Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 213 | how i met my husband (part 2)

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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I give myself too much credit for how melodious my songs are. Is that a word? We're going to cut all this out. Cut it all out. I'm going to start. Good morning. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Couple Things.

With Sean and Andrew, a podcast all about couples. And the things they go through. I think we got that backwards. We're 220 episodes in this thing, and we still haven't figured out the intro. Hope you're having a great day out there. Sean and I are. Nashville has been delightful the last couple weeks.

It's the most perfect weather. We've got flowers blooming. Fun story from today. So the kids and I, sometimes in the morning, will do little mini-adventures. We consider ourselves the Neighborhood Patrol, so we go on Neighborhood Watch, and they'll sit in the car,

mostly unbuckled, and we'll roam, just like meander in the car going eight miles an hour maybe and we'll just look for different animals or wave to neighbors and it is funny though i did notice on next door someone talking about this creepy black truck that was slowly crawling around the neighborhood so we get complaints because people are like who is this stalker they've all figured it out now anyway this morning we're looking at the flowers because they're in bloom down here it was amazing windows all the way rolled down because it's like 70

degrees and we saw two deer. Whoa. I saw a deer laying down which I can't say I've ever seen that before. I feel like that might not be a good thing. No, he was hanging out. He was good. He was in good condition. He was probably hurt. No. He'd probably even hit my car. He was up on the side

of the hill, chilling. He was good. Kids love that. And then we we also saw crawling across the road a turtle. What? Named him Tommy. Tommy the Turtle. We got out. We were all very excited.

We all picked them up and held them, which was big for Drew, because she typically is a little more cautious, a little more intimidated by that stuff. But it was awesome. It was a great neighborhood watch. And I bring that up to say, get outside. That's what I mean to say. It was a great week. We had ice skating lessons.

We went to the farmer's market. Dude, jet now. this kid two years old is an absolute beast when you put a tennis racket in his hand and you soft toss some balls he was hitting some dingers yesterday and he was getting such a little

kick out of it he's like proud of himself but enough about us let's talk about you listening okay we have a request if you're looking for something fun to do for Mother's Day weekend join us on May 10th in Salt Lake City

that's going to be Friday when this episode comes out this Friday we're going to be in Salt Lake City it starts at 9 a.m. Sean and I will be there. Lindsay Arnold will be there. Sheena Mawani, Kenneth Scott. Dr. Amen. This whole slate of other people. And 300 of you all will be there. So we're doing in-person. There will be an online option as well. But we've been organizing this for months. Sean and I've been a part of this event for a couple of years. And it's always a highlight to get to meet you all and this will probably be our only live event that we do yeah we have three moderated panels a couples a parenting and a moms um we have a keynote speaker we have so many incredible giveaways we're giving away vacations um suitcases filled with 10,000 dollars worth of things

it's crazy uh there will be vendors it will be so much fun if you can join us in person please grab a ticket really quick and come join us if not grab a ticket. get to watch it online. They're still going to be giveaways, even if you're watching virtually. We've got to get some feedback from the family live that we did here in Nashville and from past Mom Summons because it's been really good feedback. Everyone seems to really enjoy themselves. So, and we enjoy ourselves, which is a highlight.

So we'll see you there next Friday. And happy Mother's Day weekend in advance. That's right. Happy Mother's Day weekend to you, Ben. Thanks, baby. You believe you have three kids? No, how did that happen? That is crazy.

I literally was walking around with the kids today, and I was like, I have three kids. Yeah. I have birthed three children. I don't know how that's possible. You've done a great job. Speaking of three kids, let's rewind the clock, though,

and reflect on how we got here. This will be the second episode, the second installment in the dating series. And we ended our live stream that we did, talking about actually debating about what our actual first date was because I consider Los Angeles

our first date. Go ahead and listen that last episode if you missed it. Definitely a date was definitely a date. I don't know. It was a meeting. Okay. Okay. Because like I didn't ask you, I could see how it could be interpreted

as a date, but because it wasn't you and I, like, because you didn't tell, take me out on a date or like just us go yeah it was kind of like a let's get to know this situation what is this situation okay when people go on blind dates though yeah called blind dates where it's just the two of them no those there's such thing as like it could have been a speed dating type vibe it wasn't a group date guy was not dating Shannon okay well so what is let's talk about what is our first date in your mind okay in my mind it would be now But we're not to Nashville yet because there's one more time in between L.A., which was September 18th, 2012.

Yes. That's when you came out to L.A. Yes. Nine months went by before what I would consider to be our first date. But when is Race Day weekend? Memorial Day weekend. So Memorial Day weekend, 2013, I get offered by USA Gymnastics to go to the Indianapolis 500 and to be the Grand Marshal. Be the Grand Marshal for the Indian, for the Indy 500.

Now, I don't know at the time, because, like, it had been a while, we were kind of, we had talked maybe two or three times. It doesn't, like, occur to me at the time that, like, you live in Indiana. in Indianapolis and you're a diehard Indy 500 fan Yeah I know it didn't occur to you because you weren't thinking a lick about me

I didn't even cross your mind didn't even register as a blip on the screen dude But then Andrew reaches out when it gets announced that I'll be the Grand Marshal and he asks to like meet up

So we kind of start texting while I'm in Indianapolis trying to meet up What were you even doing? We haven't talked about What was your itinerary while you were here? Were you doing anything?

I was. There was a huge dinner that I had to attend. Because so many of these events that I've done, like the first pitch for when we got engaged, they're basically, I get hired to go promote USA gymnastics, whether it's an event. So the USA championships were in Indianapolis that year. So I got asked to be the Grand Marshal as like a... They paid you to be the grand marshal the parade, which is like the greatest honor if you're from Indianapolis to be a part of the Indy-500 parade. They did not pay me. Okay, gotcha. But it was like an honor. And it was kind of like a exchange to marketing from the Indy 500 to USA Gymnastics. Yeah, okay. So I had to attend a couple of like dinners and help market USA Gymnastics to the 500 people.

Outside of that, I was just sitting in a hotel room with Tori, my cousin. But I remember we were talking about I had one free night. Yeah, I freaking remember this so well. Let me actually tell you my side, which is crazy. We had agreed and set a time and set up truly a date to go see a movie. You and I. Just you and I. Yeah.

I had agreed to it. Yeah, yeah. And I'm smiling, but it also makes me really sad. I got so debilitatingly insecure and scared and scared and nervous. that like I couldn't figure out what to wear I didn't like what I was wearing I felt like so many things

that right before I was supposed to leave I just canceled on you yeah I freaking know first of all and I'm sorry you missed a part of the story that I'm a little sad had you seen you the first or was it after that

no this was that was a night before the race okay where we were supposed to go to a movie but you had gone dark on me for nine months more or less no this was like six months till that september to may yeah you do the math okay nine months okay and i desperately i saw and found out that you were the grand marshal this parade i've been to the indy 500 i don't know 20 times my dad used to go growing up to collect beer cans whole side story he collected beer cans and we had a whole basement wall covered in the different styles of beer cans. So then growing up, we would always go to the Indy 500.

It's like, you know, one of the biggest events in Indianapolis. The whole month of May is evolved around, surrounds the Indy 500. And so my dad goes to the Indy 500 parade, and he's like, hey, Sean's the Grand Marshal, sends the family group text. I'm like, no way, she's an indie. We're supposed to go to the race. I reached out to you I think I text you like oh you're an indie didn't reply

and then that's when I constructed the most thoughtful text message I've ever put together you're blanking like you don't remember this no that was for Nashville no it wasn't really I'm not sure was it it was for Nashville okay shoot

awkward okay we'll talk about that later Sean and I are talking about going on this date Yeah. I knew there was potential to see her at the race. Meanwhile, behind the scenes.

He's juggling the women. It was a dumpster fire. I had, was supposed to take another girl to the race who I had to, this was not my finest moment. I was essentially supposed to take one girl to race and then backed out on that situation.

Supposed to take a second girl to the race. Oh my gosh. Backed out on that situation, as soon as I found out that you wanted to hang out and we're supposed to go on this date. So I'm trying to keep it clean, but I'm also trying to like understand

what my options are here, all right? So like, I'm not, I'm not dating multiple people at one time. Did you call up options B or C after I canceled on you? No, which was, which made me so angry at you though. Because first of all, the way I'm doing this, we're down in Southern Indiana the night before the race and there's not much cell phone service there so to coordinate all these

plans which was so stressful i had to take this four-wheeler up to the top of this hill which was like five-minute ordeal are you trying to bring a girl back to your lake house andered dean no the whole family was there no that would be weird so it's a five-minute ordeal i'd go up there check the cell phone service see the messages okay this is the new situation come down have to think about it call it was It was stressful. It was Amy, Tracy, or Sean. We don't know who it's going to be at any given moment. So Sean says, yeah, let's meet up.

And I bail on the other girl, okay? So now I've bailed on two girls. I'm like, sweet, Sean's down. And then you back out. And now I'm like, what the heck? Now I got no girls. So fast forward to the next morning. It's always a super early morning to try to beat traffic.

We go and get breakfast at, like, the Brickyard Cafe. and boom notification on my phone pops up Sean text me and you're like were you mad yes this is how it always go I'd be like so done with you and over and then you'd like dangle this little carrot and I'd be like I just couldn't I couldn't help myself so the next day is race day I had to get to the racetrack early and I was doing all this press for USA Gymnastics. I need to like tread lightly here. But at one point in the day, I was being shuttled all around.

It was this group of people, myself and Steve Penny. And we're under like pretty strict rules, which doesn't make any sense looking back on. And we were in the pagoda, which is like the main media center, doing nothing, literally doing nothing. But I'm like not allowed to leave. Steve Penny is the president of USAG at the time. Former, yeah. We were literally doing nothing except watching the race. And I wasn't allowed to leave, which in hindsight is not good.

Or it doesn't make sense. But I'm texting with Andrew trying to coordinate. But also in hindsight, it makes all the sense in the world. yes the fact that yes yeah so this whole time hours and hours and hours have gone by probably from like 9 a.m. to like 3 p.m. yeah there's all this pre-race stuff yeah where we're like trying to coordinate I'm trying to coordinate where like where can I sneak out which just sounds awful and at one point you said you were walking by the pagoda or like you came over there and I remember I'm texting Sean like updates I left breakfast early we had this big family breakfast at the

Brickyard Cafe I know she's like let's meet up a ditch you know we're sprinting over there carry on and I remember again this makes me so angry I'm working through it with counseling right now guys but I end up telling Steve Penny that I'm just going to go to the bathroom that's really yes that's what it was yeah wow and I race down four flights of stairs from the pagoda and go out the front doors and Andrew is standing right there and I remember

I don't remember you were with people and at the time I could not even tell you who it was it was in hindsight it was my brother-in-law my sister-in-law and like our family but I don't remember a single thing except you and yeah

I just was giddy. I was literally giddy. I'm pulling up the picture that we took together. I mean, not my finest moment. Eyes fully closed. But look how beautiful you look. Oh my gosh. I thought about that.

Babe, look at the smile. I still freaking, that's what got me. What do you mean? That's what got me, dude. How could you not be hooked immediately? What do you mean? That's what got me, dude. That's what got me.

Oh, man. I don't even know how to explain it, except like it just built on that every single time we were together, but there was something about you. Even in like, I literally was out there for two minutes and in my mind I'm panicking because I'm like, I can only be gone to the bathroom so long. But there's something about you that just made me feel weightless. I've never felt this way before looking at that picture. We pull it up occasionally. Yeah. Maybe once a year.

I don't know. I don't know for what. But the giddiness of like, rewind and just put yourself in that moment. Yeah. When I saw you and you came out, it was so exciting because you don't know what happens next. I know that, like, that moment happened. And to me, that was, like, so, so special, especially in light of, like, I had been trying pretty hard. I put myself out there.

You had. And I made myself look like a fool, and I, like, was really just going for it. And then if that was the only bit of Sean that I got ever, then I still think, you know, my heart would have been full. I feel that way. Me too. And then it's crazy to look back and think, wow, we do have three kids. We're freaking married. Because of that.

Yeah, that's, it's crazy. You don't know what the end of the story is going to be. You know, it's a long game. It's a long life. And here we are 12 years later. That's crazy. I'm curious after that moment, what were your locker room guys saying? Tim's new scrambled egg loaded croissant.

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And I was just like on cloud nine. I was so pumped. I was just looking at the other pictures that I took that day and is, uh, nothing else mattered, man. So you consider that a date? the two minutes we stood there. Yeah, we didn't even tell how the story ended. You came down, what did we even talk about? I don't know.

I literally don't remember a single word we said. My small talk game must have been all right for you to, like. I also had to apologize to my brother-in-law and sister-in-law. I'd be like, I don't even remember you being there at all. Oh, dude, I was so nervous before he came out. Because it was also like, you were the Grand Marshal of the parade. we had to do it in like a covert kind of way.

There's security everywhere. And then was it to worry with you? No, no, because I literally snuck to the bathroom. That's crazy. I remember

you posted that picture on Twitter or something like that and like a little grid. Mm-hmm. And I was like, game on. It must have meant something to you. You also posted a picture of another guy, but I was like, no.

Strategically. I couldn't. Did you actually? Yeah, because I was giddy too, and I wanted to post a picture, but then I was like, I can't show all my cards. You were heads and your bets. No, that guy was nobody. That guy worked for USA Gymnastics.

He did? Yes. Wow. He worked in, like, marketing or something. He was technically like a boss. You consider that a date? No. But that's where you kind of hooked me.

What was it that hooked you? I'm so curious. I'm trying to think back what, like, what we would have talked about. I don't know what we talked about, but there was just this feeling when I was with you. And maybe I felt it for the first time in L.A. too, but there was this feeling where I just felt like every guard fell apart.

Like, I was the most guarded individual. I was taught to speak a certain way, act a certain way, don't let people know how you truly feel like don't trust anyone I had built up so many bricks and layers and guards to so many things and when I was with you

it just like I literally felt it like fall off and I don't know why I literally don't know why so I would say our first date was in Nashville Indy comes and goes I want to stop and just I am so thankful that we get to have these moments and this conversation

and probably more formal regular way than some of our listeners but on that note if you're married for however long or even dating for years there is something really fun about reflecting back on those early days and it's like when that when those feelings that it's what I wouldn't trade the current feelings not even an ounce of the current feelings for all the old feelings but like there's it's it's such a special little phase right it's different it yeah it's such a blissful naive giddy time so reflect is my one challenge but it's also just crazy to think about how quickly you acclimate and kind of forget about that and then you get caught up and oh well she's annoying me and you're not stop you always do

that but you know what I'm saying it's like it does help to pull a little bit from the excitement for sure that you started with the commitment with to get you through the current thing and then it also gets me pumped about that was 12 years ago what's 12 year how are we going to be feeling 12 years from now about that moment but also about this moment and there's that old practice of imagine yourself at 80 looking back on today and how would you treat today how would you feel about today how would you treat the people around you with that perspective and it's like yay you It just, I don't know, I got the, I got just warm and fuzzy feelings looking at that picture. Me too. Back to, back to the story. So now we're in May, right? Yes, May 2013. No, that was the end of May, so pretty much June.

Okay, so things happen pretty quickly now. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So we go our separate ways, and it goes back home to Nashville. I go back home to Los Angeles. I wrote you this poem. called Lake May 28th, 2013. What?

There's no way. Was that to one of the other? I'm kidding. No, the race, I'm kidding. The race was on May 26th. You want me a poem called The Lake? Yeah. Are you sure it's to me?

Pretty sure. Pretty sure. So now it's June 2013. Yeah. Maybe I wrote that poem to myself. I think you wrote it to yourself. I don't think you sent me a poem yet. Okay. Carry on.

Because I would like to read that poem, though. Oh, what poem? What about? What are you talking about? Because I think a week or two goes by. And we haven't really like, we've chatted a little bit, but nothing set in stone for like, are we going to see each other? Are we going to, like, go on an official first date? what's going to happen. We're living across the country from each other.

And I remember you constructing this really long text. Okay. And it was so cheesy and it was so extreme but it was basically like I'm going to give this one more chance. If football, it said something like

if football has taught me anything it's how to persevere. I don't remember anything else. And at the very last, the very end of it, it was like, Miss John. Would you accompany me to the CMA Fest here in Nashville? Don't remember the rest of it, but I remember that.

And I remember thinking, is this guy for real? And all I remember thinking was, yeah. And I texted you back and I was like, yeah. I think I told her that I had really good tickets to the CMA Fest, which if you've never been or never heard of it, Nashville is Music City. home of country music and in june there's this week-long festival where there's like at any given moment like 12 concerts going on downtown it's awesome there's like your favorite country musicians playing everywhere all the time so i told her we had sweet tickets and i didn't and so when she said

when she didn't have any money back then so she said she's coming i then had to like panic game plan how am i going to get these tickets and i reached out to when i said i was coming what did you think did you believe it at the time i don't know but i knew that if you did i had to be ready so that's where i wrote out an itinerary on a it was so sweet that was a good itinerary i wish i had a picture of it so i fly out to nashville sorry we're kind of like jumbling this keep going i fly out to Nashville and you pick me up I was wearing a gray and lime green long sleeve Nike half zip and tights I just remember that you picked me up in your roommates friends who were still really close with his truck yeah you're wearing your backwards yellow cap

which is my favorite yeah and you had you took me to your apartment to like drop my stuff off which i was not staying there we literally had no for it was total bachelor pad we would cook meals directly on the stove we had lawn chairs for yeah you're sleeping on like the floor tv was literally sitting on like an empty box mattresses on the floor so they're like four guys per room yeah that really was um and i remember sitting on top of like your countertop there was this paper towel

and written in Sharpie on it was an hour by hour itinerary for how we were going to spend our entire day. I had it dialed. And it was so sweet and I don't know how to explain this because this is how that whole date went for me. So the date was all day long.

I remember you took me to the Parthenon. We walked around the park with your roommates who were amazing and the fact that you had like in my mind, the fact that we were doing it with your roommates who are also so cool and chill it was like really special.

But there was something so sincere and so beautiful about the amount of effort you were putting in that money could not buy. What? Money. I couldn't have money and thus I couldn't buy. It didn't matter.

It didn't matter. Because, like, this is going to sound, like, really weird and hard to say without sounding bad. Like, I had been on dates where people just wanted to flaunt material. They're like, oh, get whatever you want. And it's like, it's so empty. And to see that much intention and that much effort be put forth with nothing and it be so much more special

was so cool. I remember being like a tour guide. So Centennial Park is a life-size replica of the Parthenon from Athens, Greece. And I remember, like, giving you the whole spiel about how Nashville is considered the Athens of the South because it's such an intellectual hub. You got Lipscomb, Vandy, and Belmont right there, as well as, like, Nashville State and all these other universities. And I was just going on and on, trying to just, I think, impress you in that way, you know? It was cute.

So we walked around the park. You took me to Puckets downtown. We listened to Josh Gerell's CD. Oh, dude, love and worn the scene between. Shout out. Then you took me to a Vanderbilt baseball game. And you're like, we're going to a Vanderbilt baseball game. Yes, this is the coolest thing ever.

I thought it was so cool. You can't see these pictures. We didn't have money enough to buy tickets to the college baseball game. I thought it was like intentional, though, which was so cool. Yeah. So we part, we drove into the parking garage adjacent to the, the field where all your like the whole football team was and all their friends and girlfriends and stuff and they were grilling out and watching the baseball came from the parking garage that was a good

spot dude it was great vandy boys took home the natty that year let's go let's go and so we watched that we went and then afterwards we walked downtown we broke into the football stadium we broke into the football stadium the first time showed me around that and then we went

to the CMA Fest oh this was the first night though yeah yeah remember there was like a dancing festival at the

dancing in the park yeah you basically took me all around Nashville I knew Sean liked the country music so I thought

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only 1499 build it right build it Rona conditions apply detail Details in store and more offers at rona.ca. I told him I was coming for one day. Story behind the scenes, kind of like you and Indy. I basically had three dates set up by, like, girlfriends of mine. In Nashville? No. Nashville, Chicago, L.A.

So I was flying into Nashville. Okay, so you're throwing shade of me, but you're doing the same thing. For sure. We're all doing the same thing. Okay. And then I was supposed to fly to Chicago and have a date there and then fly to a date there and then fly to LA and have a date there. After that first day,

I fell so hard for you. I was so giddy. I literally canceled everything. And I stayed in Nashville for four days. Yeah, so she also, you were staying at the Renaissance downtown, I think, and with a bunch of girls split in the hotel. I remember being stressed because

the payment, like maybe I offered a pay for, your hotel or something like that i didn't have money enough but then i was like hey uh you should come stay in our apartment if it gets too crazy downtown because i think you're with some party girls yeah i got locked out of the hotel too and you're like okay and then so we're thinking we got all these bros in this apartment and we're like okay how can we make this a livable because it like it was great we gave you like we had one blanket between the 12 of us and we gave you the one blanket i slept On the couch in the living room.

Oh, man. But you were like, yeah, I'm going to be here. I'm supposed to stay in Nashville for two nights. I was like, okay, we can do this together collectively as an apartment for two nights. And then you stayed for six nights or something like that. Oops. Yeah, that was crazy. Did that bother them?

And then I had to, on the fly, create the rest of the itinerary. But to my credit, I kept over-leveraging myself. Like, putting myself in positions that I had no place to be. Yeah. Kind of the story of my life, to be honest. It's like, I end up in a place where I'm like, wow, how did I get here? And then you have to figure out how you, you know, earn the right to be there. I'll never get one of my favorite nights.

I think it was night two. You took me back to the CMA Fest. And if you have been to Nashville, outside of the Nashville Bridgestone Arena, or not Bridgestone, Nissan Stadium, there's like a pedestrian bridge where you can see the stadium from. and like the stairs going down from the bridge to the stadium. We just sat on the stairs and you could hear and see everything perfectly. I watched the entire concert for free. Lenny Kravitz.

Remember that whole? Carrie, oh, where he smashed a guitar. Yeah, something went wrong and he like flipped out. Carrie Underwood. Taylor Swift played that night. Yeah, Tim McGraw. It was incredible. So I only got, I told you I didn't have tickets to the Seema Fest.

I had to go through all my contacts and my phone list call everybody that I knew and it turns out that a friend of a friend, maybe of a friend, worked for the CMFS and they're like, hey, we can get you sweet tickets, but we want to meet Sean. So I remember we went down by the river and I was like, hey, let's go watch Diamond Rio

by the river. And I think we're going to meet some friends. I'd never met these people. We met up with these people who had the tickets I think I kind of acted like I knew him. Is that shady? I don't remember this at all. You don't remember Diamond Rio? I remember Diamond Rio.

I don't remember the friends. I was enamored with you, baby. It was a brief interaction. They gave me the tickets to the suite, which was one night's of tickets. So then the other night, we had to go sit on the pedestrian bridge. Which I thought was intentional, baby.

I didn't know it was a lack of resources. What do they say? Necessity is the mother of invention. So you got to just, you do the best with what you. got and we did pretty good i thought it was amazing but we ended up going to the suite we we met somebody there that we still talked to remember that girl we saw at the st jude party yeah she was in our suite that night i don't remember that either i remember i wore i wore my nicest

outfit black polo jeans which was way too hot it was freaking scorching it was so hot but it was my nicest outfit and who did we see that night brad paisley dude yes We had a blast. Should we continue surfing through these pictures and see what else pops up? I do remember thinking after staying for four or five days that I was, I was in love with you. That's what did it, huh? It did.

I'll never forget. You wouldn't kiss me on the first day. I was like, what the frick? You didn't like that? I was just, I was curious. I didn't want to like I'm not I don't move fast you know I move like I'll let you know that you're what I wanted but that doesn't mean I got to overdo it yeah you know the second day you kissed me which is great story for another day because LA sorry San Diego is a whole

another you didn't kiss me in San Diego you kissed me in Nashville yeah on second day we can finish we can finish Nashville then we'll go next episode the lake trip and San Diego how about that okay so in Nashville second day we spend a whole entire second day together end up back at Nissan Stadium we're sitting outside of the stadium for hours listening and I was like is he going to kiss me or what and you didn't You're finally like, we should probably head back. And we went to the football stadium? Yep.

Broke into the football stadium for the second time. Broke into football stadium. We laid on the star B. We cuddled there for like a long time. For like an hour. Looking at the stars. And I was laying there. I was like, he still are going to kiss me.

I feel this. I felt this then and I feel this now. There's one way to spoil the. it's such a fragile thing courting right and you're trying to you're trying to give off the right signals which is a great thing you want to give off really good caring signals yeah if I'm dating you don't want to do it inauthentically so I don't want to try to be I don't I want to give off signals of somebody that I'm not but if there's one way to throw off that vibe of like hey I'm I care for you and I'm here to like actually be in a relationship with you.

I think that can be so easily ruined on the physical side of things. Actually, it can be ruined on the emotional side of things too if I'm like, I love you. You know? So it's like you have to really walk strategically. You have to be smart and, sorry, wise, thoughtful. And I think that kissing you. you too early would have thrown off the whole vibe it's like so what were you thinking two days in what did you think after the first day when the night slept on your couch took over your

apartment right so there are a lot of things I threw at you that weren't planned so when I say kissing too early let me talk about that that doesn't necessarily have to be tied to a specific number of days or dates or whatever but it's a feeling you know what I'm saying it's like how much do you trust me and how much am I invested in trusting in this relationship? That happened relatively quickly for us, both of us, right? I was hooked from L.A., which was September of the previous year, so nine months before. That's what did it. You know what I'm saying?

I saw it an indie, hooked, spent the, so that was good to move forward. after our first day together though I was actually I start off curious at how how things would go because you had teased me for so long which actually set us up really well because I wasn't necessarily trying to impress you because I was like I was like low-key like annoyed by you know what I'm saying and So I remember we... Low-key like this chick showed up. I think it was when we were driving downtown to Puckets that we were listening to music or maybe nothing at all and we just sat in the car quiet.

Which the people pleaser and me or the entertainer in me was always trying to like have quality conversation, make sure you're, you know, I'm asking questions. And because of the background, I didn't feel that way, which almost unlocked, like, a level of comfort for realness, like the quieter side of me, which is definitely real,

in a quicker, more meaningful way, right? So I started off as curiosity, and then we started having fun. You got along with my friends, which was really important for me. There's a quote or a rubric to gauge a relationship by, a romantic relationship and it's do your friends get along with her does your family like her does she have a heart for you and does she have a heart for the Lord and if she meets those things then she's good enough to marry and everything else's style and style changes yeah right so you got along with my friends huge for me would was that abnormal in the past

yeah most of my romantic we haven't talked about this no i guess most of my romantic relationships and like most of the people i dated it would be like uh kind of isolated it would just be us mostly yeah which is not you right i don't say it's necessarily as a bad thing but i knew those would have a harder time making it like my high school girlfriend it'd pretty much just be us hanging out we had a good time but like I didn't really have around my family or friends so this was a big change and I knew that if you were worth pursuing I needed to I was not there to like dabble it was either going to be we're moving forward with this and I'm going to keep getting effort because I broke my back the last nine months trying to get here or I was going to cut it off

right so once you got along my friends I was big And then you started to open up a little bit, personality-wise, and I was like, okay, she's got, you know, the looks that dry you in, and then the heart that keeps you there. I was pretty into it. Pretty into it. Any red flags the first day. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of all. lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and

vary by race. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at mx.ca.com. This episode is brought to you by Defender. With its 626 horsepower twin-turbo V8 engine, the Defender Octa is taking on the Dakar rally. The ultimate off-road challenge. Learn more at landrover.ca. No, the funny thing is all of this could be red flags. How many times I texted you could be red flags? The fact that I flew out to L.A. It could be red flags. I know, but what comes to mind?

But in the context, like, they weren't red flags. You saying yes, I'll come stay over, was kind of a red flag, right? Yeah. But also, and you staying longer than you said was kind of red flag, but it was also on the flip side of it. different side of the same coin, endearing that you trusted us enough, endearing that our apartment didn't turn you off,

endearing that you had such a good time that you wanted to stay longer. You know what I'm saying? Let's also remember you stayed at my apartment the first day we ever met each other. And that's a red flag. That's what I'm saying. It's like two sides of the same coin.

Yeah. Did I answer your question? yeah what nothing okay good times dude good times i'm really curious if we can go back and figure out exactly how long i stayed because i can't remember i got to find that text message poem that i sent you i think i have it i got to read this lake poem all right we're going to tell you about i guess our if that's our first date nashville dude we'll tell you about our second and third date that is that is what i consider our first date

Nashville yeah wait till you hear at the second date well to hear the third date the second date was indie third date was

San Diego I feel like those two are intertwined okay you can sit you group those into one yeah what a ridiculous thing

what were our challenges oh for you listening if you're in a relationship reflect back yeah on those early days and yeah I hope enjoyed this episode

I did I did too can't believe we got we made it this far babe good work 12 years is that right yeah

been married eight yeah 12 years since we met in September yeah 11 years and four weeks since the race

right mm-hmm By the way, I tend to talk really quiet when I'm thinking. You do. For those of you who have had continued frustrations on our volume differences, that's why. Yep. Thank you. Thank you for listening.

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