Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 209 | getting through the "roommate" phase

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

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And the things they go through. We got so many questions related to us as a family of five that we had to split it into two parts. So we're back to answer. more questions about the chaos in our home. Babe, we've done almost 210 episodes of a couple things. That's wild. We've been one a week for like five years, four years, four years. That's pretty impressive.

Good work, babe. Thank you, you too. And when we started this, we had zero kids. We were a family of two, plus a dog, no shade Nash. Family three, we'll say family three. No, when we started this, we had one kid. No, you're right. Sorry, yeah, you're right.

We did. It was just, we had just had our first kid. We did. We did. It was the week after our first kid was born, that couple of things was also born. And here we are. Here we are. We were just running through some numbers of the show for 2023, doing our year in review, which you might say, you guys, it's March or April, whenever this is going live.

Why are you just now doing your year in review? Because we had a baby, and there's been other things that are more pressing. But we published 52 episodes last year. and they got an average of 151,000 views per episode that's amazing it's pretty good over yeah over 151,000 that's amazing pretty excited about that we have big plans for the podcast this year so stay tuned uh there's going to be some some changes some updated logos there's going to be some fun topics some fun travel involved and we are doing a live show in may it's not a couple things show

but Sean and Andrew are going to be at the I Am Mom Summit May 10th, Salt Lake City, Utah we'll link it down below It's an amazing event Yeah, we've been a part of it for four or five years Yes

So if you're a mom looking for a fun weekend Salt Lake City is a beautiful It's a celebration, it's educational It brings together community It's a lot of fun This will probably be the only live event we do So if you want to come say what's up please do we had like four or five hundred people there last year and it was a blast anyway i digress

let's answer questions that were submitted by the audience about us as a family of five yeah first up how do we continue to be intimate with three kids in the house when you say intimate you mean i think they mean what you think they mean make it die that does not surprise me that that's the first question it doesn't surprise me either how would you answer that uh it's definitely like it becomes a logistical issue in some ways you know you're either going early in the morning or late at night and we go to bed at 830 so we're either going early in the morning I think we snuck one sometime during the afternoon am I right am I remembering that right I think so gotta just go lock the door when there's child care there is that better or worse

That's worse. We were definitely the only ones at the house. And the kids were napping. Everybody was a nap. That's what it was. Thank you for clarifying. Yeah, definitely not when child care was at the house. That is weird.

So to answer your question, though, it's definitely a little difficult, more difficult. It is. Yeah. I think it gets easier as the kids get older, but maybe not. I don't know. We don't have old kids yet. We have kids that stay in their room, which is great. Yeah, there's a phase for everything,

and this is not the phase for naked all the time, time. That's fine. Number two, how do we know we were ready for a third baby? I've been questioning, well, I've been questioning this every day. Whether they're ready for a third baby. Yeah. For us, I don't know if you're ever ready. I just knew that someone was missing in our family.

And I think maybe selfishly, I made myself ready sooner than, I don't know how to say this, than I actually was because I wanted to get through the process of my body, if that makes sense. You wanted to have a bunch of kids close together. I wanted our kids to be close in age for like the social dynamic.

I wanted to be able to like get through, another pregnancy at a earlier age. I don't know. It was kind of a self-decision, but I also was, yeah, I wanted to get it over with. I don't know how to say that pregnancy. That's going to make me sound horrible. The baby phase is super intense,

the diaper phase and all of it. So it's like, I was actually thinking about this the other day in the car. It's so hard to do it like this. You know, if you wait for your first kid to be four, or five years old and then you have another baby like you're not simultaneously raising two kids in the same way you know so spacing it out i think does uh disperse the load a little bit we kind of just crammed it all in there together we did and i think the hopeful result what we're banking on

based off of my experience growing up and from i guess mentors of ours is like it's going to be a tough couple years uh but when they grow up then it'll be like really really really fun there'll be they'll be close the family dynamics will be like you know we'll all be doing similar activities and events at similar levels so we kind of knew we wanted three and we weren't really ready is what you're saying we it's a really hard question to answer like we both knew we wanted another one we didn't really know when we got pregnant with jet when drew turned a year when jet if you're tracking this when jet turned one year old i knew i wasn't ready yet i like still needed more time to work on my health and work on my mind and get under control so when jet was like a year and a half

it felt more under control to start trying and we're glad we did yeah little babies man third question what's been your favorite thing about your spouse with baby number three i think The favorite thing has been watching you with the Biggs with Drew and Jet. It's been really fun to see you kind of take on your new role and being like super hands-on with them all day, every day while I have the baby. So it's been really cool to watch. I appreciate that. I'm amazed that Sean has created these family systems and schedules and, getting all the kids to the right place and how do you make that work like I think she did a lot of front-end work and now to see how we're benefiting from that where we're with our kids a really healthy amount of time they're with other kids a really healthy amount of time they're learning they're getting out of the house they're having fun they're playing all the things and just to I guess we're almost like reaping the benefits now so it's just I guess my favorite thing is being impressed with how

you've structured things for our family thank you thank you the kid just did ice skating for the first time last night yeah it was amazing it was amazing I was sitting there thinking it was the best day of my life watching them it was like you know they've been on ice maybe two times for a total of 10 minutes each yeah and we don't know how to I did not grow up ice skating that whole world is super new to me Drew went out there and was like timid and adorable listening and you know fall on the the straight line when she was asked to and jet was just like sprinting falling all the time we only knew of like the opportunity because my dad played hockey

for 20 years so I remember him bringing it up to me multiple times like you should look into ice skating lessons especially for jet like hockey would be really physical for him um are you saying that word word hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey I say hockey hockey hockey

hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey hockey I don't know but it was really cool

my dad went with me on Drew's first lesson so it was like me and my dad and Drew it was so special and then when we came home I was like Andrew you have to go to the next one and we're going to take the whole family

and they let Jet try and it was really really special I don't know if either of them will have a passion for ice skating but as of right now they both love it they're interesting and I think like the earlier you can introduce the kids to something

the better it will set them up for success also something I'm noticing this is side tangent to parents of young ones I think I might have made a little mistake not that I want Drew to be a part of gymnastics I don't care if that's what she loves but gymnastics was a very

first thing that you could do age-wise like in Nashville they have like this little program where they can go for a couple hours it's almost like a daycare um i think i might have burnt her out of it because they because that was the only place they could go they went so often and it's really cool with ice skating now they can only go once a week and they're just like itching to go back once a week it's kind of like a it's a fun treasure hunt to see what they're interested in see what they like doing it's so fun fourth question how on earth do you take bear with you on date nights my six week old would be screaming the whole time um a little colicky six week old um I don't know it just kind of worked we don't take him on date nights anymore but I think we took him on

probably six or seven the first seven weeks our date nights are shorter now like hour and a half two hours we also do it around his bedtime so like we're home before it's time to put him down for bed we take a bottle I nurse

yeah we usually try to time it so that when we're going to dinner he's like eaten and it usually it's like time for him to sleep and so I just hold him and he sleeps but it was one of our first date nights we went to go at sushi and bear was really fussy um and it was definitely disruptive to our normal date

night uh but i think the way i viewed it at least was hey weren't like we probably won't get uninterrupted conversation here tonight or even for a while weeks you know with the newborn and two other kids running around the house it's hard to have a dedicated conversation but it's like it's the practice of going on date night we dressed up we liked that uh exercise and it was like a change up from that postpartum fog with a newborn so i think it's just like adjust your expectations thing go on the date and realize that it's not going to be maybe a easy flowing conversation because you know there will be a baby there just changing your expectations for sure uh number five Did you have an ideal timeline of mine for the space between these child?

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life phases they're all in is really, really fun. So I kind of knew I wanted that. What about you? Yeah. My siblings are like 18, 22 months apart from each other and we're pretty close. So in my mind, it was as close together as possible. We had our first baby. I realized from our doctor that we couldn't try for the second baby until Drew was one. So then that kind of set our timeline for us. So it was like as soon as healthily possible. It's fun. I mean, but there's cost and benefits to all of it. If you have spaced out kids,

probably be a little easier parenting, maybe. No, there's no such thing as easy. Who am I kidding? But there are pros and cons. Six, how have you changed as a parent with each child? I, as of right now, have been feeling like with each kid I've been fighting this feeling of going I don't know it's like two people that I'm like fighting and it's me wanting to be have like my time be like an entrepreneur go get her work really hard but also be a mom at the same time and I feel like with Drew I was able to balance that pretty well where I could still have my work life with jet i still felt like i could have that with bear i feel like this is the first time

i'm getting to a phase where i don't really care about work and i don't mean that in like a harsh way because i love what we do but it's like the priority i feel so consumed with our kids right now that and they're obviously like the most important thing so it's just like the how full your buckets are. I'm kind of like redistributing. Yeah. You're doing a great job. We're definitely still figuring it out. If I can help, let me know. But you might be sitting there thinking, well, what is it that you even do for work? And I think it's best to break it down into kind of buckets. So in one bucket is we film a ton of content. We put out over 2,000 pieces of content last year, podcast, newsletters, short form, YouTube videos, a bunch of stuff. A bunch of

stuff right so we're we're doing media one then we have a bunch of calls with like other founders the other bucket founders of companies we like do consulting we also do media for them sean sits on boards yeah so there's like meetings is how on a week-to-week basis we break it down we have a team of people who help produce content help manage the schedule help edit the content make you know relevant ideas share all the stuff on different platforms managing that is another way we spend our time and then appearances traveling going places is is kind of the fourth bucket you put out of that together it's like we could be we could be spending a hundred hours a week working if we wanted to and sometimes if it it is really exciting to think like oh wow oh we got

we got an appearance request in Dubai and then they wanted us in Israel and then we could fit that and like go from Israel to Colorado and then back to Paris those are all real opportunities and then you think wait I am a little more prone to like FOMO and getting caught up in the excitement take a step back you're like whoa what do we actually want these next couple years to look like and I think in my mind it's like you have four or five years of this magic age where my daughter thinks that I'm a king or a prince and we're dancing and balancing those two worlds it's very difficult. I also think it's going to stay like that because the first five years are magical because

they're so little and you get so much time with them but then they go off to school full time but yet it's so important to be like a part of that period of life as much as possible like I don't know I don't know it's crazy guys it's crazy we don't know what to do

at the moment how have we change as a parent I think one is as you have more if this is the size of your plate I think your plate kind of can grow but the stuff on your plate definitely grows and so there's less margin for other things there's less margin for air and like communication

and getting caught up in different things. And so at some point, stuff starts getting squeezed off the plate. So that's one thing, too, I guess is a derivative of that, where you start really thinking about priorities and perspective. And then the third thing that I'm really excited about is you can't control at all. So I think in a lot of ways, I was just talking to my cousin who's thinking about having a third kid. And he's like, well, I just want to make sure that I'm being the best parent I can to the two kids that I have. And I feel like we have another one, I won't be able to be as present or involved or, you know, engaged.

And I'm like, I think in some way, optimizing parenting can look like stepping back. You know, it's like kind of healthy for the kids to have a little domain that they can play in, make mistakes in, learn. So it's always a constant battle. number seven i will add to that too it's like i still haven't figured out how to prioritize each kid right now i felt like with two kids i we had figured out how to like give enough attention to each of them and i think that's where i've changed as a parent right now is the logistical side of my of trying to make sure that all of our kids are equally tended to is a lot. But it's been fun.

Okay. Number seven. Do you feel like you went through the roommate phase with each other after having a baby? If so, how did you get out of it? I think you used those words verbatim. Me? Yeah. Yeah.

I would say we did. go through the roommates phase explain what the roommate's phase is for those listening and myself I think the roommates phase is natural to happen

after a baby you go from being husband and wife pre-baby to being just mom and dad who are working on taking care of a little baby and your life gets really full and filled

with like the new life that you're trying to figure it out, figure out. So instead of being husband and wife, you're only mom and dad. And so you kind of forget about the husband and wife side. So it's like roommates. Like you're sharing a house. You're raising a kid together.

You're trying to figure out, hey, who's going to do this just tonight? Or, you know, break down the chores. And it's less of, uh, romantic friendship maybe it's more like business and getting back to the like lovey-dovey husband and wife and seeing your spouse as like not just dad not just like oh here's your list of things that we have to get done today you're sleeping with the baby I'm sleeping with the bigs make sure you get the grocery like it's roommates it's just like a list of to-dos that was one thing that changed my perspective i think about often when there was a phase where i was like sean

you're such a great mom you're doing such a great like anytime i'd give her praise it'd be like you're it all all be mom focused and you were like hey i also want to be your friend and your wife how do you get out of it the roommate's face i don't know i think we're still in it by tvd if you got ideas let us know sean how do you feel Sean do you feel like you put a lot of pressure on with breastfeeding has this changed over time yeah a lot of pressure um breastfeeding is really hard and we kind of live in a world in society that puts a lot of pressure on moms to do it in any way shape or form you can i had a really hard breastfeeding journey with drew where being a first time mom i didn't really know what i was doing at all i didn't know about lactation consultants

I didn't nothing so she had a really hard time latching so I ended up exclusively pumping which is so hard and I did that for six months and then Jett nursed really well and I made it to six months and then dried up like instantly so I think I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself with bear to get to at least six months to give them equal opportunity I have a couple friends that are determined to breastfeed as long as possible. I do not feel that way. I know that it puts a lot of stress on you that is frustrating, that I can't help it all.

So I'm kind of like, yo, let me bottle feed as soon as you're comfortable with it. It's just, it's also really hard because once you start breastfeeding, it's such a task to stop, and it's such a task to, pump and it's such a task to like there are times during the day where Andrew will say like let me just feed him a formula bottle and I would love that but then in the back of my head I'm like

well I'm going to have to pump no matter what now which takes time and then cleaning the pump parts and now getting my body back on schedule for him it's just like it's just like constantly an equation in my head, so it's a lot. You're doing great. Thank you. Okay, next one. What is one thing each of your children have taught you? Wow.

Drew teaches me to be, to slow down, to be more empathetic, to explain things better. and not brush things off. She's such a little feeler. And every, she has to like understand everything. Why did that?

Or why did you do this? It's not just like impulsive and fun to her. It's like she has to understand it. And it can be so easy as a parent to like brush that off. But she's really taught me how to, the importance of like slowing down to teach and explain and dig in. to something for me it's because of that same trait she has of listening so well it's an accuracy of my words and not saying anything just trying to be really diligent with saying what I mean

not saying what I don't mean and like you know I need to be kind to or strategic in a lot of like teaching her of the alphabet or colors it's like how do I how do I capture her attention for as long as possible without making her feel too much the center of attention it's like it's been a good mental challenge like puzzle because she's so sensitive she's hilarious too I would say jet I saw Jet taught me this but then it was like reiterated

and a Instagram meme whatever of the importance of like embracing how wild and wide open and free he is I feel like I can be like a

clench my fist type person and try to like hold on to the rain and control things and with him he's so free and wild and wants to just dive headfirst into the mud and do all the wild stuff and I think it's really important for me as his mom to do it with him and not hold back let's get down and dirty in the bugs let's fall on our butt a thousand and times on the ice and laugh it off like really getting in there with him and being wide open and free yeah i like that a lot he's so excited in this beautiful innocent way for so much and sometimes you're an inclination is like no i don't want to we have to if we go outside and

play in the snow we have to get our already and put our snowsuits on in the boots and the gloves and the hats and the whole thing or do you really want to go on a bike ride right now because then that means we have to get our shoes and then our helmets and then uh you know whatever there's like there's like all the logistics of it and i have been challenged to just overcome that hurdle of what what would i rather be doing sitting on a couch cuddling we don't even have cuddly kids at all they're not cuddly at all maybe maybe because of us but like just saying yes because it's pretty harmless ask and it's a really fun way to be involved with their interests and bear for me I just get lost in that guy's eyes and smile

He's like I think what he's taught me is Man the whole thing goes by so quick He's going to probably be our last baby Drew is four and a half now How can I just be as present as possible Get lost in his eyes Look at his smile

I love it I'd say bear has taught me Humility I think there was part of us with a third kid that thought we had figured it out and that it would be a breeze and he kind of humbled us from day one and being so different than the other two

in every way, shape, and form. So I've just been humbled by him in the greatest way. Wouldn't want it any other way. What are some of your older kids' favorite activities to keep them occupied for longer than a few minutes? pool's been clutch yeah bikes have been clutch

they ride the strider bikes or we'll go outside sandbox was big trampoline art table was huge Santa brought an art table for Christmas this year and it's just filled with like crayons markers funky scissors

you know like the zigzag scissors and stuff different paper and they love it yeah our strategy has kind of just been like set up a pretty free environment that all the super harmful things are removed from and just let them run wild do whatever they want to do so like sometimes they'll play family which has been adorable like a new thing they've been doing sometimes they'll play hot wheels jet will just take a car and put it on the wall but it's like we actually have had the most success in doing activities that they that they started

It's not like, hey, let's set up this whole thing for you. It's whatever they have grown to be interested in that they'll do the longest. Sidewalk jock. Sidewalk chalk. It's a huge one. Science experiments. Oh, yeah. That's for sure the best.

So fun. Do you feel like you're getting less strict with each child? Yeah, we've alluded to it a couple times with the plate, with the control concept. Drew was definitely like first kid We had our ways We had our boundaries We enforced them You know

We were stricter with the schedule A bunch of that I feel like we are pretty strict On our most important boundaries Like kindness, manners Like obedience to a certain extent but as far as like scheduling and stuff we're getting less strict yeah we used to have to have drew down for a nap in the right environment like blackout curtains sound machine crib with the sleep sack or whatever and now it's like bear sleeps in the car seat during day night it's great yeah you kind of just realize what's important what the kid's capable of and how you can figure out life between the lines have you had any emotional breakdown since having bear what were they about yes uh i think it's

normal to have emotional breakdowns it's a massive massive transition and a lot for moms to go through and dads um what were they about being overwhelmed feeling like i couldn't manage at all feeling like i was failing at it feeling under-equipped to, like, figure out bears' needs. I had emotional breakdown because I missed the big kids. I missed my husband. You know, a lot of them. You're doing a great job.

Thank you. When did you start to feel yourself again after having each baby, mentally, physically, emotionally, et cetera. We say four months, and we're not there yet if that answers your question. Yeah.

Do your kids ever go through abiding, pushing, hitting stage with each other or bear? What did you do? We're doing one, two, three, magic, which actually has worked phenomenally well, and it's a really good, I think, discipline for the parent.

as well, where it prevents, it gives you a mechanism to not just have to default to like your emotional yelling or whatever, like grabbing, it's like, okay, I have a tool in my tool box, go sit on the stairs for however old you are. And so a minute for every year. Yeah, and the kids, Jet is started

when he was really two and understands it now. So that's been crucial. We have, yes, there's been head. butt's not too much biting because we talked about that a lot because they bit us yeah not to not each other and I also think we're super fortunate Sean that Drew is so patient with jet yeah jet like tackles Drew and it's not like an aggressive hit that'll happen sometimes but she's kind of just goes with it so I think our kids um have helped us out in that sense yeah the one two three magic is great because it basically

teaches it teaches a parent how to react what works and what doesn't so it basically strips you of your emotion and you're teaching kids like you basically give them warnings or cues of that they've done something not great so if jet goes against something that we've said or a rule you say like okay that's that's one and it tells him to rethink whatever he's doing and if you manage to get to three they sit on the stairs and it teaches them this like cushion except for violence violence is an automatic three correct yeah um but yeah we we just talk about it a lot and we try not to respond emotionally which is really hard to do um okay do you currently go to marriage

counseling we just started yeah we've gone to we've gone to did pre-metal counseling which is amazing we should talk about that at some point actually changed our whole perspective then we did kind of one-off counseling but we're going to do this more consistent program which I'm excited about me too would you recommend couples go to marriage counseling before kids or after um always I think it's really good for maintenance I think it's really good for teaching um just how to like understand each other better yeah we've always said it's better to go to counseling when things are good so that things don't get bad yeah i'm uh i'm continually humbled by you said this with the kids it's like you think you got to

figure it out and like you think you got marriage figured out but then whatever you lose a loved one and then there's just new dynamic grief or you have another kid and there's this new dynamic of another life or big life decisions like a new job or do we move locations pop up or whatever you know even like political cycles come up and all the conversations you'd never had before pop up and it's like uh you it isn't ever changing ever dynamic exercise of marriage and and it really is quite the conundrum trying to figure out like okay I have so much that I need to work on. So what's the appropriate way for you to navigate that while dealing with the consequences of what I need to work on?

Having patience and giving me space while I'm working on that. Communicating when I'm stepping on your toes with whatever's wrong. It's like, yeah, it's, I don't even, I think counseling always. Yeah, counseling always. Right? I think you just, life is never the same, so. And we talk a lot, dude. We talk, I think, probably more than the, we have a podcast together.

Like, we're working through so many issues, and people don't have that luxury. And we need it. So if we need it, maybe you need it. But I'm not pointing fingers. What's been one of the best days we've had as a family of five? Hmm. Went on a couple walks? Oh no

It had to be a weekend I feel like it was Two or three weekends ago Farmers market Pool It was nice weather We sat outside That's what's beautiful

About this phase of life It's like Nothing spectacular It needs to happen You could sit there in the playroom Giggling with each other And that'd be the best day And I think that's what it's been

For me Same Just a day Spent together Nothing wild just a day spent together. Did we tell them about our family exercise that we did, the workshop? Tim's new scrambled egg loaded croissant, or is it croissant?

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Let's rehash our family values since you just said one of them. Togetherness? Yes. Family time. Faith. Generous stewardship. I don't know that. The last one, come on.

This is what we need. We need it. Playfulness. Playfulness. Those are the East Family Five values. I think it was four What That was four

And togetherness Togetherness family time generous stewardship Faith And playfulness Okay Yeah Anyway

We could talk about that more Sean As an only child What's something you're excited about In terms of your kids Having siblings Having each other as adults I

Being an only child Have gone through so many different phases of life, lived in so many different areas, and had to spend a lot of time building friendships that are amazing in the closest we could ever be, but they'll never be siblings. And I think having that community of like a sibling relationship as an adult is so cool and so important nieces nephews like everything yeah if you're able to have a strong relationship with your sibling i don't think there's any better relationship like the depth sorry friendship the depth of knowledge the shared experiences it's a it's amazing like yeah it's

really special uh 19 do you think i love this do you think bear will keep his blue eyes since he's the only one no not a chance the amount of people who have actually been in our house even like nurses who are like a hundred percent he's keeping his blue eyes there's no chance there is a chance my dad had blue eyes your mom has blue eyes there's a chance but both drew and jet had like crystal blue eyes to the time that they were like six months well see literally chris jet had crystal blue eyes no last question what's the difference between how drew treats bear as a sister versus how jet treats him as a brother true i actually think they treat him very similarly they're both super sweet to him generally jet naturally is just more physical like he's just

he's so strong and physical that you have to teach him how to be overly gentle proportionately to his size and strength but I really do think they treat him very very similar they're both so gentle so calm so loving and nurturing in the ways that they think

that they believe is nurturing if that makes sense if there's a difference I think Drew does act a little bit more like a mom so like she'll sit there and play with toys like she watches you play with toys and Jet Jet kind of says like oh it's okay

with this big old mitt hands but like Jet tried to do something really sweet today and tried to give bear water and basically waterboard to them and this was like literally as we're watching him trying to like teach him like no no no no and then out of nowhere he just dumps a whole can of water

on his face but yes I think they treat him very similarly yeah what a ride um what a ride we're gonna do

a couple more of these solos and um we are in this is not the jolly phase of of life it doesn't seem we're figuring a lot out

but the way I navigate it is by knowing and it's a phase you know so we're going to continue sharing podcasts as long as we're good and that's a broad word good uh and and hopefully walk through some of those phases with you because based out these questions it seems like we're all in it together so we are it ain't always fun but it's always worth it right anyway thanks for listening this is

is our 200 something episode which is wild really fun we got at least another 200 to go you think so yeah all right please if you have any advice for us leave a comment down below we are on YouTube Spotify Apple Podcasts

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