Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 41 Jessica + Cody Nickson

Episode Date: October 28, 2020

Today in episode 41 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we chat with some new friends of ours, Jessica and Cody Nickson. Jessica and Cody just welcomed their second little baby girl and were only just pregnant with her when we had this conversation several months ago - so things have changed for this growing family quite a bit! We discuss their past lives on Big Brother & Amazing Race and go into detail talking about what it's like raising a family in the spotlight. This was a really fun & dynamic conversation that we're excited to bring you. If you haven’t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format – we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail]. Last but not least, learn more about Jessica, Cody, and all they do at the links below. ––– Follow @thejessicanickson on IG ▶ https://www.instagram.com/TheJessicaNickson/?hl=en Follow @codythemarine on IG ▶ https://www.instagram.com/CodyTheMarine/?hl=en Now What!? podcast ▶ https://www.podcastone.com/now-what-with-jessica-nickson Couples Coffee Co ▶ https://couplescoffee.com/ Subscribe on YouTube ▶  @Jessica and Cody Nickson  ––– We’re supported by the following companies we love! Make sure to check them out using our links below. Duracell! ▶ We are SO Proud to partner with Duracell on this initiative. Head to https://Duracell.com to learn more. Function Of! ▶ Go to https://FunctionofBeauty.com/eastfam for 20% off and to let them know you heard about it from our show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. With Sean and Andrew. A podcast all about couples. And the things they go through. Today we have a little bit of a throwback podcast. So much so that we have to. I mean, congratulations is in order because since we did this interview, this couple got pregnant with their second kid and had their second kid.

So congratulations. And we welcome baby Carter into the world. Yeah, just a few weeks ago, Jessica and Cody welcome their second kid. Carter, what's the middle name? York. York. Nixon. Nixon, a beautiful name.

Yes. And they already had one child together. Maverick. Little baby girl. That's right. And we had a blast talking to Jessica and Cody. Cody was a Marine. And then Jessica was on Big Brother.

And they ultimately met on Amazing Race and married each other. And now they have a family. We had a great conversation though. We talked a lot about having a family be in the social media world and be in the TV spotlight and how that. that dynamic changes, your relationship, your marriage, and then how you parent and the thought that goes into it and the conversations and the frustration, all of it. Yeah, this was really, if not anything else, an enjoyable conversation to have. I feel like we're friends now with them.

And we're pumped that they had their second child. So if you want to find out more about Jessica and Cody, you can find their information in the show list down below. Cody has a coffee company called Couples Coffee Co. Yes. And Jessica has a podcast that she often does with Cody called Now What Podcast. She has a bunch of guests on there that you would enjoy listening to. Including Claudia Oshrey.

Us. And us. Oh, sorry. I got to get it. Anyway, before we jump in, if you having it, please subscribe to the show, whether you're listening on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, wherever you're listening. Please hit the subscribe button. Oh, on YouTube as well. That's where we put our videos for the podcast and give it a rating too while you're doing that.

We appreciate that. Without further ado, though, let's just go ahead and jump into this one with Jessica Graff and Cody Nixon. All right, Cody, Jessica. Thank you for joining us today. Thanks for having us. I know we just got off of your podcast interview, how to blast. So for those of you listening go check out jess and cody's podcast called now what um i think it was pretty i thought we were i thought we you know presented ourselves yeah you guys were awesome great it's such a nerd i kind of just want to start out jess i was looking at your shirt i was like wow it's cool she has a bible verse on there kind of and then it says thou shall not try me you can read that it's pretty

that's pretty aggressive 24 said i didn't even see that what is what is the reference for the honestly it was just sent to me like I just got it in the mail and I was taking photos for Instagram right before this podcast interview so I'm like we'll typically not to pick our noses on this because it's being she had like a like a droplet coming out my nose the conjuring last rites on September 5th I'm down here! We did you! Array! The Conjuring Last Rites, only in the theater September 5th.

I love that. I'm ever seeing me in front of my five. All right, so, okay, so we share in common. We both recently had children, and I don't know who does this, between the two of you, but one of my favorite things as a dad to date is doing the, what do you call it? Nose Frida. The nose frida, where you suck out the snot?

Yes. Well, no, he's talking about a different one. We love doing it, but we have an electric one. They suck it like with their mouth. Oh, I, I, I can't judge me, Cody. I literally, if he, when he's doing it, if I watch or if I hear the sound, I like physically gag. No, it's good, you know, like, yeah, I, I,

I try to condition myself, so, you know, like, the harder I can... Intervene. It's like, it's like lung conditioning, I feel like. It gets me a better shape. You're going to fuck her brains out. You're going to eat her boogers. It's like that. No, no, is that?

So I thought that's something. Are you not into that? But there's like something that, like, stops it from going into... A filter of sorts, yeah. Is there, though? Like, how... Who eats the boogers between this work? We don't have to put it in our mouth.

Yeah, yeah, I know. It's just a sweet electronic booger sucker, which, yeah. I think we need to get that. You have to get it. You get just right on Amazon. Don't rob this joy from my life. Maverick loves it. She loves getting her boogers sucked out.

She, like, gets excited. She always has this big smile on her face, and she just opens her mouth, and she's like, ah. Drew screams bloody murder every time this happens. So I think we should are doing something wrong. Andrew is the only one that enjoys it. All right, so I'm curious, tell the story of how you two met. Yes. Go, take it away.

You want it for me? So we both got cast on a show called Big Brother. On a show called Big Brother. Yeah. Wow, never heard of a show. Yeah, yeah. I always wondered that because growing up, I watched it, sort of Jessica. And whenever I would try to bring it up with my friends, especially military friends,

look at me like I was an idiot, you know. I just didn't think too many people watch the show. You need new friends. It's a problem, it sounds like. Yeah. Are you auditioning? So we met on the show, fell in love right away, and then we ended up going on another TV show called The Amazing Race

where we won it together. You killed that. And we got married right away, and then we had a kid, and we're living. Living and loving. Dang. all history from there we told that so many times i'm sorry i just condensed the it was a cliff notes for sure i'm curious it's like the first interaction where you guys were kind of like

oh i could be into to cody like what was that like i don't mind what was yours i don't think you've ever told what your moment was my first reaction was to stay away from you because well it's it's so serious right now it's it's a game show right so you're you're you're you're It's a very selfish game show. You're out to win it for yourself. And just seeing her, I understood that my game would be completely messed up because I was into her immediately. So I tried to avoid her as long as possible.

I think it lasts 34 hours. But the long game was going to get upset. Who would have been, like, into me in the very beginning and, like, active about it, I would have been in the reverse mode, because when I saw him, I thought the exact same thing. Like, you're going to mess in my game. This isn't going to happen. Sorry. And then he kept leaving every room that I was in.

I was like, well, wait a minute. Oh, it was like that. Playing hard to get it. Yeah, it was a reverse psychology, and it's, I'm disappointed in myself, but it worked. Do you ever want to get the hot girl? Whatever. Whatever you can't. Yeah.

So what was your moment that you were like, Screw it. 24 hours later, I don't know. It didn't take long at all. But it was the greatest game move I could have ever made because even though we didn't win, we ended up being pretty popular coming out of there and cast for another TV show

where we ended up winning a million dollars. So go ahead, you got it. I have to. Major respect for Amazing Rice. Thank you, thank you. Not just because it's like a school show ever and you won. But because you were a couple that traveled together for a competition and won. Every time Andrew and I go to the airport, we end up in an argument because it's like, we travel differently.

He needs to show up to the airport with like 30 seconds despair. I need to show up and have at least like 30 minutes to get everything together. So, I mean, how do you pull that off? Well, I think it benefited me because Cody has this thing called blackout mode and whenever he goes to do things that he doesn't like he goes into like straight zombie blackout mode and one of the things he hates is traveling like the whole airport process so he's not actually mentally present so i can just like like a rag doll and direct him and he just like follows along mindlessly so that definitely helps uh and then besides that i think

we were both very conscious of like not wanting to argue on camera like it's something that we had done in the big brother house it happened one time in the big brother house and i mean just the way they they portrayed it and everything we understood how it even looked so we we actively avoided ever having any kind of conflict and uh and i feel like we do that now it means just kind naturally comes in. We just try and respect each other more as if there is a camera or something. Yeah, I think I'm traumatized from that fight on camera. Like, I've never felt so guilty and embarrassed from an argument. And it just wasn't nice. It was like, we were potentially breaking up in that moment. And I was so in love with him. And it was on camera.

And everyone in our cast was promoting the breakup. And it was just like, it was awful. It was not fun. I can't I can't imagine what it'd be like to have that moment recorded it's so weird like I feel like in love it's just you it's like a different version of you I feel like and then to have someone record these major interactions would be tough to look back on well we've come back through a lot of our arguments like our biggest arguments and then like with perspective and time you think back and like what were we even arguing about like nothing yeah sure and so again to have something like that recorded and then promoted and oh i can totally see that yeah i'm curious so um well first of all cody i'm i'm very familiar with blackout mode myself that's how like

for college football workouts yeah just like see you later in an hour and a half after this is uh over i'll be back in my body but or shopping shopping too i'm out yeah yeah tell me where to go but Yeah. Was there strategy? Were you guys cast to, like they said both of you or was there, like, Cody, you're on amazing race and then you had to be strategic and choosing a teammate. How did that go down? No, I was still on Big Brother and I was in the jury house and they snuck in a producer

to bring in paperwork and said, hey, Jessica's on board. We want to know if you're on board. We want to both have you on the amazing race. So I said, of course. and I didn't realize. I thought I was going to get out and there was going to be a lot of time. And they were like, no, you have five days. And then we're going to start shooting the Amazing Race.

So I got out of the Big Brother House and, I mean, Jessica, I mean, barely had any time together alone. And then we were back on camera for the Amazing Race. Wow. Yeah. That's kind of cool, though. I mean, I feel like forming a relationship on TV is one of the hardest things in the world because you have to protect your relationship on such a high level because you have so many opinions and editors and producers

trying to produce their story as well. How did you guys protect that on two back-to-back reality TV shows and find, you know, the real versus the edit? We're so stubborn. We're so, so, so stubborn as far as, like, I think we're very conscious of one of producers, like, trying to get us to say or do something, And we're just like, if it doesn't go with what we want to do or say, the answer is flat out no. And there's no changing that. And a lot of people don't realize that going on these shows. You know, one of the first times I was in front of a producer, he said, how do you feel about this situation? And I said how it felt. And then he said, okay, can you add this on the beginning? So I added it and then said how it felt. And then he said, can you add this on the end? And so I said what he said, and then he's like, all right, now just say that.

but without that middle part oh my gosh yeah so so you see just you see the manipulation immediately and jesska fortunately is very stubborn seeing with me and you know it's any time we experience that you don't have to go along with what the producer's saying you know you don't you don't have to do whatever they they tell you to do uh there's there's nothing in the contract that says you got to do that and it's funny when i was in the jury house i was so angry at that time because they had actually intentionally split up me and Jessica, a producer would come out there and you would put us on camera and talk to us. And every answer I gave was, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. So finally, when that one producer came out to

actually sign the contract for the Amazing Race, they asked me to give more since they were doing the Amazing Race for else. Yeah. And then also, the argument that we had within the Big Brother house they kept asking me to talk about it in the diary room and i knew that if i talked about it it was going to be a thing so i refused to talk about it i knew i knew if they didn't have me like giving my opinion or i wasn't going to talk to a producer about what i was feeling in that moment it just it didn't feel right and i also didn't want it to be like this whole segment on the show so they ended up having to use just like a little bit of the fight because they didn't have us talking about it with the producers so that actually worked out really well yeah go to you your i don't care response

on repeat made me think of marcia lunch i don't get fine but it's it's actually i i super respect you guys taking that approach uh sean and i went to go see a premarital counselor which was one of the most valuable things we have ever done as a couple and probably individually as well but they this guy made the point that like um engaging in that negative conversation about your significant other, whether it's with producers in your case or like extended family for, you know, everyone else who hasn't been on a TV show, only leads like bad things, right? Because it just kind of amplifies it and then and then, you know, it becomes a thing. It's like, you know what? This is, this is Sean and I's problem. We're going to deal with

it together and you guys are just outside. Not to say you shouldn't seek advice, but like there's an appropriate i feel like attitude to to going to ask someone's opinion on hey you know sean and i had this argument and approach that more level-headed than going into like a dramatic conversation with your family like you won't believe what shot just did and she just way different you know so i couldn't agree more with that i always try to be the friend that is like unbiased in their advice like if my girlfriend's complaining about their husband if she's wrong i'm going to her she's wrong but also you have to keep in mind that when you are complaining about your significant other two friends or family it also makes them start feeling a certain way about your spouse

yeah they're gonna have your back that's an issue yeah i could see it because they're like oh yeah you're right your husband's wrong so i'm gonna like not now i don't now i like your husband a little bit less or something like that that that obviously will affect your relationship in the future because then if your friends around your husband there's like awkward feelings and obviously you and your husband are going to make up, but then there's still resentment that your friends or family can't. It's better to just like deal with things. And then if you're going to talk about it, talk about it with less emotion. Hey, we have a celebrity guest we'd like you guys to meet. Here's nice.

Oh, hello. Yeah. Is that a golden? Yeah. That dog's huge. I think he just looked the mic. That was pretty aggressive. He was saying hi to the listeners. We had a dog, but he passed away in September, and we're so not okay after that I don't, it's going to take a long time before we ever consider getting another one. Well, he was amazing. He was such a good dog and he was so smart that it's, it's difficult to ever try and get another dog because, like, what if they're not that smart? What if they tear up the house and just poop everywhere? and yeah I mean this this one was just maintenance free and he was great yeah speaking of arguments dogs are probably the number one source for shannonized arguments it's like why

because I don't know because I was the crazy dog lady he was my dog and he was like my child back when I got him and Andrew had different opinions as to how I should raise my dog. No, it's just like... So we disagree. Yeah. It's like, you know, we both love dogs, but Sean treats him like an actual child.

I treat him like a dog that I love a lot. You know, that's like different. Does he sleep in the bed? That was my question. He actually doesn't. He doesn't sleep with us. He's allowed on the couch and the bed. He's allowed on there, but he doesn't sleep.

Here we go. Every night, he'll get in bed for like literally three minutes, and then he gets down and sleeps like on the floor. That's good. Andrew's like, if I had my way, most of the next, but he helps to get it. Oh, man. All right, I'm curious. All right, so Cody, I know you have a military background. You served for how many years?

Ten years. Dang. First of all, appreciate it. Yes. Yeah. And I think that's what actually contributed to my cast and a big brother, because. the military route I took was very different. I did six years in the Air Force and then I went into the Marine Corps after that.

Dude, I saw that. I was trying to figure that out. I was like, that's not normal. It says, I was so confused. I'm confused by like, you know, I don't know what a corporal versus a sergeant. And then I was like, Air Force must be a thing of the Marines. So once you, it's never a good career move to go to the Marine Corps because if you go from any other branch, you end up losing all your rank. and then you have to go through boot camp all over again.

Whoa. But you get to do war. Cool stuff like that. I don't know this question you're allowed to answer. It's just my curiosity. Send it. What is boot camp like? You can totally say I can't talk about it.

No, no, you can. Can't talk about fake months. It's just a miserable experience. So in the Air Force, it was only six weeks, but in the Marine Corps, it was three months. and it's just constant misery. Are you guys talking about marriage or? I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

That was intense. All right, everybody calmed out. I'm sorry. And you're sometimes like to do these jokes where he thinks they're funny and then realize that he says it that he's cross-line. Anyway. I'll press on. I'll bail you.

So three months for the Marine Corps. And it's so you're just, you're either too hot or too cold, you're always sweating no matter what, you're always dirty, you're always hungry, you're always tired, and just you just do that every day for three months. And there's constant yelling, but that's not as big of the deal as just what your body is physically feeling the entire time. But you just know that it's going to be over, so you just kind of drone out through the entire time. Are you guys talking about parenting or yelling? I'm kidding.

Can you laugh just one time? I just, it's my life goal. Jessica, continue to dig. Jessica, what were you doing before Big Brother? I moved around a lot, so I've lived in nine states now that we're in Texas. And when I was, before Big Brother, I was in L.A. And I was working at a club called Hyde. I was doing bottle service.

And I was actually at this stage of my life where I was just like, okay, It's time to grow up, and I was trying to figure out what I wanted to actually do with my life. And then the opportunity for Big Brother came, and I was like, should I take it? Or is this just pushing off, like, the inevitable of me dealing with my future? And I ended up taking it. I was scared, shitless, but it worked out. So I'm glad I did it. Actually, there's no cussing a lot on our podcast, so.

I feel like, is that, I feel like that's not true. I've listened to your episode. I thought about it for a second. No, we didn't hear less. Are you having fun? I am. Another completely random question, but something that we dealt with when I got pregnant was, because you guys are coming from the reality TV world,

you guys are influencers, you have so many people following your journey, your story. How have you guys face? the whole concept and transition of sharing your daughter and that life with the world. Get to Toronto's main venues like Budweiser Stage and the new Roger Stadium with Go Transit. Thanks to Go Transit's special online e-ticket fairs, a $10 one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel on any weekend day or holiday anywhere along the Go network, and the weekday group passes offer the same weekday travel flexibility across the network, starting at $30 for two people and up to $60 for a group of five.

Buy your online go pass ahead of the show at go-transit.com slash tickets. We never really had an issue, like showing any of that aspect. Right. I mean, people are going to be rude no matter what. So we've had to obviously deal with, like, trolling. I've actually had, I think, like, two comments where people have. said like does your daughter have cancer or something like why is she bald which is completely awful do you know anything about chilled like right so it's it's hard sometimes seeing the comments we have

pretty thick skin so every once in a while there'll be a couple that get under my skin cody's never phased by anything though uh no no because it i mean if i don't there's only a few people in this world, his opinions matter to me. So it's not like some random person says something. I think too much about it. But as far as putting your kid out there right away, you know, you two have an Instagram for Drew, right? Yeah. Yeah. I just think that's setting them up for success. And it's, social media is normal these days. So if you don't teach them how to properly and responsibly use it as they grow up, they're eventually. going to phase it anyway so you might as well just expose it to him right away and then teach

him how to responsibly deal with everything. I like that a lot. Well said, Cody. I just had someone on the podcast two days ago and she was talking about how she has an Instagram account for her son and he has enough followers where he can get brand deals and he's little. And she's been putting all of his money in a savings account for college, which I think is phenomenal. Like how can you be mad about that yeah we had the same conversation of like if if we can monetize anything from her it's going into a savings account a college fund you know a trust for her because it's yeah it's incredible yeah I never I never thought about it until she said it which might make me a bad mom but as soon as she said I was like why aren't we doing that that's genius it did not make you a bad mom

what was that the podcast you did that took our spot that day we were supposed to initially have this interview or no That was just replaced with me getting the talk and have them a little bit more downtime. I actually appreciate it more than you know that you guys canceled the first time in safety sanity a little bit. So thank you. We had to cancel for people listening because Drew had an absolute meltdown, unexpected, and there was no consoling her. So we were in, you know, the parent, like frenzy. Yeah.

Hold on one second. Andrew, how do you let your wife grow your hair that long? I have been trying to get him to cut it for so long, and he won't. I kid you not, probably twice a day. She's like, it's time to cut your hair, Andrew. I'm like, look at this. It looks good. Ponytail length.

Don't make it look bad. No. I wanted to get mine to that length. But Jessica, I just got this. I'm not going to lie. I love the ponytail. Like, you can rock the ponytail, but. down

if he starts borrowing your partner imagine if I said that about your hair what if I said that about your hair how did you feel she's what if I'm an emotional being as well he has told me that the kind of hair he would love me to rock is jet black Bob

yeah baby now you're talking my language talk dirty to me baby you want someone that's not you Now you know what to get for Valentine's Day, you get one of those wigs. Yeah, I'll just get a wig for a day. And you're present to her as cutting your hair. No, no. All right, so you guys have done such a diverse selection of things.

And Jess, we share this in common, having a podcast about people who have made these transitions. If you could tell us about your Now What podcast, that'd be awesome. that we were just on. You know what? Now what just kind of happened out of nowhere, it wasn't something that I was trying to do or even was on my radar and I was presented by this,

we'll put this opportunity from some friends who started working with podcast one and I didn't realize how much I was actually going to enjoy it. Like I really, really love it. It's such a learning experience. Every time you make an episode and put something out and you get feedback, you learn what works,

what doesn't. And my favorite, part of podcasting has actually been getting my hands on people that I wouldn't typically be able to have a conversation with. Like you guys, for instance, like would have never in real life actually not going to walk up to you at the airport and be like, hey, want to grab coffee and have a conversation? That would make me a weirdo. But now I'm like, hey, when I come on my podcast and have a conversation and you said yes. So I get to just have these conversations with people that I admire people that I watch on TV and I get to, you know, lock down my husband

for an hour and have a conversation with me that we can share with people and i love it it's been a lot of fun we're going into year two and i am going to continue doing it and hopefully it produce better and better content so i'm happy i love that speaking of coffee cody tell us about couple's coffee uh i'm a coffee drinker it's uh i don't know if it's part of a military how do you take your coffee black straight black so that's that and that's why i made it uh the way i did i i i've started off with one specific coffee and it's a it's flavored coffee but it's I made sure that it's what I like to say sweet enough for her but strong enough for him so that way I like that whenever me and Jessica have or any other couple has coffee in the morning you know she

likes her sweet and I like mine strong and black so it just it fulfills both those needs and yeah so that's on Amazon right now I have Over 500 ratings. It's, uh, it was one of the top average customer review coffees for quite a bit. Wow. Still, I'm pretty sure on that front page. And yeah, still five star average review. It's delicious. Like, I hate drinking Starbucks now and I'm not exaggerating. I love, love, love his coffee. It's so good. Can I see what we just kind of worked on? Yeah. Okay. Amazon contacted us and we are going to go to their studios and, uh, we're going to be presenting different

Valentine's Day gift ideas and it's going to be on their landing page and they're going to also showcase couples coffee let's go boy let's go I love that man so so so if anybody wants some couples coffee to find it all you got to do is go to couples coffee.com and give it a shot boom that's amazing yeah that was a sweet moment you guys just shared yeah it's freaking dope that's a big deal I do. I am curious. Last question. If anyone has ever turned your question around on you guys with the now what?

So like, now what? No, no one has done that. Yes. So thank you. Yeah, I love that. Well, I mean, it's not really original because it's hers. It's like, you know. It was a great question, though.

Like we talked about on my podcast, I have really big dreams for 2020, which include a lot of traveling. So in February, we're going on, like, my dream vacation. We're going to Rome and Paris. Let's go! Yeah! Let's go! I'm sorry. You're probably blowing out the audio. I'm sorry. The second time was even funnier, just like the other joke was twice, and it was funnier the second time. Thank you. Repetition and perseverance are my strong. So lots of traveling this year, Cody's going to hate that, but we're going to do it. I like America, so I don't like to travel a lot, and it's just, I, I almost feel like people should travel to every state in the United States before they travel outside.

I mean, that's the point. No, he doesn't. Sean. Just do a really quick road trip. But Rome and Barris are pretty dope. Yeah. We're excited for the food. We're going to make.

Sean Lott. In 2020 also, it's going to happen. All right. Okay. There's not one in the oven right now, but ask us in a month or two and that might change. Who knows? Who knows? Wow.

Sean Lyd, that was not the last question. Are we on your podcast? Are we on your podcast? You get, you talking about Cody's coffee was really heartwarming. I'm curious. Can Cody, you say some of the things you love about. Jessica what are some of the things oh yeah please go ahead here's the mic she she is is ruggedly independent for just just any kind of person not just a woman

and she just no seriously it's the way she spearheads everything in life and in her career it's just it's it's amazing to see I didn't realize how business-oriented she was you know meeting her or anything like that or but just watching her tackle everything and how many opportunities she gains not because of them just coming to her she is actively seeking out opportunities and she just knows how to articulate things in a way that's such that's so natural like i'm not articulate at all but she's clearly so she's so she's she's able to I'm just kidding we're friends but she's she's just such a natural and it's it's great to see and I'm excited for our daughters to see that and then be able to emulate her

can I do the thing where I pick up the mic and yeah I like that I thought you were going to do it I thought you were gearing up for it that was really nice and it was very well set all right toss it back Jessica we always love asking couples this because it just shows Different dynamics. It's just beautiful. Okay, Jessica, your turn. Okay, so Cody is just the most patient human in the world, and I'm not. So it's definitely something that I aspire to be because he's so great at it. And then just the way that he wants to raise our kids, like I'm so excited for our children to have a dad like him because he's so active and he wants to play such an active role in their lives and teach them how to be the best

at everything, and he's open to, like, not just taking the traditional path, but also teaching them how to be their own individual and not just, like, live in our shadow and just stand out. So I'm excited, I love him as a father. Like, I'm just really, it's my favorite, it's my favorite thing about you. It's just, like, the kids that we're going to raise together because of everything that he stands for and everything that he's been through and he's going to teach them, like, teaching Cody's my favorite. Wow. That's amazing. entire guide laid out. There's like a 10-page guide. I call it the Nixon guide and there's just

it's got everything on there. Do you all ever think about like your kids like as much success as you had what they're going to think like are they getting to match mom and dad or trying to see I think about it every day and it like terrifies me because I mean we've had me personally every single person I meet, they're always like, oh, are you going to put your daughter in gymnastics? Or like, your daughter has to be a gymnast. And just that alone, I think is a perfect example for, I mean, both of our kids' situations of the world already has pressure on our kids to be something. And I hate that.

Like, I want them to feel driven and pushed and challenged, but I don't want them to feel like if they don't do what the world wants or pressure is, like, is putting pressure on them to become, that they've somehow coming up. come up short and it's such an interesting situation to be in as a parent because how do you raise them around that you don't want to like shelter them from the successes of their parents but you also want them to be individuals and feel like they can do whatever they want on their own well the good news is from my end you know i've experienced a little less success set a little lower bar so you know I think Drew can at least, you know, have that tissue for us.

Is there anything that you're going to do with your children to try to, like, offset that? Or how are you going to handle it? I don't know how we're going to handle it. But do you have to be it? Because it's hard. I mean, we've talked about even just, like, memorabilia that hangs in our house. It's, like, I don't want them to feel like they're living in mom and dad's success. But you also want that success to drive them.

and prove to them that you can do anything. I don't know how we're going to do it. We've talked through scenarios and situations, and I want our daughter to try gymnastics because I think it's truly the greatest sport out there, but I then don't want her to feel pressure to stay in it. And I don't know if there's any, you know, coach out there that could coach our child unbiased.

And I don't know. It's just like there's too much. It's too much pressure. I don't know how to do it. I think our general strategy is just to try to raise as strong of a daughter as possible without trying to brag to brag about anything we've done. So anyway. That's such a good point about the memorabilia.

I wouldn't have never thought of that. I mean, we have pictures from the amazing race. And then Cody was nominated for a People's Choice Award. And so we have that right here in our office. Yeah. And in the living room. And now that you're pointing that out, it's like I always worry about, relationships that our children will have in the future and the aspect of like mom and dad

met in this like picture perfect kind of idea like on a TV show we fell in love and we had a bunch of babies like I don't ever want them to feel pressure of this fairy tale story you know what I mean yes there she is you want to see how oh hi maverick oh geez oh geez She's beautiful. Oh, my gosh. Her and Drew would be friends for sure. Say hi. Can you wave?

No? You just go on my head off. Hi. How old is she? She's 10 months. Oh, my gosh. Oh, you're loaves. Wow.

Hey. Well, super pumped. We could meet Maverick. I understand you guys have your hands full. So thank you so much for. for joining us on the show. Super pumped to have you guys' new friends, too. Yeah, for sure.

We're going to send you some coffee. We'll send you guys some honey. Yeah, we'll do a little trade-off. We'll do like a couple's coffee with some honey in it. Yeah, love that. All right. If you guys haven't yet, have a rich in your podcast. Oh, yeah, do you get, yeah, go ahead and do the promo.

Where can people find you? You want us to pin our name? Yourself out. Okay, so the, um, my, My Instagram is... Oh, my goodness. All right, there's mom. Great, I have that to look forward, too.

My Instagram is at the Jessica Nixon. Maverick's Instagram is at Maverick Nixon. We have the Now What show Instagram page. You can find a brand new episode of Now What's out every week for Wednesday. You can find Cody at Cody the Marine on Instagram. also you can try couples coffee at wuww.w.couffi.com. You said a worldwide web earlier and you really brought me back to like the 90s.

Same. I heard that I was like, did you just say worldwide web? I don't know why it did that. Anyway, great to meet you. Yes, thank you so much. Thanks for having us. You know, Thank you.