Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 215 | unromantic love.

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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A podcast all about couples. And the things they go through. Today's a little different. I don't know if it's quite about couples, but it's about families and it's about moms. It is the I Am Mom Summit. We told you about this. It's one of our favorite events that we host every year. We did at Mother's Day weekend in Salt Lake City, and it was the most phenomenal turnout.

We got to meet so many wonderful women and their husbands who showed up. there were about a thousand people yeah it's amazing it's incredible that's amazing um that's going be the best part of the year what do you mean i think every single person who attended got two hundred and fifty dollars in goodies free goody bags no joke thank you to everyone who made that happen including redmond salt ag one we had hydro jug yep um it was amazing it was amazing tula the soap pumpkin scrub was in everybody's bags there's a lot of generosity going on there It was. All the vendors who shut up to sell and get their names out and have like amazing things for everybody.

The vendors. It was really, really cool. And all of the amazing speakers. However, something that we wanted to do was to do a podcast for you. If you weren't able to attend, we wanted to take a lot of like the really heavy hitting clips that we thought were the best and share them on here for you. That's right. This is an event that's been going on for over five years. Sean and I have been involved for, I think, the majority of them.

Shout out to Jamie Taylor for making this happen. There's literally months of planning that go into this. Again, we'll probably do one or two events a year and for the next couple of years because we have young kids that we don't want to be away from too much. But these events are some of our favorite things that we do because we get to meet so many of you. We're going to meet so many of these wonderful speakers.

We had like Sheena Malwani there, Brooke Romney. It was an incredible lineup. been in fatty hilarious they got me rolling tanner clark crushed it tanner clark crushed it um it was amazing there were so many wonderful takeaways i got to lead the mom's panel and we talked about all different topics from postpartum depression to balancing work and being a mom and being a stay-at-home mom to having kids with special needs and how to teach inclusivity to young toddlers or parents it was a Amazing. A lot of things I even took home and was like, I'm so happy I heard that.

Yeah. And the reason, if I could give background, that we wanted to do an event in this format was because Sean and I have done the podcast tour where we sit down and talk for an hour or hour and a half with you all, which is really fun. I think intimate in a different way. But at least our personal appetite is for like a little more of an intellectual component, maybe a little longer time together. it's not all about Sean and I because we're not that interesting all the time. Actually, no, we're not that interesting ever. And so we love this format where we're able to bring friends in on stage. Lindsay Ardennell joined.

We had Shayley and Grant lead a dance segment, which is hilarious. I can't believe you danced, actually. That was great. But it is really special. And we learn, it's really just an excuse to hang out with some fun people, including you.

And yeah, we wanted to pull some clips from it for you to listen to for future interests when we plan the next one maybe you hear something and you're like I want to go to the next one so um hope you find something that you like in this and it is available to watch in its entirety online I think for a certain period of time uh so so check that out we'll link it down below I'm also really excited for next week's couple things episode because it's Sean and I redoing our goals episode which we're actually thinking about expanding that and making it its own kind of thing

because as time has gone on and we've learned more about it and invested more time into building that out I think there's something really special there so stay tuned for next week I will be wearing a cowboy hat and sunglasses that was the peak of the sty your whole face was swollen

it was wild I have this eye problem that's whack we'll get a fixed baby don't worry so anyway Thank you to all of our speakers, everybody who showed up to that event, Jamie Taylor, our entire team, the Family Made Squad, and all of you for watching. So, without further ado, our I Am Mom Summit speakers. So if you don't know us, I'm Andrew.

This is my wife, Sean. With us, we have Dave and Liz Finley. Hello. And Ben and Fatty Dedrickson. Round of applause, finally applause. Liz and Dave. are the co-founders of Albion Fitt. Thank you guys so much for Sp-A-GELMAN.

Thanks for having us. Thank you for being a part of this event, sponsoring this event, and making all of this possible. It truly would not have happened without your support. Also, they put on the most epic pickleball competition last night at their house. Yeah. Was a bit of an upset, though. They finished second.

They finished second. Did you throw the last time? There was a lot of cheaters. A lot of professional cheats. I don't remember seeing you guys advance. I'm curious, how did you start Albion Fit? Go for it, T. Well, honestly, it was out of desperation.

Liz's parents had been running a clothing manufacturing company, a contracting company. They worked with Nike and Victoria's Secret, and they were excellent what they did. They had two large factories in Guatemala, and one in Nicaragua actually, and 2008, if you guys remember, was hard, and all the work moved to Asia from Central America. And that's where we came in, right, Liz?

And we tried to help them, but honestly, we failed, and it was so hard. Yeah, we always kind of joke that it was our plan D because we had a very different plan for our lives. I wanted to be an English professor. Dave was going to be a graphic designer and we just had that pull for family and we thought it was going to be a difficult

situation but we had no idea that it was going to be as hard as it was and so we moved down there with two little six-month-old twin babies and just tried our best to try to turn things around but it just was too big and so honestly everything fell apart

and I think it just got worse and worse to the point where our factory got robbed and all of the machines were stolen and we couldn't ship an order out that we needed to, and I remember thinking I just want to go home. I just kind of want to pack up my staff

and go back to Salt Lake and Dave and my dad had other plans and they thought that we needed to just keep going and so Dave decided to draw up our own logo and that we needed to start our own clothing business. So yeah, just things got just horrible, I guess. But I think in general that's really motivated us to remember that when things get really bad,

there's an opportunity there if you just try to do your best and surround yourself with good people. You guys are doing this together, working together, now starting a new company. How does that change the dynamic of your relationship? Your new parents, new entrepreneurs, working for another company at the same time,

how does it work your guys' dynamic together? So Dave and I actually met at work. So it's really just kind of been the foundation of our relationship from the very beginning. It's just kind of funny now that I look back on it because our kids just turned 18. I was 18 when I met Dave. And we worked in the copy room together making faxes for, I don't know people remember faxes, but that used to be a thing. I used to send faxes and make photocopies of stuff.

But we were kind of talking about that this morning. It really has, like our relationship has evolved, I think, building that work relationship and then adding kids into it, like your relationship changes, right? because before we could really focus on each other and serving each other and trying to be better for each other. And then all of a sudden, the twins happened. And then now it's just about the kids, you know. And then Albion happened. And then it was about making Albion survive.

And so I feel like at the heart of it, Dave and I are always trying to figure out how can we build on our relationship and strengthen our relationship while still trying to build other things. But we do it together. So it's been kind of magical, hard. a lot, you know, but magical at the same time. I know you two work together as well. And people are amazed, Sean and I included,

your relationship and the chemistry that you have. Yeah. We're working. We're working on it. We're working on it. Yeah. But I'm curious, how do you keep the spark alive and keep that fun energy going?

Are you talking to the right people here? I want to hear about Albion. I wear fatty's clothes all the time, Albion. No, what do you think? We have a lot of little key things we do. We're not that cool. We fight.

We argue all the time, just like everyone else, I hope. Maybe you guys are a lot better than this. But we have little key things that we do, which keep fun and keep us from getting mad at each other. Maybe we shouldn't talk about this is our secret thing. get mad at each other, guys. Just kidding. I think from the beginning, though, we've always been, like, our relationship, our marriage comes first. Like, we've always been very intentional about how we spend our time together, especially when Ben was in school, and I was raised, we were raising the littles, and I was always with the little kids and stuff, and we, they had

an early bedtime, so we had specific times just, like, him and I, and I feel like that has always been something that we've done ever since we got married. We were best friends before we get married and so I feel like that foundation, that friendship has always been there but yeah

I think we're just intentional about how we spend our time together. I agree. I think we tried to mimic several of your challenges and I think I've gotten hurt several times doing that as well. Listen, so have we. Fatty dislocated my shoulder once.

We don't talk about that. It was not approved for us, but we did it, and it's not smart sometimes. Amongst the chaos of you guys in your lives and your businesses, I want you guys to answer this as well for everyone. I feel like my head's on a swivel here. Your parents, you work together, you run businesses together. You have to be, you wear so many hats throughout the day. and I do this on a daily basis where I'll come up to Andrew and I'm like I don't know if I'm talking to my business partner the co-parent or my husband right now but and I don't know who I'm going to get but I have a question for you how do you guys find your boundaries within your home of protecting not only your marriage but your kids and your business at the same time oh that's a good question you got you got to prioritize you have to when we're not orderly or structured it's chaos and so

Like, if you're in a business working at 9 to 5, there's quite a bit of structure and you know that routine. You kind of need to take that into your own lives too, whether that you need a set-aside business so you can go to sports activities or date night or just settling down and having an emotional talk with your spouse. Like those have to be, sometimes they're on a whim, but you should probably plan for those if you're feeling like chaos. One thing I feel like when we first started working together, we got this giant calendar that we have in the kitchen and I just put everything down because if I use, I, by default, just keep everything in my head. I'm like, I know I'm doing this and this and this, but he can't read my mind, right? So when I have it all down, he knows what's happening. I know what's happening. We're both on the same page.

And so I feel like that has helped a lot. And also planning meals. It's like writing it down. Because once kids come home from school, it's chaos. What are we doing for dinner? What are we doing? You know, and someone has to take this one here or whatever. But if it's all down, I feel like that has helped us feel less fresher with each other

or just like, you know, whatever's going on. So. Take a note. Do you hear that? Are you? I think for us, I don't know, we probably need to find out how to do that better, to be honest, because I feel like Albion and Dave and Liz are so, like, mixed, and we only have the twins, and so we've just brought them about, but I mean, we didn't have more kids,

and so they kind of grew up with us as a part of Albion, and so I feel like the four of us have just done a lot of stuff together. One thing, we really like a lot of the same things. Like, we love to be active. Like, we love to play tennis. We love to go golfing. You know, we love to travel. And I can think of, we both love yoga.

Like, that's something we've been doing a lot together lately. And it makes me laugh because, you know, you go in there and they're like, you know, center yourself and, like, what's your intention? And I swear every time Dave and I are next to each other, it's usually we're like, there's an argument that just barely happened. And we're laying down, you know, on this mat. And then they're like, what's your intention? And then one of us just breaks the ice, you know, and we'll, like, reach over.

and we'll, like, hold each other's hands or something. And then we'll get really competitive to see who can do, you know, the most intense yoga move after that. It's your own practice, but it isn't. But I think, yeah, we try to have fun together outside of work, or we try to make work really fun. And we're really lucky. We have a team of people that really are, like, our family,

and they deal a lot working with Liz and Dave and marriage antics, I'm sure. But they help support us to remember, I think, that we're married, too. you know, and they really value that and they appreciate it. And it means a lot to us, too. You found it out being in 2010, is that right? This episode is brought to you by Defender. With its 626 horsepower twin-turbo V8 engine, the Defender Octa is taking on the Dakar rally,

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I feel like naturally, but just having roles kind of figured out in all of your life helps. And there's some things that Liz likes to do that I, like talking on the phone, like figuring out like an issue, you know, where you have to get something fixed. Liz is so good at that. And I'm like the worst of that. But like if there's some things in your, and if you can kind of clearly define where you guys fit. in in each part of your life because we fit in a little bit differently at home, I think, than we fit in at work

or whatever. But you just kind of understand that and you guys create an understanding. I think it really helps and just having it kind of more defined. I love the idea of being structured. We often get pushed back with how rigid our schedule is, and I think it's natural to Sean and I

since we come from the athletic background of being really rigid with schedule and routine, and people are like, don't you feel like you're removing the romanticism or like the whimsy of the relationship and in my mind it's like I know myself well enough to know that if I have you know two hours of time by myself I'm probably going to be irresponsible and probably you know pull up social media and not do things that actually progress me towards what I want to do so like being intentional and structured I think in a lot

of ways increases the probability of connection so like Sean and I every morning it's we're going to we're going to read devotionals together. Every night after the kids go down, we're going to block off five to ten minutes where, you know, whoever puts the kids down last, they're going to come down and neither of us will have our phone. And it's just like, you don't know if that'll lead to a deep, meaningful conversation or connection, but you're at least giving it a shot. And we would prefer to structure that in as opposed to hoping that it happens.

I love that. I feel like there are so many ways to connect. And I think it's like when you're in the busy of, motherhood and you have little kids and you're just kind of like doing a million things and at the end of the day you just gasped and you're so tired you don't want anyone to touch you or look at you or say your name you know you're just like I am over it um we love doing couples journaling um that's something that we were really intentional about especially in the busy of having little kids and that was something that we started doing every Sunday um and and we will just do like one page. And Ben didn't, wasn't that excited about it at first, right? Sure. It was different.

I'm not used to those type of things. But honestly, when I put my man pride aside and did what Faddy want, we compromised and did what she wanted. It was actually, like I got to be honest, it was really good because it makes you talk sort of. And men are very good at not talking, and I won't speak for everyone, but for me at least you just kind of get comfortable, just maybe we'll talk about it when it's a huge issue. And so you cover up all the little issues. But journaling was a way that you could really talk about, hey, what made you mad this week?

Or what are you happy about this week? What can I do more? And it just provided that conversation without an awkwardness, if that makes sense. Yeah, and it doesn't have, you don't have to have like a problem. before you do something like that. It just, I don't know, it just helped us talk about things that we wouldn't really have talked about

and has really provided awesome conversation and intentional about it. And I think it's kind of cool too that our kids will once have that when we're older and they can look through and see what we went through and what we thought of each other and stuff like that.

And so I feel like a lot of times I get women that will say, oh, my husband doesn't want to do it. it's okay like just try it and give it a chance and there's a lot of different things we have these couples cards it's called like we're strangers or we're not strangers or something like that and there's a lot of different ways of just if there's funny ones you can do it on road trips I mean I don't know there's so many different ways to connect and we just love doing those little things would you mind expanding on material like what journal do you use what does it look like when you do couples journaling so it's one journal that we got from um promptly journals and it's a couple

journal they have tons they have like for kids and anyways and there's just one journal and it's the same questions on both sides so ben will answer one side and i will answer one side without reading his and then when we're done i will read his answers and then he will read my answers and then we talk about them. And it's like a five-minute activity, but like it always goes for like an hour because we talk about them. And like, and you learn so many things about your partner that you're like, oh, I didn't know that. Or you're like, oh, that makes sense, you know, or okay, like that was a miscommunication, you know, or whatever. And they always have little prompts of like work on this this week or whatever. So it's just like you're just really intentional about what you're

doing. I think one of the things that's really hard. And I sometimes I get jealous of my friends who don't work with their spouses because I'm like, you must have so much to talk about. You know? Because it's like, you don't know what you did every minute of the day. And like, Dave and I, there was a time when we first started, we shared a desk. Like, he was on one side of the desk and I was on the other side of the desk. That's romance. Yeah. There was some footsie under the table every now and then. But I do feel like it's nice when Dave goes on a work trip or he does something different. And then it's like, we can come together and we don't know exactly what happened every single minute of the day. So I think if you're

working together or, you know, and I think a lot of people do today more than before. It's good to maybe have some different hobbies as well that you can kind of bring to the table to talk about as well. Andrew's the same exact way. His biggest frustration is like if we don't have new things to talk about. So something we've had to get used to, I've had to get used to, is Andrew refuses to text or call. Like, we don't talk to each other during the day, even though we work together all day. And it took a long time to get used to. I was like, why won't you text me back? What are you doing? And he's like, I just want to wait so we can talk about it at the end of the day. It's cute. That's cute. It sounds way more romantic. You're welcome for that. I love that perspective

of journaling with the idea that your kids will read it in the future. I think that's so important because it almost forces you to want to preserve those memories in a positive light, you know, and not emotionally dump everything, whether it's frustration or whatever, because usually there's like a grain of connection or positivity in something. And so keeping in mind that your kids might read this someday is, I think, really important. I'm curious, since you guys do, this is more for my personal knowledge. Do you guys have routines? You mentioned yoga.

What are your normal cadences on a daily or weekly basis that allow you to connect and prioritize your relationship over the business? I kind of feel like our mornings and night, we probably, again, I'm like, man, this is like real talk. We've got to be better. I'm like, what do we need to do? I mean, we used to do everything together. I mean, really, it was like everything together. And I think we are kind of trying to be a little better about creating some different scheduling.

So in the morning, that's like my alone time. That's when I work out. That's when I do my stuff. And then we're both at the office by like 8.30. So we're with each other really from like 830 to 5, 530 every day. But sometimes, you know, and then Dave's got his yoga that he does every night, like without fail. And like if we're on a trip and it's 9 p.m., he's like, oh, I just got to like find a studio. Like he's just like itching for it.

He needs it. But yeah. I think at least a couple times a week, we like to do something, you know, whether it's like we have a tennis, we play tennis with a bunch of our friends or... Maybe not enough pick a ball. Yeah. We should practice that. Yeah.

Just something, I feel like at least once a week or twice a week, we always kind of like get together and do something. And those times mean a lot. And it is, it's just nice to connect on some different. plane than like straight work and it kind of just was like okay like we have this relationship and and sometimes work is tough you know and you have tough decisions and there's and you don't see eye to eye but it's nice to always come back to something you guys just both love and you can just be like yeah like I love you you know like we're friends and you know I don't

know like like yeah we you know there there's all this other stuff going on but we're we can No matter what happens, we're at this other level at least one point in the week. Yeah. I'm curious, you guys have been talking about it's been an emotional phase of life because your twins are graduating, which is sparking new conversations, I'm sure. What are the conversations now going on with potentially, not to bring up? Not to bring up our subjects, but like you're getting into a phase of life, potentially empty nesters. your babies are growing up they'll live with us forever um how has that changed your dynamic how are you

navigating that as parents this they honestly are our little best friends so it is so hard like we just don't have a lot of time i with friends i feel like anymore you know life just gets so busy it just seems like such a treat when you get to go out with your friends um but it's really been the four of us. And so I think I just, it's weird. It's like little things like I'm coming home and I'm like seeing the shoes at the bottom of the stairs and I'm like, are those, those shoes aren't going to be there in six months. But we, we have so much fun together. Dave is like the most fun person I've ever met in my life. He is never bored. When we went to, when we were in San Diego for grad school, I remember I'd come home from work and there'd be a note and Dave

He'd be like, I'm at the park. I'm like, okay. And he got a football, and he figured out how to, like, set it up, and he'd, like, throw, he'd, like, kick. Just do kickoffs by himself. And he'd, like, go see how far. That is, like, the saddest story I've ever heard. Okay.

That is, I have friends. We didn't have any friends, all right? I have friends. I had friends in San Diego. I played with other people, okay? Maybe there was times I, you know, I didn't. I don't know. but he does entertain himself alone very well

but my point is I know I'm going to have a good time with Dave and I do love that when we go on trips together just the two of us like we still have a lot of fun and I'm trying to just wrap my head around just having the twins around less but a lot of people have said that your kids still come around and you can still have fun

but it's going to be hard and I do cry whenever I think about it and it's going to be I just don't feel like people talk about like we talk about like nesting do you know what I mean and then, like, preparing for these little kids. And I know, you know, 18 summers, but now it's just got real so fast. And it's going to be, it's going to, yeah, I don't know. I hope we survive, Dave.

If it makes you feel better, my parents now live two doors down from us. So, full circle. Now I'm like, can you actually move in? Help with the babies. Yes. Yes. You guys have all those babies, different ages, your youngest, is four. Yep, and your oldest is 11. Yes. You guys are in the thick of it. You said last night

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Again, that's 20% off your first month. month at k-I-W-I-C-O-com forward slash panda use code couple at checkout you're welcome in advance how do you guys find time for each other outside of that little window of time at night it's it you got to get creative I mean it's very easy to fill your time I think whether it's wasted time like Andrew always does on social media like if you don't plan for the time like you'll miss it and and we like fatty said earlier it just you have to be intentional like whether it's morning if we get up early fatty usually gets up early and works out i sleep with the kids to get their rest no you just have to find the time and you got to be intentional about it i think also for us we

we do get to work with our spouses so i think you're like on high alert like you need to be intentional about making the day be positive too and and you have to be super intentional of that too because things can go sideways really fast, I feel like, you know. And so I think that that's something that we've become keenly aware is that if we are going to spend all of our time, we joke about when it's like our 20th anniversary was really like our 70th wedding anniversary for the amount of time that we spent with each other.

But how can you make all of those little interactions during the day positive as well? And, you know, when Dave surprises me in the morning and brings me, you know, a nice cold Diet Coke, I'm just like in the best move for the rest of the day, you know? Or if he's grabbing lunch and he grabs me something, I don't know. It's just, it's a special opportunity, I think, to try to be your best self with your spouse. And I think you're just really aware maybe of the moments that you aren't your best self and what you need to work on.

And still doing like those little things, you know, like a big smooch in the morning, you know, like a little back grab here and there, you know. Or like, I don't know. Or just like texting like, hey, how's your day? or, like, if you are out about, like, hey, I'm grabbing lunch, do you want something? Just, I don't know, just showing that you're still thinking about that person or just, like, doing those little things. Like, you're married. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Just doing those little things still. Also, I think a different dynamic with you guys, too, is you share your relationship online. People follow you like us, and we're like, oh, they're so in love. I just want that. How do you guys protect your marriage? from social media but be vulnerable and share it as well you made that sound like that's not true it is okay we'll talk about that's not that's very difficult that

thank you for the question that's so hard he understood it well I I think something that I do good is I keep fatty grounded because she's not like grounded trouble I'm in the corner tonight. That sounds really bad. No, but like when you're in social media, sometimes things get to, like they, that's why I say we fight. Like, that's normal.

Like, I think that's fine and you grow from it. But sometimes with social media or watching people on social media, you get this weird comparison zone or you think everyone's life is perfect or like it makes it seem like it. And sometimes you get wrapped up and trying to make things maybe better, or people, Faddy gets a lot,

of trolls and bad, bad comments, and we just stay grounded, like, who cares? Like, we have each other. We have the kids. Like, whatever happens, like, let's just put that off for a little bit and realize what we have is the most important thing. And sometimes that can get totally distracted with the news, with our economy, with outside bad words. It's just, we just, you just got to support each other. Yeah. What he said. If that answered anything, I don't know. I love that you guys share both, though. Like, you really do. You share both, and I think that's important, because I go, because you guys inspire me.

Like, when I go on your feed, yeah, like those challenges, or I just, I'm like, oh, like, I see the good, and it reminds me, like, I could be better, you know? But in a good way, like, it really does. Like, you guys are so real. And for those of you guys who don't know these guys personally, like, they are so real and so genuine. and they really do have so much fun with each other in real life. And it's, except when they're playing pickleball and they're losing. But, you know, that's honestly like the biggest compliment. Because I feel like in this industry, especially when you, you see a lot of people and you're like,

and you meet them in real life and you're like, oh, that's not how you were online, you know. And I'm like, I don't ever want anyone to ever say that, you know, about us. Because I'm like, I truly feel like for people to relate and want to be. be on your page or like follow you, whatever. They want to feel seen. They want to be able to like relate and no one can relate to fake stuff, right? So like we've always just been like what you see is what you get. And yeah.

My biggest takeaway from knowing you guys personally and following you online is I think it's so important the silliness that you do, I think intentionally bring to normal everyday moments. We were just talking, you know, you just want this year to be at home with the family, nothing spectacular or wild to happen. And in that, it's like, okay, we're just going to be in a routine, but that doesn't mean the routine has to be boring or dreadful. It's like you can actually, if you can be happy in the routine, then you can be happy in Hawaii on vacation. And like, I think that's so important just to just acknowledge that and try to bring that into the everyday. So thank you for that.

Thanks. One of my favorite questions that we ask on our podcast to our couples that we get to interview is what is your favorite thing about each other? And I'm curious if that is still the same thing that you fell in love with early on when you guys started dating or if it's evolved over the years. I'll go first. I think the very first thing I saw about Dave was his really pretty blue eyes and I feel like there's still and it's just still one of my favorite things

he just look how cute they are they're so cute but no it's Dave has the kindest heart of anyone I've ever met thanks Liz I mean obviously

her great looks that's not true I had like a bowl cut when we met we had like the same haircut we did there's pictures and i have pretty much the same haircut it's i don't know but lizza's attitude is like insurmountable i don't know what to say like when you're around her she makes everybody feel better and she just is such a light and it is like like she is so much like it's just like hard to fit in all that in her body i think it just she exudes it and and um and it's always been like that and since like the first time i met her it's always been very like it's just so it's so much fun to be you know in her you know just

around her and just you know in her world i guess and uh but but seriously there's just some people like that and and she is definitely one of them and if you guys get a chance to really get to know, Liz, your life will be better. Wow. That's so cute. Beat that bend. Go and follow that up. Don't ask us that.

Let's end with that. We should have gone first. Go ahead and go first. Okay. Hey, so what did you want to talk about? Well, I want to tell you about Wagovi. Wagovi? Yeah, Wagoe.

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And anyone that was around him was always laughing. And that's how I am. Every day I'm laughing. And he just makes me happy, truly. And it's always keeping me smiling and grounded. Well, when someone's in a really low place, they can only go up. So, like, that was my key to success. wait. I think fatty, like we said, like fatty, what you see is what you get. Like she, she's obviously

just totally mchotty pants, you know, but in college, everyone went to fatty. Like if they had problems, even if they didn't know fatty, they would go to her. If they were best friends, they'd sit for hours in her room and just dump all their trash on her. And she'd take it and try and fix and she was always just this lighthouse and that's what I refer to her just Faddy just cares almost to a fault and what she

can't, that's bad to say but she cares so much it's hard to not just want to love her that's great should we take kind of a vote to see would we like Dave's answer or Ben's answer better okay but now you guys go

oh no no we're the modern Andrew. Okay, I'll go first. The thing I fell in love with Andrew, or the thing that I fell in love with the most when we started dating and about you is similar to what Fatty's saying about Ben is like you made me feel like I was the only person in the world

and the way you cared so much about me as a human and nothing else was really special. And I think now watching you be a dad our entire like dating journey Andrew has this the most beautiful quality where you're so freely yourself in a world that is filled

with so much judgment and opinions and drama and you could so easily just fall into what the world wants for you you're still just a kid and you laugh and giggle and yell and yes it can be annoying sometimes but it's so beautiful because you're so free

and I've always said since we started having babies, like the one thing I want more than anything in the world is for them to be exactly like you in that way, that they are so freely themselves because it's the most beautiful thing ever. Okay. That was pretty good.

That was pretty good. B-minus. Yeah. Well, it's been for me, for you. I think I love how I cannot figure you out. and it is this every day I wake up and I'm like I don't know what I'm getting into today but I'm excited and no I mean that it's some days it's frustrating it's someday it really is amazing to me and I can't figure out how you simultaneously this was not a pre-question this was not a question we knew we're

going to do not prep for this answer no I do mean it though like simultaneously you are the most talented, amazing woman I've ever met, but you're also the most humble. And it's like, it's amazing to me. And I can't figure out how you're able to hold both of those things together. You're simultaneously the most intense, competitive person, I know. But also, like, the silliest, goofiest, I still don't like when you prank me. But you love doing that, and it's fine.

But it's like, it really is the challenge of a lifetime to try to. You're bringing it back around a little bit. That expectation's low. Well, thank you. Truly, you guys, thank you. I think one of our favorite things about this is hopefully you guys are feeling the same thing. But again, in a world that can be so broken,

hearing these answers, it just makes you feel on top of the world. Like seeing the way you guys look at each other and talk about each other and talk about marriage and family and parenting and how hard it is, but how beautiful it is, is truly why we love doing what we do. So it's really special.

Not the U.S., but my takeaway from today's discussion was it really is, like, you kind of have the choice. The good and the bad thing are kind of like two sides of the same coin. And, you know, Liz's attitude for you, it's probably frustrating sometimes, but also the thing you love most about her. And it's like there's moments where the moment could be a bummer sometimes or you could have silliness and it could be a moment of connection. And so it's like both can exist.

it's almost just like a choice to have it happen. Or what are you going to go with? And I am curious, actually. I hear this little baby right here. Yeah, I want to hold them so bad. It makes me miss our five-month-old. Can we do a raise? Who had brought a child today with them?

Can we do a raise a hand? One? Is it just, oh, we got some up there, three, four. Oh, my gosh. Thank you guys for making the effort to come out. Yeah. We're excited and honor. Yeah, let's do a round of applause for them.

And thank you, Dave, and Lowe, Liz, Ben and Fatty, it is a true honor to be up here with you all, and look forward to the next time. Thank you for having us. Thank you.