Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 69 Jordan and Cheyna (Williams) Mathews

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

This week on Couple Things, we got to sit down with (in person!) Jordan and Cheyna Williams. Andrew and Jordan are friends, so this was a fun conversation. We talked about navigating the athlete lifestyle and creating a balance within a relationship. Here are some of the other things that we talked out: how andrew and jordan met how jordan and cheyna met the moments that made jordan and cheyna close can guys and girls be just friends? jordan and cheyna’s break from each other jordan’s spiritual journey jordan’s 4 rules when starting a relationship the proposal cheyna’s athletic brand words of advice If you haven’t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. Follow us on Instagram to keep the conversation going at https://www.instagram.com/couplething... And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format – we might just choose yours! Email us at [e-mail]. We're supported by the following companies that we love! Check them out below: CBR ▶ Hurry to http://www.cordblood.com to learn more about CBR'sFamily Protection Package with ReadyGen today! Follow My Instagram ▶ http://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ http://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Twitter ▶ http://www.twitter.com/ShawnJohnson Snapchat! ▶ @ShawneyJ Follow AndrewsTwitter ▶ http://www.twitter.com/AndrewDEast Follow My Instagram ▶ http://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Like the Facebook page! ▶ http://www.facebook.com/AndrewDEast Snapchat! ▶ @AndrewDEast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Every family member that we have at some point is going to get up and leave. Your partner? That's it. Like, we got, we buy, you buy your tombstone the same day you buy your ring, right? It's like, we're going to the grave together. What is up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things. What's Sean and Andrew? A podcast all about couples.

And the things that they go through. Today's interview, I felt like could have gone on for hours. Because it's Andrews's. like bro of all bros, Jordan Matthews and his wife, Shana Williams-Matthews, who this might be like the most boss couple we've ever interviewed. Yeah. Just because they're probably the most athletic couple I've ever met in my entire life. So a high-level intro is this.

Jordan Matthews was a teammate of mine from Vanderbilt. He ended up getting drafted in the second round to the Philadelphia Eagles. Yes. He married another Vanderbilt student, Shana Williams, now Matthews, who played in the World Cup. Who's also drafted. Yeah, who's playing professional soccer? She was like drafted first. She's insane.

She's insane. Both of them are incredible athletes. They have two kids now. And we did. We kind of relive some old memories. We tried to crop this episode down to make it approachable for everyone to listen to because Jordan and Shana had some really good things to say too. I enjoyed their perspective on things and how they approach their relationship.

They have so much going on in their lives. Jordan is, he's bouncing from team to team to team. He's been on a couple teams the past couple of years. And as we know, that can affect your lifestyle, especially as you're growing a family. And Shana is pursuing her professional career. They're actually right now in Louisville. They're also starting a sportswear company called Seed and Sweat,

which is an amazing group of tights and athletic wear. Maternity. Yes. But done right. So you can actually be active and it work. I think one of my favorite things about this interview is you see, how each person in this relationship

respectively is going at it 110% for their dreams and their ambitions and their goals and they're succeeding and they're gaining the world's attention but yet they've figured out how to do that alongside each other

in such a respectful way to not compromise trust and to still support one another and love one another and show each other how excited they are. It was just, it was really cool to hear how they're going about doing this in such a boss way. Yeah, it was cool to see how they're both very ambitious and both pursuing those ambitions, but keeping each other as the first priority.

So if you want to find out more about what Jordan and Shane are up to, we'll link their information down below. We used to call Jordan J-MAT three times because that was his social media handles, which I still think it is. But we'll, we'll, we'll link it. down below. And also, before we jump into it, we wanted to start a new section in the intro which is the comment of the week. So last week we did the episode on communication where we shared 10 lessons that we've learned in communicating. And it seems like a lot of people enjoyed that. And we talked a lot about expectations of time. Yes. Which is funny because we've had some run-ins with time in the past couple days. That's true. And actually the comment of the week this week is from

Anna, who said one thing that works for my spouse and I is to share our locations with each other if we have iPhones, which I feel like there's a mixed bag on that. If people are comfortable doing that or not, I feel like I skew on not being a fan of that. Do you? I think we do share each other's location, but we never look at it. I'm a, I'm a fan of it not to like snoop on you, but to not be the wife that's like asking you every five minutes, where are you? I think it would be really easy to use at the end of the day when it's like, oh, I wonder if he's on its way home. Yeah.

And instead of calling you or bothering you, you'd be like, check where it is. But yeah, I think that's, it's a blurred line. That's hard. Yeah. I think that's on a case-by-case basis. Let us know where you stand on that issue. And also, we will be doing comment of the week in every intro. We'll try to, I should say.

Yeah. So leave us some comments to talk about. Yeah. And while you're at it, subscribe to the show and give it a rating on whatever platform we're listening on. We love hearing your feedback. We love doing this show for you. So we'd love to continue. And you doing that helps us do that. So let's go ahead and jump into this one with Jordan and Shana Matthews.

I got to say, I don't know if I've ever been more excited. I don't know if I've ever been more excited or maybe even nervous for an interview, Jordan, because... Really? Reading, playing, learning. Stellist lenses do more than just correct. your child's vision, they slow down the progression of myopia. So your child can continue to discover all the world has to offer through their own eyes. Light the path to a brighter future with stellar lenses for myopia control. Learn more at slur.com. And ask your family eye care

professional for SLOR Stellist lenses at your child's next visit. Hey, I feel like we're just going to blast each other the whole. We've been through some phases together, bro. We have been. It's crazy to think back on. I remember, I remember, when you first was like, yo, like, yeah, yeah. Wait, are you sure she likes you? No, I actually, I want to hear this. No, we don't need to hear it. But once again, you want to hear it.

I want to hear it. You want to hear this. But once again, I find myself in a room where I am the worst athlete here. We have Olympian, first round pick in the soccer draft, second round pick in the NFL draft. And then freaking me. Don't forget the last person to commit to Vanderbilt was 2014. That's right.

I was next to last. So we were like there together. It was me and Carrie, I think. The last three. I was just brushing up in your story. So let's give people the background on how we know each other. And then we'll expand into our significant others. Can I say you have something in your teeth first?

Okay. Well, that's a tough start. I don't mind. Keep it going. You got it. How do we know each other? Okay, so honestly, we can just do this, just me and you, bro. Yeah.

I'm not like that's what's going to happen. But yeah, you know, so me and, obviously, both of us, we were, what, the last, like, two or three guys signed to that class with Bobby Johnson, his last staff at Vanderbilt. And it was crazy because, you know, I thought that my story was kind of unique because I didn't have an offer, like, all throughout high school. So I literally got to my last game in high school was, like, around Thanksgiving. And I had none on the table. No Jackson State, Alabama A&M, DeVry University online, like nothing. Nothing, bro.

I had nothing. And I, bro, no, I was serious. East, East, East. Look at Shade and all the eyes already. It was bad, bro. Like, I literally ran to an Alabama and A&M coach at Publix, and I had my highlight film in the car. I went in to my car, grabbed it and gave to him.

Like, I was, like, trying to put out mixtap. Yeah. Like, bro, like, check out my work. I didn't hear this story. He never, he did not call me back. Some point I'm just like, okay, this isn't going to work out. Well, I went to a Vanderbilt camp that summer did well in it. They kept my number.

Bradley Robey, I think he plays for the Texans now. Yeah. He was commenced at that class. He decommits, and then I end up getting that scholarship, and that's my only one I have at home, right? And so I'm thinking, okay, I'm the last one. There's nobody's got a situation like me, right? Then we had the tragedy happen, right?

With Ray John Bennett. He passed away, and so he was, and he got killed, you know, obviously the rest of a piece of Ray John. protecting his mom, you know, from, I think, one of her exes. It was a bad situation at home. I hope I don't butcher that story. But then there was a scholarship open.

Yeah. I think that was you, right? Yeah. You got that scholarship. So because of a tragedy of somebody else's family, you know what I'm saying? You end up coming in and we're just like, and you was like on signing day or saying it was super. I don't know. It was past, it was past signing day.

It was two months after. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. Like, I think we'd already had our lockers. And I had another guy coming. And so it was just, man, it was crazy because obviously getting to know you was nothing short of a blessing. And I just remember you and Kerry totally changed my outlook on just how people can.

Because people can box themselves in, right? Like Kerry can be like, okay, I'm a kicker. It's all I do is kick. But Carrie used to get after it. He's crazy. And I remember that you always trying to pigeonhole you. He's been like, oh, you're a longstack. Remember I always like, no, forget that, bro.

I love that I wasn't convincing you more than anything I was just continuing to encourage you because you knew that you were more than that too you knew you were like a linebacker so I was just fun that back and forth we always had well it's fun to have this conversation a hey I knew Jordan was going to tell that story by hi who's underdog always Jordan three times is what your Twitter handle was I remember first of all this guy didn't have a smartphone but he decided to create a Twitter handle yeah Kenny Kenny Ladler helped me make it. That should explain the J-MAT J-Met. And part of that was the three stars, right, that you came at. It was two stars. Oh, my, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. The J-Mat, J-Mat, J-Mat came because...

Remember how Coach Franklin used to not let us go out, right? So you never let us go out. Training is on. Training is on. Training is on. We cannot go out. And, okay, maybe you weren't invited to this session because we knew you didn't have no bars.

But we ended up making a mixtape. We did. We made a training on the mix tape. we love you but we didn't give you that invite so good I'm not going to tell you the mixtape is still out there I'm not going to tell anybody where to find it I almost want to I regret the

I'll know where to find it I'm going to link it down below because you didn't invite me don't go find that I'll never be able to run for office or anything because it's embarrassing but basically there was that old song and it was like racks on racks and I was like okay I just made a song Jay Matt and I crushed it

obviously And so And so then You gotta know If y'all know Kenny Ladler If nobody You know if I've heard

Like Kenny's obviously One of our favorite team It's super funny But Kenny's always Talk real slow It was intelligent You talk real slow And so he was something

You make my Twitter He said Hey bro You got to put that J-Matt three times You know I'm like And I'm just like, yeah, let's do it.

And so it's been that way for years. Like, I know people that I play with the NFL that'd be like, what don't J-Mad, J-Mad, J-Mad, J-M, and they have no idea the origin, but it's stuck. Three times, man. We'll get to the girls here in a second. I'm just loving this. I do have to say the one thing that makes me so proud when I look back on our class

at Vanderbilt is we were all that type of, like, I feel like coming out of high school, I'm going to say this, don't be offended. Like, marginally talented. You know we had the skill but maybe not the exposure right and then but we what we wanted it more than anybody else right you had this you know let me just run back to my car and first while you still had the CD the CD highlight tape that you gave to the coach oh man I think he I think he's in the trash I remember I put together an email list of every special teams coach in D1 and I sent him an email and am I the link to my highlight tape.

And I was like, I'm not getting recruited at all. I'm going to send 150 emails and like make sure this happens. And it freaking, it panned out. So that's what I love about the class. The one thing I respect about you, the leadership that you had, the vision I feel like and the energy from day one, it was crazy, two star J-MAT, but you were the leader of the class and making it happen for, I think, setting the tone of like, what does it look like to have a winning culture at a place that that didn't.

exist at it didn't exist that man and you freaking led that charge and then i feel like our class was a big part of that but last story that i'll tell about jama and then and then i want to hear about how you two met because i remember this too this power clean story the power clean story i have to i have to it's my favorite story it changed my life so so first of all the way i remember this and everybody knows like you're good my bet knows about this uh like i did not know you were going to say that. I just had a film like, he didn't bring the car swing story. So the way I remember it,

J-Matt was not even like a meathead. He didn't really like the weight room that much. I did not. I was the guy. Like, that's where I The long snapper. It was the only time that I could have like long snares. Oh, you say that she was going to take jabs at you. Is that the first one? It's coming. More than a long snap.

You know how it was more than an athlete hoodies? Yes. We're getting more than a long snapper. We're going to sell that junk. Patting that while we're on here because Am I'm trying to steal it. Okay, it's patented. It's done. It's trademark.

So, senior year, is your last year there? We had, first of all, our weight coach made us do some ridiculous things. It would be like, you have 30 seconds to get as many 225 deadlifts as you can. Or Power Clean 225. You remember all that stuff. But we were just doing Power Clean Max. And J-Matt was always in the corner, kind of quiet, didn't really, like, cause a scene. For four years, it was like this until this day.

And all of a sudden, and also, he was a scrony. little thing. He's a freaking rip now. I can't believe this. Yeah. Andrew did come home after bringing our daughter to the workout place and he's like, have you seen J. Matt? Huge. I can't believe it.

Anyway, so Power Clean Day all of a sudden in the corner I hear some weights clanging around. I'm like, wow, well, usually J-Mat is not throwing around weights that make noise. No, no, at all. It's very quiet. So I see him do 225 power clean. I was like, I'm pretty sure that's his max ever. Then he's like, hey, put on the Kanye. Put on the yay.

We're going for it today. So he turns on power, I think it was. Yeah. 225, crushed it. You put on 245, crushed it. Put on 265, crushed it. You put on 275. You were like 30% more weight than you've ever done.

And just jamming to Kanye. And you threw it up. And it was like, oh my gosh, my God. Yeah, we brought the bar. Yeah. I think, but at that point, I think it was pretty well known, like, I was a, I was a big, like, Kanye fan. This dude went to a Kanye concert, kept, he got the microphone, first of all, he got the microphone. Shana can insert herself in this part.

That day, it was the Max Clean day. I'm like, hey, put the yay on, throw this weight, because I'm going to hear from Andrew Ease, no more about my weight, you know what I mean? So that was it. Well, you've always been so interesting to me because you've balanced, like, this fierce intensity with, with, like, a, wild sense of humor, like in the best way. And I feel like Shane has the same thing. First of all, she keeps you in line. But using Kanye as a pivot to your relationship.

There's a song that Ye put out on his bipolar album called Wouldn't Leave. Sean makes fun of me all the time for saying this. But I actually think it's the most romantic song. I believe it. About, I actually, maybe it's the most accurate to marriage that I've ever heard. It's all about the concept of the dude says some crazy stuff. And Kim, this was, you know. And vice versa.

Yeah. Kim was always right there. And we did Family Feud the same season that Kim and Kanye did. I'll never forget the way that they look at each other. I was like, that's actually love. Yeah. There's like love there. Anyway, using that and Kanye is a pivot.

Tell us about how you met. Go ahead. I'll let you go ahead and meet it. Well, apparently he and his teammates already had a joke that he thought, I don't know what name you used to call me. Because I didn't, I never. Huh? Nama Campbell. I didn't know this.

I mean, I mean, just famous, you know, model. Casual. Definitely. But, you know, it's just been real. You know, she's more on the chocolate side. And I was like, man, she looked like, they don't know what Camel. You know, because we used to, because you know how Magugan is, like the Hendrix room, when you walk in. It's like a catwalk almost.

Yeah. For, you know, anybody, Andrew, I'm going to, let me just say this. When he walked in, it was like, there's Andrew. Yeah. There's Andrew. Then he had the long hair. And then you had the short hair. Here's the thing about Andrew.

Here's thing about Hendristo. See, the good guys of the world, the Andrew Isis, the Carrie Spears, Casey Hughes. Jordan, there's a walk. All those guys coming in. I remember. I'm talking about where we were sitting. I'm talking about when the girls are walking. There's the, like, the girls walking in this way, right?

And there's a seat right here. so where you're sitting like you don't see the women walking in because and that's where Andrew would sit he just didn't care he would just focus on the Lord and football now I'm like you right guys no I sat on the other side I wanted to know what the talent was coming to the school just and so so since Shana walks in and she's just like I mean she's not now I know the Lord said he want to flood the earth twice but her pants to kind of short that day. I'm like,

she had some Nike, I've had problems with athletic wear. I don't know. I remember those pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do. And so, you think it's raining right now.

And so she was flooding, right? And she had some Nike shocks. I remember like we yesterday, man, some Nike shocks, a band-a-s soccer shirt. And she had this. It's worth noting Nike shocks were like, they were gone.

They were all the way on. Who would have these? Wait, were they in 2000? No, they were gone. They were gone. They were gone. All right.

So she walks in, though, and I'm just like, holy cow. Like, she looks like, I mean, just from the legs to the face. Okay. Hold on. Because I got to know you later. We'll get to when I guess you know you. No, they need to hear this because I was just like, oh, because Shana, not tells Shane's all the time, every guy.

has just be honest a dream girl like they just like so when you see it you just know and I saw shana and I'm like I don't know if this girl is a nice person at all right now I don't care she just had she's looked so beautiful to me and I was like but I was immature so what happens right here when it comes out here is not always the best I was like I told my boy that's that Naomi Campbell right there and so I started that whole thing and like she and I had no idea I had no idea yeah we're calling Naomi Campbell we know her net You didn't even know her name. Anyway, so I guess from that point, he knew who I was, but I didn't know him.

I was like not, I was on my lane, you know, playing soccer. You know, I'm there to do my thing or whatever. I had a teammate that was the same years, you guys, which that's where we got our dog's name from, Kendra Hendrix. Oh, I remember Kendra? Yeah. So her and Jordan were pretty good friends, I would say, because they've been in school together. And I was in the hallway with her.

and Jordan comes down this you know the um what what hall is that is it is there a name for in McGugan you know in the you look at the football locker room it's like that long hallway it's like the the Wall of Fame or something yeah wall of fame yeah so um Kendra and I were walking in from somewhere and then he comes up and he's like what's up Kendra and you know he has to like announced that he knows her I'm like okay that's his friend like cool who's this guy he's so loud. Anyways, he goes, oh, I'm Jordan. He introduces himself to me.

I'm like, I'm Shana or whatever. And he's like, well, nice to see you guys. And she goes, yeah, well, we're hungry. We're about to go get something to eat. And he was like, y'all want to go get something to eat? I could take y'all the chilies. And I'm like, it was on the car. It was on the car.

He's like, yeah, it's all me. I'm like, all right, free food. I don't got to swipe. I'm like, I don't have to use my swipe. I get free food. Kendra, are you busy? All right, cool. So.

No tip. We went, all three of us went to Chili's and little did Kendra know she would have been the third wheel on that. Yeah. He didn't talk to her once. I'm like, I thought they were friends. Like, you know, but he was really just using that opportunity to like talk to me as like a friend. But like at the time, I was just thinking like, okay, he's really friendly.

This kid is crazy, crazy funny. And I was like, okay, we could be, like, friends. Like, I could probably be friends with him, how Kendra was friends with him. And so that's kind of how we met. We just kind of hit it off, became really, really, really good friends. Yeah, I think the, I definitely think to what made us get close to was we had similar interests. We were both, we were both focused enough to where, like, we only got together at the pub. And that's when we meet every Monday at the pub we meet.

And we just, like, hang out and just talk. And the pub is the, it was like the one restaurant in Vanderbilt's, like, building. Yeah. And we weren't dating at the time. So I took that opportunity to always bash wherever she thought she liked at the moment. I never liked anyone but you. Yeah, I know, but, you know, but that's, but we would just have this back and forth. And so I always felt like that was always just very, like, genuine.

It wasn't something like, okay, who's this girl that's overly interested in what I'm doing as a football player. She really just didn't care. And it was authentic. And then, and so we always had that back and forth, too. That was just, like, awesome. Then the music interest.

Yeah. Yeah. No, well, she was a big J. Cole fan. Really big. Really big J. Cole fan. And so she, um, so we always trade music back and forth. And that was some. Drake albums, like, that was like a big one.

We both really, I think the artists we both liked the same at the time was straight. Yeah. And everybody like, Drake but like we like to really dissect Drake like yeah okay did you listen to a tuscan leather like what do he say why do you think that yeah we used to do a lot of and then I would say there were two moments that I think were big for us so one I never gotten really like deep with like a girl at that time with just like how I view like life and everything everybody who knows me

knows I'm very like spiritual and so I don't just like take things as they are I'm like okay that's what it is. And so me and Shana, we were up in her room talking and we were just hanging out and I just told her about my thought about time. I said, you know, it's so weird. I'm like, I'd look forward to something. And then when it gets there, I'm already thinking about the fact that it's already going to end soon. And I just wish I could just stop something for once. I wish I could just get in a moment and I could just stop it, you know. And I mean, I guess I was kind of talking. He met it in a, like, at this point, I was like, I think he really likes me. And I was like, wait, I think he, like, likes me, you know?

He's like, I wish I could just, like, stop time. And I was like, what? Right. Oh, okay. And too, that point is, like, marriage is kind of a way to do that. I mean, it's a sleepover with your best friend every night. You know, if you were truly best friends with that person, like me and saying, like, we can look at it like we're just a married couple trying to grind through it.

Or it's like, if we're best friends, we don't sleep over every night. You want to watch a movie tonight. You want to go out to eat. I mean, we literally, like, our parents can. came in last night and I was like okay I'll call this random restaurant let's go eat and I mean yeah I got dressed up I had like worn clothes and and we just went like you know it's like you're hanging out with your friend we talked about some of everything we had happy conversation we laughed we had sad conversation

we talked about people you know people watching for sure it's the best thing oh yeah and so that was just one of those things where it's like because our kids we have young kids right now, Josiah and Lionel. We love them to death. But, you know, the Bible says like, you know, your kids are like arrows, right? You have, you aim at a target and you shoot it. It's not a boomerang, right? So every family member that we have at some point is going to get up and leave. Your partner? That's it. Like, we got, we buy, you buy your tombstone the same day you buy your ring, right? It's like, we're going to the grave together. And so I feel like us being able to stop time. Like, I was, as we were talking about that, I was kind of, I was

kind of already putting like that out there, I guess, that I think we're going to figure out how to do this. That was a deep conversation we had. I'd always find a way to ruin it, though. Yeah. Oh. I used to always find a way to run it. Can I tell my Ruby Tuesday's story? No, no, no, no. That's later. That's later.

That's later. I was going to make the joke that like... We were being, like, we were very... But we were also being very, like, you know, we were doing it the right way. I was always like, you know what? If we made a mistake, like, I would not be afraid, be a... say if you had my children like so also i guess was foreshadowing but it took the romantic part out of that conversation you're like i'm like this what is you talking about i would jump but um that

moment was a big one though because i was just like she didn't like think i was weird she was like she really like sat there and she just listened to me as i was trying to like figure this whole thing out i'm still the listener in our relationship i could tell he'll call me he'll call and I sometimes like he doesn't know I put the phone on mute because I've got you know I've got like kids running around I'm like stop Josai but I can multitask he gets on the phone it's like he has something he has to say and I'm like I want him to feel like he can just say it you know so I'm definitely the listener I let him kind of I'm the soundboard for sure yeah I don't know that a guy and a girl can be just friends like you thought oh J match just wants to hang out I also I also I also I also believe that now. You do believe that now? In marriage? Yes, absolutely.

Because he's like, you know, this person, they like wanted a book recommendation or this or that. I'm like, that's, that's, no. Exactly. I'm like, uh-uh. Well, give her your email. Give her my email. Yeah.

We're not, you know, so I also agree. Yeah, I definitely, yeah, for sure, because it's like if you, somebody would not mind. Yes. One of the two. The situation is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, I'm not saying both people like they are actively wanting to, but if there's that, if the girl is like, hey, like, I'm being the guy probably most of the time.

Yeah, cool. Or vice versa. Yeah. You're the worst of that. You used to come home and be like, oh, I got 10 girls' numbers because they were interested in like a book or something. I'm like, oh, okay. I've been there. I've been there.

Two. Two. Two. And, I came and try. Continually. Continuating you there'd be one girl And he'd be like oh she just wants to go get coffee She needs to like run stuff by me

I'm like in there no she doesn't I've been there Have not done that in marriage I have not You're not you're not alone bro You're not I'm glad I'm not alone I'm like surely other people Husband's not out here being nice to people For no reason

I should not have brought this up This is great. No, this is what I think couples things is about, though. No, I'm so serious because I, um, one thing that me and Shane and pride ourselves on is like, bro, we're not by the Tron ever act like we're perfect. That's one thing we're not going to act like. We're not going to act like we don't have disagreements or we have to like grow through things.

Like naturally, bro, I am a very friendly person, very friendly. And I think about a friendly, you got to think from my perspective. I'm like, how friendly was he with me and we're married now with two kids, all right? so that's where my mind goes like you're Samander that's how we started yeah and so you know but you know like in our minds

we're like well as as men and you know men that lift you know we're like we're very I would say we should we feel like we're in control in most situations so we're like yeah well she's not a threat because I know where I stand

you know on this but at the same time you know it's more of you know for our women like this is what shame always talked me about I was like I don't want to leave a stone unturned you know I don't ever want um because I could have a bad month and I don't ever want there to be even be a window for somebody to possibly try and be like hey how are you doing that needs to only be open to her and so I like I get it but those are conversations that I think have to be had in marriage especially when like our trainer Jeremy like Jeremy plop him right there in the group because he's naturally a friendly person he's conversational and I hope this isn't over the top but I think both people understand

like a lot of ladies they like attention so sometimes they might not even want the situation to escalate but if they get attention from a guy who is attractive responsible things like that I'm not saying I'm trying to say Andrew is you're describing yourself

I'm something you're going to I mean, they're not going to say no to it. And it's just like, okay, where does, where does that stop? So, you know, it's definitely a conversation to be had. But I think it's very cool because, I mean, like, naturally, like a guy like, you know, Andrew, like, he's going to have that same mindset of, like, I knew what I was going to find, like, you know, my wife. Like, it was one, there was a courting process that was going to happen. It wasn't, like, whimsical dating.

It's just like, no, like, there's an intention behind while we're talking, what we're doing. So I'm 100% going to enter into, you know, the woman's frame who I'm interested. I'm going to get to know you. I'm going to want you feel safe, all these things. But that switch happens when, like, can a woman also enter into your frame and still feel comfortable, feel comfortable around your friends? You know what I'm saying? Be that person.

Like, I feel like I can go to a shindig or whatever with Shana. And Shanna's just going to be all up on me, like, needing me the whole time to feel comfortable. She can also be like, you know, kick it. I remember when you guys came to the charity game, you know, and that was my first time really getting, it's like, no, you Sean. And before I knew, I was like, all right, all right, Sean. You know what I mean?

Like, it was just so cool. And I wasn't there, I don't think. Yeah. You weren't able to go at that time. But it was just like, you know, I think for a man that's always big. Like you hear those stories of guys talk, talk all the time. I'm like, oh, yeah, my girl. Like, she was like, sit right there when I play video games.

It's like he just sounds so happy. But it's just because sometimes that's a hard thing to find in a partner, you know, and we've definitely found that. Well, we found that, but it didn't all go that way. It did all that way. That was definitely some ups and downs. So he did all this to make me like him to then go and tell me. Okay, but you got to set the question first. And then why I gave the answer to that. I'd rather see, he likes to give the long roundabout way of telling things. And I just get straight to the point. He told me that there was a two at a 10%, no, two out of ten

chance that we would actually end up together. After all this. Yeah. He just, after all this, talk about confused. So specific too, by the way.

I was transferring. I was going to say, yeah. You two are very similar. Okay. He's like foot and mouth syndrome. You guys would have both said things where I'm like, yeah.

It's like, exactly. That's how I ended up at Florida State. We won a national championship my first year there. That was the first one ever, school history which is sick okay

she ain't gonna say it hey hey thanks but it was like a dream come true and I actually had the confidence like going into like the draft

and stuff like that once I was done but Jordan knew rewind that I was transferring and the reasons why I was transferring and he was kind of

along with that process when I was going on different visits to figure out like what was a good fit for me leaving Vanderbilt and he actually was preparing for the draft

So, but we know, we sat there at the pub, the place we went every Monday. And I was like, so now that we know, you know, how we feel about each other, you're about to go into the draft, I'm transferring to Florida State. We're leaving Vanderbilt. So what, like, where do we kind of go from here? And he's like, um, he just sits there. He's like, you know, I'm like, all right. Well, give me a number.

Like, give me a number one to 10, zero to 10. Like, what do you think our chances are? like actually making this work and he goes without without even thinking for two seconds he goes i'd say about a two i was like i think i was eating like buffalo buffalo casidias or something so like i'm like choking off them at this point like like what two out of ten and that's like you know one a confidence killer because i'm like after all this you you're telling me two out of ten he goes yeah i just you know i see myself going to the draft and you know um you You're going to be leaving, and I just don't see myself getting serious with anyone to that point.

I'm going to, you know, all this stuff. Basically, like, yeah, this was fun for now. But now I'm not to leave and be on to bigger and better things, basically is what I'm hearing. I'm just like, wow. So it was, okay. Two out of ten. Andrew, two out of ten. Here's what happened to, you have to remember, like, before the unknown, you always think is going to be better than what you're around right now.

And what's funny is, I'm talking, we have friends right now. That's his always his advice. That are always at this place right now. And they're like 28, 29, 30. Hey, who are you talking to now? And they're back talking to that girl that they were with in high school or college. And so we think, okay, well, I'm not where I need to be to make a decision like this. But what I have been missing out on was the fact that Shane had been walking me through,

she'd been walking with me through some of the biggest pivotal years of my development in my life. And I didn't know how much that was going to matter to me to be with someone. somebody who was with me when I was just unknown. You know, that's why we love each other, bro. You know what I mean? And so that's so, but I just assume like, okay, I'm going to go to the NFL. What are the chances of us still being together after I see that world? Because you think it's going to be all these things.

And then it literally took us two and a half years to end up me being single and me being like, I want. And I got drafted to D.C. So he was in Philly at the time. I got drafted to. So you guys went separate ways. Yes. You guys broke up.

Yes. Dated other people. We never even dated. That's the crazy part. No one, it's so funny because like, his parents, like, it's when I came into the picture, they didn't know me from like at me. They're like, who's this girl? Okay, she went to school with you.

They had no idea. Now your mom knows because I'm like, me and your son were like best friends in school. I went to all the games. I saw. all you guys. I just never, you know, I'm just kind of like he, because it was like an awkward place where like you had a girlfriend from like home for a little bit. And I just think too, I think you were also like, I'm not meeting them until he introduced. Yeah. And he was not pressed. Yeah, I wasn't going to go and pose myself. I'm like his family. And he never made a

point to like introduce me to anyone. So like no one knew about me except like Justin, who is his brother, I actually followed him on like Twitter or something. And so then here's one. everything kind of got a little bit more weird so then shana starts ascending in florida state she also starts dating yeah now once she started dating i'm like okay well i can't talk to you at all she's actually really dating somebody so we didn't we didn't talk at all yeah it didn't talk at all no communication yeah it's probably like my second year in the league and about that time that's really when i started taking my spirituality seriously like i will say this and this in all seriousness. Like, I used to have a ton of respect for you and Carrie because I know people

would always throw like the perfect label on you. I'm like, look, these guys aren't perfect. But I would say, I'm like, they at least. You guys are perfect in our eyes. Yeah, they were. Vanderbilt soccer. They thought, Anthony East was perfect. And I'm, and I'm going to be honest, I've never, on record, I've never seen this in, but here's what I'll say. Here's what I'm saying. Shox is like, oh my God. I just remember how. You can blush because literally, I can't name one.

If anyone, you could go to any athlete in Magugan be like, have you seen Andrew? Yes, he had on the tank. He had on the white tank, gray shorts, gray shorts. Oh, for the record, I never wore tank tops. Shana, don't, don't try to say I was wearing tank tops. The white tank. You had the nipples out on everything.

Like, I think I, I think I may have just seen. Andrew East without a shirt on. May or may not have just seen Andrew East without a shirt on. But, um, but, that was his status for sure. But, but definitely,

you know, I definitely knew, I was like, these guys take their spirituality seriously. And I think that's something that anybody, even somebody who doesn't believe, can respect that. Somebody who actually says,

hey, I don't just, you know, have this book on my shelf. I actually crack it open. I read it. Y'all were very close to Brother B. And so that's what I respected about y'all.

Well, I finally got around some dudes on the Eagles that were so, steady. And I took it all the time. Like my spiritual journey took off when I started seeing the highs and lows of the NFL and I was around a couple of guys that just stayed right here. They'd have bad days, good days, but they never just seemed like

they were just off the rocker. And they were Nick Falls, Trey Burton, Chris Marigose, Zach Gersh, you can throw Carson Winston there. And then there's a bunch of other guys too. I mean, guys had big impacts on me. I mean, I can't leave out guys like, you know, Brandon Graham's positivity.

Malcolm Jenkins, his leadership. what he does in the community those guys inspired a ton but when i got around those believers man they were just like this no matter what happened and so after a while i was like you come into nfl won rings you want championships but i was like i just want this no matter what in life i just want to feel like that and so but what i noticed was all these guys were married they had kids they did not talk about marriage was the end-all be-all and i talk about like it was scary and you know how it is when you're growing up and you're a believer you think you don't get serious about God until you're old and about to die right it's like okay well I'm old now so

of course I've had my fun now here's when I get serious about God I started seeing guys who are serious about the Lord that look just like me they dress just like me they had the same temptations as me and I saw the impact down their life so I'm like that's it like I got to get serious about the same and I had the foundation too like my parents you know they're a strong My mom would play gospel all the time in the house. She's like, we don't have a TV in our bedroom. We don't have the TV playing at all. When Joe Sigis, that age, he's done watching, you know, PBS.

PBS all day. The PBS app. We won't have the TV on, man. I have candles going. I have gospel jazz music playing, man. That's my day. That's our house. And my mom set that tone.

You know, and our dad said the tone of getting us up, getting us in the word, taking us to church. So I'm not acting like I didn't have that foundation. It just had not become real. Once I got around those guys, I started this journey of saying, you know what, I'm going to watch how I live. I'm going to watch how I date. I'm going to start looking for a wife. Like, and I just, these flings anymore. Like, I'm going to be intentional about people who I spend time with.

And so when I started dating, Shane has somebody right now. She's dating someone. I don't know how that situation is going, but I'm just like, hey, like, at this point, honestly, I wasn't thinking about Shane. I'll tell you when Shane popped up again though as I was dating you start to figure out what it matters to me

and I took it all the time if I had four things there was three then became four number one had to be attracted to somebody I'm saying my three okay I'm like

you know you get you're day for a while and you figure out like oh this is what I wanted to make so number one I had to be attracted to the person I was just the facts

and I told you all already that happened the first day I saw Shane number two the person had to have the ability to be a best friend. I had to be able to be able to go from lover to homie. I got to be able to have that mix.

Because, Shana, we'll be driving the car, and I'll start, I mean, you know I can rap. So I'll just start freestyle every once in a while, just to be funny. Like, I have that playful side to me. I can't be, it can't be Romeo Juliet all the time. Sometimes it just has to be like we're kicking it. And me and my wife can kick it, like, for real. And I kick it with her family. She can kick it with mine.

It's just fun. number three the person had to love God more than me and I say that because I can't be your everything no way I'm human like I'm not perfect so to think you're going to get all your needs from an imperfect vessel when you got the like overflowing love of God that you can tap into don't put that burden on me like don't put that weight on me I'll do my best and I'm pulling from the same fountain and then over time I realized I got to be married to an athlete I dated one and the girl was not athletic and I was like, this, I just can't do it. And so that was where the fourth one came in.

So during this process of dating, literally everything started culminating into, oh my gosh, it's Shana. I didn't realize that, though, until Shana had to get tickets to a soccer game. The U.S. women's national team was playing in Philly. Remember, I'm in Philly. She's in D.C. A teammate Zach Ertz. His wife is Julia. so Zach could get the ticket hook up

and so I'm like hey Zach like this friend I have is you know mine and we hadn't talked we hadn't talked in a long time and I was like you know I think I know somebody they can get us some tickets one of my friends came into town and we're like oh we'll drive to Philly

were you dating at the time yes no no you were okay me and you weren't dating you were dating somewhere you were dating you were dating someone yes yes and my that's why I respect you know my wife so much is that she was extremely

respectful in the fact that she was dating someone like we knew we had this connection I think she still knew that but at the same time when she was going to be serious about you know trying to figure out like what yeah yeah and so when she had hit me up I was like oh yeah sure I get you tickets and it wasn't until I saw her and had to like give her the tickets I was like oh my goodness what am I doing she's right here you know But, and I won't get into any of the other stuff. But, like, most, like, some stuff that had transpired to where Shana became single. And I, like I said, I just stayed back.

But that whole time, I could not get that thought out of my head. I was like, she's the one. She's the woman I'm attracted to. She's the woman who is my best friend. She recently got baptized. And she was very serious about just her spirituality and her walk. and she was athletic like she was somebody

I could go I can go hoop with my wife you know what I mean and I beat him sometimes I do beat you on horse come on whoa let's be honest I mean I will I will say this we played home run derby went back to my home and this during the pandemic it's like nobody's outside

and I'm pregnant and she was pregnant we went to a baseball field like little league baseball field basically and we took some tennis balls out there and some baths it's me my dad my wife my brother and we all play

home run derby and my wife is able to step in and play with us like to me that's super cool like I needed that in a partner and so I'm just sitting there like oh my gosh she's everything that I'm thinking about and so when she finally became single I was at this concert with a Krause and I think she sent it on Snapchat because she wanted the message to delete immediately

that was definitely why yeah immediately after she expressed how she fell she said I don't want this out here in the universe too long but she texted me she said I miss you and I was just like whoa it was like the floodgates had open you texted her and you're like will you marry me yeah yeah basically in in a few long texts he basically said that basically you know shana and then shana asked and this is why I love my wife to as you she was one of the first people who was just real with me right I would get to college I used to get so upset with some of my friends. Sorry, this is before I thought girls and guys could be friends.

Yeah. But some of my friends that were girls would be like, okay, I knew they wanted a relationship. They did. But they would just date guys whimsically and I'm like, what do you actually want out of this? And they'd be like, oh, I'm just trying to kick. And I'm like, dude, you know that that's not what you want. Like, your methods are not helping to match your desired outcome. And guys are going to take advantage of this all day.

Shana was up front with what she wanted. And so Shane was like, what does being in a relationship look like? Because I've seen you in college. I've seen you be unfocused. I've seen you not, you know, I've seen football be the main thing more than maybe your relationships with people. Like, what does it look like to really date me? And so then at that point, I was like, here's what it is. I can't remember exactly what I said.

But it was along the lines of like, I'm here for you. I'm not going to do that thing where I'm like, oh, we're not exclusive, so I'm going to text other people right now. Like, no,

like I'm only talking to you. Yeah. I'm going to invest in you. I'm going to figure out, like, if what we have started is what, like, can potentially be forever.

But I said, I'm looking for us to be married. Like, I think you are my wife. And that was at that point, yeah, we had gotten engaged like. Nine months later.

Yeah. yeah wow yeah and then we got married we actually got married eight months before our wedding we had like a we got married in philadelphia just like us too just us and no one knew except like my parents that's awesome i almost much we would have done that it was just cool i want to hear three quick stories sure sure one how did jama propose my bad it was amazing you said you want a quick story well oh no give it give me the deeps here oh it was It was, it was magical. Oh, I thought it was going to be disappointing there for a second.

Oh, no. No, the engagement. I will say this. So we did have a very great engagement. So we're driving down this random road. It's pitch black. I'm like, where are you taking me? Like, what is going on?

Next thing you know, we're in this building. And it doesn't look like a restaurant. So I'm like, I'm starving at this point. Like, what is going on? And I see, like, pictures of helicopters. I'm like, are you going to a helicopter? I'm like, and he goes, yeah, that's what we're doing. And so at this point, I'm thinking, like, I'm thinking engagement.

I'm like, oh, like, he's going to propose to me, like, on a helicopter ride or something. And we end up landing, like, on the Vanderbilt stadium. It was a beautiful ride. The sky was clear. It's my first time. Well, you took a helicopter and landed on the field? Yeah. What?

That's very cool. Yeah. It was sick. We literally, like, got to tour Nashville. I guess he got, like, Coach Franklin's helicopter people to, like, let us do this. And we had talked about before that I, that was something I'd never done and something I, like, wanted to do one day. And he had been on one.

He's like, oh, yeah, we'll do it one day. But so it wasn't, like, off, you know, I guess, super out of pocket that that was something that he chose for a date because we hadn't been on a date in a while. And I'm like, this is the best date ever. you know and I'm like is he going to propose to me but when we landed on the football field I knew just how important it was for him to like separate himself like I was not about proposed to my wife yeah so I was like surely he's not going to I'm like okay this isn't a proposal because we're like landing on a football field I'm like he's not going to do that like

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pub? Because we're back of Vanderbilt. Oh, shoot, man. And so, and we went every Monday. So it was like a no-brainer for us to go and get it. Who drove us? Oh, David Williams. The lay great. No, wow. He drove us, yeah. He picked us up at the stadium. He picked us up. Because he had a black, like, explore like a look like Uber black yeah so he I didn't even know he was in I'm like oh what's up I did arrange my life man everybody yeah he's nice and peace but um so he drove us he's like yeah I'll drop you guys off here he made it super casual like was in on the plan yeah super casual was like yeah I'll drop you guys off it's right around the corner we're like okay good I'm

starving so I'm like all right I know I'm gonna get a cassidia like I don't care where we're going to eat after but I'm starving so we get there and And there's like nobody there. It's like late. I'm like, why? Like, how are we going to get into the pub? He's like, oh, I don't know. Let's just go up there and see.

He had transformed the pub into like a fine dining where we had a, we had a butler that was dressed up. There was white tablecloth. We're at the booth that we always sat at. Flowers. Wow. Just the works, right? But then Buffalo Cazadeas were still on the table.

Buffalo Cazadeas were there because he knew that was like. my go-to and I don't know how I used to when I think about what I used to eat in college I can I eat buffalo chicken cassidias before practice every Monday anyways yeah come on man so he had he had the casadias out and I'm like wow like this is still

to this point I'm like this is the best date ever like he transformed the pub like I never would have expected this rent it out no one was in there it was literally just to us and when we would go out to eat he always wrote like a cute message like in our dessert like had the waiter or somebody like um write something cute like in chocolate and so um i was always looking forward to like what the

plate was going to say like when it comes out and um it's dessert time you know we had great dinner i'm reading the dessert and it says congrats i'm like congrats for what like what's going on and then he pulls me out of the booth and that's when he proposes and he knew i didn't want to be in front of like people when that happened because i'm just like kind of awkward i don't know and um there was just somebody there to take pictures and so when i saw the camera's like wait is this really happening and that was it he proposed then we left and then we went home we went home well it was the way you it was he knows like i'm onto him but i the way he did this like i had no idea so he goes yeah like don't call your family because the first thing i want to do is like call my

my people so we get in the car and he's like no no don't call on me let's just us too just spend this time they all know what's going on he's like that's why they probably weren't answering your calls because they didn't want to ruin anything I'm like oh that's why my sisters and brothers didn't answer so he goes I know you want to change into some more comfortable shoes probably so let's go back to the condo let's dress up I mean get out of these clothes and let's just go let's go hang out I'm like heck yeah like this is a perfect night like all right so we can get back to the condo my entire family's there's decorations it's like congratulations so we had our engagement party the night of the engagement and i'm just like floored at this point like crying like

cannot believe it because like the people i wanted to spend it with the most were there and so i don't know how you were able to pull this off but i was just floored then midnight when we're partying we're like having drinks like playing games like everybody's there it's just like this big celebration and so then um he goes hey let's go out come on we got to go somewhere i'm like where are we going it's midnight like you know everyone's here the party is here we get in the car and um at midnight there was a billboard that he had put up and it said congrats jordan and on west end on west end a billboard right near chile yeah right near chilis and it had a picture of me in like vanderbilt soccer um

an action shot of me with Vanderbilt soccer stuff on and him with like Vanderbilt football stuff on. So it was like super special. I just I was not expecting that. Light work. Like light. And I hadn't. He was like so calm and cool the whole night that like

I maybe thought the only time I thought maybe I was being proposed to was the helicopter. But then when we land on the field I'm like no. Yeah. That's not going to happen. No shade the guys that most of their girls like during football games. But honestly you know my dad you know i got to give i got to mention him because i saw this dude every single christmas valentine's day birthday he would always try and go all out always trying go all out for my mom like i he'd be all right boys what y'all think of this when like dad were three

you know but he really wanted to still this day he wants to get a good gift he wants to do a good job and so i never bought that bull crap about don't go too hard in the beginning because then you're supposed to be able to keep it up. I'm like, that's, that's, that sounds like somebody who's afraid that they can't keep it up. You feel me? And I'm like, I can keep that junk up. Like, I want to challenge it. You know what I'm saying?

And so that was the big thing. Yeah. It's just like, no, like, no, go hard. And then take time, recalibrate and just figure out another way. Because going hard the next time might be just the perfectly written letter. You know, it might not have to be a helicopter. Don't think it's always these things. And so, but Shana deserved that.

You know, she deserved an experience, and that helicopter ride around Nashville was fun. But it was scary, though, too. Oh, yeah. We're kind of close to the ground. And so she couldn't wait. She really couldn't wait to land. I was also starving, too. That's why you said quick.

That's a good story. It was awesome, man. It's awesome. We got a lot of great ones, man. I mean, we were telling you all about the birthday party she threw for me, remember the casino night. So, Shana can do it. man she can put the club well i watched you that's literally it i'm like all right i have some ideas now i'm not i was gonna ask about uh you telling the story about you playing in a world cup game shana

but in the interest of time i would just love to hear your mission behind your athletic wear that you got going on right now so um i decided to come out my own athletic wear for moms and really it came to me I think my first pregnancy with Josiah I muscled up the energy to just kind of wear whatever I was wearing and also I was pregnant in the summer

so I wore a lot of shorts so you know kind of just big tank tops stuff like that the clothes weren't necessarily as important but I just knew I didn't have leggings that fit right I knew I didn't have they didn't come up high enough or for me to have such an athletic build

sometimes they just like they just didn't fit right and so must be tough to have such an athletic bill but I figured I'm like there has to be other women out there that you know experience the same things where it's like you grow out you know like um you still want to work out you still want to feel supported you know so um this time around when I became pregnant again um starting the pandemic so I had a lot of time to think like you know what what could I do to change my comfort right now you know I'm not able to to get into a gym, you know, as often. But what can I do to make sure I'm still putting my,

being my most confident self through this pregnancy? Because with the pandemic, with pregnancy, you know, you're just like, you have insecurities, mood swings, like all these things. I'm like, what's going to make me feel better right now? And so that's where seated sweat was kind of born. And I came out with leggings. I'm actually wearing them now that support underbelly. They're sweat waking.

They actually like, they're very comfortable, but they're not necessarily the most loungy. They're definitely for high performance, athletes, high performance, moms. I mean, you could be doing high performance, just lifting your child. You're two-year-old, and you got a newborn. So I just wanted to create something that would be super comfortable for women in pregnancy. I've got leggings. I've got actually nursing sports bras that I have all.

under here I've got um nursing hoodie nursing hoodie yeah I've got the hoodie's amazing thanks I can't get me getting you one and when's the website um I actually have a website right now I'm getting emails from people it's seated sweat.com um where you can sign up for my email list and all the launch will be this year 2021 and tell them how the name seated sweat came about okay so yeah so um you can kind of see the local here but it looks like maybe a mom carrying a seed or but it also could be a nipple for those who are a little bit more for like nursing or the sweat um so the name came um the baby is the seed and it could be um for pregnancy and postpartum which is like you still have your little baby seed but now they're

here and ready to grow so just wanted to create something that was um the right material for high intensity workouts because we'll have some leggings that are They come up high enough, but the material is like, okay, I want to just lay down now. I can, like, sleep in these. So I wanted it to encourage people to train what's the best material that, what are the materials I like to train in? What are the materials I like to sweatwick? So, like, I actually wore a different set this morning, changing to this one.

But, yeah, just like stuff that you can actually work out and feel confident in it. It's really cool. It's really cool. I have some sets for you coming next month. Thank you. I think you'll really like them. I'm excited. Gosh, it's been a minute since we've actually gotten to interview someone, so I forgot

what the question was. We asked the same question to every single couple. What is the best piece of advice you would give or have been given about relationships? My mom's advice. My mom's advice for sure. Don't take anything personal. No, and it's very important, though, that you be with the person that you're supposed to be with

because then I think some stuff like if you're with a jerk then it's like okay he meant that but me and Shane and both know we're on the same team we want to say you know you're in the same team and my mom told us I was like well give us some advice she said don't take

anything personal and that is the best advice like for real because we have bad days we have days where we say things that we might not mean or I might take longer to do a task she told me to because I'm just annoyed but it's not because I'm you know like

just wanted to be a jerk just something circumstances but she's not just thinking like he doesn't love me anymore he doesn't want to yeah you know contribute just like no he's having a bad day and so that was really good and you would think it was going to be something mushy but it really matters one four agreements actually um in that book that's very popular is don't take any personal so that's yeah definitely shout to mama dang i love that well jordan we've known each other coming up on 11 years now shana i feel like this is a real first conversation You know, I've known about you probably more than. Even our teammates always talked about you.

Now you get to find me yet. But it's fun to think about all the phases that we've been through together and all the phases that we're going to go through. I'm even more excited about. I'm excited for you guys with baby number two. It gets real crazy. Lord help us. And I don't have 2002.

So look. Prayers. Thank you. Patience. Thank you. You guys got it.