Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 47 A Look Back

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

Today in episode 47 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we recap our favorite moments from our first year of this podcast! We've had so many great conversations this year and have learned so much. We couldn't have done it without our amazing guests who were willing to open up and get real about relationships with us. We talk about parenting, how everyone fights for their partner differently, and the ways that we have became closer. We were honored to be joined by Andy Roddick + Brooklyn Decker, Glennon Doyle + Abby Wambach, PK Subban + Lindsey Vonn, Kaitlin Bristowe + Jason Tartick, Madilyn Bailey + Jimmy Benrud, Sadie Robertson + Christian Huff, Arielle Vandenburg + Matt Chutshall, Ellie + Jared Mecham, Jeremy + Adie Camp, Jana Kramer + Mike Caussin, Matthew + Emily West, Travis + LynZ Pastrana, Luke Combs + Nicole Hocking, Tim + Demi Tebow, Rachel + Harold Earls, Jeremy + Audrey Roloff, Drew + Ellie Holcomb, LaurDIY + Jeremy Lewis, Mallory Ervin + Kyle Dimeola, Jonathan + Monica Pokluda, Doug + Jamie Otis, Raelynn + Josh Davis , Lauren + Arie Luyendyk , Jessica Graf + Cody Nickson, Carly Waddell + Evan Bass, Cedric + Charlotte Thompson, and Steve and Linda Znacho. If you haven’t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format – we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail]. And don't forget to follow along with us on IG! ▶ https://www.instagram.com/couplethingspod/?hl=en ––– We’re supported by the following companies we love! Make sure to check them out using our links below. BEV ▶ We’ve worked out an exclusive deal for the COUPLE THINGS podcast listeners. Receive 20% off your first purchase. PLUS FREE SHIPPING on all orders. I suggest trying their BEST SELLING “Ladies Night” variety pack so you can check out all of their delicious varietals. Go to DRINKBEV.com/EASTFAM or use code EASTFAM at checkout to claim this deal. Best Fiends ▶ You can download Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is brought to you by Defender. With a towing capacity of 3,500 kilograms and a waiting depth of 900 millimeters, the Defender 110 pushes what's possible. Learn more at landrover.ca. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Couple Things with Sean and Andrew. a podcast all about couples and the things they go through it has been a year that's right today's episode we're kind of just recapping the past 12 months really 13 months I guess we launched this last

November this show and boy has have been a journey it has I mean let's start with November because you launched this without me knowing about a week after I had drew yeah yeah that was hectic times would not have done that the same way if I had an option yeah um neither would I yeah speaking of which i do have to say if i sound a little funky drew has given me her little cold so yeah drew is 14 months old now uh she was one month old when we started the show and we've learned a lot as parents the reason we wanted to start this show a couple things was to really kind of just share how we go through marriage and parenting but then also have a good excuse to reach out to other people to hear how they do marriage and parenting um whether they're

dating, engaged, or have been married for 20 years. And a big thing that I kept falling back on was we kept hearing all of these stories in the news about which the news is very, you know, whatever, but they have opinions of their own. But we

kept hearing all these stories of oh, so-and-so is getting a divorce and they didn't work out and this guy was caught doing this and this girl did that. And it just, it frustrated me so much because within our society, people say, if you don't follow the book, you aren't going to succeed in a

relationship. And I think the past 14 months have been a really cool example of every single person does it differently and has figured it out and has gone through really, really hard things and still had beautiful relationships. Yeah. And I think that's a really cool thing. On a personal note, this show for us, I think has been really good. challenging but I think in the long term worth it from a time and workload since I feel like it really made us realize that we need to be diligent with scheduling and planning and it challenged us in that sense from a personal relationship sense it brought up a lot of dirty laundry that we figured out we needed to air out and work through it was really cool to hear a lot of people's

stories because they would bring something up and we'd look at each other like oh we're going to talk about that later we're going to talk about that and it was good it was kind of like marital therapy yeah marital counseling i think uh we realized as creators or or producers whatever you call it hosts of this show you know sean and i start off on youtube for those that didn't know we have a youtube channel called the east family and uh we kind of just documented our life and we thought this would be a similar way, but we did want to do interviews. And so I think it was probably around the fourth or fifth interview where we were kind of encroaching on trying to give advice through our show because we do want this to be an uplifting and encouraging show. And so it's like, you know, people are

listening to this to get relationship advice. But then at some point where we realized that we're not professionals, we're not marital counselors. So our goal here with this show is to really just, as Sean said, kind of give a peek behind the curtain and reveal that everybody has struggles they look they might look different they might you know have a different face to them but at the end of the day we all are going through more or less somewhat similar things or there is at least someone else going through a similar thing that we are and so that I think has been a good thing for us to realize is to just that's our mission is to create this content that encourages and uplifts families, not necessarily through advice, but through stories.

So let's look back on the past 14 months. We have had the pleasure of being able to interview a wide range of people, wide range of backgrounds and experiences, everyone from people who we grew up with to celebrities. We thought it would be fun to take a look back at some of these interviews and pick out some of our favorite moments from them and kind of give a little year in review. That's right. So we've heard from Luke. and Nicole Combs, and they told their engagement story for the first time ever.

Which was amazing. Yeah. Oh, I got the story if you want to hear it. Yes, please. I've never fully told this story, by the way. You ever told this full story? Really? Hey, listen, no pressure.

Okay, I'll tell you. Yeah, I want to hear it. Actually, the day. It's not cute. But it's not like, it was supposed to be that, but it wasn't. And the cats do not travel well. On the way of this house, her cat peed in the crate. And she loves her cat more than anything in the world.

A cat that's got in college named Buck. He always sits on her lap on the couch. And so I had had the ring and I was going to put it on the cat's collar, was the idea. Well, she couldn't get him out of the crate because he feed all over himself. So this is getting a, it's a very heated moment because we're in the middle of He's getting mad at me. I'm getting mad at him. Oh, my gosh.

You know, she doesn't know why I'm getting upset. Yeah. So she thinks I'm upset with the cat. Right. Getting mad at me because she's like, don't blame the cat. It's not his fault. We get to the house. And so I realize, you know, the cats are covered in pee.

We're in the shower, closed in the shower. They don't get it all over the house. Stuff's everywhere. where it's almost midnight. Her, by the way, her parents are flying in the next morning, and I've already told them I'm going to ask her today. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh.

So you can't delay it. Do the plan. Because her parents are going to show up. She's picking her parents up, and they're going to be like, congratulations. Right. So I have to ask her at this point. So I pretty much just told her what I was, going to do.

We got to hear from our good friends Chuck and Cassie Wicks, newly married. Their struggles with infertility and how it actually fell on him, which was an interesting dynamic within the marriage. And then to hear that they were successfully pregnant.

Yeah, now they have a child. I know, a little circle. It's been an emotional roller coaster for us trying to conceive. So we have to go the IVF route. And I'll be super honest. It's because of me. Don't have a lot of swimmers. And that was one of the hardest things to hear as a guy is like that you, you may not be able to have children because

you don't have a lot of, you have a very, very low sperm count. And that's a hard pill to swallow. It's one of those things where you almost feel like you're not a man. Like you feel very, you feel very inadequate. They were scared his body would stop producing altogether. So it was that low. They didn't even know if they'd have enough to fertilize eggs. Right.

Maybe God wanted me to meet her because she already had children because I wasn't meant to have children. We've heard from Glenn and Doyle and Abby Wambach all about their backgrounds and how they got to where they are today. They shared some really good insight and we had some deep

theological discussions, I think. heard about their perspective on that. And Leonard and Andrew went at it. That's right. We don't believe that we can change everybody's mind, but what we try to do is educate people. And as it goes in any kind of non-traditional relationship, and what we're saying is a non-white, a non-straight relationship. Like, that's what non-traditional means, you know, anything on the margins.

And I think because we are in a gay marriage, we want to just be out loud and try. show all the things that happen that also happen in every other relationship in the world. Because that for us feels like the great equalizer. And that's like, other than getting on a soapbox saying, yes, we are gay and we are the same. Like, we just show Glennon stealing my food and picking my shakes, leaving the cabinet doors open,

and me scaring her like we're just the same as as anybody out there and um and the only way you can sometimes show that is just to literally let some put somebody in your house uh we also got to hear from lindsay vaughan pk suban which was an awesome interview new best friends um they had a really cool story just uh hearing how they met which was hysterical and then kind of their proposal slash interesting like engagement ring setting it was just

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and vary by race turns and conditions apply learn more at mx.ca slash Y-Amex so I had never done the SBs or that whole kind of athlete kind of amusement park that they do during the SB time where they have like the Nickelodeon SBs like all that stuff we don't we don't need so much warplay just like the right so I got to see it up so they guys understand the context of it so yeah okay anyway I get on the red carpet I'm about to do this interview with Hannah Storm from the SPN you had a cocktail I didn't talktails at the Waldorf story

This down the street, I have one of the talk. You have to. I'm not going to lie. We're at three minutes, P.K. Just say, okay. Hold on, I'm going to wrap it up tight. I'm going to wrap it around. Remember, this is the truthful version.

So I can take a little bit like, I love it. I love it. So get on the red carpet, like literally 30 seconds before I'm about to do my interview. I look up at the screen. You know the SPs, they have the screens on the red carpet of who's coming up next. Right. And it's Lindsey and she's wearing this black dress looks unbelievable. It was incredible.

I saw it. I'm like, wow. Like, Lindsay, Lindsay Vaughn looks awesome. Yep. Then Hannah Storm goes to be like, PK, it's 117 degrees outside. You got this three-piece suit on.

Peket, tell us how you're feeling right now. I'm like, well, Hannah, it's hot out here, but I can tell you something up now. It's not as hot as Lindsay Vaughn looks. And then the Santa Storm came right at me. She's like, Lindsay's a very classy girl. On a story short, Lindsay caught up in it, comes down the,

red carpet like fumes coming out of her head because she's she was dating somebody at the time who happened to be with her so she's coming down the red carpet yeah lindsay unless this is my perspective unless a woman is engaged or married fair game yeah absolutely i don't care if you're walking the red carpet with the boyfriend yeah no i i would agree with you and uh i mean that one wasn't going to work out anyway so it was like shoot you shot shoot it we heard from Matthew and Emily West all about how they met fell in love pretty quickly and the situation and context that led to their marriage. And then also, what does it look like to be a family of a musician, which was a common

theme on this show. We did sit down with a lot of musicians, but I thought they had a really good perspective on it. Our kids aren't really interested in people thinking he's cool. Do you know what I mean? They're way more interested in meeting you guys. Yes. It's so true.

They were so excited. But I mean, even like a teacher will email me. We played Matthew's song during this. And we'll say to Delaney, like, you didn't tell us that they played. And she's like, oh, yeah. It's embarrassing. Do you know what I mean? Like, they don't want.

But it did get to a point where it was like, selfishly I would want them with me on the road all the time. Is that what's best for my daughters? Is that what's best for the family? Not at this time. And that's why we put them in school. But those are some pretty cool moments. We've heard from Tim and Demi Lee Tebow and heard all about what made them fall in love with each other. And we heard.

basically Lifetime's newest movie of how he proposed so if that movie isn't out there yet it needs to be made I was putting in

lies in her head for six I think okay Tulu one part of South Africa spent two days with this family secretly asked

those parents for permission then we got to include the other parts of South Africa with that side of her family secretly asked them for permission celebrated Christmas on Christmas Day, flew back to the States.

We had our family Christmas because we couldn't have it together. So it was January 8th, I think our Christmas was, they have to have their nails done, like out of everything. Nails was like tiny, but it's fine. It's because the pictures of the ring. Nobody even ever looks at finger or toenails,

so I don't get that, but that's a side conversation. No, all women do, okay? You have to have your nails done. They're all promises, why wouldn't it be like the dress or the makeup or something? nail polish I have a brand new Ford F-150

pull into my house and I'm like Dimmy the truck from my dad's here just like you got him a truck I'm like yeah because I feel like she's like catching on

a little bit to maybe something special could happen and so I literally had a truck pull up with a bow on it to say and shows she's like oh in her heart oh by the way I just gave her

a ring that day I'm wearing it. Oh my gosh. And so I had an arch built like a photo arch and then I had a wooden bench that was handcrafted with some special wording. So just meaningful things to us under the bottom of it. I played a song on the way over that was always kind of our song

by a South African artist named Matthew Moe called The Wedding song. It's really sweet. I listened to it before this. I was going to sing it, but I didn't. No. Shot. Yeah, okay. Then I was like, you know, it was a perfect time for me to play the wedding song.

So I hit play on my phone and we're staying there kind of just like swaying back and forth. And Matthew's behind the hay bale. He walks out and picks up where it was on my phone. Wow. Summer's here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well-groom lawn delivered, but you can get a chicken parmesan delivered. A cabana?

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That took a long time. Like, I don't, again, that was not an overnight thing. And for a while, we kind of like broke up and I was like, I'm just going to focus on myself and my own faith, and that time was so critical because we both took that time apart to really focus on ourselves and working on our own hearts so that when we did come back together, we were in a much different place. But forgiveness, that's like a process. It's not a, you just decide in your head. It was a lot of communication about how I was feeling. And said had to be really patient with me too um so you know fortunately i had a partner who is committed to making those

changes for me but i also had to be committed to trying every day to forgive and keep moving too get to a place where we can like where she can look at me you know what i'm saying she couldn't even look at me it was like the most like disheartening thing when you know like somebody you love so much who loves you and when you see how much you hurt them to where they can't look at you because they're in that much pain it was it was really really difficult i'm i'm curious how it is for you to talk about this said you see oh i don't know it is what it is and what i always say is like i make decisions based on the information that had at the time i didn't have somebody teaching me how to treat women how i look at women i didn't all my things came from

music from being in the locker room from being around guys who i didn't necessarily look up to but i thought this was the right way to do it so it wasn't necessarily my fault you You know what I'm saying? Like the action wasn't my fault, but the way that I was taught it, it's not mine. And that's what, you know, we got two girls. If I have a son one day, I'll be able to teach him the right way because I did all the wrong things. And I was able to be with somebody who was able to work through that with me. So I have no shame at all in talking about it.

We talk about it on the channel and everything. Yeah. Storytime, all that good stuff. We then got to talk to Jeremy and Addie Camp. We talked about second marriage and remarrying after. a loss on Jeremy's side? I think people, they try to figure this out.

People have been upset with me, you know, going through this movie because, you know, people like to troll on the internet. Oh, yeah. Really? And like, yeah, exactly. You know, the love of your life, how could you get me married? You know, you see, you get that. I'm like, here's the deal.

God has expanded my heart. You know what I mean? And I don't think people understand that. It's like when you have a child and we have three now, when you first have your first child, and then all of a sudden you realize that, over and have two children, you're going, how am I going to love the second child as much as I love my first child? Like, you kind of like, you know, that exact thought. And what's amazing is your heart just goes, it expands. You know what I mean? And I think that for me, that's kind of

just what happened. My heart just expanded. It wasn't a replacement. It wasn't like all sudden, you know, of course, she's the one that God has chosen for me to walk this life through. And I'm so thankful. It's what a treasure. But God expanded in my heart. And that's, I think, for me, how I dealt with, you know, stepping forward in that is going, okay, Lord, when I felt guilty, saying, no, no, no, when I'm blessed you with something, receive my blessing. And that's what I did. And I'm so thankful I did because she has been the backbone of this and been so supportive, you know, in the midst of me talking about my testimony. I mean, you know, sorry, I'm yapping here. But, you know, she's asked a lot, how do you deal with, you know, your husband

talking about another woman you know of course it is first of why she's not here anymore but and she's like well listen here's the deal i've been so touched by the story and i know it's not about me or not about melissa or about you it's about jesus and i think that's the whole reason why she can stand and you can you can address that even more but yeah yeah i think you know for me first grief changes you know and so the the man that melissa married is different from the man that i married You know, when you go through something, it's like we talk about it's the new normal when you've gone through something so hard and so difficult that changes in a sense who you are. And so I think because of that, Jeremy and my story was so different from his and Melissa's.

You know, theirs was sort of the kind of this beautiful, romantic fairy tale. And I think ours was, it almost felt a little bit more like, okay, this is real, like we're in the gutters together, how we're going to fight our way out of this. you know what I mean and just walk through seasons of healing and and those kind of broken things together but just like Jeremy said I was so deeply touched by their story like literally the the Lord used it so much to change my heart and encourage things in me and I just remember you know it's not like I haven't had difficult days or insecure moments but I just remember thinking who am I to stand in the way of him sharing his testimony because so many people have been touched by it and because I was touched by it.

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What if they demo you instead? Okay, don't be silly. You're smart, you're driven, you're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. So we had a lot of deep, insightful conversations.

We also had plenty of lighthearted, you know, fun conversations. We sat down with Lord DIY and her boyfriend, Jeremy Lewis, and talked about ridiculous things. Here's the deal. I feel like there's a lot of parallels between our stories here. I also reached out to Sean via social media and gave the weakest. I have zero game. Like, my game is like, oh, you know, this guy's game is so bad, it's cute, right? That's game, though.

I would say that's game. No, your game is that you were playing college football headed to the NFL. You don't need game. That's true. Well, speaking of cyber-stalking, Jeremy, a couple things. First of all, your Insta game is weak, for sure. Second of all, I saw via LinkedIn, which I found you on. You're a UK grad, so I don't know how much you know about college football in the first.

But Vanderbilt's not going to win this year. Yeah, no. No, you can't win. Dang, dog. Okay. All right, all right. You said that up yourself. I did.

And then he blasted me. But what hell of a place to get an NBA? I will say that we had each other's locations by the second date. What do you mean by location? Wait, like you shared, you're a constant shared location? You're freaking lying. Is that what you're saying? That's literally what we're saying.

So, so, yeah, so like, I don't know if you guys use find my friends. Yeah. Yeah, so find friends. So Jeremy had accidentally ubered to like the wrong, the wrong intersection that was like near my neighborhood, but not quite. So he shared his location for me to come get him because he was like at the wrong end of the street. And I was like, okay, yeah, like no worries.

And then he never unshared it after that date. And so me being like, well, I guess I'll just keep it. Well, I feel like I sometimes on my first date, actually my first probably three or four days, I'm still on a lot of first dates also. We can feel free to dive into that later on and interrogate right around that one. I feel like in my first few days, I'm still more like on like business sales mode. So I'm just like I'm peeling back layers of the onion here and like asking questions that like, you or me. Me, you. I feel like I was like very much like asking questions that you don't necessarily hear on first dates.

And you're also an open book when asked. You're not a very secretive person, but I feel like I asked questions you weren't used to hearing. So we kind of like dove in pretty quickly. We also had a live discussion where we worked through conflict with Jana Kramer and her husband, Mike, where we kind of fought for our friendship in a similar way that they talk about fighting for a marriage. And so that was a really unique episode too. Don't know if it's appropriate. I feel like it's worth saying.

I feel like we are somewhat at a pivotal moment in our friendship because the relationships, you got to fight for all of them right hey we could so easily you know let this go wash under the bridge and be cordial with Jana and Mike and be fine but we're going to go down to your book launch party and we're

going to give you hugs and apologize in person and do what we can to fight so and you know I feel like because we're older and we have you know other friends and it's like there's no point just having those to me and you just surface like relationships especially when you value them so much so it's just to be able to communicate and express what your feelings are and and then hey what have

what have we done wrong like what can we do better at and you know i pretty much blew your surprise birthday from being you know trying to do funny but get feelings for her and it's like you know and i freaking blew y'all's thing and then art and then you know sean and are both like i'm crying i'm like I get in and talked to you right now, you know, and it's just like, and then I'm like, maybe they just don't like this anymore, babe. Like, now I was like so upset and I was in such deep, like, depression that day. I was like, I lost friends. I made mistakes.

I tried to overexert myself and overextend myself. I made mistakes. I need to own my crap and tell her what happened and ask for her forgiveness and see if I deserve that friendship anymore. And it ruined my day too. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, Andrew, I just lost our friends. I'm so sorry.

So are we all good? We're all good. But for me, it's like we value all so much as people as our dear friends that I'm like, that part of what we talk about too in the book is just having the grace of forgiveness. It's like no friendship is going to be perfect. Someone's going to do something to piss the other call. That's just, that's what close friendships involve. We've had a lot of really fun conversations and met a lot of really interesting people.

and heard interesting dynamics and career paths. We've talked to the roll-offs, the Lion Dykes, the Pekludas. Earls, Otis's, Nixens, Allo Black, and his wife Maya. Matt Cutschall and his fiance, Ariel Vandenberg. The Roddix, which was hysterical. Andy Roddick and his wife, Brooklyn, Decker. Okay, that's another best friend waiting to happen. We've had so many fun episodes with Sadie Robertson and Christian Huff.

Mallory Irvin and Kyle Demiola. Madeline Bailey and her husband Jimmy. Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tardick. It has been such a phenomenal year. We've had so much fun. This is, I mean, so much fun in the light of all the stress that's happened. We hope you have enjoyed it too. We reference a bunch of these episodes.

And if you want to listen to the full episodes of any of the ones we just listed, it's in the archive and you can find it on YouTube, you can find it on Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts. but we are so thankful to be able to be in a position where you know you listen to this show and we're honored we take it as a responsibility it's not something we take lightly and so we hope that shows through and we do hope that this show puts a smile on your face while also uplifting and encouraging you we are really excited to grow this show and to continue interviewing amazing people in relationships and to hear how they're

relationships work. If you take anything away from this show, I hope you take away that love is awesome. That's right. And it's hard. It's supposed to be the world is going to tell you it's supposed to be perfect. It's not. And what makes it fun and cool and perfect is the ups and downs you go through. Believe it or not. So with the heartache comes the fairy tale endings. But it's awesome and cool. And I really hope you listen to all these interviews and learn that every relationship is different. What about this? With the heartache comes a full heart. I do have to say Sean on a personal note. This show was a struggle for us, especially in the first couple months. We were figuring out this whole setup. I wanted to hit you hard. And we've come a long way

production wise too. We had now we have a studio with cameras and lights and and. And, We can't wait to show you the news studio. But I do want to say thank you for your patience. Yeah. But I'm thankful that you bear with me. So I love you. I'm thankful for you. That's all I got to say.

I love you, baby. And I love that no matter what, we know the end day. That's right. Which is awesome. Steve and Linda Zanaka. You're stuck with me forever, sucker. Oh, man. All right.

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