Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew - special forces episode 3 recap

Episode Date: October 13, 2026

we're back with another special forces recap, and episode 3 is bringing back ALL the memories! as former contestants on we're back and breaking down this week's challenges, the growing pressure on the recruits, sweet moments, our favorite quotes and contestants AND what it's actually like to experience these moments firsthand. from the physical demands to the mental battles, we're sharing our reactions, behind-the-scenes insight, and the things you don't get to see on tv. plus, we're talking about who's impressing us, who we're rooting for, and how quickly everything can change when you're in that environment. if you're watching along with us, let us know your thoughts on episode 3 and what you want us to cover next week! thanks for watching and being part of the east fam! ❤️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody. Welcome back to couple things. Special Forces. Which shot on Andrew. Episode three was intense. I felt it in my bones. I'm excited to dive into it. It's also fun to see y'all's responses. We just published this interview with DSQ and Ian, which was a great episode. Y'all loved it. It's been our best performing episode. So I think people are interested in the series, which is fun. We're having a blast creating this for you. So stay tuned for more.

I really want to get Billy and Foxy and Rudy and DSQ all on an interview together. That is my dream. I'm putting it out into the world. I love it. I've never seen an interview with Billy, though. So I think that might be an ambitious goal to have on the airport. I wonder Billy's just like, nah, man. Okay, this one was intense.

This was, I'll jump forward and we'll come back. This was the milling episode, which happens in every season. Milling is what they call fighting, boxing. It's when you're doing hand-to-hand combat. The episode starts with they wake up. It's day three in the rainforest or the jungle, whatever you want to call that. They're going through the motions, and they have been told, get ready and be on the square. When they run out to the square, they have, they're told one to bring their gums shields.

That's right. What is a gumshells? It's so funny to learn the lingo of other parts of the world. Gumshield is what we call a mouth guard. Yeah. I remember the first couple of times Billy said that. I was like, what are you talking about? I don't know what you're saying.

And then he also calls boxing milling, which I've never heard in my life. But yeah, so then they get the bergans and you see that they were weighing the burghans. Yes, which is like a huge thing. I haven't really told you guys about that before, but you are told that your burghans have to weigh a very specific amount of weight. they cannot be under that weight. And if they are under that weight, usually you get like be stings. Penalty workout is what that is. They said 15 kilograms?

I think so. Which car was different though. Yeah, it was different. But they usually give you materials to fill your bag with outside of the stuff they give you. So in the bag, they usually give you like a lunchbox with silverware for your meals. It's like a tin can. You get wine and you have to wash it and clean it. You get a little coffee cup.

You get a pen and pencil or a pencil and like a little piece of paper. Like a waterproof notebook kind of. You have a flashlight in there. Oh, and then you have this like waterproof bag. Yeah. In your waterproof bag, you have to put all of your clothes, your shoes and stuff. So it's like take everything with you. but in other seasons

they have really tested the waterproof before because on day one they usually, they didn't show it this season, but they'll take you into your barracks and they'll teach you how to pack your burghans properly. And that means filling that waterproof bag with all of your stuff and sealing it in a very particular way so that even if it's submerged

does it get wet. Actually they did test it with us. We were in water a few times with our bergans on. Yeah, and they didn't show any of that. I have a confession to make that I don't think we've ever talked about. Yours was never wait. No, this is back to what you mentioned earlier about the pot and the forks that they give you. So I was on dish duty.

I was assigned dish duty on day one by DSQ. Yeah. For what, it was like some penalty. I forget why I was put on dish duty, but I was a dishwasher. And then I think he forgot to assign that role with someone else. Yeah. You have like the duty crew assignment. You have the toilet cleaner assignment.

Yeah. But I got the dishwasher assignment. minute and I had it the whole time and here was a situation that I found myself in that is my confession so there was 18 of us that started off a couple of days and everyone dropped their their their forks and pots into the big trough sink and I tried to do my best but I do think that pretty much every meal we were using someone else's I don't know how it didn't get sick or some worse didn't happen but we were basically basically looking there.

And then, yeah, you put in your bag and it's full of sand. It's like a mess. But then I also feel like we had to put a sandbag at the bottom of our bag to keep it high enough or...

Heavy enough. And that was one example of maybe half a dozen tedious tasks that we were given. But you had to do these things. We had to wear bags like two or three times a day you had to do whatever odd job chore on site i remember at one point we had to memorize this whole sheet of information yes that we did not use at all we didn't use

and we are so oh my gosh it goes like four hours we spent four hours memorizing this and we kept that with us the memorization for like days it was like all we would talk about we'd be in the car saying uh what's the cat got right i guess i guess i'm going to right i guess i guess we'd get that with us Oh, in the population of Morocco. And at one point, you guys, I was in our square, so like that little where you line up, and I was told to clean up rocks. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah.

I had to clean up the rocks from the square. I remember that. The whole square was made of rocks. Yeah. So what do you do? You just spent like, yeah, but the tedious, it was so interesting. I was breaking rocks. But you've never approached such a tedious task.

was such vigor before, you know, because you're like, well, I don't want to get penalized. I don't want someone else to get penalized. I don't know if this is actually leading up to something bigger or if this is a part of something bigger. So it was like this whole mind game, I feel like. I remember the rocks thing. Whoever it was, I was with, but I don't remember it.

We started with like big rocks. Let's get rid of big rocks. And then nobody came out to talk to us, you know? So like, okay. So we kind of like lower our expectation a little bit. So we're like, let's go over the medium rocks. Nobody came to get us. We're like, okay, we're picking out pebbles now.

How far we take this thing for we let ourselves go? But you don't want to do that? No, they do those pails full of rocks that we were taking to the corner and dumping them. Anyway, the weighing the bag is funny. It was so funny. Yeah. But to the boxing. On the boxing.

Okay, so they load their burghans. They get in the cars. They're going somewhere. They arrive to their location. And even watching this again, you guys, I felt like I was shaking, watching these people. Because nothing compares to this. It is the one, I think it's the one challenge you're anticipating and nervous for. No matter what season, no matter who you are, except maybe Alicia Baumgartner.

She was stone coal. It's kind of like me walking across the ladder from building to building. I was like, y'all are, some people are crippled by this fear. I was like, this is just another beam. So they all line up. And I cannot explain that feeling of what basically happens is you're lined up. You all have numbers and all of the DS are talking and they just start calling out two numbers on time. But like once, one round up time.

So they're like, nine and four. You're like, oh, yeah. Yeah. You had rocked the DS on either side. And they literally in the matter of maybe 60 seconds, they put your gloves and your hat off at half, half, headgear? Head gear. And they literally say like one thing.

Like, you just keep fighting. You're like, okay. And the rules of it, Billy always explains as you fight until I say stop. And you go all in. There's no retreating. There's no strategic. It's just like you go all out until I say stop. I remember, well, they showed the scene of Alexia shaking.

She couldn't open her gum shield container. And this for sure was the thing that people were most nervous about. Oh, yeah. We had a conversation with Jesse in the car where she was like, I can't do this. I can't do this for 20 minutes. I was trying to just encourage her. Because on our season, Jesse and I were convinced who you're fighting each other. Yeah.

But you know that you're probably going to fight. You just don't know who you're going to fight. Like Sean said, you're standing there and they call your number and you have about 15 seconds to process and then next thing you know you're toe to toe looking at, I mean I fought Eric Decker who's a friend of mine and you're like

one, I've never done this before. Two, are we actually about to punch each other in the face? And then three, he says go and I get punched in the face. I'm like, okay, game on. And you're on this soft surface. They were on sand except we were. And so it's like a little sloppy.

Your feet are all tied up. You're kind of slipping around. It's hard to It's hard to move fluidly, and you're just going until they say stop. It's not like set three minute rounds or set one minute round. You're just going. And it's very different timing for every pairing or couple. And that's something you also don't see. Some people are going for like a while.

Some people are going for a short round of time because there's clearly an advantage. It is whatever. And it's after that you, after you fight, the DS will like talk and try to figure out a winner. But we see different pairings go up. the very first pairing is Oliver and David, which was very fascinating. This happens, I feel like, every season,

but it looks like Oliver is going to be the stronger one, that all of a sudden David is a stronger one. No. And Billy yells out, stop. Yeah. And David doesn't hear. And Billy tosses them off. Tosses that.

Yeah. There are moments that you see throughout every season where you get little glimpses of how freaking strong and much of a boss all four of those guys are. Yeah. Yeah. Even seeing Billy just toss this guy. You use that term red mist.

Yeah. Which I thought was interesting. And this is one of the takeaways I had from this episode that was also a takeaway I had from being on the show more broadly was this idea of like awareness. Yeah. And so red mist in this situation was like this cloud of. of fog or you can't understand what's going on or this guy's yelling me and I should probably stop.

You have so much adrenaline going. Yeah. The whole world turns out. Yeah. But to me it tied into what they were talking to Max about and I sit down in an interview about you need to show more emotions. And you and I were talking about how that type of stoicism of not showing your emotions is really seemingly helpful in sports.

Or at least you think it is. but they're encouraging people to be more aware in that sense. And it just is, it's curious to me because I don't associate emotions with high performance. Yeah. But I'm trying to work through it in the sense of like, okay, well, maybe instead of trying to pretend like they don't exist, if I'm more am aware of all components of what's going on,

both physically, emotionally, relationally with whoever else is around me, I can make a better, I can make the best choice instead of just like blindly pressing forward. I remember feeling the red mist situation with me and Cody Brown. When we did this thing where you had to go in and find a, find a person. With the gas.

With the gas. Yeah. And literally not even being able to remember anything. but I also think to what Max was saying I do think there is he said that as an athlete I've trained

to put my emotions aside there is this almost I don't say a disadvantage with something that we really have to work through on the show or even for me I can so easily flip a switch and go completely numb

and almost like not even have a thought just go completely blanked and just follow emotion And that's what I did Half the time on that show If you're going for a run If we're doing a challenge

I would just turn off any Thought of any kind And go completely none But then what they're talking about Is you cannot do that And their jobs Because you're not the only one No and you're actually

There's so many things You're supposed to be taking in Whereas What got me through my career Was literally just Going Completely White Space

not allowing emotion and not allowing thought and not allowing rationalized thinking of any kind, I just do it. Do you think that's necessary to do what you did in your individual sport to be able to compartmentalize and drown out your emotions like that?

I think very similar to maxim in my specific sport associated with the age. Yes. Does that make sense? It's like, figure skating is usually younger, younger upbringings. You're training at like incredibly intense levels. I think as a child, they under such immense pressure,

but not understanding complexities of the world yet, not being mature enough to understand a lot of things. I learned how to train by turning off my mind. Interesting. In putting full thought, full weight, into letting my coach Joel thinking for me. And so that's, I guess, that idea of turning something off and turning inward to yourself,

like in this situation with Yomanski boxing, or sorry, Charvei boxing, it's almost like they're positioning as, hey, you're at an elite level, but if you want to be on an elite team, then you must, you must be able to keep on everything. Absolutely.

If you wouldn't be able to listen. Sorry, one more thing to ask. Because I've never even thought about this before and what they were saying to me because they told me the same thing that they told to Maxum, which is like we need to see more emotion. I think being an elite athlete like him, there is an element of turning your brain off

and going numb, setting emotions aside, and letting a coach tell you exactly what to do. I had never been put in a position similar like this show and maybe Maximus well where it's like you're feeling all of that pressure on your own and you're the coach. You're the one having to discern and make the decisions in the moment. At my highest pressure moment situations, I had someone telling me, jump now, do this, do that. I never had to be the decision maker. So even when we did the show, I could turn off emotion.

and do whatever anybody asks. But when they wanted me to lead or they wanted me to do the decision making, I couldn't do it. I had a really hard time doing it. Interesting. It was, it was Kuvah. I obviously love, I would watch this episode over and over again.

Because it oddly reveals people's athleticism that are like, it's so informative to see like how people move through that, to see how they respond to that situation, to see an aspect of them that you never otherwise see. And to watch Alicia Baumgart, the pro, was amazing. Let's talk about that whole seat. So they go through all the pits.

Yeah. And you know, every single one of those people is sitting there cranging that they don't get called against Alicia. You know, the entire day is just about who's going to fight Alicia. World champion boxer. World champion boxer. I as a viewer, because we don't know anything going into this, am thinking it 100% has to be a DS, which they have done before.

Because anybody else being in there with it would be too dangerous? Absolutely. Yeah. Because you have people who literally haven't never swung once in their life, going against someone who is a trained professional there. And so it goes through all the things and they call Lisa out. and I'm on the edge of my seat like who's he going to be?

And then they say, volunteer? Are you kidding? I would have stepped behind someone and been like, no cheat. And then, and then even as a viewer for me, I'm like,

they're going to laugh us off and a DS is going to volunteer. I thought they were just waiting for someone to raise their hand and then they were going to say it. Just kidding. But I think this is one of the coolest parts of any episode I've ever seen,

when Maxa raised his hand? Yeah. My jaw was on the floor. I was still waiting for them to say, no, you're not going on. I was still waiting for them to say, go, stop, you know? But you see them both show up.

He goes for it. And she, all I can imagine is she's obviously holding back, but she's still giving him enough to spar, right? If you watch the difference in efficiency, of movement. She doesn't move. It was so fascinating to walk. Everyone else would kind of frantically

move around their feet and swing in randomly. She was so calculated and controlled. She's playing chess. It was amazing. And then to see the DS, their faces respond. And when they called it, they ended up saying a draw. Your initial reaction is like, that's not fair. She's got to be pissed.

I actually think what Billy said is, one, good for you, Maxo. Like, that was so brave, so courageous. You went for it. That's all they need to see. And two, to Alicia, so amazing on you to have the ability as an elite athlete there to control yourself enough to show up and not have to win and not have to crush him. And, like, the amount of the control she showed, I thought was so respectful. Yeah. And respectable.

We had a volunteer situation in our boxing event. Was it who was going to fight Nick Young? I think he was going to fight Nick. No, we had a volunteer for a different challenge. That's right. Because someone needed to go again. The dunker on the airplane. Yeah, and you volunteered, and they, like, rolled their eyes.

There was, like, three people that volunteered. I know that's not the same as boxing. Yeah. Boxing is a little more intense, but the other part here that is a beauty of the show, the beautiful aspect, is, like, you just find yourself in situations that you've never. never otherwise being. Yeah.

And Alicia made the comment after to Max, she was like, hey, I know that it could be weird punching a girl. Yeah. And you're like, oh, yeah. The way they, somehow the way they positioned the whole thing, it's like, that actually didn't even really occur to me. Didn't occur to me? She was obviously.

There's not, there's no way above him. Yeah. It was not like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this inequality in some sense. It was like, no, who's going to fight? Not like play favorites, but like my number one favorite cast member right now is Maxim. Yeah. Because of everything. They then go on to Maxim's interview, which brought me to Tierrez.

His story is heart-wrenching where he lost his parents in a plane crash right after national championships. And one, his both his parents were Olympians or world champions. And they raised him to do the same. And exactly one year later, he came on, came to be an Olympian. And to see him, like, reliving that moment was really, really hard. You could tell Foxy and Rudy had a lot of empathy for him in that. Yeah. I mean, they're both dads, and they both speak so highly.

Being dads and being having children. Yeah. I thought it was beautiful to hear them say, like, let's find them. let's find something in a way through this that we can use. It was very encouraging. This was a big episode for Max. He also says a comment. He says, as a Soviet, you never hear, I love you or I'm proud of you.

Oh, you got from her parents. And even how he was telling the story about what happened to his parents, which is tragic. Like, it wasn't a sobbing cry. It's like this, I don't know, it painted this cultural picture of like, hey, we are stoic. And you kind of see that and now he lives his life and the feedback that Foxing Q were giving him. To me, I'm like, well, is that even culturally relevant to Max? Is that like fair to try to impose this style on him?

I don't think it's an imposed imposition. I think it's a challenge for the specific situation. Like, they're not asking him to bring out more emotion in life. life. They're saying in order to pass this challenge in this, you know, course, this is what we need from you. Okay. This is requirement of the course. Yeah. I do want to make a note too. I thought it was really beautiful the way it was shown of him reliving that moment, them asking how did it feel when you became an uncle and he said, all I wanted was to have my parents. And then to hear Rudy give him They're in this position as we are recruits and they are the DS.

You are, to a certain extent, trying to please and make them proud, you know. They're the ones you're aspiring to be like to get their approval up. But to hear Rudy say, I just know you're doing a really good job. And that's uncharacteristic of them three days in. That was really cool. It's such an interesting dynamic because on the one hand, they're kind of your enemy. Yeah.

The DS are putting you through so much suffering. But on the other hand, all that you're striving for is their affection and acknowledgement. And so it's like the tension there is so interesting. But then Max says that it is personal. And like as he's debriefing in the barracks, You just talked about how personal is. And it really is an overwhelming task.

Like you're sitting in this room, this interview situation that feels like you're, you know, preparing for jail or you're in jail. And the interview style is a lot of blank space. Yeah. They're not, it's not like this warm podcast interface where they're like, oh my gosh, it's so good to see you. we're going to be friends. It's like you walk in and they stare at you. And then in your mind, you're always, how do I tell them about me in a short, reasonable way?

Like, how do I distill my story for them? Yeah. I don't know. I just found the whole thing such a challenging deal that it was so personal and so challenging to say, why am I here? why am I doing this? What am I hoping to get out of this?

When they say tell me about yourself, how, like, what is it about myself that I want to tell them? It's just like this weird blank canvas where you're like, okay, well, here we go. It is really hard. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the first part.

You can tell that there's been like a break, probably around middle of the day. they go on for their second challenge, which is the break men. And this is like the trust hall. You've got one person on the top of a cliff looking like they're going to repel and another person or a teammate at the bottom. And with their bare hands, we have gloves in every rope challenge that we did. Yeah.

But you see the top person just free fall. And whenever they call break, the trust person at the bottom house to like with their bare hands, pull the rope to tighten it and break their fault. It looks like there's a lot of people who have, like, a lot of fear of heights because they're very nervous up on the cliff, and a lot of people very nervous about not hurting their partner and making sure they catch them. We were saying they always have fail safes.

They always make sure that people are safe. It looks like Foxy was like the fail safe for this one. You're risky, but also adds the pressure. Yeah. So they go through very similar, if not the same exact matchup says the Milling. So you have Alicia and Maxim. Alicia's free falling. Maxim is catching them.

They did really well. David and Oliver. David is falling. Oliver's Ricky. They did well. The first one that they show where they show like a lot of nerves is Alexia and Candice. Yeah. and the other ones who are like punching,

but Alexia has like some mishap on the side of the cliff. She falls and it looks like foxy catches her. I don't know how that pained out. It's like, I don't know. The whole thing was baffling to me because I'm like, how, what if it goes from? By the way, this was such an iconic scene to me. Like, it is, first of all, it's bonkers to stand up there or lay down there, just hanging from a rope.

Like, I can only imagine the nerves. Anybody who's even a little bit of freight of heights, it's like, this is the boss level iteration of this. But then the shot, like from a camera's perspective with the glimmering water in the background, that's so beautiful. Also, thinking, right, it looks maybe, I don't always say it looks simple. but to take your hands off of your own rope would be a really crazy field. Yeah, a high degree of trust. High degree of trust.

Because any repelling we did, we always had our own rope. Oh my gosh. I think that's where I would struggle. I have like a control issue of I want to be able to control my own safety and not like putting in other people's hands. That would have been difficult. I just have to question marks on this because they do mention

like Matt Barnes is this huge NBA player and I forget who his partner was, but like, they said, yeah, you're going to be more than that. When Alexia and Candacea was watching, which is Alexia's father, and you hear him make a comment saying, I wish she wasn't here, it would be such an interesting dynamic to have father-daughter

and have father-watching daughter be put in, like, precarious situations. I know even, like, my dad would believe in me, right? but also not want to see me suffering, nervous, fearful. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that because it was interesting when I heard that. I don't think there was any part of me when we were on the show together that felt like I wish you weren't here.

No. I wonder why, like, that protective instinct of shielding you from something when I know that you're able to do it. I'm like, you're my teammate. I'm not, I think being a protector is part of my role in our marriage in certain ways. I think you protect me in certain ways.

I think I provide in certain ways. I think you provide in certain ways. I think it's like this, it's this partnership. It's this teamwork that I would way rather have you out there with me than have this feeling of, no, I wish you weren't here in a sense of like, to me it infers a little bit of like she's not capable or this is too much for her, or this makes her too uncomfortable. I'm like, I don't think anything

is too much for you. I don't know if that's good or bad. That's also husband and wife. Yeah. And that's what I want in our partnership. I wouldn't want the opposite. But it would be an interesting dynamic to have the father.

Like, what is true? I think I'd still try to have the same approach, you know? Yeah. We also kind of parent that way, but it was interesting to hear that and to see that, like, make the cut. I was like, day. Our style parent, like parenting, we talked about this. It's not a try to pretend it doesn't exist or remove from the situation. It's a prepare for.

And that applies for school situation. It applies for sports, for whenever there's drama between friends. It's not like, let's remove them. from this. It's how can we give them the right tools? I'm not saying he did it wrong. It just got me thinking about, am I doing it wrong?

Yeah. Which brings us to the last part of the show in the last part of the episode, which is Alexia's interview, which is a bomb being dropped. She's got a lot of emotion. I would assume she's probably come into this interview, maybe feeling like this is her moment to divulge

to share something, which is a huge moment. She ends up saying that she was taken advantage of by a friend years ago when she passed out from drinking too much. And she tells the DS that she has not shared this with anyone, not even her family. And it was really, really beautiful to hear the DS. They're in such a place of like wanting to give back her power. and to find her confidence again, I think they, you see their, um, agreeing or her, their approval of her saying, I'm truly here for me.

Like, I want to find the courage. I want to say that I have grit. I want to say that I have, it's her taking back her control, which is really cool. But then it follows her, but Rudy even says, big line, right? He's like, I think you have what it takes to get to the end. Let's just keep going. Then it ends with her in the bunker. People asking how to go and she actually tells her down for the first time.

That was cool. Seen to me. That felt heartbreaking to me as a parent. Because I can only imagine in that moment how he's trying to be strong for her. And you're always going to see your daughter as a little girl. But having that in your mind, she said, I never wanted to, like, bother you. with it almost or put that weight on you

that had to have crushed him to know that one something happened to his little girl too that he wasn't there and he couldn't fix it yeah yeah I

it was really cool to see her progress through telling the DS which I'm sure is a big step to just even say those words if you've never said them but more. And then pretty much go right in and tell her dad because she was compelled to.

And that's a hard thing to do. Also, just the camaraderie that you see from all the other recruits. That's what I freaking love the show, dude. It's like it's healing in some ways. And it's bonding and it's healthy and it's just cool to see that they're three days in. and think about the breakthroughs that have already happened, you know? And you've heard a lot in this episode, like the I got your back, you had my back, teammates, trust. By day three, I think Billy even says that at the beginning, they bonded heavily.

Whether you agree with what anybody does outside of the show, you have drastically bonded. Yeah. And you're like leaning on each other, trusting each other in it with each other. other and you become family yeah uh so nobody left the show spoiler but a couple other quotes that i've read there on get your perspective on rudy says that our world is violence and billy says that you need to kill or be killed their world their world they're talking about military special forces the world okay well that's a facet like if they are special forces operators yeah yeah do they have any other world as soon as they transition out?

No. I think about these veterans, which was another cool takeaway for us doing the show, is we've gotten a connect with so many special forces, folks. And you hear these stories about how hard it is for them to transition back in, and you're like, yeah, well, you need to approach the world and a killer be killed, kill the way. And then there's this, Richard Sherman was a football player. He was like, played to the Seahawks. It was a great defensive back. And I remember he did this postgame interview after some epic win that they had.

And the interviewer was like shocked at how aggressive he was. Like how worked up he was. And he was like, well, yeah, what do you expect me? What do you expect me to do? I'm out here. I'm doing gladiator stuff playing football. it's a highly violent sport, you only be just automatically

to be able to switch that off? I think about that often sometimes where it's like, this is how they approach the world. Thank goodness for these men and women who do that. But like it gives me a certain amount of empathy where maybe it shows you how soft

I've gotten our culture, but it's like I don't view the statement our world of the violence as true. And obviously, we are not special forces, folks, but like, it's a harsh contrast, you know. I think you're interpreting it as like our world, our earth. I don't think it was a blanket cement to what everybody lives in.

I think what special forces operatives are seeing for the most part of their lives in service is unfortunately a harshest reality is in the world. Does that make sense? They see the worst part of our world. Yes. But they still have to deal with this. So you have to have that mentality

of our world is violence, you know? I understand his statement as being more specific to time stamps of you have to think. They're putting together a course to become special. operative. Quotes.

You know, everything is a mirror of something that they go through in their world. He said, to be a special operative and our world,

our world is violence. You have to lower hand feet with violence. I don't think he was saying our whole world we limit in this violence. But I'm still thinking

if I'm Rudy, his world. I think, I agree. I think his mind that would have to be trained to say, I need to be prepared for that. And exactly to what you're saying, though,

is we have such hearts for, we have so many friends that come out of special operative service where you're just like, it is so, so difficult to turn that off, if not impossible. And we've seen people somewhat successfully do it, but it's just because they're redirecting that obsessive nature that they have to be so good at what they do

into something else. But it's really challenging. Yeah. Another quote, Maricio said, I'm emotionally exhausted. And you probably, I'm curious to start to see that in the next episodes where you go in, there's some success in of,

we're doing the show, what a fun challenge, and then the fatigue sets in physically, emotionally, drama starts happening relationally. Like, oh, man. You start seeing people snap. It just gets interesting. It's like all of those things that you try to vary in control, tempers, anger,

is emotion, vulnerability. When you get exhausted like that, they start coming to the surface. A couple comments from the previous episode. Okay. DRMTJ said that these podcasts are so good. I so appreciate your take on this. Hope that Colin Gosland does well. I watched their show in the beginning and lost interest.

He has been through so much. which I also have to Albert as well in Candice. But then we had a question. She says, let's see, curious. I'm trying to find who wrote this. Curious. Oh, this is Sue Maxwell. How many days do you actually spend there?

I thought it was 14, but it seems like this season. I heard someone say seven to 10 days. Thank you. I think every season is different. I remember the very first. season that they ever did was in Dubai, I think. And I almost did that season. I almost did that season. And that one was longer. That was like 14 days in the course. So the course is whenever you start watching, right? So day one, they're in the barracks. They're getting kidnapped out. They're

one up. So the course, I think, has varied between like 10 to 14 days. I don't know how many days this one is, we'll have to wait and see. And then you basically cushion that with an extra three days. And the extra three days is like travel and interviews. It does depend on the location. And also probably how the recruits do along the way. Because if, say, George Santos gets off, he's pretty much on a plane in the next 10 hours. It happens quick. Eagle, sea life says, The show needs to go two hours instead of four or five minutes. Amen. I agree.

We just got to keep following and they got to get more traction. They got to get more viewers. But the amount of character development and the other challenges that you're not seeing need to be seen. Last one. Michelle says that this group of competitors are not as motivated as your season. We had a really good cast. We had a really strong set of people who were all the. very determined and we bonded so fast that we were like pulling each other along which was really nice

yeah yeah this is fun i'm excited for next week already i love this show thank you all for tuning in if you're made it this far then please give the show a rating and subscribe to it on whatever platform you're on and we'll see you next week i'm me andrew until next time