Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 31 Travis + Lyn-Z Pastrana

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

Today in episode 31 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we’re chatting with extreme athlete legends, Travis and Lyn-Z Pastrana. We delve into relationships and family in terms of adventure, and how important it is to inspire a sense of adventure in your children from a young age – within reason, of course! We also talk about being engaged in the public eye and living a lot of life on the road. A whole lot of different topics to discuss, and we so appreciate their perspective on life. If you haven’t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format – we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail]. Last but not least, learn more about Travis, Lyn-Z, and all they do at the links below. ––– Check out Travis on Nitro Circus ▶ https://nitrocircus.com/rider/travis-pastrana/ Check out Lyn-Z on Nitro Circus ▶ https://nitrocircus.com/rider/lyn-z-pastrana/ Follow Travis Pastrana on Facebook ▶ https://www.facebook.com/TravisPastrana/ Follow Lyn-Z Pastrana on Facebook ▶ https://www.facebook.com/LYNZSKATE/ Follow @travispastrana on IG ▶ https://www.instagram.com/travispastrana/ Follow @lynzskate on IG ▶ https://www.instagram.com/lynzskate/ Follow @lynzskate on Twitter ▶ https://twitter.com/lynzskate Follow @TravisPastrana on Twitter ▶ https://twitter.com/TravisPastrana ––– We’re supported by the following companies we love! Make sure to check them out using our links below. Skillshare! Get 2 free months of Premium Membership ▶ https://skillshare.com/COUPLE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up? up everybody welcome back to couple things with Sean and Andrew a podcast all about couples and the things they go through before we get started if you haven't yet please give the show a subscription and rating on whatever platform you're listening to it really helps us out and today we have a fun episode we do it was almost like difficult to interview them because I didn't even know how to ask questions that pertained to their sport and their life yeah so we interviewed some extreme Athlete Legends. Travis and Lindsay Pastrana.

Yes. Let me just read this. Okay. Travis is an American professional motor sports competitor, stunt performer, has won multiple world championships, X games, gold medals, and several events, including Supercross, motocross, freestyle motocross, and rally racing. I, that sounds like Chinese to me. And then Lindsay.

And then Lindsay, American professional skateboarder, multi, X-Games gold medalist and world champion. Again, she's another stunt performer. Again, it just sounds like a different language. Like, I watch it, but they're always like, this is the Japanese triple 70 side McTwister. I'm like, what is that? That's honestly how gymnastics is, to be honest with you.

A double your chanko or whatever. That's the same thing. So Travis and Lindsay are debatable too, the most well-known extreme sport athletes. Travis has been a part of Nitro Circus for years and they do a tour every single year. Where they'd actually been on tour together. Yeah. He has his hands in a lot of different extreme sports.

And personally, I am a big fan. I've watched him for years. And this was fun to have a conversation with him about his relationships. This was fun because I really admire how Travis and Lindsay approach life with a sense of adventure. And I don't want to call it recklessness. But they just hold on loosely, I think. And we talk about... But in such a beautiful way. A hundred percent. Yeah. I admire it and respect it. And they do that with their children as well.

And so we talk about a lot of different issues, including how they raise their kids and they're okay with this sense of adventure, which I feel like you and I are finding out now where like how hard that actually is to like, hey, you bumped your head. Okay. It's going to be okay. I mean, we went to Park City with them for the grand opening of this incredible extreme sports camp back when Dresby. Drew was six weeks old. And we saw their like six year old little girl on the mega ramps and jumping off these like 40 foot trampoline beds. I mean, their sense of adventure and their lack of fear is such a beautiful thing that they're able to teach their children. And it was really cool to talk about it with them. We talked about that. We talked about life on the road. They travel a lot and the dynamic between them as that happens. And they, uh, they,

also had a public engagement just like you and I. So we covered a lot of different topics. I enjoyed their perspective. This is a throwback interview. We talked to them a couple months ago and we're resurfacing it now. So we hope you enjoy it. And if you want to find out more about Travis and Lindsay, you can find their information in the show notes down below. Let's just go ahead and roll into it with Travis and Lindsay Pastrana. All right, Lindsay, Travis, thank you for joining us today. Thanks for having us, guys. It is a pleasure to see you again. I guess it's been maybe four and a half months since we saw you out there in uh in woodward park city yeah a lot 's changed in your life since then how's it how we're we're figuring it out i feel like we

are like starting to feel like human beings again yeah yeah i mean in park city your girls were like jumping off of everything doing all crazy stuff yeah that hasn't changed not slowed down they're jumping off things or climbing things at all yeah you're how oh my gosh i have a million questions just because we have a daughter now how do you get them to be so fearless you just got to start them young expose them to everything i think people think that kids are so fragile but they're actually really strong and if you give them goodness you continue to be strong then they they are it was really interesting for us um i mean we were on tour after we had our first, Addy. I was, she was two or four months old. We started touring again. We went to

Europe. Lindsay was already back skating. No. The gigantaram. And everyone says, how can you take such a young, like, infant on tour? But their development was really cool to watch. And it felt like there's so many. There's like 25 uncles and aunts and all the girlfriends, wives and boyfriends and whatever. Everyone's so just excited. And they have some, so charismatic on tour so you're in a bus with yeah you have maybe eight other people but there's a whole wide variety and they're always like there's someone up at 5 a.m. that's stoked to be up and there's someone still up at at 4 a.m. you know doing the opposite of that so it's pretty cool having grown up with kids or having kids on tour because there's um it's an

interesting group it's an eclectic group but it's uh wait I have a question about that hold you're on tour were you sharing a bus with the eight other people yeah well wow and a two to four month old yeah bless their hearts how did that go i think in the beginning we did our own smaller thing and okay bigger we started sharing more but okay yeah because we moved back bristol was two to four months when we started back again so but tour life think about this the bus is always moving so You get done the show at 10 p.m. You're on the bus, you know, at 1 a.m. So before that, everyone's kind of out. So, you know, Lindsay obviously is back. She just did the first half of the shows at that point and would be back with the kids on the bus.

So when they get in the bus, it starts moving, which is you can't really. The kids eat so well, the best sleep we got with infants or newborn on the bus. It makes sense. Wow. Like when we would fly with Drew out, even out to Park City, she would just pass out of sleep the entire. time on the flight. But still a lot of flight, too, with the ears and just, it was like, you know, you know, when you can't get it, well, I don't know, if you can't get you to sleep, like you take a little

car ride around that day, that was every night on tour. I feel like that could be very dangerous when you're no longer on tour and you have to put them back in a crib. Yeah. So, Lindsay. We had to start moving. Yeah. We were, we were reading about how you said your parents gave you a skateboard at,

when you were a year and a half old, which is nuts. And the one thing that that my brother told me when we first had Drew was, hey, just like you said, Travis, they're a little more tougher and more durable than you think. And so, cause like you look at a baby. It's the most fragile thing ever you think. But we've been intentionally trying to like, you know, put Drew upside down and kind of get used to the fact of like,

okay, they're going to, you know, they're going to do crazy things themselves, like jump off, climb walls and jump off things and whatever. so like let's start kind of practicing getting comfortable with that as parents but a year and a half old and skateboard that seems that seems tough yeah i have a brother who's a year and half older so i kind of just wanted to do what he was doing and so we both got skateboards for easter because what else do you get on Easter i chocolate i never received a skateboard for but I mean it might be the new tradition I'll have to get drew a skateboard okay something I was dying

to ask you guys about I'm sure a million people have asked you this ESPN body issue you wrote a motorcycle naked through dirt through everything together and had people videoing that but not only that you looked about as happy as a human being can look yeah it was amazing it was a beautiful picture what was that shoot like it was interesting i addie was not very old it was in between the two of them so you know she was lost in a year and uh gave me a reason to get back in shape yeah it was kind of chilly still here too freezing no it was like my excuse your excuse Travis Yeah

That's so funny Okay Go ahead Where Travis was on the motorcycle Pulling me on my skateboard I think it's on the internet somewhere But they didn't Oh my gosh

Everyone did you Did you do the body issue or no I did it once Yeah it was I think I did the Sports Illustrated version like years prior I just thought it was so interesting That you know all the people

they're like okay close off and like everyone turns around i i don't know i'm just not as bashful as i probably should yeah yeah yeah i think it's up and then everyone but the photographer would turn around when we yeah interesting uh all right so we we love to hear you know how you two first met we'd love to hear that uh pretty much x games you know yeah has there and we had a really good mutual friend Ashley Phyllic and uh really came down to Zumi's 100K though because to be honest six years age difference when uh when we first met at X games that was like a big difference yeah I didn't really notice sorry I she was a phenomenal athlete she was young probably barely teens when we met she won her first X games at 14 14 you know in skateboarding there's not a bigger

separation. Skaters are cool. They are all about image, and I'm a dorky dirt bike rider that just like to jump things and kind of didn't really care about what I look like or what I wore or anything. So there couldn't be a bigger separation there, but we got to do this thing called Zumi's 100K, and it was middle of nowhere, freezing cold. I don't know anything about... Colorado. Yeah, snowboards or that kind of stuff. And she was there signing autographs too, and we were stuck for like three days just hanging out. And I'm like, this girl is awesome. Wow.

And then she was the only girl that at the time could jump the mega ramp. And we just started, which is the big X-Games ramp for skateboard. So there was no girls on BMX, no girls on skateboarders except for Lindsay. So, of course, I was like, hey, professionally, you know. We're doing this tour and you should go to the test ramp, which was only half an hour from my house anyway. And so that's how you got my number. Oh, smooth. Then we started dating.

We went on tour. It's great. Yeah. Okay. And then I heard the proposal is quite the story. Yeah. Just Google it. No.

It was our first U.S. show ever for Nitro. And it was in Las Vegas. Packed house. Everyone who was important to us was there. Even though he didn't know, like, he didn't know his dad was there. Half the people didn't know. And he stopped. the show and asked me.

And then we're both so clueless. He goes, well, I said, you should put the ring on my finger. He's like, all right, what finger? And I gave him the wrong hand. Oh, gosh. I had to get our bigger friend, Tommy. I'm like, all right, I'm going to slide. I only told like three people.

So I slid down, like literally got the ring that morning. I'm lucky she's not. I'm lucky she's not like a real like, you know, it had to be like certain size. I would actually look at Cracker Jack box. I thought that would be a really fun way to do it, although I'm sure she wouldn't have thought, she would probably thought it was a joke at that point,

but couldn't get a ring there. So it went down to just a ring shop, like right outside the MGM, got a ring, came back, told the guy of the MC, because they were having to do this song, that kind of stuff. And I told Tommy,

I was like, you got to grab her and make sure she comes here. And Tommy's trying to grab her in the middle of the show. And I'm like, I got to get back to the top. I have to drop in again. Like, what are you doing to do you? Literally. I literally almost did one of your football friends to, like, grab her.

She was being so elusive. I was like, she's going to run back up and not even know this is happening. Oh, gosh. How far in advance did you have it playing, Travis? That what? Just that morning. I was like, man, there's never going to be a time that we have all of our friends and all of our family and everything. So Malcolm McCassey was a good friend of him.

I was like, hey, we'll get a ring. Can you help me? I don't know anything about this. Yeah. And he made up something, oh, well, we have to do a photo shoot for Ethica. I'm like, well, I've been on Ethaca since he started it too. She was actually upset. I was like super annoying.

Well, what, you know, you don't want me in the shoe? Oh, my gosh. I mean, it actually sounds like ours a lot. He planned it like the same day. I was mad at him the whole day because he was acting weird. I was just like, oh, wait, how did this go? Like, what? All right, so, so I got the ring on a Wednesday, okay?

And I wasn't planning. It was like sometime in July, middle July. And I wasn't planning on proposing until after the first season of I was going to be playing in the NFL. By the way, I heard that you have an uncle that played for the Broncos. Wow, that's fun fact, trivia there. Anyway, so I was with the Chiefs and I was planning on proposing after the season. So in December, I was sitting down with like my mentor the day I got a ring and I was like just telling him how pumped I was, it looked good, et cetera. He was like, he was like, well, what are you waiting so long for?

And I was like, I don't know. He was like, just proposed to her the next memorable event or a place you guys go. And so Sean was throwing out the first pitch at a Cubs game the next day. And so I was like, well, let me see if I could make this work. So I called up a guy who was like organizing the whole event. I was like, hey, do you think maybe like just a long shot that I could propose maybe to my wife tomorrow? He's like, let me get back to you. Didn't call me until like an hour before we went out on the field.

and then he tells me you're on bro and so I'm like oh my gosh we're actually doing this thing and I'm like so nervous it was nice I want to know how the first throw went as well yeah right after and I was I was so mad at him he told me he was going to help me like warm up because I can't throw a baseball for the life of me and it came to be like the time to warm up and he's nowhere in sight and I got so pissed at him and I was just like you're in the doghouse for the next week. I was like, go back to training camp. I'm mad at you.

And I threw the first pitch, made it. Made it all the way to the guy. That's a low bar to set, Sean. You made it to the plate. Hey, that's all that matters to me. And he came, like, walking out on the field. And I was like, what are you doing? You're not supposed to be out here.

Like, get off the field. I was really mean to him. Did you get down on the money? Did you give me, like, negative feedback about doing a public engagement, Travis? Yeah. I, there's always, I mean, you know, like, you can't do anything without a bunch of people criticizing. And I just, I just don't care because she seemed happy. So, that's a great perspective.

She was bummed out that morning. She's like, I cannot. Yeah. Yeah. That is funny. What is it like having both of you be, like, current competitors? Are you guys competitive with everything? Are you guys, does that dynamic ever, I guess, like, butt heads?

having both of you on the road, both of you touring, performing, like all of it. All of it. You want to go for that? It doesn't. It's not too bad. It's been nice. You know, they took women's vert out of X games in 2010. And so then we went to basically, for me, I was just touring.

We got to do that as a family even after we had kids. So it was good. You know, this past year I did a little more announcing for X games. I went to more championships for Virt and. Spain and so I did more away from the kids she won the world championships but casual I went there by myself it was like wow it's a vacation it's great but um before that basically we either all traveled together or I stayed with kids so Lindsay is definitely by far a more a better rounded athlete she knows how to play soccer and all that stuff so I

and throw, like, I had to throw one opening pitch. And luckily, the mascot for the Braves was there, because I pegged the mascot right in the head and got booed out of there. I looked, I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm a nose fan. But, yeah, no, I mean, everyone pretty much broke throw. But, so Lindsay, she's the soccer coach. She's on every team that the kids are on. She's a part of it.

She's coaching. She's volunteers at the school to help. And she likes to be as busy as possible. at all times and be involved with everything the kids have. And I tell you, there hasn't been any, like, for me, I'm so glad that one of us grew up because I still, I haven't changed a lot. Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, always. I love hanging out with the kids, and especially, like, after year one, when they start

walking and stuff, like, we have so much fun together now. But Lindsay, like, really took the motherhood, like, that whole step and just blew it out of the park. It's pretty cool to be in a position where I can still travel, do what I love to do, and she makes it work. Even since the time they were so small, like it hasn't affected them traveling or doing anything. Like, a lot of parents are like, oh, we can't go here. We can't do this. Or, oh, what happens? Like, Lindsay, even though when I met her, she was a pretty strong drinker, I would say.

What? Pretty much, like, just, like, just, she's mom. She's a badass, but she's a mom. It's great. Did that take you guys a while to figure out that dynamic? Because Sean and I were fortunate in the sense that Sean had retired by the time that we were dating, got engaged. And then I started my professional athletics career. You guys were kind of doing it concurrently for a while.

And it's just there's like so many factors that go into it. And we were speaking with Andy Roddick, the tennis player. And like as an athlete, you do have to be selfish because it's all. about like what do I have to do next to train like how can I prepare for the next event I got to practice this that etc and I just imagine that would be very tough I don't know if that took like a like a a little bit of time to get used to yeah in the beginning he would train in Maryland and I would train in California and then that was only about one summer of events and then, you know, we built a skate park here in Maryland.

We'd go to Woodward and we just, I don't know. And most of my stuff, after the first year of us dating and before we got married, ended up being more just Nitro. And so then we were doing that together. And then as far as rally, that's the one thing. I've never been to a real stage rally because... She went once. I crashed out and almost died.

It's so important to get peace. And they basically come in, they sleep from like, I don't know, 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. And I'm like that. And we're usually doing notes and making adjustments on stuff. So really, in Rally, over a weekend, over four or five days, you're either on the stage is making the notes that you're going to do, or you're going over video, or you're sleeping. And if you're not doing one of those things, you're not going to win the race.

So that's the one thing where I'm like, yeah, yeah, this doesn't work. The best way I can support them in that is to stay on with kids. And I really like to sleep, so. With your kids, bringing them into such an extreme sport, I mean, we've already had people voice every opinion you can possibly imagine. Yeah, flipping it upside down. I had a heart attack. But how do you balance?

Because I want to teach Drew how to flip by the time she's a year. I mean, how do you balance wanting them to be these extreme assets? athletes, an extreme, like, I don't know, just not afraid of anything and balance that with all the naysayers of the world and just the mom and dad hearts that you have as well. You just have to be really cautious what you share with the world. Yeah. And anything, not that we do anything dangerous. But a lot of the cool.

Not share. As parents. Yeah, growing up on tour, like, is just, like, it's just like, And the kids are so different, though. They choose a lot. Everyone says, what do you want your kids to be? And I always thought, whatever they want to be. Because our oldest, if she was crying, you threw her in the air.

If she was in the air, she was happy. Our youngest, she never cried ever. But if she gets thrown in the air, she starts screaming. So, I mean. They're so different. Have you guys, Sean and I've been tried to be like really cautious and intentional about like, okay, you know, Let's not put trophy, let's not put Sean's gold medals and awards on a wall because we don't want Drew to like look at that and feel the, the expectations that kind of come with having, like, having a successful mom.

And you two are two icons in your sport. How have you safeguarded against that for your kids? Thus far, they haven't noticed one trophy or medal on any wall. There's like his motorcycles in the living room that's like, oh, it's so fast, you get all these things on it. And then they're like, you know, that motorcycle's in the way of the TV. So that's far, they, they don't have a clue. The best thing is that they, they always talk about skateboarding like it's a girl sport. And then Bristol's like, yeah, but boys sometimes can skateboard get.

That's amazing. That's, my mommy has that one skateboard friend, Beaver, he's a boy. boy. That's awesome. That is funny. Okay, I am curious with, so engaged, married. How long have you guys been married? Seven years? Is it eight? Oh, geez, Travis.

No. We got married in 2011, it's 2020, so it will be nine years. Okay, so... Nine years. I think it's nine. Nine. Yeah. Yeah.

We just had our anniversary yesterday. I'm like, is it three, five? We've been together nine. I don't know. Over the course of nine years, what has been, I don't know. What started out is like the hard thing and now it's gotten easy. Does that make sense? I know it's a very big question.

Um, honestly, this is the first, this corn, this quarantine has been the first time that we've actually had a chance we've always been running if you will we've always been we've always wanted to spend kind of more time together and you make it work and it was just um i don't know i think that what do you think i remember in the beginning uh this is like a random small thing but he would always i always set my towel by you know the shower hanging whatever it's dry and it's ready for me but he'd always get out of the shower first he'd take the towel and i get out and be like what the hell now i'm stuck with this dirty towel off of floor but until i opened my mouth and communicated that i really like a dry towel and i put it there

for a reason then he started paying attention and then standing there with the open towel waiting for me so it's all about communication i think for me it was movie quotes and she's done such a good job of learning movie she must have thought i don't know how she even stayed with me because i live a lot of the movie quotes and someone mentioned like I was like oh bed bath and beyond I don't know if there be time and she was like there will be time and everyone laughed and she's like why is it we're laughing and how can't carry on it's I'm working on the towels like for me I don't know you're supposed to be clean when you get out of the shower if it's wet it still dries you off like that's what he does I'm like no wash your dirty towel I like I like I like I like

dry and clean towels yeah but still and then he always gives the kids my dry towel i'm like no but they know they go no dad that's not our towel oh my gosh um okay Travis you i believe have had 40 fractures uh um on seven bones and your right ankle is that right did i read that right 40 fractures on one ankle she had the same basic dislocation yeah but it was a Liz Frank which basically the bottom part of my foot where your toes are went under the mid part and then the tip fib went compound so my whole I landed with my foot facing down the motorcycle landed on top of it which just crushed it so basically it was just powdered for the most part yeah so I remember um I went through a a pretty deep skating phase never got good at it the first time I dropped in on a on a yeah when I was

did? Yes, when I was eight. I didn't know this. And I dropped in on a, on a quarter pipe. And I remember the skateboard slipped out from underneath me. It was my first time going in. And, uh, skateboard slipped out from underneath me. I landed on my chest. When got knocked out of me. And I was like, I think I'm done with this sport. So I went to football, which is way easier. But is there any, is there any, um, I imagine like it's such extreme sports that you guys do. They call it extreme for reason. Um, the danger involved. Is that at the forefront of your thoughts or to just come with the work? Like is there any fear of let me put it this way. When we had Drew, that was the first time I ever thought like, ah, I don't really want to die. You know what I'm saying? That's a green way to put it, but most people have that thought before kids. Did you guys experience that ever or no?

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that voice for him a lot. But we've had close friends to us pass away who have kids and seeing the wreckage that's left behind, I think is the biggest thing that has changed his way of thinking a little bit about what he does. Risk to reward will always change. Every, you know, every play, every depends on what situation you are with your life. And for me, we've definitely slowed down with any skydiving and base jumping. I'm just, I don't do it enough and I like to push myself. So that's, you don't, you know, you mess up on a dirt bike and, you know, you break your arm.

you mess up in a base jump and that that's it so um you know that changed a little bit but not um i always i haven't a pretty good understanding of where my abilities are and i guess the biggest problem is that i'm usually overconfident that it's always going to work so i'm confident and underprepared yeah overconfident underprepared my life motto now i'm trying to be at least overconfident and slightly scared wait okay that that's such an interesting thing with your guys of sports in general is it's you said you know your limits right and the thing about extreme sports is it's always about pushing the limit so i guess i guess it's like this fine line of like how can i practice to push the limit maybe while knowing that hey i'm only capable of doing a triple

i'm not going to see yeah should i not even try to say a trick okay i won't even do that but i guess there's a certain comfort that you build to grow to the the new limit that you're setting. I've crashed so much stuff across the board from go-carts, motorcycles, monster trucks, you name it. All the things. So all the things, literally. But what was interesting was like when Lindsay got on a dirt bike, so she wasn't back-flipping

a skateboard at the time. And she got on a dirt bike, it's like, oh, well, this is simple. You just twist the throttle and you go. Yeah. The girl on tour, Jolene that was doing the backflip was like the only girl in the world doing it, she breaks herself off completely, rotate her cover. everything broken ankle and Lindsay's like well I can do it so of course the Torp Motors like oh great you can do it yet jump on in there I'm like what like

you you don't understand the consequences it can possibly happen so I feel like knowing the consequences and then understanding the risks is something like when you're with your kids a lot of times you'll find them so afraid of something that has absolutely no consequence for no reason you know fear of heights or fear of whatever it might be but for me it's figuring out what the risk actually is, understanding your ability level. And for me, with our kids, that's what I really want to tell them. It's not you can do it or you can't do it.

It's to figure out for yourself. So that's when we went to Woodward, one of the interesting things, everyone was, we were jumping off the low level. And at the time, my oldest daughter, who was six, I believe, were five at the time, was jumping off of the top of something pretty high to her butt. But the airbag wasn't very thick. So I jumped off the third story to my back. And she was up top. She says, dad, will it hurt? I said, I don't know.

She said, that's not an answer, dad. So, well, you have to make the call. Like, I can't land on my butt, and you can't land on your back. So you make the decision from what it felt like on the lower line. And that's a little much to ask a five, you don't want to understand. But if they can understand where their abilities are and know what the actual risk is, that's going to help them in life. I don't know.

That was way too. Whoa. No, that's freaking deep, Travis. No, I was just what I said. I absolutely love that. Yeah, because I feel like in gymnastics, that's what they taught us. It was all of this trust that they would build with the coach, but the coach would teach you how to trust yourself.

And it was never like, oh, coach, can I do this? He's like, well, you did level one, two, and three. Why can't you do four? He's like, well, if you did one, levels one, two, and three, and you're trying to go to 20, it doesn't make sense. You can't, like, skip that progression. Whereas I feel like a lot of parents miss that and they have their kids depend on telling them what they are and are not capable of, which I don't think is right. So I think that's awesome.

I've learned a lot on Nitro Circus. Like you can just because someone's capable of doing something and someone wants to do something doesn't mean that they should do it. And vice versa, just because, you know, if the risk isn't that high, like you got to understand what risk to reward. Yeah. I guess there is a good amount of peer pressure probably of like, dude, just try it, bro. Just try the trick. Just do it. Less than you would think.

Really? Only when we believe that they could do. It's the opposite. Honestly, a nitrous circus is to say, how do you get these guys to go out and do new tricks and break themselves off every weekend? I'm like, it's actually my job is safety and trying to figure out how to not, like, dude, hey, the guy before you just did a world's first. That's all you for the show.

We don't need it. We don't want to see you get broken off and knocked out. Like, do your world first tomorrow. We have a show in another country tomorrow. Wow. Yeah, I like that. That's really interesting. Okay, so I'm probably going to get a talking to after this, Travis,

because you mentioned skydiving is one of the things you've, you've tumped back. And I'm, you go to skydiving? Well, I did. I went, you know how, like, have you heard of baby moon? Like, it's a thing to take a trip now when you're pregnant, whatever. go while she's pregnant before you right uh dude there's yeah there's a bunch of new trends

as far as pregnancy and a push present is another one I went on a dude moon okay by himself no me and my me and my best friend went out to Moab Utah and so in Moab a week before I was due in Moab you have two national parks

I think it's probably one of the most beautiful places in the country and we passed a skydiving place and I was like let's do it Like, this is the last crazy thing I'm going to do before I have a kid, which maybe is backwards logic. But Sean was pretty upset about it. And I was like, no, don't worry, babe, skydiving is super safe. But you saying that you're toning it back is, you probably do a different version.

I mean, skydiving and base jumping are a little bit of it. Yeah. What is the most extreme thing you guys have done together, though? Probably skydiving into. Oh, Tavarua. So we lied. about, there's clouds. We can't even see this little island that we're jumping in

so she can surf. So little. And she has like eight. 12. That was my 12th. 12th. We're like, yeah, tell him you got 500 at least and you have your top license.

So she, we just have her, hypothetically. I could have landed out in the ocean. No. So skilled skydivers landed in the waves and got like, and she just lands on the beach. And I was like, how was that? That's so cool. She's like, oh, the view was pretty good.

I actually went skydiving and I thought it was kind of boring. So yeah, see, yeah. I like the jump. I just like, after you pull the shoot, you're just kind of like dangling there. And it's just like, let's be sure to communicate. We did it tandem jumping. You guys are probably doing like that you jump out with no shoot and then someone brings it to you midair and you're doing the crazy stuff.

Ours is a little different experience, but. Wait, have you done that? Just once. Oh my gosh. No way. Oh, my gosh. I had a rock climb harness on. Under his bathing suit.

Meanwhile, he's in socks and trunks, that's it. No shirt because, you know, but hey, if Keanu Reeves could do it, I mean, Johnny Utah, I couldn't be that. Wait, can you like walk me through that? It couldn't be that hard. How did that feel? Where did you do this? The scary part was when I jumped, I thought this feels normal.

And that's what scared me the most. Oh, my gosh. And how long after you jumped did someone bring you a shoot? No, so the person, so one guy, and it was funny because I couldn't find, because at Red Ball, I was like, you guys got the best skydivers. They're like, yeah, you don't have the experience. We don't want to do this. And you can get really in trouble and get your skydive license. So we found one guy's a tunnel rat, so he had only had like 10 jumps, but he flies in those tunnels.

So he was the young dude. And he's like, well, if I lose my skydive license, it doesn't matter. I didn't even skydiver. It's like, perfect. And the other guy was military. I was like, they never leave a man behind. We're going to be good. So they jumped out and went down to Puerto Rico, which is still a territory of the United States.

States as it turns out and that didn't really work but yeah so it was pretty good we uh i jumped out did a couple back flips uh met up with the guys they hooked the harness on and he became a tandem oh my gosh if you guys i don't know is there a video of this oh yeah probably okay i want to look that up i i'm curious what would you say you guys is the theme for life would be you know yellow was a big thing back in the day but I'm just I'm just imagining your two's like highlight reel for life you know you just have done so many wild we are way behind a hundred percent but is is the idea to like let's let's just put it all out there and do everything we can no we're actually we're very different and I think that's what makes it work because like you guys your sports

are different you still know what it takes and I'm I mean I don't know you guys that well but You know, with Lindsay, it helps out a lot because going to, like, a big event. She knows, like, I can read it in her when she goes to a big event. You know when to step back and you know, hey, you're not going to get attention during that time. And I'm not going to, you know, stuff has to happen. But I can't skateboard. I can't do any board sports. Awesome.

Serping and snowboarding and skating. So even though we're all in action sports, we do things very, very differently. and our whole approach, you know, with skating is about style and cool and flair. And with Moto, it's just racing, just cross the line first. And Moto, I don't really care what it looks like. So just do the trick. So our whole mentalities are so opposite that we don't fight, but we're still both very competitive. So I think my life is based on competition.

I learned that provoking competition between us is not healthy. TTC is not good. And do you guys work for sport, not good? Do you not argue for sport? No. Well, I know. He does. I love it, dude.

It drives me insane. I love it. He'll argue an opinion just because he wants to argue. Devil's advocate. It's interesting to explore perspective. It drives me crazy. Do you guys, wait, do you guys work out well together? I'm curious.

Like, no. No. You know, yeah, we don't, we, I guess we do some cycle rides. But besides that, we don't like... I got a tandem bicycle. And honestly, now with the... She is so strong that, like, she's, like, leaving me behind. I'm trying not to seem like I'm winded, obviously.

She's always like, oh, I can't go anymore. You just... Just go ahead, guys. We're like, go ahead. But she always felt bad. But now we've got those e-bikes. Yeah. You have all you want, but, like, it puts to where you can turn the level up or down.

Mm-hmm. So you can put as much effort, not as little effort. It's assisted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are great. But it just helps that her not feel like she's holding me up.

And me, if she's kicking my butt, I can turn it up, not just not tell her. Tandums are great. Sean and I went on a tandem bike ride on our second or third date. Yeah. I let her drive and we almost died. We almost died. It was, we were on the street. and then she tried to curb jump

on a tandem and I got my half up. That's all I'm out of. I'm saying this to the wrong crowd. This to them is like some, though, but we almost skipped out. Yeah. Anyway, anyway.

Okay, so we asked these same three questions to all the couples. First question, you have to decide who goes first without knowing the question. You can go first. It's something crazy. I don't know.

One, two, three, shoot. Damn, you do rock every time, I shouldn't know. I was, I love, we do this with every couple. Yeah, we do that. And I love seeing how couples figure out that decision, but it's just like a small thing. We figure everything out during, doing rock, paper, scissors. Literally, yeah. Okay, what is your biggest pet peeve?

So is she answering it? I'm answering about him. Yes. Attention to detail. Oh. Like he doesn't have it. There's just little things where I'm like, oh, you're so special. You're so sweet and stuff.

I love that. What, it is interesting, like, I care so little about so much, but I care a lot about the things I care about. If that makes any sense, like I fall asleep in about 30 seconds, and that bothers her a lot. Same, and then I get mad about it. And then she wakes me up. Oh, dude, don't even get me started. Yes. Have you ever accidentally woken him up?

Oh, yeah, same. I'll ask her a question and be asleep before she answers. Okay, Travis, what's your biggest pet peeve? The detail is almost OCD. I mean, I was doing the dishes. I thought I was doing well. And all of our plates are different colors, which was my request.

so we knew who was leaving to the kids. I'm like, we each have a color. So our plate, our bowl, our cuts, are screwed. Oh, I like that. So I'm doing dishes. I'm like, I should be paddled on the back. And I put the plates away. And she's like, you're doing it to upset me.

I'm like, what? She's like, they're not back in. They're in a rainbow order. Oh, my gosh. And does sound like OCD. I'm thinking back to like the fourth grade. I'm like, Ray. Roy G.

Red, orange, yellow. okay yeah pet peeve is your lack of attention to detail in york is my too much attention to you do have another one that's pretty funny i mean it would make sense i i don't know probably time uh consolidation like i was i was growing up military my dad was a drill sergeant in the ring corps like you get out now you do that my mom if you were a minute late if you were on time you were late um and so it's it's hard for me like to where When we know every time, which is okay, but when we know what time we got to go, we know about how long it takes the kids to get ready, it's not a surprise.

And yet every time out the door, we're like, this mad at house, I'm like, why are, why is it such a problem? Why are we screaming? Why are we? He told me not about his mom that she was like a stickler for being on time until like five years into our marriage. I'm like, really, I could have been scoring brownie points and not like getting a hole for myself by being late. all the time. I love that. It goes back to your point of communication, though, Lynn.

Yeah, there we go. Well, I guess it just wasn't something he thought about. Yeah. Okay, part two of the question. So who went first? Lindsay went first. So Travis, now you go first. What do you love the most about Lindsay?

How cuddly she is. And that's, like, I've never liked, she was the first person. I called her my Ridland. That's actually the first thing ever got her, said Ridland, just because it was like my calming. When I'm so, we get the silly little whoop device or whatever. When I am away, I get an average of four hours less a night's sleep.

Like, I just, you're doing stuff, you wake up. Oh, what do I say? In, like, when we're together, I just want to just snuggle. And, yeah, it is maybe a little less productive, but I'm so much more healthy. And just, I love it. Oh, that's adorable. It is. Okay, Lindsay, what do you love the most about Travis?

Right this minute. She's like nothing. Right this minute, I love him as a dad. He's like the best dad. Short doses. Short doses, but he knows that about himself. So he makes the short doses time for the girls every day, especially now he's the PE teacher.

That's amazing. He had her come in and do a six-minute wall squat straight because she's six. You're six. You go sit on that wall for six minutes. That's amazing. I like that idea. Oh, yeah. I like his dad parenting skills.

Okay. I'm not sure I can do a 28-minute wall. Oh, yeah. I'm curious to you guys. What biggest pet peeve? Has anyone asked you that? No. No, no.

Wait, we're asking you the questions, Travis. Don't get me in trouble. My biggest pet peeve. what is my biggest favorite right now probably he leaves clothes everywhere like actually everywhere I have I have purchased more laundry baskets and place them in strategic places around the house

just trying to catch the dirty clothes and I mean they get so close they'll get to like the foot of it but they'll never go in well he's not a basketball player but the part about that is like Lindsay's always cleaning my stuff up but I'm like I left it right here I have a pair of pants that I was going to I was going to rewear that yes thank you no my phone where's my walk if it's on the ground it's dirty so my it's like they walk out of their clothes literally well you know the funny the funny thing is though then Travis she complains

that I never change clothes and I'm like well what Which one is it? I have clothes all over the house or I never change clothes. I'm glad you asked this question because I've been waiting to share this with Sean. I feel like, you know how you could do 99 things of like to help your spouse out and then they choose the one thing to be like, well, why didn't you do that? And I'm like, gosh, dang it's like, yeah, oh, I don't, I don't close the cabinet doors, but I did the dishes, I did the laundry, you know, I did it all.

Now you just got to close the doors. Like that's it. That's what you're going to complain about. You did it all. Okay. but I'm curious you guys always have so much going on is there anything is there any project right now you'd like to promote or talk about well racing has stopped around the world as well as every other sport pretty much but no I mean for for us nitro circus our job is actually

safety now and we have so many friends and now you know our kids or friends kids are all starting to get into action sports and just it's really cool to be able to kind of be on the four front of that where even the Olympics are starting to come to us and say, okay, what did you guys do for Josh Ian's triple backflip or how did you make that airbag or even for stuff? Wow. But Nitro Rallycross for me is something that is really getting kicked off, which is basically if you're ever a kid and you played with like your like RC car, you built big jumps and

huge burns and stuff, I'm just doing that in real life. So she's been having to put up with us building tracks and all kinds of four in our bedroom. I did recently see a show that you were racing in Travis and it was like it was a sick jumped and you went on a bridge and I was like that looks like it's so much fun so that's cool though you guys are like really being proactive and and building the sport like in the long run but I'm curious you guys been married seven eight or nine years one of the three what's the best piece of relationship advice that you've either been given or would give based off your

experience. Yeah, communication. Yeah, you can explain. You want to expand on it? Yeah, I mean, it's the towel thing. It's all about communication because, and we're still learning to communicate better, because there'll be times where we're sitting here and an hour goes by and we're both waiting for the other one to be ready to walk out the door.

Like, well, shit, we just wasted a whole hour. either of thought to communicate to say okay I'm ready is there anything I can do to help you get ready yeah I am curious you mentioned the quarantine this is really the first time you've been able to stop and like just spend time with each other for a while like a long duration has that been difficult or like really good because Sean when she was traveling a bunch we would always have conflict like the day before and the day after she got back the transition period yeah you're getting used to it again i i learned that i couldn't be very helpful when i now i can actually do things that i think help before she would just tolerate me doing stuff not the correct not the way

that she wanted it done and then everything that i would help with i felt like i always got yelled at more for helping um yeah i understand where i can help so that has been nice because I we've lived our lives on the road um yeah then since the kids sometimes I go travel and when I come back and vice versa but it's usually me that's gone for however much so when I'm gone she gets on a routine and then I come in and I try to help yeah this quarantine is yeah it doesn't work like we establish that okay breakfast that's I have the kids in the morning I get breakfast like when I work out or I sleep in or I choose that's great when especially you'll you'll learn having your daughter when one of you is gone and you're alone

with your child you figure out a routine and it works and then they come back and they mess it all up then you rework it and then you do a routine together and then one do it leaves me so it's just yeah hey lindsay Travis thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us I am really impressed not only with all your accolades but also with your self-awareness and how you've gone through life. I really admire your you're like hold on loosely approach to parenting and to marriage where it's like hey you can you know what you can only control what you can control. And so like just, you know, have that perspective as opposed to trying to micromanage everything. I learned a lot personally. So appreciate you guys taking the time and it's a pleasure

to talk. Don't take any advice from us. But yes. We're killing it. Thanks, guys. Thank you, guys. Thanks, guys. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you. You guys are awesome. Thank you.