Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 266 | Assumptions About Our Family

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

Today we sat down for part TWO of your latest assumptions about us as a family of five. Not gonna lie, some of the assumptions from part one were spot on, seems like you’ve figured us out ;) Let us know if any of these caught you by surprise in the comments below! Love you guys! Shawn and Andrew  Go to https://kachava.com and use code EASTFAM for 15% off your next order Beam Kids is now available online at https://www.shopbeam.com/COUPLETHINGS Take advantage of our exclusive discount of up to 40% off using code COUPLETHINGS Shop the cutest Swimwear and use code MEETMINNOW15 for 15% off your order! ▶  https://shopminnow.com  Subscribe to our newsletter  ▶ https://www.familymade.com/newsletter Follow our podcast Instagram  ▶ https://www.instagram.com/shawnandandrewpods/ Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawnjohnson (00:00) don’t look ahead, shawn (00:32) comment of the day (01:06) shawn finding her pink again (03:43) let’s get started with these assumptions… (04:50) is bear the last…? (06:45) are we quick to forgive? (07:40) jett the daredevil (08:12) andrew never wakes up in the night (08:48) east fam = go with the flow? (11:02) east fam = great sleepers (12:01) our kids are uniquely different (13:20) traveling a lot and navigating our limits (16:13) arguing when we are tired 😬 (17:28) loving supplements (18:24) finding a system with the in-laws (19:08) andrew flying the family (20:33) eating fast food and finding moderation (21:13) how we try to keep up with trends: creating vs. consuming (21:42) navigating priorities (22:27) using a night nurse (25:53) different love languages and navigating it (26:51) sometimes we don’t want to go on date night (27:43) balancing our kids’ interests Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. With Sean and Andrew. You ready for another latest assumptions about us? You guys love these, which is funny. I'm pumped. I actually like going through these. It's interesting.

I feel like it brings things up that you and I have not talked about. And it's also just fascinating to hear what you all think about us. I just glimpsed at the first one. Too soon. Too soon. You're supposed to read through them, babe. I'm sorry. What the heck?

We've got to do our personal updates and some banter first. Okay. Let's banter. Let's start with a feature comment. Okay. Amy B, she said, thank you guys for your vulnerability. I'm sure it can be hard to have all these tough conversations in front of the public eye, but I respect it.

You don't shy away from topics even when you disagree, and that's been cool to listen to. It's been cool to listen to us, kind of argue sometimes. Thanks, Amy. Yeah, appreciate your comment. We have fun. Full transparency. We're kind of getting over an argument right now, and this has kind of broken the ice. Yeah, it's good.

We'll address it. We're going to circle about it. No, no, it's good. It's good. Let's see. You got any favorite recipes you've been trying out recently? Sean has been slaying the cooking game. Actually, we've been slaying. We've been slaying. One of my New Year's goals when we did our goals this year was I feel like I've gotten back into a rhythm. As social media would say, I have found my pink again. Do you know where that comes from, by the way? No clue. I've never heard that ever.

You don't know this? Found my pink? Yeah. I don't know if I like it. You're going to like it after I tell you why. But did you know? Flamingos. Have you ever seen a flock of flamingos and noticed a flamingo that was not as pink as the others?

Yes. You know why that is? No. Flamingos lose their color when they give birth. Hmm. And it's over the course of time. they earn their pink back. They say it's because they get so depleted giving birth

that they lose their color. They give it all to their children. Wow. So social media has taken on this trend of like women, they're trying to find their pink again. They're trying to find their color again after giving birth. It's all this, it's moms. So the idea of you'll see people in comments,

they'll be like, they've said to me, they're like, you are finding your pink again. And it's just, it's the cheesy way of people saying, like, I'm getting back into the groove of it. I'm finding me again after having kids. Do you feel like it's regaining your old self, or is it finding a new self? No, I think it's completely new. But it's not living in such an immediate space of, like, not being able to take care of myself. After having kids and being postpartum, like truly postpartum, there's no space to take care of yourself.

It's very, very hard. So I do feel like with the New Year's goals, I put on there that I wanted to start cooking again. I missed being in the kitchen. I miss trying new recipes and experimenting and having fun. I've been doing it a lot lately, and I love it. Yeah, you're really thriving, actually. Now that I think about you and Drew doing puzzles, like puzzles was something that you and I used to love to You used to love to do them.

Now I'm doing it with Drew. Yeah. We did a hundred piece puzzle the other day. She did it pretty much all by herself. That's amazing. It's fun. Welcome back, baby. Thank you.

Or actually, welcome to the show. New and improved, Sean. Okay. Thanks, babe. Yeah. All right, so we've done several of these assumptions about us. This is part two. So we're going to go through 27 assumptions that we asked you for on social media from a Sean

and Andrew Pod's Instagram page. we'll just rip through them and do some live reactions, shall we? Let's do it. First one. Andrew gets annoyed with how rigid Sean is with their scheduling. Dang. This is literally what we argued about last night. Dang.

That we're breaking the ice. No, no, no, no. But I actually disagree with this. Just to clarify, I do not get annoyed with how rigid you are. It is, I'm going to leave it there. I'm going to leave it there. There. Okay. Okay. I'm so thankful that you're the one that's scheduling. Thank you.

You're welcome. You're welcome. So no, I don't get, I don't get annoyed. Anything I get disappointed to myself for not being as good at scheduling as you are. Okay. Moving on. Since you've said bear is your last baby, you've both cried over a quote, last with him. well if you listen to part one is he the last

I still think he is I still think he is I still think we are done at three I actually it's weird I don't think I've cried over a bunch of last yeah I cried over all the first withdrew yeah I don't think I've cried over the last

like I wasn't super sentimental like finishing nursing and knowing that was the last time I was going to do that. I think it's just more so an understanding that this chapter is finishing

but it also just keeps getting better getting to phases of like puzzles with Drew and being able to travel with the kids so much more

and just like you're trading in something so beautiful for something else that's so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. I think

I really have enjoyed every phase of childhood more and more. So, like, as Drew's getting older, I've enjoyed every phase more and more, which has not made me want to cry for the last. Same.

But I have, with each child that we've had, been more pushed to, like, be present in that phase because it does end, and they're all great. I can cry over the idea of, with our first, with Drew, with our first, it can seem like such a rush to get through the hard phases like the sleepless nights and stuff

so I can cry thinking about oh I wish I would have enjoyed that more with her but you can't really know that until you've gone through it. Yeah. Yeah. All right you're always quick to forgive each other. No, I think we've gotten better

at forgiving each other though. Yeah. We are pretty quick to forgive. Yeah, we don't hold on to resentment. But as far as getting reacquainted with each other, we're learning how to do that better. It used to take, I don't know, like 36 to 48 hours of... Getting fully back into the groove. Yeah, and then one of us cries, and then it's like,

then we cuddle, and then it's like, all right, we're back. And now we're like, we don't have to go through that whole sequence anymore. Why do you think that is? You ain't got time. That's true. Yeah. No, but we definitely don't rush through that. No.

I think we've just grown to understand each other and have more patience, and I think we're grieving each other less. Yeah. These days. Yeah, I agree. Next. Jet is an absolute daredevil child.

Yes. True. He's also the sweetest boy you'll ever meet in your entire life, too. And he listens really well. So I think we have a good little sister them going on where we let them do quite a lot. Yeah. But we've built

enough trust mutually that when we asked him not to do something, we know that he's going to listen. Yeah. So we keep it safe because of that. And so far we have not had many problems. I agree. Next, Andrew never wakes up with the kids in the night when they're crying and it drives

Sean crazy. False. You do wake up with the kids when they're crying. It does drive me crazy how you can sleep through it though I'm a deep sleeper yeah Sean it's crazy there's one time I was still up and you were asleep and the kids cried and I was like walking to the door and Sean went from being asleep to being out the door and up the stairs in record incredible time it was like within 15 seconds she was upstairs it's a mom for you it's amazing uh the next one you are a very go with the flow type of family see

The first assumption of scheduling. If go with the flow means I have scenario A, B, C, D, F, G, H, H, I, J, K, L-N-O-P, all logistically figured out in my brain, then yes. You do a good job. I think, again, we're a good team. I'm definitely a pretty good go with the flow for the most part. I am prepared for all scenarios, though. That's unfortunately, actually, let me think about this, because maybe this will be good for us.

I think I have enough nonsense in my life that I'll like randomly do on a day-to-day basis that forces Sean to be go-at-the-flow. Mm-hmm. Which is not always a good thing. If I could work on that. But I have figured out strategies

and ways to be prepared to make it feel like the go-with-the-flow is actually logistically figured out. Huh. I think I just had a revelation. Interesting. I'm going to keep thinking about that, though. It's kind of like the other day we're driving.

Someone forgot to, like, pack snacks or something. It's on both of us. And Drew was like, I'm so hungry. I was like, you know what? I've got an emergency bag of bars here. That was clutch. That was clutch, yeah. So within the go-as-a-flow, I'm hyper-controlled.

Part of this, I think, is we've had plenty of experiences that have led us to understanding, like, there's options. Yeah. So my, if Drew is still hungry in the car, I'd have been like, all right, let's stop at a gas station. I'll run in and it'll take 30 seconds, no problem. Yeah. So it's not a big deal.

I don't know. We try to be chill, I think. Just, uh, uh, we try to be more than go with the flow. We try to be a very like, we'll figure it out no matter what. That's a good way to put it.

That's exactly what I wanted to convey. Yeah. It's never a panic situation. No. Next, your kids are all good sleepers and always have been so you don't know what it's like to have a bad sleeper. Yes. True.

You think we've got good sleepers? I think we have phenomenal sleepers. It's so interesting. But you also were super disciplined with the sleep training. Yeah. So maybe we're lucky. Maybe it's the system. Yeah, I don't know.

But we have had, our children have slept well. On top of that, it has helped that, like, we had three babies that were born really healthy weights. They regained their weight really quickly. They were great eaters. So all of that kind of plays into it. Yeah. I think all three kids slept four-hour stretches at the hospital when they were born. Like, they would literally sleep in the,

the nurses would have to come in and be like, we have to wake them up. It's time for them to, like, yes, we've been very lucky. Okay, good. You got the next one. Your kids are all completely different personalities and it's been hard to figure out what works for each, yes. I think that's been the beauty of it, though.

And I think that's been one of the coolest learning experiences as a parent is truly kids can be born having such wildly different personalities. and it's been really fun for us to try to figure out what makes each of them tick and what makes each of them want to learn and what their interests and hobbies and, like, works are. And we're trying to learn as parents how to foster all of those individually. It takes a lot of agility as a parent, a lot of effort, a lot of, like, restraint, awareness,

just to jump from one kid who's bent a certain way. another kid who's programmed totally different. And then each phase, like as a kid grows up, sometimes Drew is super extroverted and social. Sometimes she's more introverted. So you have to just like always be on your toes. I thought at some point we'd like, yeah, we got the parenting thing figured out. But every kid, every different phase, every new situation, it's like, all right, no.

You got to stay with it. All right. next you travel so much you're constantly exhausted and can't catch up i don't feel this way do you no i don't feel this way we do travel a lot and we love it we are very open and transparent as an entire family and we are very observant to know when like our kids are hitting a limit to where they're too tired and it's like okay we're going to cancel the next trip or whatever it is and we're very open with each other to say i'm actually burnt right now and we need to just chill, whether it's with socially hanging out with other friends or traveling

to another work trip or whatever it is. We try to balance the scales and constantly make sure we're doing well. I am grateful that we have enough flexibility in most areas of life that we can turn the dial up or down depending, like, to catch up in whatever form. That is a huge luxury. Yeah. Okay, so sometimes I see headlines about A-list movie stars and they're crazy three. 3 a.m. workout rituals, and I think to myself, should I be doing that? Could I even be doing that

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no I think we go to the bed the angriest to be honest I think we have just because we're tired as in last night we probably have the most amount of arguments at night so we usually only argue when we're tired yeah what are you trying to say is it nothing I do think though whatever I interpret that saying is never go to bed angry as resolve the issue. as quickly as possible. So our style is, I think, kind of operating under the assumption that if we sleep, this issue will go away, which is the quickest way to resolve it. Some people might go to bed and the issue might still be there. I would say just try different things. So if you need to stay up late to resolve the issue because it's like still an issue, then go for it.

If that's just going to make it worse, the issue worse, then go to bed. I don't know. Yeah. We don't always hash things out before bedtime, though. Yeah. Next, you take a million supplements a day since your kids are always bringing home germs. Love supplements. Love supplements.

Love. It's not because our kids are always bringing home germs, though. It's more so we're constantly trying to optimize our health. It's like a game. Yeah. It's like our only hobby, pretty much, is how can we feel the best? I guess it's like selfish, but like how can we have the most energy for all the things we want to do, parent, marriage, date night, work, fitness, competitions, whatever.

So it's like we love tinkering with different things. And we love talking about it and sharing it. Yeah. And I will say too, when we see positive results with them, that's exciting. It constantly gives us more energy. and more ability to play with the kids and, like, travel and, yeah. So it's fun. It's fun experiment.

Sean's parents are over at your house every day, seven days a week. Five days a week, yes. Yep. Insistently five days. Usually not the other two. I think we all need breaks for each other. It's good. We got a good system.

Yeah. There's a lot of communication and learning that I think we all went through. We did. And we've settled into a nice little routine. I'm sure it'll change at some point, but it's good. It'll probably definitely change when we all live on the same property. I'm grateful. We'll probably like once or twice a year have a big sit-down meeting.

Yeah. It's usually sparked by some issue. Yeah. And then we'll just have a big heart to heart and then move on. It's great. I'm grateful for the relationship I have with your parents. Thank you, babe. Next, it makes Sean nervous when Andrew flies the family in an airplane.

No. Not at all. right period yeah i think you're a phenomenal pilot i think you're very cautious i think you know safety boundaries and limits that you and i you know feel strongly about and yeah if i ever have any nerves it has nothing to do with you and it has to do with like statistical data of malfunctioning planes but that has nothing to do with you We have, so I've had my pilot's license for two years trying to get Sean to have hers. Which I want to get.

Yeah. It's been fun, like, just, I learned how to love learning in that process of getting my pilot's license. But we have a bunch of, like, safety checks that we go through when we fly as a family, specifically. The airplane that we have has a parachute on it, and that's the one we use. It's great. So we use that. Anytime we fly the family and we feel safer because of it. It's serviced very frequently.

It's a part of a flight school, so there's so many eyes on it. Yeah, there's many, many different things that make it so none of us are nervous. Yeah. Next. You haven't eaten fast food in years. False. I said this in part one. Our go-toes for fast food would be Chick-fil-A.

Love a Chick-fil-A. Oh, my gosh. We order Chick-fil-A a lot. We go to Chick-fil-A a lot. Jimmy John's, Jersey Mike's, Chipotle and Chick-fil-A. I'm a crushing Kaiva.

Love it. And we did a good old McDonald's drive-thru last week, you know? Everything in moderation, guys. Andrew loves a Wendy's. I think we do view family time meals as very special.

So we try to do that as much as possible. Yeah. To your point there. All right, next. You spend hours watching TikTok videos to keep up with the latest trends. not true not true

when we do try to keep up with like latest trends it's not scrolling for hours it's let's get on and see if there's something that we should try for fun we'll have the whole team we'll spend like five 10 minutes

everyone just scrolls and tries to find inspiration which is fun but we like to create social media videos more than consume social media videos yeah next you've gone through seasons

where you prioritized other things above your marriage. I would say that's true. Yeah. I think we learned. Yeah. Our first year marriage. I was just trying to prioritize finding a job since I kept getting cut from NFL teams.

And Sean was prioritizing to her. And thank goodness we learned lessons and came out rather unscathed. I don't think we've done that since. I'm trying to think. Yeah, Sean is very communicative when she feels like something's out of balance. And I'm thankful for that. Next, you have a night nanny that does bedtime and everything with the kids so you can sleep from when they're a newborn until they're a toddler. No.

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Is it called a night nanny? I don't know. They said nightly name. Night nurse. I used a night nurse. Postpartum. with, we used a night nurse with Drew, Jet, and Bear. We would do two or three nights a week where a nurse will come in

and she was tending to me post-sisection and helping me figure some stuff out. She would help with nursing and then she would help give us like a break in the middle of the night and she would watch over the baby while they were sleeping so we could get some sleep. we did that with all three kids two or three nights a week for the first three months and then that and then they would you know they would go away um it was an absolute blessing it is a huge luxury i know that it's something we saved up for for each kid um but it was also who helped teach me sleep training techniques um we were so blessed.

Our night nurses were the ones who caught kind of our issues with bear. So they would help me with, like, feeding in the middle of the night, and they would be like, something is, we've noticed, like, consistently off, and we need to kind of work on this. I was taught how to use a pump for the first

time by my night nurse. Yeah, the kind of breastfeeding consultants. Yeah. It was a bunch of stuff. But, yeah, we only used a night nurse for that, not a night nanny until they're a toddler. So they were kind of like a social companions too

because it's kind of an isolating little phase there. Yeah, I remember sitting up in the middle of the night with some of my nurses

and being just chit-chatting. That's good. All right, next, you have very different love languages and that can cause

conflicts. We do have different love languages. It can cause conflicts, but it's not a huge problem.

We've learned it. We've learned we're working on it. I think we've got way bigger problems than just different love languages you know yeah like what uh yeah i don't know i've never felt like this has never really been a thing for me there no because i think it goes back to you and i are each motivated to please one another like i want to make you feel loved

so I want to figure out what that is to you so that's not an issue an issue that it's a certain way you know yeah you got the next one okay sometimes you don't want to go on date nights

but you do anyways yeah and it usually ends up going great I think we can very easily get stuck in this rhythm of like we're tired or just it would just be nice to have a normal night at home but it real lines

us every time. Yeah. I'm so thankful that we have done that now for six years. Six years. It started with right when we had Drew. Yeah, there's definitely been times, though, where we sit there mostly in silence. Yeah.

Sometimes because we're in conflict, sometimes just because we don't have much to talk about, and that's fine. There's something about just being physically present with somebody. that I don't know does something all right next

it's becoming hard to balance your kids each wanting to be involved in different activities already yes we have a five three and one year old I don't feel I stress about this Sean is like a hey

I schedule it all so yeah and so she's like oh we have a big Saturday plan I'm like well we can let's miss it all you know what I'm saying back to the go to flow why don't we just skip it all

so I think I think actually we're scheduling I bring a certain balance to the rigidity coming from this past weekend we're like we have to go to both birthday parties

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Sometimes if I drink traditional milk, it hurts my stomach for hours after. But I've never had a problem with Pioneer's A2 milk because it's ultra-filtered and easier to digest. It's a great option for those who are following high protein, low-sugar, low-carb, paleo-lactose-free, or other diets, and basically just an easy way to hit your protein goals. And good news. Pioneer Pastures is available nationwide at Target or Target.com. We went to one birthday, Bernie.

Yes. You can see what I'm saying. No, no, please, say more. Say more. Say more. Okay, we'll visit that later. It's gotten interesting, though, with the scheduling because I get obsessive or stressed about the idea of, like,

looking at the schedule each week and wanting to make sure it's balanced equally between our children. Yeah, Shanda does a great job at that. So Drew is in a phase right now. where she likes art classes and science classes and she wants to go ice skating. Ice skating is not really in season right now and there's a big transition happening with that.

So trying to balance that when Jet is in the middle of like soccer season and T-ball season where there's like a lot more going on for him at the moment. I just want to, I have a hard time of wanting to make sure each kid feels equally poured into on a weekly basis. Can I be honest? I view a schedule. as hey here's a menu of all the things we could do this week

and let's a la carte pick what we are going to do so I'm not saying that's the right way but Sean is like it's on the calendar it needs to be there for a week I only feel that way in regards to kids things because like this past Saturday Jet was so excited for his soccer game and his t-ball game.

And when kids get that expectation in their mind, being like, oh, we're just, we're a little tired, we're not going to go to that. In my mind, I'm figuring out how to, how does that make sense to a three-year-old. Yeah, no, it's tough. Learning all the way. These are fun.

Thank you. Thank you for those assumptions. Maybe us talking through some of those things helped you out. So thank you for listening. And if you made it this far, please subscribe to the show. Give it a rating. And if you do that, then we will make this show better and better every episode. I think we're doing that.

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