Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 119 - Watch Out Franco It's Allegiant

Episode Date: March 30, 2016

It's the episode you've been waiting for, Jesse and Crendor review Allegiant. Get ready for Jesse to say "literally" 1200000 times, because he LITERALLY cannot comprehend this movie......

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Ah! That's a deserved weird laugh and slap because... Yeah. Guys, guys. I have yet to see Zootopia. I have yet to see Zootopia. I have yet to see Cloverfield Lane. I, instead, I haven't seen Batman v Superman yet. Instead, I've seen Allegiant.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yep. The new Divergent movie. The movie we've been waiting for. I don't, see, here's the thing. Yeah. the movie we've been waiting for i don't see here's the thing yeah i'm i know that we've been waiting for it but now that i've seen it i'm insulted that i went that i like had it on my i feel that i feel that way too like i'm angered that i was like oh i can't wait for this one it's gonna be so stupid like anyway before we get into the movie Yeah To really put a crown on this experience While the theater
Starting point is 00:01:29 When I left, the movie had just ended I needed to get to the parking garage And this mall is an outdoor mall And so the only way you can get to the parking garage Is by winding around this corner And going down this path behind the mall Basically That path and that part of the mall
Starting point is 00:01:44 Were all cut off because they were filming a movie. So I was stuck there for 25 minutes while they had extras walking back and forth along that pathway. And they were filming a movie and I was like, shut up. I just want to go home. This is so dumb.
Starting point is 00:02:00 It is 5 o'clock in the afternoon. I just want to go home. And I had to sit there and wait. It is 5 o'clock in the afternoon. I just want to go home. And I had to sit there and wait. It was a Christmas movie being filmed in March in LA. And so I went to one of the crew guys and was like, what the hell is this for? And he's like, yeah, it's for a movie called
Starting point is 00:02:16 Why Him? It's about a dad who doesn't like his daughter's rich boyfriend. Of course. I was like, oh, great, great. So I looked it up because I had time to kill. It's a James Franco and Bryan Cran Of course. I was like, oh, great, great. So I looked it up because I had time to kill. It's a James Franco and Bryan Cranston movie. I was like, shut. A Christmas movie?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yes. And I was, it may not be Christmas, but I know there's a Christmas scene because they set everything up to make it look like it was Christmas. I see. And so I was like, shut up. So I want to start beef with James Franco. Franco, I want to start beef with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Come on our show. Come on our show. Talk with us. Promote it. Yeah, promote your movie. I'll talk about how one day you held me up for 25 minutes. It'll be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And then in the theater, did you see it with a crowd? It was an average because it was like 1045 at night. Oh, well, I saw it at three in the afternoon, and the crowd was me, two girls with multicolored hair, a family of maybe like six young tween girls, and an old man by himself. The old man, here's the thing. At first I was like, oh, well, I guess he's kind of like me. But then I was like, wait, I'm doing this for a podcast. Why is he here?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Maybe he's got a podcast. Maybe he does. But I had this weird realization that as I looked around the room, it was just us. I was like, I'm going to watch this guy. Because the movie theater, when the movie started, it was like, hey, see something, say something. Watch out for someone.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I was like, wow, why would you say that, theater? Now I'm horrified. So the entire movie, I kept looking over at that guy because he had a really long jacket on. I was like, mm-mm, mm-mm. I don't want a profile. But older, really skinny, squirrely guys with long black jackets,
Starting point is 00:04:07 I think you're going to kill someone. I'm convinced you're a shooter. Convinced of it. And this guy was like... Oh, he's from the Matrix. That's true. This guy was like in his late 50s wearing a long black jacket. I was like, oh no.
Starting point is 00:04:21 All he needed was like a ranger hat. Yeah, I was like, he's probably hiding out from the feds. I don't know what was going on oh, no. All I needed was like a ranger hat. Yeah, I was like, mm-mm. He was probably hiding out from the feds. I don't know what was going on with that guy. It's like, they'll never look here. But that was my movie-going experience. All right, anyway, let's talk about this movie. Let's get into the third Divergent movie. Third of four.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Wait, third of four? I thought there four i thought there's oh there's three wait you thought this is the last one yeah no bro there's another one coming wait hold on yes oh yes divergent movies what i like i have to look this up there's four divergent four just got hit with some bad news oh are they not gonna make it the very uh apparently apparently compared to its fellow dystopian teen sci-fi drama the hunger games it doesn't quite measure up the first two movies were successful but not that successful while jennifer jennifer lawrence fronted franchise generally received positive reviews. Critics were not so kind to Divergent. So apparently it took in just north of $29 million over its opening
Starting point is 00:05:32 weekend. That's the lowest in the franchise by far. Divergent earned $54 million. Insurgent was $52 million. So pretty much half of what it's been making. That's also because it's half of a movie but uh what i mean what are they gonna make another one i mean uh i don't know all right well here's the
Starting point is 00:05:53 deal they i hope they don't they intended to make one and it definitely shows on the screen because as i watched this movie i had the realization nothing happens. It is a two-hour movie in which nothing occurs. There's so many parts where you're just bored. That's exactly how I felt. The other ones, I was like, this is so crazy. What's going on? This doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:06:19 This is wild. This one, literally nothing happened. Yeah. Nothing happened in this movie. If anything, the end of the movie put us right back where the end of the second movie was. Literally, the things that occurred in this movie had no consequence on anything. The only thing that happened is at the end, instead of destroying one wall, they destroyed another wall. They were like, yeah, we took down another wall.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But they're literally right back where they were. There is no difference between the ending of the second movie and the ending of this movie. None. None. Because even in the end of the second movie, they're like, yeah, we're all united. We stopped whatever her name was from Titanic, and now we're totally united. And this one, the entire time they're fighting and doing all this stuff, and at the end they're like, yeah, we're united. It's like, wait, hundreds of people have died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 The Allegiant faction and this other group led by Thor's mom slash sister wife, literally, you murdered all these these people they gunned down innocent people at the end they're like we stand united uh-uh nope nope the woman tried to gas a city tried to gas a city yeah which we need to talk about because that made no effing sense but anyway like oh god where do you even start with this movie so much there's so much wrong with this movie apparently uh lion whatever studios has cut their budget for the ascendant movie so uh it'll it seems like it'll still get made but with a far less budget which i think might actually want to see quality i actually want to see what that movie looks like yeah it's like all green screen like it's like someone's house i just yeah i just want to see what that looks like because i imagine
Starting point is 00:08:12 it will be terrible um where do we even start so this one oh yeah can i just say yeah as like this movie was starting all of the other like young adult movies just blended in together and i was like wait is this the one where oh wait no that was hunger game so wait is this the oh wait no that was uh maze runner wait this is oh yeah this is that guy yes i had the exact i had the exact same epiphany uh at the very beginning when they started talking about the wastes and like the fringe or whatever they call it in this one i had the thought i was like wait so is this where when this left off is that when they came and they uh took the girl because she betrayed them and i was like oh no wait that was maze runner yeah i was like hold on yeah like, yeah, this is where they like,
Starting point is 00:09:05 they got, she shot herself and now they're out. And I was like, Oh wait, yeah, that's maze runner. That was the, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Here's the thing. I'm going to say it now. Maze runner, better franchise. It's a lot better. Maze runner is a lot better. It's that same, like young adult feel,
Starting point is 00:09:20 but the plot and like the, like everything just keeps you interested. Maze runner is, yeah, it interested maze runner is yeah it doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense it's nonsensical gibberish but it's at least entertaining yeah this was i i'll you look i'm gonna put this on the lead actress she's so uninteresting she is i know that she's the fault in our girl, and everyone's like, oh, she was so good in that movie. I've never seen it. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:09:50 The only thing I've seen her in is this franchise, and she is, like, going through the paces. There's a scene where they're being chased and being shot at, and Four is running... Go watch this movie. I'm gonna tell you right now. Go watch this movie. Pay however much it is.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Sit through it and suffer through it just so you can see the scene. Yeah. Four is shooting behind her as she's running, as they're trying to get to the fence, as the thing's about to explode. The bad guys are shooting. The crowd's exploding. Four's face is like, oh, my God. Look at the main character's face. Tris's face is literally just it looks like
Starting point is 00:10:26 she's going for a jog yeah she has zero emotion in that scene it's like you're being shot at you're being yeah she just looks like she's jogging like nope just gotta get through this scene gotta get my payday you're the worst oh my god so like, it starts out where I guess that, that sister, wife, mom shot the villain lady from the other movie, right? Yes. The chick from Titanic. She killed her and took over. And what we find out is that they've shut off the, even though, even though they opened
Starting point is 00:10:59 the fence at the end of the last movie and the end of the movie was like, we're going to have a bright new tomorrow, and we're all gonna go, and it shows all these people walking towards the fence, and it's like real hopeful, like, yeah, we're gonna find out what's out there. The opening of the movie literally is the closing of the fence, and a voiceover that's like, according to
Starting point is 00:11:17 Evelyn, I guess is her name, Evelyn wants the fence closed. And that's the, it's like, wait, what? It's like, we just got, we're just able to go outside. Why do you want it closed? And then she's like, nope, we've got to hold trials. And we've got to hold people accountable. We've got to restore order.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Then we can go look. And of course, Tristan and Thor are like, no, what the hell? And then you get, I don't, so basically. That's a dumb quote about a wall. They're like, walls sometimes are meant to keep people in rather than protect them. It's like, what? That's the whole point of a wall. It's like you'd protect shit.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I don't know. So Evelyn's crazy guy, who I think is the guy from the train in the second one. Remember when they had the train fight? Yeah. And they beat up like 16 dudes. I think that's her kid too? It's not her son. It's just like a guy who she has around.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's like taken over for Macklemore. Yeah, basically he's the Macklemore character. The problem is Macklemore's character. We don't know any of these actors' names. Macklemore's character, he was at least threatening. This guy is on screen every time he's on screen he gets beat up he's like wimpy Macklemore
Starting point is 00:12:31 no matter what happens he chases them down and gets hit by like lasers he gets punched in the face he gets like drop kicked at the end he gets like he's like gets punched and stomped on by four. He does.
Starting point is 00:12:46 He serves no purpose in this movie except to be like, I'm going to get you punched to the face. Like, why is he here? Mm hmm. Um, so yeah, they're doing the trial and the trial is basically executions.
Starting point is 00:12:58 They're just killing people, but the trial. Okay. The trial was already stupid. They're like, here's this guy that was part of the, like, regime or whatever. And they, like, put the truth thing in. He's like, people are like sheep.
Starting point is 00:13:07 We need to herd them and be the shepherds. And they're just like, kill them, kill them. But they're like, no, don't kill them. I'm like, I mean, whatever. I don't care. Kill them, put them in prison. I don't give a shit. Here's the thing that I thought was really great.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Is they clearly panned to the people in the crowd who were like no we are better than them yeah and you definitely could see what they were trying to do but they made it so on the nose like the first half of this movie is so on the nose it's unbearable like no we are better than them don't do it And everyone else was like I thought it was like a Trump rally And the crazy thing is Is that the The guy who
Starting point is 00:13:55 Was from Lost I don't remember his name The Asian dude from Lost He who's from the truth faction Or the law and order faction The truth will set you free Even though they're like there are no more factions And I'm factionless the truth faction. Yeah. Or the law and order faction. The truth will set you free. Yeah. Even though they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:07 there are no more factions and I'm factionless, we're all factionless now, we're going to have a new society, they still use all the technology. He's like, now I'm going to put this truth serum in you because while I hold a trial, we can just get the truth.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And he's still technically being categorized because he's part of the court system. Absolutely. It's crazy. And so they just start executing people, and Triss and Four are just like, we can't do this. So they get the hot Asian chick
Starting point is 00:14:33 and Lenny Kravitz's daughter, and then they go and they steal away Triss's brother, who is going to be executed, and that's when fake Macklemore, wannabe Macklemore. to be like fake they fake execute him too he's like oh get rid of him he's like if i was a guard i've been like you could have just shot the ground i'd rather i just see for myself yes yes they're very bad but they're like i guess you're evelyn's son so whatever yeah and they set up an elaborate escape attempt Which is basically Somehow
Starting point is 00:15:06 As Triss Four and her brother Are leaving Dark haired Malfoy aka the best actor in this movie That dude Was in The movie with the drums He's an amazing actor
Starting point is 00:15:22 The best actor in this movie They give him nothing to do like he's like a shitty han solo yes all of his character choices are like hey man hey david how's it going you want to like help okay okay buddy i'll talk to you later like they give him nothing to do they're like you can be a monitor you can do he's like i just want the penthouse suite, man. He's the best actor in the movie. Gave him nothing to do. Nothing. So the problem is that the three of them try to escape.
Starting point is 00:15:51 He shows up and he's like, hey, either take me with you or I'm going to shout. And they're like, okay, come on. Jump on in. So he gets to go too. They get to a checkpoint and they're like, where's your paperwork? And it's real tense. You think it's going to be a firefight? Lenny Kravitz's daughter shows up and is like, here's the paperwork.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I have it. They let them through. They get into the woods in order to climb this wall. And when they get in the woods, they meet the Asian chick with the crazy hair. Yeah. And she has all these weapons and backpacks and shit for them. She brought enough for six people. The six people or five people or however many there were.
Starting point is 00:16:23 She brought enough for everyone. Yet they didn't know half those people, or however many there were. She brought enough for everyone, yet they didn't know half those people were going to be on that trip. It drove me so crazy that there were enough grappling hooks for every single one of them. Yeah. I was like, wait.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Half these people weren't even supposed to be on this trip. Yeah. Like Peter. He just showed up. Peter just shows up. And they're like, here's your gun, here's your grappling hook,
Starting point is 00:16:44 here you go. It's like, wait a minute. That drove me crazy. It's such a small detail, but it drove me crazy. And it's not like she's like Gandalf or something where it's like, yes, I knew by the spiritual powers. Like, she's just some lady. Yeah. And then because she's such an important character, of course, even though she's had maybe three lines in the entire series, she literally does nothing. She's like,
Starting point is 00:17:06 Triss, you're divergent. And then later it's like, I'm gonna help you get to the faction list. She serves... I feel like she was supposed to be Lenny... You know how in Hunger Games Lenny Kravitz was that character who was like, I'm gonna make you look beautiful, but I'm also totally worth the resistance. Like that kind of
Starting point is 00:17:21 stuff? I feel like this was supposed to be that character. The problem is they climb up to the top of the fence. They realize it's electrified. The shootout happens where you see Tris jogging instead of like dodging bullets. Yeah. And then they cut through the fence and they're like, we did it. And then the Asian chicken shot in the head immediately killed.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Like that whole scene. I was like, what the shit is happening? That was like my first moment of like, this is dumb. So like, they grappling hook up the wall, like it's Attack on Titan. And they're just like running up the wall. And then she's like, cut the fence. They like try to cut it and she gets electrified.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And she's like, oh man, it's an electrified fence. Conveniently, the power source is right there. Yes, yes, yes. The power to the entire fence is conveniently right where they climbed up. It's literally a truck with wires going to the fence.
Starting point is 00:18:17 If they had trained tactical, like, surgical strike soldiers, wouldn't they have noticed the giant generator truck with wires leading to the fence that is clearly on because the fence...
Starting point is 00:18:32 Oh my god. They didn't notice the trip wire thing that they ran through when it set off the alarms. So now guards are coming. And then Tris is like, I got this. Yeah. And then she runs over to the truck, which is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 And then Thor follows her with his rope still attached. Somehow he has enough rope to run with her over to a truck and then carry her back up. I don't even know why he carried her. She didn't get hurt or anything. Her rope, she didn't disconnect it. There was no scene where she disconnected it, but it was just gone when she needed to go back up It was gone because it's much more romantic For him to carry her, I guess
Starting point is 00:19:09 I don't know Because that's the first thing I thought I'm like, why is he carrying her? Nothing happened She had her rope, I don't get it So Asian chick gets shot in the head Which is a dumb thing, by the way Again, they get to the top
Starting point is 00:19:25 They cut open the fence like we're free And they just stand there Like they're coming after you Run and then she gets shot And I'm like damn it I wanted the hot Asian one to live Yeah I'm not Pleased with that but one of the things that I noticed Was that
Starting point is 00:19:41 There is no actual bullets In this movie There's not there's no blood Bullets in this movie Yeah There's no blood There's clearly definitely no blood But that's been a thing in the entire franchise But there's no bullets in this movie There's muzzle fire
Starting point is 00:19:57 Especially later on When they get to the place where They have the guns that fire blue lasers There's no actual Muzzle flashes of pew, pew, pew, pew. And you see guys fly back, but there's no impact on their bodies of where they got hit.
Starting point is 00:20:12 There's not even like you got hit by a laser scorch. It's like they're getting shot with air rifles that shoot powerful blasts of air and they're just like... And clearly these weapons have something because they shoot through walls and they shoot through, like they have little eyes. That's oh God.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It's so dumb. It's so dumb. But nothing like when people get hit, they don't actually get hit like blasts. Like they get force pushed away from the gun. It's crazy. It's yeah. So they managed to make it and at first
Starting point is 00:20:48 on the other side of the wall it's bright and green and beautiful and maybe 25 feet away from that is a wasteland. It's essentially a nuclear wasteland that is they literally say
Starting point is 00:21:03 oh yeah, this must be what happened to the entire world. Yeah. old I guess. He's like this could be 200 years old. Yeah I guess it's not radioactive anymore. It could be 200 years. This damage probably happened 200 years ago so totally not radioactive. Yeah. They go out into the wilderness and then as they're running through the red water
Starting point is 00:21:40 and getting red rain poured on them which again all that made better by the fact that the, what's that guy's name, Robert? Yeah, Robert or Peter. Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter, yeah. Except that Peter has some really great lines, really sarcastic, like, oh yeah, thrilled I decided to do this.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like really good, like funny lines that I'm like, all right, this is great. I like where this is going. Yeah. Up to there, it was good like funny lines that i'm like all right this is great i like where this is going yeah the up to there it was like all right this is like it was kind of tolerable i i the beginning it was like the first two yeah all right this is cool then they are going through a canyon and they hear something and tris is like hey it could be someone who's here to help us. Or something similarly stupid. Why would you think that? Why would you think someone's here to help us?
Starting point is 00:22:29 And then over the canyon, in the most ridiculous slow-mo shot. It's like Mad Max. This car jumps over the canyon, and you see it's fake Macklemore, and he just stares at them. And he stops driving, turns his whole body to look at them like,
Starting point is 00:22:46 I see you. I remember that in the movie I legit was like, That out loud. It was amazing. It's a slow-mo shot. And here's the crazy thing. They're out in the fringe. They couldn't have gotten that far.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It's been half a day, maybe. I don't even know. It rained and then stopped. So however long it took for it to rain, then stop. It's been that long. They have all these cars and all these troops
Starting point is 00:23:13 that can go hunt them down. One car with two dudes shows up. Yeah. Fake Macklemore, we'll call him Facklemore, and Facklemore and random black dude show up. Yeah.acklemore and random black dude show up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Instantly, random black dude is killed. Yeah. Instantly. And so they start, our five-man characters start running, and they're like, oh, we got to get out of here. And he's about to run them down. And, of course, a giant portal opens up. And there's a bunch of attack ships and soldiers. They're like, we've been waiting for you.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And Facklemore is just like, what? And they blast his ship or his car. Next thing you know. What? They don't kill him, though. They just blast him. He just gets like three perfectly placed scars on his face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And the next thing you know, they are now whisked away to the future world. That is the Department of Genome genome therapy or something weird like that. Some shit. They're just like, we've been waiting for you and watching you, and we are finally glad you've made it. Oh, and all the kids are fans, and they're like, we watch you, we love you! Yeah. And all the girls are like, hi, four. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And it's a very weird place where Apparently it's in O'Hare Airport yeah it was O'Hare Airport and he's like what's an airport And they get Decontaminated and give a new Clothes and then immediately split Up and they get the stamps on their Wrists oh yeah yeah and so
Starting point is 00:24:39 Tris is pure Tris is like she's A pure she's a pure person Whatever the hell that means It's not even divergence anymore You become a pure You ascend from like a normal person To a divergent to a pure
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yes because she even says in the movie Thor is divergent All these other people are divergent And the guy's like he's not pure though Which I still don't understand. Again, it's one of those, out of all the ones, she's the most the one. Yeah. And then you find out later on that the nerdy guy who's kind of David's assistant is also pure.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. So the question is, is everyone there pure? I don't know because i thought that yeah he's pure too yeah in the end they make the statement like it's the damaged versus the pure i was like wait everyone back in the genome therapy place was pure i i don't know but like they also like it doesn't make any like i watched that little video they got right we're like welcome to blah blah blah, blah. Yes. So, when they go through decontamination, they have a tutorial video that explains everything to them.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Because why put that in the story? Let's just get it out of the way. Yeah. They're like, you, like, humanity was destroyed because they started perfecting, like, genes. was destroyed because they started perfecting like genes and so people started picking their genes like i want to be a cool football star and i want to be really social and blah blah and then that backfired and everyone went crazy well what happened was apparently is that everyone tried to purify themselves and all it did was make people have more divisions, which I think they're trying to say
Starting point is 00:26:27 white people became whiter and Asians became Asian-ier. I don't know what it means. It's such fuzzy logic that people just decided, yes, I've made myself the perfect human
Starting point is 00:26:44 thus I will destroy all other humans. So war broke out and they nuked the planet because that's what would happen. Yeah, you would think they'd be like, if they were like genetically modifying themselves, they'd make themselves smart enough to be like, yeah, we shouldn't nuke each other. That'd be stupid. stupid somehow chicago and areas surrounding chicago yeah managed to avoid the catastrophe and or were purified somehow because chicago would definitely be nuked in a war yeah so and clearly it was because there's fallout everywhere except for the main hub of downtown chicago and o'hare airport And the train still works. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:26 For some reason. And you know what? The train's probably powered by one of those damn trucks, if you think about it. It's made in the 80s. That's why. Yeah, it's truck powered. And then there's a city called Providence,
Starting point is 00:27:37 which is pure city as it's labeled. But other than that, I don't know that anything else is out there. Either way, this O'Hare Airport Genome Therapy place is, like, except for the top floor, which is very futuristic, everything else looks like a military camp. Yeah. And so immediately they're like, oh, well, this seems good. No!
Starting point is 00:28:01 There's nothing good about this scenario. Yeah. It's clear that everyone... And all of them are like, this is cool. Well, like, take that and go to Maze Runner, where where they were all like this is some sketchy shit going on right they're like hold immediately they're like this is not right this is not right at all this it takes them the longest time to figure out that something's up so it's so trist doesn't even figure it out till like an hour and a half later tris doesn't figure it out till it's revealed right in front of her yeah until they basically tell her the plot of the movie like someone comes on here to me she sounds pretty stupid yeah someone someone comes on set it's like part of the movie
Starting point is 00:28:37 just the guy walks on he's like no tris this is this is not at all true like that would be better than what happened yeah if just a director walks on he's like no no he's lying to you dear that's what's happening she's like what that'd be a better twist than what we got it would so she gets to like she's special and she gets to go up to david and david is the director of this facility and he basically says your mom and i gets to go up to David and David is the director of this facility and he basically says your mom and I used to work together she went into the not simulation
Starting point is 00:29:13 that would be more maze runner whatever the hell this is the test the the genome project or whatever yeah she went in and that's why you exist. And if I can just tell the people who run this thing that it worked out, it's amazing and we can save your friends back there and everyone will be fine.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And she, of course, buys into this because he gives her some crazy head vision thing. And she's like, oh, okay, well, that must be true. Lady, lady, you don't know this guy. He gave you weird head visions. It doesn't mean that it's real They say they can monitor you And they see everything you do So clearly he understands you love your mom tremendously And you're obsessed with your mom
Starting point is 00:29:53 So why wouldn't he manipulate you Whatever, you're an idiot That was legit, my first thought was like, this could be fake This is definitely fake Here's the thing, they never once explained if it was real or fake Yeah Never once. Even when Triss eventually questions, like, my mom, why would she go in there?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Also, how did you get her into the city without people realizing that she... Like, she was a major player in that faction. Yeah. How did people not be like, where did you come from? Because when she left, she was clearly an adult. She didn't show up as a kid. She was clearly an adult when she left to infiltrate that thing. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. So why didn't nobody question it?
Starting point is 00:30:32 And Trist questions this, and David's like, ah, don't be stupid. That's basically what happened. Don't be stupid, idiot. Don't be stupid, you idiot. And so she's caught in this world where they're testing her, and they're going to take her to Providence, and they're going to present her to the council and all that crap. Meanwhile, Peter and her brother are on sentry duty where they just monitor Chicago,
Starting point is 00:31:01 and at this point Chicago has broken out into a civil war. Chicago, and at this point Chicago has broken out into a civil war. There's the Allegiant, which is run by the Amity faction leader, and they're basically like, we want the factions back. It worked before, it can work again. And then
Starting point is 00:31:16 there's the faction list that's led by Evelyn, and she's like, I'm gonna kill everyone. And she literally does. She murders innocent people. A war has broken out. Again, keep that in mind for the ending. She's murdered.
Starting point is 00:31:31 There's corpses everywhere. And this is the reason why the Allegiant Woman is like, we have to take the fight to them. I'm done with this. This is our last charge. We're not going to go down without a fight. Keep that in mind for the end because that's literally the stakes that are – I've said literally so many times in this damn episode because it's literally mind-boggling, this movie. My mind is boggled.
Starting point is 00:31:55 So anyway, Peter and the brother are stuck on watch duty. So there are eyes letting us see what's going on in Chicago. Meanwhile, Four and Lenny Kravitz's daughter are put on essentially soldier duty? Which is what most of the people are there, soldiers. Yeah. And that's when we learn that there's future weapons
Starting point is 00:32:17 and they have little discs that fly around and let them see and protect them and shield them and all sorts of crap. They introduce a new character, a new female character, who I think has four lines the entire movie. And in the first half of this movie, seems like a really important character. Yeah. Offers nothing to the plot.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Literally nothing. I don't know what she's there for. She also brings up the weird problem of the nerdy guy who's with David and this woman. They both help them when they try to escape at the end, but they never explain why they're helping. She just goes, some of us don't like David. Why? Why don't you like David?
Starting point is 00:32:59 There's no explanation for any of it. They just decide to help. And they like, like, I feel like they were people that were taken and, like, trained up. But in that case, they would be part of the system, right? And they would also be brainwashed. Yeah, they're brainwashed. And that's something that drove me crazy, too. So eventually, Four and Lenny Kravitz's daughter go out to help them rescue kids.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And this goes back to when Triss's mom was rescued by David's forces earlier on. And it's revealed that the kids aren't rescued. They're just taken from their parents out in the wilderness. And there's a whole bunch of people who live out in the wastes. So it may not be radioactive at all. And these kids just get like parents get killed. The kids get
Starting point is 00:33:39 taken. And Thor is just like what's going on here? This isn't right. It took you that long to figure it out you're kidnapping kids he helps kidnap a kid and he's like this isn't right yeah i was just like yeah this is so obvious oh my god speaking of which so like his sidekick right or uh sidekick right or a sidekick right david's sidekick guy yeah he like he was just such a bad character like first off he had no no no he had no development that was a character that existed only to guide tris back and forth from an elevator and then in the end be like four i'm here to help you why why are you there to help who are you there is he had
Starting point is 00:34:27 like three different weird phases of like why is this happen the first one was like the elevator stuff and he's like checking Tris out like hmm yeah and then he like secretly sneaks away in the elevator and she does like a close-up of his eyes as he leaves her behind evil grin and you're like oh is this the bad guy yeah he's like the evil grin. And you're like, ooh, is this the bad guy? Yeah, he's, like, the evil grin, like, yeah, we're getting you. And then the next time you see him, he's like, hey, everybody. I'm like, what? That doesn't make any sense. Oh, God, this movie.
Starting point is 00:34:56 This movie. Like, I almost thought at first he was going to be the guy that's kind of, like, he wants to get with her. And so that's why he's, like, doing this. He's like, hey, how you doing, Triss? But then he does the evil glare. And I'm like, oh, shit, he's evil. He's helping David. He's like his little sidekick minion guy.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But then he's like, oh, like David, here's whatever. And I'm like, what? What? It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense. So Triss is going to go off to Providence And she's going to go off with David And Forbes grabs One of his assistant ladies
Starting point is 00:35:28 Goes up to the elevator Goes up to the top floor Bursts in and is like Tris You have to listen to me David's lying to you and she's like I don't believe you I'm going to Providence He's like no Tris If you love him and you know him for that long
Starting point is 00:35:44 And you've been through some crazy Tris if you love him and you know him for that long and you have been through some crazy shit wouldn't you trust him more than this guy you just met who is taking people you've never met like especially if you're the most pure and like smartest right like I don't even know what pure means anymore well like what does it
Starting point is 00:36:02 mean well this is what I thought was gonna happen so the way they talk about pure in this movie is that all the factions were created because the damaged are lacking. All these genetic experiments that were done, the damaged, as they're called, were, for example, if you were genetically altered to have more empathy, you became so empathetic that it made you gullible. Right? Or if you were altered to be more like physically aggressive, it made you so aggressive you became like instantly a soldier. Right? And so that's why all these factions were created.
Starting point is 00:36:36 So all the damage would have a place to be. That's the way they set it up when they described it. At least that's what I got out of it. So my assumption at that point was like, oh, this explains Triss and how she can conquer everything. But it also explains why some of the characters were a little more aggressive, why Peter is kind of a dick, right? Why he constantly betrays them, why her brother so quickly sided with the enemy. I was like, oh, that explains all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's kind of cool. And I was like, oh, what does that mean, though, for all these characters then? Is Lenny Kravitz's daughter gonna become like a crazy person cause she's super aggressive right is Peter gonna betray them again which spoiler of course he does and I was like oh the brother's probably gonna like
Starting point is 00:37:15 cower and do something stupid oh this is so cool I really for the briefest moment thought ah I get it now I get where this is going. They're damaged because of the genetic mutations, and so that's why everyone's like, oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Nope. Not at all. That is not at all what's happening. And so Triss goes off, and Thor is escorted by the evil soldier guy back to Chicago. And David's lackey's like, I'll go with you. And mid-flight, his lackey's like, we're not going to Chicago. We're going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And then he helps Four escape. They crash. They're the only two who survive. Four's going to walk back to Chicago And this guy's gonna go back And tell Triss when she gets back That Four left him out there And because Four knows Because Triss knows Four would never leave a man behind
Starting point is 00:38:14 She'll know it's a lie Yet somehow She didn't trust him all this other time Right, right, which is crazy So Triss and David End up at this magical future city, and in the future city they meet the council, and the council
Starting point is 00:38:30 is listening to David talk, and they want to hear what Triss has to say, and Triss starts talking about how wouldn't it be better if everyone back in Chicago was safe and they could help them? And then it's revealed, oh, this has nothing to do with Chicago, David runs all of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:38:45 He doesn't need our orders for anything. We're just here because it's a budgetary meeting, and we are just deciding if we're going to give him more money to continue the experiment. Yeah. And Tris is like, what? And so then they have the most awkward flight home where they literally have to sit next to each other. David's like, you don't get it. This is the real world. And Tris just looks out the window all pouty. If I was
Starting point is 00:39:09 Tris, a trained killer, I would have kicked his ass in front of every single one of those council members and been like, no. F this business. Instead she just I'm gonna just sit here and pout on the way home. What? It was just revealed that everything you know is a lie
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah She pouts on her way home It reminded me of like a dad and a daughter Driving like somewhere Right yes exactly She is just It's just revealed that everything she knows is a lie This guy manipulated and used her
Starting point is 00:39:42 And what happens is She pouts on the way home If anything she should should kicked his ass Right there in front of everyone. I don't know clue why that didn't happen. She's like hmm. He's a don't you understand? This is the real world. What does that do with anything? I was like this does I don't get it I don't like and what was like okay, so they're giving him money for this right they're giving him the funding yes and like where are they getting money like where are they getting
Starting point is 00:40:11 the money from future bucks i have no clue i have no clue if this is if anything if this is the future and that's the last remaining city on earth i almost i thought they made it seem like there's other places doing this. Well, I thought they said that Providence was the one place that, I don't know, maybe there's other places, but even if that's the case, if this is a study to save the human
Starting point is 00:40:37 race, why would they even need money for it? Yeah. I don't know. What are they funding? Like, this is, it's kind of like Star Trek. trek in the future they don't have money in star trek they don't have money money doesn't exist everything's just provided for if this is that future why do they need money yeah it doesn't it doesn't make any sense are they gonna trade like who are they trading with there's nobody to trade what is the point of currency in a world where everyone is working together
Starting point is 00:41:06 to save the human race? If you're all if you all have specific tasks what? It doesn't make any sense. It's more just resource management than anything. Yes, when you go to the Genome Project base there is a bottom
Starting point is 00:41:21 floor that has soldiers and a middle floor that has all the like tech stuff and then there's a bottom floor That has soldiers And a middle floor that has all the Like tech stuff And then there's a top floor where David lives There's no I saw no recreational things I saw only things to train So they're not like oh man I can't wait to buy the new
Starting point is 00:41:38 Mjörg Bjorg Sound Album That's what they're calling the future sound albums. There's no one had personal effects. They were all training to be soldiers to save kids. So it doesn't make any sense. There's nothing to buy.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yes, there's nothing to buy in this world. So why does he need money? Yeah. Okay, people that read the book, like, does the book explain that? Or is the book just as stupid? I'm curious. It doesn't make any sense. She takes a long car ride back, meets the guy.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He says to her what he was told to say. She, to his face, goes, Thor would never say that. Or never leave a man behind. He's like, he told me you'd say that. So she immediately grabs her friends and steals the white ship that David drives in order to get back. Oh, my God. That scene bothered me so much. That was one of the most dumb, irking scenes. So like.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Which part? Which part? Where she gets in his ship. She's like, okay, I don't like this. And he's like, okay. She's like, I'm going to take your ship and go find him. And then. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Is that was. Was this now or later? I don't even know. I don't even care. She's like, I'm going to. She takes takes his ship but she just takes it yeah like she just takes it she takes it and he says he says you don't you don't even know how to fly and she's like i'll figure it out jumps in it presses a few buttons flies away he's like wait you have no knowledge of how to use this technology and he doesn't even put up a
Starting point is 00:43:25 struggle to like stop her or anything like if i was like a person running over this entire facility and there's my ship outside i would have a lock that only i could get outside especially if it's the only ship that can leave the barrier yeah like she would go up she just scans like oh i'm a pure mine wouldn't be like oh, it doesn't matter if you're pure It's only me only I get to go out there. Yeah, like why wouldn't he do that? It doesn't make any especially when he's like a mastermind with all this other shit It doesn't make any sense at all at all so she and her friends Escape and this is when this is when the girl who they just met helps her for no reason
Starting point is 00:44:04 She gives her like guns and shit. Makes no sense. Like, wait a minute. Why? Why would you help them? Who are you? We just met you. We have no background information on you.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. If anything, I thought you were going to be a bad guy like the other guy. The two of you, both at the beginning of this movie, gave our heroes the most evil eye I've ever seen. And in the end, you were like, but we're on your side. It would be great if there was a plot twist where we thought you were evil the entire time. We've met you twice, maybe. We know nothing about your characters. Who are you people?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Also, then there's four who's, like, walking back in the most dramatic, like, blood rainstorm. Yes, there's four who's like walking back in the most dramatic like blood rainstorm. Yes, there's blood rain. He has a like he has a rib cage gash like a gash in his stomach. He's stumbling back to the desert covered in blood rain. This radioactive blood rain. He's like they should have just played the Terminator theme songs. He did like. They should have just played the Terminator theme song as he did it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Like, ba-da-da! Do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do. And then, when he fights people, it makes it seem like he's Batman. Or some shit he's like, oh, Batman. He's unbeatable. He is beat up. He is beat up for the last half of this movie. And continues to take on six, seven guys at once.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, trained soldiers. Trained factionless and dauntless soldiers. He just beats up. He gives no shits. So he goes back, and while that's happening, and he goes back to convince his mom that the war needs to end because there's another group out there, Peter gets sent back by David, finally acknowledging his presence.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Through the whole movie, Peter's been like, David, finally acknowledging his presence. Through the whole movie, Peter's been like, David, buddy, hey, alright, see you later. Gets sent back to convince the mom that she should use what was discovered earlier in the movie, that when they kidnap kids,
Starting point is 00:45:59 they use a gas that makes them forget their memory. They lose their memory, and that's how they're able to raise these kids out of the fringe and keep them loyal soldiers. And so apparently there's a bunch in Chicago. I don't know why the chick from the other movie, from Titanic, didn't use it. Yeah, I thought that too. Did she not have contact with David? Well, I guess this could be the reason why everyone forgot that the mom was new.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Maybe they did it before to people? I don't know. I don't know, but it seems crazy that would happen at some point that thought the mom was like friends with david i was like oh shit maybe she knows david maybe she's like maybe she has something against david she's like we're not going out there well i mean tris's mom when tris's mom infiltrated tris's mom maybe they maybe they used it on everyone then? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Like, it doesn't make any sense. Because they have, like, the infrastructure set up to where it's going to gas the city. Yes, they finally explain what all those damn fans are throughout the entire city. Yeah. All those giant air conditioning fans that exist in the city are just there to pump out the gas. Yeah. I was like, oh, well, that's, all right, that's kind of, that explains something. That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. But, yeah, so Peter goes back convinces Evelyn that she should gas everyone That way Amity will Join them and Everything will be cool but apparently she Thinks only the Allegiant people are going to be gassed But really Peter and
Starting point is 00:47:42 David are gassing the entire city I don't even know I don't know why she wouldn't think it would be Like it wouldn't be If you're going to gas everything How are your people not going to get gassed as well Also let's talk about How is
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh my god Alright so Tris and her brother and Lenny Kravitz's daughter All go back to save four in Chicago and the mom and Peter set off the gas and
Starting point is 00:48:11 they immediately beat up Faklemore and he's not even there to stop them they sneak in, they get to the very top they get to a door that is keeping Peter and the mom inside, protect them from the gas.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And they're like, mom, please, you have to turn it off. They're going to gas everyone. Meanwhile, gas is seeping through everywhere. Yeah. My problem with this gas is that it only stays at floor level. Yeah. The gas is seeping through vents and just going down. So it's like water.
Starting point is 00:48:47 It's not like gas where it's rising up. It's just filling up rooms. So it's like at their ankles, like, oh, no, the gas is going to get us. The gas is seeping into the atmosphere outside. It's just people are running away from it. They're like, oh, no, not the gas. There's a part where I think it's the brother. The brother runs to meet them once he figures out how to stop the gas.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And a guy with a gun charges at him. The brother throws the dude into a wall of gas. There's gas that just made a wall. It's not moving. It's just like a gas wall. The gas would be filling up that room. Why is it not doing that? I know.
Starting point is 00:49:28 The gas is seeping through everything, and people are just running away from it. The gas would rise up. It wouldn't just... What kind of gas did they create? This is the worst gas that ever existed. That's so dumb. If the purpose of your experiment is to do it over and over and over again, like apparently it has been done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And you need to gas people repeatedly in order to start things over. Wouldn't it be much better to have a gas that immediately like rises up into someone's face? They suck it in rather than have it be this toxic ooze looking shit that sticks at their feet that takes hours for it to rise up to their head. People are out running gas. You would think that scientists that have done this experiment over and over would be like, you know what? We need that gas to rise. Yeah, we need that gas to go a lot
Starting point is 00:50:16 faster. It is that the gas hits 100% and then it starts as a liquid, hits 100%, turns into a gas that is a liquid likeits 100% Turns into a gas That is a liquid like gas It is the most ineffectual way To knock out a population I have ever seen
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yeah The gas is seeping through vents So eventually It turns out that David betrayed Peter And the mom Even though Peter shoots the mom in order to keep the gas going Yeah Turns out the gas is going gonna seep into this room
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, the gas starts seeping through the floor, but instead of it being like gas shooting up It's like like bubbling through the floor the mom is laying on the floor wounded Still doesn't get hit by the gas the gas has a gas could go go in through her wounds. The gas didn't even make it to her. The gas is so slow. It literally just oozes up and sort of slinks its way over to her. It's so slow that Peter has time to go to the door, open the door, have a stare down before who's like, I'm going to get you, Peter. Peter's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:27 whatever. And he has time to sneak out of the room as gas is still coming up. He has time to leave the room, go down a hallway and run through, get more gas and escape. He runs through gas, Crandor. He runs through the city.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, he runs. He escapes the city he runs through the city yeah he runs like the city after it's been gas everyone escapes no one is apparently like three people actually get hit by the gas like some of them are coughing but i'm like okay so they're coughing they breathe how much gas do you need to like confuse like do they have to like like really inhale it or like i was convinced i was convinced that the the episode four the fourth movie would be about the fact that most of the people in this city lost their memories i was so convinced that not the case at all no one gets hit by this gas this gas does nothing it is seeping from skyscrapers. Alright, here's the thing. Yeah. The skyscrapers that have those turbines are shooting it out,
Starting point is 00:52:28 right? So this is heavy gas and it's falling down. It would fall down on the people and they'd inhale it. Yeah. That doesn't happen either. The gas just avoids people. The gas goes around human beings. The gas is like, ew, no, I don't want to touch
Starting point is 00:52:44 you. The gas avoids people ew, no, I don't want to touch you. The gas avoids people to the point where, again, Peter escapes for the brother, Lenny Kravitz, and Triss manage to get into the room,
Starting point is 00:53:00 lift up the mom, go over to the panel, start typing in stuff into the panel, figure out where they need to go. Tris goes down a floor panel, goes into an underground tunnel, is blocked off by David, finds another path, is blocked off by David again, shoots through a wall, destroys the gas. In that time, everyone should have been brainwiped.
Starting point is 00:53:26 How is it possible? It was a sealed room. It was a sealed room. If gas seeped into that sealed room, they would all, she'd come back into that room and they'd all be like, who are you? Yeah. There is no way any of that happened. It was so crazy. I can't even begin to tell you how awful that was it was really stupid
Starting point is 00:53:47 that was one of the dumbest things I've seen and I've seen a lot of dumb things I've seen a talking cat alright and that made more sense than this and of course David is like no at the end and then Triss leaves a message for the city that is like we we're going to all unite and we're going to fight back and we're going to stop them.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Just you wait. And then it has the Allegiant woman who was from Ebony and Evelyn standing side by side like we're best friends now. You just wasted Civil War. People died. And she got shot. How'd she get better? She had a bandage on her leg, so clearly she was fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, they walk up to the roof. They look out as they send the white ship that was David's back to the gate. As Peter's there, like, let me in. Come on. They blow up the invisible wall that reveals the city. And then they're like, yeah, we're going to teach them what's what. End of movie. Well, they send out the shit that blows up the wall,
Starting point is 00:54:57 and then you can kind of see outside. Like, they didn't even blow up that much of the wall. They blew up enough to be like, oh, look, there's red shit out there. Yeah, they're like, now we can go back and fight them. She doesn't think it's like, they think it's pure versus damage, but we're just good people or some bullshit. And Peter manages to get back through the fence. And David's like, I'm going to get you. And at the end, it's him watching her, like standing next to her, watching her give her speech. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:55:24 That's how it ends. It then starts immediately into credits. Like, see you in the next one. Yeah, when that ended, I was like, wait, what? What? Yeah. What? It has Triss staring off into the distance with four, like, yeah, we did it.
Starting point is 00:55:37 And then it pans to David really quickly and does like a dun-dun-dun, and then immediately credits. Like, there isn't even a pause. The credits appear from their bodies. Yeah. The credits shoot out of their bodies. There isn't even a black screen. It's just credits.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Immediate credits. It didn't even feel like it was about to end. It felt like it just ended randomly. I'm like, wait, what? And that brings us to the whole point that this is a movie that literally did not need to be made. It ended the exact same way that the previous movie ended with everyone uniting and going off to go see what's in the outside world. Except this time, everyone united in order to go fight the outside world. All they did was learn the outside world, we probably should bring the military.
Starting point is 00:56:24 No shit, you should have done it to begin with yeah it does it it's unnecessary this was an unnecessary movie they could have just skipped this one and went right to the other one and been done with it also with like david being next to them and stuff like they had that those like machines right with that lady built she's like i built the machines yeah and they like scout out chicago and whatever i don't even get how that works so like they're they're looking at everything right but then they can put themselves there and then they can look around but then her brother's like i'm going in so he actually appears there and i'm like how'd you get there how did he get there another thing that's amazing is so later in the movie after tris being told she can't fly and then somehow learning to fly
Starting point is 00:57:12 when the autopilot is turned off later in the movie her brother who is in that ship is like don't worry i'm going in he now can fly the ship and flies it to save Tristan, everyone. It's like, whoa, wait, what? How can he fly now? Yeah, it's... It doesn't make any sense. And then, apparently, from what I've read everywhere, she dies in the book. Like, she's supposed to die in this book and this movie.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But she doesn't die What? That's what everybody's been saying Like in the book Like the Allegiant book She dies Well maybe that's the fourth movie No
Starting point is 00:57:54 Everyone's like she dies in this book And apparently No but the fourth movie is The second half of the book Right? Oh maybe Hold on Oh is it?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Allegiant Yeah She's supposed to die at the end half of the book, right? Oh, maybe. Oh, is it? Yeah, she's supposed to die at the end. I like how we're immediately just spoiling this for anyone who would have given a damn. Nobody cares. Alright, hold on. Tris's brother, Caleb, is put on trial. Tris and Four are tested by Matthew and Nita
Starting point is 00:58:21 to verify and study their divergence. What? That definitely didn't happen. Tris is shown to be truly divergent, but Four's genetic structure four tested by matthew and nita to verify and study their divergence what this that definitely didn't happen this is shown to be truly divergent but for his genetic structure indicates his genes are still damaged so in the book it looks like they went through trials in the movie it was literally just david being like no he's damaged yeah matthew brings tris oh matth Matthew's the nerdy guy I guess Okay David gives Tris Her mother's journal Oh so in the book it was a journal Not the weird head things
Starting point is 00:58:51 Nita is the new girl Four is secretly asked to join a rebellion Led by Nita What? What? That definitely didn't happen That definitely did not happen That definitely did not happen Four That definitely did not happen.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Four secretly asks to join a rebellion led by Nita, who is also genetically damaged. She tells him that the Bureau is lying and that they say genetic damage is the cause of society's problems. She intends to demonstrate that the genetically pure are flawed as well. Four tells Triss the plan, despite Nita's warning to keep it a secret. Nita and her allies attack the compound, severely injuring Uriah, whoever the hell that is. Triss saves David from being shot by Nita and stops the attack. Nita is in prison for her crimes. Uh, none of that happened in this movie.
Starting point is 00:59:38 No. Absolutely zero. That would have made this movie incredibly entertaining. That is not what this movie was. So boring. Still bad, but far more entertaining. And then, does it say she dies then? No, it says Triss confronts
Starting point is 00:59:54 Thor and ends their relationship. Triss is offered a position on the Bureau's Council and is told of the events taking place within the city, including Allegiant's preparations for war with Evelyn and the Factionless. David is desperate to stop the violence and maintain his life's work, even at the expense of destroying the memories and personalities of Evelyn and the city. This is such a better thing than what we saw.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. Now I can see why the people who read the book liked it more. He decided to use the memory serum to wipe the memories of the people within the city, allowing the experiment to begin with a clean slate. Triss learns the Bureau created the serums that led to the destruction of Abnegation and the enslavement of Dauntless. Repulsed by the Bureau's actions and David's decision, Triss reconciles with Four. With her friends, she begins to create a plan to save her city. The group decides to break into the weapons lab and use the memory serum to wipe the Bureau's
Starting point is 01:00:43 memories. The lab is guarded by a fatal dose of sudden death serum, rendering it a suicide mission. Caleb, her brother, volunteers for the role, tearfully asking Triss if his choice will allow her to forgive him for everything he's done. Triss says yes. Four, Christina, Peter, and Amar. Who's Amar? I don't know. Plan to go into the city to inoculate their loved ones against the serum.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Christina is able to retrieve doses of the inoculation serum and tells the group to inject themselves. Christina gives the extra vial of memory serum to Four for use against his father, Marcus, or mother. Evelyn, in hope of bringing an end to the conflict. Oh, in hope of bringing. Okay, yeah. Four decides to confront Evelyn. Four meets his mother and end to the conflict, in hope of bringing, okay, yeah. Four decides to confront Evelyn. Four meets his mother and gives her an option of drinking it. Evelyn can then end the fighting and become his mother again.
Starting point is 01:01:33 She embraces Four without taking the serum. They meet with Johanna and Marcus to plot the end of the conflict. Peter laments his bad behavior and violent tendencies, which he knows will never change. Peter wants to take the memory serum and become a new person. Four gives Peter the serum. Peter takes it and his memories are erased. What? None of this happened! What? What?
Starting point is 01:01:55 This is infinitely better than what we saw. This is like an entirely different thing. This isn't even remotely close to what we saw. Yeah. At the Bureau, Caleb is ready to sacrifice himself, but he and Triss are ambushed by Bureau guards. Triss pulls her gun on Caleb and decides to carry out the mission herself,
Starting point is 01:02:14 knowing that Caleb volunteered out of regret for his former's actions, rather than for his love of her. Triss tells Caleb that if she does not return, she should tell Thor that she did not want to leave him. Triss destroys the entrance to the lab and is exposed to the death serum, but she survives. David shoots Triss, who lunges for the memory serum and releases it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Triss slowly slips into darkness until she sees her mother reaching out for her. She gladly accepts her mother's embrace, succumbs to her wounds, and dies. Four, Peter, and Christina return to the compound and are told about Triss' death by Kara, whoever the hell that is. Four is incensed that Triss died for Caleb, even after Caleb's betrayal. Before Caleb walks away, he tells Four that Triss never wanted to leave him. Zeke and his mother take Uriah off life support, whatever the hell that is. Four cuts his hair and is about to use the memory serum on himself so that he can forget the pain of losing Triss and Uriah.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Christina convinces him not to use it, saying that Triss would want him to remember her. Two and a half years later, Chicago's finally at peace with former faction members, factionless, compound members, etc. moving about at will. Four spreads Triss's asses while ziplining. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:03:22 He accepts that he has endured and reflects on his belief that while life damages everyone, people can heal over time. Alright, it's still awful, but at least more is happening in this. Yeah. Spread your ashes while ziplining, Shaka-bra. Shaka-bra. Like, apparently a lot of people were mad that she died because they're like she died for literally no reason they're like she survived so many things that like she should have been killed by
Starting point is 01:03:51 and then she just dies here just because like they think it's like shock factor oh i guess kara is the the kara and johanna i guess are the allegiant leaders so I think it's like the Amity woman yeah whatever it doesn't matter either way this movie has nothing to do with this book yeah there is literally nothing in I just don't I just don't know
Starting point is 01:04:19 I just don't know I don't either it's it's so like you can tell they cut out so much shit because it just chops along. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. And it's just really dull and, like, uninspired. Yeah, it even starts out, Trist Pryor is shocked by the video released to the public at the end of the Erudite headquarters raid.
Starting point is 01:04:40 The video revealed the truth about the faction system and announced that the Divergent are needed outside the borders of the city. Factionless leaders Evelyn Johnson appoints herself leader of the city. She forces citizens to operate under her command and live as equals and factionless citizens. Triss questions Evelyn's motives and is kidnapped by a
Starting point is 01:04:59 legionary rebel group determined to reinstate their old way of life. The legion invite her to a meeting the following night. Triss's brother, Caleb, is put on trial. They save him. So, I mean, that happens. The Allegiant plan to send a group outside the city to find the truth. So the Allegiant are the ones who send the group.
Starting point is 01:05:16 It isn't they just decide to go. Oh, well, that makes sense. Triss volunteers on the condition that Caleb is taken with them. Tobias, Triss, Christina, Kara, all these different people are ambushed. After they jump off the train, the train was not brought back, which results in Tori's death. Sorry, Tori. Driving through the unknown, they meet Zoe and Amar,
Starting point is 01:05:37 four's former instructors, who are believed to have been killed for being divergent. Zoe and Amar take the group to the Bureau of Genetic... What? There's so much happening. So Zoe and Amar take the group to the Bureau of Genetic Welfare. What? There's so much happening. So Zoe and Amar, these other characters who I guess were Four's friends, take them to the Bureau of Genetic Welfare
Starting point is 01:05:53 where they learn the truth about their society many years ago. So that whole thing. Yeah. And Tristan Four tested. So that takes us back to where I started. But literally, this Wait, what? What the shit did we So that takes us back to where I started But literally this Wait what What the shit did we watch That is nothing that happened in this book
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah I don't We didn't even see We didn't even get the same story What the hell What Tori's the Hot Asian braided woman That's right wait so in this one That's right Tori's the Asian chick braided woman. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Wait. So in this one, that's right. Tori's the Asian chick. So Triss volunteers to go in the condition, okay, after they jump off the train. So in this, they climb the wall. In the book, they jump off the train. They just jump off the train. Tori's killed.
Starting point is 01:06:41 And in the movie, they walk into the unknown. in the book they drive of course yeah of course i mean either way you know it's but at least the book has like some substance to it at least yeah at least the book has a like something that's kind of entertaining the movie was i was super bored the entire time nothing happened nothing happened nothing happened at all like i feel like this is a movie that could have been saved by nicholas cage you replace david with nicholas cage instant instant smash i i feel like he would have he would have been better he would have been better nich He would have been better. Nicolas Cage, as David, would have just been like, don't you understand? Tristan!
Starting point is 01:07:30 We're trying to save you. We're trying to save Chicago. We're just trying to save the world. I would have been like, yeah, that's right, Nicolas Cage. We're trying to save the world. I would have taken Nicolas Cage's side. Yeah, the problem is that David had no there was no intensity to him. He was
Starting point is 01:07:47 always the guy who was like, don't worry I'm definitely not evil. Yeah, that's like that was what he was. He was just a one dimensional, I'm evil but I'm not evil guy. And the difference is so striking when you compare it to Maze Runner, which has
Starting point is 01:08:03 relatively the same story when you think about it. They escape the experiment. They find themselves out in the world. And when they get out in the world, the people that were there to help them who were running the experiment are actually the bad guys. Except the difference is this gave us David, who's this guy who's like, I'm here to help you. I'll take you before the council and everything will be okay. I knew your mother. And in Maze Runner, they had had i've never read the book so i don't know but in the maze runner movies they have little finger is like don't worry you can totally trust me and
Starting point is 01:08:36 then when they're like betray me he's like i'll kill you oh i'll get you good yeah it's so much better oh it is so much better i feel like the Maze Runners probably followed the books more I don't even want to know now I don't want to know now because at least the Maze Runner movies so far have been so insane that at least they're entertaining
Starting point is 01:08:57 this shit was boring as balls yeah it was super boring it was like I was even trying to find stuff to just laugh at and being like, that's stupid, haha, but I couldn't even do that. It was just like nothing happening. It was just nothing. So boring.
Starting point is 01:09:14 So boring. It reminded me of when they split up Lord, uh, not Lord of the Rings. Hunger Games in the two parts. Well, yeah. Well, first off, yeah, it's perfect. So, when they split up Lord of the Rings. Hunger Games in the two parts. Well, yeah. Well, first off, yeah, it's perfect. So when they split up Hunger Games, the last two parts of that movie, the first part, nothing happened.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And the second part was all action, but no story. Like, I was like, I don't, who the fuck is this cat woman? I don't care about her. Yeah. And that's the same thing that happened here, where I'm convinced the next movie is probably going to have all the shit that we just read. Mm-hmm. And this movie gave us nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Nothing occurred. Literally nothing. Also, can I just point out really quickly, when Tristan and Four kiss, they make the sloppiest kissing sound. They really do. It's like... It goes on for like 10 seconds. Oh, it's so gross. They just go like
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's so sick. I'm sitting in a theater repulsed by their kissing. I know. It's these two characters who have zero They have zero chemistry just like It's so gross. It's so gross. It's like, I'm so tired now of the wall.
Starting point is 01:10:30 A bit like, we're in the wall. What's outside the wall? That's in so many things now. I don't want any more walls. Unless it's like, you already know what's outside the wall, and you're in the wall. Yes, at least when it came to Maze Runner, they got out of the wall, and then stayed out of walls. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:48 The first book literally has nothing to do with the second book when it comes to the maze. The maze is gone. They got out of the maze. They moved on with the plot. There's not another maze. It's just they moved on with the plot, and it was good. It was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:03 It's essentially the same as Hunger Games. They have the Hunger Games. They're in the Hunger Games. And then they're like, all right, we're, and it was good. It was good. Yeah. It's essentially the same as, like, Hunger Games. Like, they have the Hunger Games. They're in the Hunger Games. And then they're like, all right, we're out of it. We're not going back. This is like, let's go back to the experiment, guys. It's like, oh. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I looked up Maze Runner because I want to see something. The Maze Runner lead actor had a massive injury. What? On set. What? He was tragically run over by a car while filming a stunt. What the shit? What?
Starting point is 01:11:35 What the shit? I don't think Tris would ever get run over by a car. If she needed it, it would have made this movie better. It would have made this movie better. Production on the film will be shut down While he recovers Damn And it's called The Death Cure
Starting point is 01:11:53 Oh my god I'm so pumped for that movie What are these books What are these books I've moved on The new divergence. I'm like, oh, man, I'm ready. Where's the next maze run?
Starting point is 01:12:08 Yeah, where's the next? So the next one's called The Death Cure. The Death Cure. Oh, see, we did talk about this when we talked about Maze Runner, how the first book is in this lush, like, garden maze. The second book, The Scorched Trials, is in this, like, desert. The new one, which looks like The Death Cure
Starting point is 01:12:26 Is like an icy fortress Oh yeah, I remember that They have like mind control or some shit Oh man, this is gonna be so good I'm ready for that now This is gonna be so good The lead actor got run over for his craft Triss wouldn't do that
Starting point is 01:12:43 She's like, I'm just jogging. I'm trying to dodge bullets. Hold on, let me sloppy kiss you for The maze is also like a lot cooler than like nuked Chicago. Definitely a lot cooler. Well, it still doesn't, nuked Chicago still doesn't make sense. Yeah. If the entire surrounding area of Chicago was nuked, why is the infrastructure of Chicago still standing?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Yeah. Like, that makes no sense. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I don't, I don't get it. All I know is, I am, they could be, the place they're at could be where I'm living. What? Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:13:26 Because I'm in the suburbs of Chicago. So it's outside of Chicago where all the red shit is that's like Mars. That could be where I live. This place I'm in right now is just Mars. Nuked Mars. But it's 200 years later, so there's no more radiation. Yeah, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah, what if? What radiation. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. What if? What if? Oh, my God. Oh, there's so many better ways this movie could have gone. I remember sitting in the theater thinking to myself, like, I can think of numerous ways that this movie could be better right now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Like, if they released that gas, shit, that would have been so crazy. I know. I would have walked out of that movie like oh my god what is gonna happen yeah just like end it with the gas being released even i would have been like oh shit right now it's gonna happen doesn't make any sense there's i don't yeah i don't even care i don't even care what's gonna happen i don't care anymore either i don't even care whatever that's my rating whatever yeah my rating for
Starting point is 01:14:27 this movie is a solid whatever oh god the other ones were so silly and stupid I had such hope this would live up to that it was just stupid there was no silly involved yeah there was no like Macklemore driving over fences oh man back to the good old days like fakelemore whatever his name is he tried to do some like mad max slow motion shit but it wasn't
Starting point is 01:14:57 cool it wasn't as cool as driving it definitely wasn't cool he drove over a cliff while staring down our heroes and then got his entire team killed. He did nothing. He didn't do anything. He did nothing. And then the worst part is he is what? Everyone's friends now. So he was the bad guy and now he's not the bad guy anymore? Yeah, I don't know either just go see
Starting point is 01:15:26 go see zootopia that was a solid movie best movie of the year right now i haven't even seen that yet there's so many things i haven't seen zootopia kept my attention the whole time you are like you are the fox in that movie that is you thanks the most you character I think I've seen. Great. I'm the sloth. And it's great. I'm a sloth. And then great plot. Great premise.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Great story. It covers the whole aspect of judging people by their race or gender. Because it's like doing it to animals where they're like, hey, you're a stupid rabbit. You can't be a part of our club. Or you're not as good as our race race of animals it covers like all the topics and it's like then they all get along and it's like yay and there's a happy ending and Shakira's in it she plays like a llama girl or the dances best movie of the year so far 99 sloths out of 100 can I ask you a question yes why in America is it called Zootopia but in Britain
Starting point is 01:16:28 it's called Zootropolis? It's because England's weird. I'm aware of that. But why is it called Zootropolis? What is the point of that? Zootropolis. I don't know. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Why is that the case? That is I'm not positive Zootropolis Review Zootropolis Why Why name change? Zootopia to be called Zootropolis
Starting point is 01:17:01 Ooh, eight Disney films with different names In the US and UK I don't even care why, I just want to know what the other ones were Yeah Zootopia to be called Zootropolis. Ooh, eight Disney films with different names than the U.S. and U.K. Ooh. I don't even care why. I just want to know what the other ones were. Yeah. What? D2, The Mighty Ducks became, oh, The Mighty Ducks became Champions.
Starting point is 01:17:18 D2, The Mighty Ducks became The Mighty Ducks. What? Wait. So when we talk about The Mighty Ducks. Why is it talking about The Mighty Ducks? Well because it's a Disney movie. Oh. So the original Mighty Ducks
Starting point is 01:17:32 became the champions in Britain and then D2 became The Mighty Ducks. So when people watch The Mighty Ducks there they think we're talking about D2
Starting point is 01:17:42 get out of life. The Lion King one and a half Became the Lion King 3 Hakuna Matata There's a Lion King 1 and a half I never saw Lion King 1 and a half Zootopia became Zootropolis because Oh Disney spokesman telling
Starting point is 01:18:02 Screen Daily that the change was to merely allow The film to have a unique title that works for UK audiences. Apparently, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was renamed Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in North America because the execs thought not many people in North America would know what the Philosopher's Stone is. So it's just kind of... Why don't people in the UK understand the concept of a utopia? I don't know. The Great Mouse Detective became Basil, the Great Mouse Detective. Tomorrowland became Tomorrowland, a world beyond.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Avengers became Avengers Assemble. Return to Neverland became Peter Pan 2, Return to Neverland. Yep. Apparently, Zootopia is trademarked in Denmark So they couldn't do it there Interesting Yeah Well that is a lot of BS
Starting point is 01:18:54 Are we done talking about this movie? Yeah Can we never discuss it again? I am ready to never talk about it ever again Good good because Unless they make this fourth one Which going into it now i don't know what it would be i don't know what it'd be either i don't really care what it would
Starting point is 01:19:10 be am i still gonna see it probably yeah but do i have do i care now no no i don't i don't care at all this movie literally ruined all my love that i had for any of these characters even though i had really no love for any of them. Yeah. Terrible movie. Literally no connections. Terrible movie. Four out of 28 popcorns and a sad face. I'm with you on that. All the sad faces, zero popcorns.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Mm-hmm. And, yeah. All right. As Allegiant. Yep. That's it, guys. Thank you for listening. We'll be back with another episode and
Starting point is 01:19:45 as always to be continued

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