Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 253 | Reacting to Online Dating Advice
Episode Date: March 26, 2025Today we decided to do a deep dive into the dating advice we found online and let’s just say…you definitely shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet! Some of the advice we found onl...ine was helpful and some of it we highly disagree with so let us know your thoughts in the comments below! If you're currently in the dating scene, you’ve got this! Someone amazing is going to come along, don’t lose hope :) Love you guys, Shawn & Andrew Check out https://fractureme.com/ and use our code COUPLE25 for 25% off your first order! Get the best pillow EVER from Lagoon! ▶ https://lagoonsleep.com/pages/lagoon-the-couple-things-podcast-from-shawn-johnson-east-andrew-east Beam Kids is now available online at shopbeam.com/COUPLETHINGS Take advantage of our exclusive discount of up to 40% off using code COUPLETHINGS Subscribe to our newsletter ▶ https://www.familymade.com/newsletter Follow our podcast Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/shawnandandrewpods/ Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawnjohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en #Dating #DatingAdvice #DatingTips #OnlineDating #ShawnAndAndrewPods Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up everybody? Welcome back to Couple Things with Sean and Andrew. Today we're talking about online. We are reacting to online dating advice. I am very excited. I am very glad we are no longer dating. We have seen none of this advice, but we're going to go through and give you our live reaction. I imagine there's going to be some pretty solid tips, I've had to guess. Hopefully. But also maybe some ridiculous ones. Yeah. You know what? I think the online dating world seems terrifying. I agree.
we never partook did you actually Andrew did you partake did you dabble I have never had
swiping I've never had a dating app profile but I will say that seems like an interesting
workaround to the question what else is there no I will say the only the only reason we ever
started social media sorry the only reason I got a social media account was so that I could
tweet at you yeah and then slide into your DMs so in that capacity
We are experts.
We freaking did it.
And now we're married.
We're online dating experts, is what I have to say.
Which is so funny even the whole like sliding into DMs because your brother set us up.
Why didn't he just exchange numbers?
I feel like there's a certain way to go about things.
And if it's like, I feel like I had to test the waters myself.
And if it was, if it was me asking for your number through my brother, it might feel like a little more pressure on your part.
You know what I'm saying?
I have never asked this.
I'm going to put you on the hot seat for a second, babe.
I want to go back.
I'm nervous.
I want to go back.
Okay.
To the very first time you talked to Guy, your oldest brother.
Yeah.
And he brought me up.
What was the conversation?
You know how Guy gets giggly?
Yes.
This is how I'm remembering it.
He's giggly.
He was like, I just sat with Sean Johnson for two hours at Taylor Finney's bike race.
Yep.
And he's like, I think she's interested in Vanderbilt.
You should connect with her.
And I think that's about how it went.
I was in the middle of like two days,
so I don't think it was like a long conversation.
And like two chicks?
Stop.
No, but it was like him being giggly
because he gets excited about things like that.
But what was it about him being giggly
that then was like, oh, I should set up a Twitter account
and DM her?
Like, did he say, like, you should pursue me?
or like
He said he had a great conversation with you
So it was like
You were getting the
You're picking up what he was putting down
It like
I mean look here I was
A young 20 year old
Guy
So if it's a pretty looking girl
Like you are
Who gets along with my brother
Like you did
Probably worth a shot
You know
Let's test the waters a little bit
What do you think about that
I like it
I also remember
He didn't give me much information on you
other than like I knew his last name was East
I knew he said Andrew
at some point in some way I found a family picture
and I deduced
who you were in a picture
vaguely I probably had the long hair going at that point
you did I loved it anyways
anyways
did you ever partake in online dating
never
never
But you would slide in DMs.
DMs.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's our extent of our experience.
Like back in the day, that was the thing.
Obviously, it's become like a whole algorithm thing and there's all these games and gimmicks and tutorials and all this, like the game within a game.
So I'm excited to dive into this and see if it resonates with how we would stylistically approach dating.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But before we get into that, let's give you a little life update.
I think we just got word that it's been right over a month since Beam launched and there are about 20,000 customers who have tried out Beam and the feedback has been the best thing ever.
It's been so much fun because we just got a call from a friend and they said their kid has trouble going to the bathroom.
They don't eat anything.
They don't eat anything.
So much so they're about to take them to the pediatrician because they're really concerned.
this friend is very like blunt in such a beautiful way like there's no hiding there's no
people pleasing it's like it is what it is she's like I've been trying this secretly because
if I hated it or we hated it we didn't you know want to hurt your feelings and she's like it has
literally changed our life this could go to the bathroom twice a day now and craves it like
asks for it every single morning when he wakes up and it's funny people will stop us on the street
and say thank you so much for being my kid loves it so
I do want to say we have had many requests.
There is a pocket of people who have children who don't like chocolate.
Like chocolate is not their thing.
But you guys have requested and we hear you.
We have talked to a lot of you about new flavors.
We have ordered new flavors, two new ones so far.
And we are working on more as quickly as possible.
We're trying to make them absolutely perfect.
So our kids, our little lab testers, are trying to,
trying to find the next ones.
But so far we have
chocolate chip cookie
coming, which
it does not taste like chocolate.
It is Drew's favorite.
It's really good.
It tastes like chips a hoy.
And then we have strawberry,
which tastes like strawberry nestquick.
But just so you know,
strawberry is green.
Just so you know.
Also, well, if you haven't tried it out,
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yes you know what else i've been thinking about though babe is um the watch time from subscribers
i just i just saw this 56% of people that watch our videos are not subscribed to the
video bro but just click the button can i say selfishly like it would really help us out
in like a really big way if you just press subscribe yeah and we promise you if you do that
You can turn out the notifications.
You don't have to, like, do any of that.
Just subscribe.
But we'll promise you that we will continue to work for unique guests and unique conversations
with those guests and increase the production quality and all the things so that we can
bring you the best experience because that's our goal.
We're not going to be the most clickbaity, most poignant or controversial show.
But what I was thinking about the other day, someone was talking about God and like, man,
think about how your life would change.
if you meditated on God and all he's done for you,
like think about how much more grateful you might be.
You think about how much more top of mind,
like values and virtues might be
and how that would change your life.
And what I was thinking about with our show,
which is not God, just let me clarify,
but like, we're out here trying to freaking stay married.
You know what I'm saying?
We're out here trying to have interesting conversations.
What I love is your perspective
is way different to mine
when we do these interviews.
And we're out here just exploring topics,
I think, in a distinct way.
Your background is incredible.
And I think your perspective is amazing
as a result of that.
That was a tangent.
Let's get back on track.
I appreciate that.
Last thing I'll say is Jet had his first t-ball game this weekend.
And that was a peak moment in life, to be honest.
And if he never plays any sport again, I'll be happy.
But he had his little jersey on, his little belt, socks.
So much fun.
We had hot dogs and concession stands.
And it literally brought me back to, like, my childhood.
I'm not living vicariously.
All I have to say is I did really enjoy it.
And I told Andrew, I'm not trying to live vicariously either.
I'm trying to separate this.
But this was not the lifestyle I grew up in.
I grew up at a gym, which is all year round.
You don't, it's not like you have your outdoor experiences or anything.
We're inside all year round.
So getting to experience this for the first time
literally felt like a dream come true.
So much fun.
Which is not, I'm not, like if he never wants to go back,
that's totally fine, that's on him.
But it was still like a dream come true.
He had fun, Drew had fun, playing in the river,
meeting new friends, bear had fun, meandering around.
So it was a fantastic weekend.
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So anyway, to the episode, reacting to online dating advice.
Here's the thing.
This is like relationships.
I'm studying social psychology right now in school.
I think relationships are the reason we're here.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's important.
And I like the topic.
This is what I listen to for podcasts and books and articles I read about and books I read.
So that's where the idea I came from is like I kept.
coming across these articles about people giving different advice.
And I was like, I wonder, I wonder what dating advice the internet would have.
So I am curious, Sean, have you ever sought the internet for any type of relationship advice?
Google, what do I do if my husband does X, Y, Z?
Like, relational, soft skill stuff.
Yeah.
Do you have an example?
I don't know.
I don't know if I have an example, but I do think there is a lot.
Back in the day, even now, where I feel like seeking Google is the same as like reading a book.
It's all like, how can I be a better wife?
What are like, I don't know.
Maybe not so much now as it was like back in the day of, I think there was a lot around the wedding.
Oh, man.
I don't know.
Less so now. Here's just a, this is a rant that I'll have.
Yes, I have things like gift.
or what do I do, like, certain things in pregnancy, I feel like, post-pregnancy, ideas for
like postpartum, things like that.
Remember a lot of things in pregnancy.
And honestly, I have strong feelings about this because in this world of AI and Google, where
you're turning to the internet more than you're turning to your family or your parents,
you kind of come up with this monoculture, hey, we're all trying to,
do this same recommended output that Google gave us applied to way different context.
And I think it takes the context out of it, which makes it less applicable.
I also think it takes the style and culture away from the person.
So I think Google is helpful.
It can give you a good starting point.
But don't forget your freaking friends and family are there and probably have valuable insight to what we try to do with our videos and maybe even with these hot takes of online dating advice that we're about to go through.
hopefully I think the best case scenario is you you watch what we do or you hear what we're
about to go through and you say oh I really agree with that I don't really agree with that and
you kind of start navigating through what your style is I think getting that more explicitly
top of mind is really helpful and it's like a fun adventure especially if you're walking through
this with someone you're dating or etc so but don't just go with the first thing that pops up on
Google. You also have tailored advice from friends, family, and closed circle that's perfectly
tailored to you. Yeah, they know you. Yeah. Google doesn't. I mean, Google probably knows the
worst part of you, to be honest. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyway. This is a long list.
Okay, let's hit it. So, after we say it, say if you agree with it or not, and then we'll dive in.
All right. First one, forget flirting. Just say hello. People get
too caught up and waiting on someone to lock eyes across the room.
So instead, if you want to approach someone, do it.
I don't like the headline.
I think flirting is actually very important.
It's like part of the courting process and stuff.
But I do agree.
Like, rip the band-aid and say hello.
I agree.
Don't be caught up in saying like, in your mind he should say high first.
Like, what if he's not noticing?
Whatever.
Definitely say hello.
Someone has to break the ice first, but flirting is important.
Next, give it a second date.
Unless the first date was truly disastrous, always give the second day to try.
We tend to see people's flaws first, which means we may make mistakes as we view pet peeves for deal breakers.
These are all from The Guardian, by the way.
We have like seven different websites that each gave their advice.
I agree.
I actually have some friends, you and I have some friends who,
we get really frustrated because they'll go on one date and they're like, oh, I was kind of bored
or they weren't tall enough or whatever. Give it a second date. Because personality and like the
way you get to know someone, I think is really important. I agree. Yeah, I think I mostly agree.
Here's something else, tangent. I have to go off for a second. The whole online dating world,
we said this. We were talking about this with someone the other day. The online.
dating world gives you the ability to make every possible opinion of someone before you ever meet
them. Yeah. You fill out these online dating forms saying, here are my hobbies. This is what I'm
interested in. This is my career, my resume, how tall I am, my hair color, how I like to dress.
Like, you paint this entire picture and you form an opinion on someone else or let someone
form an opinion of you
so then when you go on a first date
one if you don't
come to that date being that
exact person
you're already ruining
like sending yourself up a failure yeah
because like whoa this didn't meet my expectations
that's super interesting I never thought about that
two you're taking away a lot of conversation
a lot of curiosity of like
what are your hobbies
and the delivery of those
like that answer
gives you a lot of context
as to like I like canoeing
I went canoeing once though
and it was absolutely hysterical and it was so much fun
because we went to this whatever
you know I just
I think these online platforms
you lose so much
ability to truly get to know a personality
and a whole human as like
their whole character
because you go in saying like
oh, they love football so much.
That's kind of a, I don't know.
I don't know.
When in reality, that's all they post about or whatever.
And maybe it doesn't get accurately represented.
I also think, like, it does take a certain amount of inertia or a higher amount of energy
to change your opinion of somebody once it's already formed than it does to initially create it.
So you are kind of swimming upstream in that regard.
But also, it's like, well, this is the day and age we live in.
So what are you going to do?
I just don't like it.
I think if you are on online dating apps, you should make your profile as small as possible.
And not give out a lot.
Are you just limiting your candidate school, though?
Anyway, I will adjust this piece of advice.
Give it a second date if it's a maybe or a yes.
If it's a hard no, then don't.
With the asterisk of widen your guide.
guidelines.
Yes.
Third, know your hard lines and make them known.
Is it helpful to know which lines you won't cross,
such as political differences or ambivalence about children?
I think that's supposed to be.
It is helpful to know which lines you won't cross.
Make sure your date knows where you stand on deal breakers very early on
so you don't waste their time.
Not on the first date.
I don't think so on the first date.
here's the thing relationships are not meant to change you you should not go into a relationship with the expectation that the other person will change to your liking but relationships do change you so like they do things like children maybe that's hard no and maybe that's enough but also I think there's a lot of topics where it's like yeah probably you're going to change your perspective on things as you should yeah I don't think you should go into a first date and be like
I am left or right, and I'm never going to move.
You know, like, that's not a good way to open yourself up to a conversation.
Like, we shouldn't hit the really heavy hitters hard.
It's almost like a type of arrogance in some regard, but carry on.
But I do think there's a world in which you should probably show up to a first date
a little bit with, like, I'm here to find a long-term partner,
or I'm here to literally just hook up and never see you again.
like I think
you should be forthcoming
maybe in that
respect
and then everything else
may be saved
for like maybe a second date
yeah I mean I agree with this
as long as it's executed
with a soft and curious style
where it's like hey if you're
if you're just like
this is not a conversation
that doesn't sound like someone
I want to be on a date with
like this is how I am
take it or leave it
that sucks
yes but if you're like
hey this is my take on that
what do you think
and it's like wow it's a
conversation now we're freaking get to know each other and getting different perspectives and
that might be the whole point of the whole whole ordeal and you shouldn't go in judgmental like if someone
if you are on a date with someone who has the complete opposite belief of you that's totally fine
you can respect that and not like yeah whatever that's right also we have john chris headed our way
right now so we're going to try to make it through this episode and then go through that interview
so let's roll great these next ones are from cup of joe moving away from the guard
and advice. Their first
piece of advice is Google at your own risk.
If you exhaustively research your date
before meeting, you may hold off on asking
them questions like where you go to school, what you do
for a living because you already know all the answers.
This is what I was saying. Don't do that. Don't go
all FBI on them. Please.
I agree. You're really good at it though.
I'm so good at it. It is fun and also
such an instinct to do that.
But when girls start going through like
all the exes that they've had and all the
girls that they've posted a picture with and like nothing about that is healthy yeah i agree you
read the next one if you don't want to date don't date it is easy to feel the pressure from friends or
family to put yourself out there but no one gains from you going on dates you don't want to be on
i agree unless you're like in the true mindset of this is something i'm pursuing and i want
you can't be doing it for other people i agree but if you don't want to date because you're
self-conscious or
um whatever
like if it's a
I think there's a little bit of a personal challenge
that you might need to overcome you know what I'm saying
because you should push yourself in certain regards
but if it's just not something you're interested in right now
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All right, next up, this advice is from the Huffington Post.
Their first advice is to make a list of every quality you want in a spouse.
People think that by creating a very specific list of what they are looking for,
this will help them to find love that is compatible with their desires.
Some people also write down a list of non-negotiables prior to dating.
What do you think about this?
I don't like this.
I feel like we talk about this.
Really?
Yes.
Really?
Say more.
I think you can have some non-negotiables, but I don't think you should make a
very specific list of like this is where I think people get caught up with
looks and height and hobbies and like where they live and like
like when we met it didn't make any sense at all we didn't even live on the same
coast as one another yeah I was working in entertainment you were in college I was
like I basically was a 30 year old at the time and you know the way that I
functioned in life and it like it didn't make sense on paper so to that respect it wouldn't
have been I don't know I'm in favor of this because I think our friends that you've mentioned
they'll go on dates and they'll be like I didn't I don't want to go on a second date because
that just wasn't into them it's like well what about them were you not into you know what
like having specific adjectives
that say I need someone who's a little more respectful
or a little more social and outgoing
or a little more rambunctious
or maybe a little quieter or maybe a little funny
like I just I'm in favor of making a list
to build an awareness and specificity with like
what exactly do you like about this person and don't like
if we're viewing this almost like an experiment
I think it's so dangerous, though, because you can end up making your list so specific that you weed out people who could very well be such wonderful contenders.
I don't think the list should be the master file.
I don't think it should be the only thing making your decision.
I think it's more of a almost like journaling, reflecting exercise.
Like on your list, when we started dating, all you wanted was a brunette.
Okay.
I do.
Stop.
You do like Burnett's?
Yeah.
You got me blushing.
What?
I'm not blushing, actually.
You have to move the conversation for it.
You're blushing because you like burnets?
Again, I think it's a style of how this advice is executed more so than agreeing or disagreeing with the surface level there.
Second, don't share too much on the first day.
Sharing too much about yourself, your family, past, etc.
or it can be overwhelming to someone you just met.
Keep things vague for the first day
and learn more about each other as time goes on.
I did just hear this term,
I believe it's called floodlighting
that is like a generational thing
where the young people will just like
word bomb at everything.
Which people always talk about
I like how open and authentic you are.
And I think people get that confused
with like oversharing.
You know what I'm saying?
So finding the balance, I think, is crucial.
I don't think you should consume a conversation.
Myself?
Yeah, that should be like one-sided all about me.
But I don't think you should intentionally try to be vague
just because you heard that you shouldn't share details
about yourself on the first.
This is why this stuff gets really frustrating to me
because if you start making all these rules about a date,
then if you have two quirky people meeting for the first time
who want to do things a different way,
but in the back of their mind they're like,
oh, but the list told me not to,
you're forcing yourself to be in a box that's not you,
and then all of a sudden you're on a first date
that actually doesn't represent you.
So to me, it's like, yeah, go say hi.
You don't have to wait for them to make the first move.
I'm really enjoying your perspective on this, by the way.
Thank you for sharing all this.
I think it boils down to like emotional intelligence that you do that people talk about.
It's like, hey, certain things are appropriate in certain situations, but not in all situations.
And knowing what to share and when is a very, it's like dynamic process.
You should not overshare.
I agree.
But if someone's like, hey, I lost my dad or whatever, sorry I'm sad, I lost my, like, knowing
how to navigate that situation and
showing empathy.
But also we've sat down
here with couples who've been married
for 40 years and a
husband will be like, you know what on the first day? I said, I'm
going to marry you. And the wife
was like, I thought he was absolutely crazy.
But here we are 40 years later.
Yeah, but doing that with a joking
like sly smile feels different than
like a super intense
a little bit. It is like, oh, this is a stocker.
Which is EQ. But
what I'm saying is like to
write a list and say don't overshare don't say that on the first date don't do this there's actually
asterisks and like exceptions to everything on on any list ever right so in general i would say go on
more dates to build emotional quotient and also spend time with your friends and family that will
help you build that emotional quotient anyway next up never kiss on the first date this can be seen
as distasteful and forward and should be saved for consecutive dates do you
agree with
in general
in general yes
when we've talked
about this
lightly on previous episodes
I think
there are signals
that are given when
like
I'm making a move
on the first day physically
that might
trigger like psychological
walls to be built in your mind
where it's like oh what's he in
this for. So I'm not saying that's always a case. I'm just saying I would play it safe probably.
I don't know what your full past is if I'm going on the first day. So I would lean on the side of
moving slowly physically. You know what I'm saying? For sure. So we kissed on the second date?
First, uh, second or third, yeah.
Well, but it was like the fourth time we had hung out, right?
Because that was, that was like the second night you were in Nashville.
Oh, because of L.A.
Yeah.
And then IndyCar.
That doesn't count.
We weren't, that wasn't like a date.
That was like a, hey.
Okay.
Okay, great.
So like maybe third or fourth.
Yeah.
Anyway, you got the next one.
Let go of dating stigmas.
Everyone wants to meet their partner in a cute, organic.
way but if you meet someone online or through a dating app that's fine too don't be ashamed of how
you met let go of any stigmas of how meeting someone is supposed to look and just enjoy yourself i agree
with that yeah there's no stigmas it's like if you meet someone you meet someone great yeah on to the
next thing yeah next it's a numbers game date as much as humanly possible some people recommend
casually going on dates with multiple people out once until you get to know them better or to
you want to get serious with one person.
What are we calling for a group date here?
Is that what that is?
I think they're saying like set up a ton of dates.
And keep dating all of them until you find one that you're serious.
I don't like that at all.
You think that just, why?
I don't think you're invested in the curiosity of one person.
Does that make sense?
Like I think you should go on a date with someone.
And if you want to go on another date with them,
book another date if not book a date with someone else but don't book like four different people
and keep consecutively dating them seeing oh I kind of like this guy more than the other guy so like
yeah yeah I agree but maybe I should give him another chance like then you're not actually interested
on someone you're not actually pursuing them to get to know them because you always have other
people you're thinking about and then if I fast forward three or four dates later you're like
I think everyone has beautiful qualities that are really likable and so if you
you spend three dates with option A and option B concurrently,
then that's going to be really confusing.
We're like, well, I like this about them,
and I can't leave that because this person doesn't really have that and that way.
You kind of juggled a little bit, though.
I cut it pretty soon after you were like, I'm in, I cut it.
That is true.
First of all, you drug me out for nine months.
I'm just saying.
You put me through the ringer.
You juggled a little bit.
Anyway.
All right
Did you
How long after
my Nashville visit
Did you cut it off?
That week.
Okay
Because that makes sense
No no
I cut it off in Indy
I said this done
Okay
Yeah
Because then you were actually
texting me
Freakingly
Yeah
And I was like
Yeah
And the time between
Indy and Nashville
That was like
May 26th
June 4th, or about then, was CMAFest.
So, yeah, it was somewhere in that week.
Okay.
Next, these are from E-Harmony.
Dating advice.
Keep the sexual content to a minimum over text before and after the first date.
All right, it's better to err on the side of caution when it comes to making sexual
comments over text without body language to give you cues.
It can be hard to tell when it's appropriate or if they're into it.
If you're feeling bold, you can always ask if it's okay to take the conversation there.
Honestly, I'm going zero.
Zero sexual content.
Yeah.
Unless, like, I mean, maybe this is just our style, but like...
I just live in a world where I'm like, someone's going to see that, and it's going to get posted somewhere.
I have never understood nudes.
Never.
I'm saying, get it live, man.
That's how I feel.
I agree.
Also...
It's too risky.
It's too risky.
in it have you ever sent to nude god no me neither
i'm glad i'm glad to hear it yeah okay yeah next it's okay i'd be fine it'd be fine
i have never understood nudes i've extra never understood a dude sending nude i was just
gonna say i'd like to see you try to take one yeah also that whole process just feels humiliating
like what what are we doing here what are we doing next up
your date's body language, match your body language to your date's body language. Like, lean in
when they lean in, touch them when they touch you is a well-known flirtation technique called mirroring.
It's a great way to make your interest known without being too obvious about it. Are these all
physical oriented here? This feels weird. I actually generally agree that like mirroring someone
and saying, oh hey, thank you for sharing that. You know, repeating things people share verbally,
but also yeah the body language mirroring is real it helps people feel comfortable yeah but you don't
have to you can also like have your own body language i agree i agree with you also the next one what
okay go ahead if he calls too soon after the first date something must be wrong with him what
but also if he doesn't call soon enough after the first date something must be more than throw that in
the trash and don't ever think about that again oh my gosh what are we doing internet again it took me
like nine months to call Andrew.
This says some say if your date is into you, they'll show it and you'll know it.
However, some say that calling too soon shows desperation.
No, you don't know what people are going through.
What are we talking about here?
I will say, we talk about parenting advice and...
I think I texted you right after a date and vice versa.
Yeah.
You're going parenting advice.
Ultimately, you know, Emily Astor's book talks about there's a ton of different ways
to do parenting and most of them are good.
There's a ton of different ways to call somebody
or contact someone after the first day
and probably most of them are good.
It's how you execute it
and the intention and what you say.
If I call you right after
and I'm like, hey, you forgot your wallet,
that's going to be different than like
I'm obsessed with you.
I don't know.
There's just so much gray area here.
There's also a gray area to say like,
can't stop thinking about you.
I had fun.
Like, that would make any girl giddy.
Yeah.
All right, next.
Today, we are doing something really fun
and slightly terrifying.
We are going to be scrolling deep into the camera rolls for a little game we're calling
Camera Roll Confessionals.
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So we're going to scroll together
and answer some fun,
totally unfiltered questions
about what we've been capturing
on our phones.
This could get interesting
or super embarrassing, I'm not sure.
Probably both,
but also cute.
So let's go.
All right, first question,
how many photos do you have
in your camera role right now?
No lying.
Let's look.
Wait, how do you find out?
Let's see.
If you go to your photos,
top left.
Oh, my gosh.
86,000, 42.
$100,282.
Oh my, what?
Gosh, Apple owns us.
For the rest of our life, we're going to be paying subscriptions.
They do.
Good heavens.
The amount of cloud.
I know.
I know.
Okay.
Next question.
How many photos do you have of me versus how many you have of the kids?
Okay.
26,116.116.
Of me?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I have 14,000 of you, and I have 20,000 total of the kids.
kids. I have. I have 33,000 photos of the kids, 26,000 photos of you, give or take.
I mean, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's a fair split. Okay, ready for round two? Yes, let's do it.
So first up, find your absolute favorite photo in your camera roll right now. No thinking, just go.
That's impossible. I know. We have the same one. Okay, great. It's like, this is taken last night,
the kids cuddling. Yes. It's one of the first pictures we've ever had, like, of them intentionally
hanging out together and it's so sweet.
Pictures worth a thousand words
and it's like you see your kids
being sweet to each other
and you think about all the work
it's taken to get them this face.
I know.
That is a sweet picture.
I know.
Okay.
A photo that made you cry.
Oh.
I mean, so many of the favorite ones
for different reasons.
Yeah.
You have one?
Mm-hmm.
I know exactly based off how you're
going to be about my dad.
Which one?
Oh, that's a great picture.
Oh.
Yeah.
there's a there's a photo of all our family taken at that wedding my brother's wedding and that one
makes me cry but this was this was a picture i picked out our last family christmas all together
yeah just you don't know what you got so it's gone yeah you know good memories good tears so
strangest random photo this is round three yeah okay so something that makes absolutely no sense
i got uh easy i don't know why that was in my favorites yeah what is that it's all my perfume
bottles that is very random yeah okay this was one taking a couple years ago of us at apple
headquarters with apple co-founder steve wasniak who fang girled over sean and it was it's it's weird
because of the story of how it is he like came up to you was so excited you guys did dancing with
the stars together so i guess you know this legend of a guy he's so sweet he doesn't own a phone
and he's like hey sean i've been reading about you in the paper it's so good to see you yeah
this guy reads a newspaper you know everyone else is using the
phone that he created that's changed
history. He was the act. Love you.
All right, round five, the last photo
that you took. Okay. Great. Pull it up.
This should be easy to find. Got it.
This is Sean and Jet eating breakfast
this morning. Wait, what? They were sitting there
looking cute and you guys were doing the same thing.
So like, doing this, eating
the same thing in the same way.
Bear, holding a frother
in the cutest little dinosaur outfit
with his beanie. That outfit.
He always has to have something in his hand,
some sort of like staff.
We do have one more thing to do before we wrap this up.
Since this segment is brought to you by fracture,
we have each picked two photos from our camera rolls to print on glass,
but we didn't tell each other which ones we chose.
And now we're surprising each other with them.
Are you ready?
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay.
First one.
Man, it is quality fives.
Oh, my gosh, look at that.
This is a gift for you.
Oh, thank you, baby.
I like that picture a lot.
I like this picture a lot.
Thank you.
Wait, they're both from the same place.
Look how pretty look.
That's my favorite smile.
you've ever had.
Okay. Okay. Are you kidding me? You kidding me without who you are?
Next one. Okay.
You picked one of the same pictures.
How about that?
And this was in Paris.
I love that picture. I like the picture because there's a funny backstory. I showed up totally
underdressed and it was a super fancy event.
But you weren't underdress.
Well, it was a red carpet and there's like all these big time people.
Do you remember getting ready for this event?
We were so sweaty.
and so gross coming back from work.
We had literally 30 seconds to get dressed.
Oh, man.
Yeah, yeah, good times, good times.
A lot of memories that that picture represents.
Anyway, honestly, those photos look ridiculously good printed on glass.
The quality is incredible and the glossiness is so pretty.
The color is really crispy.
We need to do this more.
I agree.
I feel like we need to cover every inch of our house and just pictures.
Honestly, the moments are so special.
But how do you select them?
It's a lot.
Let's just print them all off.
All 100,000, we'll just do glass everywhere in our house.
The moments are too special,
and they deserve more than to just sit on our camera roll.
Yes, this is slightly chaotic, but also so fun.
So let us know if you want us to do this again
because I feel like there are so many more weird
and also sentimental gems in our camera rolls.
That's right.
And if you're listening right now,
open your camera roll and see what your strangest
or most emotional photo is, and let us know.
Tag us in it, if you want to share it because we want to see it.
That's right.
Who plans the date should often pay?
If a date invited you to a concert,
you might be a bit put off if they ask you to reimburse,
them for the ticket no just have an open dialogue and I would also defer to the manpaying
I agree because right or not that is kind of the the stereotypical way to do it in some ways
subconscious expectation yeah so dang it I would I would suggest that I mean I agree
but like yeah I agree what no no I would agree you think that's like super old school
I think people would argue that it is
But
I think we are old school
You think so?
Yeah, I do
I can't tell if we're old school or new
Look, you got all these fancy clothes on, your style
You're like new age
You got the mom jeans, you know
Are we old school though?
We are
Okay, last
You may grow to like the person
Even if you don't right now
Even if the first date doesn't go as planned
And maybe the person will grow on you
The longer you see them
yeah just give it time people there's there's depth people that you have to learn yeah that's why i think
if it's a maybe or a yes go for it yeah go on the second date just like that other piece of advice we
heard because i think to know is to love and you get to know someone by spending time with them
and being curious with them
and trying
new experiences with them,
putting them in new context.
You gave me butterflies
when we were dating.
Always.
Then butterflies is gone now, though.
Bay is gone.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I actually driving home the other day.
Well, you were,
Sean's been busy in New York.
She's like,
freaking international superstar.
So she's been traveling everywhere.
And I just miss you.
every hour you're gone is sad that sounds so cheesy but here we are 12 years into this thing
I confess that I missed you on Saturday when I was with you all day but I still missed you
somehow it's pathetic hilarious I love you that was fun all right let us know in the comments
what topic we should do next leave the show rating review also share any other good or bad
dating advice you've seen online would love to hear what you all are coming across on the
inner web and we'll see you next time i'm andrew i'm sean or the east fam out