Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 14 Best Friends

Episode Date: March 25, 2020

This week, in episode 14 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we sit down with some of our best friends & fellow Nashvillians, Mallory Ervin & Kyle Dimeola. Mallory & I go way back, I was one of her judges at a Miss America pageant actually. Turns out, we were just meant to be best friends when we ran into each other at a local Michael’s store (where else would we be?). Kyle and Mallory walk us through their love story, how they met, what happened when they faced obstacles in their relationship, and how it’s kept their relationship so strong today. One of the more interesting parts to hear is how they dealt with a breakup in their relationship. They give some great advice. Guys, to see the love between these two is so special and we were so thankful to have them join us. Wait until you hear them just gushing about each other in this episode. We look up to these people so much. It’s our pleasure to give to you, Mallory Ervin and Kyle Dimeola.  If you want to follow Kyle & Mallory, you can find them on instagram as @kyledimeola and @malloryervin. Also, make sure to give Mallory's podcast, Living Fully, a listen. You can find it here!  If you haven't yet, please rate and subscribe to the show to hear more! And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format - we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail].  We are supported by the following AMAZING companies! Make sure to check them out using our special code & link below!  LOLA! For 30%off your first month’s subscription, visit https://www.mylola.com and enter EASTFAM when you subscribe!  Rothys! Check out all the amazing shoes and bags available right now at https://www.Rothys.com/COUPLE.  ShipStation! You can try ShipStation FREE for 60 days when you use offer code EASTFAM. Just go to https://www.ShipStation.com, then enter offer code EASTFAM. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So you could just stare at his apartment. No. Oh my god. It's a mallee. You know, we have two little boys and I... You know, we have two little boys and I... Oh, gosh, I know what makes me cry. And Lily just went poof.

Are you serious? What's up everybody? Welcome back to Couple Things With Sean and Andrew A podcast all about couples And the things they go through I'm pumped for today We sit down with Mallory Irvin and Kyle Demiola

I feel like this is internet's favorite Favorite couple Yes I mean they're our favorite couple They're best friends Yeah I have known Mallory since I was one of her judges at the Miss America pageant where she was runner up in 2010. She then went on to the Amazing Race where she came in second with her dad.

She went back to do the Amazing Race two more times. Kyle Demiola, her husband, owned and ran a valet company from Nashville, Tennessee. But he now works for and with Mallory. And they explained the dynamics of their relationship, how they broke up and then ultimately ended back together and how that all happened. We love Mallory. I would say that we love Mallory and Kyle. Absolutely. But I would say Mallory is one of your best friends. Yes, she was in our wedding. I was in her wedding. What they now do is they work in the digital world as influencers. They're killing it. Please go follow them, check them out at Mallory Irvin. Also check out Mallory's podcast called Living Fully

with Mallory Irvin. And look out for her book coming at the end of next year. If you guys haven't yet, if you could please subscribe to this show and rate it on whatever platform you're listening to that'd be greatly appreciated hey also we've been including this on screen but for those of who are listening don't forget that you can change the speed of the playback as you're listening or watching you can go to the settings or it's right there on the apple podcast too you can just click the 1x make it 2x for those of you who are crunched for time i like to listen my podcast two times speed but i like to listen to it half speed but anyway just so you guys know that that option is that there um check it out let's go ahead and jump into this one with mallory irvin and kyle de miola hi hi welcome guys it's only taken um way too long to get you on the podcast tis the things with i feel like it was children sick children sick sick children it was one thing after another ringer in 2020 so we really have we've battled a lot of

illnesses in our household how does it work for two kids though because as soon as someone gets sick one person it's a merry-go-round is what it is so like one person gets done with a merry-go-round and then the next person gets on and then they have a sickness and then the next person gets on and they have a sickness and that's how it goes so wait till you have baby number two it's just going to be a thing lord it's about a month you can count on at least a month of sickness yeah because i mean you can't it's not like you can quarantine everybody's talking about the quarantines these days i even quarantined myself when i got the flu and And Shepard still got it.

So Shepard is our youngest son. Wait, isn't there maybe something to like, especially if you have multiple children, the second one of you get sick to just make everyone else sick immediately? It's a thing. Yeah, it's a thing. What'd you say? Is it like a... Sorry, I was just focused on my gummies and peace and quiet.

I'm here while your mom's watching the children now. Yeah. We're praying for my mom right now. She's watching the three children. Drew, Shepard, and Ford. I was saying, shouldn't you like as soon as one of you get sick, just kiss all over everyone and make sure you all get sick immediately. Oh, that would be a good idea, I guess. Yeah. But the thing is, is you need someone who's able to be the caretaker. So like whenever I was sick, laying in the bed with flu B, also you hear all of these things from all the doctors and pediatricians saying, don't let your child get around anyone with flu or RSV or anything. So I was really scared. So I quarantined myself. And, And Kyle was like, you know, I'm probably going to get it, but we can't have it at the same time.

Yeah, because you need one parent. You need one parent. And it's not like you can be like, hey, babysitter, do you want to come over and expose yourself to the blue to watch my children? For some reason, none of our babysitters wanted to work. Yeah, we don't know what. I mean, we had that in Park City. I got sick. I was out for 24 hours.

Like, I remember. Oh, my gosh. Couldn't leave the bathroom. And then you took care of Drew the entire day. And it was like two days later. We swapped. But what would you have done if you would have both had it at the same time? No idea.

You can't. So you have to do the merry-go-round version of sickness. You take turns and then you're sick for a whole month and then you miss seeing your friends and going out in public. And then once you can go out in public, then they shut the public down. Then it's the corona. Then it's the corona. Yeah. I'm sick of talking about the corona.

I'm changing the topic. Okay. Okay. It's because of you two that we're sitting here in the first place. Oh. Yeah. Mallory is the reason. that we started YouTube and being content creators in the first.

Kyle, you had nothing to do with. I'm not going to let me. I was still parking cars. Wait, do you remember the day that you had to come rescue me? That was a long time ago. Yes. Yes, in the gulch. Yes.

I was driving your truck, Andrew. I went to the gulch to turn up truck. Yeah. I forgot about that. And two people blocked me in. And I could knock it out with your truck. And I called Mallor. And she's like,

Oh, wait. Kyle, I'll save you. I was like, Kyle. It's my ballet parking. Your impression of morale, Mallory is hilarious. Kyle. What, Kyle. What, Kyle.

I want to know, I haven't heard this story, the first meeting between you two. Oh, well, would you like to tell it? Like, when we met, when the first time you met was. At Fido, yeah. Yeah, it was at Fido, so I was up, so when I owned my ballet company. So in the morning, I'd go to a coffee shop. and do like payroll and all of that stuff um and so i went to phaido one day i've never been there before ever and i was like oh this place may be good and so i walk in and to my right

i see this little blonde in these very short jean cut off shorts and i look over there and she has just dominated a whole plate of pancakes and so i'm like okay i may sit beside her i kind of like what's going on here and so I'm sitting down doing my work and I hear Mallory sneeze and so I said well bless you she's like well thank you said okay so I go back to doing my work and then I sneeze she's like well bless you I'm like oh thank you and then we just started we started talking and hit it off from there I think I came over to your place the next night not like just kind of hang out and um dang wow yeah moving quick it wasn't no okay Kyle's got a different version of this okay well what's your version I know first he he was sitting down first I think whenever I want to

are you sure I'm 100% sure oh a guy never forgets the first time he sees his girl okay so anyways back then I was really kind of floating around in life and didn't really know what was going on I think I brought a planter that was probably empty. I was crushing a lot of mimosas in those days. No more mimosas these days. Put that in the planner. And yeah, I know, more mimosas at my house. So I sat down and I was just like aimlessly scribbling stuff down, I'm sure, in a planner.

And Kyle, it's the only time I've ever seen him wear glasses. He doesn't wear glasses. I don't know why I had on glasses that day. Watch this be like a whole planned thing and I find out on this podcast today. He helped me. I wore these reading glasses because on our time sheets, I had valets write their times in. So I couldn't really read their really bad handwriting. So glasses helped.

That was a one time you ever wore glasses. Well, when I did the time sheets, yeah, I used to wear my spectacles. And he was using a mechanical pencil, I think. I was like, who does work with pencil? Seriously. I'm a big. In an ACT test, and number two, do you have anything to sharpen this pencil with me? I'm a big mechanical pencil guy.

I still. Uh-huh. So, and then, so we started, so the bless you, it was a bless you if that was a sneeze kind of thing. And then, it's so funny. So I had a, a girl walked over to me, a girl, her name was, her name's Nicole. I've only seen her like once since then. She walked over to me and was talking, and I was just having this long conversation. She did Miss America the year after I did it.

We were just talking about all those things. And after I talked to her, then I turned back over and I was like talking to Kyle. He's like trying to do work. And we were just talking. And then I was like, I don't know how we got on the subject about my grandpa, like, and our family's bourbon and stuff. And I was like, do you want to try it? And that's why he came over to, like, try it.

And it's like this crafted bourbon that my grandpa made and everything. And I was like, do you like it? And he's like, not really. Well, it was a flavored one that he did. He usually doesn't do. Smoky. And I just, I like his other bourbon better. That now he tries because we're married with two children.

downstairs yeah and now when we were in the car yesterday um i sneezed and forward from the back seat we have no idea how he learned it said bless you so everything just has come no way circle oh man that's sweet that's so cute that's really wait i need you guys to bring it full circle real quick you went back to fido oh you were there yes we um so years how many years did we date mao way too long kyle That's like we dated. We were ready for that engagement. Me and Sean both.

What? Just not, she wasn't as mad as me. I was worse. Dang, don't drag. Don't drag us. I mean, you did. You made me read meaning of marriage our first year dating. So I was like, oh, it's going to happen anytime.

I want to finish the story. Three years in. Well, yeah, Mallory, she held my feet to the fire. Yeah. We had taken a couple trips and she thought it was going to happen. It didn't happen. And so, I knew when I wanted to do it. I wanted to do it at Fido, and so I called Sean.

I was like, I'm going to engage. I'm going to propose to Mallor and called Mallory's family. And we all, everybody kind of hid in the back. And Mallory thought she was going to Fido for a business meeting. She had no idea. And it was special. It was pretty cool. It was so good.

I know. I was so excited. I love like her family, like her best friend being there. It was really, I'll never forget it. Yeah. It wasn't really good. Were there any pancakes crushed that day or not? I think I was on the whole 30 that time, and then I immediately got on a wedding diet.

So I probably crushed some pancakes, yeah. Okay, and then one more story that I want you guys to share is when you saw Kyle for the first time, because you guys took a little break. We took a little break. So it's so funny, you know, early in relationships in my life, I always thought, like, if you find the person that you're supposed to be with, you're always with them. You don't break up. you don't have like issues and stuff like that that like it's just not meant to be if you break up later in life as I'm older and wiser I realize that those you know bumps and those breaks those are the things that actually like made our relationship super strong and great so like we

took this pretty long break I was going through some stuff in my life this is like five or six years ago and I so we broke up and I hadn't seen her talk to Kyle in months and it was hard to reach me it was just it was all these things these factors anyway so Sean and I were like hanging out every day going to just back in the life where we used to get to like just go to breakfast like three mile runs like two a year do you want to go for a run sure do you want to go to breakfast now it's like we had to schedule this podcast like a long time of event months yeah so um we were at this coffee shop called the red bicycle and I was sitting oh we were sitting I was with her Sean's been like interwoven into this whole story.

I was very interwoven and so many things. So Sean was sitting facing me and I was sitting like facing Sean and I could see the cash register. And Kyle has this thing that he does where he like sways all the time. Sorry, I know that was not good for the audio. So he was like, I saw him from the back and I saw his hands and I like just knew his hands. And I was like my face just like dropped. You saw a ghost.

And I was like, oh, what did I say? I was like, oh my God, it's Kyle. I was like, you're fine. Yeah, you were like, what you're fine. You look good. It's fine. It's okay. Sean was like looking at me and I was like looking at Sean and then I'm just,

and then he turns around and he's like, then he saw the ghost. So then we're like both in kind of ghost mode and he's just walking towards me. And then it was just like, hi, Kyle. Wait, that reaction was because like, oh my gosh, the feelings are like so deep and real or like I don't want to see him. Like, which was it? No, it was, I mean, obviously, here we are sitting here today. It was a tough breakup on both of us. Like, I think we both knew that we were meant to be together,

but, like, we also needed that break for a lot of different reasons. And, you know, Kyle had tried to reach out to me. And I, and it was just, it was all this conglomeration of things. But, you know, like, seeing a person, like, in real life, it's, it was just like it overtook me. It was just... Now, I'll tell you what was overtaking to me, too. I'll never forget seeing your face.

But I will also never forget seeing the eye darts, Sean, was giving me, just looking to me like, oh, you. And that it's like the best friend, Idaarts when you break up with your best friend. I was like, hi, everybody. And I was like, huh? Because we had never met before. Because Mallory and I became friends and, like, started hanging out after you guys had broken up in that break yeah and again when there's heartbreak involved you always hear like

yeah dramatized stories of whatever and I was like oh so this is Kyle and again we're sitting here you guys are married have two of the most beautiful children ever but I will never forget I don't know if you even told Kyle this but when you guys are broken up how many times did we drive through the freaking gulch so you could just stare at his apartment. What? Oh my God. Mallory. When we drove through the gulch, I would look up

and I would say that's where Kyle lives. Thanks, Sean. I think the feelings are always there. She'd be like, oh, it's cows. We definitely walked past Andrew's apartment several times when we couldn't get a hold of you. They had nothing to. to do back in that.

Oh, my God. Nothing to do. Yeah, we used to like play pranks on you and drive fast. Yeah, it's just a couple, yeah. Would you have a couple gals having fun? Or yeah, too much time in their hands, maybe. But would you have described your relationship as volatile back in the day? Because here's what's interesting.

You guys both at this point, the Kyle and Mallory I know now, deal with conflict and like uncertainty and all this stuff so well. Thank you. That's a great compliment. You laugh it off and it's like, so I'm just trying to like, what was it like back in the day when? Well, I'm not sure. Yeah, back in the day, we had the tools to deal with conflict. And being a little older now, it's just we're better at it.

We've learned how to communicate with each other. Let's see, the word volatile, what do you think? Well, I mean, it was just, there were a lot of other factors at play to. I mean, youth is a great thing, but it's also like, it's a tough time to commit to a partner because you don't even know yourself. I feel like you don't, like Kyle just said, you don't know how to handle like actual issues and things. I had issues with other things.

Like I was drinking a lot and, you know, a bunch of different things in my life that were also factors. I mean, Kyle, too. And it was just, we were different people. And I always say, like, I. I'm really grateful that our relationship began in that type of setting because like we've seen each other truly at our worst. We've seen each other at our best. We have been through more together than a lot of people have after 50 years. And I think that's why our relationship is very

deep. Like I always tell people I feel like everyone's always like, you know, I married my best friend and like we're this and that and we never fight and all those things. I think those are great. But we have a very deep relationship and there's literally nothing that we can't get through. And I just feel very connected to Kyle like on another level, I feel like, but it's simply because like we went through the ringer before. And yes, I would say like parts of it were volatile and just and just so different than they are now. But you know, to anybody that's like listening to this that's in one of those relationships, It really feels a deep love and connection, but maybe you're, you're budding heads or you just feel like something is not quite right.

Like, work on yourself. I'm sure that the other person, if they worked on themselves, and like, you can come back together and have the best relationship in all the land. So, yeah, I think that, I think that, yeah, while it was volatile once, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade that for anything because I think that's why we're where we're at today. So it's funny. I remember, well, tell the story of when you first reconnected with Mallory in Nashville. So, I was one of Mallory's Miss America judges in 2010. We didn't know each other before. We didn't, but I knew you as Miss Kentucky.

Is that like a legal a abstract? Yeah, it's a legal. Oh, yeah. We did not know each other before Miss America. But I remember you from the Miss America pageant. You stick out like a sore thumb in a great way. I remember she literally skipped across the stage and I remember seeing you and you're like shorter. And I was like, oh, like me.

A lot shorter. But anyways, it was three years later. I just moved to Nashville. I had nothing to do except wait for Andrew to get out of practice in school. Post it in my entire dorm room. Yeah. I went to Michael because I thought I'd become this craft person, which I'm not. No, you're crafty.

I was looking for stuff in Michaels and I have this lady come up to me and she's like, excuse me, ma'am, do you sell tassels here? And I was like, I don't. And I like, as I'm turning to her, I'm like, I don't. And I was like, wait, Miss Kentucky? I didn't even know your name. And no joke, you were wearing a pink Miss America hat. The only time, like the glasses, the only time I've ever worn that hat.

Yeah. So fun. It's my sister's hat, actually. And you're like, Sean Johnson? And then what are you doing in Nashville? Why are you doing here? You're like, well, I'm making this Iowa thing out of these pieces of out of this. I'm going to put it on a wood board and then I'm putting up put strings from tack to tack.

Oh, you did make that though. I did. And you're like, why do you need tassels? Oh, I'm just hanging them on some antlers on my wall. If that isn't the picture of we need something to do, I don't know what is. Wait, the most had a name. Francis. Yeah, he's not on the wall anymore.

I distinctly remember, though, after that interaction, you tried to like tweet out. Mallory or something and that was when you were off taking care of yourself yeah I called Andrew as soon as I love Michaels again cheesy we've come closer I was like I think I just met my new best friend so you were right you were right we you know went separate ways for six months a year and then came back and we're inseparable literally ever since ran three miles at midnight I can still remember like the first day like we were inseparable to a point of we would eat lunch together, we would work out together, we'd go to the pool together,

we just were just the best of friends and just doing all kinds of things. I'm not going to lie back in that I was like sick of you. Yeah, okay, I'm going to go hang on now. Sean's like, you want to put post-it notes all over his walls? I'm like, yeah, let's put some tax in his bed too. Just kidding. I guess we've known each other for seven or eight years probably.

Isn't that funny? Like how quickly, time passes. It has been like eight years, seven or eight years. That's wild. I distinctly remember going to a Preds game. I think it was just us three, not you, Kyle. And there's a country musician playing. And you were, you literally turned to us. You're like, all right, should I date him or should I date Kyle? And I was like, date the country musician for sure. I ended up with you, Kyle. Yeah, sorry you were there, man. But that's all right. It all worked Yeah. It's so funny. Like all the, all the things that you go through in your own life, but all the things you go through in a relationship, like all the faces. And it's not even just the normal things. Like when you get married, this happens. When you have kids, this happens. Like, we had so much of a journey. I feel like before we even got engaged. It's so funny. Like, I can remember y'all living in that apartment. Like when you were still in college and you had just, you were off, you had done celebrity apprentice or something.

And like, Sean, you know, in the pool. Yeah, I know. We was swimming biker shorts for some reason. Never swam in biker shorts, but you were like, here, here's a pair of my. I was like, okay, I'm going to be sporty spice today. And, yeah, we had some good times. Yeah, we had some really good times. And now, look, a new phase of life, Shepard and Drew are downstairs playing together

and little bouncy things. That is not as well. It's insane. Is it funny? Okay, Kyle. So you own a Valley business. Yep. Married Mal.

I did you guys got into the influencer world yes you sold no I was just dissolved it yeah kind of phased out of it get my private events other companies and all that good stuff how did that affect the relationship going from ballet company to now working together so let me tiptoe on this um it's it's different being I guess starting my ballet company I started it in my childhood room. So I graduated college and went back to a little bit home for at least a year. And that's not really good for your dating life. Sounds about right for a UT grad. Don't be talking about my balls, Andrew. And so I ran it out of my parents' room,

kind of grew it to the point where about we had like 80 valets. And I really, I didn't have a business degree. It was kind of kind of a simple business parking cars. So it's kind of learning on the fly. But it became an amazing business. It was big. It was a big business. We did pretty good.

We, yeah, we, we did pretty good. And it was very, what people don't tell you about being an entrepreneur. And I feel like it's really glamorized now. It's not that fun. It's a lot of hard work. Like you are in a lot of. a lot of times it's lonely a lot of times it's stressful um so yeah that that was kind of my experience and there's a lot of good times as well i'll never forget the times we would all go to dinner

and you'd have to step out because you would get a call about some kid who was valet yeah drove a car off a cliff or something stressful yeah stressful and it's i remember you know mal and i'd get a call at three in the morning something happened we'd lose a set of keys and i'd go down and meet with the restaurant and get all that by this manager and like knowing now obviously i did not have a healthy work life balance which going back now i know how to kind of manage that and have the mental aspect to kind of set it aside but um so that kind of transitioned into my wife hiring me so uh i was like well now you know i'd love to help your business in any way shape or form i can i don't know what i can do let me learn how to edit videos and so while valet or work with the valet company i'd go and edit

mal's videos i guess and kind of learned how to do that um and mal you know worked really hard and was at a point to where she's like we'll come over full time so i'm like okay and i like it better in the sense of there's to me there's zero stress and everything you do is working for your wife well what kind of you're doing we're doing we're doing Pretty good. Yeah, we, there was that, there's that point to where you have to find that balance. It's like, okay. And to where I was trying to tell Mallory, this is what you need to do, this is what you need to do, this is what you need to do, this is what you need to do, to where I slowly learned, you know, in my business, nobody really handled me with white gloves.

I kind of had to learn for myself. So why am I trying to do the same to Mallory? And so that was kind of the light came on to me to where it's like, okay, instead. of me thinking my role is some kind of coach, maybe I just need to be a liaison and let her do her thing. If she wants advice, give it when she asked. And if I see a train wreck coming a mile away, maybe just let that train wreck happen. And then be there to be like, okay, well, maybe let's try this now at the end. So that was kind of a learning curve for me. But now we, I feel like we work well together.

We kind of know our roles. We definitely have, we had to figure out different roles. So he took on the video editing, just like he was talking about with himself and his ballet company. He taught himself, we started on like I-movie and then upgraded to Final Cut Pro and then like got better cameras and all this stuff.

And he would do a lot of the research about the equipment and different things and learned how to edit, learn the ends and out to YouTube, and that became his job. I can't even remember how to, to edit a video anymore because he just took that over and then he started answering business emails like he has very specific jobs and then I do my part but also like you know lately I feel like life is it's truly

the best of both worlds that we get like what an awesome thing we can run a business of this size out of our homes and be stay-at-home parents it's the best thing in the entire world the dream the ideal I think the goal of a lot of people but it's very hard to balance it out and manage it and it's this constant like do you get help do we do it on our own do we you know how do we do this to where we can be present parents but also like run our business well so I think that has been our latest kind of challenge and I think we're doing a pretty good job at it I mean I've turned down I've turned down enough brand deals to buy another car this month but it's it is what it is you have to choose your family sometimes go ahead and flex on them out I mean it's not true

And it's been better, you know? And it's not a traditional job per se. But it's, you know, 2020, the job market is not traditional now. So I think our biggest thing is going between running a daycare and making content. And it's just that juggling act where you're almost like, okay, we need an office so we can get out of the house. We don't have kids crying like, we seriously do a podcast. in an office with kids crying, dogs running in the house, the babysitter yelling for something,

and that's kind of the season we're in now. Yeah, I mean, we're sitting in our podcast studio, which is our guest bedroom. Yeah, I'm surprised we haven't been interrupted yet. I know. I keep listening for like screaming or. It's going right downstairs. Should we just chill up here for like?

Yeah, let's just hang out or something. I'm going to take a nap. Yeah. I feel like that's a fun part of it too. I mean, and that's what I was telling Mao, I like doing everything very streamlined. You don't need a huge office. You don't need a huge job. Let's run this out of our house, keep it as small as possible for as long as possible, and then kind of go from there.

That's what I learned from my valet company. I was hiring people, we need an office. And then two years later, it's like, oh, my God, I wasted so much money on an office. We didn't need an office. Yeah. You just kind of learn as you go, but, um, it's funny. Kyle, I don't know if you girls know this, but like the way it happens over here and it seems like same situation is Sean will be like, oh, I want to do this or like,

whatever. I want letters on the wall. And then that's it. And she leaves all the details and like figuring it out up to me. So Kyle and I have had several calls where he's like, hey, uh, so we're trying to do this. You got any idea? I'm like, no idea, no idea, man. We can figure it out.

Well, a lot of times you do have an idea. I've called Andrew a bunch of times for advice because he's kind of, you know, him and Sean have created just this massive brand. And we're sitting here now like with all this sit-up. It's, I don't know, y'all execute so well. You execute super well. And that's the biggest, I feel like that's the biggest part in this, in the influencer world is executing because everybody's got all these ideas.

And they're all great. But if you can't execute it and do it well and do it consistently, then you're going to be done in three or four years. Babe, you do an amazing job at that. You really do. And, you know, I mean, Sean already had a global brand before. So, A, to take on something that was already set and then to modernize it in literally every single way.

I mean, you crushed Instagram. Now, you're a very valuable asset. Like, you already know how I feel about you because I've been your close friend for several years. Clearly, I thank a lot of you. But you really do, I say it all the time, like you're a hugely valuable asset to this brand. I mean, obviously you're very smart because of all of your accolades and such, believe it or not. Geez, so back in Mallor and I first met, she was traveling to football games down in Starkfield, Mississippi while I was at Vandy.

Yep. I don't know if you knew this. Mallory asked me to marry her. Oh, yeah. You did. No, you did. I'll forever. I'll think you did.

I remember we started, we started our YouTube. channel you came in we had some studio set up you're like oh my gosh andrew this is so nice you know and just marry me and we can do it yeah that offer still open Andrew this setup looks really awesome he's a great he will he's a great girl dad I got a feeling yeah I don't know yeah yeah that's all I'm about that this offer better not be open any of your other podcast yes um i sorry i was going to say in the timeline of your you've been on an amazing race twice three times my bad miss america done other tv shows yeah a bunch of random thing when you guys first met was that after the miss america and all that stuff um so yes so i did miss america in

2010 and um we always go back and forth i think we met in 2013 really i think we met in 2013 oh god I need to do a timeline because I get confused on all of these things. It's like life just years passed so quickly and you forget. But I think it was 2013. So I did a third season of Amazing Race when we were together. And like another random show. And he was really like ramped up in the valet business. And it's funny because we've kind of had, we've had so many different work type relationships.

Like him owning a big business and me really struggling to find what's next. for me, struggling to like find my worth in the job market and in what I really wanted to do. I was super unfulfilled in what I was doing and nothing was consistent. And he's running this huge business. And it was very stressful, like he says at times, it calls in the middle of the night. I mean, he was very committed to that. And then now, then we kind of transitioned. And that's one of the reasons he didn't just sell his company because we were back to it.

Let's do it. I'm sure there for a while. So he would just make it a little smaller, make it a little smaller because it was really big. And then he got to the point where he was just doing private events and stuff. And my business kept growing. And then now it's really, you know, our business is what it is now. And he, I call it our business because it, even though like I'm the face of a lot of it. Thank goodness.

It really like only runs with both of us. So and people, it's so funny because like I remember when I first started doing like the, especially like Instagram story. and YouTube and I would like turn the camera on Kyle and he'd be like oh what did you ask me again yeah there was a learning curve there wasn't that bad your Instagram has made my fared account to follow thank you Sean all the time thank you I die laughing at everything you post I appreciate that yeah if you are following Kyle go follow Kyle he has a funny Instagram took me a little while to get comfortable on camera yeah but now

he's like everyone that follows me now follows him not because he's my husband but because they really like his account and they see who I see that Kyle is and that's it's a cool thing you know it's really I am curious with this dynamic because it's something we ask a lot of people we have on the show because it's similar dynamic but you work from home your parents from home your husband and wife from home how do you separate all of it we you know that I feel like when you work together like y'all and us that's an ongoing game to set boundaries on work when you can turn it off and be like look I'm just dad right now no more no less he's really good at that actually yeah and I've just learned from not having that like being really bad and not

turning it off um not turning it off for years and I feel like mal and I when worse comes the worst we are such good friends we always have that to fall back on yeah um and we're very lucky to have that and so uh we've tried things like okay seven o'clock works over every night and then a week later something pops up at eight o'clock that you've got to do so it's just I think being aware of it and I feel like at night when the kids are in bed we always watch a little TV now and just kind of zone out and watch some of our shows and that's uh I know we both look at forward to that but it's just kind of taking some time and being able to turn it off and I talk about work going on a date here or there yeah but it's it's a challenge it's hard and we have like

we really have a lot of fun in our house with our children like it is stressful and hard but like we make up songs all day we sing and dance we take nature walks we our day it's funny because we're running a big business out of our house but then we're on a nature walk picking a flower out of a neighbor's yard trespassing we just it's uh and we also have to step back a lot of times and remember that like so many times even when you get the things that you want you can just fall into the the stress of things or the forgetting that like that's what you wanted in the first place and I always say and I say it on my podcast a lot and it always resonates with people like don't let your blessings become your burdens and I think a lot of people do that with the work

that they do or their children like you want these things for so long their amazing spouse, and if you can't control that, if you can't step back when you're feeling a lot of stress and anxiety and you're kind of in a tornado from day to day, then it's all wasted, I feel like. And there are times where we get kind of in the craziness of things and we forget that, but Kyle and I are really good at stepping back and being like, this is awesome. Yeah. And I think too, a lot of goes to self-awareness and kind of knowing yourself. when you know you're getting kind of burnt out or you're tired or stress knowing, okay, I need, I need some time to myself.

And I think that's important too because unless you're aware when you know you need that, it's just going to, it'll be too late. Yeah. And then bam, like a little rupture or fight or something will happen. It's like, hold on. I can kind of sense myself going here. It's like, baby, I'm going to see a movie tonight for about three hours. Don't call me.

Don't talk to me. I need three hours. She's like, okay, cool. See in a little bit. So things like that kind of help. Yeah. And as your children get older, too, like, so we've got children in our house now. Now I'm not thinking of how do we balance it out with Kyle and I?

How do I get this work done? Now I'm thinking, how is this child seeing me do this? How is this child seeing an argument that we just had? How is it affecting him? Our oldest little boy will be two in like a month. And that's something that I'm thinking about now. And that kind of brings in something that I always think about. You know, you have different things that work in different phases of your life.

And a lot of people, I think, they try and something worked for them five years ago in their relationship or 10 years ago or something worked for them when they didn't have kids. You've constantly got to evolve that type of stuff. So now that I'm thinking about that, it's so funny I did on my podcast yesterday. I had a guy named Miles Adcox and he runs on site, which is a local. it's just he's big in the field of emotional wellness and he's got a young child and he talks about how like when he and his wife argue like he gets on his knees in front of his child and Colin actually don't argue a lot so but but when we do it's okay for kids to see that it's not we're not like a screaming yelling fight we're like why don't you do the dishes today dang it Kyle

why don't you do that laundry Kyle full my underwear different Kyle No, I'm just kidding. You know, stuff like that. I was like, yeah. No, I'm just joking. But it's, you know, it's, he says he gets on his knees in front of his child and he says, that was not about you, just so you know. And they have this little feelings chart toward the child, like when he's feeling a certain way

or like he's around something that's going on. He stands on the happy feeling or he stands on the sad feeling and teaching like emotional intelligence and well-being to your children, it's a whole, it's a whole thing. And it's a thing that I think about a lot now when I'm trying to balance out life and work and a relationship and everything else. And at the end of the day, like Kyle said, we are truly, we have a deep friendship. Like, we really have fun together. We, we laugh all day long, constantly. Anytime I feel like I'm off, Kyle, well, he's kind of, I think, making fun of Tony Robbins. I I'm like, I think Tony Robbins is, is awesome and all of his, but literally, Kyle is like, change your state, change his state.

Now, listen, I like, let me, I like Tony Robbins. Tony Robbins is awesome. But, yeah, he's so good at, like, getting me out of a stressed state or an overwhelmed state. That tends to be, whenever I get off, it's overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed with something. And same with him. I know he's burnt out from something that he's doing. I know he needs time.

He needs to go grab a dinner or he needs to go to the movies or whatever it is that he does. And invite me sometime, bro. I want to go to see a movie. Oh, he will go. You had boys like you last night. I know. I'm kidding. Yeah. Uh-oh.

You've mentioned your podcast a couple of times. I want you to talk about the living fully mantra that has now become your brand to a large extent. Um, yeah. Go for it. So I've been birthed to this, I've been birthed in a lot of things in the last few years. But yeah, the living fully, the live fully brand was kind of born out of my own journey with life and my own struggles. I achieved a lot of my ultimate goals at a really young age. I was in my early 20s and I kind of got to the top of the mountain and I was like, what the heck?

Like I don't feel right. I felt very empty and scattered. and here I was with everything that I had wanted at that time of my life, and I just didn't feel like my life was full. And then a journey began where, you know, there were a lot of other things at play for me, but a lot of things shifted in my life. And I realized, oh, my gosh, I think so many people are living like I was.

Like, is this all that there is? Just a rat race of day-to-day pleasing other people, you know, not having deep relationships, brushing things under the rug, numbing out with anything that I can numb out with. And I changed my life in such a drastic way. And I didn't even like know that that was on the other side. And so I did that in my own life and I started this Instagram account and YouTube channel and all that. And I was shown beauty and fashion and all this lifestyle content. And then I started just talking about real life and things that I had gone through. And it was like a wildfire. I would get so many more messages and direct messages and

oh my gosh, I had no idea. You felt like this. This is how I feel. And I realized that that was the thing that people were hungry for and wanting. And I know a lot of people are, I feel like therapy and wellness and emotional intelligence. It's all kind of a buzz thing right now. And I'm happy to see the culture move in that direction. But I mean, the live fully brand for me, it really it came from my own journey. I have a totally different, I've lived so totally different lives, two totally different lives. And that's what I kind of talk about on the podcast. I have different guests on,

whether they be a person that's in the space of emotional wellness or whether they be an author that I really like or someone that talks about, you know, manifesting your best life or someone, like my dad who's climbed Mount Everest multiple times and all these mountains at 60-something years old talking just to people that are truly living their lives in a really big way.

And yeah, it's my passion project and it's Kyle really pushed me in this direction too. Kyle is truly my biggest supporter. I always thought my whole life like, oh yeah, my parents, they'll always be my number one supporters. And then you get married and you realize when you can have your spouse support you

like he supports me, I mean, there's nothing greater than that in the whole world. Like he's always like, no one will believe in you like as much as I believe in you. No one will ever be a bigger fan of you than me. and I know that he means that. And whenever I forget a lot of things or whenever I feel like my journey's going just kind of wonky,

he's always, like, strong and steady for me. And that's really great in my life, too. That keeps my life super full. Okay. Mallory's over here preaching, man. Yeah, amen. I can ask the question. Do the thing.

You ready? You ready for the question we ask? Yes. Okay. Who do we start with? Kyle. Kyle, Kyle, you have to go first. What's your biggest pet peeve of Mallory?

Oh, man. I wish you would have thought these before. My biggest pet peeve of Mallory. Um. Oh, let me think. So. Try not to throw my wife under the bus on your podcast. Safe space.

Safe space. So my biggest pet peeve. would be when Mallory asked me to do a certain task and then while I'm doing that task she asked me to do two more tasks inside that one task it's like now hold on let me finish what you asked me to do first thank you and then throw those other two at me when I'm done with this batching that's my that's what Andrew calls batching batching yes yeah let me finish one thing before I never finish anything oh my god we that's that's what I was about to say it's Because I can do six things at once because I think we're wired like that, you know?

Hey, fair pet beep, fair pet beef. Okay, Mallory. The Conjuring Last Rites, only on the theater September 5th. What's your biggest pet peeve-to-Cow? Oh, Lord, have mercy. Choose your words wisely. I've heard laundry, dishes so far. This is just the beginning.

I'm pretty good at those. Yeah. You know, it's probably a good thing in the end of the day, and it's great that he can, like, slow things down. But he sometimes moves. super slow and peacefully when we need to go really fast. So like for instance, like I'm with a bassinet and I've got two diaper bags on my shoulders and I'm trying to walk and he's just sauntering through the hallway with his keys and a smart cup in his hand.

He's just, it's just a peaceful day in the neighborhood for Kyle. And I know we'll arrive at the same destination, but I'm just like, chop, chop. I'm just not going to join the panic and frenzy. That's so good. Yeah, it's so good. I've moved 100 miles like I've been like that for years and I finally decided I'm done doing that. Okay. There's part two to this question.

Well, wait, I have one more pet peeve though, but this is. Hold on. They just asked for one now. My God. This is one of my pet peeves for everyone. When people won't try a food, when I'm like, hey, try this and he's like, I'm good. And it's like a personal thing for me. I'm like, but it's really good and I like it and I think you're going to like it.

That's my mom to a tee. And I'm like, just try it. Just try it. Why don't you try? Okay, part two. Kyle, what do you love the most about Mallory? What do I love? I love, when my wife wakes up, it reminds me of Ford, our oldest son.

She is so excited and so full of joy for the day. she wakes up with excitement and i love that um that's something that i truly love about her and um that's really sweet okay mao that's really sweet she's very she's very funny like she got her and i kind of have a little bit of dark sense of human and we uh i really love that about her that's really sweet cow he loves your sick twisted never heard of the dark side that's really sweet um okay now my turn what you love my specie so I think that a lot of people when they get married

or like before they have a child everybody doesn't get married before they have a child these days so it's like before they have a child you never know what type of parent you think like oh they'll be a good parent or maybe they'll have some learning to do but you never truly know what type of parent they're gonna be and I'm not just saying this because he's my husband because this is like separate from me I have never seen a better parent than Kyle I've I've never seen you know we have two little boys and I I I gosh I know what makes me cry and I've really never I've never seen I've

truly never seen a parent like Kyle as he is so present and patient and he is truly like vibrant as a parent and it's something that I've just never I've never seen it before and it's something that I'm like so grateful for and it makes me I'm I knew he would be a great husband but I just I didn't know that you would be this kind of dad and that's the best thing in the world so yeah that and he brings me down from like a hurricane almost every day He really is like my grounding force in so many things that I do. And I don't think that my brand or my business or anything would be where it is today if it weren't for him. So, yeah.

I mean, that was quite a compliment. It's so cool. Having known you for each for like five years, probably at least, you've inspired me and my parenting. I'll never forget. That was like the first birth. that I was at was Ford's and seeing you get rolled out of the room and you're right there and there's 20 people in the room but nothing else mattered besides you three right there was like I'll never forget that moment just because it was so beautiful and I was like oh my gosh that's all

they care about is that little new human so thank you for that sweet and then it's also cool what you what you guys have done in turning all the trials and tribulations you've both been through, you just speak about it. You've been so thoughtful through it all. And it's like, yeah, you've made mistakes, but you've been thoughtful through it all. And now sharing those experiences has impacted so many lives. And I'm just, I don't want to say proud because that doesn't mean much, but it's, it's inspiring to me.

Well, thank you. Yeah. That means a lot. Okay, so this is your chance to pimp yourself out. Tell everyone what's coming up, where they can find you, what you're excited about. Okay, we both have all of the social medias that are just our name. That's a sore subject, though, because I have not changed my last name. You didn't get me started.

I mean, we did just meet MetaWorld Peace. You took his wife's name. Wait, you officially haven't changed your name? I have not, no. So Kyle. So Kyle's is Kyle to meet. Miola and mine's Valerie Irvin. It's funny, everywhere we go, like, on a reservation or something,

you always like, Mr. Irvin, can we get your bags? I'm like, no, no, Mr. Demiola. Yes, thank you. So hopefully maybe for my birthday. Oh, gosh. He always is trying to do that. I'm like, I don't want her to change her name on anything out there. That would be stupid.

That's a horrible business decision. I'm just asking, let's go down to the courthouse. And change your name. Maybe just, you know, we're kind of committed to each other now, especially with the kids and all. So maybe it's time. So I'm still holding out on that. We'll see.

So right now currently, Mallory Irvin, M-A-L-L-L-R-Y-E-R-V-I-N, Kyle Demiola, K-Y-D-I-M-E-O-L-A, underscore underscore not Mallory. No, just kidding. My podcast is living fully with Mallory Urban. You can look it up on any platform. Our YouTube channel is just my name. Mallory Urban, we do a lot of vlogs and just lifestyle type stuff.

And then what's coming out and? And then I have a book coming out next year. Yeah, at the end of the year. And I'm really excited. One of the most amazing stories you'll ever hear. I won't, it's not my story to share, but I just am so excited for you. That's really sweet.

Thanks, Sean. That means a lot coming from you. So that. And I have, you know, website with a lot of different lifestyle content, motivational content. And we've kind of got our irons and every fire that we can have them in just like you guys. So it's just really cool that you can kind of make a business out of this type of thing. So yeah, literally YouTube, podcast, website, socials. We've kind of got it all. Anything. Oh, we've got a merchandise line

too that we do flash sales about three or four times a year. And did I miss anything? I think that's about it. If I were listening, I would go, I would recommend to go start with their Instagram. It's a great. Their Instagrams are amazing. You'll be endlessly entertained. And we'll link that down below. But Mallory, Kyle, thank you for your time. You guys. Thanks for always a pleasure. Thanks are finally being on guys. Yeah, of course. Our children are, you know, just still down there. Well, Ford's on the bulldoze, right? Yeah. He's good. That was great. Cool. Awesome. Man, this setup, it's so nice. You know,

Yeah.