Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 262 | Reacting to Your Hot Takes and Stories

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. With Sean and Andrew. Today's another dear Sean and Andrew. Very excited about this. Very excited about this. Reacting to your hot takes on our life. That's right.

So what this episode is, is it's inspired by Dear Abby, like a newspaper column where you all send in your questions, hot takes, crazy stories, or ask for advice, and we read them and we answer them in real time. We have not seen these. So these are honest and open reaction. are about other people's lives not ours maybe a little bit of both we shall see but we did part one of this you all loved it um we did a part two of this you loved even more so these are fun interesting

and shocking to us they are and we want to do another one real quick though i feel like we needed to do a common of the day this one is from deborah because sometimes i feel like the way you both look at each other and laugh okay period that is the show ends and then you go into the back room and spar oh gotcha catch you gotcha there was a second sentence behind that oh she thinks like we get mad at each other yeah she's spot on honestly we don't ever go spar though no usually it's through these that we by the end of it we're back to normal normal i honestly am so grateful for this podcast yeah we've talked so much more than we otherwise would have about so about so many more topics than we otherwise would have yeah and i've really learned about you so I'm grateful for that. But reminder, some of these are actual real-life hard things that you're going through. And so take our advice with a grain of salt. Don't do anything life-altering because we said to consult the people close to you and professionals, please.

Also, just a quick little life update here. We are getting into the swing of prepping for kindergarten already, even though school is not over this year. I told Andrew today, I think I might cry when our kids leave the school that they're at right now. Yeah, me too. They're growing up. It's been a precious time, a precious phase. And I guess there's an end to every chapter, so I'm just going to be sad for a little bit. Also, we're getting ready for something really big that we can't talk about yet.

Yeah. And we're also going to be vlogging our way through Asia and the Middle East. So I'm pumped about that. So if you have a question or hot take that is not shared today, we have a dear story. Sean and Andrew tab on our page. We'll include that in the show notes. It'll be a little link. But let's jump into it, shall we?

Yes. Okay. To start. This is for Sean. How long after C-section did your stomach start to feel completely normal? It's been four months and I'll still feel sore after workouts occasionally. Just wondering when does that go away and also wondering how you got over fears of another C-section when you wanted another baby. Okay.

I love this question. but I think this this is something I could stand on a box and preach about okay okay I get really frustrated by not these questions by the lack of information our doctors

prepare a C-section mama's for okay hear me out hear me out okay a C-section Emerald is a very very extreme surgery you are cutting through a lot of layers, muscles, tendons, everything.

Yeah, I don't know what I expected out of a C-section. I kind of thought it was just maybe like right under the skin, but you got to go through the top skin, then the bottom skin, then the muscle, then the womb. I mean, it's a lot. A lot of things. And so I will say this. When does my stomach start to feel completely normal?

I have no sense of remotely normal until at least a year and I think that is what every doctor should be preparing you for I approach a C-section so as should everyone else who has a C-section like an orthopedic surgery

it takes at least a year for nerves to return like physiologically like for them to like come back together and have feeling So you need to give yourself at least a full year to like minimally heal. So the fact that you're still feeling things in four months, totally normal. Your body is not nearly healed yet. Like you're at 16 weeks.

Think about that. We're 16 months out. Yeah. Do you have full feeling now? No. Really? No. My C-section scar and stuff.

Like I still have places where I don't have feeling or like nerves will start to come. back and you'll feel some pain and scar tissue and I still have some like um crowning like when I do ab um workouts so like it's a very long process but you're healing so much anyways it was crazy after the second C-section you had uh like a really ropey scar keloided keloided and then they fix that boy they burnt some skin on off. I was there live. That was a lot. But now they polished it off a little more. But it's a beautiful part about you, babe. Thank you, baby. Next question from Shelby. Do you think you can be

with someone long term in a different political party? Yes. Do you think you could be with someone long term that's different? Than you? You should. I think Sean and I probably feel pretty strong. about this like yo there's going to be a lot of places in the relationship that are different and you don't see eye to eye on i don't prescribe to the whole my political party and views is the most important deepest part about me no um is there overlap to like what your religious views are your lifestyle yeah sure but like are you the type of person that can have political views

respectfully and be curious about other people's political views because if you're respectful and curious yeah your marriage quality and if you're not then you know let's let's do some polishing off otherwise you're just looking to marry yourself yeah that would be not cool in my situation or mine diane this is my hot take i do not care about celebrities at all i know a lot of people care to know what's going on in people's lives, their marriage, family life, and all the drama, but I do not care about celebrities in Hollywood in the slightest. I think it's a total waste of time to be consumed by people's lives you don't even know. It all feels negative, like clickbait and sad. Sean and Andrew, thanks for being you. You are the real celebrities to me, the kind of

celebrities I actually care about. Wow. Thank you, Diane. Thanks. I kind of like the way she wrote that. It was like Dr. Seuss. I do not care about them at all. I do not care about them in the slightest at all. Green eggs and ham. I do, I do admire. that about you, babe. Thank you. I do agree with Diane. I think sometimes we care too much when it like doesn't matter.

Like do we really need to be writing headlines about what someone ate for breakfast? Do we really care? Extreme cases are intriguing and you can learn from them. Sometimes celebrities

embody those extreme cases or bring those out. Murphy's law of anything that can't happen will happen also kind of overlaps with celebrity in my mind where you're like What crazy thing is going to happen next? And then also gossip. You know people enjoy that. That's just that's just part of the human brain. So we were big fans of The Bachelor of Bachelorette for years there And you know, that was all kind of part of it where you're like Spices up life a little bit to have some drama, you know, it's not yours someone else's Anyway, Emily, but thank you, Diane. Thank you. Emily says, my mother passed when I was young due to her alcoholism. My siblings and dad are now addicts or bad influences, so it's hard to maintain healthy relationships. I've moved away and now have two young kids, and it's been hard to not have a village or hands on help. Any advice for a young mom doing it all on her own? Am I wrong for keeping my distance from my family? It's hard to not feel guilty when my kids won't have close relationships. with them, even though I know it's healthier and safer for them this way, but it's hard

having young kids and doing it alone. Wow. Sorry to hear that, Emily. Kudos to you for having an awareness about that and a desire to change. What are your thoughts? I want to tread carefully here. We think, I don't ever want to hear. encourage someone to distance themselves from family.

However, if they have crossed any lines that you, you know, have made for the safety of your children, then, like you said, you have, if it's safer for you to have distance, then you need to. But I would say, if the distance is needed for safety and you want to continue that, then you kind of have to get rid of the guilt because if you are making it for the safety and for like the better choice of your children and your family then you have to like forgive yourself and forgive them and move on and build your own circle like build your own family based out of like friends and the people around you that you can I feel like we've really done that here in

Nashville um on top of our family is like we've built a circle and a community around us that we lean on for help when we don't have our parents. It's like our best friends or our neighbors and you just have to build that circle. But if those lines are slightly blurred where like the guilt is coming in because maybe you could try to like go back to your family and see if you could work things out, then maybe work on that. But like we don't know the details to know. Yeah. I mean, it's like every relationship is going to have friction. part of that is the refining it's like all right let's work through that but this i mean there's

definitely some friction where it's like hey nothing's changing they don't have a desire to change yeah so there probably is a healthy separation there but um yeah i would say being convicted in your choices goes a long way and uh sounds like you're a great mom anyway next up Anna hot take my fiance and I share our rose thorn bud and nectar with each other every night it's our way to connect and reflect with each other at the end of the day rose is our highlight or the best part of the day thorn is the lowest or worst moment of the day but is something we're looking forward to the next day or upcoming weekend if it's a slow week and nectar is something that we appreciate about the other this could be an action that they did something

that they said or just a trait you love about them that day the rose and thorn exercise is pretty common for groups and leadership programs, but adding in the nectar aspect was something we created. We've made it our own relationship ritual, and it's a great way to intentionally connect each night. I love it. Great job, Anna, and thank you for sharing. It's a routine and a rhythm that encourages communication, which is awesome. I think I might want to start doing that. I like it. Caroline says, I'm in a job where I'm jumping from contract to contract in media. I just want to settled down with my boyfriend. We both currently are in the Midwest, just separate areas. How do we navigate eventually finding our forever place to live? We are in our early 20s and have

been together for almost five years. Don't put the pressure on yourself to choose forever. Your forever place is your spouse. Everything else is technically temporary if you want it to be. Yeah, and this is an old guy thing to say, but maybe you consider living where you grew up. like where's your family where your parents this is it sounds it doesn't sound like they have the tough family situation

like Emily had above so like when you have kids when you're married you're gonna appreciate that more when your mom gets you know life happens and people get old and then you want to see them more

and uh yeah maybe consider that yeah but I would also say use the term forever loosely in the sense of like just because you buy a house and move in somewhere and say, we're going to be here forever.

If I have an opportunity to come up the next day, it doesn't mean you can't move. Yeah. Just a material item. Abby, what helps you rebuke the lies with body image struggles? Keeping a close circle around you that can tell you the truth. You have to keep practicing hearing the truth and saying the truth until you know what it is and you can recognize the lies and get rid of them.

I was always taught this sounds silly but to have like the angel and devil on your shoulders and they would I was always taught to have this like mental image of like who are you going to let win the fight and with all the thoughts that come into your brain about body image

like practice placing them to the voice if that makes sense like if I'm thinking something is that the angel saying it or is that the devil saying it and it's just you're literally learning how to um

categorize what is true and what is false does that make sense yeah so you'd say that was a difference between you being healthy in that area and not with community a group of people around you yeah we were watching the Taylor Swift documentary yesterday, the Miss Americana.

She's talking about her body image issues and journey. She says that you don't really know what's happening until you get to a point where it's like you're really deep in the hole. Does that resonate with you at all? Um, yeah. I don't think I realized I had a problem until I had a bad problem. He was kind of like,

yeah i don't know i think i also in my mind just kept telling myself i could handle it on my own until i couldn't handle it on my own and then it became a big issue so you have to trust other people enough and their perspective that you listen to yeah all right sean is a boss at cooking family dinners every once in a while i'll take a stab at cooking the full meal and it's always a reminder that it's a lot of work. I like to keep things simple yet delicious, which is why I'm a huge fan of Home Chef. You don't give yourself enough credit, babe. You're a great cup. But I agree, Home Chef is the best and keeps us on track with delicious meals when we run out of ideas or just need something quick. Users of leading meal kits have actually rated Home Chef number one in quality,

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Next up, tally, there are lots of social media pages popping up where people ask single people to put their names and locations in the comment of posts for other singles to see. People are encouraged to scroll through them and DM people they're interested in. Some pages will pick up people from the comments and do a highlight. on them, encouraging interested single followers to reach out to the person being highlighted. Thoughts on this use of social media, would you ever

do single highlights with a couple things? Okay. I apologize for this hot take from my perspective. Okay. But I'm going to say this. We work in social media. We see a lot of aspects of social media. Maybe people don't naturally see.

But as a mother, I would say don't ever do this. Ever, ever ever do not ever do this do never post your exact

name and location anywhere yeah that does seem concerning I would say like use a dating app can't you

have a at least go to a place that has a structure to it yeah yeah yep next one Confused girlfriend.

You got this. We're asking to put their names and locations in the comment. I've never heard of that. That was actually really... Please don't do that, Talley. Confused girlfriend. I've been dating a guy for a few months now. He's very respectful, ambitious, and shows servant leadership.

Wow. Great. He overall has a lot of qualities that I like. Oh, I don't know where this is going. The one thing that is confusing is he told me that he is atheist, but said he is open to going to church. with me and respects my beliefs and boundaries. He went to church with me last Sunday, was engaged the entire service, and when we went to lunch

afterwards and we talked about the sermon, he explained that he enjoyed it and explained what he agreed with and what he didn't agree with. How do I know if I should walk away from the relationship or if God wants me to show him who he is? Wow. He sounds like a good guy, you know. But what the frick? Does that even mean? You know what I'm saying?

I would say, honestly, seems like he's curious and engaged. I just don't, the older I get, another old guy thing, I have less and less patience for men, and I don't know how old these people are, but like you're out of college for a couple years. Like, there's no, oh yeah, I just don't know enough about her. I'm still thinking through it all. It's like at some point in your life, and this goes for religion and every other thing. you have to choose the path you can't just freaking waddle around you can't just be in in no man's land

I'm talking about with are you going to choose the girl to marry oh I'm still figuring it out are you going to choose a religion oh I'm still thinking through I don't know enough oh are you going to choose a career path you freaking commit to it dude and then you go down the path you see where that takes you I just I don't know and like maybe he's committed to atheism And in that case, I would say, not your guy. He's probably not your guy. If you are religious, then that would cause future problems that we could talk about right now. So that would include, like, okay, what school are your kids going to go to?

That's been an issue. What are you going to teach? What holidays are you going to practice? Yeah. What does your weekly cadence look like? Are you going to church? What kind of people are you spending time with? What conversations are you having around the dinner table?

What books are you reading the kids? If you guys haven't been with us forever, we have actually covered this topic before with professionals, with professional psychologists, relationship therapists, marriage therapists, dating app founders, in general consensus is like the only thing, one of the, like literally, I think the only thing that is kind of a deal breaker for relationships in general, long term like down the road it just statistically won't work is a difference of religion I'm not saying it doesn't because we have also had people on the show who are of differing religions who are thriving but that statistically has shown to be the largest hurdle in a relationship we have a friend who

was in a really serious relationship they loved each other which I honestly believe yeah that they loved each other and then they got to talking about marriage years down the line we're talking like six years of dating and it was like one person was one religion the other person went down their religion they actually like got to the point where they were trying to figure out even what type of wedding ceremony they're going to have and then they were like oh we can't do this and then how to raise kids and one wanted to do Christmas and one wanted to do Hanukkah and one needed to convert and one couldn't and it just yeah so they broke up and not that they lost those six years of their life,

but it was like, hey, whatever. Would you change it? I'm not sure, but you could probably save yourself from heartache. Confused girlfriend, I would say this. Have a serious conversation with him. If you're getting to a place of a serious, like if you're at the point where you're questioning, do I need to walk away from him?

That's a serious thought. Then be brave enough to have a serious conversation and say, look, I believe these things about you. You're very respectful, ambitious. You show servant leadership, all this stuff. But my religion and God is very important to me. And I need to know, are you open to this in the future? Or is this where you're staying?

And if it's where you're staying, I have to leave. Yeah, but I even hesitate with the open to this in the future. I know. Because the answer is going to be like, yes. And then you kick the can down the road. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

Okay. Paige. I really enjoy your family content on YouTube. And I'm trying to implement these beautiful goals and fun things to do with my husband. Thank you, too, and the staff that make this possible for my husband and I to watch. Wow. Thank you for sharing that page. No question on how to take there. And thank you to the team that does make this possible.

We have a blast doing it. That's all I'll say. A blast. So thank you for listening. Breka. Cute name. I was wondering if you have any tips for leaving D1 or professional athletics. I have found it hard to navigate this new season after college when every day I was told what to do for workouts, what to eat, etc.

So I'm interpreting this as she just graduated or something. She's not like leaving. I would say this. There are so many wonderful apps or programs or like free resources that you could use or you could even if you have the resources to go down the route and like hire people. But I would say look for structure that you can practice until you don't need structure anymore. like you can like almost like taper it off so look for an app or a service that gives you you know your dietetics and your dietitian your nutrition plans look for um either a personal

trainer or an app that gives you a training program or go find a new gym that has like a membership or a class structure um i always believe we we talk about better help a lot or a therapist please try to go find a therapist to kind of walk through this transition with there are free ones there are very affordable ones but graduating out of D1 professional

athletics where you're going from so much structure to none go find more structure yeah that takes a lot of effort though and it is overwhelming we're actually working on a like a calendar that schedules at your day in a similar

way that a football practice would be schedule for us. So it's like you're just on autopilot and you're just going from one thing to the next and it sets you up to achieve your goals. But I would say this. The gap here between high school and college is kind of a widely accepted thing, or a sabbatical even, call it that. I would say put yourself in a self-imposed three to six months sabbatical where it's just like there's no stress to rush the next thing. It's very much an exploratory. transitional period just so in your mind it's categorized as that and not as a oh my gosh I'm not doing anything and you feel like a failure because of that so call it a sabbatical

give yourself a timeline sit down with as many different people mentors friends family siblings um career prospects or like do job interviews do job shadowing really make the world your sandbox, get feedback on, hey, what have you seen that I'm good at? What talents do I have? Maybe talk to your teachers about that. Do some introspective reflecting, some prayer, journal, what do you want to do? And then start gradually, like, I would say after that three to six months sabbatical, do something, like sign up for a year-long gig, a job, and then see who that introduces you to, what you've learned. Does that get you? closer does that a year from now feel right or not but like make it a transition period and then

slowly do like smaller but gradually increasing commitments because I think you need to like start sampling things and then do do so thoughtfully and like with awareness of like this this is great I'm really enjoying this but it's totally different because the excitement and the feeling of talent applied talent doesn't feel as potent out of sports when you're like throwing a 90 mile on our fastball or doing triple double bat you're like this is my applied talent so much in the sweet spot but intellectually it's a little more diluted and soft it feels a little more ambiguous but i think in a long run can feel way more fulfilling when you're like oh my gosh god gave me a brain full of ideas or a network full of people that I can impact and change the world with.

That's really exciting. And so good luck to you, Becca. Breka. Next one. Amy. Hot take. I've been feeling like doing God's way of life is radical in the world's eyes. Marriage is one of the best things I've ever experienced, yet so many don't choose marriage. I feel closer to God because of my marriage and my capacity to love has increased. Be radical. and get married. I think I agree with everything except for the radical part. I would actually say just that doing God's way of life is like the naturally designed way.

You know, it's like it feels actually easier in some ways. She's saying she feels like it's radical in the world's eyes right now. So she's like, be radical. Hmm. Interesting. Okay. I like that, Amy. Hot take. Last step, babe. Megan, what are things or routines that keep you grounded?

I feel like with three kids under the age of five, we're feeling a bit unhinged and would love some advice on how to refocus and relax despite the fun but chaotic phase of life we're in. Wow. Can you tell them about how you've been waking up earlier? I am doing something I never in my life thought I would ever do. I've been waking up at 4.40 a.m., which sounds miserable.

And I've been working out at 5 a.m. from 5 to 6. And it's been giving me this just piece. I don't know how to say that of I have two solid hours in the morning, or an hour and a half sometimes when the kids wake up early or an hour even. But I have an hour to two hours to myself where I can work out. I can shower. I can have coffee. I can make the kids breakfast.

I can have this time to, like, decompress myself and gather my thoughts and gather my attitude and energy for the day. And by the time the kids wake up, I feel so accomplished that I told Andrew, I've been feeling like a better mom because of it. I feel like I have a larger capacity for our kids to feel less unhinged and more, like, just, like, productive. It's been really beneficial. Am I tired?

Yeah. But I feel less chaotic because of it. Yeah. I bring that up. And date night too, I think, is the other thing that made us feel grounded. I was talking to my younger brother about this who just had a baby. And I was like, I think date night saved our marriage. There's something about like the early morning or the dedicated night together.

where it's more expected like you're quote unquote more in control of what's going to happen when the kids aren't up and so you you just rip through all those things but like you taking a shower for you yeah makes a big difference yeah how you feel that day or how like put together composed you feel I was thinking about priming mechanisms the other day and people talk about like priming your muscles for a workout or you know you Even like, it's just an idea of preparation. And when you're doing that in a less high stakes environment, like making lunch in a quiet kitchen is way different than I was laughing this morning at just how many requests were slung my way. Our three-year-old wanted to ride motorcycles, then he wanted to take my drink, then you want to make coffee, and then he wanted to go on a run.

And it was like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And his little three-year-old brain, it's like so many exciting things. In my mind, I'm like, oh, my gosh, what do you want? And it's like there's an emotional response to me. But two totally different things. Quiet kitchen versus a little three-year-old demanding things. That to me is somewhat grounding where you're like, okay. Especially in light of the contrast where you've experienced both making a lunch,

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can be really chaotic because four o'clock comes around you're like frick I haven't gone to the grocery store I don't have groceries I don't know what to make for dinner what are they going to eat if they don't eat they're going to like you just spiral you know we've talked about this before. And recently I've been using this, we have like a, it's called a skylight. It basically just shows the calendar. I've been every Sunday going through Pinterest,

yes, literally Pinterest, and picking out recipes and saving those recipes and like meal planning every night of the week. And I look at what I, what's for dinner the night before and I like prep it and stuff and I get ready. But it's actually been grounding in the sense of like

dinner comes around and it's already made and it's already planned and we have all the ingredients and it just like takes out some of that unhinged feeling you have like in little different areas of your life where can you kind of bring more peace in order by doing a little bit extra yeah i'm trying to think like why does that make me feel grounded like early morning i don't think it's for everybody but i would say from a high level when you can control the control Bulls is what we used to say in football of like you I get a lot of satisfaction by taking care of the people in my life kids and you included so like I want to do that it doesn't feel

as fun when there's chaos involved so like I would say the groundedness comes from knowing I am contributing and being a good teammate and feeling good about that and it's an absence of the chaos in the midst of that. So like the early morning helps me contribute in a way that is not chaotic. I don't know how you do that in your life

but it's worked for us. Those are my first takes. But it is a wild phase, Megan. So fun. Relish every second though. That's what I'm trying to do. This was fun. Thank you for listening.

Thank you for your input. Love hearing your perspective always, babe. Love hearing of your, too. And if you made it this far, please subscribe to this show and give it a rating. We're going to do our best if you do subscribe to make this show and every episode in it better and better every time. So that's our promise to you. And that's all we got. I'm Andrew.

I'm Sean. Next time.