Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 174 | ENGAGED! Hannah Brown and Adam Woolard’s Love Story

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

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When I, like, a person want to get close to him, I think, like, we have to be trauma bond, which it's probably not good. But I'm like, I'm going to pull out a little tea. See what happens. Are they going to pull out a little tea trauma? Little tea. All right. They're not, they're not feeling it.

All right. Let's pull out. Let's pull out a big tea. Are they going to, are they going to, oh, I loved it. I was like, she's my vibe. Yeah. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things.

What's Sean and Andrew? A podcast all about couples. And our friends. Yeah, pretty much. That's what it's about. I'm so excited. Honestly, we hit this relationship hard. Hard.

I'm pumped. Yes. I went on Hannah Brown's podcast about three weeks ago. Dang. And immediately fell in love. I was like, she's amazing. I want to be best friends with her. And then I got to meet Adam.

And I was like, dude, he's awesome. He would be best friends with Andrew. Yeah, yeah. We went to breakfast, had like a first date. Now you're doing jujitsu lessons together. He got me into a new hobby. Hannah and I sat down for a solid three hours and talked to trauma. Anyways, we're besties.

And they're. are in studio today and we are going to talk all things Hannah and Adam. Here's what I'm so pleasantly surprised with. I mean, we watched The Bachelorette. We're stands as they say. Maybe the most iconic scene in Bachelorette history. That's right. When Hannah was like Luke P. Leave. Wow. Well, I mean, that was just a beautiful rendition. During the final race. Hannah Brown's season was kind of the last. It was like the best one and then it fell off from there. From my perspective. Okay. But you look at the, people that are on the show and you're like you know I don't know anything about them

really it's like a show about dating it's hard to get depth in that show and in this conversation I feel like I really understood how awesome Hannah B is how awesome Adam is like we talked about what shaped them and how they got to where they are today so Hannah Adam thank you for joining us today if you want to find out more about these two if you're listening they're pretty great I would recommend that we'll link their socials information Hannah wrote a book and Hannah's new podcast which is amazing a lot of things gone so many things everything in the description below but go check it all out anyway without further ado we bring you Hannah brown and Adam woolard

first time I met his family we were still like dating but I was being very like I don't know what I want to do if I want to like me in a serious relationship but he was like I'm actually going to be in Nashville as well when you're doing the music video because my family is there and we're celebrating Christmas early I would really like for you to meet my family I'm like oh I don't know if I want to meet your family yet I'm scared like just like that was felt really fast for me but and it was it was fast it was fast

and his brother had just him and his brother and his your sister-in-law wow it was hard for me had just had twin boys during COVID hadn't let anybody like be in the house yet and this is the first time that everybody was getting together during COVID with the kids and he was like

wanted me to come but had ensured the family like I was just in this music video getting tested every day. I go the first day it was great and I didn't feel, I felt fine obviously

and it was great meeting everyone and then the second day I woke up I was like man I'm just so the day I'm leaving too. I'm like man I'm just so tired like I don't know why I'm so tired like I guess that music video really was just a lot and go hang out with the kids like we were like wearing masks when we

held the we held the kids like it was still very like we were being safe I'm driving home that day and it was like oh no that was that was the day I went to go see katelyn so I saw them felt kind of like tired yeah I was like oh it's just for the music video then I go see kately hang out with her and jason she let I spend the night with her and I was just like yeah I'm just so tired like it's been a long day get up the next morning still feel the same way on the drive home I literally felt like I got in like I felt like I'd been hit by bus and I was driving home and I was like I called my mom like I don't know what's wrong with me but my whole body hurts so bad like I don't know what I I don't know what's going on

because I had been tested four days I'm like I can't be COVID I get home I'm I can't even hardly get myself out of the car. I just lay on the ground and my parents, like, take me and, of course, I get COVID. So I didn't have to tell him that I have COVID, tells his family, they're like, okay, they all get tested. They all, I got seven people sick. I mean, my sister-in-law's parents, my parents, my brother. Caitlin, Jason, and there were somebody else. Oh, I ended up getting you sick, I think, eventually.

Yeah, for sure. And they all had. epidemic pretty much basically right here with him page zero i felt so bad and his family could not spend they didn't spend spend christmas together his mom and dad stayed in separate rooms

for christmas there's a really good first meeting oh yeah and they still like me so i don't know how i did that to lexie you did oh for thanksgiving yeah yeah we did the same thing we yeah well kately and jason was supposed to go to like they were supposed to like go see their family the first time

in like two years and they couldn't go it's not funny it's not funny at all it's funny it's funny now yeah but I felt so bad and of course like people Caitlin like shares a lot of her life on social media so then she's like no I can't go now

because she didn't come out and say it was Hannah Brown who got me sick but she was like yeah I had someone over and like everybody who falls them they know who's hanging out with who and she's like yeah I had someone come hang out with me no I don't think people knew Yeah. He's like, yeah.

Yeah, they did. They do now. People now? Yeah. We'll trace it back. Everybody's healthy now. Yes. It's just not the best Christmas ever.

Those kids have great antibodies. Yeah. Yeah. Dang, it's been a fun couple weeks with you guys. I know. I've been good. Come fast friends. You and Adam are like, oh, bro.

All he talks about now is jujitsu. I know. I couldn't think of anything more fun to do than come and talk to you guys. I was just like, let's get into it. Oh, this is Adam's only second podcast. Yes. Mine was his first. This is the second.

Fresh. Andrew asked me yesterday if we could outfit the other half of our garage as a jujitsu place. Honestly, you should. Don't fuel this. I like the energy. I know him pretty well now. I hung out with him for like a week. But like he's going to do it.

There's no chance he's not going to do it. He will. Did you see us grappling? We were rolling around, Hannah. I saw maybe like a short clip of it. I feel like this is going to go to Andrew's head so fast. What, jiu jihitsu. We drove past.

It's not the jujitsu philosophy. I know. I'm sorry. I had to say this and this is very like out of character. This is not something I would ever say, but I just have to repeat it. So I apologize ahead of time, guys. But we were driving down the road the other day. He saw a jiu-jitsu studio and two guys were walking up.

And one guy had a blue belt and one guy had a black belt, which he's taught me what that means. And he goes, I could beat their ass. I was like, what? As a joke. Oh, you're blushing. It's cute. Because it's a very humbling sport. Yeah.

I've done it. Really? Yeah, like twice. He wants me to get into it because it is really good for self-defense. But yeah, it's a very, like, hard thing. Even if I feel like if you're super, like, athletic, it doesn't really always, I think it helps. but it doesn't always translate and you'll see these guys that you're like how was he a black belt yeah and then you watch him and you're like dang pretty impressive i am not gonna lie i i again we've only

i feel like been friends for what three weeks now as long as yeah um since the podcast i was like i'm in love with these people they're amazing she literally said that i did she said that i didn't i didn't yeah and then we had our trauma talk for about three hours and i was like wow we are yeah my trauma talk But I just, I was telling people, I talked to my therapist about it. I'm like, I feel like I just like, when I like a person want to get close to him, I think like we have to be trauma bond, which it's probably not good. But I'm like, I'm going to pull out a little tea. See what happens.

Are they going to pull out a little tea trauma? Little tea. All right. They're not, they're not feeling it. All right. Let me pull out. Let's pull out a big tea. Let's see.

Are they going to. Oh, I loved it. I was like, she's my vibe. I mean, that's the way you figure out if you want to be friends with somebody. I also love that this probably won't make it. But I love that we are in the company of someone who's very young

and she's like, I've just never experienced any of this. And her poor little eyes were just like, oh my gosh. I remember walking in after the pool and seeing her and she was just like staring at Hannah. Just like, I was like she's not easy. She wasn't ready, she wasn't ready. She's so sweet, but I think she was like, yeah, I can't.

relate to really any of what you're saying. What's trauma bond right now? Trauma bond. Yeah. What was addressed?

Well, here's interesting to me. I'm actually curious because Hannah, you have a background in like beauty page. Most fascinating person in the world.

No. Oh, we, trust me, we have a team that does deep dive research. Oh, okay. And I feel like the more I get to know

about both of you, I'm like, they are the most fascinating people in the world. I don't know about that. Also, do you ever just think you ever just look at Adam's jawline and you're like wow that is

myel angel carved that out of granite that look at that thing guys give him so many compliments and streetman all the time

they'll be like hey I don't want to make this weird but like you're you're pretty attractive guy and I'm like it's so funny because it's not like

anything I've ever experienced before because the guy wants to make it very clear that like this is not like I want to to be with you but just I was like man like you're a good looking guy and he's like thanks

like this is so I've never never experienced that before wow yeah yeah I guess I have but yeah I was like I'm used to it oh it's so annoying like usually as the girl I don't know I feel like I had people like address me and tell them no now it's now it's you know it's him all the time I mean come on no it all the time no that's if go through her Instagram comments. Of course, but that's Instagram. In person, people will come up and they'll be like, we'll say

we're doing something, we're in L.A. have to go work, and they're like, oh, is he the actor? And I'm like, no, it's for me. I know. It's weird. I have acted. You have acted, but. The actor. You know what I mean. You're the thing. They're like, so

they always think it's you that is here for like whatever of it. Yes. I'm like, okay, great. Because he does kind of look like you know a Hollywood actor and his voice is even nice I know ladies and gentlemen could you just say that for a second start your engines ladies and gentlemen that's pretty nice you should have on the podcast more often in a world actually he was my first like well Sean was my first guest but like my first like person to be in the studio with

because I was so nervous and or wait did I have Sean first I can't remember you had me first yeah first like he was my guinea pig to figure out like can i carry on a conversation with somebody else that's what i keep telling her she was so good it was so natural with us i knew it was going to be that way but you were kind of like the first you know person outside of us yeah it was so good thank you like i came in at the tail end and i was like oh my gosh it's great like how we're doing yeah and then i saw it back and i was like wow it was so effortless yes thank you but in doing that he yeah I was like he's so good at this like being a podcast I guess guess but you probably do your own podcast one day if you wanted to but it's just soothing to hear

your voice and you're good about picking up on like transitions and stuff in a conversation you know I think that's important I think I'm not good with that he's good at that to like be like okay we need to go to yeah thing like how you just interrupted that exactly yeah yeah Who's more of a perfectionist between you two? Really? Yeah. But you're close. It depends on what it is.

What do you mean? So like when you get hyper-focused on something, it's like this has to be exactly how I see it right now. And I can be very like, that's not right. That's not right. I don't know how to make it right. That's not right. Where you, I think, live your life more like structured. Yeah.

When I get like in my like perfectionist mode. It is a lot. But it just depends on what it is. Like if it's interior design, it's just like, no, this is exactly how it's supposed to be. Nothing can sway from my vision right now. Yeah. But it just, it has to be something you're super interested in. And I've learned a lot about your brain in the past, you know, six months or so. And. Yeah, he started.

Oh, because I just recently got like a full diagnosis of ADHD, which, which I think everyone in my life has known for a while. I'm like, yeah, my doctor, I told him, I'm like, yeah, my doctor really wants me to start reading this, like, book. He's like, oh, yeah, I've been reading books about ADHD. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, well, just to, like, know how to best live with you. Oh, my God.

I don't know if I said it like that, but, like, live and support you. So you recognized it before. Did you recognize it before? We all kind of knew, but he was already, like, just, really more I was never researched it I was just like oh yeah definitely yeah I struggle with all these things but I don't know I wasn't trying to actively fix it and then it's like we need to actively try to help make life function a little bit better than it is right now and he had already been trying to figure that out for me I'm in a place in my life it was awesome yeah I'm just in a place

to where like I'm taking ownership of everything like whatever's happening in my life, I'm like, it is because of me. And maybe it's not always because of me. But I feel like as a man and, you know, someone who wants to lead not only in our relationship, but at work and all aspects of my life, like, I have to take ownership of what's happening around me. So it's like, yes, maybe, you know, we're a little bit off one day and I can just easily say, oh, it's probably her ADHD. But no, it's, I have to take ownership of that and realize, like, I'm reacting to her, she's reacting to me, but at the end of the day, if I don't own it, then I can't do anything about it. So I read some books. What got you to this point where you wanted to take

ownership? I think not taking ownership in the past and kind of seeing where that led. Yeah, I just, I feel like, you know, being very structured always, it has been great for me, but I haven't always, like, owned up to, like, what's happening in my life, whether that be, you know, with my job and kind of getting stuck in a rut in a job and not making a change or, like, finding a different outlet. Sometimes I kind of place the blame on other things, other people, my environment, and doing that is never a healthy thing, and it never leads to change. Yeah.

I can very clearly see why you guys get along. Has the ownership strategy? worked yes it's going well 100% yeah it was so many ways it was really cool to see a shift in that because I think yeah he he had gotten very always like super healthy regimented that that was that was new and um always trying to like grow and learn but there was like this switch of like I guess yeah like you're saying ownership of okay I'm not happy in this part of job and instead of just like trying to find other outlets like he would find that's like where jujitsu became like a big like hold or if it was yoga meditation like that's where he

would like go to um I guess appease the part that he didn't like in life instead of then like really going into like okay I don't love my job right now instead of pretending that I that's okay I'm gonna or like legitimizing it and like oh this this part of my job's great. Yeah. Like, ooh, I can, I can hang on to this and really, you know, kind of understand the value here, but it just all encompassing my job was not fulfilling. Yeah.

And I came to that realization, like years before I made a change. And that is just not something that I had ever experienced before. And it was a lot. So finally, making a change and taking ownership of everything is the only thing that got me to a new career, a new outlook. So what is fulfilling to you now? I have a lot of things that I'm super, super passionate about. Right now, I'm focusing on building a foundation for us to grow.

And part of that's real estate. Part of that is investments. A lot of it is passions outside of work, but my job right now is kind of, facilitating all of that and that gets you excited yes to like build that yeah it gets me excited to you because i love that he's back in i feel like we talk about this in the podcast episode um that we did but i think it's really cool a story of like you didn't find fulfilled i don't want to tell your story but like you got back to like finding fulfillment and the thing that you enjoyed at

first um banking like banking finance type thing and he had he had kind of strayed from that because he hadn't really you hadn't really found like your footing of how to i want to speak for you but like you've also filmed in that you went to like search find yourself find what other parts of life you enjoyed and you were able to like take all that time of that search and that grow and then bring it back into the thing that i think you're actually really, you really enjoy because that's all you did the whole time is his Twitter or whatever. All it is is like finance stuff. I'm like, why aren't you back in this? And now he's back in, back in it and like has really loved it. It seems. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It's really

cool to hear as like the outsider to hear her talk about watching you go through that whole journey of like being able to see that you weren't happy and you went on a search for something and to see she like lights up talking about seeing you happy again it's really cool it's really cool yeah yeah i mean because it uh i'm very i'm one of those people and i also know that i'm very privileged for my life kind of just like got me in this place where i can like i feel like pursue my dreams in a way that i know that it might i've skipped a few steps i'm very aware of that but as someone that um knows that you have like so much like passion and joy and purpose in life and believe that for yourself it was really hard to see him at some points like

getting a little complacent and making excuses for like oh but it it's it's okay in this thing it's like no like I want you to I don't care what it is I remember we were walking on the beach one day we gotten like a not an argument but I can I can be a little um nag i am aware of that when i want i think it's all like in um it comes from a good place for sure but he had been saying he wasn't like as happy in his job for a while so i would just every so often be like okay so what are you thinking about the job have you like thought of like where you see yourself and he would just be like so working on it i don't know kind of got in that conversation again

and I was like I look I literally don't care what it is I just want you to have like I want to be behind whatever your purpose and passion is like I genuinely don't care at this point if it is you know if it is just jujitsu or whatever I'm like

I don't think it's the smartest move to like open a gym right now but if that's what you want to do like and that like fires you up then great because I would rather see that then you coming home and not being excited about what's happened that day. Yeah. And it's so hard as a partner, as I'm sure you guys know, I don't know if you've ever experienced

this before, getting behind someone who isn't like gung-ho about something. And I recognize that in myself. And I was like, oh my gosh, like this is happening to me. How do I get out of it? And I would kind of legitimize my work. So just kind of to back up a little bit, I was a sales director for Greg Lauren fashion company, kind of, I was selling $6,000 jackets, basically. So like very high end artisanal brand. And I would travel, you know, twice a year to Paris, a couple times to New York every now and then.

And that was like the most exciting part of my job. And that was taken away during COVID. So all of that kind of shifted. I was working from home. I was, you know, doing more stuff on the fulfillment and the. accounting side. It just wasn't what I initially signed on for. So I was like, oh my gosh, this is not, this is not what I want to do for even the next couple years. So I had to really go back to the drawing board and really figure out what I was passionate about, what I wanted to

do. And it was a long process. It was a process that was not fun. There were days when I was just like, I'm just going to quit and then I'll figure it out. And then I would talk to you about it and just like, oh my God, you're just going to quit. We can't quit and not have something. Yeah. So long story short, it just got to a point to where I was like, okay, like, I need to start making calls. I need to start making moves. And I was doing this occasionally along the way, but it just got to a point to where I was like, I have to do something drastic. I have to jump out of this. And, you know, one thing led to another. We were talking about Nashville. That's the craziest story, I feel like. Yeah, you can tell that story. So he's kind of going through all this, like, finally being like, okay, going to do it like I am going to tell Greg that I just this is not where I see myself long term because I also think in that job like it wasn't just he's like oh um just like okay this is how it's going to be forever but I do think there was sometimes opportunities that were brought up in conversations he was like basically um Greg's like right handman and everything and

there were a lot of aspirations for the company but sometimes like it was just taking a while for that to happen so he i think that also was a struggle but like i said finally was like okay i'm i'm going to let him know that i think i'm going to move on to something else and we started talking about nashville one day um and i'm like it's a place that i'd always wanted to live being from alabama he'd lived here before just had like our first initial conversation the next day he's like baby i just got a call from the old bank that i used to work for here offering like asking if i'd be interested in a job so i feel like that was definitely like god thing we had so many other like um i think affirmation and confirmation

from god like along the way but that was that one was really weird because it was just like first initial conversation the next day like you hadn't heard from these people and forever and it was someone that i highly highly admire he he does amazing things in Nashville like super big in a non-profits and community work and just hearing from him and his excitement of the new bank that he helped start and the role that he saw me playing in and i was like oh my gosh like that so that kind of like started really started to propel the conversation of okay like here's an opportunity that is like being set in front of you like it's this something that you're actually would you be interested in it

and ended up not being where he took the job here but I think it definitely was what started the conversation and got us here and now we are obsessed. It's pretty cool like we know a couple people from the show and well just you know you ever know how people

deal with them. We know a couple people from different shows but it's like you know when someone gains notoriety it's like you don't know how they're going to respond to it but seeing you guys just, like, dive into the community, it's great. It's like, really, it's like, okay, these people can hang. And I feel like that's what Nashville is about where it's, hey, people are pursuing their passions. And some people might be noticed on the streets and other people might not be.

But there's a mutual respect because it's like, we're all doing this together. And it's, I feel like you guys have played into that well. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at mx.ca.

slash Yannex. Well, in going back a little bit, not to go on a tangent, but just like the relatability side of it, another reason why I feel like we get along so well. Everything that you just described is literally what we've gone through firsthand. Andrew Bounds down the NFL for a while. And as a spouse back then, whether you're a spouse or dating or not, but seeing like the connection between you guys, I could so blatantly see he. was not happy.

Yeah. And he was going through the motions. And I was the nag who was just like, okay, like you're not fully committing to this. I can see you're not passionate about it. You either got to be all in or we got to find something else or whatever. And he got a little lost for a year or two almost. Reflecting back on that phase of my life, I don't know if you could relate, but like the amount of resistance of like, I know I should do something different.

But it's this like daunting unknown. Yep. of like what is it what is the different like there's i know i'm doing this one thing and there's a million other things that i probably could be doing but that's overwhelming to think about yeah so then it's like geez that it's an adventure retrospectively to like jump into this whole new pond and like you find something out about yourself of like okay i can i'm proving to myself as a man that i could do something and figure something out yeah and take a step towards a career like build it's like exciting place to be as terrifying

as it is to take that step, you know? This is something Hannah and I talked about a lot the night where we talked about Little Zian Beatty drama was just like the loss of identity when you lose when you get off of a show, when you get out of a sport, when you transition careers or get out of a relationship, whatever.

But that feeling of being lost and not knowing who you are and feeling your identity was rooted in whatever it was you were or wherever you were is so hard to get through. And it can take people lifetimes to get through it. But I think when you have a partner and you can see that in each other and you can push

each other to be like, okay, I can kind of see that this direction's not working. Let's try a new one. It's really special. And Andrew fell in love with YouTube. And that's how we got here. I think it's awesome. Yeah. So it was.

And that's such a good point too because I am so grateful for you and you know this. Um, because you didn't let me just sit and be complacent. Because if she wasn't there, I probably would still be a Greg Lauren unhappy, trying to figure out like, ooh, are these next moves that the company's going to make? Are they going to fulfill me instead of actually taking ownership and doing it myself? Like if you didn't, if you didn't prod and poke, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be sitting in Nashville right now. And that's also, I can see from like you talking about Andrew, it's not like, it's not

that I didn't think it's actually that I thought oh my gosh like go do something else because whatever you can do I think you're going to be successful and just pick something where I think for him like you were saying it's daunting and when I think about my experience

is like starting like a new podcast or so that I'm like oh I don't know if I can do that or I'm scared but in another person I can always like see their potential and like I could definitely see out of potential I'm like, go do, like, what do you want to do? I believe that you can do it.

But it's hard to receive that and to also feel that, like, for yourself. How's it been for you finding your passions? What are you passionate about now and what's the process? So this is, like, probably one of my, like, biggest struggles in life. I talk about it all the time. I've talked about it since I was, like, a child. I've always wanted, like, somebody who's, like, love singing or loves gymnastics or even dance. Like, I danced, but I knew dance was not my passion.

Like, and as a child, I'm talking like maybe 10 years old. I went to sleep crying to my mom being like, I just, I don't know what my passion is. I don't know what I'm going to do. And my mom's like, calm down. You have like, it's a Wednesday. And you're going to school. I can figure it out. But it's always been something like I don't think my passion has been as concrete as I've wanted it to be.

and so my whole life I've been like I've wanted to be good at everything but I haven't really known like haven't had like a driver sometimes other than just like being good at something and that's something I've really like started to uncover these past few years and so understanding what are discovering my passion has always been a pain point because I like a lot of things but I've never been like obsessive about one thing you know how people will be like um get really into like for him like jiu jitzy like

obsessed with it i don't have anything like that movies actors shows there's nothing that i've been except for maybe taylor swift in like a weird way because i just like as a child like grew up with her respect but yeah she's best and her like next weekend right

uh yeah but um in saying all that it is something that i do struggle with but I do now notice the things that like make me light up when I talk about them so I get excited like for example coming in seeing this house like I love interior design and like the ideas of like just completely renovating something now am I have I had the opportunity fully do that myself I've decorated houses but like I've never like done a full Reno. No, I haven't, but it's something that I really am, like, passionate about.

Like, that's the stuff that I do watch on TikTok and YouTube and things. So I'm figuring that all out right now as to say what my passions are. It's, it's a journey, for sure. I love talking to people, obviously. I talk a lot, but. Which is great. It's great. It's good. I'm doing a podcast, I guess. I'm curious. I'm like, I don't want to interrupt. I'm curious. You guys. You guys. speaks openly about just like each other and like the journeys you're on and going through the roller coasters of ups and downs of life something that I remember working through with andrew with the NFL is as a partner seeing your partner's lack of confidence is one of the most painful things I've ever had to go through like as a partner like watching him and knowing his potential

and knowing his capability and his power and like everything that he's he's able to do but seeing himself doubt and seeing him kind of lack that in himself was so difficult. I feel like you guys have both gone through that and witnessed it in each other. How do you support each other through those times? I mean, the only time that I've ever noticed it with you, which was obviously like a big transition. I feel like you met me at a very unconfident. Is that a word? We'll take it. Yeah. Disconfident? No, I think it may be unconfident. I don't know. What's I was like, can we Google? You met me at a very unconfident point in my life.

So like, I think just recently, really, like, the last year you've seen me kind of regain that confidence, regain that power that I once had. Because, I mean, when you first met me, it was kind of like, oh, my gosh, does he really like his job? What was he doing here? Yeah, but I wouldn't have been with youth and rode the way if it wasn't like. like everything else in your life like you're you're always like set up for success very regimented like cared about um just the way that you lived your life and being fulfilled in a lot

of other ways it was just like the job it was like the job is important but we had very open conversations about it like even though i do feel like sometimes i felt um like i was a nag i'm not very good at waiting to resolve conflicts that's how i struggle and he'll he struggles with not ever wanting to talk about the conflict so sometimes i could be a little um getting my emotions to be like what are you going to do with your job and that's not the way to do it but especially with me yeah um but yeah that was hard but uh for me i feel like i i have like many episodes like a lot more frequently of struggling with confidence where I think you have like this big like one thing that we've worked through and I can see like how

much you've like really grown even in the last like few months it's been really cool but for me I think it's like more of like an ongoing struggle I don't know what would you say I think so it's kind of a day-to-day thing depending on it and like your career is so kind of all over the place in terms of like day to day it's really hard to kind of get into a groove for you like it would be for anybody just because not one day looks the exact same

so I think it's just kind of like oh I feel really confident in this what I'm doing right now but I'm doing something completely different now and it's like oh it's dropping and I wish you could see me the way I see you And I know you, I wish you could see, I wish you could see, I wish I could, you could see you the way I see you. Wow, that was a lot. And I know you always think that I see you with rose color glasses, but like the way you handle pressure, the way you handle so many different moving parts is like so admirable.

It's, it's not easy and you're, you're in front of the camera, which you're really good at, but it's like you're always under the spotlight. Whether it be, you know, a news article, an Instagram post, like, people are always, like, picking you apart and you handle it beautifully. Thank you. And you should be confident 100% of the time. They're really cute. Hannah doesn't like it. I, yeah.

You struggle with compliments? I just really struggle with it because I'm like, nope, that's not right. That's not true. The podcast, for example, like, we went through so many just like, oh, like I'm, I have nothing talk about like are people going to want to listen like all of these things which is still kind of true but like and like I brought up really in my head I was stupid and brought a vocal fry never should have done that but like I it's it's this thing where it's kind of like this um like when you when you were trailing off a sentence it it kind of like gargles a little bit it's kind of like

you're talking here and not from your diaphragm interesting and I just brought it up because I'm weird so like I read about like the best podcasters and and what makes a really good speaking voice and how do people kind of get drawn in to you as a speaker and as a podcaster? And what question should you ask? So I went down that rabbit hole. And I started like really intently watching her

as she was asking questions. And the vocal fry. And so then I'm like, oh my gosh, I have vocal fry. And now I've gone. No, vocal fry. No, I still struggle with it. But it was. No, it's gotten so much better.

Thank you. I just have learned you have to make sure that you have full breath but I don't think I know how to breathe very well but don't definitely

I mean I should not overthink no many things honestly well here a couple of things a noodle on for you Hannah

one I think often about the phrase to know is to love and that's why like Adam was telling me about jujitsu on her first date and I love bro dates

I knew nothing about it I had no empathy for it couldn't relate or like have any appreciation for it so i'm like all right well let me in an effort to like further our relationship because i'm interested in getting know better it's like let me get to know jiu jitsu better and so by showing up to a class i now learn about this amazing philosophy that is jiu jitsu and it's like it's not even really about the physical thing that i'm that i'm interested in that our form for but it's like as you continue down a path of hey let me dive into interior design

let me like let me take a two week course or like do a two week internship with freaking April Tomlin which we should line that up that's freaking nuts I don't think you understand I don't message people except Taylor Swift and April Tomlin I'm not kidding

she's like 20 on each room hey good morning I did have to like she did anyway I feel like I've told the story way too many times she did one time post my dance from dancing with the stars i danced to one of her songs t swift or april tomlin t swift oh my gosh for a second i was like does april do music no and i don't know this and i had to go back and see all the messages throughout the years i was like

oh my gosh she hadn't read it unsin it was so funny um no april i've just messaged once and i told her like the way that she designs house is like my my dream so yeah I'd love to me here but think about the process of like you dive into something and then you that passion grows so it really is like there's so many amazing things in life to get excited about that's where I'm at now it's been a weird 18 months for for me I've had like friends try to commit suicide in this whole I've had friends die and actually commit suicide it's like and I've taken a step back it's like okay well what do we do with that you know like with these people who are so sad you can relate to it to a certain extent but also dude on this on the other side of the coin oh my gosh man life is beautiful and it's like

i could get into freaking jenny loves plants caroline loves comedy it's like there's it's it's boundless what you could dive into but as you continue down a pass that passion will grow so like something to think about too also one thing yeah If you don't mind. You said you feel like you don't have anything to talk about, maybe. And if you don't have anything to talk about, then nobody has anything to talk about. Most fascinating women in the world. So it's like you got to kind of just own it.

Yeah. And don't overthink it. Just kind of let it rip and there's going to be good and they're going to be bad, but you're going to get better at the good and then there'll be less bad. And it's like, I'm freaking excited. So you got to, I'm done rambling, but that's my thought. I have a preaching one of that. Okay.

I'm going to add to it. Something that I love between you guys, your dynamic. I love, one of my favorite things about art. podcast is getting to see couples dynamics i love that this is prime time too yeah you guys are amazing the way you like respect each other you look at each other you talk about it's just so it's amazing i aspire to have that as well like yeah i mean you aspire for you know what i mean she's like one day one day i get what you're inspired by it in your and it's like we need to cultivate more of that i mean same like i'm like i'm not the physical touch person i'm like that's sweet

I can tell when I put my hand on her and she's like, okay, that's enough time, that's enough time. But I just wanted to say, I think there's something so special about, like, Hannah, the whole world knows you. No. From if not Bachelorette, it was Dancing with the Stars, if not Dancing with Stars, it's Special Forces, which I told you firsthand. I was, we all watched, we had watching parties for Special Forces because we were tied to it from Nostis. and we're like, is Hannah going to win this thing? Like, holy crap. But the whole world knows you.

They tear you apart. They lift you up. They define you. They edit you to their personality. They make you into people that the world believe. But then all of a sudden you find Adam and you find a safe place to find your foundation, which is what happened with Andrew. And I went through all of these insecurities that I still go through on a daily basis or like ups and downs.

but my foundation is Andrew and it's so cool to see you guys so openly talk about your ups and downs whereas like we have couples who have yet to even address them who are in their 40s 50s 60s and they're like life is perfect we have no issues we've never we've never argued and it's just really refreshing to see that you guys have like

stripped it all down and at the very foundation been like it's us and we're going to figure it out which is really cool I think that has to do with us both going on our own journeys like before we met kind of he met me during my time where I'm like I'm still not done trying to like figure out my life this is going to be a wild ride for you but if you want to be around but I think we had both like really understood I feel like pretty early in life like the importance of being whole by yourself like and if you're whole and other person's

whole then you can hold the other person and um like be there when like I'm going through it he knows how to like be able to step up because he's not leaning on me to get that um confidence to be able to be there for me because I'm not giving him any confidence you know last week for sure like I was not I could only give a a small percentage of myself and he that didn't um that didn't do anything to your confidence and who you are and how you can step up in the relationship. I think a few years ago, at least for me, I don't think we would be in the situation that we are

and now are the relationship that we are, where it is very open. I'm pretty confrontational, and that's something you struggle with, but then you're also, you can be very, you can sit down and let us, like, get down to the route in a very, like, I don't know what you do.

You do something I can't do. Yeah, like graceful and thoughtful way. Yeah, we just, I think, compliment each other really well. And I'm really thankful for that. You guys go to counseling together? We have. We have. Yeah.

We need a. We should do that again. Yeah. Even though our counselor was like, I love when y'all come in. It's just, it's nice because I don't think. She's not used to seeing couples who communicate. Yeah, we can, like, we have really good communication styles with each other. and I think she was glad that we were there and I definitely think there's things that

there was a reason that we started going I think from healing for it really did start with me like healing past relationships and jumping in and being in a serious relationship at a time like I said we met when I'm like I don't know if I'm fully like healed yet which I don't know if you're ever fully healed it's always a process but he has been like so great with allowing me to have that space to continue to grow and learn more about myself and um giving our relationship space and not pressuring me in any way even though like um i know like how much he loves me and how much like he's excited for our future together so we did start doing couples therapy so that i could learn how to express why i can sometimes be hesitant or

where this fear comes from it really doesn't have anything to do with adam it's coming from past things so that our relationship wasn't him always like oh my gosh is she always questioning me not always questioning him i'm still kind of questioning some of the patterns that i have in my life of what i think or expect love to be or given and what a relationship is like and so that was really awesome that he even was open to doing that and and allowing me that space to just say all my fears or my doubts or what I need from him. And I think you actually really did enjoy it as well. For sure.

And it helped us early on in our relationship, learn how to even better communicate with each other. So I think, yeah, I think it's great. We haven't done it in a while, but we can always do a tune up. Yeah. It's really fun. You mentioned being confrontational. He is a different way of resolving conflict.

I used to get so frustrated with Sean. It's like, she would just, like, beat a dead horse. There would be something. And it's like, can you just let it go? Like, let's move past it. We've got to figure all of it out now. Tonight. It's been cool.

We're seven years in. I don't know how, I don't know why it's taking so long. But this is where the jujitsu analogy has come in. I was telling him, I've talked about jujitsu more in the last two months because of our marriage. Whereas, like, whatever the thing is that's frustrating us, like, it's, really just a beautiful difference in perspective that I need to figure out how to find the value in it. Like, where's the, what is she trying to tell me in that, right? It's like, okay, she's being confrontational because she's uncomfortable with this decision that we're making.

Okay, sweet. How can I encourage her to communicate to me differently so that we can actually just like have a more productive outcome that results in this beautiful compromise in a way that like otherwise wouldn't like because it's not good in a relationship to just bullhead your way through and like do what you're going to do make the decision yourself that's not the way it's supposed to be it's worse that way so it's like okay she has a different perspective it's really frustrating but like and we've gotten it's been fun the last couple months have been huge for us but you have some interesting hobbies abby uh adam you have uh meditation jujitsu has this always been definitely hasn't always been i've been doing jujitsu on and off for about

four and a half years. Meditation has been an everyday thing. Literally haven't missed a day for over 11 years. Every morning. It's fluctuated in the time spent doing it and the different modalities of meditation. But yeah, it's been something that, for whatever reason, I've just known that I needed to do.

But the benefits being what? So much. Clarity of mind. Just like this weird inner. piece that's hard to explain. I feel like my perspective is just way wider. I've developed this empathy toward other people who have different views in me in a way that I never thought was possible. But it's constantly growing. It's it was this big like ego shedding, not like a specific event, but over like the first two years of doing it. I just, I kind of understood myself.

to my very core. It's like all these accolades, all these achievements, all these titles that I've added to myself, like, that's not really who I am. And I've kind of found that who I am is connected to every other human being on this planet in a way that I can't really explain, but I've come to a point to where I don't need to explain it anymore. I'm very, very comfortable not knowing how we are all connected in that way. Are you guys religious?

We are. Yeah. But I think that was also a, something that, for me, I've grown up in the church. I think after everything that happened, actually, I'm not, I don't think, I know. After my life kind of hit rock bottom, definitely hit rock bottom. I think I was kind of like angry at God for a little bit. When was that? I would say during COVID, kind of after like all the, the, the,

come down of all the shows I guess and just life and disappointment thinking like it was going to be something it wasn't really genuinely believing that I was like I never watched The Bachelor Bachelorette like that was not like a thing that I watched but um I got like this random call it wasn't from a friend like I had somebody randomly nominate me a whole thing and I was really like really in like a deep one of the times i was like in my deepest relationship with god and i was just like if this is like if this is for me god like okay but if it's not just like close these doors because like i'm really not even that interested i don't know what i'm going to do in my life right this is kind of when i was thinking all right i'm about to move to nashville um but like

didn't know what i was going to do really and the doors just kept opening and it's something like I was not pursuing on my own. It wasn't something I was trying to make happen. And most of the things in my life that I haven't tried to like make happen are the things that have propelled me to the next thing. And it definitely did. And even after the first show, like beyond The Bachelor, I felt so connected to God, my relationship with Jesus.

Like, I learned so much about myself during that time, good and bad. And when like the Bachelorette opportunity came up, I was like, god like if this is something you want great it it was kind of a a stretch for me to be the bachelor's because i i wasn't like if you watch the show usually it's like the top four girls that's who they normally pick from i didn't even make it to like the hometown dates so it was a stretch anyway but they had kind of started talking to me about it and i'm like i mean there's part of this that really interests me because if like if this is your will then like maybe this is how you have me meeting my person because I believe you can meet your person anywhere so

for some people it has worked out you know and then when it was just a a complete failure and and really um brought in a lot of shame uh felt like just disconnected for myself really um I wasn't even allowed like that much time by myself to even have like moments of peace in prayer it was really a lot like i journal or especially during that time like every day it was really important for me to have that quiet time like did not get that so just um to cut the story story short very like upset with like why like almost like god why would you allow this to happen because i wasn't wanting any of this like i wasn't trying this was not my agenda upset and in life there was just a lot that was happening

in my personal, private life, my family life. And so, yeah, I was in this place of, I've really hurt in every way. My body hurts. I'm emotionally hurt. Things just aren't making sense. And so I think I got a little mad. And then also was open to, like, how can I, like, just more open to everything, which I think was good and bad because it also, like, solidified my faith now.

where I'd never like met somebody that was not a Christian or at least said they weren't a Christian truly I everyone around me said that until I was on these shows and we met and I would say like you were not a Christian I think you'd you had gone to church in the past but you were definitely more spiritual and that was kind of like for me like ooh I don't know I was up front of like I'm in a place where I'm struggling a little bit but like a do believe in Jesus this is like um this is a big part of my life what are your thoughts on this and he was like I'm open to it he was definitely open and I'm like okay and it's been something we both kind of went on the journey with together me if I feel like being like healed him um

he's so heady I feel like you can be he's read like every book ever I feel like and really beginning to experience Jesus for the first time. It was really cool. In a way that I guess you hadn't before, he now is like, he's like the leader of, I think, this life we've created together

and really points me back to God and to Jesus, which is so like how it's all happened has been really sweet. Because I really, wanted that and that was something that was important to me but i also wasn't going to like push that on him and he wouldn't really let me push that on him either like he's um like he said like he's not um he went into like meditation like stripping down everything so he was at a blank space of like okay what do i believe is true and what am i am i going to follow and it's not anybody else

telling me to do that it's what's my connection and yeah that was really powerful i think for and like a big step in up for our relationship so yeah we now like that was our two biggest things when we moved to Nashville was finding a church home and finding community and that is just a really sweet like I think it just really is a really sweet reflection of where our relationship has led us both and to back I think back to home in so many ways that's like figuratively literally And, yeah, I'm really thankful for how God is, like, blessed us. Dang.

Sorry, that was really long. No, you explained that so well. Thank you. No, it was great. Okay. So I guess it's meditation, like the Wim Hof stuff. I was telling Adam I was getting into this breathing stuff in the morning. And this is when I knew I was going to like him.

I was like, I just do it like for four minutes. It's like two rounds, and it's maybe two minutes each of these rounds. and the video on YouTube is like I don't know five or ten rounds maybe and I was just I was like I just do two and he's like look at me and I said hey do more you could do three do three next time and I was like okay I'll do three and see that makes me roll my eyes because I'm like this is every morning I feel like I'm always kind of pushing the envelope but I have found that the difference between two of those sessions and three is way different yeah It's way, way different. It's like the difference between getting the cold punch for one minute. For two minutes versus four minutes. Exactly.

Oh, my gosh. But, like, I'm not telling out of, like, I'm not suggesting out of arrogance or I'm suggesting out of experience. And I've seen what it's done for me. And I'm, I'm that way with everything. I'm that way with meditation, with jujitsu, with, you know, exercise, everything. But I just sometimes respectfully, I are not always respect. Yeah.

And we're not, we're not the same. We have different bodies. different minds. I think we are more similar than me and you are in terms of like what we can take what we can handle

so I have to Hey, it's not that I can't handle it or take it I just choose not to exactly but I'm just saying we have bigger bodies

that can handle more stress. I have way more insulation. Yeah. It's interesting hearing what you consider a rock bottom

though because I mean you've been doing I've been listening to interviews talk about you had a tumor or a

oh yeah I know it's like it's funny when she reacts to this she's like oh yeah it's it's almost like you block it out I know like the the big T trauma stuff you're like I know we're still working on it yeah you talk about a couple of big T things in your book God bless this mess shout out that's right down below yeah but it's interesting I um yeah because that's when like how I viewed myself what life um if you live your life off like validation and being good

and I don't want to fully like get into like what my rock bottom was But, yeah, I think I lost, like, who am I? Because I feel like the world's saying I'm one, or there's some voices saying that I'm one thing. And I have made a lot of mistakes that, like, genuinely, I didn't really make mistakes at the child. Like, I knew what was, like, I had figured out what was good to do and what was bad. And we're not going anywhere near bad. and then my life just kind of

put me in these different situations that weren't as safe which was good in some ways it's helped me like become who I am today but there was a lot of like shame that I was dealing with publicly not even just privately and

it just made me like lose who I was I think I just like lost my like the way I could even like describe my myself who I thought I was, who I thought people thought I was. And so that was my rock bottom. Like, yes, I've been through, like, really hard things that were, like, upsetting and difficult and hurtful and painful. But when it comes to, like, questioning, like, who you are, that's a

rock bottom. That is interesting. And it's kind of like whenever I talk about, like, an ego shedding, it's like you have this identity ideal of, like, something you can always go to and point people to and like this is who I am all of these things all these accolades all of these things make up who I am and when something is taken out like your innocence or like your goodness yeah or like for me when I left the banking career like you're not a banker anymore so that's that's not a piece of this identity that you've created that you can point to anymore so it's almost like you're in this like vast open space of like what the heck am I yeah that's what led me down the meditation rabbit hole. And I think that's what led you down kind of like not only rediscovering yourself, but also

like putting that back together. Yeah, definitely. Like it like shattered fully. And then I had to pick up this pieces that like I thought were true about myself. Is this true? Is this true? And then look at the pieces that other, the trash or stuff that there are people are thrown at me and be like, is this true or is this not true? And taking it to be like, this is not true. And I'm not going to subscribe to this and this is like I know now I know me but I had to like dig deep to really be able to truthfully be like this is not true and I'm and it doesn't matter how many people still or believe this like I know that that is such a hard thing to do and it was the hardest time of my life like I it could see it in my body you could see it in my spirit like

I was just like, it's like, I guess they call it the dark night of the soul. Like I was really like not okay, but I think you have to get to that to be like your best. But yeah, I think that's the difference of trauma and how also when you're younger when big things happen, we have to survive and we don't have all the tools to be able to do what I feel like I've done at, you know, age 25, 26. so I do still have like I think I need to go help heal that little girl still because that's also still compounding and that's a lot of what I'm very open with my therapy because I actually love that that I am because I have so many people now that really love to hear like what type of modalities you're doing to heal certain things like I'm doing like inner family systems and EMDR and really going back because you can dissociate. from certain things and feelings just to survive and now it's like that was so great then and i'm so thankful that you know my mind or whatever helped me to be able to go continue on but now is a good opportunity and i feel like strong enough to be able to go back so i'm not just like oh yeah forgot that even happened it's like no that happened i can like grieve or do whatever needs to be

done to like kill that that part so I am not just like ugh but I still weirdly talk about some of like the like sad things bad things in like a nonchalant way but I think that just takes a little while because I had to for a while rock bottom I couldn't do that who said something about the voices I don't know we interviewed someone who said he was a musician and he said the human heart was not meant. Drew Holcomb. Yeah, for the millions of voices that we hear on a daily basis now.

Yeah. And I think it just speaks to that. Like, you've exposed yourself to so many people who have so many voices and so many opinions. And it shatters you.

Yeah. Like, it shattered me. I met Andrew when I was at my rock bottom. Yeah. And it was kind of like, I had to rebuild who I thought I was. Did you worry about that, though? I was like, oh my gosh, like I like him, he's cool, but like I'm unwell.

I think it was on our second. When did we go to the lake house? Yeah. Like within the first week of like dating, I had like a mental breakdown on sitting sitting out by the fire with him because I had real feelings even that early on with him and I could tell he had feelings with me and I was like, I don't think you understand what you're getting yourself into and I just like unloaded so I was like you have no idea what Twitter's going to say and I have to deal with like this from my past and I'm so like I just threw

everything on him probably scared the crap out of you but he was like no I don't care about any of that and I was like what do you mean no you don't get it then you actually don't get yeah yeah yeah I didn't get it either yeah and it's taking a long time but it's just been so great to have that partner that's like, I'm good. I'll work through it with you. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's really powerful when you have something that you care about specifically. It makes the potential dangers or the derivative secondary, like, concerns, non-issues. So it's like, find the one, find the thing that you're moving towards. And then, like, you'll move away from so many things. Yeah. This was a good conversation. I'd stay here for hours and talk about all of us. We just need to go to dinner or like a can't fire.

Yes. Superdampire. You guys are going to come to your first game night. So excited. Yes. Come prepared. Wait, when is it August? It's Saturday.

Are you guys going to come? Oh, yeah. Are you coming? Why don't I think it was August? No, we can come. We're here. We're here. July 29.

It's on my calendar. We were coming. Come hungry. Yep. Wear comfortable shoes. There might be a dress code. We haven't figured out yet. I'm so excited about this and I love like we said like one of our biggest things is we want to have community LA was sometimes hard for that and that y'all like have um you have the privilege to be able to have a space to be able to do that and that you use that to really help other people build community and to I guess I'm sure for y'all it's great positive for y'all because you're able to build connections yourself than for other people like us that are new to town like I really like I really like

like thank y'all for doing that. Thank you for inviting us. Wait to meet some of these people. You guys are part of it, but we have worked really hard to just surround and build a community that is just strong believers and great people and great stories and differing opinions and beliefs and like everything, but just good, solid people. And that is work. That's a job to do that. And I commend you just because I've seen it firsthand. It's like you were very just intentional deliberate about like hey man I want you to come try this out hey I want you to come to this thing that I'm getting to get in like that that is a lot of work getting eight people to come together and just like making everyone feel comfortable you know hey have you met so and so like

this is what they do I think you guys can connect on this like that's that's such a gift and a talent but also it's a lot of hard work to cultivate so I'm ready to compete I was about to say Sean Sean does game night for a community. I do it so I can win game night. Okay. You're like, that's all great, but I want to win.

I am genuinely super excited to see where this relationship goes. Glad to have you in Nashville. I'm thankful that you introduced me to, I think, my next new hobby and interest. And I've already learned so much for me too.

So I think that will continue. Thank you for having it. This is so fun. So fun. I told you, on. I was like, this is like the best podcast idea. I don't know who came up with it. But, okay, well, great, great idea. Thank you. Yeah, I thought this is really fun. So thanks for having us both.

It's been fun. Yeah. We love the dynamic of relationships. Yeah. Keep doing your thing, guys. Thank you. We'll do.