         
                                        What are you saying?
                                         
                                        She tapped out real quick.
                                         
                                        That's all I had to say.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        We could keep you guys here forever.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not done yet.
                                         
                                        You're not done?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Are you done with football?
                                         
                                        Hey, never say never, man.
                                         
                                        So you got the phone ready?
                                         
                                        I mean, my focus going to this year is not the same as years past.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't close the door all the way, but I do love what I'm doing with Bust with the Boys and
                                         
    
                                        expanding kind of like the media and personality stuff that we get to do and then obviously
                                         
                                        becoming a father. I feel like being 32 going on 33, having nine years, there's just not a lot
                                         
                                        of stress for me at all to like have some decision and I'm not going to train like I'm going
                                         
                                        to go to an off season or something like that. Like we were actually talking about the other
                                         
                                        night and I'd probably be down to like play at the end of the year again. If that situation
                                         
                                        presented itself and you know how it is like again I'll be 33 at that point. Not a whole
                                         
                                        whole lot of film the last couple of years so you don't even know if i'll get the opportunity to but i think
                                         
                                        to say like yeah i'm done i'm not going to do it again um you know the last few years i feel like i've
                                         
    
                                        kind of said that i just don't want to put myself in that box because you just don't know i'll be
                                         
                                        ready to play but i'm more excited to do everything else than play football yeah first of all your
                                         
                                        your whole stint with oakland was like i mean what a roller coaster oh my gosh yeah i just got signed by
                                         
                                        Oakland next Instagram post all right I did they go
                                         
                                        Saman that's from your playbook oh bro that's my that was my MO yeah you go around and talk
                                         
                                        about your journey and situation at what point did the NFL come become plan B for you
                                         
                                        oh um I would say hey man a little bit the year I had you guys on that day the Jets had
                                         
                                        me called me to want to bring me out and I was like no I don't want to and then the
                                         
    
                                        And then you guys.
                                         
                                        The Saints called.
                                         
                                        Dang.
                                         
                                        And then I think I didn't answer my agents call that day so that way I could.
                                         
                                        Do the podcast.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        There's either that.
                                         
                                        I think they were the Jets.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you, Charle.
                                         
                                        Oh, you didn't pick that.
                                         
                                        Jets or Saints.
                                         
                                        But yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, Barstool is a different time.
                                         
                                        And we had a meeting with Barstool because they wanted to talk about bringing us on their network.
                                         
                                        And I really wanted to meet with Barstool.
                                         
                                        So I didn't call my agent at all back that day.
                                         
    
                                        And then I called late at night.
                                         
                                        I could put me on the next flight in the morning.
                                         
                                        I was working out or I didn't
                                         
                                        I just got to my phone type of thing
                                         
                                        so that way I could focus on
                                         
                                        Yeah I would say that's that that's the that was the mental
                                         
                                        Where I was like I'm gonna skip all season as much as I can
                                         
                                        And that point I did want to play I wanted to play that year
                                         
    
                                        But the next year the years after that was was all
                                         
                                        The last few years have been kind of like icing on the cake with it all
                                         
                                        And it's good for like legit this is it sounds so service level to say
                                         
                                        But it's like it becomes more of like the storyline of like oh this is
                                         
                                        it's whereas previously it was like i need to go do this try out and make the team it becomes more
                                         
                                        of like a hey this is going to be interesting to see how this pans out and like either way it's
                                         
                                        going to be a fun story to tell like on the podcast or on the boys it's like which is such a better
                                         
                                        and to bring it full circle like to parenting i think having that perspective like as you approach
                                         
    
                                        where we got trained with it in football but with parenting it's like going to be so tight
                                         
                                        easy to want to have like a tight grip on how the birthing experience is going to go or like how
                                         
                                        the schedule with the sleeping is going to go or how you're going to feed them and what like
                                         
                                        but like having almost like a like a little looser grip of like hey it's a it's going to be
                                         
                                        okay like this I don't need to force this is I think such a important lesson that I've learned
                                         
                                        through my career and then for sure parenting where it's like we have such a tight
                                         
                                        grasp of what plans we want to force into making a reality but like it's actually kind of fun
                                         
                                        to just sit back and enjoy the ride see how it rips you know what I'm saying like yeah no I agree man
                                         
    
                                        I'm excited and the it's funny because I feel like we just had that conversation the other night
                                         
                                        about playing and it's more along the lines of like don't be so committed to to something that you
                                         
                                        wouldn't take a better situation and so I feel like if I commit myself to saying I'm done
                                         
                                        and then the situation to arise is like well am I really done because
                                         
                                        the last couple years I've kind of said the same thing like oh I'm done after this year
                                         
                                        and then usually I kind of get into it or something happens where I just like five years
                                         
                                        no the year when I started the podcast I would kind of say this is probably going to be the last year
                                         
                                        and then in Oakland I got to play like I got to start so then it kind of revamped getting an opportunity
                                         
    
                                        for film because if I would have just played special teams and back up the rest of the year and I just
                                         
                                        would have been a service guy the rest of the year yeah I probably wouldn't have got to play
                                         
                                        anymore you know what i mean like the only reason that the titans and the raiders wanted me back
                                         
                                        and then i got an offer from the titans is because i was able to put more game film out there
                                         
                                        bro i was dying at the post you had when you got signed and it's like your neck all cranked up
                                         
                                        like i was your your instagram post are wild bro anyway i have i have fun on social media
                                         
                                        it's good uh i have to let them go you're going to keep them for an hour and a half
                                         
                                        we'll watch plus with the boys i do they're like three hours long sometimes we'll go around
                                         
    
                                        two hours.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Two, two and a half hours.
                                         
                                        I'm going to ask this question.
                                         
                                        If you want to keep going, you can keep going.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
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                                        below. So what the advice I was given and that I would give is therapy, going to couples
                                         
                                        therapy. My teammate, Quincy and Nunwa, shout out Quincy. He was on the Jets. I
                                         
                                        Play with him at Nebraska.
                                         
                                        What's up?
                                         
                                        Is there a phone ringing?
                                         
                                        It's literally a phone ringing.
                                         
                                        What is this?
                                         
    
                                        I'm dialing somebody.
                                         
                                        Who am I calling?
                                         
                                        You butt dialing someone?
                                         
                                        I just butt dialed somebody.
                                         
                                        Is that even a thing anymore?
                                         
                                        How is that possible?
                                         
                                        When somebody's like, oh, sorry, I butt dodging you.
                                         
                                        I'm like, how?
                                         
    
                                        But you just heard that live.
                                         
                                        Sorry.
                                         
                                        But Quincy, he's somebody that's very much in the, like, therapy and his wife is
                                         
                                        a therapist.
                                         
                                        Yeah, his wife's a therapist.
                                         
                                        And he's just somebody who's got.
                                         
                                        I feel like a lot of wisdom that I look at,
                                         
                                        and he's one of my friends that I kind of, like, look up to, right?
                                         
    
                                        And we have a group chat that we've had since Nebraska.
                                         
                                        It's called The Island, where a lot of,
                                         
                                        there's like nine of us Nebraska players in it.
                                         
                                        And Quincy was just advising all of us to go to couples therapies.
                                         
                                        Like, I think you guys should do couples therapy.
                                         
                                        It's like the best thing.
                                         
                                        If you guys plan to get married, whether it's premarral counseling,
                                         
                                        I would advise you guys just do couples therapy just to do it.
                                         
    
                                        And that's why I had brought it up to Charo,
                                         
                                        and we started going to therapy.
                                         
                                        and I feel like therapy has been such a good thing,
                                         
                                        a beneficial thing for us individually as a couple
                                         
                                        to where I talk, like, I'll talk about it.
                                         
                                        Like I'll go to the locker room, but hey, you guys should go to
                                         
                                        Columbus Therapy.
                                         
                                        Like I'm telling you, it's not like,
                                         
    
                                        like you'll get over the hurdles of like the fears
                                         
                                        that I feel like guys would go through going into therapy,
                                         
                                        being a guy and just speaking from a guy's standpoint.
                                         
                                        But, man, I think, like therapy, man,
                                         
                                        having somebody in a third party to kind of give you perspective
                                         
                                        and stuff like that,
                                         
                                        because I feel like it's helped Charon and I out tremendously.
                                         
                                        So that would be my answer.
                                         
    
                                        Go ahead.
                                         
                                        Good luck, topping that.
                                         
                                        Well, to kind of tie into your answer,
                                         
                                        my former boss at my Bar 3 DC studio,
                                         
                                        her name's Lisa.
                                         
                                        We were sitting and getting a pedicure one time.
                                         
                                        Sometimes we would have meetings in interesting places.
                                         
                                        And I was kind of venting to her about my last relationship.
                                         
    
                                        And she said to me,
                                         
                                        relationships should feel like work in the way that bar three feels like work and that was like a light bulb for me because
                                         
                                        I love bar three and it really filled me up to go to work each morning compared to my accounting job
                                         
                                        and talking about therapy now with will I was really excited to jump into therapy with will and do the
                                         
                                        work with him and like have hard conversations and get vulnerable and I remember I went to therapy one time with my ex and I didn't
                                         
                                        want to do it. I just, I had such negative stigma. I'm like, this is stupid. I have,
                                         
                                        there's nothing to gain here. I don't want to do this work. So it was just very much like,
                                         
                                        yeah, relationships are going to take work at times, but it should feel like work in a really
                                         
    
                                        positive and fulfilling way. And that's kind of like how I've measured the sick, like the health
                                         
                                        of our relationship now, which is amazing. Hey. I'm just putting this out there. I feel like
                                         
                                        bar three should let, Charles needs a podcast. She's deep, bro. She got deeper thoughts.
                                         
                                        Listen, I'm telling you, she was all nervous.
                                         
                                        I was like, babe, just be yourself.
                                         
                                        Like, how'd you feel like it went?
                                         
                                        Your first podcast?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
    
                                        Like, I'm going to have to listen to my voice later on a, on a.
                                         
                                        I will say that's always hard to hear your own, to hear yourself talk.
                                         
                                        It makes me cringe.
                                         
                                        No, that's the hardest part.
                                         
                                        Oh, I can't.
                                         
                                        I can't.
                                         
                                        Everyone tells you you have a great voice.
                                         
                                        Which helps gives me like affirmation, like, okay, like I feel better about myself.
                                         
    
                                        Damn, I never noticed that.
                                         
                                        But now that you pointed out, he does have that deep raspy, like, microphone.
                                         
                                        I think his friends used to make fun of him for his voice.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so there was, you know, tough upbringing.
                                         
                                        With the voice growing up and the teeth that I had, you'll have to look back, man.
                                         
                                        Just type in Will Compton, Washington.
                                         
                                        I had him during that time.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, it's always the worst part kind of hearing your voice.
                                         
    
                                        And then thinking about everything you kind of say, like, I was listening to some this morning while I was here.
                                         
                                        What am I just going?
                                         
                                        and talking more i like this part i like this part i was uh i'm looking it up
                                         
                                        well content washington you'll see it it'll be yeah it'll be right there you can't miss it
                                         
                                        it is she's not it's right there at the top and that's the photo i was sick enough too is it the one
                                         
                                        of you in the practice jersey still cheesing no it's and me cheesing you're kind of thick boy back
                                         
                                        then too huh you don't really thick neck yeah i had a 20 inch neck not to
                                         
                                        Like you measured your neck
                                         
    
                                        1920 back then
                                         
                                        Now I'm like a 17 and 17
                                         
                                        You're so stupid
                                         
                                        But I was listening to some this morning
                                         
                                        It's girth
                                         
                                        Do you ever listen to videos like while you work out
                                         
                                        Are you just like using?
                                         
                                        Oh yeah 100% no yeah
                                         
    
                                        So I was listening to
                                         
                                        It was a Kobe Bryant one
                                         
                                        And he was talking about himself
                                         
                                        And some of his growing pains and everything else
                                         
                                        And he's like at the end of the day
                                         
                                        You just got to get out of your own way
                                         
                                        And get over yourself
                                         
                                        Like thinking because we'll
                                         
    
                                        I mean we're all
                                         
                                        we all podcasts we probably overanalyzed some conversations or stuff we say it's like oh man this is
                                         
                                        this can really define us forever and you might look back on old stuff I don't know how much fun
                                         
                                        you guys had telling the stories on the bus right hilarious bro at the time maybe you're like oh man
                                         
                                        I don't know if I want that out let's just say you guys thought that way at the time but now
                                         
                                        being a couple of years removed like you see nothing really nothing goes on and damages you like
                                         
                                        you think it might in the moment so it's kind of like getting over yourself from that aspect that
                                         
                                        not everyone cares or thinks about you as much as you think they do.
                                         
    
                                        I agree with you with caveat that there are some things that you could say
                                         
                                        that would really derail the ship.
                                         
                                        But I don't think, yeah, you'd have to go down a real different path to make that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Ross, I'm just going to, I'll close with this.
                                         
                                        I'm going to send USFL.
                                         
                                        I send in the application, bro.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to come back.
                                         
    
                                        You're trying to make it.
                                         
                                        The U.S.
                                         
                                        Football.
                                         
                                        Did you really?
                                         
                                        They got just like a job application.
                                         
                                        It's like a L.
                                         
                                        It's like AFL or whatever.
                                         
                                        It's like a spring league football.
                                         
    
                                        It's not going to be the XFL?
                                         
                                        No, it's a U.S.F.
                                         
                                        You don't know about this?
                                         
                                        I come home one day and he's like, I signed up for the U.S.FL.
                                         
                                        I was like, what is this?
                                         
                                        I think the draft is like next weekend.
                                         
                                        Oh, you're going to get drafted?
                                         
                                        Are you going to have a draft party?
                                         
    
                                        Wait, did you see how they're doing the draft?
                                         
                                        Actually, I saw it on Instagram.
                                         
                                        I follow the USFL now.
                                         
                                        I have a lot.
                                         
                                        I have to figure out what you're doing.
                                         
                                        So every round, they're drafting every position.
                                         
                                        Longsapper, too, maybe?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Every round they're drafting every position.
                                         
                                        They're doing seven rounds, and every round they're doing one person of each position.
                                         
                                        Huh.
                                         
                                        Do you think the longsniper's on the list?
                                         
                                        Like, per team?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        How many teams are on this?
                                         
    
                                        Probably, right?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Maybe per team?
                                         
                                        I think there's eight.
                                         
                                        Eight teams?
                                         
                                        I'll send the job application.
                                         
                                        The long snapper's probably in there like in one round.
                                         
                                        No, it's in every round.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think a long snapper?
                                         
                                        I don't think a long snapper is.
                                         
                                        There's surely not.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        It is a seven long shepherms on two.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        That is some debt.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I know I saw long snapper on the first half.
                                         
                                        I'm going to try out with the longs meters.
                                         
                                        It's a seven longsackers, seven kickers.
                                         
                                        Just a bunch of sloppies standing around.
                                         
                                        Maybe that brought me the kids.
                                         
                                        You could make that.
                                         
                                        I mean, if there's seven of them.
                                         
                                        You got a good chance.
                                         
    
                                        If not.
                                         
                                        I don't want to slander any long snappers out there, but, bro, you can place a ball.
                                         
                                        I appreciate that, yeah.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        You got a line.
                                         
                                        There is not a linebacker's stature.
                                         
                                        If you can run and tackle, like that's such a ball.
                                         
                                        There's not a national team.
                                         
    
                                        So let's not encourage this.
                                         
                                        Oh, there's not.
                                         
                                        You have to leave the family.
                                         
                                        No, the family would come with, dude.
                                         
                                        We're making a big time.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to pursue a dream.
                                         
                                        Anyway, come on.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to pursue a dream.
                                         
    
                                        I really think Charles should have a podcast with bar three.
                                         
                                        I'm just putting that out there.
                                         
                                        Bar three.
                                         
                                        Are you listening?
                                         
                                        Would you do a pod name?
                                         
                                        I would have to get over my fear of myself.
                                         
                                        Like you just talked about.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she's like,
                                         
    
                                        do you think we're going to talk about?
                                         
                                        I would.
                                         
                                        Let's just say that.
                                         
                                        You got good things to say is what I'm saying.
                                         
                                        Thanks, Andrew.
                                         
                                        There's a lot of people who have podcasts that don't have it.
                                         
                                        You need a Bar 3 podcast,
                                         
                                        and then you're going to need a mom podcast.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's a whole other thing.
                                         
                                        That's what I'm scared of.
                                         
                                        I'm scared of losing my identity.
                                         
                                        yeah it's always been a fear of years from the very beginning
                                         
                                        it was like yeah that's another thing too and I know we were trying to
                                         
                                        wind up it's something that I know I'm trying to like there's really nothing I can do to
                                         
                                        prepare really I guess um but hearing about all the postpartum stuff
                                         
                                        that really freaked Andrew yeah it's like a yeah I know it's like a real thing so it's just
                                         
    
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                                        many variables involved. But with Sean, I was like, all right, we're going to try to get you outside
                                         
                                        as much as possible even if you're just laying outside, like get sun, get fresh air. And then,
                                         
    
                                        because you're going to be sitting on the couch a lot
                                         
                                        like probably watching Netflix because it's just
                                         
                                        kind of what happens. And I was like
                                         
                                        for the first six weeks, nothing
                                         
                                        but comedies. Like you got to be laughing
                                         
                                        like training that muscle just like laugh
                                         
                                        laugh laugh as much as possible. Nothing horror
                                         
                                        nothing sad, nothing scary, like
                                         
    
                                        just comedy. That would be my
                                         
                                        two things which that's
                                         
                                        not like deep advice but
                                         
                                        I would say transparency
                                         
                                        so like you have
                                         
                                        to voice to will what you're
                                         
                                        feeling and how you're feeling it.
                                         
                                        even if it seems like oh i can't like listen to her feelings anymore you'll start to hear
                                         
    
                                        you can you can hear trends so like you can hear trends of like where she's at so if she's
                                         
                                        constantly having a really really hard time then you would know that like it's time to pick it up pick
                                         
                                        up help give her more space give her more like alone time everything it's just there's so much
                                         
                                        demand on your body and on your emotions and on your mind and on your identity it's a it's a fight at
                                         
                                        the beginning and you just kind of have to like work through it but i would just say what we did
                                         
                                        because i i was very open we've been very open our relationship on on our podcast of like i struggled
                                         
                                        with eating disorders and mental health through like my career um so i was really scared about
                                         
                                        pregnancy and postpartum of how it would affect me so we just agreed that i would be very very
                                         
    
                                        transparent every single day of like how I was feeling if I needed help if I wanted to take an
                                         
                                        hour to go get my nails done to have me time it I think you just have to like open that conversation
                                         
                                        don't feel like you have to do everything on your own because yeah because sometimes I do feel like
                                         
                                        I can't ask I can't ask for help which is just all in my head right I mean did you stay home for six
                                         
                                        weeks pretty much bro yeah well has plans to travel I don't have plans to travel overnight I'm
                                         
                                        like one it's like one situation it's like one situation i don't want to say i was locked in like
                                         
                                        but you want to be readily you know available right yeah yeah and i think it could be fun too like
                                         
                                        hey will how like you get something to talk about that's true that's a little adventure you can share i would
                                         
    
                                        just hey like advise that if you do leave make sure someone is staying with you for help
                                         
                                        yeah that's one thing that we are trying to like really plan and dial in on which maybe we can get your
                                         
                                        guys just help.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we got all the references.
                                         
                                        Anyway, all right, let's just close us out.
                                         
                                        Thank you guys for the time.
                                         
                                        Charles, pleasure.
                                         
                                        You crushed the podcast game.
                                         
    
                                        Will, always a pleasure talking to you.
                                         
                                        In a year, we want to have you guys back on to hear how parenting is going.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I can talk with you guys all day.
                                         
                                        We're going to link Bustin with the boys, Charles, Instagram, Will's Instagram.
                                         
                                        Charles' new podcast.
                                         
                                        Charles' Instagram is way more like polished professional.
                                         
                                        Wills is just like a lot of reels a hatchet a Photoshop
                                         
    
                                        Monash
                                         
                                        We'll link that down below
                                         
                                        Thanks for the time
                                         
                                        I appreciate you guys
                                         
