Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 239 | answering your questions about traveling with kids (part 2)

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Today’s episode is part 2 of our “traveling with kids” series where we answer your questions about what it takes to travel as a family. We asked you all to send in questions on our instagram (@ShawnAndAndrewPods) and like always, you sent in so many awesome questions we were excited to answer. From traveling with car seats and strollers to how we get our kids to sleep on a redeye flight, we cover it all in this one! We hope you find this episode helpful! :) Love you guys! Shawn & Andrew Follow our podcast Instagram  ▶ https://www.instagram.com/shawnandandrewpods/ Subscribe to our newsletter  ▶ https://www.familymade.com/newsletter Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawnjohnson  Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. Where we talk about a couple things. Today we are going on to traveling with kids part two. When we started this traveling with kids part one, we had no idea there was going to be so much to talk about until we started talking. And it was like, wow, there's actually a lot more to this than we thought. Yeah, I enjoyed part one. It seems like you all did as well. Thank you for the comments and the feedback on that. We got DMs. We got feedback on the, on the reviews and we also got comments on YouTube so thank you for all that I first just want to

talk about what this podcast is about in general and who it's for because there's no shortage of podcast out there so I just kind of want to draw the line in the sand and if you're if you're this type of person that we're about to describe I think this podcast will be for you if you're not this type of person you might not enjoy it as much Sean and I are parents to three young kids that consumes most of our day, most of our lives, most of our thought processes. And that's what this podcast is kind of about how we've navigated that, how we relationally deal with parenting, getting older, we've been married for eight years, you know, what does it even mean to like have friends as a couple, things like this.

And we're not going to be like the punchiest, trendiest, pop culture, polarizing, promiscuous, or divisive. So if that's what you're looking for, if you're looking for like a cortisol injection of something just to get you going, like a little adrenaline rush of, oh my gosh, this is just vivid and wild, this is not your podcast.

But if you have kids and you like kind of the beauty of a mellow life at home with your person that you love most, that maybe you had kids with. This podcast could be for you. What'd you think about that? Wow. What do you think?

I like when you get on pedestal. Yeah. We talk about marriage, talk about relationships. We give opinions, but nothing earth-shattering. Yeah. Pretty mellow opinions.

We have fun. And we do these episodes which just Sean and I. We also do interviews. And anyway, stick around if you like that vibe. But back to, traveling with kids so it's just to reiterate not as easy to travel with kids as it is to travel

without kids correct and we have tried all the products we've tried all the different gimmicks and tricks that we've heard we've also learned a lot from people who have given us advice and so we want to kind of group all that together and share with you what has worked for us the best. It does go without saying because we said this in the intro. But we did do a part one. We talked about a lot of different things

to give you a quick recap in going forward for part two. We have traveled all over the world with our children, starting at a very young age. This might be a controversial thing to say, and I'm sorry, even though you just prefaced by saying we don't say controversial things. if you are a person

that believes children have no place on a plane or on public transport you can leave you think children have a place on a plane and transportation absolutely yeah we do get comments every once in a while like how dare you take a kid on a plane

yeah it's no place for a kid some people have strong opinions about that I 1,000% disagree with you yeah anyway so we'll be telling you how to travel on planes trains and automobiles with kids. All right, so let's go through some questions that we got.

These were sourced from Instagram. Thank you to all of you who submitted questions or thoughts on that platform. If you don't follow us over there, go ahead and check us out. It's a bunch of ridiculousness. We make a lot of videos. Some of them are funny. And I like them. I like the videos that we made personally.

I black hole scroll my own answer. It's fun. All right. All right. First up. Do you bring any comfort items like blankets and stuffed animals on a flight, or are you afraid they'll get lost or dirty? All of the above.

I'm definitely afraid, but we bring all of our comfort items no matter where we go. And yes, probably a thousand different times we thought we've lost them, and it's been bad, but they are staple items. And I don't care if we lose our luggage, but. we have to have our comfort items, which are Drew and Jet and Bear each have like this really, it's like a big blanket that they sleep with

and then they're lovies, which is like the small blanket that they sleep with. Yeah, the idea of them getting dirty, I have not even thought about that after having Drew. Once the second one came along, I was like, all right, dirtiness is not the priority here. I do wash them every week.

We're not the people that are really hand sanitizing everything or scrubbing things down with wipes. We just kind of get on, do the thing. Actually, you used to. We do the best we can. We've changed standards. Anyway, yeah. Yeah, we do pack them separately from our check-on luggage.

Second question, would you ever let your older kids travel on a plane without you? Never. Like a five-year-old? No. No. What age would they need to be for them to travel alone? Travel alone as in what? Like, are they traveling with Nana?

No, travel a loan. No, no. What age? 18. Really? Yeah. How old were you when you traveled alone for the first time? Probably 16.

Really? I always had my coach. Gotcha. Never alone. Okay. Okay. I would say 18 and even then I'm putting a tracker on you. How old were you when you got on a plane without your parent for the first time?

12. It was you and your coach? me and my coach going to Brussels Belgium I think I was like 21 yeah that's a better age our first our first day when I went to LA I do think that's a better age but I will say I have traveled so so so much like a ridiculous amount in my life and the more I've seen and the more I've learned and the more I've traveled yeah I would say at least 18 before I I would let a kid fly by themselves. Protective mama, I dig it. Sean turned professional as a gymnast and she was age 12, which is the reason that she traveled so much. Had you only signed up for the loyalty programs?

You would have a bazillion mile. I know. What the heck? I know. All right. Number three, how do you deal with other people complaining about your crying baby or toddler? Tell them to get over it.

No, I don't think, I kind of have a stoic philosophy here. It's like you can't control what happens to you. You can only control how you react. For sure. To me, it's like you kind of drown those people's opinions out. You're like, no, what do I? I want to respect people. Yeah.

But I cannot cater to their preferences, you know. This is when Mama Bear kicks in, though, and I'm like, for people who have something to say about it, I just get really annoyed. I would just, like a broad message to people who are traveling on a plane and there's a kid on that plane who's screaming.

The parent also doesn't want the kid to scream. Yeah. So your feedback that you might give might be redundant. Or your eye rolls or your... Yeah. Anyway, what's the best... What's the best way to make it through that situation?

I think it's like, hey, can I be helpful? Can I get you a water? Do you need anything? Maybe flip the script on the, you're disturbing my personal piece and say, man, this parent's been hustling. Also, like a couple of thoughts here.

As a parent, the absolute worst part of parenting is seeing your little one unhappy and hearing them cry. because that's a helpless situation. You could have the best child in the entire world. Who has never cried? Who might be introduced to a new situation? Ears might hurt.

Something might happen on a plane that causes them to cry. Like Andrew said, trust me, that parent that's flying with them is probably more upset internally than the baby. The last thing they need is someone being like, oh, how could you do this? How could you let him cry? How could you be causing them?

such a nuisance to myself like no yeah you know they say it takes a village to raise a kid i think that that even pertains to the group of people on the plane it's like be the village don't be the animosity yes and kindness to a parent who is struggling is the greatest gift you can ever give i will never forget the delta flight attendants who helped us on the way back from paris and it wasn't even like we were struggling it's just we were on a very long flight home with three babies and their generosity and their kindness towards our kids was felt by our kids to make them feel welcomed

and was felt by us. Number four, did you always buy your kids a plane ticket each or do they ever sit with you? They definitely sat with us. It was always dependent on how long the flight was. So if we were going probably longer than, three or four hours, I'd say probably three hours early on. If we were going longer than three hours, we would buy them a seat.

And that was just for comfort for all of us to be able to give them some space to like spread out or play or eat or like whatever it is. If it was under three hours, we would not buy them a ticket all the way up until the age cut off. We also do it for the other people. Like we wanted to just make sure that there was. There's never a sticky situation where it's like, all right, we have a two-year-old who's crawling over a stranger. So we did it kind of out of respect for other people.

It also depends on the airline that you're flying, too. With Southwest, you can sometimes kind of cross your fingers and say, hey, hopefully we get the middle seat or whatever that's open. I feel like they're so often overbooked so that doesn't always happen. But worth thinking about. Another thing to think about when it comes to like whether you buy a seat or not, is doing like the math as far as like the seat um setup so I would always look up on the um on your ticket or on your booking is it two and two seating or like three and three how many people do you have so when it was just drew um we pretty much always bought her a seat

just so we could on planes that had like the three seats next to each other just so we could all sit together now that we're a family of five will buy six tickets total if that makes sense sometimes yeah wait does that make sense

because you'll get one full row and then one row with an extra seat so just trying to like again be as courteous to people sitting next to us as possible and vice versa yeah I guess it also even depends on the type of plane if it's like two and two or three and two or two and one you know whatever

number five What's the worst thing someone has said to either of you when traveling? How did you handle it? I'm thinking, the first thing that comes to mind, there's been several. I can think of one. Where? Or the guy body checked jet on the train. And you almost swung.

I have never gotten in a fight. I almost got in a fight in Paris because we had our two-year-old who was on a train. and I think he was like half sitting half standing playing around and this guy he was he Jet was like swinging his legs playing and barely grazed this guy like you guys barely and even then I immediately looked up

and I was like oh I'm so sorry and the way he whipped around and like swung Jett's feet off of him I didn't even know how to react and man I saw Andrew's flip switch switch flip and I was like I was thinking when we were in the subway station in Paris and we had all the suitcases, all the kids,

and the lady. The lady started Custin out us in French and then switched to English and she was like, why would you even bring your kids? As our kids are standing there like listening to her. I was like, poof. Oh, man, anyway. How do we handle it?

We bite our tongue, 99% of the time. I think it sometimes people say things and then they realize maybe they shouldn't have. There's a little grace given in that situation. Like that lady doubled down. Yeah. And I try to not say something back because I don't want to say something I regret. But there's a glare that happens. There's a glare.

And maybe like a sarcastic smile. I'm not proud of it. It's kind of passive aggressive, but it's better than me. eat swinging. Escalating verbally. Next. What do you do in their ears

pop and it's hurting them? I bring snacks for them to eat. If they're young enough, we do bottles. If they're old enough, we do gum. Just something for them to constantly be like swallowing to help kind of like, what's that called?

Swallow? When they're like getting their ears acclimated. You're saying that. What do you call that? Stretching your eardrums? No, it's called. Acclimating? No.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard a word for this. You keep going and I'll figure it up. Okay. Any tips or tricks for getting them to sleep on a red eye? They're not going to. I would just, man, we've done a handful of red eyes with our kids. I think the older they get, the easier it is.

I think the younger they are, there's a chance they sleep, but I would set expectations that they're not going to sleep, the younger they are. Are red eyes that we've taken, I think, two total, one with Dru and Jet, two. San Diego? Israel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they did pretty well. They slept quite a while. I think that was like a 10 or 11 hour flight. And I'd say they slept at least half of that, which was great. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race.

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And then our red eye to Paris, I don't remember how long it was, five hours, six hours. I think Drew and Jett slept three or four. And I think your expectation should just be They might sleep They might not If they do sleep

They're probably not going to sleep the whole flight So set your expectation there Yeah And any tips or tricks We've tried them all I don't think one works better than the other I don't think you need to invest And like blow up foot rests

Or just bring a blanket And let them Fall asleep in any way Like the screen time is tough Because it mellows them out And it like gets their focus directed but there is an age I feel like it's like a 12 month period where they cannot take their eyes off the

screen yeah so you can't even get them to like go to sleep yeah they'll just watch yeah so I don't know I feel like it's kind of an art where you're like okay let's turn off the screen and give it like 15 minutes to see if they'll go to bed next what's the easiest what has been the easiest and hardest age for traveling with kids under one easy one to two horrible. Tough, yeah. Two over, totally fine. One to two is really hard because they're not old enough to really watch a movie or like have

their attention be taken by something else. They're not quite old enough to understand and communicate. They're not old enough to understand how to sit still for a long period of time or sit with a seat belt and an airplane seat. But then they also don't want to sit on your lap for a long extended period. Yeah, they're pretty restless. Like, maybe they just learn how to walk. They want to move around, like, do the thing. And, yeah, usually at that age is kind of like the first time flying, too.

Yeah. So they're like, what is happening? I would say maybe at one to two and a half, maybe even three, that age is tough. But now Drew we could take and feel great about. Oh, yeah. Drew can fly anywhere for any extended. period of time, 11-hour flight, whatever, and she's totally fine. Because she also really communicates well, which is huge.

She also walks by herself and can even push her own suitcase, so that lessens the load as a parent. She can, like, hold her own ticket and passport and the whole thing. Safety-wise, you can communicate things better to her, so, like, you're not worried about her sprinting across the street or just running, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. But the early, early ages of walking, you're like, holy smokes.

Because you're carrying them most of the time, and they also, whatever. Yeah. That is tough. Number nine, anything special you do when traveling with a newborn and how do you travel with breast milk? Man, you did a whole thing on this, didn't you? I have done it all traveling with breast milk. I have pumped. I have nursed.

I have shipped. I have done everything. I will say a wonderful source of information is milkify.com. milkify yep no milk stork milk stork milk stork ships the milk right yes but milk stork has a phenomenal FAQ on all of the laws

and all of the regulations about traveling with breast milk they will inform you on every possible thing you need to know in the most beautiful way so that you're aware I think the only thing to know about traveling with breast milk it is legal you can travel

with as much breast milk as you want but I will say a lot of TSA agents are undereducated in the breast milk department so it's really important for you to know the laws and to know the rules around the regulations with breast milk in order to protect your breast milk and yourself going through security I've had people like tell me I had to dump like literally throw in the trash 30, 40, 60 ounces of breast milk. I've had people say they needed to like open it and test it and like there's so many different things. So go to milkstork.com and you can find out all the information.

Also the TSA's credit, I don't, it's just kind of a rare situation that they don't see a lot, which is why I think they might be confused. they might not know all the nuances. Because at the end of the day, it comes across as a liquid. And if you're over, you know, your four ounces of liquid, of course they're going to say, you have to throw that away. It's crazy, though, because the mom's perspective is like, you know, they might have just been up for two hours at night pumping for that liquid.

It's a very emotional thing where you're like, dang, I invested a lot in this. And sometimes the patience in the communication can be short. A couple of things off the top of my head, if it's frozen breast milk that you're traveling with, It doesn't count as a liquid. If it is a liquid, I honestly can't remember the ounces, but you can bring up to like 30 ounces or something. Don't quote me on that. It's a lot.

Frozen, it's a lot more. You can bring a pump that does not count as a carry-on. So if you carry any type of, quote, medical device, which a pump is, that can be a third carry-on bag. and you can request extra screening and opt out for them opening up your milk bottles and them actually sticking like a testing strip in it. I remember that too.

What do you do with three kids in car seats? Do you check all the car seats? Do you rent them there? We're taking our first flight with three kids all same ages as yours. Wow, congratulations. What a ride we're on, huh? What a fun phase.

We did at one point check some car seats. I think that was when we only had one now we use baby quip baby quip and we rent them yeah especially for staying in an Airbnb baby quip is awesome they'll just drop it off at the doorstep if you have like a rental car

a lot of times a rental car places will have rental car seats it's just it lessens the load so for us it's worth it I will say the only time we do travel with a car seat is if we have a young enough baby for a duna we take the duna otherwise

if it's true in jet a toddler we will either rent through a rental car service we'll rent through baby quip or we will set up a car service that say we're going somewhere where we're not going to have to drive around we would set up a car service and say bring three car seats we have three toddler

or three kids and then that would be it. But you got this. I'm excited to hear how it goes. Number 11, how do you balance the wanting to see everything feeling that comes with traveling to new places with the reality of traveling with little ones and not being able to go, go, go all day. This is actually something we confronted before we even had kids. I am very much.

Take every minute of the day and do something different. Yeah, I'm a go, go, go. That's how I grew up, my dad, like, we would be packed going from one thing to another. Sean was way slower. She's like, hey, we don't need to fill out. This is like a vacation. Let's enjoy it and sit back and like, let's just see one thing and unpack it and actually really, like, be there

as opposed to rushing through it. So I really appreciated that perspective, and that has just carried on into having kids. I think Andrew and I have really found a groove there with kids. If you are a parent to kids, especially younger ones, our days are pretty much before lunchtime and after lunchtime before dinner. So it's like two periods of the day.

and I think with like a midday nap or a midday rest or like decompressing or whatever it pretty much gives us two activity periods a day and so whenever we're traveling we usually to be respectful to our kids and not like gas them out if we're going to a place for say seven days that's 14 activity windows we try not to fill all of them but we try to like be strategic and say how do we want to fill these which ones are the most important we'll space them out and then we'll fill in with the like less important ones in case we want to mix them because we're too tired or a kid's not feeling well or if it's just like let's actually just stay in the hotel or apartment or and watch a movie you know i've adjusted my expectations of travel to be like

oh my gosh we have to go see it all and we're only in room once and let's try to check off all the top 20 things to do here just to say we did and take a picture of the plaques or whatever like i don't know it's like amazing race type stuff to traveling is really just an excuse to get outside your normal routine get into a new environment and make memories as a result so whether you're just hanging out in the new Airbnb or like the Airbnb that you're at uh or you go out and see an aquarium that you only covered half of uh it's a new memory so okay let's not run but like try to heavy you know is it feasible to travel with kids and not be in first class we've actually found first class doesn't help at all if anything it puts you farther away

from your child yeah yeah we've done first class uh we've done not first class we've done all the different classes and uh the experience i don't think really varies it didn't yeah I will say we very heavily splurged once and did like the lay down seats and stuff. And it was actually one of the hardest flights we've ever done. Yeah, the kids don't want to sleep on the chair. They want to sleep on you. Anyway, and you can get that whatever seat you have. Don't worry about first class.

Just too regular. How do you handle time changes and jet lag with littles? Wake up at 3 a.m. and watch a movie together. That's what we did. Roll with it. Yeah. Coming back from Greece and Paris, the kids woke up super early, and you're just like, all right. But we have not given the kids any sleeping stuff.

We've stayed away from that intentionally. And, you know, it takes a couple days for them to adjust, but it's fine. I would say overall, going from west to east, our kids have really never had an issue, adjusted very quickly. Slept beautifully the entire trip, going east to west. they really had a hard time but that was always coming home too so I don't know if it just had to do with like decompressing from the trip as well it's all part of the experience baby next how do you manage to keep your kids near you 100% of the time my husband and I have a major fear of our kid darting off so quick and strangers are so scary especially in today's world

we almost put the kids on a leash like the little backpack leash we did tracker we did um trackers yeah location trackers and stuff um It's more so just like having that conversation with your spouse and being like, you know what? I know this is going to be more mentally exhausting for all of us. But at the beginning of every day, we would just be like, okay, number one priority is... You can get protein at home or a protein latte at Tim's. No powders, no blenders, no shakers. Starting at 17 grams per medium latte, Tim's new protein lattes, protein without all the work.

At participating restaurants in Canada. our kids and their safety. It really is like game mode where maybe before when we traveled it was hey let's sit down the cafe pull out our phone take pictures and like not be observant when you got kids you're like on alert and it's like a very sensory experience because you're like really trying to keep them closed trying to make sure that they have their snacks yada yada yada so I think it just takes a certain attentiveness that may or may not come naturally. Mm-hmm. Next.

Have we ever dealt with motion sickness for either us or the kids? And what do we do? We have not. So this is a hurdle we have not had to face yet, but I'm sure we will. And I will let you know. Next up, have you ever rented car seats through car rental? We're renting and a little nervous about safety and quality, 11-month-old, 2-year-old and 4-year-old. Ah, what a beautiful set of ages. Beautiful. We have, and we've never had an issue. They're probably not going to be the fanciest, newest models, but we've actually never had an issue with. them feeling unsafe or you know the rental companies have a liability to make sure they're up to code and up to standards for you know the safety of your kids yeah it might not be the brand that you would have chosen but i think it's it's safe for the kids definitely safer than

not having them at all 17 tips for being more role with it when traveling we also have three young kids mine and my husband's knee-jerk reaction when things go south is to pack up and go Um, I get that. I get that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that early on, that was very much our like, why are we even doing this at all? Someone said it really well where it's like, it's absolutely chaotic at home. So why not be chaotic in Paris or Chattanooga or Orlando?

Like, just because you're going on vacation doesn't mean it's going to be easier for your kids. It's going to be harder. And I think understanding that, but realizing. like drew and jet every day will mention something about paris and drew once a week will mention something about what she calls the trapezoid is when we went to memphis and stayed at what was that the pyramid yeah trapezoid she calls it like this really cool hotel i mean that's pro shop that's fun they remember it no matter how hard or chaotic or meltdown city it is it's still amazing for them so all that to say stick with it yeah I think there are a couple

things that we've done one I and I've seen Reels about this where it's like my husband and I before going on a long car trip and it's like we're a team and the kids are the enemy mm-hmm I think that's kind of an extreme way to put it but like there is an aspect that helps where it's like hey if you and I can have a sense of humor about the three-year-old crying because we give that we gave them all the snacks in the world and they didn't want any of them and they're still saying and they're hungry. I think like a little levity between you as a couple helps.

And then I also just think that roll with it. Like, yeah, how do you do, how do you be more role with it? I think adjusting expectations and having almost cues with each other, things that you say that helps reframe the situation. or like the flagrancy of the moment where it's like, hey, it's all part of experience. Or like, all right, everybody, who's having a good time? You know, it's like, don't contribute to the angst of it.

Try to snap out of it and whatever we can. There's a graceful way to do that. There's not. But worth thinking about it. I think it was the first night we were in London this past summer. It was me, my mom, our nanny, Andrew, and all the kids in a taxi. and this poor taxi driver every single one of our children's

was hysterically meltdown crying and we all just looked at each other and started laughing it was like okay here we go but it was a taxi cab driver that actually snapped us out of it and he was like I've got kids myself

yeah yeah and so anyway if you're able to create the white space as we call it I think that's what the military term is where you're like you remove yourself from the sensory overload and you're able to kind of have perspective and create that white space

to navigate the situation a little differently. It helps a lot. Next, do you have a seating order you prefer on a plane? Example, mom being in the middle, kid by the window, et cetera. The kids like being by the windows. Yeah. I would say it's not necessarily a seating order right now, but our five-year-old is the easiest.

And then it just kind of gets a little bit more hands-on as you go down. so I'd say whoever's having the hardest time is usually with a solo parent or like one on one time yeah if Bear is having the hardest time that day then Andrew

it'll be Andrew and Bear sitting by themselves and I'll take the other two that's well said yeah and a lot of times the other two will be coloring or watching the iPad and so the parent is kind of just monitoring picking up crayons whatever but we always try to remove the hardest situation and solo them out yeah

Do you believe it's helpful to start flying with your kids when they're young to get them used to it? Thousand percent. You do? I was going to say no. I do. If Drew was flying for the first time now, I think she would be fine. I don't.

Okay. Interesting. Only because I think it's so new and it's so foreign and then it becomes like a bigger deal. I think Drew's so good at flying now because she's done it so much. Going through TSA, going through like the jet bridge, understanding when to go potty

and how to go potty and like... So you have to stand in the line before you get in the plane. Yeah, I guess, I guess so. But maybe, I don't know, like, I feel like... I still think it's great.

At age two, if that's their first time, I think it's fine. At age eight, it's fine. But I do think it's been easy... Like, our kids travel so well because they've traveled so much. I would say repetition does breed familiarity. Yeah.

All right, next. Is there an awkward amount of time or laps you can do around the plane with a toddler? 10 laps, 15 minutes? Or who cares as long as they aren't fussy? Who cares as long as they aren't fussy? Legitimely.

On this Delta flight that Sean mentioned back from Europe, we stood in the back of the plane with the flight attendant. For half the flight, at least. Yeah, I would say for hours. Yeah. And then we were just going up and down lanes. Jet was viving. He was giving everybody high fives.

The whole plane loved it. Well, sorry, some people did not love it because they wanted peace and quiet. But, like, it was kind of a fun. It was like, all right, we're all in this together. The whole plane, like, rallied around it. So I would just say whatever it takes. Next. We don't have children yet, but I would really like to know how traveling with your kids has changed your vacation dynamics.

One of my passions in life is to travel the world and visit all seven continents. I want to do this with our children when the time comes. I like that goal. I think how it's changed our vacation dynamics, I think we want to travel more now after traveling with our kids and seeing how much it's impacted them. But we didn't always feel that way. We wanted to travel much less after the first time traveling because it's like, yeah, back to the knee-jerk reaction of packing up and go home. You definitely go through that phase. I think viewing that as a phase that set you up for the next phase of like appreciating travel even more is really what you're shooting for.

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Like, it's hard to explain but with a kid like when you hear when you see the Eiffel Tower you're like wow that's really cool I've waited my whole life to see that but then when you hear your kid say Eiffel Tower

as they're looking at it for the first time it just hits different hits different okay two more questions ready did we have the bassinet seat in the plane if not would we have wanted the car seat if we had the option we had the bassinet seat

it was terrible not worth it if you yeah I would say over, if you have over like a four-month-old, it's not going to be big enough. No. This was not big enough for Bear, and he was seven-month-old. I don't even know if like an infant would like it. I don't know.

It wasn't great for us. I also have tried the car seat option, and I did not like it. It was such a pain trying to board a plane with a baby and a car seat and get it situated that it's just, it was not worth it for me. All right, formula travel tips. How do you take it in the plane, or do you just ready to feed, or just take ready-to-feed formula. Sean will always pack warm water,

whether it's warm when the kid eats it or not, is up to when the kid gets hungry. But we'll always have water and then mix on the plane. Which also is fine to take through TSA if it's in a bottle and it's for a formula. You just have to tell them that. And also the planes make coffee, so a lot of times they'll have warm water.

It might be hot, so you might need to get like colder water to mix in with it. A hack is if you, most planes have scalding hot water for tea. just ask for them to fill a cup halfway with scalding hot water and then get a bottle or a cup of ice water and mix it. They say not to pour the scalding hot water in the bottle because BPA is whatever. So try to mix it before,

try to get the temperature down before you put it in the bottle. All right, three more. Does traveling with kids get harder when you add in more kids or is it just about the same with one versus two versus three? I would say psychologically it's about the same. Because when you're with your first, everything's harder. It just, yeah.

yeah and by that i think if you go by the normal routine of the unless you have like twins or something usually if you have three the oldest will be somewhat more self-sufficient so maybe zero to one does feel like a step up one to two might feel like maybe a slight more step up of effort but then two to three i felt like it was the same how do you cope with the anxiety leading up to the day of travel do you feel that i was going to say you mean excitement well no hold on you get anxiety packing and the logistics of it all. Yeah. I get nervous packing so I don't want to miss anything

and I want it to be as like set up for success as possible. I just start early. Start very early as far as like start packing weeks in advance. Start getting all your logistics together. Talk about it with your kids. They know it's not a surprise like all that. Last one. No need for anxiety though.

There's no place for that. I don't think it's going to be okay. I think just like take a breath. realize that there's going to be some unexpected to roll with the punches and enjoy it as much. Stop and smell the roses, you know? Yes.

Last question. How do y'all juggle all the waiting? Always waiting to get on a plane or even to get your luggage from baggage claim. The waiting never, ever ends with kids, it feels like. Here's our strategy. And I don't even know if we know it's a strategy, but we always do it.

One person stays with the stuff, drops it somewhere. The other person goes on an adventure. go running, we go in and out of stores, we come back and we switch with the other parent. We try not to go in stores, actually, because the kids will swipe stuff off the shelf, for sure. Try not to do that. But if you see us at an airport, apologies in advance. We're running. Our etiquette is probably not, like, great, but we're trying to get the kids. We'll run up and down the baggage claim. A lot of times, there's a lot of space there.

And, yeah, one person is usually entertaining the kids. One person is hauling the luggage. That's it. That was 26th. Traveling with kids questions. Great job. Thank you so much, guys. Thanks for listening. And tune in every other Thursday for a couple of things, interview episodes. Yes. We have one coming up with Jeremy Bloom.

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