Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 453 - Into the Garfieldverse

Episode Date: January 19, 2025

The boys are back and this time Jesse finally becomes internet famous, even though it's not him. Also Crendor cants a chant while learning about the Garfieldverse. How meta does that cat get?! Also the boys discuss fiction writing in a way I don't think either are qualified for. And then Dunkin runs out of donuts?! All this and more on Cox n' Crendor! The map of Cox n' Crendor Weather: https://t.co/L2W34Uot4Z Go to http://meundies.com/crendor and use code CRENDOR to get 20% off your first order and free shipping. Go to http://HeroForge.com and use code CRENDOR to get 5% off all orders of physical miniatures.

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You gotta can't the chant You gotta can't the chant what is canting isn't that like I don't know good Google it right now What does the internet tell you? I would love to know talk hypocritically and Sanctimoniously about something example if they'd stop can thing about honest work. They might get somewhere ah Well, maybe they can't maybe we'll have a can't chant I guess you could Ah, well, maybe we'll have a can't chant. I guess you could have a can't chant. I do not want to be here today.

You're only paying me 7.25. Right? Yeah. In fact, canting is from the Latin canter to sing and then English chant and Then combined in the can't in the early 16th century. I'm telling you dude. We basically just brought it back We did it's I Hope everyone starts canting more and more

Wait hold on there. It goes. There's medieval Latin cantus which was corner side, and then middle Dutch of cant, point side edge, and then middle low German, Kant, Kantay, Kant? Words. Are you learning about the origin of words? Are you just doing it right now? Yeah, why not? You're like, whoa! Do you know words come from places. Don't it's more so Finding out where they come from. Let's like dude. That's pretty crazy We're like everybody's learning at home now. You know about canting you can go to work tomorrow and be like yeah

Did you guys know about canting and they'll be like? God, I didn't want to wake up and come to work You'll be like that's canting and they'll be like God I didn't want to wake up and come to work today. And you'll be like that's canting! Yeah. You guys are living it right now! Isn't that, it's like Garfield with Mondays. Like I feel like why does Garfield hate Mondays? Like he's just a cat. Do you think it's because he spends the whole weekend with John and he loves John really and John goes to Work Mondays, and so he's finally alone after a weekend of love. No in fact. I don't think John works He never really does anything he tries to get dates that's work Yeah, but he's not making money from it like I don't know how he's paying for everything

Cuz I guess on Monday Garfield has a lot of bad luck So I think he's more spiteful of Monday because of the luck and like all these bad things happen But I guess it's just the start of the week for most people so like God back at the grind here. We go again Garfield's wait is he a writer oh? I get it John's a cartoonist ah well writer oh I get it John's a cartoonist ah well that explains everything really that does explain everything explains John explains the cat situation whoa dude do you think canonically John is the writer

of Garfield telling stories about Garfield Jim Davis no no no no no no no no okay do you think John's job is he goes and makes comics very similar to Jim Davis but about his own cat Garfield oh and that's his comic series I mean it's possible it's I don't know if we ever see John's comics or if he talks about it That because no we do see John's comics because every Garfield comic strip is a comic about Garfield from John's perspective dude. We're getting into like metaphysics. I'm just saying I

Mean I can see it like personally But then I feel like at that point Jim Davis is John and then you have like these weird parallel dimensions No, no, no, no, no either Jim Davis is John our buckles pseudonym or Jim Davis uses John our buckle because John our buckles a stupid name and He uses that just like maybe maybe it's like when someone goes to reddit and tells a story it's like I'm gonna change the names right maybe his cat's name is Cleveland and his dog's

name is Modo and he wants to tell the story but he just changes the names but that's really what happens to him the entire time now I've got Something I found on Wikipedia. I gotta show you oh no yeah, so this is the first ever whoa So apparently the character of John Arbuckle is envisioned by Jim Davis as an author surrogate and was the primary character of the comic strip John created by Davis in 1976 and syndicated locally in the Indiana newspaper So it was originally a cartoon about a cartoonist Created by a cartoonist from the perspective of the cartoonist. However

People did not give a damn about the cartoonist and instead wanted more of the cat and so Garfield took over. Yeah They're just like oh, hey this guy. He's probably he's probably write this comic like this will be fun It's like a cartoonist's life and all this stuff and Garfield's just like I hate this guy and everyone's like yo, I love that cat Yeah, really Garfield is the family matters of the cartoon world Yeah, and then it just became Urkel It's like oh you watched Urkel you like family matters like no Urkel Yeah, everyone tuned in for Urkel you did not care about the brothers you not care about like the only thing you care about was will the dad and Urkel get in a fight or

Will Steve Urkel turn into Urkel and like try to get with the girl like that's all people cared about Yeah, so really what we've learned is that you should never focus on a main character Always go to your weird side character and be like who's gonna which side character is gonna be most loved and then that will be my main character unless you get a thing like Like Family Guy or those spinooff shows where they're like, what if we have the Cleveland show and it's like nobody cares? So it could be, it could go both ways.

It could also be bad the other way. I guess cats are universal, dude. I just, I try to think of it. Cats, people love cats. They're so sassy. It's true. People do love cats. I love cats. I mean, whatever.

You love cats so much you refuse to give them man names. Man names. That's how I've decided the reason why you call cat cat is because you don't want to plague it with its slave name. You're like, you are cat. I will give you no human name. The thing is like, I also like when people name their animals after just random stuff they're like oh there's like peanut butter there's like refrigerator like I like that more fun than like Bob yeah plus if you're gonna have like a big dog calling him the fridge is pretty great that would be pretty great just like oh here comes the fridge like you like drooling and stuff

yeah it's just like more fun it's's like it's a goofy, goofy animal instead of just like this is Plus if you call it, if you call that dog Steve and he's drooling everywhere people are gonna be like What do you got against Steve man? That dog is a mess Yeah So I'm a big fan of that Or just you know, cat. Yeah, or just cat. So that was your week going.

As you know, TikTok is down at the moment. Who knows what's gonna happen with it? No, it's back up. Immediately back up? Yeah, it's up now. Crazy, that was the shortest ban in the history of bands. No, I don't use TikTok. I have no clue.

Well, good news for me. The reason why I say is because this past week, all of my social media was being flooded with people asking me, yo, enjoying your iPad? I have no idea what that means. Couldn't tell you. On- Wait.

Oh, just wait. All week on, you know, everything from Facebook to Instagram to Twitter to blues everywhere. People like YouTube, especially there was one video, I guess the most recent one, all the comments are like enjoying your laptop. I had no idea what it was about. It was like, all right, that's weird. So people started sending me a video from tick tock, I guess a multimillion follower tick tocker who does that like, Hey man, I'm, I do comedy bits, but also I go around and like talk to people on the street, you know,

like that kind of kind of guy. And, uh, he approached a dude who has a strong Jesse aura and he was like, hey, mystery box or one dollar? And the guy goes, mystery box? And he's like, good boy. And he keeps doing that every day and the guy keeps looking at him weird and he's like, good boy. It has that real awkward, like if I'm Gen Z it's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he keeps asking him and the dude he's interviewing turns the camera and just gives a straight on shout out to youtube.com slash Jesse Cox, which is hilarious. And the thing is because I had done that and told that story to I think both you and a bunch of other people

I think this hero Heard it and did the exact same thing and so the funny part is he looks Just close enough to me again. My mom absolutely correct when she says all nerds start to look like me after a while Which is really funny. Um he definitely has some Jesse vibes and says this. And so all the comments are about like, yo, I should go check out Jessica. And I'm like, hmm, all right, interesting.

But it's because half of them just think that guy's me. And so it's people fighting over whether that guy is actually me or not, which is hilarious. Some people are like, he doesn't even look like him. And other people are like, well, why would he say to go to this site if it isn't his own site? That doesn't make any sense. It was just, dude, I became famous on some guy,

other, like, some other guy's thing. It was incredible. So I've just been basking in the fame of the internet for a while. People are just like, you didn't even thank him for that iPad. I'm like, no, no, I didn't. I'm just enjoying it.

But what's funny is it happened five days before TikTok was supposed to shut down, but I guess it's back now. But I was like, I became TikTok famous and it wasn't even me. That is funny. You know? You know? That's, they must, I mean, they must be a listener of one of your medias.

100%. Oh yeah. The thing is, I feel like I've seen him before at an event, but I just don't know. Because again, I must stress, I have a large contingent of clones out there. There are many red-bearded big dudes who look like me who just exist. You just got a factory, you're just pumping them out. I'm telling you we are a different breed. There are a lot of us. I don't know what was happening during some period of,

I don't even like on that family tree, there's gotta be a connector somewhere between all of us. We are our own genus. Yeah. It's like Lord of the Rings. There's like an old family member like Sauron, and he's like rise There's like oh my god another red bearded nerd we all popped out of little bubbles in the earth My parents never did tell me how I was born I assume

Earthly bubble yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably your dad was born the same way Long ago back in Middle Earth, that's where That's cool. Yes, that was the whole thing that was funny people were still doing it And they were like hey, have you seen this was like oh, I saw it. Oh, I've seen this trust me Oh speaking of seen things I saw it. Oh, I've seen this trust me. Oh speaking of seen things. I saw Sonic 3 Yes Did you enjoy it? It was a sonic movie like it's it's about what I expected. It's much like you know when I saw Garfield

I was like. Oh, you know it was Garfield although when I you know with that I was like if Chris Pratt was in Garfield. I would have liked it more, but You know it was Sonic now. Here's the thing. I haven't seen Sonic one or two wait what all right then of course You'd be like what the shit, okay? But I know of Sonic things because of the Sonic Symphony of course wait. I'm so confused You just went to go see Sonic 3 Well, what is it? One of our friends was like you want to go see Sonic 3. For what reason? Well, we had a friend, one of our friends was like, you wanna just go to the movies? I was like, okay.

I had popcorn. Uh, mainly just wanted to go see a movie. And I was like, you know what? I know what to expect from Sonic. Like, you kinda know what you're getting into, right? So, we went to Sonic 3, it was... Uh, like honestly, Jim Carrey as the egg man is pretty good. He's the best part for me hands down. He the rest of the movie. Have you seen Sonic 3? I've seen all three Sonic movies I must stress I'm not the hugest Sonic

fan in the world mostly because of Sonic. I Just genuinely Sonic is a character They made him from a little tiny blue man who rolls in a ball goes Like speeds away who really had no character aside from when he drowns, but he really had no character And then they made him kind of like hey, I'm crazy cool. I love chili dogs and speed and you're like, uh, he is The least cool character in all of Sonic and he's the main one Sounds like a Hollywood Yeah, you get that down at pinks I think

There's something about Sonic I just never got. It's not like he's a bad character, he's never got me. I was never a big Sonic fan. However, I'm a big fan of the concept of Knuckles and Knuckles is a character I always loved, even as a kid I thought that was cool. Also because he was like, I'm the bad one. But then I fell off well before it got ridiculous

where they were like, let's introduce Shadow, he has a gun, and let's introduce Robot Sonic. All that stuff, that was not my scene at all. That's definitely a generation thing below me. But yeah, not a... I don't know, something about the Sonic movies, I was like, okay, there's clearly some four kids bits here, and I'll let let that slide because that's kind of what the movie is but Jim Carrey on screen hilarious every single time clearly there for the adults big big fan I know uh I know Dodger saw it with her kid and I didn't listen to the entire segment I just saw

did she like it yeah I mean she likes the same things that I liked when it came to like, you know, Robotnik and all those guys. Okay. But her enjoyment came from her kid being there, like all the kids she was with. And they were blown away by it and they were loving it. Honestly, I told her, and I'll tell you this, I don't want to go with kids. I want to go with like the Gamecube kids you know the like dudes who are like you know late 20s right now who just still are really into Sonic and they will sing along to the theme song and they'll be like oh I know this and this and this I want to go with them because that would be my watching kids

enjoy saying you know what I mean I I don't because those are the people I got COVID from. That's the Sonic Symphony. So listen, I'm all for them having fun, celebrating. I just, not during COVID season anymore. Gotcha. Yeah. So at least this time I didn't get sick, right? Funnily enough, we were the only people in the movie theater, so that was pretty great.

We did go at like 9.30 p.m. on a like Wednesday. So here are the things that I noticed from this movie, which are probably not things most people are normally going to notice. Okay. going to notice okay number one I instantly knew that the like Sonic mom I think it's like his mom or I don't know the lore right she is the woman from Medea's Christmas wait what you didn't notice like I kept being like I know you mean the human Yeah, the family that he lives with yes Cyclops

I don't know oh boy all right. Yeah Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I know you mean yeah her name in the movie is Maddie yeah, yeah She's the woman from the is Christmas, and I was just like that's that's the Madias Christmas woman That's all I could think of every time I saw her Tika Tika sumpter yes, yes Awesome, love that love that for her so I know I noticed that then there were certain things where I was just like is this like

Sonic cannon like the guy that is the assistant of dr. Robotnik Just felt like he didn't belong in the movie. He is He so in the original movie Robotnik didn't look like he looks now. He was like a slick You know kind of Elon musky looking dude Robotnik didn't look like he looks now. He was like a slick, you know, kinda Elon Musk-y lookin' dude. And this was his assistant. And his assistant was like a little punk guy, Agent Stone.

And at the end of the movie, he gets like zapped, and that's how he becomes, you know, he got the crazy mustache, and he's like lost his hair. And he's stuck on a different world and so yeah in the first movie agent stones the characters created for the movie just like um Maddie and Cyclops there they were created for the movie I see okay because I just it would feel weird because it almost felt like he would act next to Jim Carrey where Jim Carrey's just like doing going crazy and you're just like oh shit and then he would just be like hey everyone it's me the assistant guacamole and I was just like what that's the bit that's the bit is he's the normal guy yeah that's it the bit is he's the normal one and everyone else is crazy Yeah, so I just I just felt like I was being like warped all around. I was like okay hold on yeah, at the end at the end of the second movie for example Robotniks in a giant Robotnik machine and

he's in the center of it piloting it and His his assistant is in like a DJ booth playing music the entire time. It's a bit is what it is. Is it a good bit? I don't know, but I laugh every time, so I'm here for it. Then there was like certain things in the movie that just felt like Jim Carrey wrote them in.

Oh, again, let me stress. There's Sonic movie, and then there's Jim Carrey in the Sonic movie and 100% That is so like the dance scene with him and his dad Yep That's just cuz Jim Carrey would dance on in living color back in the day and he knows how to dance so they just like Let's go and they put it in and they like that's just I'm sure like a full day of just improv and they just edited it together Yeah, no that that scene specifically. I was like that feels like Jim Carrey put that in yeah

The the fourth wall breaking where he's like we're the same actor then they look and I was like that definitely feels like a Jim Carrey thing and Then the one line in the movie that felt like the most Jim Carrey line is when the he like gets they're in the gravity machine and the the woman in charge of the military thing like They're in the gravity machine and the woman in charge of the military thing like knocks him down. She's just like, well, I don't remember what she says. And he just goes, oh my God, there's women in the military. And I was like, what?

So again, this is what happens when you miss two movies. That's kind of like his stick is in the first movie. He goes to, so the army's looking for Sonic since he like comes to Earth and they're like, there's this thing and this is blue. So they send him in to find Sonic. And he gets there and he just like shits on the entire military. That's like his whole goof in the first movie.

I'm like, you know, that's his thing. Is every movie kind of like pooh-poos, everyone is lesser than him? And so it carries over. It's, I'm again shocked you did not see the first two movies and so it carries over. It's like I'm again shocked You did not see the first two movies and went into this blind. I love that for you. I think that's so funny Yeah, I mean overall like it was a solid. You know it was what I expected from a sonic movie I can't believe I'm here justifying the scenes from Sonic 3 like watch Lee

Canonically that would be correct. Like, whoa! What happened to me? Yeah, I, clearly I've become the GameCube kid. You just open your, you open your like TV, the, what do you call it? Cabinet thing. There's just a GameCube in there now. You're just like, how'd that get in there? Throw it out. It comes back the next day like a copy of Sonic shows up yeah it opens up and there's like smash bros in it I'm like I don't like this game like aside from that you know Sonic I thought Keanu Reeves was like I thought he sounded like Sonic the

hedgehog but sometimes it felt like he just woke up and voiced it like he's kind of like I gotta do this is like Sonic. What are you doing like? But he's all right that I mean that's been Keanu Reeves thing Every time he acts is no matter what movie you watch or game you play or whatever Sometimes he's like we've got to stop them. They're gonna kill us all and then sometimes he's like hey man Whatever works you're like what? If you want the best version of that go watch the movie Dracula Bram Stoker's Dracula Keanu Reeves is in that movie and

It is a crazy casting choice because he's acting but like everyone in the movie is like yes we must stop the vampire and he's like I gotta do what I gotta do my lord. You're like whoa wait what? Like it's just some it's like Nick cage will do that sometimes you can tell he's just like I Just got a to this movie. It's just kind of weighing it, but then other times He's like really into it it's it's very clear that it's acting choices as well, and it's just the way their voice like Yanu is just a Dude who sounds like he lives at the beach all the time

But then he's in movie so he's acting, he's making acting choices and some of those choices revert to dude living on the beach. It's very funny. So yeah, that was overall, it was alright. I'd give it like a 6 or 7 out of 10. You know, probably the same as like Garfield or Any of those Garfield would have been seven if Chris Pratt didn't bring it down to a six which again Just anybody but Chris Pratt. He's just he's Chris Pratt

He's not Garfield all right like get what's his name again? Bill Murray Like bless bill Murray you want Garfield to be like old yeah I mean Garfield is old at heart I guess you're right even when you listen to the old cartoons and stuff he's just like, Odie here we go

we're just gonna do it, hey grandma the problem is Garfield needs to skew younger or we need to stop making Garfield movies. You know what I mean? Like, uh, I'm super interested in what the demo is safe for people to go see a Garfield movie. The people that did must have some connection to Garfield. I don't think people would just show up for a Garfield movie.

You know what I mean? And most people have a connection are, uh, older people. A great example of connections and going to see movies is that Robbie Williams movie where he's the monkey. Uh, what exactly? So in fact, you don't even know what it is. Um, Robbie Williams, if you were a nineties, I'm going to say, I'll say eighties kid who grew up in the nineties. Um, and it might've been early 2000s to Robin Williams was kind of had a little

I was about to say penetration of the market here, but that sounds really weird But yeah big big big big big big big British star and potentially around the rest of the world I don't know but in the States he had one or two songs and then was gone and the rest of the world. I don't know, but in the States he had one or two songs and then was gone. And I'll be honest, I thought he just fell off until I realized that in the UK he's still extremely popular and still makes a ton of music. And it's one of those things where, because American audiences just don't know who he is, when a biopic about him comes out that I'm sure did great in the UK. When it comes to the States, when it comes to the States no one saw it like no one saw it and people were like well why would they do this does make

any sense and I think the reason was is they were like well he did have a thing in the States and if we just promote it as him being popular people go see it because it's you know him as like an ape and it's a musical da da da people just didn't care like there was no connection to it at all at all and That's you know Unfortunately the way it is with a lot of entertainment is unless you have some sort of buy into the product be it sonic or whatever You're not gonna go watch it

Yeah, I mean, that's true, but I mean There's still so many options. I mean that's the thing. Yeah, no, that's true. But I mean, there's still so many options. I mean, that's the thing. Yeah, no, no, that's it. There's so many options. I could either try something new that I don't know or do the 18 things that I love. So I'll just do the 18 things that I love, right?

It's like when you go grocery shopping. Yeah, I could try that new thing, but boy, do I love this cereal. And you'll just get that because you know it, you like it, you love it. It's been consistent. Wait, was Chris Pratt Garfield in a previous one? I don't think so, maybe.

Chris Pratt's done a lot of stuff. Well then wouldn't that be trying something new? No, no, no, I'm saying Garfield's a property, not the actor. Oh, okay. I'm saying if Chris Pratt is, well, I'm not sure what it is like now, but Chris Pratt for a time was like the actor in Hollywood. And he's Mario. Yeah, he was there. And so they were just trying to get him in as much stuff as possible. Yeah.

Just for name recognition. Like it's in the cultural ethos. We all know Garfield it's it's very similar to like we all know Snoop Dogg but it doesn't necessarily mean that we all like Garfield we all like Snoop or whatever we just know of it because it's been in the culture so long Snoop Dogg's in like every advertisement I ever see now yeah again Snoop Dogg a guy who 25 years ago your parents would tell you was gonna ruin your life and make you become a debaucherous felon and now it's like he and Martha Stewart cook sometimes oh Snoop although she's also a criminal. True true Garfield made 257 million at the box office it says and

I mean, that's pretty good. Although it says here a lot of people wish Nick Offerman would have the Garfield voice Honestly, I'm here for that as well. I Nick Offerman, I just love in general. Even though I think the last season of Umbrella Academy was kind of shit, Nick Offerman and his wife, who, man, I can't remember her name, but I just think of her as Karen from Will and Grace. The two of them are the villains in that season, and it's just watching them like riff off each other is hilarious Last season on brother Academy's big whatever but those two steal the show the entire time. They're so funny. They're so good I love that kind of stuff. I yeah Nick Offerman rocks

Yeah, so that would have been great, but here okay. Here's the thing with Garfield. All right. He may be you know outdated or like whatever, but Garfield, like we've said, is a cat. And people love cats. Oh, no, I'm with you. The movie made money. Yeah. People like to see cats, and there were cats. Like, that's not even a question. The movie made money. I'm just saying, does that mean we'll get a sequel?

Because they keep going back to it. They keep trying to make more Garfield movies, but every time it's like, people saw Garfield, but did they love Garfield? I don't know, should we wait a while? Sure, let's wait a while. And then a new movie comes out with new CG, with a new voice. Yeah. I guess they do that with like literally everything you're right I mean even we've at the point with like all the Stuff that gets shows now like Star Wars how that used to be like wow we've barely gotten anything and now it's like too much Yeah, well Hollywood don't milk everything dry like that's their whole thing. I mean especially with actors. There's a reason why People will turn on an actor.

Like remember when Melissa McCarthy was everywhere or Chris Pratt, like we were saying, or I'm trying to think of all the different people that have existed. They're everywhere. There are very few actors that have the longevity, longevity of like a big time famous actor. What Hollywood will do is they'll take an actor who's popular, put them in so many things cause they're popular and they'll get people in seats to the point where suddenly they're everywhere.

Again, this, even the rock, right? Everywhere and you're like, I kind of hate this person now. They're in everything. Yeah. And the public change, like the public will turn on them and then they aren't in stuff anymore. And suddenly they're the bad guy. And yeah, they'll show up every once in a while and do little bits and they'll be a part of

movies or whatever, but they won't be the driving star power they were because the public is like, you gave us too much. And they do that constantly. Hollywood will constantly do that. They will, you know, when there was that time period in the early 2000s where it was like... Seth Rogen was in every third movie. And then people were like, I hate his laugh. Go away. We don't like you anymore. And then he did. And then he's uh, I mean every every person has their arc like that that's like famous at some point.

Yeah, oh yeah. Like they just fall off or they stop caring or whatever and they're like so I made a brand of food or like here's my makeup line or here's my like whatever. That's cause someone was like you can monetize your audience. You don't have to get a real job.

Yeah. So I'm curious, what we'll be doing in 20 years when we create our crazy lines of product. You literally sell tea right now. Are you kidding me? We are 20 years later. We are what happens afterwards. Now it's coffee. Sure, yeah, yeah, my bad.

And sweatpants. Coffee and sweatpants, you found your thing. And, you know, maybe I lean more into that. Maybe I finally write my book, become an author. You know, you never know the real end game for you, I think is actually making High level real comfy sweatpants. Oh, yeah. No, I've thought of that too like that's like here Yes, and then becoming that guy who own owns sweatpants that are known around the world is like the comfiest sweatpants That's that's your end goal. It's uh I don't know if I brought it

I think it was probably this show because this is I don't know where else I'd talk about this It's like a random stream, but I feel like I wouldn't bring this up on a stream I would need some like crazy other person to Brainstorm happen to be that guy yep. And I believe it was called sweat. Like S-W-E-T or like S-W-3-T or just like some weird thing like sweat. And then that way people are like oh it's

this is sweat brand. You know this is good. That's what I'm saying. Like you could have the competition with Lululemon you know what I mean? But it isn't yoga stuff. It's just sweatpants. Yeah. In a world where everything is fast fashion, we are the slow fashion. Yep. We're the slowest.

The slowest fashion around. I mean, if they have things specifically for nurses, right? Or they have things specifically for, you know, like construction workers or whatever, and they have, you could clearly find a target like, guys, do you just want to put on some gray sweatpants? Ladies, do you just want to look at guys in gray sweatpants? Have I got the sweatpants for you? Like that's it. Simple, done. Or comfort. It's all about comfort quality like just keep growing that comfort and quality I think you could do it I really genuinely believe that is your ticket to what happened to Crendor I don't know he made

a bajillion dollars on sweatpants and now he vanished I don't know what he's doing now I'll just be like one of those weird hipster people it shows up and then it's like how did you form sweat and I've got like a turtleneck like glasses even though I don't need glasses I'm just like sweat has been a long-lasting idea of mine it's like a fish in a river that I caught yep also David Lynch rip David Lynch what a a king. Yep. Yeah. I'm glad to see all of his amazing quotes surfacing again. Yes. So many good ones.

I'm shocked. I had never heard the Focus on the Donut, Not the Whole quote. I was like, that might be one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard. It's genuinely Very smart. I was like you know what yes that that's exactly right David I

Just I love the reason that interview. I think you sent it and the guys like So where is where is these ideas coming from he's like they're being thrown in from the other room and the guys like Where's the room and he's like? they're being thrown in from the other room. And the guy's like, where's the room? And he's like, I don't know, you go find it or something. Like you gotta go on your own journey, dude. Yeah, and I get what he was trying to do was the interview was trying to get David to like expand upon his idea.

But the idea is that it's your job to do that. Yeah. And I love that. It was such a good interview. Yeah. Which ties me back to my world building so I talked about how I want a world build Last week or two weeks ago. I remember And so what I've learned is from world building you learn Like other things just kind of inherently so you'll be like oh

I want to learn about like how or works like maybe these mountains have like in An ore that's like iron or bronze, and then you're just like well how would that and then you're like well? I gotta look up smelting, and then you just start watching like smelting video. You're like alright, so iron is formed There's like which by the way the fact that humans figured out how to do this shit's insane They're just like here's how we did it And it's like you take the ore and you like put in the thing and then there's like the two the bellows or the thing There's like you need two of these because the fire's got to be hot and there's like There's like pumping it and they're like

Breaking it apart. So like here's a Whatever it's got. I don't know. There's like so much shit I was like, I don't need to know all this but like you kind of need to know somewhat about it so you're not just like Randomly throwing stuff out there. I don't need to know all this but like you kind of need to know somewhat about it So you're not just like Randomly throwing stuff out there. You don't really know what you're talking about. Well, you're lore building for your book, correct? Right, so so having that information like having it be real I think is what makes good books good a great example is We've been reading a lot of old Star Wars books for our Star Wars

Little Canon book club. And there are some books that are so clearly designed by a dude in the 80s who was very high and just made shit up. Because some things just don't make sense. And when you read it, you're like, this doesn't track with anything else we've ever learned ever about anything. But okay, sure. And yeah, it's that kind of thing that is annoying in books. But if you can take real world things and put it in the book and flavor it. So a great example is now that you're on the track of metal, right? This is just an example. It's not what you have to do, but now that you're on the track of metal, right? This is just

an example. It's not what you have to do. But now that you're on the track of metal and early metal working by man, you should look up the bronze age collapse. Oh, I think I was actually seeing that. Because essentially you have the bronze age and everyone's messing with bronze and the great civilizations are being built. And then people from the sea question mark, uh, show up and ravage the coast destroy, like civilizations crumble and no one knows why. And I think that as a concept is interesting too. Like you could take that and be like, okay, this is similar to the history of my world. You know, like that kind of thing. And you just take bits from history, throw it in your stuff.

Yeah. You know, if you go look at, um, George RR Martin or anyone else who's making fantasy books, right, they're just pulling from real world stuff or other works of fiction, like some of the coolest parts of, uh, a song of ice and fire, which is like the big game of throne story arc. of A Song of Ice and Fire, which is like the big Game of Thrones story arc. Some of the coolest parts are the fact that like Westeros and Essos and like boring, whatever. There's other places in the world with other weird shit. Like there's a city where all of the stone is this black inky goop stone and there's weird monsters and stuff. There is clearly

an Eldritch horror thing happening in game of thrones but it's like under the surface very similar to fallout where if you do fallout some missions will be like we dug too deep and too greedily there's something down there and it's clearly some sort of Cthulhu-esque thing and it's not the main point of the game it just exists but it's there for world building and fun stuff And they just threw in shit that people enjoy so when you stumble across it you're like wait a minute What the hell does this mean? I love stuff like that. I love when they bring in outside things But flavor it with their own world, and that's always cool

Yeah, no I agree That's always what I thought too because it's like most things are just based off history or they're following like the hero's journey or like whatever it might be but yeah I think the the thing that's cool about world-building is you build the world but you're not sharing the entire world like you're just sharing little bits and pieces and you know about it and you know why this thing is the way it is but then like you don't share things that aren't relevant to the story because then you're just you're going into like info dump territory where you want to share it, but you're, then you're like, blah, blah, blah.

And everyone's like, am I reading an almanac or am I reading a book? Right. I, that's why I love the most about the game. Dishonored is dishonored tells the story of this huge world, but you're only basically in the England of that world. They're only basically in the England of that world. And so you'll get notes and letters and stuff about this continent that they're trying to settle but every time they go there, everyone just dies terribly. And there's also writings about how the whales might be sentient and they're using whale

blubber to, you know, for oil, but the whales themselves are like magic properties. But none of it is seen. It's all written down. It's all what I imagine if you lived in England, people would read and like, mermaid found! You know, is it real? Or is it just something someone wrote? And I love that kind of stuff because again, you're only seeing one section and you're experiencing one story, but you're finding out all this other stuff and we'll never go there. We'll never know. But it opens up your imagination to be like, wow, what does that mean? Which again, going back to like the George R. R. Martin,

like weird black inky city, what does any of that mean? Will we ever know? No, we'll never know. But it exists in that world to make you wonder and think about it. And I love that stuff. Yeah. It's also, I've heard a lot of people talk about magic because we've gotten into an era where a lot of people use hard magic systems like explaining stuff but sometimes like you just like not knowing how things work. It's like the force from Star Wars, like people are like, how's the force work?

They're like, I don't know, it's just they use it and then when they start explaining how the force works it like some of that Yeah, like magic to it right you're like. Oh, I guess that's how it works cool Like it's almost like even in World of Warcraft They would just be like here's the old gods, and you're like whoa This is weird and crazy how these work is so mysterious, and there's like oh Here's how this happened. And like just fully explain it. You're like, oh, okay.

And that just loses all of that. I remember being in original vanilla. Wow. And finding that, uh, disc and then going to a cave entrance that was destroyed. But there was like a thing you could put the disc into, and it would tell you this tale about the Titans and the old gods. And you're like, Whoa, what does any of this mean and in vanilla wow there was there was no follow-up it just was a thing you found

that was interesting and then over time they were like no that's actually the most important thing in the entire game and that's fine except it wants to start to get the answers it's yeah it kind ruins it, but I guess that's everything, right? If you are afraid of, I don't know, dogs, the more you learn about dogs, the less afraid you become. Right. Just like if you're in a horror game and you see the monster enough times,

you're no longer scared of the monster, you're just frustrated, this son of a bitch won't stop following you, right? And that's, yeah, it kind of ruins the fun the more you learn. There's a brilliance to not showing stuff yeah and it's I think the sometimes the payoff can be good and the payoff can be bad obviously but like it's the way it's done like for example if you watch Game of Thrones and you get to the later seasons people have already crafted their theories

And they're just like this is gonna happen I bet this is a thing and then they just rush through it they reveal all the stuff And it's just like it feels ruined because they kind of did a disservice to it because they're just like wow Here's all these cool theories people made here's all this like stuff the show's built up to and then they're just like oh Whatever, and it's, so I think rushing to it is one of the worst things you can do as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I grew up with luck, so I know. And then sometimes it's just like, it just doesn't feel, I don't know, it's good.

Like for example, Attack on Titan, I remember being like, dude, this show is crazy. Like, what's beyond the wall? Like, what's in the basement? And then you learn what's beyond the wall, and you learn what's in the basement. And I was just kind of like, oh, okay. Like, it just... I was like, I guess that's cool. Like, it just didn't really interest me, or like, drive me to keep watching it. So sometimes it's just like, the mystery is just more fun than the actual.

Like thing itself. That's the curse though. Right. You have to deliver. Like if you set up a mystery, this is a problem with attack on Titan. It's a problem with the matrix, right? The problem with any time you set up a mystery with anything, the audience start to craft their own solutions. And some of them might be better than what you've thought up.

And the idea of nailing that ending is very, very hard. It's the reason why I'm extremely worried about the third Final Fantasy game. Final Fantasy 7 re whatever comes after rebirth, like they clearly in the first game and remake and in rebirth set up a mystery. Like a mystery is happening that is metaphysical and spiritual and multidimensional, just like crazy shit, right? But it's such a big mystery with so many levels to it that I'm terrified that they're going to do a cop out ending for the third game where none of it really mattered and what like really mattered was you know the characters and their emotions or something it's like you can't stop a mystery and then be like it actually the

mystery was never important I'm worried it's gonna be something like that or you know like in the matrix they set up this huge thing and I think about it all the time, all the time how cool my friends and I thought like the idea of how is it Agent Smith is outside of the Matrix? It's a Matrix within a Matrix dude they were never free it was all a scam by the computer like that to me seemed awesome like what a crazy twist nah dude he was like Jesus or something Neo was basically computer Jesus. I guess was what we learned and That was it that was that yeah, and it just I think it also Like with Game of Thrones. It just didn't fit the show like you could tell that the writing like

Start it started to sway more Hollywood than actual book like the same way you could watch The Hobbit and know which parts are Hollywood and which parts aren't sure I mean there was no look they were going off the Hollywood the only book was the Hollywood playbook at that point and they were like well the fans like this character so let's just keep them alive again from what I so I've read obviously I don't know what the newest books are because they don't exist yet, but I've read all the books that do exist and they just kept characters around in the show

because people liked them. Like that's it. There's some characters who are definitely destined to die and they were just like, nah, we like them more. Or some characters who did die. A great example is Captain Stark in the books comes back as like a Crazed psycho killer with her throat slash and she's like some sort of Whitis ghoul character and she goes around seeking revenge

That is not in the show at all and you know, I can understand why Hollywood's like well We're gonna bring back an actress and just have her be like a ghoul creature. Like that's stupid. Let's just kill off her character. It'll be more impactful. Like I get why Hollywood does what it does, but it's very obvious that at that point when you start changing things a lot, then overall seven, eight, 12 episodes down the road, things will be different. Yeah. And it's, I guess that's also true in Hollywood, is they have to think of the actors and paying people and everything. Well, it's a book, you're just like, I just write. And that's like it. I mean, oh my god, that's, it reminds me of even like, wow, Sylvanas.

It was like, she could have just died after the whole Arthas thing, and then they're just like, I think people like Sylvanas. What if she's like still alive? And it's just like, you can usually start telling when things are shoehorned in. Yes, yeah. And also, I mean, wow's a great example too, because she's been around so long. But just the idea that they very clearly started

to make the Black Prince a thing, and then another team took over and was like, we don't like that character, and just didn't mess with him, and then years later they bring him back for a totally unrelated thing that has nothing to do with his whole purpose. And he's like, I'm here to help you.

And it's like, where were you when we needed you, bro? Doesn't matter, ignore that shit, I'm back now. Okay, okay. Yeah, so, yeah, that's been my world building journey. It's just like not even world building, but I've also just been white or white watching writing stuff of like there's uh, oh my there's this one man named he's got the most like Jerry Jenkins the most like made-up name he's just like a 21 time New York time best-selling author

He's got a YouTube channel, and he just gives like really good writing advice, so if you want to get any more writing tips go watch Jerry Jenkins Oh my god wait hold on hold on. Is this... Left Behind? Hold on. I'm in a... crazy rabbit hole right now. HUUUH! He helped write Left

Behind, which was a Nick Cage movie in 2014. Jerry, I was about to say Jerry Jenkins, looking him up right now, Jerry Jenkins is the guy who made the Left Behind books Which are about the rapture, so you're like learning everything you need to know about Christian book writing This really reference like actual like specific he's more just like generic writing tips that are like pretty good Like he's like giving you tips on like how to write dialogue,

how to write from different points of view, how to write, you know, how to like break your story down with like the hero's journey and stuff. It's kind of like Brandon Sanderson also did that on YouTube, but it's one of those things where it's good to watch like both to get different perspectives and what they think. It's really kind of like being in school in a class, but without

having to go to a school because they're just kind of teaching you which I guess is the power of the internet as well so that was really interesting but the main thing I wanted to bring up from world building was I was looking at it because I looked at ore and stuff then I looked at blacksmithing so I was like okay like how do they do blacksmithing and stuff that's that's kind of correlated. And then really quickly, really quickly before, because we're going to move on from Jerry B. Jenkins. I must say Jerry B. Jenkins, it, it years ago,

he looked like he morphed into Terry Bradshaw. And then he has continued as he's aged to turn into James Carville and it's so fun looking this man he is so funny looking I love Jerry your books weird me out but I love you man sorry yeah no I agree And so what I realized is there's so many shitty AI videos on topics like that with history and It's like and you'll always tell because it has that text-to-speech kind of Voice going on like I'll be like okay. We're learn about blacksmithing. It's just like showing some weird Static image or like AI generated image, and it's doing the like camera pan slowly down. It's just like

blacksmithing was a thing in numerous times in history that was It was the voice that was like This kind of blacksmithing is used throughout history like that's not the voice But you know what I mean? It's kind of got like a sassy attitude like a deeper voice And it's the one they use all the time now in speech to text especially if it's like Ladies, this is one trick men will never know on how you can control their minds with laser beams And you're like what the shit am I what? Yeah, no, it's it's I mean they got some with those it really just depends different videos use different voices

But I just I hate it. I'm just like I just want to Find something as an AI YouTube learning and then I'll find like some actual blacksmith He's like I've been blacksmith in 45 years. Let me teach you how to do this shit. I'm like alright here. We go This is what I'm looking for. That's I mean. That's what I'm here for I Love going to watch, um, man, what is that guy's name? He's like an old cowboy. And he cooks outside. And I don't know his name. Oh, I think I've seen him.

I love that dude. I like watching, uh, it's like a young guy and he does medieval weapon stuff. And he will, people ask him questions and he'll be like, let's let's test and I'll show you that's that's kind of what's fun to learn because you don't have to really it's not like you're in a craft an entire armor system based off that I mean you can that's like world building but it's like you just kind of know how it is and then by knowing that you can play around with like is this like magical can you make it magical how do people make it is it worth selling is it worth wearing?

What makes it so you could have like so many different things, so it's just It's just fun to like create stuff Yeah, absolutely right and I think what's more fun about that compared to like so many other mediums is that it's all imagination based Which I just think is always the best like that's like you always be like, oh, the book is better than the movie or whatever, but then when you actually do read the book, you're like, wow, that really is better than the movie, because it's like, you can use your imagination and you like, just create everything in your head

and the characters and all that stuff, and then when you see a movie, you're just like, that's not the character I read about, because it's like so different, unless they've like, casted it really well or something. Yeah, it's very similar to when you play a video game that has a remake But it's from 20 years ago where there was no voice acting in games And now they have voices you're like that's not how I thought that character sounded at all

But here we are I'll give you I'll give you one one Jerry Jenkins tip here. Oh boy. Yes Always keep the Lord first. Yeah, he said, let Jesus write your dialogue. Take the wheel. Let Jesus take the pen. He said, when you write dialogue, a lot of people make the mistake of kind of over, like kind of info dumping in the dialogue. So for example, they'll be like, oh man, I haven't seen you, Carol,

since the accident that happened 25 years ago in Cincinnati. And then he's like, a better way to do it is you have two characters be like, man, I haven't seen you since Cincinnati. And she'll be like, can we not talk about Cincinnati? And she's like, yeah, I don't really want to talk about it. It's hard to bring up. And then they move on.

And then you're just like, well, what happened in Cincinnati? So automatically, you've created this intrigue, and you want to know more. And then maybe later on, someone's like, oh man, I haven't seen you since the accident. And then you start piecing it together. Instead of just being like, I haven't seen you since this thing happened in this place where this is the and it's just like there's no nothing's making you read on because

you're like well I guess I know everything now sure I mean that's that is unfortunately something you have to do sometimes not in books but in short form content if you have to explain something, not in books, but in short form content. If you have to explain something quickly so your audience understands, sometimes you just do it. Obviously, I think it's a cop out to have a character be like, ah, the emotion chamber. When you go inside, all of your emotions will be sucked out. So stay away from there as much as you can.

Like obviously, it sucks to do that. But sometimes in like a two-hour movie for example You just have to say it get it out of the way and keep moving on so later when there's a payoff to that thing People are all on the same page rather than what was that guy doing in there all of his emotions are gone Oh, that was the emotion machine. Yeah, you guys probably shouldn't have touched that which again is a fun way to do it But it's not done often. You know what I mean? Yeah So that was a cool. He's got like little tips like that where you're just like that's pretty cool like that helps you You know write better

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What I think was the largest fish hook in the world at one point Or it has it's still there But I think larger ones have been made elsewhere also our country has the world's first underwater roundabout Also, our country has the world's first underwater roundabout underground under the ocean, not actually in the water. That's kind of neat, but what our country's most known for is killing pilot whales. I'm blown away. I was unaware that y'all were just hanging out between Scotland and Iceland and Norway. Just like right in the middle there.

I'll be honest. I'm shocked that we have, were you born there? I have so many questions for this writer and our listener. This place is crazy looking. It looks like somewhere you'd go in an RPG. Wow, he actually does. Wowee. Well currently it is 30, no it's 43 degrees Fahrenheit, light rain and it feels like 39. Humidity 96%, probably because it's raining. Pressure 29.75 inches. Visibility 3 miles, 922 a.m. Sunrise 353 p.m. Sunset winds eight

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Orgiver. You got your Sangiver. Yep, yep. I'm guessing it's Torchaven. Like a sort of, I don't even know, south of Maine, Faroe Island. It seems like an actual city city, but again, it's all relative. It seems much bigger than everywhere else. Plus there's actually restaurants. Yeah, Klaxvik's got the Rayliac Klaxvik, which is a pizza place, as we've seen numerous times. Yo, I want to go to the Tarv. It's a grill house. This place looks awesome. Tarv? But all the videos are just like one Asian dude in a turtleneck just like living his best life and I'm kinda here for it. I think all the main stuff's in the town.

Wait, there's Amarant. She gets around, she's everywhere. Yeah, yep. It's like some sort of deli. You got sandwiches, you got some breakfast stuff. Whoa, there's a- You got a bakery. Yeah, there's a bunch of bakeries, and all the bakeries,

this just goes to show the quality of the bakeries. All of them are like five star, 4.9. And they're just like a dude's home, from what I can see. Every single one of them, I look at the food, I'm like, my God, it's so clear how completely screwed we're I look at the food. I'm like my god. It's so clear how like completely screwed We're getting here in the states this one's a Friar coffee house I

Take it they got coffee. There's a seagull eating the leftovers That's how you know it's good They got why everything looks good here. So I'm saying like right at one Cat Katrina like, wow, everything looks good here. That's what I'm saying. I'm looking at one, Katrina Christiansen? I don't even know, like, the menu is super small and everything there looks so good. Even the two waitresses. Everyone looks great. Yeah, I would be very happy getting around here for like three days and

then I'd be like that's it this is all I'm already bored. However Molly's bar only two and a half stars. Yeah that sounds that sounds right. There's a four and a one star review. I wonder I've been here a few times and every time I hate it, music's way too loud. You can't hear anyone, plus it costs a lot. I can't- I'm so curious, because I'm looking at a lot of the restaurants, and this is a... territory of the Kingdom of Denmark, but between Oslo, Scotland, Ireland, and Iceland,

and a lot of Irish pubs, like I wonder, is there a big tourist season where, you know, if you go to a place that has like, for example, a lot of Irish tourists, there might be a bunch of Irish pubs, right? I don't know. I'm very curious. It's fascinating, whatever this is. A lot of the restaurants though,

the restaurants look like they are a place where 20 years ago fish would be gutted. But now are these beautiful restaurants in every dish. I'm clicking every restaurant, dude. Every dish looks like a work of art. It really does. It's shocking. I don't even know how to say the names of these restaurants. There's one place, Shiva Pack House? It could just be like a little cheesy bar, but every dish looks incredible.

Yeah, though it's crazy. I love this place. This is great. Yeah. I'm shocked we have audience here. We got to get them to get us to come out there. So all right, you're not going to go, but I'll go. Yeah, he'll go.

Well, how's the weather? All right, what's going on, sports? Sports. Oh, boy, sports. Currently, we got sports. We've got NFL playoffs playoffs currently the Chiefs have won the Eagles have won the commanders upset the Lions and the Ravens and Bills are currently tied 7-7 in the first quarter as we're recording this

then we've got the NBA standings which probably similar to last week we've got the NBA standings, which probably similar to last week. Uh, we've got the, oh no, wait, we've got the, uh, wait, no, that was the wrong one. It is still Cleveland Cavaliers up top, Boston right behind them. And you got the Thunder up top with the Rockets and the Grizzlies right behind them. Uh, then you've got the college football championship coming up. Notre Dame, Ohio State.

That'll be a thing. They were like the 6th and the 7th seed or something. They were like some pretty low seeds. Then you got the hockey standings. We got Washington Capitals up top, Maple Leaves in second. And you got the Winnipeg Jets up top with the Golden Knights and the Oilers tied in second and Baseball the Dodgers keep signing literally everyone and they'll probably win because there's no salary cap and there probably should be That's sports. Oh

Okay, what is our fact of the day? fact of the day What is our fact of the day? Fact of the day. Fact of the day. The oldest cat ever recorded was a mixed tabby cat named Cream Puff. At the time of her death in 2005, she was 38 years old in three days. Damn, that's an old cat. That is an old cat. Yeah, and it's like we talked about earlier the name they weren't like Sarah or something

They were cream puff showing that odd names give the cats superpowers to live longer. It's true. Yep. Yeah Phil not gonna make it Yep, numerous studies prove this my sources. I don't have them, but I know That's your fact of the day, oh right But I know. Uh, that's your fact of the day. Oh, right. Has anyone come to us with tears in their eyes? Dear illustrious sirs, I come to you with tears in my eyes. Would you grace us with the story of the first time you met, became aware of each other, what events brought you together to create one of the most iconic duos?

That's, I mean, that's true. That's that. Now that's a true statement. Obviously. Um, I believe legend has it that I reached out to you in regards to, uh, making a wow machinima thing for a stupid parody song that I wrote way back in the day.

Yes, that is what it was. The thing is, is I don't recall if we had met before that, that was the impetus for me reaching out. Like, if you were on the podcast or something, like there was clearly something. Otherwise, I don't know why I would have just been like that's the guy I want to talk to. Yeah I don't because like why did you reach out for my YouTube editing skills? That's what I'm saying like I don't I don't know um but very clearly that something inspired that but the first time we actually worked together the first time we actually were like hey let's do something was that was that almost you

had a old-school stuff yeah cuz I remember you messaged me in YouTube messages yep back when people actually only use that yeah I don't even think that exists anymore yeah I don't think you can message someone yeah I mean probably cuz there's numerous other ways to message people and any other social media. You are you are right? Yeah, you know Yeah Yeah, and then that was that and then I think the first time we actually ever met was Blizzcon Yes, that infamous photo where the two of us look like baby children Yeah photo where the two of us looked like baby children. Yeah. Um, so that really just great

times. So I think after that, then we, we started doing let's play stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And this podcast is because we did saints row and literally said, all we're doing is a podcast while we play this game. So you might as well just make a podcast. Yeah. That's it. I mean, it's really not that like, I wish there was a more dramatic story,, that's it. I mean, it's really not that like I wish there's a more dramatic story, but that's pretty much it Yeah, which is still insane because I get people all the time They're like I started watching you because the Saints row like 15 years ago for the shit. I'm like, oh my god Yep, it is. Yes. So alright here we go. Next one Dear illustrious sirs with tears in my eyes during your most recent episode of the podcast you discussed creating monster hunter hunter game where you play

as the monsters Krendor brought up different rat types so I ask what are other unique monster monster hybrids you'd create to put in a monster hunter hunter game oh well so obviously we have all the monsters that already exist mm-hmm right with monster hunter so obviously we have all the monsters that already exist. Right? With Monster Hunter, so you're playing as the monsters that you know and love. Honestly, I think you should have to work your way up to being like Arathalos. You start as one of the little tiny stupid monsters that people just kill for fun. Then you have to like work your way up. But if we're talking about adding monsters, I would love to add

monsters from other franchises. You know, because Monster Hunter loves doing fun stuff, but you know, taking famous monsters from other, like a behemoth from Final Fantasy or, you know, like that kind of stuff. Adding them in. And then I think it'd be fun to add in You know other things like the predator Right add in things yeah, you would you would make like collaborations with other games. Yes Yes, you will let you play his the monster Yeah, which I know sounds exactly like dead by daylight, and that's cuz it probably would be Yeah Well somebody those people are like there's games like, somebody, there's people that are like,

there's games like that, but there's no like, true game like that. Right? There's that one everyone kept mentioning. It was, what was it called? Like, Evolve? Yes. Evolve's fun, but Evolve is you're a monster and you evolve as a monster. You're a monster who is a

monster. You don't evolve, you just like, kill people and then wear their flesh and bones Wasn't evolve like multiplayer. Yeah, I mean same thing dead by like the whole idea of it being one versus many Yeah, like this wouldn't be multiplayer. No, this is the yeah Yeah, this is monster hunter, but the humans You're you're killing because they're fighting you yeah And then you're killing them and you're like leveling up from beating them as the monster and new parties come in and like obviously There'd be a variety of different party types

They're using different weapons different gear, and you're just like oh shit You got to use your unbelievable monster abilities to kill them Yeah, the best way to think about it would be, you are one of the monsters in Dark Souls. You're one of the bosses. And some idiot keeps coming back over and over and over and over again and you just kill him. Because you're the monster. And then you, instead of it being like, well, he's dead and I guess I'll just go back to waiting for another guy to show like you, you know, take their body and what are you going to do with that armor and that weapon they have? Could you hang it up in your cave? Could you like use it in your teeth so now you're like that dog

that has the sword in its mouth and you're running around stabbing people. You can do it like that's what I want. Yeah and then maybe you get different like when you get better and stronger you get different abilities that guy comes back and now you're stronger you're like now I got my super monster blast and he was like Yes, yeah, like I love that so much potential There's let's see I looked up There's ten bizarre mythical monsters. They seem phenomenal. What is the? Hicca toned

Kairis from Greek mythology. Hold on do you say this the hecka hecka ton so it's hecka ton I don't know the Kairis sure at the end but I know in Final Fantasy they shortened it to hecka ton for the for the monster yeah like that'd be a cool one because you'd kill the people in the game and then they'd like morph into your monster body mm-hmm that'd be pretty sick you'd have like the there's one is like a troll looking guy like a trogg he's got a big club like trundle from League of Legends you have that you got a it'd be like a giant boar always big fan of boars who just run around it's like getting speed me like just like stab people or run into him that'd be fun maybe like some weird hybrid be like brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a lot of Final Fantasy. I was unaware of how much this man was in, and also it's his full name.

Except, yeah, it's literally just, I thought it was just a Hecaton, but it's a full ass name. And they look- They straight up took it from Greek mythology. 100% they did, because it looks exactly like him. Yeah. All the arms and everything. So like, yeah, okay. Yeah. All the arms and everything. So like, yeah, okay. Yeah, there's so many cool things. Like a weird mountain, I see a mountain turtle here.

He's like a turtle made out of rocks and stones and stuff. He'd like just be really tanky. You know, like weird demon things, like dinosaur demons. Yeah. And imagine you dealing with the fact that the NPC characters are jumping off of trees, they're jumping on your back, they're stabbing your feet, right? And very much like in Monster Hunter, sometimes it's better to run and hide your trail because maybe they're too strong.

So then you hide your trail and they have to find you. And then that time you can heal up and do stuff and get ready for combat or find an area where maybe it's not beneficial for them to be like a cave where it collapses and it could kill them that kind of stuff well it won't hurt you but it would definitely hurt them there's all sorts of ways you could do that yeah and then instead of getting like gear and stuff like you would get abilities but you also like maybe get mutated skins so you like rough skin so you're harder to kill, and you just mutate. Well, if they hit you with a bunch of, I don't know,

like lightning attacks, suddenly, maybe your skin, your scales are electrified, who knows? Yeah, yeah, look at that. See, that's what we're talking about. And that's our answer, which is really more of just like what kind of monsters we make, but we just more went into the details of the game Why?

I did do and that's the illustrious sirs. All right. What is our big news story the day? big news story of the day Some US states not running on Dunkin Donuts due to temporary supply shortage. Alright, I understand now that's a catchphrase from Dunkin Donuts, but I was like, what do you mean running on Dunkin Donuts? What? Yup. I mean, okay. What do you mean there's a supply shortage?

Actually, never mind. I know exactly what you mean They don't make their stuff From scratch they like a bunch of stuff shows up And then they put it in a machine the machine does all the work gotcha okay never mind Please continue. I thought it'd be like how do you run out of ingredients for doughnuts, but I get it. Yep Duncan dropped the doughnuts from its brand name years ago now at least across Nebraska, New Mexico and some other states It doesn't have doughnuts on its shelves either Duncan stores in Omaha Lincoln and Grand Island in Nebraska all had no doughnuts in their cases Thursday and Friday and put up signs that their

Doughnuts were unavailable due to a manufacturing error. What does that mean? Tyler Raycar of Omaha stopped by Duncan in West Omaha early after an overnight shift as a phlebotomist? I don't even know what they do. Seeking coffee at a chocolate cake donut. What? No donuts! She exclaimed when told the location had none I need to have my doughnuts What is a phlebotomist? Lobotomous

they process of making a puncture in a vein So they draw blood. Oh, so they like draw blood and stuff okay cool vampire was already taken so yeah the trip wasn't a total loss she was or she said as she was more interested in the coffee still she was a little disappointed she couldn't get a donut hopefully they got more soon she said throughout Albuquerque New Mexico and the surrounding suburbs store after confirmed Or store after store confirmed

There's a doughnut drought some employees chalked it up to a supply chain issue and others said simply that delivery trucks had been arriving without The cargo that the chain is most famous for employees said they hope stocks would be replenished by next week Manager at the Duncan in Omaha said Friday that she could not give more information on the cause of the shortage, citing orders from Dunkin corporate. We did not give her names. It comes all the way from the top. We have no say. It was a national problem, but checks of location and other regions found no shortage of the sweet treats. What's going on? Dunkin is one of the sweet treats what's going on Duncan is one of the world's largest coffee and donut

brands with more than 13,000 restaurants the company which was found in Massachusetts was purchased for 11 billion in 2020 by Atlanta private equity firm. Where's your answer? There's your answer. Which also owns Arby's and Buffalo Wild Wings. There's your answer. If you want to know why Duncan sucks, there's your answer. Yep. By the way, last time I had Buffalo Wild Wings like a year ago, it's garbage.

Terrible. Like real bad. Yeah, I can't believe the quality drop. I remember eating there as a kid and it was like the best thing. I'd be like, dude, we're going to B-Dubs. Everyone was like, yo, can I come? Now I am like, I would rather get grocery store chicken wings. It's a better quality than what's at Buffalo Wild Wings. That's, then the grocery store, they're like,

yeah, throw it in the fryer for 20 minutes. Yeah, like it's, when I ate, like the chicken was dry, like there's all this breading. the breading wasn't even like good It was just kind of like the like there's so many better chicken wing options Pointing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jack The motto a spokesperson for inspire brand said there was an issue with a doughnuts from a single supplier that impacted stores in Nebraska And some other states all doughnuts from a single? Shouldn't they be made in the store? I guess they like come frozen and then they just thaw.

That can't be real. Why not? The fact that Dunkin' doesn't make donuts, that can't be real. They have to make them there. Duh, okay, does Dunkin' make their donuts? I mean, clearly they don't because they're getting them shipped in that's what I'm saying Or maybe that's just the case in Those states which then goes to say a lot about how Duncan feels about you know the middle of America

Wait this says some Duncan locations bake their donuts in-house, but not at all There are three ways Duncan locations bake their donuts in house, but not at all. There are three ways Duncan locations can acquire donuts. According to Tik Tok user and franchise owner, Amir Mohammed and a video shared in August, he said you can a bake them yourself in your own kitchen inside the restaurant. Uh, and I click on the article to see more. What's B? I hate that I know that it's like a you can bake them there B You can someone else in the area can bake it and then send it to you or C

Probably you get them from like the corporate truck the Cisco Oh, yeah, you can a bake them yourself in your own kitchen inside the restaurant You can have them delivered from a central kitchen, which you and other franchisees team up to build, called a CML. Or you can order J-Bod, which are disgusting frozen doughnuts. Yeah, so there you go. That's exactly... That sounds like what they did. Yeah.

Because it was not affecting everyone. It very clearly seems like these central United States Dunkins are just shipping them. Like that is foul. It's a donut. The best part about this donut is it's nice and fresh and you can dip it in your coffee. Like that's the equivalent of going to a Starbucks and getting like a Starbucks treat when it's very clearly they just open a package

From a shipped thing and it was frozen and they stick it in there like really quick microwave and they're done like I Get it. Sometimes you're just there and you're hungry, but it isn't the like Duncan people are like I go to Duncan every day Get my coffee get my doughnut The expectation this goes back to when subway was like our bread is finally real and you're like bitch What was it before? Same thing. It's just, yeah, I mean, I'm gonna go back to say what I said before.

Anytime your favorite place gets bought by an equity firm, just expect it to suck. Oh yeah. They're gonna do stuff like this. Just expect it to be terrible. Previously known as Dunkin' Donuts, the company announced in 2018 it was dropping donuts from its name as part of rebranding efforts.

No, god damn, it makes me so mad. It's like when Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC and people were like, why'd you do that? And it's like, well, no reason, just for branding. But very clearly people were like, the chicken's tasting weird. They're like, don't question that. Don't question we stop calling a chicken it's definitely still chicken wink don't worry about it just like don't get doughnuts no no no don't worry about it no it's just Duncan now we're not don't don't worry about it don't know it's like just eat it just eat it tummy just eat it or they just

don't want to sell doughnuts they're just like we just want you to buy our drinks like they're a Starbucks or something Which I guess a lot of people do but yeah still Phone and email messages were not immediately returned because they never are Bears told the Omaha World Herald that some Duncan stores received products from suppliers They're not up to standard and he would not serve them to customers he told the newspaper that supply partners had corrected the problem and his Nebraska location should be offering donuts again soon weird absolutely I would the fact that like

you can go anywhere into a small donut place and there's like a mom and pop making donuts yeah in fact there's a like I know some places like some local coffee places. They literally just get like local doughnut and bakery stuff and just sell them from there. So it's like go buy them and then bring them there and sell them in the little case. We absolutely screwed up as a society with this whole like, yeah, we'll ship them in frozen. Like there's a store, dude, there's a store near our office where it's called wild fork, I think, and their entire branding is frozen is better and it's all frozen foods and it looks like a restaurant, but it's not a restaurant.

It's a place to go to buy frozen meats. And they're like, frozen is much better than I'm like I did not sit through years of Gordon Ramsay telling me the opposite to be told this now come on like I'm sure there's some things where it doesn't really matter I feel like there's certain things where it definitely would probably taste better it's gotta yeah I don't know man. Unless there's some like food scientist that's gonna be like actually particularly so frozen or whatever like I don't know. I refuse to accept that not making something day of fresh is somehow worse than shipped.

Especially things like baked goods. Yeah like I I just, cause you have to put so much other crap into it. Yeah. To keep it shelf stable. What do you, just make it here! Yeah. That's part of it, and you get the smells of it all being made and everything. Like yeah, I agree. Um, and that's the big new story of the day.

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