Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 46 LaurDIY + Jeremy Lewis

Episode Date: December 9, 2020

Today in episode 46 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we sit down with Lauren Riihimaki (LaurDIY) & Jeremy Lewis. Many of you might know Lauren as LaurDIY, but today we sit down and learn all about their life and relationship outside of the public eye. A few topics we cover: how they impressed each other from the first date what its been like adjusting from each others polar different lifestyles strategy with dating apps good and Bad pick up lines having a podcast and a normal job Dating someone who is famous Dealing with baggage If you haven’t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format – we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail]. Last but not least, learn more about Lauren, Jeremy, and all they do at the links below. ––– Follow @laurdiy on IG ▶https://www.instagram.com/laurdiy/?hl=en  Follow @jeremymichael22 on IG ▶ https://www.instagram.com/jeremymichael22/ LaurDIY’s YouTube ▶ https://www.youtube.com/laurDIY  Laurens website ▶ https://laurdiy.com/  ––– We’re supported by the following companies we love! Make sure to check them out using our links below. Enfamil! ▶ Try Enfamil® Enspire™ by visiting https://shop.enfamil.com/eastfam and enter coupon code EASTFAM to receive $3 off an Enfamil® Enspire™ Infant Formula 20.5 oz. tub.  Best Fiends! ▶ Download Best FiendsFREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play. That’s FRIENDS without the R –Best Fiends! Skillshare! ▶ So explore your creativity at https://Skillshare.com/EASTFAMand get a free trial of Premium Membership! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. With Sean and Andrew. A podcast all about couples. And the things they go through. Today we have Lauren Rea Mackey and Jeremy Lewis. Yes. And this is a fun, fun. We had fun doing this one. We did. Word of caution. We were a little more PG-13 than we usually are. That's something I love about this podcast, though, is we truly allow our guests to be them.

We don't censor them. We don't edit them. They get to be them. That's right. this couple is fun and we talk about all about we talk about all about we talk about all blah we talk all about dating so for all of you out there who are dating who are single this episode is for you we talk about uh dating app dating app strategies yes we talk about one liners or like pickup lines and we talk about how i have no game but the game that i do think works and what that is yes we talk about like the strategies behind trying to find your person and then once you do find a person, how that dating dynamic works. Yeah. And one thing that Jeremy and I actually kind of

discussed and I thought it was interesting was dating someone who's in the limelight. Yes. Me dating you and then Jeremy dating Lauren who Lauren is known as Lord DIY on the internet has a massive following. She's a boss. You've almost I think statistically have seen one of our videos. Yeah. That's just how it breaks down. But we do on this podcast. And if you enjoyed this conversation, then go check out more of Jeremy and Lauren. They just launched a podcast called Wild Till 9. It is wild.

It's maybe it's like the edgier version of our podcast. Yeah, it is for sure. In a lot of ways. But it's fun. Check it out. If you just look at the titles of their shows, you can understand that. But we're grateful Jeremy and Lauren joined us. If you want to find out more about them and what they're up to, we'll link their information in the show notes down below.

And before we get started, please subscribe to this show and give it a rating on whatever platform you're listening to. I hope you're having a fantastic December so far. Hope you're gearing up for the holidays. And let's just go ahead and jump into this one with Lauren and Jeremy. Okay. Here we go. I'm a run start, guys. On us.

on us. Jeremy and what? Go ahead. I was saying, it's great to meet you guys. Yeah, yeah. Jeremy and Lauren, thanks for taking the time. It's a pleasure to meet both of you.

Nice to meet you both, too. We are so scared. Nervous. Wait, how many interviews have you done together? How many, how many episodes? Like interviews have you done together where you aren't interviewing people, but you're being interviewed?

Less than five, I'd say. Yeah, but that's not why we're nervous. Why are you nervous? There's an imaginary swear jar right here. Oh, my God. Right here. And she should have brought her one. We'll keep a telly, I promise.

I will say it's funny. Your team sent over, you know, some background of both of you and about the podcast. And I think they said some of the subject matter may not be fit for Sean and Andrews' podcast. I was like, I don't know. I mean, we're, I guess we're kind of. PG, but no, we would love, we would love to get the full Jeremy and Lauren personality. No, no, no, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. We're going to tailor for your audience. We're going to do well. We're going to do our best.

Keep, yeah, we'll try our best. Yeah. The imaginary swear jar is definitely there and we're going to be on our best behavior. Okay. All right. That being said, first topic of discussion, I want to hear initial thoughts. It's going to be word association. I'm going to say something. You say your first reaction. Okay. When I say butt plug Thursday, you say, I. Demonetized.

Dementitized is what I think of. Sorry, Mom. Okay. When I say, when I say sex with friends' exes, you say,

nothing. You want to take this one? Lessons learned. Okay. All right. All right. These are, I think we continue this throughout the episode.

I'm just going to continue randomly throw out podcast episodes in case there's ever a lull. But it is a pleasure to meet you too. We're excited to have yawn. We're excited that you're now in the podcast realm. Yes. Launched wild till nine. I would actually love if you guys just start off talking about the show. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, for sure. So I'm an internet person. An internet person. An internet person originally. And so I was doing DIY stuff forever on you. YouTube and still am, but, uh, I've been on YouTube for nine years. And so we launched this project together, uh, 16 episodes ago. So it, it's fairly new. And it's just been so fun kind of like

joining. I feel like we're like a little late to the podcast, um, timeline and or, or right on time. I don't know, right on time. I think right on time. Right on time. Yeah. Anyways, it's just like so fun to have like longer form conversations and talk about things like butt plug Thursday that I wouldn't typically be able to talk about on YouTube. I mean, very true. Here's a funny thing with podcasts in general. It's like,

it's just radio. Like everybody's late to the, if you start a podcast, you're late to the game because radio started however 19 freaking, I actually don't know the date when radio started. It's a full circle world where everyone started on radio went to YouTube and digital. And now they're coming back to podcast, which is radio.

So we'll revisit some more detail. of the show, but we always like to start off. Just tell us how you two met. Sure. You have to say it from your perspective. No, no, no. I am not a very good storyteller. I have trouble finding, like, the key points of a story,

and it'll be too long. The key points of how we met? Go ahead. I feel you. I'll give you the sparked notes. Let's see, 2017? And the reason it's shaky is because we initially met, she had just released.

Well, released. She had just finished a, musical parody, would you call it? Oh, yeah, like, parody. I don't know if you remember, like, the roast yourself raps that were popular on YouTube, like three or four years ago. Yes.

So she had just finished a masterpiece. A banger. And I worked at a company that was basically specializing in music distribution specifically for independent artists. And I am an artist, obviously. And her management company was a client of ours. And so we basically distributed this track.

And because Lauren does have a, you know, massive audience, it did blow up and it was huge. So there was a bit of personal attention in terms of me on a call with her and her assistant, the one that just walked in here. And so it was like a very casual thing. I was engaged at the time. Engaged. And she had a boyfriend. And this was years and years ago.

And, I mean, distributed song, went out fine, thought nothing more of it. And then fast forward a couple years later, I'm no longer engaged. She was single as of like 10 minutes before. and I saw her on, you know what Raya is? Yes. Wow. First of all, congrats on being celebs.

Both of you, congrats. Nice. I'm getting verified on the Raya app. Casual flex right there. Casual flex. Well, of course, I got on it because I knew one of the guys

that coded it. She got on it because she's supposed to be on it, right? And so I saw her on Raya. But the number one rule of Raya, you don't actually meet anybody on Raya. So, of course, I basically saw that she was single. And so I went over to Instagram.

did a couple swipes up and I go, ah, there's a dog here. We'll DM her about the dog. Oh, my gosh. And guess what she writes back? No, no, no, no, no. Nothing. She writes nothing back. She writes nothing back.

And so nothing goes by two weeks later, whatever. I get a notification from Hinge. Hey, friend. And she says one of the most lame first line things I'd ever seen, but says hi to me on Hinge. and I proceeded to ask her out within seconds. I feel like you guys were like cyber-stocking each other around every social app. Literally.

What are we doing here? I'm curious because we met way too early before any of this happened. So I don't even know how I was swat in the DMs. Yeah. Oh. Which makes us actually sound really old, which is crazy. Um, but I'm curious. What?

Before fleets? Pre-fleet. Yes. Wait, what's fleet? Oh, come on, boomers. Come on. You're in our age. You tell these things.

I don't even know what this is. It's a temporary story that Twitter released yesterday. It's stories on Instagram but on Twitter. Yeah. The fleet. Yeah. Oh my God. I didn't know about this.

There's too many to keep up with. Too many to keep up with 100%. But I'm curious. Back when you guys like we're. cyber-stalking each other were you was like Instagram considered more aggressive than Raya or vice versa? Was there like a strategic play as to which social platform you talk to each other on? Definitely. Definitely. Specifically because Raya in particular is just a cesspool for you want to be seen on Raya. I don't think anyone, maybe there are happy marriages that have happened because

of Raya. I don't know anyone that's gone on an actual date from Raya. Like I genuinely I haven't either. And so many friends on Ryan and no one that's ever actually, like, met with someone. It's a very, not to mention the level of, like, security is a big risk because it shows when you're at, like, if you're at Soho House, it will show you that you're literally there whether you're matched with someone or not. Anyway, long story short, you said your buddy coded it. So let's, let's not go. Right. Yeah.

Well, anyway, so he, uh, Instagram was perfect because I don't post a ton, but there's enough information about me on Instagram to show that I am single. since I wasn't the last time we saw each other I like dogs she's got a dog and it just seemed like more of like a casual way to say hi So you strategically decided the DM situation would work on Instagram

because that's the visual you wanted to give her Right exactly yeah That is strategic I don't even think I thought about it that deep So but the problem was is that Because we weren't following each other It went to like the general inbox And so when he says that I responded

with nothing, that makes it seem like that was a conscious choice. I just never saw the DM in my defense. Like, there was something shady or salty going on. Okay, but two years later, I just never saw it. Two years later, I see how she scours her generals to see if there's anything of interest to respond back to. And so I must have been so far down the priority list that she got that. Nah, I'm all right.

She was like, me. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I have to ask, what was the lame line she led with, though? Oh, it was, it was literally. Okay, so... A friend. I'm not, I had been single for like six seconds, and I had been single in so long, and I was just getting back into the dating game.

I have no game. Like, I want to be very clear and forward about that. I have zero flirtatious abilities in any form. And I was kind of like going for people that I had a connection with or had previously known. Like, I was looking for familiar faces on hinge. And so when I saw Jeremy, I was like, oh, that's the... That's the music guy. Wasn't he engaged?

Did a deep dive and some stalking, some light stalking. Right. And then slid in with the very romantic and flirtatious pay friends. I need to get a little more specific here. So we did a deep dive on all platforms. Oh, yeah. Oh, I can find anything on the internet. Give me like a first and last name.

The question being, why hinge? Um, I feel like hinge and I feel like they should be paying us. by like how how nice we are to their app because we always speak so highly of it. But I feel like Hinge just like has a higher quality dating pool because it's more effort to make the profile. Like with Tinder, you could upload one photo and no biography where Hinge,

you had to have, I think, five photos and answer three questions or else you couldn't have a profile. So higher quality. Well, it's not just the profile itself. The way that you reach out, you're able to either just say that you like something or within the profile.

A professional. A dating app professional right here. Classes in session. You can actually pick which profile picture you liked and comment on it within your first outreach. Like for hers, like she went to like one of my profile, like the pictures itself was like,

oh my God, hey friend kind of thing. As opposed to just saying approve. Right, right. Instead of just being like, there's layers of this onion. Did you find the message? Did you give up?

But I will find it. No worries. No, it's okay. We can just leave that. We can leave that in the past. So, Lauren, here's the deal. I feel like there's a lot of parallels between our stories here. I also reached out to Sean via social media and gave the weakest.

I have zero game. Like my game is like, oh, you know, this guy's game is so bad it's cute, right? That's game, though. I would say that's game. No, your game is that you were playing college football headed to the NFL. You don't need game. That's true. Well, speaking of cyberstocking,

Jeremy. A couple things. First of all, your Insta game is weak for sure. Second of all, I saw via LinkedIn, which I found you on. You're a UK grad. So I don't know how much you know about college football in the first place. I know Vanderbilt's not going to win this year. Yeah. No. UK will win. Yeah. Dang, dog. Okay. All right. You said that up yourself. I did. And then he blasted me. But what hell of a place to get an NBA? Thank. Yeah. That's not. not easy. That's not easy. This guy, this guy knows how to cyberstock. I'm freaking out. Oh, man. I'm, I'm embarrassed. I'm almost crying. Um, okay. Was there how soon after, did you guys share, like on your first day, are you dishing out all the, uh, like the, the baggage of previous

relationships and stuff? Like, how quickly do you move? Lauren, I know like your reason, based off your recent video of truth or truth or drink. I could see maybe that lending itself to opening up more, but I'm not sure on a personal level how that works. He did his research. I'm like, I don't go back to my notes here. Um, I will say that we had each other's locations by the second date. What do you mean by location? Wait, like you shared, you had constant shared location. You're freaking lying. Is that what you're saying? No way. That's literally. really what we're saying. So, so, yeah, so like, I don't know if you guys use find my friends. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so find friends. So Jeremy had accidentally ubered to like the wrong,

um, the wrong intersection that was like near my neighborhood, but not quite. So he shared his location for me to come get him, um, because he was like at the wrong end of the street. And I was like, okay, yeah, like no worries. And then he never unshared it after that date. And so me being like, well, I'll, I guess I'll just keep it. And so, We obviously we started dating eventually, but second date moving forward, we had each other's locations 24-7- Here's the question, though. How frequently did you check that? This is not okay. This is not good, my view. I'm curious, and I check it all the time. Okay.

She has, I mean, remember like the Myspace Top 8? She's got a Myspace top 16 at least of her friends locations at all times. Honestly, find friends is kind of like an extra social media for me like I'm just and you know like post COVID security nightmare post COVID I'm like no one's anywhere but I'm always like oh like who's hanging out where is everyone in LA right now it's like it's like an extra social media for me so I I will say that like we have our own personal like tracker for who's been with who see if there's any sort of contagious kind of behavior yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah so the sharing the sharing to answer your question um I think in all respects sharing happened pretty quickly. Yeah. We did go pretty zero to a hundred and yeah but also on our first date

Jeremy comes in hot being like asking just like these deep philosophical questions that you're just like oh my god like I am in a pop quiz right now. Well I feel like I sometimes on my first date actually my first probably three or four days I'm still on a lot of first dates also um feel free to dive into that later on and interrogate right around that one. Um I feel like in my first few days I'm still more like on like business sales mode. So I'm just like, I'm peeling back layers of the onion here and like asking questions that like, of you or me? Me, you.

I feel like I was like very much like asking questions that you don't necessarily hear on first dates. And you're also an open book when asked. Oh yeah. You're not a very secretive person, but I feel like I asked questions you weren't used to hearing. So we kind of like dove in pretty quickly. For sure me. Give me two questions that should never be asked on a first date.

Oh, God. Well, Jeremy had a girl show up to a first date with a, checklist. What? Dang. She had a checklist. No wonder if we girls get such a bad rap. Are you kidding?

I know. I know. Like for the female gender, like I want to apologize. Like having like a checklist and having a. A checklist. Okay. So what are your thoughts on? I mean, she prepared and had a just and you could tell it was very much.

We got to hit certain things. And if not, it was nice to see you. I have another day to date. I need this table. I would have ran the other direction. Yeah. If you brought that out, Like, you should leave.

Right. I try and steer clear, at least for me anyway, I try and steer clear of asking about the other person's last relationship until they bring it up, which seems like counterintuitive, but like I think it's more important. It's a better indicator if they're interested in bringing it up throughout the conversation all the time and you didn't ask. That says more than you asking about it and them giving a clear answer. That's too, I think that's a really insightful point. I also, I think that your strategy of peeling back the onions and going deep, it's actually

a form of game as we were talking about. Like, I think some girls love that. Some girls are like, oh my gosh, I've never been asked these type of questions, you know? So it's like, it's good. I don't know. I've never done that. You did do your research. So.

So anyway, but it's an interesting. I'm curious, you mentioned the first. dates, though. Lauren, are you pro a lot of first dates or against that? Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra. Um, I am a notorious serial dater, so I really haven't been on that many first dates. Mm-hmm. Um, I feel like when I would be on a dating app in between serial dating relationships,

I was pretty picky on who I actually went on dates with. And again, like, especially last time I was single. I was trying to only talk to people in my early stages of like being single that I had like a second connection with in some way just to be like, okay, like I'm not ready to go on a date with a total stranger yet. And, uh, yeah, so I think I went on three dates before Jeremy and I went on a date. And then I was really planning on being single for a very long time. Like I had gotten under a pretty rough relationship.

And I was like, I'm going to be single, live my L.A. single life. And then Jeremy shared his location on Fine Friends. And I was like, well, I'm in now. Now I have to ask him to unshare it. Can't do that. So here we are two years later. Okay. So I have a part two question, Jerry.

What's your favorite first date question to ask? Oh, well, it's been a while now. my favorite that adds so much pressure to it or just one you would recommend people listening to write down and take with them i like to hear about i'm all about passion i want to hear what people are interested in that has nothing to do with their job so and to me it's like when you ask someone what is most interesting to you if they talk about something that's related to their job to a degree obviously it's great and it's wonderful that they overlap but to me it's like i like someone and i told her this if you are the best nitter in the world you

you just sit there and just cross knit, whatever it is, but you're passionate about it and can speak to it at length. Did you say cross fit? Cross fit. Cross. Cross. Cross. Cross. Is that even a thing? No. You see of crocheting. Yeah, that too. Or cross stitching. See? She knows all these things. Isn't that great? But no, to me it's like I love when people are passionate about something because that passion is just attractive to me. All right. So, Jeremy, this is not something that I talk about a lot because there's not a lot of people that can relate to it. But I'm curious. So you, You two have been dating what for two years, is that right? Two years as of a week ago or so, yeah.

So Lauren had already been on the internet for seven years. She already had, she was already a huge deal, right? It was kind of a similar situation with me and Sean where Sean, I, Sean had this massive career pre me. I never even saw her competing in gymnastics. And obviously she had a pretty good success in doing that. But people, like, how much did the, how much did you try to separate the Lauren that had the brand, Lord DIY,

from Lauren who you were pursuing romantically? That's a good question. It is a good question. I think that I have, unfortunately, and unfortunately, more experience in this specific department being working in L.A. around tech that kind of touches entertainment. And so I feel like I quite often see

the personality or the persona of that someone puts forward because of their career and their job and the facade they have to create just to have longevity and the one that they truly are. And I think some people kind of mix those two up. Lauren is, I said this right from the beginning, she is absolutely the best and phenomenal at being able to keep those two separate. And the real person she is at home is this like genuine, interesting kind individual that is just showing her talents on the internet, but she's still that same person behind closed doors and to me that was kind of what just like sealed the deal of like what I was most interested in that was first of all oh my god that was very romantic

hats off to you Jeremy I just want to be very clear that this is not the typical dialogue that would happen between the two of us when we're not on a podcast I emailed before and said make sure to ask that question makes you make me look really good so but it's interesting right because people ask me like or you know trolls will say you just married her because she's famous or whatever and like oh yeah when i sit down but when i honestly sit back and evaluate it's like okay what part of me was excited by the fact that she had the success and it's like i have to admit that to a certain degree as much as i tried not to let that distract us because it was like in my mind marriage is a huge deal it's a massive commitment and like i want to i want to

marry this girl who i had all these you know checklists for beforehand right like i had you were a crazy one no but you get my point but but But it was like, it's hard not to let that distract because it's like, oh, we're sitting at a dinner and now people want to take, and it's like that, that does enter the evaluation at a certain point. So anyway, I wasn't sure if you could relate to that or not. Well, I can relate to it. One more thing I'll say to is that I will say that I've, this isn't the first relationship I've been in or even the person I've dated that has a persona or someone knows of that individual online before they have any actual relationship. yeah yeah and seeing the way that Lauren handles it in particular it was a check that I didn't know that I even that was even something that was attractive to me but just seeing the way that

she handled it honestly just made it even more attractive that's some deep stuff right there okay Lauren now your turn going into dating going into first dates meeting Jeremy meeting even other guys that you went on first dates with in the whole dating scene how did your brand how you approach those situations. Oh my God. What were the boundaries that guys couldn't cross or they could when it came to separating and prioritizing you over your brand? I mean, even if I was just talking to someone that I hadn't met yet to see if like there

was the possibility of going on a first date, I would try and just say that like I was in marketing or advertising or digital, worked in digital and stuff just to avoid. I mean, it's just like so uncomfortable. to be in a position and so vulnerable where a total stranger can go on a deep dive of seven years worth of content of my entire life that I've put on the internet and like I know their first name and that they live 13 miles away like that's just such an uneven starting point so I would try and like I would never connect my Instagram to my dating profile and I would just not beat around the bush I'd say but try and just keep it as vague as possible so that like that conversation could happen in person. And I mean, I got really lucky with Jeremy because he's a great middle point of someone who doesn't want to be famous

and be in the spotlight and, you know, make content every single day and capture vlogging and stuff like that. And I was, I mean, one of my main checks for someone when I got back into dating was like, I want to date someone who does not want to be an influencer. And that was like my number one. one thing because I just got out of a relationship that was just all centered around that.

And he was a good middle point of someone who understands what I do, but also isn't going to exploit me for followers or money or any kind of like fame game. What she's saying is I have bad Instagram game. I actually work in your neighbor. We already know. It was a pro in my book. We already know. Going a step further, though, were there ever any points in relationships in the beginning, even with Jeremy, when you guys get like a little heavier in, where your brand in that fame that comes with the internet scares you that it could affect your relationship?

Oh, I mean, for sure. Like, I'm not unaware that I come with a very specific kind of baggage. To go back into the dating world, I was like, oh, my God. like this is this is such an intense thing to put on someone if they've never uh like if they're not familiar with like a digital content creator like having so many followers know so many intimate elements of your life is like not something that's very common and so it's it's scary to like think about having to like bring someone into my world because you kind of have no choice like if you start dating someone like obviously we were able to do it over time and it was

a slow rollout of introducing Jeremy to my fans. And having 17-year-old kids in Iowa tell me how ridiculous and stupid and how I'll never be as good as the last one. Yeah, exactly. Thanks, Jack. It's like a strategic rollout to like bring someone into your world, but it's kind of something that you don't have that much control over and eventually it just has to happen. Well, and that was my next question is that transition period for you guys

where you're not in the thick of your relationship yet. you're not two years in where you have that confidence in that, like, infrastructure. How did that affect your relationship at the beginning? Having, you know, tens of millions of opinions being thrown at you about what your relationship actually was, what it looked like, to all the outsiders. How did you manage to filter that out between each other? So online, the use of literal comment filters, a very good friend of mine, muting and filtering out specific cue.

words, because people don't like change, you know what I mean, especially fans that have been with you for so long and have seen other relationships you've been in. They don't, they don't like change. And so it took a while for them to eventually accept and love Jeremy, but two years later, here we are and it's finally happening. I didn't go away. Jeremy, I thought you were reaching behind you to smoke a pipe real quick and that would have been epic if you would have just reached and then it just took a hit real. Anyway, that was complete Distraction. But I think for us, again, like, Jeremy has, like, a deep understanding of, like, what I do.

And so there were just, it was just, it was just something to be conscious about. So if I was vlogging, you know what, here's a great example. So the first Christmas that we had spent together, we would have only been dating for, like, two months. And even though I hung up a stalking that had a J on it, I would take it down every time I'd film a video so that it didn't just, like, launch people into an investigation of who the J. might be because it was so soon after my last breakup and so it was just always being conscious about um controlling how much information was going out dang wait how soon did you put a stocking up after you guys started dating though i mean dang hold on we just kind of glossed over that we

we had that very like we started like i don't even know if we were officially dating and like her parents were coming into town from toronto like three three weeks or so like after we met And like I was around and had we, we wouldn't have gone out of our way, obviously for me to meet the parents at that stage, but because they were in town and there was a holiday a couple months later. If things like really just like accelerated with the timeline, naturally, but we definitely did things faster than I think I would have anticipated. Yeah, for sure. Like Jeremy offered to meet my parents three weeks into seeing each other, not even boyfriend and girlfriend at this point. Mostly because I knew I'd be completely comfortable with that and that she would be the one that was awkward. Honestly, I was the most uncomfortable in the room.

Right. I was going to say, how do you bring up that conversation? I'm very happy to meet your parents if you want me to. This guy means business. I support it. There's no ifs ands or but. Coming from a relationship like beforehand that had so many levels of commitment issues, this almost freaked me out because it was like so opposite on like the commitment

scale that I was like, oh my God, this is like so much commitment that I don't know what to do with it. Lauren, how much did, how much did Moose's opinion factor into you and Jeremy dating? um luckily my dog i don't think has ever met someone that he doesn't like but in um and there goes the level of this so sorry so sorry um right moose hates everyone except for jeremy and that was his and that was the green light for the relationship and that's the truth and that's that's the truth and i swear by it Jeremy all right it's kind of interesting uh the position that you're in not

only dating Lauren, but now you guys have a podcast together. You have a full-time job. I did the NFL and the content creator thing simultaneously. And it felt like there was some tension there of like, well, A, there's a certain number of people who don't know that you even do whatever outside of your job. But then, right. Right. But then there are some people who are very ignorant to the other one. Okay. That's how you keep it. Is that how you do it? I think to a degree, and it's interesting because I think these are the last years where professional athletes are not, well, I think it's already gone. I think we're already seeing the athletes whose brands can run faster, farther, spread way more impact through what they do with their content than what they do in the field. And obviously vice versa, don't get me wrong.

But I think that as the internet continues to kind of fuel. this place where who you are is who you are on and off the field, just like I am in my 9 to 5. To me, it's a bigger conversation that if used the right way, I think it's really powerful, but there's always some, wait, what do you do? What's your show about? Yeah, there's always that.

And you're like, it's butt plug Thursday, obviously. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't sure if you walked into the office and like your bros were like, hey man, listen to that episode about accidental nudes and unsolicited dickpicks and love it. It is fun, though. I, you know, I enjoy talking to people different than I, and I'm not sure how many people I've interacted with who have sent nudies out. And I'm curious, like, what is that life life? I think more than you've, more than you think. I don't know how many people I've interacted

with who have admitted it and owned up to it. There it is. There it is. Every person we have on our show from now on, we're going to be like, okay, first question, have you sent a nude pic? The description of this podcast there, Jeremy, though, is a tasteful nude photo. I'm not sure. Is this like a, like a Michelangelo? I received a tasteful nude in our first couple months of dating. And it was, it was a definition of a tasteful nude. It was a post shower, Jeremy, with a vase of flowers in front of the areas that needed to be covered.

Okay. All right. You could paint that picture. however you'd like. Well, paint it in, I used to do a little more sit-ups, and I was more like a 210 as opposed to whatever I am now. So you paint that picture.

A sloppy 210. That's where we're at. That is not. That is you can't say stuff like that. Just so I feel better or maybe worse. I'm not sure which is weird or asking a dude about the nudes or about the girl about the nudes, but I know that you've,

you accidentally had some nudes sent out on Snapchat, Lauren? Um Which is weird by the way No it was an accidental nude It was You took the picture and sent it There's only so much accident there There was an accidental post

To the public You sent it to your public EXXXXXXXXXXX So I did I did that by accident Is there any way to like reel that back in Or was that just out there for The internet is forever The internet's forever

So I got tagged in the photo By one account A couple times And we keep talking about it I know, it's going to resurface it's going to resurface 100% the more we talk about it. And like, I hate that for me. But you know what, though?

I was following like the rules of the nude, I feel like, and my face wasn't in it. Walk us through the rules of the nude. Yeah, I'm so curious about this, Lauren, please. I feel like, I feel like the number one rule is like no visible, like tattoos or identifiable markings. Interesting. And at that point, I only had...

She reverse engineers the way that she would stalk. Yes. So she's like, oh, that's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. I'm like, oh, I know that person has a birthmark here and a small tattoo here and wears rings that look like this. And she wears gold, not silver. So I know. Wow.

See? See? Yeah, no 100%. I would do the same exact thing, though. Honestly, give a girl a little bit of information. She can find anything on the internet. There was a picture ones of... some like it was this not a scandal it was like the controversy drama here in

Nashville where like someone posted a picture of just their like forearm and they were wearing bracelets and we're all of Nashville was like we know who that is we know who that is based off of the bracelets why this did bring up an interesting question of which is weirder for me to ask about Jeremy's nude or Lauren's nude why did you bring that back up it's just weird period it's so it's weird equally yeah You know what? I think in this scenario, they're equally both fine. Okay.

I accept. What I will say is it's not like we have a podcast. We sit around and the point of those episodes are not to go, it's okay, to send, do it whatever you'd like. The point is for us and what we are finding interesting is that social media is a thing. Everyone has a cell phone in their hand. And if you have an iPhone, you have the ability to either make these types of decisions and mistakes. And to a degree, it's not to say that we want to go around and slap, you know,

and say wrong, wrong, wrong, we almost, to a degree we want to talk about things and normalize the fact that, like, you have to be able to be safe when you're making your mistakes, if that makes sense, and padding the amount of risk that you're willing to pat in. Right. I think, like, the number one thing that we talked about on that episode, too, with, like, the unsolicited dick picks and accidental nudes was just that, like, when you make the effort to take the photo and you send it to someone, you are officially out of control of that content. And so, you know, learn from our mistakes.

we're paving the way for others who will hopefully make better decisions than we did. Except for the tasteful nude. The tasteful nude with the vase. I just wish you had saved it. I'm never going to have those abs again. I think if I looked deep enough in my eye cloud, I might be able to find it. I hope so. Yeah.

Sorry. I love that you guys talk about those. Way to find the silver lining to the nudity. Yes. All right. I'm curious. Well, you guys speak pretty openly. So, Jeremy, from your side, you mentioned,

you were engaged, how, how has that affected your approach to, I mean, you guys been dating two years. I'm not, it's none of my business. I'm not asking about that, but how has that affected this current relationship? You know what I'm saying? I think it's impacted. I don't think that this relationship could be as much of a success because of what I needed to learn in the last one, um, without everything that happened. And I think to a degree, it's, one of those things where maybe other people can learn by watching other people's experiences, mistakes, things they've achieved, for whatever reason, you've got to hit me over the head with it three times. And I think that it's kind of put everything into this perspective of

even if you love someone and then the right person or they're the right person at that time or whatever, you're young, you're changing. There's so many things that are going on, especially when you live in L.A. and people have opinions and perspectives on your relationship, true or false, right? It doesn't matter. We all have egos and we're all sensitive people. And although I don't really care when someone criticizes me from Kansas about something that doesn't even true, I see it. It has to be logged in my brain.

So to a degree, I learned a lot about what I didn't, didn't want through my last experience that I think I've packaged in a way that is at least healthier for me, which ended up being a good match for her so far. okay you two hard deep vague question could could possibly dig up some bones here i apologize uh oh what's the hardest conversation or the hardest argument you guys have had to work through um um i wish there was something like deep and juicy that's at the front of my mind that I'm like, this is definitely it. But I genuinely, to give you an example, Anderanize is my dog. Legitimately. No, I know.

It sounds ridiculous. But like we've, that's probably the cause of our number one argument is the fact that like Sean treat, I love dogs, but Sean treats our dog like it's a human. And so there's like, oh, you want, you want to have the dog sleep outside because it just got skunked. Absolutely not. It's going to sleep on our bed. And I'm like, freaking no. yeah and it actually results in some big arguments yeah so that's like our big contention point

fortunately we have a I mean she's she definitely treats moose more like a human than I do but I will say we're pretty much on the same page as far as the most part I also like I white moose's bum every single day after he goes to the bathroom you're lying no because Jeremy screams if there's something I'm sorry what was that it's tail back and it's it's this motion I have never heard of this. If you go on to my Instagram and go to whatever birthday post I made for,

keeps swipe up to the right, the last one. It's me wiping moose's bum. Well, because Jeremy doesn't like when moose is on our bed or on the couch with a dirty bum. And so it's just a compromise that I have taken upon myself, that I

will take care of the hygiene of the bum. It's not that I dislike the fact that the butt's dirty. It's the fact that he cleans the butt on our white cloud couch. It's the scoot You know like the dog bum scoot I hate the scoot

I hate the scoot I hate the scoot To answer I think The best answer I could think of right now If your question in terms of what It kind of gets us going I am To my own demise

Oh I can't wait for this I enjoy playing devil's advocate Oh I do I just do And It makes me crazy Call it my Midwest roots

I like to see It's not even, and let me be clear, it's not because I'm like some ever-flowing optimist. It's like, no, they probably mean, it's not. But what I will say is that I, when someone has a completely different opinion, politics, religion, socioeconomic, it doesn't matter. To me, I try and get into their head and their perspective and go, okay, they have this, what I think is ridiculous thought on this. Why? And I'll try and present that. And who, that just has never gone well.

But do you do it in like a vicious way? No. No, no, it's not vicious. But Jeremy and his mother could talk politics. Last Christmas, they probably had a four-hour, one session sit down. So I went for a nap. I took a bath. I walked the dog.

You know, I just exit. Like, I love when everyone's an agreement, I love peaceful compromise, and I'm just not, I don't have the energy to debate over things that I know we agree on to begin with. So when he wants to take on someone else's opinion, and just for the sake of the conversation, I'm like, I need to go do something else. I love playing devil's advocate too. Yeah, he does a lot.

Sometimes he'll be arguing with me and he's like, I'll just stop him and be like, what are we arguing about? Do you actually think this? He was, oh, no, no, I just wanted to have the conversation. Like, we just wasted an hour. No, but I honestly think that it's important to play devil's advocate. Otherwise, like, otherwise you're just talking at each other

and it's like there's no attempt at an argument because we're budding heads about something that we started out agreeing on. I'm like, what is happening? How did we get here? How did we get here? Okay, most important question. What?

I just enjoy it. I don't know. It'll never go in my favor, but it's something in me that just, I don't think I'm ever going to be able to learn my way out of that one. It beats me, man. You guys are interesting. But most important question.

Maybe like next time that you have, the it's to do that you and Andrew can connect and yeah and do and find that enjoyment with each other yeah we'll go take a back imagine two devil's advocates together just like a never ending conversation we actually don't know what each other thinks about it because we're just throwing out hypothetically anyway just pick aside just pick aside so jeremy hard hardest question will be asked today oh no what do you love the most about Lauren Tell me all the things. Don't hold back.

Lauren. Is it my cooking? Well, that's high up there. It's not. No, Lauren has, it sounds too simple, but I'll try to explain to it. Lauren cares deeply about her circle, right? Whether that's her family,

when that's her close friends, whether that's her dog or whatever, she will very much put reason aside into her own demise as long as she's taking care of whatever it is that's close to her. She has a lot of, I mean, she will get herself physically sick just thinking about the thought of something happening to someone or something that she loves. And it's moving as someone who's a little bit more like a, yeah, well, life happens. And I think just her level of, of passion and connection with whatever she feels strongly about is, is probably one of my favorite attributes. And Lauren, what do you love the most about Jeremy?

Is it my cooking? Is it? It's your cooking, babe. It's your cooking. Um, um, favorite thing i feel like i have like lots of like there's like a list of things i'm trying to like what jeremy's favorite thing to do before we go to sleep at night tell me why you love me

what do you love me what do you think about me oh it's cute actually you know what it's cute the first four times and then on year two every night you're like oh my gosh nothing like a couple words of affirmation to put me to sleep every night before john and i go to bed we always like like kiss good night and I roll over and I just scream out as loud as I can. Okay, slip a tie. You slip a die. And then the baby goes, she does not like it.

She does not like it. Weird. You know what? I feel like if you just keep doing it, it'll become endearing. Oh my God. I think to answer your question, it is, it's in the way that. he loves. I think that we have very similar love languages.

And I feel like in the past, I've one of the biggest things in other relationships that I've always felt underappreciated. And Jeremy does such an amazing and like high effort job of going out of his way to show that he loves me and appreciates the things that I do in the ways that he knows that I need to hear it or feel it or something.

see it or you know whatever the um the path of delivery is and i think also and again this can sometimes also be his demise but our communication is is so impressive the way that we're able to work through things in a mature and rational way is something that i've never had in other relationships and like communication is the base of literally everything like the good and the in relationships and having a partner that has such strong communication skills is just like so life-changing. Wow. Kudos, Jeremy. I'll take that. Hey, I had fun today. I don't know. Did you have fun? I did. I'm not going to ask in case it to know, but if you want to find out more about Lauren and Jeremy will link their information down below, including Jeremy's weak sauce, Instagram.

also and their hinge and their riah and their tinder and the bumble uh Lauren season two of Craftopia that she hosts is uh I can't think currently being filmed but you can watch season one on HBO and check out their wild till nine podcast we'll link that to thank you both so much for the time it was really fun and uh thank you guys it's so much fun yeah you guys are awesome.