Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 190 | new parents mark ballas and bc jean

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Today we’re joined by the one and only Mark Ballas and his wife, BC Jean Ballas! Mark and I go way back to season 8 of Dancing with the Stars where we won the Mirrorball trophy and became the champions together! Earlier this year, Mark announced his retirement from DWTS and a few months later, he and BC announced they were pregnant! We couldn’t be happier for them and it’s been so fun knowing BC and I are both pregnant at the same time! We hope you enjoy this interview with this incredibly talented couple and be sure to check out their latest song, “Rainbow.” Link below! Love you guys! Shawn and Andrew Check out their song RAINBOW 🌈 https://ffm.to/alexanderjean_rainbow "We lost a baby last year, just when we thought we were in a good place to tell friends + family we received the heavy news that our little one wasn’t going to make it, we’ve both been through hard things in our lives but this was a different kind of sadness, this song is for anyone that has experienced loss in any form, We hope it brings the listener some kind of peace & reminds them that a rainbow isn’t far behind." Check out their song SO SMALL: https://ffm.to/alexanderjean_sosmall "This song is a musical diary of the beautiful chaos and transformative journey of becoming a parent. It all started with a guitar riff and concept we were saving for when we had a baby of our own. Once we got the good news that we were expecting, we were able to tap into our raw emotions that this next chapter of life brings, painting an intimate portrait of this new overwhelming love for our tiny human we have yet to meet. This lullaby is for anyone who is a parent or expecting to be. " ALEXANDER JEAN SOCIALS : TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexanderjeanofficial?_t=8hMno6sHp5K&_r=1 IG: https://instagram.com/alexanderjeanofficial?utm_source=qr MB IG : https://instagram.com/markballas?utm_source=qr BC IG : https://instagram.com/bcjean Check out Mark and BC’s adorable pregnancy announcement video! ▶ https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9phMmO4iT/?hl=en Listen to them on Spotify! ▶ https://open.spotify.com/artist/2QiOMJB2UydKMR6I966ETj?si=F6jlvcwiTvaoRRWqYWK5LQ&nd=1 Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/AndrewDEast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When you're with Amex Platinum, you get access to exclusive dining experiences and an annual travel credit. So the best tapas in town might be in a new town altogether. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at Amex.ca. what's up everybody welcome back to couple things with Sean and Andrew a podcast all about couples and the things they go through that's right wow we've been waiting since the day we launched this show to have this interview with a couple that we might have the most fun with yes we call

them family um I have known mark since I was 16 years 14 or 15 years you've known him yeah wow we were talking about mark ballast and bc gene or bc ballast they are some of our closest friends they are incredibly talented mark has won three seasons of dancing with the stars yes one of the seasons that mark won on dancing with the stars was with our very own miss sean and when i was 16 years old what was that season eight season eight mark actually gets into which of the people he's won with is the best dance Was it Sean? Was it Charlie? No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. But that would be crazy. That would be crazy.

No, he doesn't. Anyway, we do talk a little bit of Dats with the Stars, and it's fun. He's now a very successful artist, musician with his wife, B.C. Yes. B.C. is a boss. Yes. Singer, songwriter. She wrote, If I were a boy, casual.

Everybody knows that song. Everybody knows. And she wrote it. And now they're expecting their first baby. Any second. I cannot wait for them to be parents. I know. We love Mark and B.C.

Every time we get to see them, it's a good time. And they are so very unique and so very fun. So we hope that that shows through in this interview. Mark and B.C., thank you for joining us. They also just came about the new song, which is why they agreed to do this interview. Thank goodness. It's called Rainbow. Actually, by the time this podcast is released, I think they'll have another one called So Small.

amazing their band alexander jean is fantastic though one of my favorite songs of theirs is roses and violets we'll link all this down below as well as links to their social handles anyway mark bc appreciate the time without further ado here's the interview okay this is all just a master plan we actually don't have an interview we're just going to hang out for an hour yeah so guys we got you so you guys have a baby coming any day yeah yeah literally any day i know we're so excited before we go into like the history how are you guys feeling about having a baby any second i'm good like emotionally ready logistically almost ready almost ready you know like the crib should arrive at some point but we you know things like that we don't need that for the first

couple months right yes you need a crib they have a best they have a best oh my bad my bad yeah No place. We have the essentials, I think. We have the bassinet, was it the halo? Uh-huh. It's just really cute. We set that up the other day. We've got our...

No diapers. Got all the diapers. Great. Got our blankets, birthcloths. Our changing stations arriving today. Oh. And then we have the Nuna thing that's really sweet. And the Duna car seat, that was, that thing rips.

This is not an ad. No one gave us any free shit. So this is not a nod. It's really cool. I didn't realize that it would go in with the wheels. So I found that quite entertaining. Yeah, Mark has solved the car seat all by himself. I was very proud.

YouTube tutorial. He did it. The Duna base has the green and red, which is game changer. Yeah, we face time with Sean. Yeah. We're like, is this supposed to do that? Just wait. When you fly and go through the airport, the Duna's going to be a lifesaver.

Enough about, enough about Duna until, you know, until they do an ad with us. Where'd you guys get your slate of products? Who's mentoring you in this? Yeah. Yeah, I just would, I've done a lot of reading and a lot of asking of friends. And that's basically what I did for most of this pregnancy was create a registry of that was simple and effective. That's great. Yeah.

I'm curious when you found out you're pregnant. Yeah. What were all of the emotions involved? Um, I was excited. I was, well, first I think I was like, wait, should I be having a period right now? It was like one of those things. It wasn't planned. We definitely were like open to having a baby and wanted to have a baby.

But it wasn't something that we have been, we must do it at this time when you're ovulating, you know, we weren't on a schedule that way. We just, uh, yeah, we know you guys aren't much schedule people, so it's fine. It's fine. You are what? We know you guys aren't scheduled people, so we get it. Exactly. You definitely

aren't scheduled person. Oh, you just want me to be on that side. No, we were thrilled. We were super thrilled. I went to the, I was, I did a little test, and Hendricks was with me, and Mark was, I think, at the gym. I wasn't in the gym. I, of course, wanted to do this, like, elaborate way of telling him. Like, I've had all these ideas for years.

Like, how will I tell Mark when we're pregnant? Like, what will I do? I'll make this, like, big dramatic thing, and I don't know, make him a dinner with a bunch of baby carrots or something. I don't know what I did. And he just walked in, and I just, I actually. already had a bandana for hendricks for when this day happened because i'm prepared like that in odd ways and it said big brother so i tied around hendricks's neck i was like let's go tell daddy like right now and and he yeah and that's it it was just a sweet little moment yeah it was i was an

awesome moment and like it i didn't like it marked right tight it took me a second to clock it you know he came in and he had this new bandana i was oh you got a new bandana and then when i read it i was like so yeah it was it was it was perfect yeah if you don't mind me asking what were you doing at the gym mark it probably probably wasn't lifting if I know you I think it was it was it was chest day I was getting inclined you're going yeah I can't wait to see

she filmed the whole thing I think I think we posted about a few months ago but I still had my like tights on like I had like you know those compression tights he's like he couldn't have waited until I changed I like that I like Papa Mark is going to be such a good dad he's like such a feeler

I feel like your dad from the conversations I've had with him is like in a similar way and obviously I didn't grow up in your household but he seems very nurturing and like caring and he was he was always fun and a good time and yeah

big kid yeah I mean we're we're really close we talk a lot we face time all the time he checks in all the time he um you know we're we're buddies so yeah i'm excited to uh just to jump on this adventure like you guys are so like far into the adventure drew just turned four right did i did i read that correctly we have a four year old what how did that happen oh my goodness yeah she's ready for prom too she's like yeah she's she's so wise yeah i love it i love it we we got I got dressed for school today, and she was like, Mama, I want the bun where you'd, like, you wrap it around with the bow on top. I want the glittery boots, but with the blue socks.

And I was like, wow, this is a whole thing. We're, like, going, yeah. I love that. She's ready. Well, thank you for sharing the announcement process and how that went, but I know that it wasn't an easy road to get here. You came out with a song called Rainbow, and could you tell us the origins of that song? Yeah, we got pregnant last year around summertime. Yeah.

And it was right before Mark started dancing with the stars. Yeah. And so we were really excited. It wasn't a planned thing. We thought, oh, wow, this is meant to happen. And then, you know, a few weeks in, like 10 weeks in, we found out that we didn't have a heartbeat. And it was like the week when we found, I think we were going to hear the heartbeat for the first time, that kind of thing. So it was heavy and shocking and sad. But I also had a weird

woman's intuition, like right before we went in. And I just remember looking at Mark. I'm like, hey, just remember everything happens for a reason. And he was like starting to film the appointment and we were excited to hear the heartbeat. And I looked at him. I'm like, don't. I just like knew. Yeah, she had a gut feeling, I think, you know. And, yeah, I'll let you. Yeah, it was, it was, it was interesting, like, yeah, experience. Like, I've been to some things, like, we've all, like, we all have, right? We've all had our things in our lives, but that was, that was different.

That was, like, a unique type of, I don't know, sadness or, like, feeling. Yeah, like, so, yeah, it was a challenge. And obviously, like, I was in the middle of this show at the time. time so I you know we had to the show must go on yeah we had to keep keep it moving because you know we all have a job to do but in private in our private time we were you know being there for each other and having to go through that was quite um uh I don't know it was a bonding experience yeah um but it and so we wrote a song yeah based upon that experience which which didn't come for a few months later once we were ready to kind of put it down on paper you know but yeah just kind of happened

naturally and we let it the lyrics come as they came it wasn't like a sit down and just write it experience we definitely started it and then went through the grieving process some more and then came back to it and we i feel like we finished it months later yeah it was we kind of had some ideas going around and it kind of i think started as a journal entry almost you know and just kind of us talking through it and being there for each other and um it was cathartic cathartic yeah yeah Yeah. Like at one point, well, I don't know. Like, maybe this one's just for us, you know, but. But it's interesting when you think, you know, when you go through something like this, how you can feel like kind of alone and, but then you realize how common it is and how many people

have experienced it and then you get to talking to people and it's, it's crazy. And you then kind of find community in that and, you know. Yeah, our family and close friends and you guys, we consider obviously close friends and family you know we're really showed up for us and we're there and and we're um for the people that knew yeah because we didn't tell we didn't tell many um and it was it was interesting to see how many close friends and family had a similar experience or had been through the same thing and um you know it was interesting to learn that how common it is you know so yeah nobody really prepares you for it i remember When it happened to us, that was the first thing the doctor said.

It's like, this is really common. It's really normal. But your mind goes blank because it's devastating. And I remember Andrew and I, we had a decently hard time getting through it. It, like, affected our marriage. It affected our conversations. I was instantly ready to go again. I was like, in my mind, I've switched on to being a mom.

Let's do this. And he was like, let's take a break. Like, this is still very heavy. How did you guys, like, navigate going past that? Were you ready to jump back in both on the same page? It's a hard thing to agree. Honestly, I have a weird way of coping with things. I easily can come up with jokes and move on.

And, of course, I go through my grieving process in my own way. But I think for other people's sake, I tend to be like, it's fine. It's no big deal. Like, this stuff happens. We're not special. you know, I come up with all these phrases to make him feel better because I feel like you are more like a hard on your sleeve kind of person. Yeah.

Where I'm more like, let's make a joke and move on, you know. So I was like, want to go to the bar? You know, I was like, I was there. Like, let's just turn this off. I don't want to feel pain. And then as soon as I was alone, I turned on the radio and my Spotify like knew what I was going through and just chose all the mean songs to make me cry. You know, it's like that.

Yeah, I mean, I think we were just really there for each other. We obviously, we both deal with things differently. Yeah. But we both know that about each other, not just pertaining to this, just like we know where to give each other's space, where to give each other's support. I definitely wear my heart on my sleeve a little bit more, you know. And, yeah, but we had each other's backs. Like, I know her so well. So it's like...

I don't know, seeing how strong you were through the process, I think, was quite amazing for me to witness, like, just her strength and perseverance. And, you know, it was, yeah, it was just a, it was an interesting time. And it was also, like, right in the peak. Like, I was, I was so busy at the time, you know, so, but. No, yeah, you were, like, meant to go back to literally go to rehearsal that day. Yeah. And he was like, I can't, I can't do that. And I'm like, you have to go.

Like, I'm fine. Like, you have to go. You have to be there for your partner. You have to get your, the life goes on. Things happen for a reason. And we have to just, we'll have time to grieve. We'll have time to be together and go through this, like, for the rest of our lives, you know? Yeah.

But we, you know, I took the time that I needed to kind of gather my thoughts and my feelings. Make sure, like, obviously my wife is my priority and making sure I was there for her in those moments. but then also having to be a part of, you know, a machine of a show that's moving along. So we found time for each other. Yeah. During that, you know, we support each other wholeheartedly. So I feel like we made it through. It was a challenge.

It was a challenge. But we, you know, we got there. We got there. And now here we are here. Yeah. See, because everything does happen for a reason. And that's the only way that we can look at it. Yeah.

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Getting some hair action there at the end. Yeah, we actually got lucky with that shoot. We were planning on going over to Malibu and getting a sunset shot. And we were a little late. And then the road was. closed and I was like no we can drive our jeep let's fine and we're trying to like find an off-roading situation and we just got then it got dark and I was like yeah it got dark I was like we're not we're not getting this at all like but so we found this like hill that definitely was

not meant to be driven on and I could tell that someone had gone off-roading up and I'm like well we do have a wrangler like let's put it in four-wheel drive and see what this thing's made of you know it's one of those situations so we drove up there kept our headlights on and used that as lighting and we shot it. We did the whole thing in the oceans behind us, but you can't see it. Can't see it at all, yeah. And then after we were pretty much done,

the moon came out. Yeah, the full moon came out and we were like, let's shoot again. So we pivoted to the left and then re-did everything again. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah. Wow. How long you guys known each other?

How'd you meet? We met at a singer-songwriter night. October 2012. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. And it was I was there playing

guitar for a friend actually the week before I met BC and a buddy of mine called me like hey man I'm playing this thing will you play for me are you busy this weekend and I was like no I'm around

I'll do it so I went and played and he's also one of the best singers I've ever heard in my life and to shock and surprise he forgot all his lyrics so I had to like cover him for a second so after you got like he forgot all his lyrics he was just like singing vowel sounds and how often does that happen

for one of the songs like there was the big chunk of like lyrics missing what it's the most beautiful he's never done that before he's like literally an incredible yeah he probably made it sound like that's like oh can you like do something so i started like ad living on guitar Anyway, afterwards, the host of the evening said, Hey, man, I really like you're playing. We do this all the time. We do this weekly. Do you want to come next week and play your own set?

Like, do you do your own stuff? I was like, yeah, yeah, I'd love to. So the next week I came, it had doubled in size, and it was just kind of like a living room jam. They had GoPro's up. They would stream it online, and, you know, the money went to charity. And it had completely grown in size. I was like, oh, wow, this is like a lot busier than the last week.

And when I got there, BC was on stage. I was late, obviously, when I got there. So I got there and BC was on stage, but I couldn't see her. I could only hear her. And like if you, like imagine being in a living room, right? And the living room's packed and you're kind of in another room. But there's not an actual stage. Yeah, or you're outside on the patio.

Like people are socializing. And I could only hear her, which in L.A. is, you know, it's rare. You're up there bearing your soul and no one's listening. Everyone's on their phone. They're talking. But this room was silent for. for her, you know, and I remember walking in and being like, yo, whoever that is, that's some pipes. I like, I like that sound. And from the sound of her voice, like, I think I was expecting, I don't know, like I was, I was expecting, I was expecting, like, this whiskey drinking rock and roller, like, pretty much.

Road, like, been on the road, um, harsher looking. No, just like, just like, like tattoos everywhere. Yeah, like, I wasn't expecting this cute blonde. You know? And then I was up next. So when I came in, I saw her there. I was, wow, like, she's beautiful. And then she was tearing down. I was setting up. Yeah. And then Mark gave lots of, like, hip movement and fast fingers. I caught that. Yeah, you better thrust those hips. Well, I noticed she was sitting right in the front. So, you know, I was given a little bit extra. And then after my set, I was with my cousin, Sal, at the time. you know self oh yeah he was like i don't i don't know anybody here let's go i was like no no no like i have to i have to go speak to this girl he's like bro let's go and i was like no no no so who's the younger guy with the attitude

he's like let's get out of here so i went and sat next to her and i we just kind of started chatting um i told her i you know i loved her set she loved mine as well uh we exchanged um numbers and i was like oh i'd love to love to take you out some time and she said oh i'd love to write a song with you like You gave me, like, the business hand, you know what I mean? Whoa, slow down. So, yeah. Yeah, and then.

I did that for a while. Yeah, she gave me the hand for a minute. And then eventually, well, you know, he, like, called. It was like, let's go out. And I was like, he seems nice. I don't know if he's my type. I don't want to, like, hurt him. I'm not in the place.

Like, I was doing the whole, like, overthinking girl thing. And then he wanted to go to the movies. And I just kept, I was like, no, that sounds like, what are you trying to do with the movie? movies. I don't know you. Watch a movie? And then eventually, I think you, I think you wrote me to go out on Halloween. Yeah.

And then I told him I couldn't go. And then he saw my Instagram of me like, I was like, I'm not going out tonight. And then I posted me out. But then eventually, we linked up and we went on, we went for Taco Tuesday. I remember. She was like, yeah, we can meet for Taco Tuesday. I'll drive myself. You don't have to pick me up a long stay an hour.

I was like, okay. very strict rules to date me and then we were there for like five hours yeah i remember after the first two i was like don't you have to go she was like oh no no i'm good now i was like i just said that i just needed it now wow and then yeah then here we are you know it's 2023 now and you've got a bun in the oven wait and then how long did you guys date before you got married we got married in 2016 yeah so four years four years yeah how did mark propose bc i feel like he's such a romantic that it's going to be an epic story he so at the time we bought a home that we actually long story but we never moved into it yeah and um it was a reoccurring

thing i was a reoccurring theme what is it's it's we were supposed to have learned our lesson there was positive experience we're going to use the positive experience we don't have to dive into that Inside joke. It was under, you're here, here, thank you. Thank you.

We, it was under construction, like crazy construction. It was literally a construction site. Yeah, it was inside, though, outside.

And I was told by our then manager that Mark had an audition for something. And then at her house, there was a meeting with some guy that wanted to meet me for this music thing. I have to say, the reason I'd set it up like that because I knew that,

if she had showed up not dressed, she would have been pissed. Yeah. So I had to like... I love me naked. I know, but you know what I mean? Like you showed up in my sweat? Yeah, like in a track suit or sweatpants. Like you would have been mad.

Yeah, probably. So I had to like make sure that she had a meeting. Yeah, I was at a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, the thing. Yeah, the thing. Carry on. Sorry.

And then as I was driving to our manager's house, which is near our new almost house, something was wrong with the plumbing. The plumbing. So I had, she called, she's like, you need to stop by. I'll make tea, I'll hold, I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. So I stopped by the house and then as I walked to the front door, there's lyrics to our song, which was Magic by Coldplay, and the lyrics were on the front door.

So then I knew, like, I was either getting proposed to or getting asked to go to prom. Like, I knew something was going on. Yeah. And then I opened the door and the whole house was decorated with, like, rock and roll posters and daisies and candles and flout. like the whole thing cool lighting and I had to follow these arrows yeah I put like arrows like hi babe and then following the arrows throughout the house and it was all decorated bohemian style

there was couches in there we had furniture and then I went to another room and he was in the room yeah and I was like before she like I was hiding around the corner so I was like as soon as the door open like I hit play on the iPod you know the iPod or the phone whatever Because I had speakers, like, through the room, so that the, you know, music's got to be, it's clutch, right? It has to be like, and I had like GoPro's set up so I could catch her walking to the room. And then, you know, I pressed play and I knew, I probably had about 20 seconds before she got to the room. And I was like, maybe I'll sit. I'm going to stand.

No, I'm going to sit. Then I'm like, then I like leaned on the bar. Then I sat down again and then I ended up standing. As soon as I walked in and you like, stood up. My heart was like. You know, so. And then he had a cute little chatty moment with me, and we had a little private moment. Yeah.

Got on the knee, proposed. I did the knee, the whole thing, which was a challenge in skinny jeans. Yeah, tight, tight jeans. And then he said, I have one more surprise, and he started howling. And then I heard howling throughout the house. And it was like friends and family all coming through. My grandma came in on our scooter. I had all our friends and family hiding in the house.

That's amazing. When I, like, called out, I was like, woo! Like, they all did it back. And then everyone just came in the room and we got some really cute photos. Our family was there. I was like, so I don't have to go to work. They're like, no, I'm like, we can party. They're like, yeah, I'm like, fun.

So it was like a little, we had a little engagement party right there. Yeah, a little hang in the construction site. You had a pizza, what's it called? Some brick oven pizzas. And we just like vibed out to listen to music. And yeah, it was great. It was fun. It was probably like more, like it was better than the wedding because it was just so unexpected.

So fun. Yeah. It was fun. Mark can create some moments. I'll never forget that speech. You did it Derek and Haley's wedding. Oh. Where at the end, they just rip off the shirts.

Yeah. That was so good, dude. Yeah, that was funny. Corn? Yeah. Corn. It was corn. Gosh, that was sick.

Yeah, yeah. No, it was fun. That was an interesting thing to write because it's, you know, nearly 30 years of friendship. So it took me a minute to start. To start. Like, I was, I sat down. many times to write it and like every I was just like no I'm not not I'm not feeling it yet I think

you're just putting pressure on yourself yeah I'm I think I'm just like that in general with whether it's writing music or writing something to a loved one if it's a letter or you know creating a routine or something like I have to I have to like feel it you know what I mean so it took me a minute but it it came like I'd say like nearly two weeks before the wedding and then once it started it was just, you know, but 30 years of friendship, you know, you don't want to go too long, you don't want to be too short. It was a lot. It was a lot. But it was fun. I do have to say, it's been so fat. I mean, I grew up in Indiana playing football. I never cross pass with people as creative as you too. And so getting to know you both has been so fascinating because your brain works totally

different than anybody I grew up with or usually spend time around it. But it's been really delightful. And yeah, when you putting together a speech like that, I've done a couple times and it's so, like even the stories you curate, I'm sure there's a million stories outside of the one of you and Derek going to the corn concert that

you could have chosen, but the stories that you choose to curate, like almost define your reflection on what that relationship means to you. The whole thing is a fascinating process because like there's a million memories you have. Which ones are top of mind and which ones do you want

to have defined the relationship and that was the thing like getting it into paragraphs too like you know we went to endless amount of competitions together we we did everything together went to school together we went to college together you know but I think the reason I chose that is because that was such a through line of our childhood like you know when we weren't competing or we weren't learning music or learning dancing or doing theater like that was what we did for fun right like we went to concerts like we I don't remember we would keep a we had like a shoe box with all our tickets in it that was something that we did together but when he first moved over from utah like he wasn't really into hard

rock at the time and you know once he got it once he got into it like that's all that's what we would do in our spare time so i cannot picture derrick going to a corn concert dude back in the day derrick pays nails he had like the long hair like really oh i have photos that are just hilarious. I still remember going to Ballas Huff band. Oh, yeah. The best band name ever.

The good old days. But between the two of you, since you guys met 2012, all the way till now, you guys have gone through a lot of massive changes with like your careers with your branding. You went from like individual artists

to now you guys. do music together. How has that changed your relationship? Because working together, raising kids together, being married together, that's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's every, you know, it sounds like a lot. But for us, it just kind of makes sense. I don't know. We, we kind of just let fate guide us and we're feelers. So we just kind of, it's not been like a plan. thing like oh we must work together and we should do it just kind of happen yeah and right yeah i mean for us it works you know i know it's it's not for everybody i know everyone's everyone has a different experience right but for us like we enjoy that time together we enjoy creating together um

we do have an interesting dynamic in the sense that like and i think just the way i um was raised from doing you know a lot of music learning and then going to theater school and dancing on the you know as well like i'm very good at like oh we're on time to go you know whereas bc's a feeler oh time to go let me get ready real quick yeah bc's more of a feeler like she's got to feel it which i yeah you know i love that and i respect that but when she when she's on like you know it's time to go so for us it's um it's really a balance yeah it's totally a good balance and it works for us um but yeah it's gonna i think we've had so much um time I'm creating together and working together that I'm hoping that crosses over into the parenting

side of things, you know, to see, you know, like, again, you're working together on that, right? To raise a human being. You guys will know better than us, you know, to raise a human being. So I'm excited for this chapter to see how that goes, you know. It's going to be fun. Without digging at bones, I want to ask him the question that we're not really allowed to ask anybody. We've learned the hard way.

but like what's your biggest point of contention between the two of you? What do you mean? Like what, uh, what, uh, what's yours? I feel, what is ours?

Uh, dogs is one. Dogs are, or sleep, sleeping in babies. Oh, man, you guys are in for a treat. It's like the argument that never gets resolved.

It just gets pushed behind the door. Is there like the, like you don't want let dog sleep in your bed. Is that what you mean? Oh, no, no. Sorry, are two topics that cause the most arguments are usually, they either relate to dogs, like how to take care of. Sean treats dogs like royalty.

I love dogs, but I treat them like dogs. Yeah. I'm guilty of that, too, though. Like, the dog is the king in this house. But you weren't like that before Hendricks, right? That's true. That's true. And then the other topic that always causes arguments and never, we never really find middle ground.

is like sleep training kids like what's enough what's too much what's like where's the hard lines there well we're not there yet so we'll take the tip the baby will cry and i'll be sleeping and she'll get mad of me that i didn't that didn't go up there i was like well i was sleeping i didn't hear she's like you got to do better and i was like what do you mean by do better do better how post that you did when you're like i'm going to sleep on my husband's side of the bag yes just wait that was funny that was good so i'm curious do you guys have the those, like, topics? Yeah, we must. We must. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I feel like one that comes up a lot is just probably what we already stated, just me being like, Mark's just very good about,

okay, let's make a list. We have a schedule. Let's do that. I'm like, okay, yeah. And then the next day, like, I'll forget. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a little. That's what we make lists and we have things to do. And then I'll have a feeling of something else and I'll be wanting to write a poem outside and go to the beach or, you know, whatever. I'll give an example, right? We work here at home we built this home studio so because we wanted to be able to create when the vibe hits right yeah versus scheduling like you go to the studio you pay for time you pay for time you're not feeling creative and then you're not you're not in the vibe right and then four hours go by you're it then you're in the vibe and you've got an hour left or you've got two hours right you know so so

so we're like well let's let's during um during the pandemic we took it upon ourselves to learn the engineering side we took courses on that so that we can push the buttons ourselves if we got an idea at 3 a.m it's an idea at 3 am not on monday when we have studio time or we got a we got a buddy doing us a favor to engineer right so like we'll be in the vibe and i'll be recording her vocals because i'll engineer vc and she'll engineer me and we we go back and forward so whatever so i'll like i remember this like we were like in a vibe and like she's like i'm just going to run the bathroom real quick i'm like all right cool so then i start editing i'm working away i'm working away on there and i get sucked into the editing wheel because once you like making music is you know you got distracted too

yeah but i was trying to do stuff that i didn't wouldn't have to do later you know so and then i'm like it's been like 45 minutes like what is she doing like and then i went i go in the bedroom she's just like in there folding her clothes watching a show i was like Yo, we're in the middle of, and she said, oh, my bad, yeah, fresh space, sorry. I saw my closet and I was like, I have to handle this now. So, like, that's something that we have. Call it Spacey, call it ADD, call it what you want, but it's just the way my brain sometimes works. Yeah.

Which makes him a little frustrated, understandably. I would be frustrated with me too. And then I understand I can frustrate her because I'm like, we've got to hit the list and I can be annoying. Yeah. you know Sean always talks about um your guys time together as like that that show is like family so I want you each what Mark did you learn about Sean at through your relationship that started 15 years ago that could be unique insight for me and the husband and vice Verso. Like, what do you know about Mark, given the intense working conditions that you both

shared? Well, I think, you know, it's, that's such a layered question because we were both so young, you know what I mean? And, and, like, I was still, I'd only been in America for a year and a half. Like, I was still, like, finding my feet as a choreographer and as a teacher. And, you know, this was like, it's just, it was a whole new experience for me. And then same Sean, fresh out of the Olympics, and then not be. being on that regiment that's like, you know, I'm like the schedule you guys have and the workout routines and stuff like that is, you know, I can't even imagine. I, you know, I know, I know what ours is like. I can't speak for you. But so I think we just got along really

well. We, we had a lot of fun. I will say she worked so hard, like really worked hard. She's, she works hard. She's tough. And she tough too, you know, so. And I think we bonded on that. but we I think through our whole run of the season like we knew when to get serious we knew when to work hard we knew when to like kind of you know hit the gas but we also had a lot of fun and a lot of laughs and we tried not to take it too serious and and I think for both of us we didn't think like I know we we weren't thinking that we were going to win at all like when we made the final like you know the talk was like oh congrats you made the final you know and then I think for our, we were stoked to be in the final. And then when, when we did that last dance, like, it all just, I remember that feeling. Like, it all coming together in that moment. Like, you know, you feel it. I'm sure it's like when you nail a gymnastics routine and you hit that last pose, like,

you have a feeling like, oh, yeah, I nailed that. And I'm sure when you're playing football, too, it's like, because you do that, you do that really intricate, hard passing. Like, I'm sure you know when you're like, oh, I probably could have done that better or I stuck that, you know. And it was those feeling, that feeling at the end of just like, wow, like, it was just a whirlwind. And we just stayed in touch for so long. We've been friends a long time. I think, yeah, we just became like family, you know. And I got to go to Iowa.

Like, I'd never been to Iowa before. Like, I remember that my first time over there, I can't remember where I was staying. But I remember, like, the highlight of my week other than rehearsing was, like, walking to Applebee's in the snow. walking to Appleby. Yeah, like, yeah, for sure walking to Applebyes. Yeah. You can't go anywhere. There was nowhere to go.

I remember being excited that Slipknot was from Des Moines, Iowa. That was the other thing I was excited about. But that season was just, it was so fun. Like, it was a blast. It feels like a lifetime ago, you know. But when I think of it now, like, it was just a good time. I don't know. I can't speak for you, Sean, but I think we had a good time.

We had fun. I had a blast. I had a blast. I would say, yes, Danny was amazing. I would say the coolest thing now watching you guys together is really, really, really, like, sweet and sentimental because you are like a big brother. And I got to meet girlfriends over the years because we met in 2008. And to see you guys together starting in two. 2012 12 when you probably met me in 2013 or like at the very tail end of 12 yeah but it was just

it was just seamless it's like you're such a creative person and to see how you work like in the business world and like with your family and to see how people have kind of come in and out of your lives and just haven't worked but then to see bc i was like yeah this is it is it and it was just really special and I think the thing that I love about you guys is you are so creative and you're so supportive of each other and to hear you guys talk about each other when you aren't around is like the cutest sweetest most amazing thing I've ever witnessed in my life and it is it's like a it's like a proud little sister I'm like okay yeah that makes the feeling is mutual like I remember the first time getting to hang with Andrew and like spending time with you guys

and like we come to Nashville a lot we're always writing there and we always try to make time to see you guys or we end up staying with you guys um even if we don't stay with you i remember that i remember that uh that's one of the first trips when we came to see you guys and we i can't we were playing we were playing some hilarious we were playing like guess that got wild that yeah beat shazam we were playing that i bought two athletes playing with two musicians is not fair oh man you would hear like the first note i just remember i just remember leaving that trip and i was like man that was so fun yeah i i andra love you we have such a good vibe and shan you know i love like should we move to nashville so we can do that i mean don't tease i still

waiting for you to do that's what i'm saying you started it it was your fault we liked you guys we like hanging out we're like we need to move here we still need to yeah we love we love coming out there and seeing you guys and it's uh babies can grow up together i know they i know and now you have baby It's crazy. Our dogs got along and now we'll see if our babies are going to have to get along. Wait. I have two hard-hitting questions that I really don't want to miss before our time is up. Okay.

To put you guys on the spot now that we know your love story, what are you most nervous about and most excited about with baby? So let's start there. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first? Most nervous about. I'm most excited about. I think there's a lot of things to be nervous and excited about.

I think it's like the, yeah, there's lots to be nervous about. I'm trying to take an optimistic point of view on this whole like labor thing. But that's scary. The whole, I'm trying to do it without, you know, meds and the whole thing. I'm trying to do natural. So I think it's just, I've never done this before. So it's just all new. And then once that happens, then we have to keep the baby alive.

You know, it's just like what lots of unknown. I suppose, but I'm also really excited about that. I've always wanted to be a mom. And I think I've seen this baby, like, what sides of him and what sides of me and what we're going to see what the baby's going to teach us, you know, what kind of personality. I don't know. The whole thing is just really cool. Yeah, nervous about and excited about, man,

And it's so layered. It's so hard to pick one, you know what I mean? It's just like, I just want to be as present as possible and enjoy every moment of this, you know, and again, collaborate, hear each other, keep the communication going. And yeah, yeah, I'm so curious. I'm excited to meet baby and see personalities and like, oh, that's your mom right there. oh, that was so me. You know what I mean? Like, and just figuring it out together on how to navigate life and the world.

And, you know, I definitely, I don't know, like, I definitely want to make sure that baby gets to, like, do some of the things that we used to do when we were kids and, like, be present and ride bikes and be outside and do all that. Yeah, all of it, man. Like, I'm ready for all of it. We, um, you know. I'm excited to see Hendricks become a big brother. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, we're all of it.

Like I welcome all of it. I, we're going to, we're excited to do this together. Um, it's time. And yeah, we'll see. Like, ask me, I'll be have a better answer for you like a year from now. Okay. Second question is you guys are, we're both saying you're excited to see their personality and what they kind of turn into.

What do you hope? this baby takes from both of you? Like, Mark, what traits do you hope this baby gets from B.C. And B.C., what do you hope they get from Mark? I hope that baby gets B.C.'s ability to just roll with it. That's something I sometimes struggle with. To just, it depends on the situation. I'm good at rolling with it in certain situations,

but like like i think i had such a scheduled um upbringing you know so sometimes i can get in my own way with things like oh it's like making it's got to be this way you know and i admire and love what i love about bc most is that she just handles things as they come and she can just roll with it she doesn't worry about something that's not even here you know so i just really hope that that'd be a waste of time yeah like i really hope baby can just like have get her by on that, you know, and not be late. I get her vibe with that and just be peaceful and just roll with it as it comes, you know, not anticipate, not look back, not look forward, really stay present in the now and what's

happening now. And yeah, you're really good at that. And I hope maybe gets Mark's passion and loyalty probably the most. Yeah, because he's the most passionate person I know and the people that he loves the most, like he would die for. So, loyalty to. I can't, I can't believe I'm saying this now to other people, but Jett just rode his bike for the first time with no training. Oh, we saw. We saw.

That is amazing. Which, that was a milestone that I was so excited about before we even started thinking about kids. Like, I can't wait until my kid rides a bike. And then it comes and it goes, and it goes by so fast. Not usually it too. Yeah, that's a record. Yeah, that's weird. But it's like such a challenge to stay present and to keep that mindset.

Because you're also in a phase of life when you're having kids, like right in the thick of your career, usually. There's more opportunities there than probably any other time in your life in responsibilities in some senses. But then there's also this thing, this moment that you'll never get people. with kids that it's like a tug of war with your time so yeah anyway steward it well bro and and savor every moment i know you will yeah yeah who is it someone said the other day be uh the days are long but the years are short i think was the quote someone said to me the other day and i just like like hit really hard like i could cry yeah like it's just like wow you know and we we talk about it all the time like just how like we blinked like our wedding feels like yesterday

but also so long ago or like when we, I don't know, just the older you get, the, you know, time just moves. I remember being young in my 20s and my dad would say things like that to me. I'd be like, ah, okay. And now I'm that guy that's like, it goes so fast, you know. So, yeah, you're right. Being present is something that we are, we talk about constantly. It's something I really want to make a priority, you know, because like, you know, we, we don't know what the future holds.

this could be our only child or we might have more if we don't know but you're right like start with this one i just want to be i want to feel and be there for every second of this and be the be there for each other as well yeah yeah how many songs have you guys written together how many songs have written oh man a lot a lot a lot how many have we released how many released yeah like um no more than that now i think but um we actually we actually just um we just wrote one for baby that's coming out soon and it's called So Small I'll send you a private link

because it's not out yet but I feel like I don't know You comes out in a couple days Come down a couple days Yeah yeah see time I'll send you a private link Because I'd love to know as parents Like it what it

Like if it hits you How it hits us Oh we should have played it for them on here And watch their reaction It won't sound as good music too You gotta have the experience But I want to send it to you guys And you tell me like as a

Wait maybe film you'll your reaction. Oh, yeah. Maybe we could start doing, we could use some contact. But for us, as new parents, like, it hits home for us. Like, I listen to it and I get, uh, he can't listen to it. I get misty-eyed and she points in laughing. And I film him laughing.

I'm excited. I still love roses are red. Oh, yeah. Yeah, y'all. inside joke yeah we got a couple of those with these yeah man and babies love that song it's like a lullaby for babies yeah so it's multi-functional okay that's how babies are made okay that's why they love it that's why they love that is that how this one was made no are you uncomfortable yeah i am i am i am you can just name this baby or gene

Wait, go ahead, Andrew. It's just giggles every time we hang. Always giggles. I love it. Remember, what was that one time we came to stay with you all, and we played that card game? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

What was that game? The wolf? Yeah, we're a wolf. That was fun. And the code names. I love that game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that was a great game.

I love our game nights. Yeah, me too. I miss those. We love you guys. We love this little baby. We are so excited. meet them um by the way i say them because people always think when i say them they're like are they twins i'm like no i just don't never know what to call them um and i'm so excited we finally got

you on the show it's only taking us like what three years guys yeah yeah oh my gosh well thank you for thank you for having us we love you guys so much and we miss you yeah hopefully we'll get over to nashville soon or if you guys come visit you know i don't know we have the baby tonight say again I said I hope you have the baby tonight ooh it's possible tonight I'm like

what do I have to do tonight we are for those listening that for those listening that want to hear Mark and B.C.'s song called Rainbow and also so small you'll link it down below and

links are other socials as well but Alexander Jean is their band it's amazing and would highly recommend you checking it out. So Mark B.C. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you guys. We love y'all.