Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - 75 The One on the Olympics

Episode Date: July 22, 2021

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things with Sean and Andrew. A podcast all about couples. And the things they go through. Okay, so today might not be specifically about couples, but hopefully by now, we have returned home from the hospital. We have little man on our lap. We have Drew by our side, and we are sitting watching the Olympics.

That's right. we're going to tie it into the couple things mantra by saying that you know what training for elite sports does put a strain not only on the individual but also on relationships around it so we're going to talk about what sean's training schedule was like what her Olympic experience was like and we're going to be asking questions that you all submitted via Instagram and comments to address some lesser known things about the Olympics yes you guys had a lot of burning questions and because Andrew and I were actually supposed to be at the Olympics this year. It's a sore subject.

It is, but we got a little man instead, which is such a blessing. We thought it would be a perfect opportunity to answer all of your burning questions and talk about the Olympics for a little bit. Okay. And before we dive into it, if you haven't subscribed to the show or given a rating, first of all, welcome. Glad to have you here. We usually do talk about couples.

We did interview different couples. Everyone from Phil Donahue and Marlowe Thomas to Matthew Hussey, the dating coach. but today we are talking Olympics and yeah we're glad to have you here I hate to do this but if you're new here if you don't know who we are the reason why we are talking about the Olympics is because Sean is an Olympic gold medalist casual flex yeah casual flex I competed in the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing China as a gymnast where I won four Olympic medals one gold and three silver wow it's a rare day that you talk about that I know it feels weird I'm actually excited a lot of these I don't know about.

Great. I've never thought to ask. So let's dive into it. Let's do it. First question, Sean, is what was your training schedule like throughout your gymnastics career? So throughout my gymnastics career, my Olympic journey was definitely different and unique because I was a kid.

I was 16 years old by the time I made it to the Olympics. And so my training career and my training schedule always had to revolve around elementary school, middle school, high school, and all of those extracurricular activities. So I trained towards the end, like the last probably five years. I trained six days a week for four hours and it was always after school. And it's rare in a lot of cases for elite gymnastics that you actually did go to school, correct? It is rare. So a very, very long story tried to make, tried to be.

You're trying to shorten a long story made short. There you go. The average elite gymnast trains 9 to 10 hours a day and they're homeschooled and they'll actually school at the gym. But for me, I was very lucky to have a coach who was a world champion from China moved here with the American dream to open his own gym and raise Olympians that were also children that had a life and had like this fine balance because he wasn't capable or able to do that in China. that's something that Sean and I have tried to maintain through our relationship and family life is a sense of balance and I'm glad that you were raised that way next question is Sean so the Olympic trials took place in June that's where they announced and chose the Olympic team what happens between the Olympic trials that were on primetime TV and the actual Olympics couple of weeks later so this has changed a little bit but for me what happened was we would go to Olympic trials we would compete and they would name the team along with the team they would name like 10 alternates only four of those would end up actually being alternates and all of us would then fly to a general training facility where we would all be like housed it was back then the corolli ranch and we would train for two weeks we would go through

more competitions like mock competitions just to make sure that the selection committee was confident with their selections. At the end of those two weeks, they would say, okay, yeah. Do they ever change it? Yes. Whoa, what? Yes.

That's the sketchy part back then. They don't do that anymore. But they would do these trials and they would name a quote-unquote team, but they would change it up. So you would go to this camp, you would train for two more weeks and do mock competitions.

At the end of the two weeks, they would name the final team that traveled and we would fly to the Olympics. by the time we land at the Olympics we still have a good two or three weeks before we compete and that amount of time is just spent getting used to kind of your environment and the new equipment and just kind of your surroundings before you have to compete like in the big time settling into Olympic Village which that Olympic Village might you know deserve its own episode there's a lot of love apparently that's found there uh

one thing that was interesting that's different this trials than last trials correct me if I'm wrong is the CEO of USA gymnastics did not participate in the team in the team selection yes in previous years I think he he headed it and now he did miss lily was outside of that the closed door so I think that's probably good to separate those two but curious to hear any thoughts you have to I actually loved it I I don't think the CEO should have a say it's kind of like the owner of an NFL team having a say in all of the decisions which does that actually happen for some teams but for gymnastics it's such a subjective sport and there's so many different angles that go into it I think for the CEO especially the former CEO and this one their job

is to look at the gymnastics team as business and they're operating a business to the to hopefully the benefit of the athletes and I think if they stay out of that very political decision it gives them the best chance of actually making decisions for the betterment of the athletes and given the history of gymnastics it's also probably better to distribute power amongst as many people as possible just to keep as much visibility on things as possible why do they though keep changing the number of girls on the Olympic gymnastics team I don't know and I absolutely hate it. I think it is a decision that's made by the International Olympic Committee.

I don't want to be fact-checked on this because I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. But the last I was heard and told, the Olympics basically have a general capacity of how many athletes they can house. And with sports ever-changing and evolving coming in and out of the Olympics, Um, they have to kind of like cut numbers from certain sports in order to distribute it amongst new ones. I wonder if I had something to do with title nine, but this year they had four team members, four alternates.

Yes. And then two individual qualifiers. You're going to quiz me on this? Well, I'm curious, the, from a high level, what's the difference between making the gymnastics, the USA gymnastics team and going to the Olympics as an individual from the US. So from a very high level, I don't know the nuances of this and I'm still learning. I've been talking to Nostia and NBC and trying to learn these new rules. But from a very high level, the four girls who are named to the actual USA team, when they go and compete in that team

competition that everybody will watch on NBC, those are the only four girls who will get a medal. If they win one. Yes, if they went on, which they will. The two individuals who will still be wearing red, white, and blue. I don't know how that nuance works if they're technically still representing the United States and if their medals count for the United States. But I do know that they will not receive a team medal. My understanding is that if the individual, so gymnastics has a team event, the all-around event, and individual events. Yes.

So if the USA individual wins a metal, then that would count towards the U.S. metal count, but it's freaking confusing. Well, and let's go even more confusing for you guys. So there used to be, and I don't know where it stands, I'll give you an update. There used to be this rule where there's always a preliminary competition at the Olympics for gymnastics. It's not televised. It's not something you see. but anybody who qualifies to the Olympics goes to prelims and can compete on every single apparatus. At the end of that day, they rank every single athlete at the Olympics first to last.

And the top two placers from each country can compete in the metal round of each apparatus. but hypothetically speaking we take four girls those four girls come in first second third and fourth our third and fourth place girls are not allowed to compete for a medal even if they outplace other countries so what i'm curious about is i think the individual spots override that so if one of our individual girls comes in third or fourth they'll still have the ability to compete for a medal. And also, the interesting thing about the individual spot is Jade,

who is one of the USA. She qualified as part of the team without actually being selected. It was based off her performance, which is different than the team selection. Which I actually love because it takes a lot of the politics out of it. It takes out the subjectivity

and allows her to technically by difficulty and score, earn her place. Yeah. Very interesting. And honestly, The gymnastics selection is always changing from Olympics to Olympics. Let's talk about coaching because that's another unique thing about gymnastics. Every gymnast will bring their own coach.

Does that mean that all the other coaches, like if I'm qualified and you're qualified, does your coach try to coach me and vice versa? Or like, how does that dynamic work? So actually there's a very, there's a lot of like mutual respect here. um every individual athlete has their own individual coach and then there's one overseeing coordinator who kind of organizes everybody uh so that that new organizer who used to be marta corolle is now tom forrester but for us it was those lines were really never blurred whenever i would go into the gym my coach coach chow um was the only person who really had direct

communication with me. Interesting. If Marta ever had any corrections or thoughts or opinions, she would talk to Chow and Chow would talk to me or choose not to or vice versa, whatever. Interesting. But what actually gets interesting is you'll notice, if you watch the Olympics, a lot of times you'll see different coaches running in and out of the arena. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup.

Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, baking or something. Sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's taxes extra. While their girls are actually competing, so only one coach is allowed on the floor at a time. And they're kind of like given a badge. And so if I'm getting ready to go up on beam, Chow will come running into the arena so he can coach me. And then as soon as I'm done, he'll pass his badge off to like Nostia's dad or Alicia's coach.

It's interesting because what the coach is. these athletes spend all of their training time so for you is six days a week four hours a day in iowa so 24 hours like chow was your coach yes and then you would go do these kind of team events or training sessions chow would still go with you and then he's there on the floor because he knows all your corks and he knows how to spot you and how to it's just like a mental thing too from my understanding yeah so it's just it's like important it's not like um baseball where you just switch to coaches and it doesn't matter that much because they don't have that much of an impact. I will say though, yes.

But I will say there is an interesting, one interesting aspect to where when you get to the final metal rounds, so primetime television that you would watch, that passing back and forth isn't technically allowed, you can only have one coach designated per event. And what's really cool is by the time you get to that level, that trust. that you're talking about, those quirks, those everything, all of the coaches will actually come together and spend so much time focusing on every single athlete on the Olympic team to learn those quirks

and to learn what they need to be comforted. And so Chow ended up being like the beam coach where he catered to every athlete from the United States that competed on beam. Wow. And he would learn like when to wink at them, or when to like give him a nod or when to extend a hand or where to put chalk on the beam. But he would learn that for every athlete.

Yeah. And you'll see the coaches on bars like step in and kind of almost shadow guide the athlete or on floor is the other time I can think of adding and removing a mat in the corner sometimes. On beam they'll like add the freaking what's about the springboard. The springboard. So different things like that. but that's very interesting. I will say that there is a definite mutual respect amongst the athletes and coaches that I don't really think they ever try to overstep or cross boundaries or lines that way.

They were all very kind of like they were all very supportive of their personal athletes and the other athletes competing. Why are men's events in gymnastics so much different from women's? I have no idea. but they I think it might have to do with this structural build of a male versus a female because like I would never be able to do the rings um but a guy would have a very hard time doing the beam so who knows I think that's just how it was written back in the day I'm actually hold on let's just I'm curious about this so um this says okay that the routines

try to feature different skills so men's floor routines are more about flips uh the gymnastics events for men are due to to your point to different structural differences men have better upper body strength um and i guess there's some gender norms yeah splashed on there as well we're like like probably seeing a dude on a balance beam yeah first of all makes me nervous to even think about yeah but i i i think to it probably went back to ancient times when it was created of there was such this feminine movement of artistry with women's gymnastics and there was such a strength component to men's gymnastics so the events and their stylistic differences were designed based off of that in ancient times and you're seeing that evolve with every olympics now

I mean, perfect example of Simone Biles is, I mean, truly out-competing men with her difficulty in her scores. And you're seeing that kind of overlap, which is really cool. All right, you name the women's events and I'll try to name the men's. Ball, bars being floor. Easy. Okay, there's six men's. Yes. You got floor.

Yes. Palm a horse. Yes. Rings. Yes. Bars. Did I say that? What type of bars?

Parallette bars. Parallel. Parallel. Parallel. Parallel bars. But they also have bars. No. They have.

What? Steel bars. What bars? High bars. High bars. High bar. Just one bar. A bar.

A bar. They freaking whip around all that things. Yeah, they do. In vault. Yeah. Anyway. Back to the idea of gender norm. in the sport do points in the movie stick it this happened do points really get deducted if

your bra shows so within the code of points which is kind of the rulebook of gymnastics yes they can technically deduct if they don't like the aesthetic of a gymnast so that means if they don't like your body style if they don't like your garment anything interesting however I will say that is evolving. There used to be rules back in the day where you couldn't wear colored nail polish. You couldn't have distracting, quote-unquote distracting makeup. You couldn't let tattoo show. You couldn't be individualized. Your local Benjamin Moore retailer is more than a paint expert. There's someone with paint in their soul. A six cents honed over decades. And if you have a question

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Benjamin Moore, see the love. Based off your look? Yeah, based off your look. Interesting. But now people, our sport is more and more celebrating that and letting that be the part of the artistry. So it's not as much an issue anymore.

To Olympic specific questions. When you were there, what were the media obligations like? Media obligations. We really didn't have any media obligation until we are done competing. After you're done competing, you kind of go through the circuit.

So you go through the NBC interviews. You talked to Bob Costas. You do like the international outlets, everything. And you usually do that within. your arena. So whatever sport you're competing in, as soon as you're done competing, you'll go through almost like a corral. It's like a maze of every single outlet that has come to the Olympics. And you'll just do like step by step by step interviews until you get through them. I technically don't think you're obligated to do any of them. But I do think for the athletes, it's such a huge moment where

they're wanting to share their story and their triumphs and tribulations and just kind of everything they went through to get there so it's it's a pretty big honor for an athlete to do i wonder if there's anyone who's done the marsan lynch i'm this year so i don't get fined i wonder if they do have a fine schedule in place for something like that the NFL does i don't think so for the olympics yeah uh what does a typical day in the life look like for an athlete at the olympics at the olympics uh it's very different based off of sport based off of country Everything is kind of determined by team. For us, what it looked like, and for us, it was a little bit different because we were, we were minors living in the Olympic Village.

So were you mining gold or silver? That was the worst joke. That was. That was. Yes. Because we were underage, Andrew. Okay. Thank you.

And not mining gold. We were very restricted from our coaches just for safety measures. Yeah. So we pretty much stayed as a team and we would stay in our room during downtime. We would go to practice. We would go to the cafeteria with our chaperones and with our coaches. We would go to the training hall where we would get like physical therapy done or go in the hot tub or the ice bath or whatever. And then they do have recreational activities at the Olympic Village.

So they have like a barbershop or they have a game. zone or they have like walking paths they it's truly like its own little community we would go do that every once in a while but again under the supervision of adults it's interesting yeah it does vary by sport we talked about this in last year's video about the olympics and how the pandemic affected it but the structure of each sport federation and the olympics can can change from sport to sports. So the Olympics work, you have the International Olympic Committee, the IOC, and then each country has their respective Olympic committee. So for the United States, is the USOC. U.S.OC kind of like manages, from my understanding, the sport committee. So for gymnastics,

you have USA Gymnastics, but then USA Gymnastics is under the International Gymnastics Federation, which is called the FIG, and every sport has their own variation of that. So depending on the strictness or vibe of the coaches or the, you know, the organizers. I'm really proud of you for knowing all of that. I don't know if I explained that well or not, but I gave it my best shot. Here's the pyramid. It's confusing. The NFL, you got freaking 32 teams and one organizer.

So here's the pyramid. And you set it perfectly, just a little out of order. So you have the International Olympic Committee. They're the bigwigs. They're the top of the top. Under them, you have the federations of every sport. Okay. So like the top of the top of international sports.

Yeah. Under them, you have the country's Olympic committees. Okay. So the Chinese Olympic Committee, the Russian Olympic Committee, the U.S. Olympic Committee. And under them, you have the organizations for every country, for every sport. USAG. USA cycling, USA track and field. And at each level, they can make their own rules.

That is very confusing. Yes. All right. We're going to skip a little. Olympic Village question, because if people like this episode, we'll do a whole one on that. Cool. Okay. But we're curious.

One listener asked if you get paid for your medals, or do you have to pay for your medals? Which is it? Both, technically. Interesting. So whether you are, which congratulations, hold up. Whether you are saving your eligibility for the NCAA, which, congratulations is no longer an issue in not accepting money at the Olympics it's the one place where you can safely accept money prize money of any kind and not mess with your eligibility but at the

Olympics gold silver and bronze medals come with prize money from the international Olympic committee so yes you get paid for the medals but then that actually counts as income so you pay taxes on it. Wow. And you had an Olympic ring that you had to pay for too, yeah? Yes. There are Olympic rings that are issued by every country and for us we had to pay for them. Getting to the country of hosting the Olympics. This year it's in Tokyo, Japan. Who pays for the travel? So a lot of this is specified and differentiated by federations. But for the United States, but for the United States, the U.S. Olympic Committee and each individual federation will pay for your travel. So USA Gymnastics and U.S.O.C. paid for us.

Cool. Yeah. What's your favorite Olympic sport to watch, babe? I would say gymnastics, track and fields, swimming, diving. In that order? Yeah. Wow. And how many Olympics have you attended?

Yes. Whoa. You've competed. in one. I've competed in 2008, but I've attended 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016. That's it. Wow. It's pretty good. Five. I think I've been to one. I've been in Atlanta. Let's know how many Olympics you've been to listening. You listening. What is your favorite? We'll wrap it up here with a couple of questions. And if people do like this episode of Olympics, we can do another one. But I feel like there's so many topics that we could cover that we need to like categorize it. Yeah. What is your

favorite Olympic memory? My favorite Olympic memory. I have, what I think? I have two that come to mine. Okay. The first one is reading, playing, learning. Stellist lenses do more than just correct your child's vision. They slow down the progression of myopia. so your child can continue to discover all the world has to offer through their own eyes. Light the path to a brighter future with Stellist lenses for myopia control. Learn more at SLOR.com and ask your family eye care professional for SLOR Stellist lenses at your child's next visit. During the all-around competition, I had put so much pressure on myself to win the all-around gold

because it was kind of predicted that I was going to or supposed to. based off of my skill set and my scores, all social media, all media outlets were saying that that was the expectation from me for our country. And I remember going out there being really consumed by people's opinions and being weighed down by it. And by the time I got to the last event of that competition, because of scores, there wasn't a possible way for me to win gold,

by the last event. I knew my sport well enough and I knew the scores well enough that even if I had the most perfect routine, I still couldn't achieve that gold medal. And there was just this revelation that I kind of felt and realization that I felt in that moment

that I was at the Olympic Games, I was competing on the biggest stage in the entire world, and I was at that moment doing it for someone else for their expectations on me. And I just kind of felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. because I felt like I had kind of failed already those expectations that people put on me. I had no other reason to finish the competition to finish the competition than for myself.

And I remember looking at my coach and seeing my parents in the stands. I was just kind of like, you know what, eff it. This is not for anybody else, but for me. I have worked my whole life to be here. And in that one moment, I got to experience just true freedom of expectation. and I got to have fun as an athlete, which I hadn't had in a while. And it was the most liberating, freeing moment and feeling of my life. And I felt like that was the first time at the Olympics that I got to truly enjoy it.

And I performed really well and I had a great time. Started bowling when I was done. My coach was bawling. My parents were bawling. And I just felt proud. I could have cared less what medal I got, what score I got. I just knew I did my best, which was awesome. The second moment was I distinctly remember being in our apartment in the Olympic Village,

our gymnastics apartment, which was just us girls. And we were just talking teenage conversation, because we're all 16, 17, 18 years old, talking about boys and our clothes and just really dumb stuff, eating gummy bears, sneaking snickers. stuffing our face with candy and ice cream and i just look back on that and we were such children enjoying the greatest moment and the greatest stage in the world and it was really fun i don't want to downplay i mean it is a once in a lifetime like incredible accomplishment i've heard you tell that story a million times yeah about the medals and you're not being able to win the all around gold but it's like I just had this thought of it doesn't matter it's not about the it's not about the gold medal

it's not about making the Olympics it's not about whatever the next accomplishment is for you or me or anybody it's just literally about I don't know I don't mean to sound cheesy but like who you are in that situation with whatever you're given I don't know I just the Olympics epic i freaking love watching them and i love how people set world records there all the time and it's like cool to see how far you could push humanity but it's just there's so many um i'm just thinking about the weight of gold documentary about the mental health that comes with pushing your pushing yourself to push records like that and it's like dude it's not there are more important things than the gold medal than the olympics and whatever accomplishment so i i don't know i not to downplay it but yeah i think

we could do an entire conversation on on that but i think so many people myself included up until that moment for me a lot of people don't don't you know have that realization yeah um but train their whole life to be an olympic gold medalist thinking that it's the end of the road they i never once looked past that gold medal or i i never planned out what the moment after would look like what i would do with my life and you see a lot of people break like emotionally physically you see it in the documentary weight of gold because you invest everything into a moment of praise and you never prepare of how to handle it afterwards and I think when people put too much weight into that gold medal way to gold um they lose they lose themselves and when it was kind of taken from me when i

wasn't even capable of achieving it during that competition i had to very quickly realize that like i i still had purpose and i still had a life ahead of me i don't know it seems like you might be fortunate as well that you went through this at such a young and already transformative transformative age of 16 where like whatever you're everything's changing at that point it would be harder to come to that realization of what happens after I win the gold medal that I've been trying my whole life for when you're like 40 year old 40 years old you know what I'm saying the older you get the harder it is to the heavier that way it is the more you've invested yeah yeah and yeah and it's it's only magnified on that stage too because

For me, processing what came afterwards when I won the silver medal instead of the gold and the all-around, having every media outlet, just hundreds back to back to back to say, how does it feel to lose, to fail? What would you have done differently? What do you regret? What would you go back and change? All these things. It solidifies on a lot of people, that idea that they are only worth what their metal, like, symbolizes. And to see a silver medal at the Olympics as failure can mess a lot of people up. And for me, I had a very great community of people around me to remind me that know that is an honor of a lifetime.

But that can weigh in a lot of people. You have any regrets from your Olympic experience? I do not. I think you make a lot of mistakes. I think you go through a lot of different things in life, but I don't believe in regrets because I think they shape who you are as a person. As far as the Olympics, if I were to joke around with one, I wish I would have taken more pictures and saved those memories.

I was so focused on the competition that I tried to blur everything out. And it's hard for me to remember. I'm just going to publicly say this. I wasn't even referencing that. No, I freaking know, but it keeps me up at nights. When I think about it, Sean, when we first started dating, this was the first year of our dating relationship. I needed a laptop for school,

so she was generous enough to lend me her laptop. Turns out that that was a laptop she had all her Olympic pictures on. The cloud didn't exist back then. So I lose the laptop and all of Sean's Olympic pictures and memories along with it. Not all your memories, but the tangible freaking, I can't believe that. I am a knucklehead. You know, I can...

I'm sorry, dude. Gosh. I don't think anything of it, baby. It's totally fine. I think about it all the time. Anyway, my memories with you and our daughter and our family are so much more important. I'm thankful for you. Thanks for sharing.

Those are good questions. We'll wrap that up there. Let us know if you want to have a part two to the Olympic conversations. This is different than our normal cup of things episode, but I don't know. I think it's interesting for you and I to explore that. as a couple because there's a lot of questions that yeah we haven't discussed and then also each and every one of those things that we discussed like Michaela Skinner oh Michaela Skinner is married and just like think about the impacts of if you were going through

the Olympic journey right now what would that look like or Chelsea Mimel was trying to like she is kids and a husband it's like how what does that look when you're trying to make the Olympics and a totally different level only specific to this year Michaela skinner is a perfect example there's an international ban on travel so her husband can't go yeah it's crazy uh it's a bump yeah well crazy anyway that's all we have if you made it this far please subscribe just hit the little subscribe button on whatever platform listening on and give it a rating let us know what you thought thanks for tuning in that's all we have i'm andrew i'm sean we're the east fam out Thank you.