Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 168 | GETTING ENGAGED with Jeanine Amapola and Kaleb

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

Today we interviewed YouTube sensation Jeanine Amapola and her NEW FIANCE, Kaleb Ward. We talked all about their exciting new engagement, how they knew they wanted to get married and also why they broke up. We officially consider Jeanine and Kaleb new friends! We loved talking to this couple! Love you guys! Shawn & Andrew Instagram Jeanine: https://www.instagram.com/jeanineamapola/?hl=en Kaleb: https://www.instagram.com/kalebward_/?hl=en Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrcYxVSkBgg9szDSwwZaNwg Podcast: Happy and Healthy - 123 episodes https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-healthy-with-jeanine-amapola/id1515971195 https://www.instagram.com/happyandhealthypodcast/?hl=en Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/AndrewDEast: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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how to get your manliness back and like use the pain to move forward probably some andrew tate in there too unfortunately definitely some Andrew tate what's up everybody welcome back to a couple thing with Sean and Andrew a podcast all about couples and the things they go through today is a fun one really excited we haven't seen Janine in so long we get to interview Janine and her new fiancee Caleb this was really fun they are fresh off getting engaged we're talking days away from getting engaged so to be able to relive their experience they did a whole episode on their show happy and healthy so listen to that if you want all the details but they give us um I just had some questions because I love when people tell their

story and it makes you think about your story of getting engaged. Yes. And so we did that. And then we also talk about how they knew that they were supposed to get married. We talked about their breakup that happened before they got engaged. Which I thought was very, very relatable. Being a girl, I just like, I went through that with you and how she explains what was going to her mind and why she broke up with Caleb and all these things.

I thought was really, really helpful. And we also talk about why they wanted to get married, like why. Why I do marriage instead of just be together forever. So thank you, Janine and Caleb. Congratulations to you, too. And if you want to find out more about Janine and what she's up to, we'll link her podcast and social handles down below. But I hope you enjoy this one with Janine and Caleb. You guys freaking just got engaged.

So congrats. My gosh. Oh, my gosh. It looks like you're getting ready for an engagement photo shoot right now. You're in white. You have a crisp background. It's just a normal day, you know. It looks like face filters are just like the skin quality is perfect.

Caleb's teeth are the whitest I've ever seen any teeth. Have you seen teeth that white in your life? No. I've never seen that. Is anyone hers? He has pretty white teeth, yeah, I'd say. Is that not a compliment? You get a lot, because if it's not, I'm surprised.

My phobia growing up was, like, having yellow teeth. My dad would brush them, like, four times a day. And so I just, I brush for, like, two minutes, and I put, like, two strands of toothpaste on. Two strands of two face on. Two strands? Twice a recommended. You might be ODing on fluoride, but it's okay. It's okay. Y'all look so tan. Were you guys at the beach or something? We were in Greece for a week.

What? Yeah. All right, we'll just roll into this episode because it's always like talking to an old friend when we speak with you, Janine. And Caleb, great to meet you. I want to start. Janine, let's just see the ring. Can you mind? Just giving us a close-up. I don't. I don't. I think. I didn't Caleb did mine either. Can you guys see it? It's beautiful. What do you mean?

It's blinding, Janine. It's wild. He did such a good job. I'm so proud of him. Oh, my God. Okay, Caleb. I'm going to get back to work soon so I can... I feel like...

Bank of America. Yeah. So, Caleb, I feel like you're one of our first, like, recent fiancés that we've interviewed. And I'm curious, how did you feel like the week leading up? to it and like the day up so much stress because just the amount of coordinating between mad because i went into it with like mattie helping me plan it and i had an idea and she was

like we're going to quadruple that idea and to something bigger and so just like all the little pieces leading up the weather and everyone was having flight issues and so it was just like i told all my buddies i said this is not the weak to test me like the day out i was like don't mess with some of them were trying don't make fun of me but it was good you hit record on there actually just they get back up audio the green button thank you i kind of like i like planning i like you know creating memories and so it doesn't stress me out too much kind of different yeah stress like i get so stressed out planning anything so he thrives on that had you ever been more nervous for anything in your life oh no i was like my heart was just like racing i was only

thinking about like oh my gosh what if i have a stroke you know and i knew i was like being recorded so i was like don't sound like an idiot and then honestly like in the moment it's like the lord gave me the words to speak it was just like i kind of forgot everyone else was there and it was legit the best day of my life oh same it really was same jane did you know it was coming um i had a suspicion because I kept thinking I'm like if it would be any weekend it would be this weekend and I was hoping it would be this weekend or that that weekend because it's always been a dream of mine to be proposed to on the beach and I haven't really said this but should I tell the prophecy? Yes. What do you mean? Okay, I don't know if you guys are big prophecy people, but I had someone prophesy over me back in 2020.

I wasn't even, you know, I was single at this time. I didn't even know Caleb existed. Like April 2020, this girl was like, hey, I don't know why I got this dream of you. You were being proposed to on the beach. And the guy had like light brownish hair. And she like even sent a picture of like what his hair kind of looked like the style. It kind of looked like that.

They said he had a receding hairline? No. Like he's going to have a slight receding hair. No, she didn't say that. But I mean, but I never said to Maddie or, Caleb, like, proposed to me on the beach. I wanted it to be very organic. But I just kept thinking on like, there's no better weekend to be engaged in this one. So it all worked out great. But I did have a little bit of a feeling. I honestly felt like there was something different in my spirit that

day. My girlfriends were acting really weird. He was texting funky. I thought it was going to be Saturday, but he proposed to me on a Friday. But then in the afternoon, I was like, oh, it's happening. I was like, this is going down. And I was ready. I got my makeup. I was like curling my hair using my cute white dress I'm like I'm ready so I mean it's pretty fresh how many days ago are we talking that are you engaged now today last week wow is it Friday oh yeah we're a week we're a week engaged that's crazy yeah so I already got the phone call that I need to help more with the wedding planning already yeah yeah I got that phone call I was like do we need to rewind last week yeah I think I bought magazines the same day and I was like okay I need to do this

and this yeah yeah yep I get it. Watch your podcast that you walked through the whole engagement story, loved it. But I am curious. So the dichotomy of emotions, I feel like between the proposer and the proposey, like when I proposed a Sean, that whole day I was a wreck, dude. I had never been that nervous. I was trying to dial in the logistics.

You're worried about everything going smooth. And the girl just shows up and it's a good time. But I'm curious if you could both bring us back to that moment of one, Kayla, I'm curious, when you dropped down on the knee, like, what did you say? And, like, did it go as you planned? And then, Janine, when you heard those words, what'd you feel? Yeah. So waking up that morning, I didn't have a car.

Our car situation got messed up. It was pouring rain. It was 50-mile-an-hour winds. It was cold outside. Like, everything was just, like, not looking well. And then I didn't even know what I was going to say. So, like, all my buddies were like, what do you? going to say i'm like i'll figure that you know figure that part out and like going into the drive i

like threw my AirPods in and i just was like i got into the word a little bit wrote a little letter and i'm more of like i i don't like to i don't like things to be robotic i like things to be organic and natural and i had like i was like in the car i was writing about our relationships and like my promises to her of like what i will keep as her husband and all the things tell us And yeah. So like I just totally like, you know, I promise that like my heart's ignited for you like right now like in this season. But I promise that 10 years from now, like I will choose to like ignite that in my heart. Like it's a it's like it's easy for me right now to wake up and love her every single day. But I know there's going to be moments within a relationship that it's going to have to be a choice. And I've seen so many men, you know, stop choosing to ignite. that flame like you know in their heart and so and then towards the end of the letter i just got like a picture you know what's funny about where i proposed at in florida that's where i grew up going to vacation as a kid and i just was like looking out the window and i was like man this would be so

great i could like picture like our family like coming to florida together in the summers and you know creating these memories and i just got like overwhelmed like i literally felt like this like pressure on my shoulders in the car i've just like every being in my body was just like felt like the presence of god and like chills and I was like okay I know what I'm going to say and so when I got down when I got heard of the spot to where I was proposing I I just I just knew what I knew like all the nerves just kind of went away and I'm like looking across like I'm my best friend and I'm like I can't believe like I'm sitting here right now like I've dreamed of this moment my whole life I never thought

actually come and yeah it just was everything i could have thought of you know and more and i started to like cry like literally as like i'm if you if you watch the video i get on it when i hit the knee i legit didn't say will you marry me for like he like choked up it was so cute i couldn't talk yeah yeah he like choked it for a second i'm like waiting for it i'm like yeah there's a part that's like i don't know if you want me to say this but there's actually a part where it's cut out in the video where she goes okay stand up He was, like, crying, but I was, like, stand up so I can kiss you. And I, like, I was like, stand because I was so excited.

And I wanted to hug him, but he was, like, having a moment of, like, tearing up. But it was. Would you describe your emotions as, like, were you feeling nervous or, like, what, what's your experience, Janine? For you, yeah. I wasn't nervous. It was, like, it was more like an excitement nervous. Like, it was kind of like, you know, you get that, like, nervous pee before you perform. or something or maybe before you know you go and do gymnastics or you play football like there's like

that nervous pee feeling um as we're walking to yeah well when i'm going to propose i'm walking to the spot and she texted mattie texted the photographer was photographer and was like jinny has to pee because i was literally so nervous i went in the bathroom and had a moment with myself i looked in the mirror and i was like i was like okay that was a long i was like i know this is happening and I was in there for a minute where Riley starts knocking on there. She's like, Jay. And I'm like, yes, because I had a feeling it was coming. And, but it wasn't like I was anxious.

I wasn't scared. I was just like, okay, like, this is a moment you pray for and wait for your entire life. And it was so weird knowing that it was like actually happening to me. But when I got there and when I was with him, I was just so excited and I was like crying the second I saw him. But it's such a surreal moment because, I mean, Lord willing, you only, you only, have that moment happen once where a man gets down on a knee and proposes to you so you know i'm 29 years old and all my friends have gotten engaged and married before me pretty much and um he gets

down on one knee and i just like i couldn't even comprehend the feeling of like oh this is like actually happening and in the proposal video you know you hear me say this isn't real this isn't real three or two times because i couldn't believe it i was like this isn't real like this isn't happening to me and him getting down on one knee. It was like I can just, I like locked the moment in my brain because I was like, oh my gosh. So it was so amazing. Janine, I remember how many years ago did we meet? I was trying to figure this out. Five? Maybe back in six or five years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Something that I love about you and I distinctly remember from like getting to know you five, six years ago was because Andrew and I were married at that time and we would talk about boyfriends and we would talk about like your future and I remember even back then you were so guarded

like you were such a strong person you were like I am not settling for someone like I know he's out there I know I'm going to find this man I think we threw some suggestions your way you're like no you're like no you're just like you try one of your friends and I was like yeah but you were so strong-minded which I absolutely love and I'm just

curious like full circle moment you're engaged what was it about Caleb where you were like this is him like this is my man my husband for the rest of my life uh first one thanks for saying that that's so crazy yeah I don't know exactly remember where I was at that time of my life when I met y'all I'm pretty sure I had just gone through a breakup so I was all fired up like I will not settle but um he honestly it was the way that he pursued me because you know i think a lot of guys in the beginning they're really excited they're like you know i'm going to pursue i'm going to love you month two month three rolls around and you notice a shift you notice that they pull away they don't try as hard they promise all these things to you and they don't fulfill them and he just

consistently pursued he consistently loved me the way he led me the way he prayed for me he wrote me letters i mean a lot of guys like in the beginning yeah they would write these letters and they would do all these romantic things and then after the end i was like you said you would take me on this date or you said you would do this and then they just wouldn't anymore and so i noticed there was a difference in the way that he loved me i generally always tell people i'm like the way he loves me is the way that jesus loves me it's like a relentless pursuit it's um unconditional it it's like even when i would be like i can't do this this is too much i'm scared because because I wasn't used to this type of love.

I would try to run away. He would be just like this safety blanket of like, hey, I still love you. Hey, I'm still here for you. Hey, I'm not going anywhere. And I'm like, why? I'm like, you can go. Like, you're freaking me out with this kind of love.

He was so, like, consistent. You put me through it. I kind of put him through it because I was not used to that. But I think it's because the Lord wired him for me to love me the way that I've always dreamt of being loved, but I wasn't used to that. And so, A, I knew on the first date I was going to marry him, but there was still some challenges in between. Like, there was some things I needed to overcome from just my own past and things that I've gone through. But him being willing to be consistent and faithful and show up and back up the words that he was saying.

It's like, you want a man that's going to back up the words that he's saying. A lot of guys say a lot of things and they don't back it up. And also we just, I was like, man, we have so much fun with each other. And I couldn't help but, like, remember that. like we actually broke up in between for like literally two weeks and um why it was like 11 or 12 days i freaked out he said what why yeah i full-fledged freaked out i was like i can't do this yet i this is too much i kind of broke his heart for a bit i'm so sorry i don't know where too i was like what really are you sure yeah i had that conversation go what'd you say to him jeanee

what did i say yeah you were like i can't i'm done get out I just said, I said, honestly, I don't think this is a forever goodbye. Can I tell a story? Yeah. It's actually kind of funny. So I just went to Maddie and Grant's wedding, and I'm on, like, Cloud 9. I'm like, it's amazing. I met all the friends.

And it's like, it's Halloween. I'm making us dinner. And I'm just like, I could feel it like in my spirit of like something was off. So I was like kind of like over dinner. It was like, what's wrong with? What's happening? like what are you what are you feeling right now you're talking to me different you've seen a little cold and uh and uh and uh we sat over dinner and it like hit me i was like oh i'm about to

get broken up with and so it actually ended that night with i need time to think about it you know and so she waited a week and then we met didn't talk for that week no we took a couple days apart I wrote her an eight-page letter. It was insane. Actually, it was nine pages. I went to work the next day, and I grabbed a pen and paper, and I was like, I was so mad. And I just, like, just didn't stop writing. My man went to work on that page.

And I dropped it in her mailbox, and I was like, she's going to think I'm weird. I don't care. I was like, she can, you know, have that to, like, know that I wrote an eight-page letter. And, and, like, it honestly, like, removed my, I was so annoyed and upset. But after I wrote it, I was like, okay. I'm good like whatever happens God's plan and so we met that next Saturday at the lake here and it was the best breakup I had him out it was so fun we hung out afterwards she almost she tried to kiss me I did not yes you did I did she tried to kiss me our faces got really close and we were like

are we about to kiss and then I were like okay no we should it we should we did it though just for you know people went I left and I was like that was weird but okay and I thought we were done. I thought I would never probably see her again. I was like, I was about to catch the next. I knew I was going to see you again. He said, are you sure you want to do this?

And I said, actually, no, I'm not. And he's like, why are you doing this? And I was like, because I feel like I'm supposed to. Like, I genuinely feel like the Lord asked me to lay it down. And I needed time to be alone with the Lord. And I fasted, I prayed. I waited to hear from the Lord again. And then when I did, I was like, okay, I'm reaching back out.

But the story gets funnier. I know we didn't talk about our breakup. But the next, the next weekend, My cousins came into town. I took him to our first date spot where we went to dinner our first day. And we had the same waiter that we had in our first date. Fernando. Puerto Rico.

Oh, my bad. I'm going. In his, oh, Puerto Rico. I went to, I went to pay for the food. And I'm like going through my credit cards. And it's her credit card in my wallet and her ID. And I'm like, and I lost that for a while. I'm like, what the heck?

Like two minutes before that. she comments on my Instagram story because I'm wearing the shoes she bought me for my birthday and she says nice shoes with a winky face and I'm like how dare you comment on my Instagram story after you broke my heart and now I just found your credit card and license and so I reached back out the next day I was like yo I had your credit card on license and she was like actually can we talk and then yeah I only I only winked like winked like winked him because I knew I was about to reach back out otherwise I wouldn't have done that the old winky face drew a little I remember the winky face.

It goes a long way. All right. So I want to talk about a couple things. One, are you guys big on like looking at signs like you finding your license after she comments on your Instagram posts? So yes and no. I think you could take it too far. But I just thought it was funny because I was so mad.

I told her when we broke up, I said, don't confuse me. If you want to talk to me, just call me and we can talk about getting back together. But like if not, please. Please respect me enough to, like, not confuse me. And so when she did that, I was kind of annoyed. But then I found her license and her credit card and, like, immediately softened my heart.

And I was like, huh? And then that night, I actually had a dream that we got back together. And I was in her living room. And your mom had a dream that night. We got back together. Wow. And I had a dream a day before that we got back together. Yeah.

So I wrote down like seven things. that I wanted her to say if we didn't get back together and like she hit everything and so you're pretty beat up by it Caleb you know I was really mad the first week but after I don't want to be with somebody who doesn't want to be with me I think ultimately I so I was like I'm hurt but I'm also you know life is good we'll move on we'll use this I was watching a lot of like jocco and David Goggins I was YouTube like how to how to get your manliness back and like lose the pain to move forward.

Probably some Andrew Tate in there too unfortunately. There was definitely some Andrew Tate probably moments. So yeah, but once you wanted to get back together I was like, sure. He's like, she wants me.

It's a broad question and a vague question, but I'm curious. Why get engaged and why get married? That's a good one. let me answer first we just feel ready we felt like the Lord had showed us so much and had spoken into us and we both just feel like now is the time we're kind of like we don't really need to see anything else of course you could always find out more but we feel ready for the next season I have prepared

as much as I can with counseling Christian counseling I've read every single marriage dating book possible we've met with mentors We've talked about all the hard things. We've been through hard things. And ultimately, I really do feel like there's something in our relationship that God is going to amplify with us being together than us being apart. And I think he is a big missing piece. Not that I'm incomplete without him, but I do feel like he's a big missing piece of my ministry.

I feel like the Lord wants to use us to do something together. And I think we have a general idea of what that is, but we don't know quite yet. and there's things that he's teaching me and the Lord's taught me within this season and this relationship that has grown me so, so much. So I see God using our relationship to better each other and to advance the kingdom. And ultimately, like, that's what marriage is for and what we believe is that, you know, like don't get married just to have sex. Don't get married just because you're in love. It's like it has to be greater than you. And we believe that the Lord is going to use our relationship for something bigger than us and for the kingdom.

So you mentioned Caleb imitated how Jesus might love you. And I think, like, I'm so excited sitting here looking at you guys just engaged. I don't know when the wedding's going to be, but I'm excited to go to it, Sean. Y'all are right. And then, like, we're seven years into this thing, so not that far. But I've already, it's so, so amazing to look at the effect that, Sean has had on me and hopefully vice versa and then when you start bringing kids into the picture like it's just a different type of love but it all really sheds a lot of light and brings

a deeper understanding of this like biblical Jesus you know heavenly love it's like dude when when you're seven years in to a marriage and your wife you know hurt you deeply it's like what do you do? Like is it a covenant love that sticks you around or it's just beautiful and it's cool and it hurts a lot of times but I love it. I think marriage is the coolest thing. Have you guys read The Meaning of Marriage by Tim Keller? I already finished it.

It's so good. Andrew gave me that book. We grabbed that book, babe. Have you read this book? I actually was just talking about this on my podcast. The Sacred Search by Gary Thomas. Wow. I've heard about it.

Oh my gosh. You recommend this to every single one of your listeners, especially the ones that are single because this changes. It says, what if it's not about who you marry, but why? And it gives a greater purpose to marriage. This book is incredible.

Well, and I think that's what I was alluding to when I asked you like the marriage question is I love that you guys are pursuing marriage. I feel like we've talked to so many people who are like, I don't need to get married to know that I love my person. And I will spend the rest of my life with them. and yeah it's like this new age concept of i don't need a piece of paper to tell you i love you and it's missing the point and we talked to so many people who it's like a generational thing right now

that i think is very very toxic but people believing that if their marriage or their relationship isn't easy then it's not supposed to be like then they should break up and move on and kind of like you saying there it's not about the person it's about the why if you can remember that through a marriage, it will change everything because like Caleb said, in 10 years, you're going to go through a hard time where you wake up one day and you're like, I don't really like you today. But you know what? I love you so much and we're going to figure this out. Oh, boy's not always going to love you like Jesus will and, you know, vice versa. I hate to say it. But to answer your question on what I think we should, you know, engagement in

marriage. You know, as a kid, my mom always told me, like, you want to marry someone where where you wake up at three in the morning and you walk down the stairs and you see your wife, you know, reading scripture over your kids and praying over your kids because they woke up in the middle of the night. And because that was like a glimpse of like what I got from my mom. And so there's so many qualities in her that I saw from my mom, the loving and she challenges me. She challenges me so much to where it's like, all right, you know.

You can stop now. and I think I've just been under the mindset of like we are in a generation where you guys are correct like we're getting married older we're having men are becoming more passive and I just think that like life's an adventure it's like choose who you want to do that adventure with that life is hard choose who you want to do life hard with you have like a it's like us together are going to be more powerful we're going to be more strong um if we keep the Lord first, but we also keep our healthy relationship first, and we can just do more. And I just view marriage as such a gift and a blessing and having children.

Like, that's why I'm younger, but I've always had the idea of being young. Like, I'm going to get married young. I'm going to have kids young. That's just, that's just. And you will. How old are both of you? I'm 29 and he's 24. 24 and a half.

24 and a half. He's 25 in October. Nice. We're four and a half years apart, which is also, yeah. Pretty crazy, big part of our story. Yeah. But it worked. This episode is brought to you by Defender.

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So you guys have been together for how long? A little over 11 months Yeah, almost a whole year Yeah, but I like Minus the 10 days Yeah So yeah You did what in 2020

He had known about me Since 2020 So he liked me for how long A good couple years Yeah Wow I took one of her friends out to lunch In 2020

Lunch It was actually He actually used that word lunch I'm like you mean a date It was a lunch Oh man do you you mention a lot of your friends jane are engaged do you feel like you're you know lagging behind your friends is there no you're going on your timeline i think in the beginning when all my friends

were getting married like when i'm 27 28 and i was still single and i'm like dang that's when i started to feel like that but now being 29 i'm like oh man i wouldn't change a single thing i would never go back i think i'm right when i'm supposed to be i'm so glad i didn't get married sooner and I just feel like everyone's timeline is different and it's like embrace that and it's cool because I think because I was single longer and I had to wait a bit a little bit longer I'm able to help girls that are still waiting or girls that are around my age and they're like I don't know like I don't have anybody and I don't know I just I feel like there's there's still such a gift in singleness that people want to rush away they're like no I just want to get married and fix my

problems I'm like nope I think you need to work on those now and I think obviously you'll still always be working on those, but I don't regret a thing. I wouldn't change a thing. I'm really thankful for the timing, everything now. And yeah, I think I'm right where I'm supposed to be. Do you guys, do you just feel like you're destined to be together? Like, was it written in fate that you would end up this way? I don't want to say yes, but the amount of times I ran into her before we actually spoke. It was five or six in the most random moments. I remember one time I was running around the lake,

and she's on the long board and rides by me. This was like a year or not. Two years ago. I remember one time I was getting my haircut. I look out the window and her and Maddie are walking to a coffee shop. But I never saw him. Like that was a thing. It's actually funny.

Like, okay, I don't believe in fate, but I do believe God can highlight the person that he wants you to be with but we don't believe in the one it's like ultimately god showed us and laid us out laid it out for us of like hey this would be a good person to marry and i still had to choose that you know he had to still choose me because you know we both could be like oh well we'll just go find someone better like you're not this and you don't have this so we'll go find someone better but the lord i mean the amount of things the lord showed us is like actually ridiculous to where i was like i'd be an idiot not to marry this person like that's basically how it felt but i had even prayed

before meeting him after I had, you know, gone through breakup. I was like, God, I'm so sick of trying. I'm so sick of trying to, like, make this happen or manipulate a man into liking me type of thing. So I prayed. I was like, I want a story where the guy saw me and he just knew and he wanted to be with me because that was a couple of my friend's stories as well as my sister's stories.

And I wanted a story like that. I was like, I don't want to, like, force this. Like, I want God to be the one that ignites, has the man ignited for me. And that was exactly the story that I got. And, like, I didn't really have to do anything. Like, he saw me. me. He'd DM me. We followed him back on Instagram. And he asked me and I was just like,

all just like, all just like flowed perfectly from there. So I don't believe in fate, but I do believe that God can write a beautiful love story for you. Wow. It's been so fun to watch you do your thing, Janine. My sister's a huge fan of yours, which is I get wide now. Yeah, it's like, well, I don't know. She brought you up one day and we were like, Janine? Yes, let's go. She found out that we knew you and she was like you know jane we're like oh wow okay yeah tell her i say hi oh we will actually would you mind saying hello christine oh my gosh she would lose it hey christine it's his little sister she'll love it um okay wait i have a question for y'all i'm opposed back to you guys yeah okay so you guys are seven months in and um seven years not seven months

oh my god that'd be terrified if you're seven months you guys are seven months you guys are seven months and do you have any advice for us in both engagement season as well as being newlyweds soon? So much. How much time do we have? Give us all the wisdom. I feel like engagement is probably one of the hardest seasons you'll go through because you live in a limbo. You're not quite married, but you're more than dating and it's confusing. And everybody throws all their opinions and advice at you.

Including Sean and I. Yeah. Right now. And I would just say... And we're asking for it. I would say keep it short and look forward to getting married. Let's go. That's what I said yesterday.

Remember that your wedding day is a starting line. It's not a finish line. And if you both choose each other every single day of your life, even if it's, like, ugly and hard and you're not getting along and whatever phase of life you're going through, I don't know how to explain it. I've tried so many times, but, like, I look back on our wedding day, and it was the most perfect day of my life in that moment, but looking back on it now, our love was so small, because every single day we've chosen each other, and it's just like, we've gotten through some hard stuff, but it just makes your love so much bigger. It's so cool.

I I get asked like well how'd you know Sean was the person you wanted to marry and I think what's become a parent over time like Sean is

Sean has flaws believe it or not and so do I but it's like she is the one for me I don't believe in the one either but I do to the extent that like I believe that she is for me

and that's like Sean saying you choose your partner every day. It's like that's the universe that you need to live in is the one that's like Janine and Caleb stay together forever. Andrew and Sean stay together forever. And it's like having that perspective as opposed to this like more passive or maybe like a loser's mentality of like, oh, hey, things are tough and and I don't know, maybe it's not worth it.

It's like no, like they're the one for me. So we just need to make it through this hurdle, this argument, whatever it is. It's like they're the one because you chose them to be the one. It's your choice. I have one more thing. Geez, we could talk for hours. We've had the privilege of interviewing so many amazing couples ranging from like teens to in their 70s and 80s. And something that I think has become really apparent.

You guys talk about your faith a lot in God. There is nothing you can't get through. We live in a twisted dark world. You're going to go through a lot. there's nothing you can't get through and we've seen it with everybody we've talked to so amen thank you yeah yeah we believe that i'm filling this up i'm so excited for you guys what are you guys most looking forward to as far as what okay you stop no not bad besides that give me this look i'm like we're on a podcast that's not even what i was that's not

what I was thinking. I was actually thinking of not having to freaking drive home. Yeah. I was the only part about dating. Like my sleep since we've been dating is just like, I cannot wait. She's going to be gone. She's leaving for a trip today.

I was like, can I, you know, I don't know if the, you can. You can say it? I was like, you're not here. I was like, because I live with two other dudes. Can I sleep? Yeah. He needs like a good night rest. I need blacked out curtains.

I'm going to put her shades on my head. I'm going to spray the aroma all over my face. And I just can't wait to be pampered, you know, and be a husband and wake up every day and make her a coffee, you know, we'll live happily ever after. Wow. Wow. I'm honestly, I'm a big traveler. So I'm really excited to get to travel the world with him and show him more of adventures because he hasn't traveled international a lot yet.

I'm excited to get to have those memories together. And then also, I don't know, I think it's just like more like the mundane, I think, can be. so fun if you choose the right person. We love, you know, watching movies. We love cooking together. We're drinking coffee going on walk. So I think that's just going to be so fun. Yeah. I remember that. The whole driving home. Yeah. It would be like midnight. It'd be like 1 a.m. But we would always drive home. And it was just like, oh, I'm tired of this. But it's good. But you living with the boys, Caleb? Like that's the other thing about engagement? I would like, this is a phase. You know, and enjoy where.

you're at. There's no better time than right now. And there's a lot of beautiful things happening in your life. One of those is, don't forget, you spend the time with the boys. Yeah. So, dude, my apartment's insane right now. Our other buddy's about to get married. So he's been living in our living room with all his stuff for the last few days. And it's going to be there for three more weeks. And I have two other roommates. It's like, they have like a rotating door dudes that are just like in it. And like every time I come over, there's like a party. They're playing games. They're video gaming. I'm like, I want to end.

It's a fraternity. I'm coming down, bro. Let's go. I promise you. You'll have the best time of your life. Jeannie, I got to ask. I want to expand on you saying you freaked out and then you broke up. Like, is that, was that a self-image thing?

Was that like you not being ready for commitment? What led to the freak out, as you call it? Sure. Okay. You got a ring. Yeah. I would say it was honestly multiple things. One, I had gotten out of relationship not too long before him. And so I tried to take things really slow, but he was definitely way more ahead than I was. So he was telling me, like, I love you. I want to be with you. I want to marry you. And I was like, whoa, like, I'm just figuring out this. Like I was so processing that. And then I started to realize that I started to get this. crazy fear of marriage all of a sudden, where I started to see marriage as this thing that took from you. It was super sacrificial that I couldn't travel anymore. I couldn't live my

single life. I was like, I want to be single longer. But all of it was like very unhealthy. Like none of it was like godly. And then I think also him being younger, I was freaked out by that. I was like, you don't, you know, you don't have some things figured out that I want a spouse to have figured out. But I always trusted in who he was and who his character was. And that's like why I got together with him because even though he didn't have some things figured out, I was like, well, this is still a good man. But I was wrestling with like multiple different things of like, I think I need to be single longer. I think I need to pray through this more because he was really wanting to be like, I want to like do this. Like I want to like make you mine. I want to marry you. And I was like,

whoa buddy like i am not quite there yet and so fully freaked out i was just like he had just met a ton of my friends at that point and um i was like i'm just not ready for you to meet more of my people he was wanting to meet my family i was like i'm not ready for that yet my guy was ready for it he was ready my only defense is a week before she told me she loved me did i yes oh my bad so it was a little confused so i was definitely being i was just a hot mess around that time because I do I did know I wanted to be with him and I felt like the Lord had showed me but I wasn't willing to accept it quite yet because I was like I need to feel peace about this for myself that right I was going to say we had something really similar

at the lake house I remember I don't know if it's like more of a girl thing than a guy thing but I remember having those feelings for the first time of like oh my gosh like this is serious yeah and I freaked out every irrational fear came out about social media and people's opinions and like he wasn't in the place that I was and I was just like exactly like you said it's almost like something I always explained it to Andrew in my head it was too good to be true and I was so afraid of it failing that I would rather have just ended it before it failed oh my gosh you nailed it literally that was my exact emotions I was like most relationships haven't worked out so why will this one

so I'm going to go ahead and end it so that I don't get my heart broken one more time. And it's weird. You do so many things out of fear. It's crazy. Yeah. So I think this ties in. Caleb was earlier talking about he had the vision of the family playing on a beach in Florida. I think there's something so powerful about having this positive vision for your life as opposed to only trying to focus on the things you're not trying to turn it into, right?

Like, oh, well, I don't want to become an alcoholic or whatever. Like that is so much. smaller and less of a motivator and a lot of other things, then it's like so much less powerful than I want to be here with my wife and two kids 10 years from now. I want to be in floor. And like having that vision that it's not going to turn out that way, probably. Like you might be in freaking California on the beach or wherever. But being being drawn by that magnet of of positivity is extremely powerful, I think. So keep that up. And I think part of the the hurdle that Sean had I think when we were dating was I could be wrong but like you didn't feel

worthy right she was like wow I can't I can't be in this relationship because I've made xyz mistakes and it's like um now focus on the it's a fine line you know I don't know where it lies but it's like don't don't let your insecurities be a hurdle to your love right like don't let that happen she would at many points the beginning why do you like me this much why do you love me like why do you still choose to be with me and i'm like we just hung out for three hours and laughed and had the god these conversations and also i and that would i would be so confused i'm like wait i think i deserve someone like you and and so it took a little while for i think for her to be like no this is what i deserve and i deserve more and and now i think i've created a monster in the sense of

she is, you know, like, I just feel like she's just doing her thing. And, like, she's, she can lean on me pretty heavy for a lot of things, vice versa. And it's, like, it's cool to see, like, what you said earlier, you can get through anything. I think a lot of dudes would have felt what I felt in the beginning and just been, like, there's no insight to this. And I just think that, like, I felt it in my spirit, like, pressed forward. And, like, there was going to be goodness on the horizon and a lot of the stuff. and I was thankful because he he's actually very optimistic and I've noticed through him I can be quite pessimistic which kind of stinks I'm working on that but he's always been the one that's casted the vision he's been like hey look what we can overcome look what like he because that's what a man does and a leader does and I needed that because when I would be like no all hell's all hell's gonna break loose is it's gonna fall apart crap's gonna hit the fan da da da like I'm like rifting off all these things are gonna go wrong and he's like but what if it doesn't what if it all goes right and I'm I'm like, I've thought of that.

But by the way, so have you heard of this concept that the Hebrew word for Eve in the Bible, like Adam and Eve, means beneficial adversary? Have you heard this? Dude, I can't stop thinking about the fact that I used to get so frustrated at Sean because she had this different perspective of like, whatever, raising kids or, hey, I don't want to move to this place because X, Y, Z, or let's not purchase this thing, because whatever. and I was like, why can't we be on the same, we're not on the same page? This is so frustrating. But it's actually so beautiful to think of marriage as like a legitimate team where Sean has one

skill set and Andrew has a different skill set. And those skillsets are largely like our difference in perspective. And as soon as I, this is two months ago I realized this. So I hope you guys come to this realization faster. But it's like as soon as I stopped getting frustrated by that difference in perspective and started like jujitsuing it into this like oh hey it's actually really healthy that she's not just a okaying and like rubber stamping every one of my ideas like that's not good like she needs to veto some things because it's a healthier outcome when we come to a compromise and like move forward together like yeah anyway so I hope you guys experience that's so good yeah yeah my weakness is our strengths is what it's said

Okay, so if your perception of marriage before Janine was like limiting you from traveling and experiencing all these things, what is your perception of marriage now? Now I'm like, what a gift that we get to do that together. I think I really had to work through some stuff because I had seen so many marriages either fall apart or be really difficult where the woman was just. just very like oppressed or she she would complain like oh this man doesn't let me do anything and so I just saw marriage as like oh you're robbing things for me and and he never did that like he never was and he never even gave me an inkling to do that but I thought he was doing that and so now I'm like oh we get to travel together like we're we're a team we get to work together and I think it'll be so much more fun because I think single self was like no I want to do me I want to go

do my own thing and i wasn't even aware that i was fully thinking that but that's kind of my attitude and so i think now i'm like no it's not a sacrifice like god god painted it this way so that we can be unified and can be one together and do these things together and now i'm just like excited for it before i was so freaked out but now i'm like no i'm excited like we get to do these things together and um and he's never once tried to rob me from things but even just what you were saying like where there is the balance like I can travel every day of my life like I just I love traveling that much he's going to be the person even though I'm like that's so annoying that you're preventing me quote unquote preventing me from traveling he's doing that because he's looking out for me

because he wants to help me reach my goals to save money to be present to be with my family so I'm seeing there's a difference where I'm like oh you're not doing these to prevent me you're doing it to protect me and that's also what God does for us in a lot of ways so way to go baby It's almost like you have a podcast. I know. Do I have a podcast name Happy and Healthy or something? I was going to say, speaking of, where can people follow your journey? Because I, you better have a wedding video and all this stuff.

Yeah. Well, A, you can listen to our podcast, our podcast. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Wow. That was hard to say for a second. Wow. Our podcast, Happy and Healthy.

And then my Instagram, Janine Amapola, Amipola is A-M-A. P-O-L-A, and you will see us posting all sorts of things on there, as well as my TikTok. I'm a little bit more open and honest on my TikTok. All right. Can I ask, sorry, I'm going to give you a second to think about this, but then I need both of you to answer on my count of three at the same time. What month and year you think the wedding will take place? You have your answers?

Don't, no look. Here we go. Ready, one, two, three, go. November 2023. 12. Oh, we said a date too. Oh, he's locked in. Okay, so we're on the same page.

Okay, good. Good, good. Dang. Let's go. Yeah, when you said short engagement, Sean, I was like, we know. Wow. Some people have dog on us for that already. They're like, let me guess.

You're going to try to get engaged in six months or less. And I'm like, yep. Well, and again, a societal flaw, I think that's toxic. But people, again, we've talked to so many people who are like, I need to make sure I know this person fully. before I ever take the next step and it's like you're missing out on one of the greatest parts of marriage like if you

if you actively choose quickly in your dating relationship that like this is going to be your person going through that journey in marriage is so much fun and people who have eight year engagements like come on man you're not actually engaged them because you're not committed

what are you doing yeah and I was hearing them say that you end up marrying like five to ten different people because the person changes every two to three, five years. So it's like you've got to be committed for the long haul because the person you see now will be different in five years. So that's what we're like, we're choosing each other. Do we have a honeymoon discussed?

Miss World Traveler? We don't have anything finalized, but we're thinking Europe. We don't know quite yet. France, inevitably. Wow. But we don't have anything solidified yet. Those are just dreams, but we don't know for sure yet. Yeah.

Dang. Well, I'm so excited. for you guys congratulations i mean yeah thanks this is the coolest journey you're about to embark on and for those listening who want to learn more about janine and kaleb and what they're up to i would highly recommend it they have great perspectives and uh if you like this show you'll probably like their show so um thank you for the time guys and uh we'll be in touch yeah thank you guys we're hanging out dude yes i'm coming down to the hang at the fr house let me get your number and Sean will watch the kids together.

Are we doing kids? Have we talked about that? Oh, give me some time, but yes. No, no, no, not immediately, but yes, eventually. Okay. Okay, wait, you have that discussed? Two or three? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, we'll see. Maybe a fourth if it just happens. If the investments hit right. Yeah. I don't know if my body's doing five. All right, guys. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, guys.