Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 211 | answering inappropriate questions
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Honestly, I don't know if I am ready for this.
Are you ready for this?
Y'all got some weird, very consistent questions.
This was our idea to do this episode, though, I guess.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to A cup of things.
A podcast all about couples
And the things they go through
You forgot a part
It is
A couple of things with Sean and Andrew
Did I really?
We totally did the intro wrong there
Try it again
What's up everybody
Welcome back to a couple things
With Sean and Andrew
Are you okay
Do you say that?
You want to try it third thing
What's up everybody
Welcome back to a couple things
With Sean and Andrew
A podcast all about couples
And the things they go through
Okay
this one will be interesting
I have yet to look at your guys's comments
but I can probably guess what you guys want to know
this is the never TMI styled podcast
I'm so confident that we're going to get asked
how often and how do we have
hunky dory time yeah
how naked time
with three kids how often do we
do the deed
what is it bump cheeks is that the
Is that too crappy?
Bump cheeks.
I'm trying to think of the euphemisms.
I'm picturing two butt cheeks bumping.
Well, don't think too hard about it.
Okay.
Does it?
We wanted to do this because you guys ask a lot of questions.
And yeah, we, yeah, why not?
I don't know.
There was a whole podcast called Never TMI.
And honestly, Sean and I do.
subscribe to the, there is a TMI mindset.
So we're going to answer these cordially.
Yep.
And with taste.
And the Sean and Andrew way.
But we did want to answer these because you asked them a lot.
And we wanted to be a little bit different than like an ask us anything, Q&A.
Yeah.
Basically everything we weeded out normally, we just said, whatever, throw them in.
Throw them in there.
We'll make it interesting.
So there were some wild.
ones. Shall we start? And weird
ones. Oh wow. Okay. This first one
is not what I expected. Yeah.
What is the last thing you both
cried about?
Like both at the same time
or just like individually, do you think?
What was the last time we both cried at the same time?
Rarely happens.
I remember the both
the last time we both cried and I remember the last
time I cried and then
the last time you cried. Okay.
The last time we both
cried this is being vulnerable i apologize for this we can edit this out later if it's too
vulnerable but you and i were having a really hard time post postpartum trying to understand
each other trying to like figure out why we weren't like connecting well and there was arguments
and like i think it was just this head of desperation you and i were both crying and i remember
We were both crying because I said,
I wish we could just call your dad.
Yeah.
That was when we both cried.
I remember that.
Yeah.
We've had some really beautiful
realizations about marriage recently.
Yeah, we have.
That Sean and I are each really,
well, I'll speak for myself,
that I'm,
I have a long way to go, as they say.
So do I.
A lot of room for improving.
movement and it's kind of a refreshing it hurts to get there and realize like dang i'm going to hurt
sean but it's also really freeing to know like all right we're going to do it together and we'll
figure it out yeah because i can also love her better than anybody else anyway i actually cried this
morning with dave wow yeah we had a uh family friend's father died who we had gotten to know pretty well
And we just sat and had a good cry, which honestly I'm here for it.
It's kind of been like the last 15 months.
I've really embraced just, you know, set a timer, 15 minutes, listen to the sad songs, let the tears out.
And then you're like, okay.
And I think it was last night.
I cried.
Last night?
Remember at the dining table?
We were talking about, was that last night or two nights, two nights ago?
I was just talking about raising our kids and I just kept saying like, I don't know what
I'm doing and it's really scary and thinking about like my issues that I've gone through
in my life and like how do you not pass those on to your kids parenting yeah parenting is
non-stop fun I think we're crying a lot more though 100% um I think that's a lot of it is just out
of sleep deprivation or not sleep deprivation exhaustion let me make that
you know,
distinction.
I disagree with you for the cause.
Okay.
I think we've kind of just like,
we've realized it's kind of good to feel that.
And we've been like, quote unquote,
tough for so long.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, it's at a certain point,
you have to open up a little bit.
And it means a lot more now in this phase of life.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, that was good for one.
All right.
No, two.
We're,
were you self-conscious.
after having a baby when you're intimate
with your husband?
100%.
You're self-conscious?
Yeah.
Why?
I think it's a natural
course you go through, but like
our bodies do wild things
after having babies.
Or having babies. Like,
pregnancy and postpartum
and like, there's just so much
that goes on.
on and I think we it's because we live in this culture that like over sexualizes the like
vanity of bodies does that make sense that you these doubts creep in postpartum and I'm not feeling
great already where it's like is all this mushyness at all attractive what's wild is I've never had
that thought literally not once and I hope that you get to a point where you can be as impressed
with your body as I am thank you and while we're waiting for you to get there don't let
those self-conscious thoughts be a barrier to love or intimacy and all the definitions of that
word.
Thank you.
You're tracking.
Yeah.
I love you.
I love you, baby.
You're the most beautiful I've ever seen you.
And I think it's because I've gotten to know you more.
Thank you, baby.
And you're also a hot mama.
Bump cheeks with you.
We're all going to get old and I'm excited.
I just kind of want to let it get all wrinkly and saggy and gray.
Yeah.
You on board with that?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, you know.
I was still doing my stuff.
Next up, what made us sign up for marriage counseling?
There were some, marriage is so interesting.
Because we've been married for eight years.
And like, it's a good marriage, right?
It's a great marriage.
Yeah, I agree.
But then there would be certain things that came up
that my first thing to think would always be defensive about.
She'd be like, I feel like you're doing this.
And I'd be like, I'm not doing this.
doing that. Quit saying that. And then at a certain point, I was like, you know what? I actually
don't think I have the right perspective to know whether I am doing that or not. And I don't want
to do that if it hurt you. So let's try to go to a third party to get it fixed. You know what I'm
saying? Yeah. And I would say the same thing was happening for me. I felt like to like zoom out a little bit
we had our first kid we went through rough transition figured it out we had our second kid we knew that
that was coming so i felt like we were able to navigate it a little better still went through it because
the transition is just rough third kid we're like i know this is coming how are we going to navigate it
and i feel like we just kind of got to a point in our marriage where the repetition of
disagreements or defensiveness or
like it felt too much
like deja vu for both of us
what I was trying to say wasn't getting across what he was trying to say
wasn't getting across and you're so tired by the third kid
it's kind of like okay instead of just skirting this issue
and waiting for the next round let's just let's go figure it out
does that make sense and it wasn't like super bad
I don't mean it that way.
It's just like, you can only have the same argument enough times where it's like, let's just go figure out what the issue is.
Yeah.
I think you said on a previous podcast, we're not in a place of desperation.
And so we're getting counseling to keep it that way.
Yes.
But one thing I've learned is being on the same page emotionally is not an efficient exercise.
It takes a long time to figure out what you're feeling individually and then for the other person to try to figure out what they're feeling and then to try to find the right words to communicate that in a way that doesn't get lost in translation.
And it's an inefficient thing that I think pre-kids, Sean and I had the time for to sit down and like have a two and a half hour conversation about, hey, this hurt my feelings.
Did you mean that?
Can you explain more or whatever?
and then you have the first kid you have a little less time second kid a little less time so then
things kind of just start stacking you got like stuff that just gets shoved in the closet kind of
and so we wanted to invest in like both an expertise and a window of time to work that out and it's
been phenomenal and this is another thing I learned I'm going to go on a tangent about I've been
thinking about what it means to be a man and what it means to be a man in a marriage. And it's like,
it's not about being perfect. It's not about being perfect. And I think I, I think I would always tell
you that I never thought that, but I felt it, right? That you got to show up every day. You got
a, you know, happy wife, happy life, and you got to do X, Y, Z. And it's like, no, I'm going to let Sean
down. So what does it mean to be a man? If you can't be perfect, okay, that kind of like,
That kind of stripped my whole foundation of the understanding
when I realized I couldn't be that for her.
So now I'm just, I'm shooting for the idea that it is a manly thing to do
to have the awareness that I have blind spots that I might not know about
and have the humility to address those blind spots in the best way that I know how.
Can I add something?
It takes courage.
It takes courage and that's what it means to be a man.
I love that.
You're speaking for yourself, which is wonderful,
but I also want to say it's just as much me on every front.
I just want to make sure that people listening,
you're painting, I don't want you to paint,
I don't want to allow you to paint this picture.
Like, it's you that we went to counseling for.
I'm glad you said that.
It was, I agree.
I'm kidding.
It's us.
And I was noticing within myself, too, that whenever we would have arguments, it's like, why am I reacting this way?
I want to fix me so that I can be a better wife to you.
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Well, what I know is I don't have any control over.
I don't have any control over you
and I probably shouldn't
it's probably healthy for me not to have any control
even though I want to have control
and be like just listen to what I say
and do what I want you know
like that's kind of the instinct
it's easier that way
that's not how it works
and it's not how it should work
because the outcome is not as beautiful
as a compromise
when we both partake in a decision
anyway so I'm trying to control
what I can control which is my partake
my my
are we unloading all of our counseling
onto these people right now
the uh
Oh, should, I have one more thought.
I can't remember.
We'll carry on.
Okay.
Moving on.
How do you go from being long distance to being together every day once you get married?
Dude, that, do you remember this?
Oh, my gosh.
The transitions were always so full of friction for us.
Always.
Oh, man.
When you get used to being independent and living life, your own particular
way and you transition to a life where you're merging to people's ways is really difficult.
Really difficult.
And it take, I would just say practice.
Like every single day, take a deep breath, figure out where you're going to compromise,
figure out how you're going to merge.
But it can't be your way or it can't be his way.
It literally has to be like your combined new lifestyle.
And that takes a while to figure out.
I agree.
I think we really got 100.
hung up on like the communicator and emotions communicating our emotions correctly so like a lot of times
if I was leaving and I was worked up or vice versa I'd be like well I'm just sad you're leaving
but it came out as like frustration or anger I remember what I was going to say I feel like one thing
that I've realized in counseling is when Sean or I get worked up about a thing instead of being
frustrated or like taking it personally approaching that with an aspect of curiosity like why does
a hotspot exist and let's talk about that well I didn't like that she brought alcohol to our
house because my parents were alcoholics strictly example that is a hypothetical example
I don't understand what's happening but I get it now yeah you get
Okay, sorry.
Anyway.
But you're going to do great with the long distance.
Yeah.
Next question.
What's been the hardest part about your marriage the last few months?
What do they call, what did that one counselor call it, a baby bomb?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, bro, you just got to, I mean, chapters come to a close and the new chapters come about.
And it's a non-stop learning process.
I would say not having enough time to figure.
everything out between us the baby bomb like your life is so consumed our lives are so consumed right
now with a transitioning dynamic within our family kind of like you were alluding to earlier where it's
like we might get 20 minutes in a day to really talk and that's you're unloading so many things
you want your quality time you want to tell each other oh you accidentally hurt my feelings oh we need
to talk about the schedule, oh, I'm actually tired.
Do you want to watch a movie?
Shoot, I forgot the groceries.
Like, there's just not enough time right now,
and that's caused more friction between us.
Yeah.
But we've thankfully done a better job
at saying no, too.
So had we not built that practice in,
I think we would have hit a hard wall,
which we kind of did.
I mean, we...
What?
Nothing.
I was thinking about our date night last night.
We tried at a new restaurant.
It was a blast.
Those Thursday nights are my favorite nights of the week.
And I was thinking, you are not, it's like a, I always love you.
Sometimes I'm frustrated with you kind of thing, right?
You're not someone that I just never get frustrated with.
So there's date nights that come and go where it's like, okay, I'm sometimes more excited
about certain date nights than others.
But I know that in order for you to be the person that I most enjoy spending time with,
I need to spend time with you.
I get to spend time with you.
That didn't come off like I wanted it to, but what I'm saying is it's a practice and to know
is to love.
And I'm just, you got to show up.
I will agree to that where we have had date.
nights where I trust in a very frustrating not healthy I'm working on this defensive way and like
you know what just go hang out with your guys tonight and that's me not doing something healthy
and just like pushing you away but it's because of our weekly date nights that we haven't allowed
ourselves to get to a place not of no return because we don't believe in that
but like that would be cut that would make it very hard to come back from they reconnect us every
week and i think it's beautiful yeah i really enjoy them yeah uh do you schedule sex in the calendar
no we put uh we put the 30 second time block in our calendar your mom might listen to this
man it's a joke i love those type of jokes i know self-deprecating i know we don't put it in the
calendar but we'll kind of talk about it we've done a
better job at talking about it like we'll kind of give each other like want want tonight like tonight
it's more so instead of scheduling it we try to give each other more notice throughout the day
so that we don't miss each other's like cues or bids at night i also think we've we've been doing
a better job at subtle key we haven't talked about this but like at noon saying oh my gosh i'm just
so tired tonight yeah or i'm so tired and i'm excited to sleep
Yeah.
And then that's like, okay, I get it.
Yeah.
Intentional or not.
Like, you know.
But part of that exercise is just communicating more.
And I was thinking about like how my natural tendency is to only communicate the things that are necessary.
Yes.
But I think what's beautiful in like a relationship.
I'm talking like if there's a sentence, the one word that summarizes the category of that sentence is,
the only thing you find necessary.
But what I'm trying to do a better job at is inviting you into the smaller things,
including, hey, I'm tired or, hey, you know, like just sharing more.
And in that process, there's more intimacy physically and emotionally.
Yeah.
Carry on.
Interesting.
Okay.
I'm saying interesting because I just got a peek at a question.
I'm very interested.
Whatever.
Okay.
Next up, have any hate comments ever really stuck with you?
Wait, what about the smoother, chunky salsa?
Wait, where?
Oh, wow.
Do you like smoother, chunky salsa?
Genuine question.
Sorry, it's not juicy.
I'll do chunky all day.
Dude, anything that's chunky, I like it.
Chunky smoothies.
He likes chunky peanut butter.
Chunky peanut butter.
Dude, it's got to have some texture, you feel me?
Chunky smoothies?
Did you say that?
No, I need my smoothie, like silk.
No.
I would say chunky salsa.
I like the tomato.
I like the onion.
I like, you know, I want to taste a little bit of it.
And when it looks like they've taken a blender to it, it's kind of like, okay.
I love that.
Wait.
What?
Oh, a blender, like to puree it?
Yeah.
Okay.
By the way, we're having pizza, pool, and film night, the PPP night.
Yeah.
Film with the pH.
And last week we had Mexican food.
Yeah.
Are we going to do that same thing tonight?
Probably.
In order 5,000 different dishes on accident?
We have a new standing tradition every Friday night.
We have friends over, order food, hang out, go to the kids in the pool, get in the pool with them.
Probably no pool tonight, though.
It is freezing out.
Dude, why is it cold?
It's April now.
It's 53 out.
I know.
Next up.
Sex before marriage.
What are your opinions on this?
have they changed
what was my stance
previously I don't know
what's your stance now
I think we've gotten older
I know I will be open here
I learned the hard way
I would say now
if I could go back
I would save sex for after
marriage.
Why?
Because
it's not like a thing for me, you know?
What?
Because I feel like the argument
is always like, save the special thing
for a special someone.
I don't think, I don't see it as like that special thing
for the special someone. I see it as
you can never know
like the truest form of intimacy
like you experience with your spouse
does that make sense
so I don't care if you have sex before marriage
that will never remotely come close
to the intimacy you will feel with your spouse
so then why
it's very empty before marriage
it's not for the right purpose
does that make sense
I think you teach yourself before marriage
if you allow yourself to do that
to learn something about
sex and intimacy that is wrong
that's false
when I say it's not a thing
by the way it's not like
I'm not saying sex is not a big deal to me
I'm saying I don't like
your body count or whatever
doesn't really factor into my
to my love for you, right?
Yeah.
I think one thing I've learned more about,
and it probably comes with time,
maybe age,
is like the symbolism of sex
and all the things that come with it.
Like, it's not...
When you're like a teenager,
it's so easy to just make it a physical thing.
but it really is so much deeper than that like there's yeah it's i guess i'm saying the same
thing you are yeah the uh the depth of intimacy but but also um well
go ahead i don't want to interrupt you but people argue today that like sex is really
important in a marriage and if you don't have that physical chemistry or if it's not good with
whatever I think that's kind of a load of crap I think you're going to know if you have
physical chemistry when you're dating and then when you get married I don't think good or bad
exists it's like you figure each other out and that's the important part yes because it involves
someone else yeah um i like the question and i think all right another tangent let's just say you're
trying to like optimize for the happiest life okay let's just say that's the benchmark that's
what you're aiming for okay when i'm 90 and i die i want to have been the happiest that i possibly
could have. What does that life entail if you're going to reverse the clock? There's things like
don't smoke cigarettes, right? Things like watch your diet, don't need too much sugar, exercise for
what is it, 90 minutes a week. And I think, well, this has been interesting to dig into psychology.
Forgiveness is a healthy thing that leads to happiness. The neuroscience of it says that. The Bible
aspect, the spirituality of that
gives it a little more color than the neuroscience.
But I think
I think
being known
and loved, being fully known and
fully loved
leads to happiness.
Right? And how do you
be fully known and be fully loved? I think
marriage is a key to that.
Right?
And there's different shades of it.
Like, I know my siblings in ways my parents will never know me.
I know my siblings in a way that Sean will never know me.
But, like, the full picture, yeah.
I think, I think that's, like, it's optimizing for,
what I'm trying to say is, don't smoke cigarettes, okay?
Okay.
We do have, like, 20 more questions.
Do we need to do part two?
Or we might just need to, like, make our answers a little more concise.
Have any hate comments ever really stuck with you?
You know, we're talking about,
we're about to have Pastor Whitehead on our show
who wrote a book called The Digital Fast.
I am, we were talking about our habits of phone usage,
screen time, social media.
I don't, I have a pretty healthy relationship
with social media, which I'm happy to say.
I also could be wrong,
but I actually don't scroll much.
ever since we went to Instagram headquarters
in like 2018
and we sat down with the person there
and they said make sure that you're creating
on the platform more than you're consuming
on the platform that like really changed
I love making videos and publishing them
I love the community aspect
but I don't
I don't often actually just
sorry but I don't read all the DMs
or the comments that's what I do
yeah I read all the
the comments and the DMs but I
say no the fact that i can't think of one right now means that it hasn't stuck with me they have
affected me in the moment um but no not really stuck with me next up do you go to the bathroom or
fart in front of your spouse comfortably no i don't i used to think that was the standard of like
oh i can't wait till she gets a point where she's so comfortable to do that uh i like not doing that
around you. Yeah, and I think I do, I did, I do. You do. You do. You do. But I think I'm getting
to the point where I actually like, I want you to have the best image of me as possible. And I think
there's an effort involved in that, including not farting. Wow. It doesn't bother me.
There is a book called 30 Lessons on Loving by Carl Pillimer. We got to interview them. And that's
one of the things that one of the old people said is like, don't break wind and always dress
well in front of your spouse because you want them to think think of you well but to answer
question yes I do you want to do like two more how do you know this are we all the way we're not
that deep into okay okay we gotta get through these question for you Sean have you ever gotten
a Brazilian wax or laser hair removal is this weird to answer Brazilian wax is the whole
kitten caboodle why would that be weird I don't know is this like a is this a girl asking
I think it's, I think it's weirder to get one.
Like, it's a weirder experience to get one than to say you got one.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You've gotten one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Both.
Like, yeah, I imagine it's somewhat uncomfortable to have wax poured all over your hoochie mamas.
It is.
Yeah.
It doesn't feel good.
Yeah, there's like a...
I also did it pregnant as well, and that scarred me.
Why'd you do...
Oh, I love you said that.
It scarred me.
One, because everything hurts so much worse when you're pregnant.
Wow.
So much worse.
So, yeah.
Why did you do that?
Because I couldn't comfortably take care of it on my own.
Logistically couldn't read.
Logistically.
You know, I don't mind like a little.
No.
I do.
Okay.
I do.
All right.
What? Oh my gosh.
I cannot believe you just...
What about laser hair removal, though?
Yeah, I did it.
You did?
Yeah, I didn't work.
I've heard that about laser hair removal.
I also, like, did laser hair removal, like, really early on when it was, like, new,
so I don't think it was, like, the most efficient process back then.
Well, they've improved it.
Yeah.
I have a buddy who's extremely hairy, like, the whole, his whole back,
and he's gotten laser hair removal multiple times, has not worked.
Anyway, what's the most out-of-pocket place you've had sexy time?
Thinking of a couple.
Say it on three.
One, two, three.
Beach.
I don't know if that's like out-of-pocket, but like...
Well, the context is, and we can keep that between us.
Yeah.
All right.
Has Andrew ever purchased your feminine products at the store?
Yes.
Yes.
Not consistently, but yes.
Yeah, I don't have, I don't really have a thing.
No.
You're probably going to have to for our daughter someday, so.
Hmm.
I haven't had that talk.
I think the, the, the, you shouldn't be raised in a household as a girl where it's like,
don't talk about it.
Don't, like, you need to hide it.
otherwise that just makes
an unhealthy relationship about
health
with a girl
but there is a right way to talk about it
and a wrong way to talk about it for sure
but like our boys need to be aware of it
our boys need to be respectful
of
girls' health and like
yeah it should be
like this is a necessary item
yeah
whatever
does anything really give you the
ick like gross you out
not really
I don't know what in
to what context this question is referring to
there was a cockroach in our house
the other day I don't really enjoy
excuse me
it was a while ago
I don't really enjoy those animals
creatures I should say
I don't I don't even mind spiders
I think snakes are cool
Is this the one you found a laundry room
like a long time ago
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I've got to call the bug guy
But not really
I mean now we've had poop on our hands
So many times because of kids
Throw up everywhere
You are way more icky than me
As far as getting icked out
Yeah
So say what do you got
I don't I can't I don't like buggers
That's probably the worst
Okay
How long did your honeymoon phase last in your marriage
Um
How long were we in
Oakland?
From April to July
A couple months
Yeah
It was just you
Yeah but that's it
I'll take that
That was good
And then Sean went on tour
And that was that
And Andrew
Boundstrom
Became an Uber driver
how do you express to your spouse you want to be intimate do you just say it or do you have a code word
do you drop hints all day we've been just saying it kind of i'd say we do all of that it depends
on the day it's like there's never like code word but we'll be sly we'll hint at it we'll
i do i do think however you do it it's important for you to like communicate the ask and not just
assume the other person
is on the same page.
Yeah.
You feel me?
Yeah.
Because not everybody's
appetite is the same, you know?
Mm-hmm.
What's the grossest part of pregnancy?
The sweat.
Well, that's not my question to answer.
Yeah.
Thank you.
But I'll say this.
The Foley bulb for me was uncomfortable.
for you.
Did you watch it?
I didn't like watch the whole process
but they were like
throw your knees out
and like put your feet together
you remember that?
Oh.
And then so...
Are you scarred by that image?
I just felt bad.
Maybe that wasn't gross
but I was like...
I don't know.
It does get gory at the end
like when they pull you off
the operating table.
But it's digestible.
Yeah.
Just like...
just like the placenta digestible
that weird
some people are into that
yeah it doesn't bother me
did we do that
yeah we didn't we almost did
we should just throw that baby on the grill
you wouldn't have
I would have
we could just kind of
that's not a you thing
cook it medium rare
on the on the Trager
gross
um
is that
most embarrassing
moment as a couple
oh
I got it
college
oh wow
what are you thinking of
just give me one word
and I'll know
Matt
oh yeah
yeah
we got caught guys
but we didn't know it
we had a roommate at the time
who we thought was
out of town
we thought he was out of town
but he evidently came home
in the middle of the night
and our door was wide open
he just went about his business
being retired professional athletes
what's something you do not miss about sports life
I don't miss
when you had sore ankles or knees
or a back
and you had to go out to practice
today and the next day
and the next day and every day for four months
and you couldn't take a day off
And then the injury and pain just compound.
Now it's like, oh, my knees in tough shape.
I'm going to not do anything for three days.
And then it heals and then you're like, good to go.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, you would just feel terrible.
My feet would freaking kill me.
Achilles and IT bands.
My lower back was effed.
I would say the same thing.
Just like the sacrificing your long-term health
for that momentary success.
Oh, you think you actually sacrificed long-term help?
I'm just thinking like the short-term comfort.
And by short-term, I'm saying like three to five months,
it's like pain a lot.
I don't know. Maybe it is long-term.
Maybe it's not.
I don't know, but that.
You think you shortened your lifespan
by being a gymnast?
No, but I think I might have shortened
the lifespan of my meniscus, you know,
or my, like, whatever it was hurting.
It's like...
You're really functional now, though.
I know, but...
I'm 12 years out?
But I'm also,
like, been told I should never run long distance.
Well, that was because you tore your knee skiing.
I'm just saying, I think there could have been things in gymnastics where it's like, I
pushed through fractures or sprains or like, I think what, I think we're saying the same
thing.
It's like you're prioritizing your instant success over like, like, like, you're, you're, you're,
success over like you said i have a stress fracture in my shin i should probably i should actually
rest for three months and not keep tumbling on this yeah you were way tougher than i was now i want to
look up football players aside ct the whole thing uh what is the lifespan of a professional athlete
in all categories versus non professional athletes yeah carrying on what's the grossest part no
Oh, sorry.
Do you have any silly names for each other?
I call Andrew Bro.
I call Sean Bug.
We have done that since we started dating.
It's on our wedding book.
What was that book?
It's like, were people signed?
Yeah, our guest book?
The guest book, yeah.
I called him Bro.
That was his nickname on the football team, was literally bro.
And I didn't want to, like, have a cutesy baby name for you in front of.
I was surrounded by football players all the time.
And I didn't want to be like, hey, sugarplom.
My nickname in college was bro.
Mm-hmm.
But I was all with the football guys.
So when Sean started calling it, she was like the only girl.
It was great.
It's endearing.
It's good memes.
You're a bug because you gave me that name.
You said that's what some people used to call you.
No, I think you called me that because I was literally a bug.
I did?
I did not come up with the name.
I think you did.
No, a bug would not be.
I had never called myself or been called.
bug
I'm glad
we're talking
about this
now I know
I'm literally
do we need to
come up
with the new one
I call her
boo-thang
you do
call me
boo-thang a
lot
or
oh shoot
wait
what's the
Russian word
for
for grandma
but it's
a
you know
I'm talking about
shoot
I think it's
S-H
no
oh my gosh babushka babushka babushka babushka
okay funny babushka boo thing
um next do you ever cuss in front of each other or make raunchy jokes
Sean's way more of raunchy jokes fan than I am
yeah and we don't cuss that much
yes yes yes but not often we have cuss in front of each other
but it's not part of our like language
we're not really cussers no
have you ever dealt with depression how did you
Yeah, okay, we have 10 questions.
Do you think we can get through these?
I don't know how long we've been going for.
I don't think.
Are you also, is anybody out there?
Is anyone still listening?
Are you guys there?
We got this.
Let's just keep going.
Have we ever dealt with depression?
How we get out of it?
We are going to do an episode about postpartum depression where I think we can get into
this a little bit more.
Give us a little time.
Give us a little time.
Yeah.
I have dealt with some like depression early on, like in the transition of athletics.
outside of it
how did I get through it
this is guys I will go way more into depth
this but um
community
asking for professional help
asking for help from
your close community your parents
your friends and having like
accountability people around you to make
sure you're like
you're having your check-ins and making sure
you're like getting progressively better
wow
the answer from my standpoint
I don't know if I've ever had depression,
but I was just looking up
how many people have diagnosed depression
and it says about 280 million people worldwide
which is about 5% of the world's adults have it.
I feel like a lot of people say I'm depressed
and it's not diagnosed.
Not you in particular.
Correct.
Yeah.
I think I have more struggled with like anxiety,
not in yeah football days that's what i don't miss about sports either is like no i actually do miss
that yeah the freaking having the moment be in front of you being a little intimidated by it but
freaking stepping up not being able to sleep for weeks on end just something impending well i have
okay so funny story about cussing and sports i long snapped for 20 years of my life
never had any mental like yep mental yet
show up in Kansas City,
signed with the chiefs.
They said, Andrew, this is your job to lose.
And I lost it.
No pressure.
But I lost it mentally.
So much so that we would do these team meetings
with like Andy Reed, the head coach
and all the 100 players and all the coaches.
He would walk in the room, everyone's quiet.
And I've never felt this in my life.
I would have to physically bite my tongue
to prevent myself from blurting out the F word,
which I never say the F word.
it was the most of
dude
you were a psyched out
yeah
I was a mess
carrying on
next thing
how are you thinking
about
adoption soon
no
not soon
great
not soon
we got to settle in
yeah
uh
how do
my gosh
here we go
how do you
spice up naked time
oh my gosh
and make it new
we always talk about things
but never
implement i think it's all right talking about it's half the fun we just kind of go with the flow man
yeah i wouldn't say like i wouldn't say incredibly spicy is is important to me i think it depends on
your definition of spicy you know the person asking the question yeah is what i mean
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vary by regency app for details this is an interesting topic to me because i i know some people have
like the range of interest in this area seems to be never-ending and very broad yeah and i don't really
empathize with that you know i'm not like i just you know let's do the thing and there's
it doesn't need to be orchestrated or like performative for me yeah i just want to cuddle with you
do the thing take about 30 seconds doing oh my gosh okay feel free to say your side of the story though
I was trying to think of an analogy
So we don't have to get into
Like details here, but
I don't have to get into like details here.
C.S. Lewis, one of my favorite authors,
said that sexual appetite, unlike hunger appetite,
doesn't get satiated when you
perform the act.
it actually grows and become like when you when you entertain oh i don't know i i don't
i don't freaking this doesn't speak to me the question of spice so i would say this i think we are
very spicy together there you go i agree i like our spice i like our spice i like our spice
we are the perfect spice it's like a fine dining spice all right okay
The first poop after having a baby is it as scary as it seems.
That's freaking hilarious.
Yes.
What?
It's absolutely terrifying.
Tell me more.
You literally have, well, for my experience, I have sutures 10 layers deep.
Okay.
So it's not scary in like the, it's like gory way.
No.
Okay.
It's scary in the sense of like a baby has exited you one of two ways.
Using any internal strength to exit something else from your body, you have this immense fear that you're going to do more damage.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get that.
So, like, it is scary.
Do you think she, is that a funny question?
Is it okay?
I laughed.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
But you'll get through it, though, right?
You'll get through it.
It's fine.
Did you specifically try for a boy or girl, different positions for each one?
Yes.
After we had Drew, I said, all right, we're going to have one or two more kids after this.
Did it work?
We don't know.
They say
They say for those listening
Stop, don't, don't
Hit it from the back
Andrew
And it'll be a boy
Andrew
Oh my gosh
What do you want?
What do you want?
I feel like this is common knowledge
Okay
Don't Google it though
You don't know what's going to pop up
Next
pet peeve about oh the other person we used to love this question this was the question we asked
every couple we interviewed for the first 50 episodes all right i got it go ahead i that you do this thing
and i don't even it's endearing and cute but also kind of a pet peeve i don't know if it's in the middle
the night or like late at night or early in the morning,
at some point in the day, you sneak chocolate treats
from the pantry, but you leave the wrappers
on the counter.
Okay.
And I'd be like, well, you had like a Reese's last night, evidently.
You leave the empty wrapper there as evidence.
That's funny.
all right we've addressed this issue so i feel like i can bring it up it is a pet peeve of mine
when sean will order food or pick up food or make food without even asking i just want a symbolic
ask to say i'm thinking of you andrew you might need some calories so when when like uber eats
shows up and it's a bagel sandwich one you know i'm a girl i'm a girl
man, I'll take care of myself is more of the thought.
You know what's funny, though, is 99% of the time it's a breakfast and you don't eat
breakfast.
I still want this.
You still want me to ask.
So you can still say no.
I get it.
I get it.
All right.
Have you both tried breast milk?
I have made a breast milk latte.
We should bring that video back.
A little bitter for my taste.
Don't know if I'd recommend it.
I don't think Starbucks will be coming out with a breast milk latte anytime soon.
don't think it has a wide population
that would be interested in it.
I haven't like taken a bottle
and tried it to like try breast milk
but the amount of times I've like
carried a bottle around
in my mouth or something
because my hands are full or
I've definitely like ingested breast milk.
Is it feasible to like...
Oh my gosh.
Could you?
Yes, I could.
No, I, you could probably like squirt.
You could
squirt it pretty far so you're probably like aim and squirt
could be worth a try
I was telling Sean we went to dinner last night at day night and I peed
is this too much to share oh my gosh
bathroom was like seven feet wide no this will probably make people mad at you
it was very clean operation I you know how like people
you'll pour a glass of water and pour one into the other and gradually
increased a distance.
He started peeing and wanted to see how far you can make it.
And I made it touch my back to the wall and brought it all the way back.
You are such a man.
I don't know what, oh, the breast.
Okay, next question.
How do you navigate bad mental health days with each other?
We talk about it.
I think we try to be pretty open with it.
I think this is, yes, I agree.
We've done a better job with that.
I also think this is where, like, faith.
helps.
I think it reduces
the volatility and
it also gives you
kind of a solution
or a tool
to navigate.
Okay.
We got to wrap this sucker up.
Did you deal with pressure
from your family members
about having,
or do you,
did you deal with family members?
Wow.
Did you deal with pressure
from family members
about having another baby?
I think the pressure
from my family now
is like stop having more kids.
Really?
probably i would say no we didn't tell like that no no we didn't but yeah last question
andrew did anything shock you with pregnancy and birth i feel you kind of hit on that already but
the gross um no sean was a freaking champ dude you were a chant bro uh you know what
Look, you kind of get, the first trimester, Sean's itch itch.
For what?
You're ready to throw down, you know what I'm saying?
And then you go through the desert.
And it's a stark contrast, you know?
You reach the highest, the highs, and the lowest, the lowest.
It's not the lowest of lowest.
But you crushed it.
No, nothing was shocking.
That's shocking to you.
that's not even irrelevant
it's okay
I like how we do that
do what
the desert
did pregnancy
yeah and I like how we did that episode
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I don't even know how long we've been going
I don't either on YouTube there's a subscribe button on Apple Podcast
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What is it on Spotify?
Do you even listen to a podcast?
I don't.
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Yeah.
That's all we got.
That was fun.
Thank you for submitting all of these,
never team eyes.
Y'all are, I mean, the internet is just.
It's wild.
In one word, if I could describe it, would just be sex.
That's the internet?
Yeah, like, that's what people
are interested in you know wow we should work on that anyway thanks guys i'm andrew and
Sean out