Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 456 - A Civilized Conversation About Civ?

Episode Date: February 16, 2025

The boys are back and this time Jesse and Crendor have thoughts about Civ 7. And those thoughts take up A LARGE PORTION of this episode. And then somehow we end up talking about a sexy sandwich maker and delicious food in Mexico. All this and more on a brand new Cox n' Crendor! Go to http://HeroForge.com and use code CRENDOR to get 5% off all orders of physical miniatures. Go to http://meundies.com/crendor and use code CRENDOR to get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping on orders of $75 or more.

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In 4 hour recording studio morning! Recording! Beep beep! Wake your ass up! It's the Gax and Grendor in the morning! Be'm not even gonna say anything. You know what to say Yeah, I don't know word started to come out and then they slurred into one word and then that word became gibberish So yeah much like us throughout the episode. That's true. It just sort of devolves Yeah, I just figured I get that out of the way up front. You know yeah, it's fair enough Mm-hmm. I figured if anything I'm fair

That's I guess Okay, all right, I mean certain times you've been fair other times I would say you probably have not cared about fairness when when would you say that is I? Mean in terms of fairness all right. We're talking about The the the scales are tipped one way or the other right right right right right? I would say you playing strategy games prefer it to be towards you Let's be clear

It's not just strategy games it's much it's much more it's almost all the time yeah I don't want to engage in most things if it's not skip tip towards me yeah skip Thor tipped yeah I don't know you can skip the tip right towards me that's fine yeah how's your week? Dude, uh, let me tell you. I have been in like a... You know when people talk about depression? And like, ending up at the bottom of like a well, and they just can't get their way out of it? That's me except with Civ 7.

Pfft! Like I'm genuinely emotionally distraught over this. Like, I cannot express to you enough Like I'm genuinely emotionally distraught over this. Like I cannot express to you enough how much this game bothers me in ways that I just, I can't even begin to express it. It's kind of funny because I was actually going to bring up Civ 7 today and talk about how I've actually been enjoying it. Oh, I hate it so much.

I cannot stress it. I don't, I must, I must actually been enjoying it. Oh, I hate it so much. I cannot stress it. I don't, I must say for the record, I am still beating myself up for being a salty bitch. Genuinely just the saltiest. Playing with you unlocked a salt in me that I did not know was there. And I was so mad. And I think it's because at the time,

I didn't understand the game. Right? And I feel like that's just, I didn't get it. I didn't know what I was supposed to do. I was so confused. None of it made sense. So then, because I felt truly terrible, like one, I don't like being salty.

I don't like being angry. I don't like yelling, especially at friends who don't deserve it, right? Like I was just in a different head space and I was not happy. But, um, I decided, F it, I'll play some more. So I've been playing all week and I, there are things that I cannot get over that make me so I literally have a list, dude. All right. Of things. These are, these are some of the things that I wrote down that I cannot get over that make me upset. Siege and naval units are always lost at the end of the first age. You get

a free cog when you start, but they're always lost. So there's no reason to do siege or naval in the first age. Just get a bunch of settlers and walk around. Which kind of like defeats the point of... Anyway, I don't know why they have water-based tech early on then. What? Okay fine. Then naval units in the second age can only be kept if you have naval commanders or fleet commanders. Which I think is stupid. Also when you switch between ages, you can only keep a total of 6 units the age of antiquity and 9 to the age of exploration. Anything else? You just... bye. When it comes to independent city-states, even though they added an update, they still disappear at the end of an age, which I do not like. Yeah. Buildings that aren't ageless have like an antiquity thing

and they lose their jade. There's a whole bunch of stuff. The city building on top of other buildings bit, I still don't completely understand, let alone the fact that I can't tell the difference between which section is which thing driving me crazy. I have to mouse over everything. Uh, policies, some civilians, so sorry, some civilizations gain bonuses for the use of traditions, right?

These are the only policy cards that like are available between ages. Other than that, it just switches and it's like, well, if I found something I love in the next stage, I'm screwed unless I like managed to make some magic work, which by the way, you can only unlock certain next age sieves if you've done certain things in the previous age. And if you just couldn't get them to work, like let's say for some reason you got a crisis and that crisis was the plague and your entire society collapses. Well, tough that plan you had is not going to work anymore. So I like, I have So, I have so many more, right? Like not all districts have roads, right? Like, you know, there's so many different stupid things

like religion, I have a whole thing about religion and how stupid that is. Don't take that out of context, internet. Trade routes, treasure fleets are ridiculously stupid. I can't, like, it makes no sense to me that, so, all right, imagine you're a society and you have tons and tons of corn, right? That's your thing, corn.

If you send a treasure fleet out somewhere else and you bring back corn, they're like, oh, corn, dude, that's crazy. It makes no sense it should be you bring back something that isn't like you know I don't I don't know there's a lot of stupid stuff in here I genuinely I'm just like there's the thing is none of this isn't civilpedia everything I just said to you some guy made an entire ultimate list of things Civ 7 doesn't tell you. I think it's on Reddit and it's so much stuff. I'll have to find it again,

but it's like paragraphs of things that doesn't tell you. And it's like, no, this isn't Civpedia. None of it's like that drives me crazy, dude. And really at the end of the day, I think the discovery I had is that Civ 7 is an active game where you have to be focused on lots of managing, which for you, the discovery I had is that Civ 7 is an active game where you have to be focused on lots of managing, which for you, honestly, is the way you play. You love to manage things and get into it,

which I get why you like it. Me, I wanna put my like explorers on auto. I wanna shut down my brain half the time and just focus on like making my nation look cool and taking locations and whatever, which is what I would do in five and six and four before that. And I'd play it in the background if I was like editing a video or I was doing whatever. Now you have to be hyper focused on like, everyone's dying and I don't know why I guess I got to figure out what the

crisis is. Like that's, it's just not for me, and it drove me crazy, and I realized like it isn't that I just don't like the game It's that when I play it I get really stressed and stress Jesse equals yelling at crendor Jesse And I hate that Jesse. That's not a good guy that guy's a piece of shit the thing is like the Somebody who already plays numerous games like warhammer legal legends or whatever I'm used to people getting tilted in game so like it doesn't bother me I also was doing extremely well which

also made it easier to just be like whatever well admittedly I also learned stuff from you like a great example is the thing that I was trying to talk about the other day with someone, what I was talking with. Like, in the game, it has a city limit, right? And the city limit isn't like what you would expect in most games, where if it says there are eight cities

you can build, and if you build eight, you can no longer build more. No, it's like the speed limit in that eight of eight is what you should be at, otherwise people are gonna yell at you, and you can go beyond that. And yeah, you might get a ticket, but also you can go beyond it, you know what I mean? And that's what you're supposed to do.

And by doing that, which is what you did, you not only dominated, but you also unlocked an entire empire you could be in the next age. Which again, not something that the game told me. So I was like, oh okay, well I've learned this now. I don't know that I like that because in my mind, things especially in a game like that and any sort of Civ style game or 4X game, the visual things should be like, there's so much information. It should be easy to understand just by looking at it.

So when I see five of eight in my mind, I'm like, all right, I can build three more cities before I'm done with cities now until I unlock more, but that's not the case and you mouse over it and it's like, no, no, you can build more. You'll just take a penalty. And I'm like, okay, well that's cool and all, but shouldn't that be information that like is really quickly told to you? Like, hey man, build these cities, but if you build more, you're gonna, but that's like not a thing that happens. You just have to discover it.

Yeah. That's kind of what I did. Cause I was like, Oh, I guess I hit the cap. And then it was like build a settler. And I was like, I don't think I can do that. And then I did it and I was like, Oh, okay. And then it's like, you're going over the limit. And I was like, Oh, think I can do that and then I did it and I was like oh okay and then it's like you're going over the limit and I was like oh okay so that's what I realized there's things like that where it seems counterintuitive to what you're doing like another great example is when you and I were at war with Harriet Tubman which by the way still I think is hilarious I don't know why that's so funny to me but we're at war with Harriet Tubman and when the war ended, I was saved,

because I was losing, but you were about to take a city, and then it was fine. Like, sorry, nope, you can't take it, we're good. Yeah, like it all reset, which was stupid. Yeah, I think that's stupid. But, that's, you know, again, it's all preference, and so there's a lot of people out there who love it, like yourself, and bless.

I'm not gonna poo poo anyone. It's like Civ 6 6 I enjoy Civ 6 I know so many people who hate Civ 6 it's one of the things that I didn't like about other Civs was it did have that feeling of like probably what you more enjoy which is like you spend forever like building up then like just sitting around and I'm like alright nothing's really happening but at the same time there there needs to be a balance, and I think they also didn't balance it efficiently I feel like there's they went a little too far the other way instead of getting a middle ground and What I've noticed is I?

Feel like I've hit the point where I'm like just destroying the AI like I need to up the difficulty because it's too easy And it's like I've hit a point where I'm like just destroying the AI like I need to up the difficulty because it's too easy and it's like I've hit a point where I just if you are very aggressive and like militaristic you will like dominate the game like yes things that's I'm just not that yeah like I play I play I'm trying to do like like a cultural victory or a science

victory like I want to rock it to the moon You know like I want that kind of thing the thing is you can do that, but you have to start by conquering people And then it like right like you ramp so hard so like I played on Stream the other night, and I was like I'm next to Ben Franklin funnily enough And I was like I'm just gonna take him out dude he was like, I'm upset you made like six cities. And so then I just started beating him up. Then he's like, please stop, I'll give you my city.

And I was like, nah, dude. So I ended up taking his capital. And then the age transitioned. And then after that, he was just gone. Cause it just gave me his capital and he was dead. And I was like, oh shit. All right So I just straight-up like killed Ben Franklin After I took over his capital for like two turns and it was like this city has 20 turns left of whatever

It's like nope. I'm good. I Will say what's interesting like hearing you tell this story? Rings different than other Civ games because when you say, oh, I was next to Ben Franklin, yeah, I'm aware you were next to Ben Franklin, but I don't know what that means. Does that make any sense? What you said to me does not describe his civilization, any information about him, what he was doing, because he could have been Ben Franklin from the Aztecs for all I know.

Yeah true. He could have been Ben Franklin from Egypt. Like we just don't, like nothing, it's interesting because in the past if you said oh I was next to Cleopatra I'm like okay yeah so you're next to Egypt I get that or if you were like oh I was next to you know. You know they have like river bonuses and pyramids and stuff. Yeah yeah I would understand a little bit more why they hated you for having six cities but uh when you say'm next to Ben Franklin, I'm like, okay. Well, I know I know Ben I played as him, but also I don't know what he was let alone what you were like all that kind of stuff Yeah, it's I do think that's kind of weird. I don't mind it, but it definitely is weird I think my least favorite part so far is

the like intensity of the age transitions because it feels like but I remember early on I played and I got so much science and I was going crazy and it gets to the point where it's like just research a future tech doesn't even tell you what it is it's just like research future tech I'm like I don't even know what I'm doing I guess I'm researching random future techs. I have no idea and then Like when that war happened and then all of a sudden all my shits gone And then like all your trade routes are gone your cities reset. It's like I feel like there needs to be some sort of Middle ground of like you keep your trade routes you still have like maybe your armies are there

but like you keep your trade routes, you still have like, maybe your armies are there, but like, you know, they're upgraded now, or maybe you have to like, retake the fortress, or like, re-knock down the walls or something, but like, everything's still there. Like, I don't know, it feels like it's too crazy. I mean, that's the thing, is it feels too crazy, that a great example is, you know, just because Civ 6 is, you know, the most recent one besides this.

In Civ 6, there was management things you could do. So in this game, in 7, if you're stuck in a floodplain, it continues to flood over and over and over. And all you can do is repair You can't do a damn thing when I was playing with you I was stuck between volcanoes and floodplains that it made me even more upset like Constantly everything's on fire and and yeah, I get bonuses when that it's repaired cuz it's like man that damage actually revealed You know a lot of fertile soil or whatever. Yeah, cool, but I'm also wasting turns repairing stuff.

And people are like, well, you can spend money to repair it. I'm like, okay, sure. But in Civ 6, the workers you had could repair things. You could get a governor who would literally negate all damage from natural disasters. You could do all sorts of different things. And in a river, for example, you could build a dam. There is not a dam to build in this game. Yeah, that's definitely in the DLC, I guarantee it. That's crazy to me that they're like,

yeah, you're just going to get, because in six, the natural disasters came in later expansion. They didn't start you with it. So you got to play and then they added the difficulty of natural disasters, but then gave you the ability to like fight them off. And this one, they threw everything at you. So it's natural disasters plus the crises plus everything, which again I get on like a historical level is accurate. Like that's the truth when a new age dawns, it's because there's a lot of crises that lead to it. But the fact that everyone's like, just turn off the crises, Jesse. To me, that's, it's built into the game. It's supposed to be there for a reason. I don't understand why it's so difficult. Like if I'm at war and I get a crises that makes my people hate me, plus they hate me because of the

war, what the hell do I do with that situation? Stop the fighting and be like well we'll just last until the new age and at that point why am I fighting anyway because the age will end and then the war will negate itself. There's so many things I'm just like frustrated by the game that I want to love it. I want to keep playing every time I sit down and get ready to play. The first couple hours, slaps. Without a doubt I love the first couple hours slaps without a doubt. I love the first couple hours. It's great. And then it devolves so quickly into me just like spinning plates, trying to keep my cities

afloat as everything crumbles. And I'm like, this is the worst. And then it starts over again. I'm like, yeah, I feel great. And then it happens over and it's just, I hate, I hate that feeling. Oh, it's, I want I hate that feeling oh it's I want to fight robots against warriors man I well I remember you okay so rewinding I would argue that repairing your stuff is the equivalent of like workers repairing

stuff like that's not a big deal to me sure but then but then it like here's a great example in Civ 6 if volcano went, it would be like Volcano erupts, massive damage around the Volcano, and then for another like 30 turns it wouldn't erupt. It definitely has to go off. This game, every turn, my damn lumberyard burnt down. Which by the way, you know what, I get it, building a lumberyard next to Volcano, not the smartest move in the world. But, like, there's always so much I can do I only had so much space

What do you want me to do game well, and it's like little bills on top of other buildings. I'm like okay cool I'll do that this leads back to how I am currently playing which is you conquer in this game And so I am current. I just went into the modern age because I was like I want to play to the modern age I currently have 22 cities I went into the modern age cuz I was like I want to play to the modern age I currently have 22 cities I this was a game I just started the other day I was like I'm just play solo and like speed through so I started as there's ease again and then I was just building out I had six seven cities and then all the sudden Catherine and some other dude were like we hate you and I was like alright and then I started pumping horses

All right, I was cuz I go Mongolia my my path is there's ease the Mongolia you pump horse archers You just shoot everything so I just had like so many archer. I was getting a thousand gold a turn So I was just like pump in like purchasing archers all over I was just conquering things They're like please and I was like I'll take your good city for peace And they're like okay, and then I would take it be like and then later on I'll just go kill him again and so now It's got to the point where like the other continent was like we don't like you being so powerful And I was like I don't give a shit come fight me so they try

Just start killing them, and then they're like ah and I'm like I I don't give a shit, come fight me. So they tried and then I would just start killing them and then they're like, ah. And I'm like, ah, I think I'll take your city on your continent now. And they're like, okay. So now I just have, I swear to God, I'm making a thousand gold a turn. I have, my cities are just running out of stuff to build because I have so many resources. The modern age just reset my resources. I have like 50 things I have to dedicate to my cities because it all resets and I'm the but now I'm just playing something like I mean I know I'm gonna win but I'm just I want to see how the modern age plays out I even had a thing it's like you get flight but the planes cost 50% more and I was like I don't give a shit I got a thousand goal a turn

damn sounds like you were destroying but okay so I mean I'm curious if you were tried different leader does that make sense you're I'm at. Sounds like you were destroying, but OK. So I mean, and- I'm curious if you would try a different leader. Does that make sense? You're very good at Xerxes. You love that guy. And a great example is a totally different game. I started playing the new Warriors of Byss game. So it's like the Dynasty Warriors characters, but in sort of like a Hades kind of vampire survivors thing.

So I started playing that. And most of the characters, you know, when you start playing one of these games, you have to sort of build up and level and do all that stuff and you're grinding, you're getting bonuses and you're spending the money to unlock, right? But for some reason, Lu Bu from Jump is, I started playing characters and could not be the first boss. I knew Lu Bu, I beat the first boss and second boss first run and he is busted like he is flat and I get it it's Lu Bu but dudes running through killing waves of guys it's not like ridiculous and I wonder if much like that Xerxes is just really good and if maybe there's a different leader to pick to see how you feel then? Maybe because I picked him because he gets plus one settlement so I was already like well this is

good I can just get more cities so like that alone makes him insane and then you can like pivot to the Mongols which are just like all I do is I get a you get a Mongolian general that's also a really good general and he like can't get flanked and Then you put horse archers in it and you go kill that thing and it goes And then the thing dies and then you're like alright Then you go to a city and you go fire arrows at that city and it's like And then the city's like half dead and I'm like alright sick And I just make like five of those and they just all go around just Mongolian horse shoot and everything then you get buildings That you can move your horse archers through that make it

so you can skip the movement process so it gives you free movement. And then you upgrade your general to get free movement. So I'm just flying all over the board. I'm literally the Mongols. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very curious about what you think

when you play another one. So like a great example is you're playing as Xerxes, you get a trade root bonus, right? Like you get bonuses for trade roots. I don't know a damn thing about trade roots in this game. Like I was actively trying to, so like they will tell, so the game will tell you things like there's SIVs with bonuses and policies towards trades routes that's always been in SIV like it's there it's the information's there um trade routes are very important for economic victories like you can see in the uh score kind of panel all the different things the UI that says like but then there's also things they don't mention at all and this is what i think think is the problem with this game. Like, um, what are the range of

your trade routes? I mean, I don't know. I have no, I have no idea how that works. Uh, can you see a list of your active ones in the game? I couldn't find one. Uh, it says that the trade route gets you gold, but there's no information on how much. It's, and then, and then I guess like merchants maybe create roads. Sometimes when I was playing with you, sometimes they'd make a road and sometimes they would just like not, there's a lot of things I don't understand. And that's one of the issues I have is there's a lot of that. And so like, I want to play more and I want to love it.

And I, cause I love Civ, but I've never been like genuinely angry at a game. Like I don't know what came over me. I was like mad, dude. I full on tilted and I have been trying to recover from that. Like, all right, you know what? Maybe I was just, I was in a bad place or something. Like it was a bad day and I don't know what's going on and I like had pressures of life or whatever,

which is not true. None of that's true, but I'm trying to come up with reason and I got nothing except for like, I just don't like it. And that sucks because I wish I could travel back in time to how I felt in the launch of Civ 6. Cause I feel like after five, I probably felt the same way, but I don't remember having such a visceral reaction

to like, this isn't what I signed up for. Does that make any sense? No, I get it. I mean, they changed the gameplay quite a bit. And here's the thing, even if I pick another leader, I don't think it matters because it rewards being like aggressive Like when you build more cities when you go conquer people you just get ahead like it doesn't matter if I'm like whoever it just

Once you started doing that it snowballs So I almost want to play in a harder difficulty because I'm like I'm just gonna do it the same thing and it's gonna work Sure. So I mean like I'd love to know yeah, try that in fact one of the things I thought was stupid about the crisis system I don't really like the crisis system It's kind of dumb, but like it was like if it gave me Like three crises to choose from and one of them like made it So I made like slightly less gold, and it gave me like a hundred happiness, and I was like this isn't even a crises

This is like a hundred happiness and I was like this isn't even a crises this is like a bonus Like I was like so confused I was like alright Whatever and I was to the point where I was so strong that I got the plague and it didn't matter the plug just ran It ran its course. I was like I'm gonna shit. I'm already making like so much money and everything I was asking people in chat like alright. How do I deal with this plague? This is ridiculous, and they're like move everyone out of cities and out of your area. I'm like what I Can't like just build a sewer system or something like I can't we can't cure this like no you have to let it run its course

I'm like so with I'm at 96% until the next stage It's maybe four turns away and all I'm doing is moving stuff out of my cities And then I moved them all out of my cities and then my legatus still died of the plague and I was like I Hate I hate this game I really want I maybe I'll try it and turn crises off, but I feel like that defeats the it's like Playing a difficult game on god mode like yeah You could do it and you see the game but it defeats the

purpose of what the intent of the game was right I think crises are there to help slow down people that are getting ahead but what I've learned is that if you're ahead it really doesn't matter in fact it sets back people that aren't ahead and the people ahead get even further ahead that's what maybe that's the point maybe that maybe that's literally they're like we're trying to teach people something if you're ahead in life, really a crisis is going to set you back. But if you're screwed, you're really screwed. And we wanted everyone to know that. Maybe that's what they meant. Maybe. Maybe they were like,

it was like a rich get richer kind of vibe and they wanted you to know that. Yeah. I think my biggest issue is the UI still. Like the UI is just not good. There's so many menus that feel like unfinished. There's so many, like the, like you've mentioned before, where you go through the tech tree to be like, I want this tech. And it's like, oh, I can't just click it. And it researches everything. I have to like go through each one manually. Like that should be a basic thing that's been in other games, it's just not in this one. What's crazy is that that idea is in the originals because of things like we talked about

with the river flooding. And they're like, I need to get to dams immediately. So you click on the dam and you let the tech tree do its thing. And this, because there's no real need for a dam kind of situation, that and everything is limited that you're kind of just like, all right, I guess, I guess this is what we're doing.

And you, you, you build like writing to, I think that's crazy. It's like, yeah, I unlocked writing and now I've got writing mastery. Going to college, you know, it's like college 101 and 102 it's like Basically instead of giving you more options to unlock they just gave you the same option again But it makes things a little bit better Yeah, I don't like that. I feel like it's a lazy. Yeah thing. I'm with you on that I don't like that at all. Yeah, and I mean I still go to the tech tree want to research I'm like oh, I want to get to like Knights or some shit Or I want to get to this thing that gives me plus one social policy or settlement limit I'm like let's get that and then it's like nope you got a manually go through each one

I'm like okay, and that I honestly I Now believe that your style of playing and like looking at different things taking the time is how you play Like I can't get mad at you because that's how the game wants you to play Yeah, like I think this is the best I've ever done in Civ Like I'm saying like you you are doing very well at these games Yeah, and I've played since like Civ 4 I think whenever the the old-school one I didn't play the first three, but I played since four. I would Absolutely like I want to play again.

We should definitely find the time to play. And I don't care if I get my ass kicked. I just want to learn from clearly the master. You know what you're doing and I clearly don't. Yeah, it's a lot of being aggressive and micromanagement. And like even when I scout I I was watching some YouTube guy So I was like let's see is there any YouTube people that know what they're talking about this one guy I was just like well. We're gonna start with the basic three scout build

We all know and I was like three scout build. I don't know that so I just started making three scouts I'm like this guy does it I'll do it and it actually works pretty good you discover everything and then I learned that you can go with your scout to like Like if you have eight movement You can use seven of your movement and then hit the little scout reveal button and it like pops up Everything in a giant radius like it's crazy how much it shows you so I learned that So that's why I'm always like manually scouting manually like taking a ship everywhere being like where am I going? That's that's I'm telling you. That's why you're you're better at it than me

You you got you were programmed from the beginning to do this Maybe everything that I did the reason I'm like you take too long on turns It's cuz I'm literally automating everything and clicking next and that is absolutely Why I fail cuz I am not doing what the game wants us to do, and I hate that. I'm like, I want to play the other thing. Which again, I understand the,

it's borderline hypocritical of me because I can play a Final Fantasy where every single Final Fantasy is a different Final Fantasy from the last Final Fantasy, and I will have no problem with it right but for some reason when I mentally think of Civ I'm like Chill relax talking to chat goofing with Krendor not a care in the world instead of like People are dying to the plague. I got pirates coming in from the coast I don't know what the dumb about war with harry and fucking top men like that's how I feel

Stressful my thing is you put that effort into the early game and then by the late game you are on auto mode That's kind of I mean I'll wait and see I guess yeah, cuz like listen. I literally just hit the modern age I'm not gonna die like I know I'm not gonna die. I can do whatever I want. I can pump units. I have like half the map It's like even if anyone wants to attack me. I'm just like up doesn't matter I'm like now I'm further ahead because I have airplanes cuz I got the airplane tech like it's over I think I think it would be very helpful for them to give you some sort of written indication of, okay, the age of antiquity ended and these troops are gone, but in their place you got

this or you lost this, but you got this from it. You know what I mean? Rather than you having to deep dive and discover it for yourself, a thing that literally just said, this is what was taken, this is what you earn from the things that you lost. Yeah, and certain leaders do that, but it's like, sometimes you don't even know. Like, when I'm the Mongols, it turns all my slingers and archers into like, horse dudes. So I'm like, oh, I guess that was my guy, but like, there's nothing telling you. It's just like, I'm like, Oh, I guess that's what it was. When I went from Rome to Spain, I lost all of my legions,

but then I gained some sort of like gun guy and I'm like, all right, cool. That's fun. But then my assumption is gun beats horse. Yet I just got destroyed by Knights. And I was like, well, that doesn't make any damn sense. But it's because for some reason, so another thing I learned is that if you have, so in passives, if you had a horse resource, you could then create horse units.

Well, in this one, you can create horse units without having a horse. The horse gives you bonuses to those units. So I'm building horse units with guns and they've got knights. Yet their knights are more powerful because they have plus one from the horses they have and I have no horses. And it's those little things where I'm like, I only know that because they moused over things rather than just like the game being like, Hey man, did you know this is actually why that's better? I'm like, oh, okay, cool. It's just not in there.

Which I think is dumb too. You need horses to make horses. That's stupid. Right. Absolutely. I do not understand that, but that's just the thing they did. And so there's little things like that where if it just said, okay, you lost 12 legions, but we're giving you six of these dudes with guns but also this is what that got you because you don't have those legions you're saving this cash or we gave you this thing or it unlocked this or you know you sailed the world in the age of antiquity and you unlocked a bunch of stuff those boats are gone but what that did give you is they just don't have that screen. I would love that information because at least then the switch wouldn't be as jarring or like a slap in the face sometimes. Yeah and I think that's probably stuff that comes down to

just having to wait for them to add expansions and patches and everything. Yeah which sucks because you know it's one of those like $120 later it's gonna be great. Like yeah cool. Yeah that's why they're already on like patch four like they're patching it, but like you can tell they released it and they're like There's still a lot Like even the overbuilding. I'm not gonna lie. I don't even know what overbuilding does But I don't understand it to save my life dude. I hit a point where I just start building shit. I'm like, oh no, that's probably good.

And I just start throwing in buildings up everywhere. I'm like, can I build it there? Okay, good. Overbuilding, in theory it makes sense because you want to build over the things that are antiquity, right? Things that are old. But because, at least when I played as Rome,

all the damn city sections look the same. It is so hard to tell. And there's not enough information. Like, if you mouse over a thing, it'll tell you what's there, but I don't remember from the previous age what is ageless or what is something I should build over. There's no information that tells you that.

Yeah. It doesn't tell you. I'm like, well, all right, I don't want to build over my wonders, but it's very obvious that tells you that. Yeah. It doesn't tell you. I'm like, well, all right, I don't wanna build over my wonders, but it's very obvious that this thing is crap, but it's also on the same tile as something else that may actually be good. So I don't, there's a lot of planning

that seems to be going into this. Very much like I imagine if you're doing a SimCity build and you're trying to make like the perfect city, every single thing needs to be planned.'s what it feels like it stresses me out That's why I was thinking that earlier too because I was like I don't overbuild here I'm like there's a temple, but I'm like is that temple doing anything I'm like maybe it's not but I have no idea if it's not and I'm just like well bill over it I'm just like I guess it's not doesn't even matter this

point I'm just pumping buildings out my ass and then I watched this one civ guy the same civ guys to the scout thing and he was like so we learned you want to build your granary and you're like ageless buildings right next to your city because they don't get adjacency bonuses and so when you build the other they don't get adjacency bonuses and so when

you build the other things outside that get adjacency bonuses it's like tied into I don't know something like that so you always want to build your like granary right next to your thing or like things like the brick mortars shop next year you know I mean sure that's what I learned again. I just keep like getting little little Civ master tidbits from these youtubers. I mean that's Awesome like it's great that they exist But I also hate that it's like if you want to know to play watch the youtubers like it shouldn't it shouldn't have the same level of

needing to research as You know Elden Ring. Right. Well it's like one thing to learn like tips and tricks and stuff like that like oh that's cool but it's one if it's like you're learning actual like base gameplay mechanics. Yes! That's crazy to me. I do not understand that at all but But I think I've just been like a weird video game. So I played a game called Venture to the Vile. Metroidvania-y kind of game, but for some reason also Dark Souls level hard. Like enemies. So early on in the game you get heart upgrades or whatever, just like any Metroidvania, you get more life. Except the enemies, so I have five hearts now. And originally, when I had my three hearts,

the enemies that I was fighting would hit me for one. So I had three chances to do anything before I was killed. In this now new area I'm in with five hearts, enemies hit me for two. So I'm still getting hit for three every time. So I've gained nothing. I'm doing the same damage and it just, everything hurts you. The ground hurts you, the enemies hurt you, the wall.

Like it is brutal to the point where I had to stop playing. I was like, I want to love love the game is gorgeous. It looks like claymation. It has this really weird vibe to it. That's like, um, uh, imagine a British town where everyone wears a different animal mask and they all have the last name of that animal. There's like something weird going on, but like, what's it about? I don't know. There's like a cool mystery, but you're also just running around fighting monsters and like some weird claymation looking things. And it's, it's very interesting, but so hard, hard to the point that I went to the settings and this is no joke.

The settings have, um, you know, features that allow more people to play, which is totally fine with, but, uh, it just says a lot that all the settings are either one, add more hearts or two full invincibility mode. Like that is, I mean, that just says they know the game is hard and that's fine. But I was expecting like a cute,, you know, adventure through this weird town and fighting some monsters and maybe being chased by some creatures. Cause there's like a few cool chase scenes or whatever,

but that's not what it is. When you're not being chased around or doing quests for people in town, you are throwing your head against platform puzzles that kill you in one shot. Like just great. I'm like, why does this exist in this game? There's moments, dude, that feel just like Dark Souls.

You'll be you'll walk into a new area and something will hit you out of nowhere. And you'll just die. And you're like, what what caused that? And it's like, oh, that was a bird. You just didn't see it, bitch. And you're like, what? How? So I think that's I think I've decided. Remember what I I said before I just want to play easy games from now on I Mean it now I say I give games a chance, and if it's just a little bit too hard. I'm like nah

I'm done. I don't I'm not gonna stress over this Yeah, you're You're also the type doesn't also like random Kind of wacky stuff happening to you. Because it's like out of your control I guess. I do not. No there's a reason why I love Dice of War's origins and I'm having a blast. I'm like seven levels above where I need to be.

I've been grinding out quests and stuff. Every man in ancient China is like, you're a hero and I'm very attracted to you. And I'm just going around murdering countless people and I'm enjoying every minute of it. Every second, I'm like, yeah, I'm so powerful. That's all I want. That's all I want this world. Because my thing was like even going back to see what the natural disasters. I was like, oh, this is fun.

Like, I think it's cool when that shit happens I'm just like, okay, whatever but like I play kaizo iron man I play warhammer or like the dice determines so many things I play blood bowl. So like a volcano going off I'm like, yeah, whatever Like especially when you're already like 20 cities deep. There's like I yeah, whatever I mean, I think in my mind, I had the exact same whatever vibe, but I was thinking Civ 6 logic, which is, oh, it will go off every once in a while,

and then I'll just fix it real quick. Instead of it constantly is erupting and constantly burn. Like that, again, I went in there to the settings afterwards. By the way, just people are curious, because I know someone's gonna be like, well, just turn down the intensity. intensity gang Krendor and I were playing on the lowest intensity setting of natural disasters Yeah, I don't know what could have happened worse to be honest like what would that volcano have done like? Super volcano destroyed your entire society like I just don't know

Just like rises up from the ground starts beating up everybody Shooting like fireballs all over the place. Yeah, you know That'd be kind of sick Would be yes So I mean I'd be down to the play again give another go Say I mean I'd be down to the play again give another go See yeah for sure now that I have a different attitude with it I may not like it still but at least I won't be a salty little bitch cuz I 100% was just like mad at life

Furious oh my god speaking of mad at life, so I got a tick-tock About like Well, okay to stem from this I got a tick-tock about old like euro Vision songs or like euro pop type song like you know that they had the like the new manuma song That was like a mania. There's like you know all those early 2000s's like, you know, all those early 2000s, early like Europop. Yeah, I know. Yeah, like all those. So then it gave me a TikTok of like new Eurovision. All right, because apparently that's coming up in a couple months. And I don't really know that much

about Eurovision. All right. I just know it's a goofy like talent show they have every once in a while. I don't even know if that's what it is. People get mad. I just want to say for the record to anyone from Europe who just heard that, I think it's goofy like talent show they have every once in a while. I don't even know if that's what it is. People get mad. I just want to say for the record to anyone from Europe who just heard that, I think it's hilarious. It's a goofy little talent show. One of the most like watched things in all of Europe. It's a little, it's cute.

It's a little cute thing they do. What I've learned is that people take this shit like insane. Way too seriously, yes. Cause then they're showing me Ireland's like nomination which Ireland's nomination is like a Norwegian girl singing about the Russian dog that went to space for Ireland so and here's the thing I listen to that song I love that song it. It's catchy. It's very early 2000s it's if you listen to it. You're like oh, yeah, this is like 2004 again like it's it's a banger

But so many people are just like this song shit cuz she's Norwegian and we're Ireland or they're just like this song's AI And I'm just like do you guys know what like early 2000s Euro pop is? Or it's just people getting mad like they're definitely not as good as this country's thing and then I'll listen to that country's just like somebody just singing like they're on America's or like American Idol and I'm like, okay, and it's then I got to the realization where I was like it's almost like All of these things are just types of art that are subjective Damn, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost I I just realized while you were talking about that We really should do a cox and crendor watch Eurovision

I would like instead of a movie night. We just watch Eurovision I would like instead of a movie night. We just watch Eurovision Get some drinks and just watch your I would love that would be hilarious. I would love that Yeah, I would love to do that too. That sounds great. Yeah, and then I learned Australia's in this they're not even in Europe Really truly dude, I mean this in the craziest way possible I start to wonder if America is the only people not included You know what it feels like it. Yeah, I Guess cuz we're already big enough that we have like America's got talent American Idol like all these shows because we have so many states

Right, that's kind of like I wonder hold on the first Eurovision was when yeah 1956 what so I'm gonna make the assumption that this was a they were just like nah we don't need to include America and then they just never did they just start bringing in other people though. Yeah, what countries aren't in Eurovision List of countries that I'm looking for ones that aren't but okay Yeah, well who's in it is you to see who's oh my god. Just going down the list Albania and Dora Armenia Australia Austria Azerbaijan Belarus Belgium Bos and Herzegovina, Bulgaria,

Croatia, Cyprus, Chechnya, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, San Marina, Serbia, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia. Oh, by the way, other ones that have participated in the past, Algeria, Czechoslovakia, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Tunisia, Vatican City. What did the Vatican do? That's a great question.

I don't know. It's in the poll. Hold on, maybe we can find it. Vatican? What did the Vatican City could participate through its member broadcaster, Vatican Radio. What? Vatican Radio?

Vatican Radio sent someone, which I, in my heart of hearts, I wish it was the Pope. He's like, hello everyone, it's me, the Pope, let's dance. Boop, doop, doop, boop, doop, boop, doop, boop, doop. I just wanna hear the intro to Vatican radio just like you listening to bad bad people being your own your Vatican radio you know there's like oh Vatican radio in your ear the word of God oh we baptize you in the name of trance music thing

yeah I'd love to hear the Vatican radio yeah it looks like some of these countries haven't been a part of it in a while though not all I know a lot but like Morocco is 1980 that's the only year they participated like Moldova was 2005 to 2024 I guess they haven't done one for this year it looks like Russia hasn't been in since 2021 for obvious reasons like Hungary's

not since 2019 like what happened? They just like give up? COVID, I guess. That was a lot. You know, we're done. I am curious about, I mean, there's probably like an Orban thing in there somewhere. I'm sure we'll get political comments on that. But like, I realize now that it's for the most part, Europe, North Africa, except for Australia, which is just like, just like hanging out doing its thing. But for the most part, it's that vibe, which is fine. I think that checks out to me mentally. I was going to be upset if Canada wasn't there. No offense, Canada. But if they included you, I'd be like, mm-mm.

Yeah, no no, Canada Yeah, but it's crazy that China has been airing The contest I wonder does the US air it or do we have to like get it? You know in some weird it probably find it online Canada it's it's on TV there you the United States is it here in Puerto Rico. It's on WK a oh no w Yeah, W, yeah, WKAQ. WK? Oh yeah, look, you know what it is? PBS.

Oh, good old PBS. Actually, that's a lie. PBS, the last time they aired it was 1971. All right. It is airing on the Peacock Subscription Service is where it is, if you wanna watch it these days, which I don't wanna watch it there there yeah apparently in 2019 it was on oh hold on okay if you do if you do want to listen to it and you for some reason are

in New Bedford Massachusetts WJFD in New Bedford has aired it the last several years huh I mean it's got to be on YouTube and stuff, right? Like, this guy's got to be somewhere live. I wonder if there's, like, legal stuff with it. I don't know. Maybe. Or maybe, like, the VOD. Maybe the VOD will be on.

Like, if I look up Eurovision 2024, is there, is it, full show? Does that exist? Yeah, Eurovision Song Contest 2021 is on there. All songs and music videos is its own thing. Ideal Eurovision Song Contest 2024 Grand Final full show. I don't wanna see the grand final, I wanna see the crap ones. I wanna see the ones that are like you know some guys singing the thing and you're like what the hell is

this that's what I want there's a few of those I watch even I don't even understand it it's like like I get why some Ireland people are like this is weird because it's like the girl is from Norway, but she's singing for Ireland So it's like I mean does she live in Ireland now is she part of an Irish musical group I have no idea. I just know she made a euro pop song that's catchy Hey, you know what as somebody who's not from Ireland and doesn't know anything about Eurovision. I like this song I do like a catchy song every now and again, but like just going through like comments like tick-tock or YouTube They're just like this is terrible, and I'm like what?

Okay Yeah, I don't know what yeah, I don't know what you would like I Guess there's a reason behind it. I'm sure it's not one that people care about though you know what I mean like it's probably something really simple and stupid and everyone's like oh it's the worst it's like like Game of Thrones where you can have somebody fight for you yes yes do you think that the Irish were like get the Swedes to come yeah bringing back the Viking age we'll beat

them with the Swedes send them first the first wave of the attack save our good Irish boys for the end maybe they tried to you know go through a bunch of people from Ireland singing and they're just like it's just not doing it we just don't have it we need to go somewhere else. I was just not doing it. So comment below and let us know anything about Eurovision. Literally anything. Yeah, if you have links on how we can watch the 2024 or 2023, give us something recent. We want recent.

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Luckily we do have that cloud technology that allows the chapter copter to chop and Chop through the clouds so next time should be able to see but Clouds are up here. That's good if there were any clouds. What kind of clouds would you say those are oh? Man, I'd say these are a cumulonimbus weren't any clouds what kind of clouds would you say those are oh man I'd say these are a cumulonimbus oh very nice yeah I remember that one yeah yeah yeah and I think that's actually the only one I remember back to you all right thank you kind of I like that our chopter copter is able to get through the clouds

just not today yeah just not today it has that technology but like not today yeah not today by the way I did my banjo kazooie playthrough love that your annual one annual one which I was I was watching some of my old ones I used to take me like eight nine hours to beat it I got it down to six hours 20 ish minutes damn I'm a good yeah I missed my PB by a minute fifty. Would you ever consider doing speed runs of it? Like where you kind of cheese stuff? No. Or do you like the whole experience? I play it for the experience. Okay. So that's my thing. So I essentially speed run against myself is what it's boiled down to now so if I would have just remembered the how to get one of the acorns that's like tricky and you

fall all the way down the tree or if I wouldn't have fallen off the the tower on the boss area I would have beat it hmm would have beat it there's also a guy that came in the chat that was just like hey dumbass use this thing stupid idiot do this How's like dude? I I don't think you're in the right chat. This is not like a real speedrun This is a crendor speedrun where like dumbass And so uh then I had started playing and then that guy left so And so uh then ads started playing and then that guy left so As one would do well Listen I can get it if you're like an actual speedrunner person and you're used to people like playing normally and getting like all the

Glitches and the right things they're just like you're not supposed to go to this level next I'm like now. I'll just do it whichever way. I want and they're like this is incorrect They're like freaking out. I was like alright But they they weren't just like you're doing it wrong. They're just like hey stupid dumb stupid idiot. You're an idiot I Always thought that was an interesting way to approach chat Like hey you big idiot like okay first off, thanks for the warm welcome. Yeah, I don't... I guess just the fact that somebody would get mad enough to start typing like that in the chat, which kind of blows my mind. I don't even think it's a mad thing. I think people just talk that way online.

Like, it's kind of like being in a car, where you just say things that you don't necessarily mean, but you just say it and you don't think about the fact that there's just a person. You're like, Hey, computer screen, you're stupid. But really it's like, Hey, human being, I think you're dumb. Like, damn. Yeah, no, I can, I kind of get that, but still, that was my one like crazy thing. I was like, listen dude, this is a speed run where halfway through the stream, I open a bottle of wine on stream and then like pour it. If I would have did that a minute faster, I would have like PB'd probably.

But like it's not what it's about. All right, this is a Cren run. So, but still one of my better runs. That's good. Can people see the VOD on your channel? It is, it's on the Cren Clips YouTube channel. Hell yeah, that's how you do it. All the best clips from Cren.

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But what if it was affiliated with the hot sauce though? That'd be kind of cool. That would be very cool for me but alright that's fine. Yeah. Alright so over in Cholula, Mexico. 56 degrees feels like 56 degrees. Pressure 30 a.m. sunrise 638 p.m. sunset UV index 0 with a waning gibbous moon 10 day 44 degrees then tomorrow Monday it's gonna be 70 with some p.m. thunderstorms Tuesday 69 nice p.m. thunderstorms Wednesday 65 cloudy Thursday 65 p.m. thunderstorms Friday 66 with PM thunderstorms Saturday 69 with PM Thunderstorms day Thunderstorms like the nighttime. Yeah, and then Sunday 72 mostly sunny Monday 71 mostly sunny and then all the rain stops

What is the deal with Cholula? I have so many questions. So it is out. It's like Outside of Mexico City. I honestly couldn't tell you how far I would say maybe 60 kilometers outside the city, right? I don't know what that translates to time travel But what I do know is that I'm looking at a restaurant called Mary's Chiiera Los Ramos. I hope that's how you say that.

It's a seafood restaurant and there is just a bunch of horses outside. The restaurant looks very small. The food looks delicious. That ceviche looks gorgeous. And yet it straight up has the vibe of like, you would see this in the middle of Montana. And I don't know why it is a, it is a look. Oh yeah. It kind of is a look. Wait, is this, this is right by Puebla.

Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Puebla, Mexico. Yeah. It's the Puebla. No it's different. Now I went to this Puebla Mexico weather it's different. I gotta do it again. Wow it's so close. 62 degrees in Puebla 61 is what it feels like 7 a.m. sunrise 633 p.m. sunset 15 mile an hour winds 56% humidity only 8 miles of visibility and there's no it's it's a lot warmer it's in the high 70s with a lot of PM thunderstorms instead of the what were you at I was in Puebla was it the Cholula Mexico Mexico and then there's Cholula Puebla Mexico so I don't know where the Mexico Mexico is. What the hell? What? Probably it's like slightly warmer so it must be

slightly more north if it's cooler. Oh oh you were talking about Cholula I'm going to assume the state. Maybe that's where the hot sauce is. Compared to the city, gotcha. Right, Cholula, Mexico versus Cholula, Puebla are two, yes, okay, I'm with you now, I'm with you. Yeah, okay, there we go. Yeah, so now we're caught up. Yep, I assume they wouldn't say Cholula

to the entire, they meant the city. Yeah, I think so. All right Cholula do the entire thing, they meant the city. Yeah, I think so. Alright, alright. I like that. So where's the pyramid? Literally it's underneath the giant cathedral. Oh, I see it there.

Oh yeah, look at that. It's cool as hell looking, yeah. That is a cool pyramid. I love all this stuff, this at that. It's cool as hell looking, yeah. That is a cool pyramid. I love all this stuff, this is neat. I'm mesmerized by this city. It's like both country, yet it seems filled with people. Yeah. But it looks like it's the country. It really does.

Can you like drop in? Wait, now and Pina? I wonder... Oh man, they're just looking at a volcano in the distance. There's some cool stuff here. But also I wonder if the reason why it looks like country is because it's like a touristy area outside of the major metropolitan areas. Oh yeah, it might be.

It definitely has like a touristy vibe to it. All the photos I'm seeing are people being just touristy Yeah, I can see that although Valentina They sue Neos Yeah, yeah It looks pretty good. It's got a 4.8 There's a lot of a very good-looking places here

You got a club Titans they play sports Gotta See where is mother This cruise around pomodoro. This is I'm telling you dude this place. It's an Italian restaurant El pomodoro de Luisa it is 4.7 stars, and I'm looking at it. It looks absolutely delicious. Everything about it looks amazing. Even the pizza looks like real ass Italian pizza.

But what's crazy is that the building itself looks like a hacienda. Ah, I see, that is cool. But also hilariously, a lot of the menu is in English which says a lot about who goes there Yeah, it's in fact I I Thought this place said pyramid pizza, and I was like oh shit alright, and it's Much different Uh-huh yeah, what if there's a restaurant called cous cous cous

who's who's who's Yeah, and it actually looks This cous cous cous restaurant looks exactly like an LA restaurant. It's got indoor seating around a tree It's got like it's built around a courtyard. It's very LA chic. Ah yeah. But also I don't understand it. There's some dish that is completely square. I don't know, it's fried something.

I don't know what that is. I have no menu. What is that supposed to be? It is hip to be square. It is hip to be square. I learned that in 1985. Yep. I'm sure they still say that.

Didn't you say you had a story about your sandwich? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Boy, this is a great weather segment. Today I went to get a sandwich at Whole Foods because it's right near my apartment now. And I walked over, because I didn't want to get a big lunch. I to get a sandwich at Whole Foods because it's like right near my apartment now. Right.

And I walked over because they didn't want to like, you know, get a big lunch. They just wanted a sandwich. And they've got like a pretty okay sandwich thing inside there. And they have a sandwich that I really love. It's just like an Italian sandwich, but they will put it on jalapeno cheddar bread for me, which signed me up. And then they just make it really well. Anyway, today I go in and the woman

who is making the sandwiches, dude, if you were looking at her from a distance, you would think she was naked in an apron. She had like booty shorts on and like the lowest cut, tightest fitting top I've ever seen in my entire life. And she had enormous boobs, like just out of control. And they are popping up the top. But then she has her apron on, so it's like pushing it in to make them pop even more.

So her like, it's like almost on her chin. Then she's got a tattoo of a cross right between her cleavage. And I'm just like, how do I, how do I focus here? What am I supposed to look at? Just all right, I'm looking at the menu. Like it was, she turned around to go like get some stuff from a fridge and let's try to booty shorts. Her cheeks are hanging out. I'm like, what is happening right now?

What is going on? I was like, this is a test, this can't be real. Am I being punked? Like something, I swear to you dude, she had so little clothes on, it was distracting. And it was so distracting that I, while trying to order the sandwich, noticed that a large group of like,

I'm gonna say high school boys gathered around and just was like, guys, do you want a sandwich? Like, we should get a sandwich. Like, I don't know, dude. It's like, come on, guys, we gotta talk to her. Let's get a sandwich. It was crazy. There was a man with his kids

and the kids were like trying to drag him away and he was like, I think I might want to order a sandwich. It was wild. So yeah, I just don't know how to, the entire time I was like, all right, just be a, be a good guy and just order your sandwich and don't like try to stare or like, you know, like that kind of stuff. But dude, it was, I don't know what's going on at that whole food was, but she was first

off gorgeous. Second off wearing next to nothing and just making sandwiches. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I was like, all right, guess I'm getting a sandwich. Was the sandwich good? Oh, it was delicious. It was great. It's always like the sandwich I get. I don't know about their other ones, but the one that I get, the way that I get it always slaps every single time. It's been great. but yeah, it was a weird, it was a weird experience. Plus then there was some dude talking with her who I guess was the guy making the pizzas. Can you know how the whole foods have it? Like pizza place? Uh,

he was the guy making the pizzas and he was talking to her the entire time. And like, again, he just looked like a normal whole foods worker. And then if you were to look to him and look to her, she was, it looked like she was ready to go out on a Saturday night it was the crate I just don't know what was going on bless her she definitely made my day it was great but like also what yeah that's the fact that the entire like group of like doing they're trying to get second it was like five high school kids who definitely one kid had

that weird he's trying to grow a beard but he's still like you know 15 so it looks terrible and he's like yeah I'd like to get a turkey sandwich please his friends like talk to her do talk to her he's like I like a turkey sandwich please. And I also like your number.

But also she had that weird thing where I couldn't tell how old she was, where she definitely had the like, I'm, I've definitely put on the makeup and I have that tattoos of a person who's much older, But then like her face kind of had like a baby face vibe. I don't know what was going on. I was like, Jesse, you just order your sandwich and move on with life. This is sounds like a prime Los Angeles employee. It was bizarre. But again, let me stress, I thank her. She made my day. I walked in there expecting a sandwich. I got a show. It was great. I was like, okay, alright, more sandwiches should be made this way. Yeah. Exactly. Yep.

That's the weather. Alright! Let's go to sports. Sports. Welcome to the sports desk last week the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl That's true many people were happy the Chiefs lost Today the NBA all-star game is happening, and I have no idea how it even works I guess team Chuck beat team Kenny and then team Shaq is beating team Candice and then I don't know what you just said what do you mean there's different teams based off of players not like or just Shaq I guess former play don't know either I

have no idea how this works I think they just keep trying to make the all-star game fun and like it's not gonna happen like nobody cares like the players don't care they don't want to get hurt they're just there to have a good time talk to people like it's I it's more fun watching the events like the dunk contest and all that but even that has gotten worse I don't okay yep then over in hockey we've got the let's see

the standings conference we got the capitals capitals, panthers hurricanes, the best in the east meanwhile in the west it's a little more even that you got the jets up top and then the stars oilers nights and wild All right there

And then baseball they have reported for spring training everyone spring training is Right here around us the corner. Yeah So yeah, it looks like, in fact, I think the first spring training game is next week, Friday, or no, Thursday. It's Cubs Dodgers spring training. Look at that, Thursday. We've got baseball starting up again.

We're here. We've arrived. Is everybody, everybody's been anxiously awaiting. Yeah, everyone's been waiting. We've been stressing out, but you know what? We're here. Yep. We're almost at that point where I say, all right, we've started baseball. There's only 162 games to go. And then I say, oh man, we're almost through. And then eventually they play those games. Eventually it ends. And then it starts up again,-hmm as is the cycle of life

Just like the Lion King baseball yeah, yeah baseball's just like the Lion King mm-hmm exactly yeah, yeah, that's sports All right, what is our fact of the day? You can actually die laughing. I believe that. You don't even have to convince me of this. There was a time I was filming with Alex over at the Beer Bros, and this was a recent, we were playing the game, that King Kong game that came out that's very, very bad. Like one of the worst games ever made. that King Kong game that came out that's very, very bad. Like one of the worst games ever made.

And we're playing it. And there's so many things that happened during that. Like just as an example, I was fighting a boss and the boss would not die, but it couldn't kill me either. So the boss fight went on for like 25 minutes and I was mad and everyone is mad. And we're like, this game sucks and right When I get the killing blow on the boss the game crashes to the desktop of a PlayStation 5

I didn't even know that was a thing it could do. I've I Laughed so hard. I almost died like I could feel the air leaving my lungs I was my face was red. I was, I couldn't breathe at all. That entire let's plays cursed. So much stuff happens in it that makes me laugh hard that, uh, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I definitely felt like I was going to die. I was trying even on this show that one time I had a cold and you made me laugh so hard that I was like choking.

I think I can't remember that. That one time I had a cold and you made me laugh so hard that I was like choking That's it's happened you don't give it to me. I know we could have And says yes, it's possible to die from laughing, but don't let this stop you enjoying your favorite sitcom I don't think I've never left that. Oh, yeah No Yeah, never laugh that hard to sit calm. No There's just a handful of reported cases usually due to intense laughter causing a heart attack or suffocation Suffocation checks out yeah, yeah People have also been known to faint from laughing which can lead to injuries and some narcolepsy Suffers report temporary loss of consciousness triggered by laughter or other strong emotions There are some very rare fatal brain conditions that can cause

uncontrollable laughter Did you imagine? You just get the genetic lottery and get the have a brain condition where you can't stop laughing I mean, I guess of all the ways to go out. It's probably not the worst Yeah, it's probably not the worst. Yeah, there's probably, there's probably worse ones. That's still like, what if you just don't want to laugh anymore and you just can't stop? I feel like if you have a condition and you're like, I just don't want to laugh. But part of me is also just like, well, if you got to go, I guess laughter

is the best way. Yeah, at least you're having fun, I guess. Yeah, unless again you have that condition and you're just like, oh, my life is laughter and pain. Yeah, because after a while it really does just feel like you're dying if you just keep laughing. Yes, it does hurt after a while, yeah. So that might be torturous. Who knows?

I don't. I don't got that condition That's your fact of the day all right Has anyone come to us with tears in their eyes They sure have here. We go. We've got dear illustrious sirs. They come to you with tears in my eyes I come before ye and hubbly ask what song would you want to play every time you walk into a room, Copyright and fees be damned? Oh, what song? Um, is this a goof or for reals is the question.

Uh, you do one of each. Okay, for a goof, I want the Benny Hill theme song. I want that. For real, whenever I enter a room, do we have to have the lyrics? Can I get the beat and music to the, that Dre Snoop Dogg song next episode you just want the instrumentals like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like doon doon doon doon doon doon yeah I love that like when I walk in the room like damn Jess is here right it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah they're like the one that ends a Smoke weed every day. That's the song I want to play, but I don't want the lyrics. There's one the music Yeah, yeah, I'd be happy with that

Yeah, I could see that that's also what I'd imagine Alex walking around to No, Alex he'd walk around to something that you've never heard of like that's true If you if you ever go over to his house, and he like puts on his records. It's like yeah, I found this thing It's a 1960s surf band called easy breeze, and he's like it's great, dude Like that's that's the kind of stuff he would come out he come out to a song by a band You've never heard of or a French new wave album from 1952. You know, like just something crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. He really is like the ultimate hipster type of person.

Pure and simple, yeah. Oh yeah. He has a bar across the street from him that he goes to, and every Wednesday they have a different guy serve food. I went there one time, we just got like a pizza, it's manmade pizzas. Like they got a hot dog guy. They got like all sorts of stuff and it's not associated with the bar. There's the dude in the back of the bar out on the patio who just sets

up and makes food every Wednesday. I think that that really does sound like the most like Alex L.A. thing. He I went there the drink. so you think if you go to a bar there's a series of different drinks you can choose from, right? And there's a big menu or whatever. This place had exactly, I think it has like seven total drinks. There's like three beers on tap and then four mixed cocktails. I'm sure that you can get other things that are like off menu. You can ask for like a Jack and Coke or whatever, but the four mixed cocktails were seriously, one of them was like an elderberry umami blast. And one of them was like a, uh, ube slushy, like that kind of stuff. Ube slushy? I don't know what an ube is. It's like a purple yam. Oh, it's a purple yam. Okay. Yeah, and then they use that flavoring and stuff.

Oh, okay, interesting. It's very, very popular in Japan, and then, you know, it was brought here to the States because I'm gonna assume anime. You know what I'm just gonna say, it's probably anime that did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they got that, it's like a weird vibe.

The bar is cool as hell, but it also has the vibe of like pure hipster dumb which again I think you nailed the money the Alex is like the last true hipster Yeah Sounds like a movie Last true hipster the last true hipster Here's the I'd watch Alex in the last true hipster. I'd watch that movie. I would too. However, you have not answered the question

Oh, what would your music be? I was trying to think I feel like one of my songs would have to be an EDM song That's what I listen to I would love it If you came out if you every time you enter the room it played the opening bars of Sam to root sandstorm but then didn't do any sort of like actual like did it and then just stop like it was all just bits and pieces of the song yeah it's never the full song it's never the actual song people really remember it's just the beginning over and over again or is it just like go to different boy like hey what's up everybody beginning over and over again, or is it just like go to different boy like hey, what's up?

Everybody's like and that's it and there's a wait what and then later on I'm just like I know randomly like I'll be good and then every time we did Cox and Crenn door live I feel like I'd walk out to the Scatman song. I would love that in fact I think the next live show we do I'm gonna have them cue us up the Scatman theme song we come out. Yeah, screw our own theme, that's trash. It's Scatman. Yeah, Scatman. It's Scatman can do it baby, so can you, I'm the Scat man yeah? Yeah, so that's that's the other song those are the two staples the broken up Sandstorm and scat man John those are good answers. I like that. Yeah, I also was considering the Vanga boys like

You'd have to do the old man dance though you have to do the six-flag gold man the six flags Yeah Yeah, there we go right then You have to do the six-flag gold man Six Flags yeah Yeah, there we go all right then We got Dear illustrious sirs I come before you with tears to my eyes I prost prostate prostate prostate myself a prostate If you were sent back to the medieval times what jobs of jobs and or roles would you take to try and survive oh? My god, I think we've been asked something similar to this before or thought about this before

But I think we both said the minute we end up back in time Dead just dead. Oh yeah, just I would step through the time portal and some guy would approach and be like, Greetings! I am Lord Forthworth. You are on my land, sir. And I'd be like, oh hey, I'm new here. Dead. Instantly. Like you talk a foreign language. Heathen. Dead. Yeah, they'd probably think you're the devil. Yeah, there's no, there's absolutely no way way I get out of that alive. I'm definitely dead Plus like you didn't I would die just from like you didn't have modern medicine Right like just get a headache if I get a migraine. I can't take Advil. That's gonna be there man. Yeah Thanks

But if we had to if we were stuck we there, I'd probably be, I mean, I imagine I could pass for a wandering sage. Like you and I know enough that people who live back then don't know that we could absolutely bullshit our way into a middle strata of society. I don't think we could be lords or whatever. We don't, you know, that's a whole thing. But we could fake the idea of us being scholars from a foreign land who came to learn about these people and then get in and go up to court. We could do that. Easy. Yeah. No, we could definitely do that. I can see that. Or just being some sort of like fortune teller. I-hmm. I mean, we see the thing is we pass.

So one of the things that is very obvious about the time period is if you worked, if you were surf, you looked the part, not just in what you wore, but your hands were all calloused. You had this sort of like grunt, you know, we don't look like that. We have to, our skin is too smooth. We have not been out in the sun all that often. So if we showed up, they would assume immediately we were from a wealthier cast of society. And so they treat us as such, be it we immediately get robbed or someone's like, please we'll take you to the king. We would, based just on looks alone, we're, you know, we don't have crazy, I was about to say crazy long hair, but that's not true. Never mind.

Yeah, some of us do. Yeah. Some of us. Honestly, I bet I could, I don't know. Maybe I'd be a good baker. I think I'd transition quickly from like, yeah, it would be like foreign royalty to like, I could probably bake. I mean, just being logical. If that doesn't work out, I could probably bake I mean just being logical if that doesn't work out I could be a baker I guess although it said according to historical depictions Knights did have longer hair they could think I'm a knight they could again based on like if they were to look at

your hands they wouldn't see an absolute messed up hands of a man who worked in the field all his life they would see see some pretty, you know, soft hands, which is a weird thing to say. Krendor's very soft hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know. Yeah. No, it's, uh... I'd probably just try to be a knight then. But not like an actual knight, like a fake knight. Sure, sure.

Yeah, just like, I'm a knight from the kingdom of gnomes down the street the kingdom of gnomes yeah but I would be a giant among the gnomes you see sure sure sure sure I mean that seems totally fine yeah no one question that no they wouldn't and that's the dearer Austerisurs. Alright! What is our big news story of the day? Big news story of the day! Eeeeee Eeeeee Eeeeee German Hunter's Bellow Like Stags at National Deer Calling Championship

What? Yes Also, I'm going to show you this picture Alright This is a picture Uhhhh Yeah You know I'm not sure what I thought I would see, but a man deep throating a piece

of wood is not a man in Lederhosen deep throating a piece of wood is not what I thought I would see. But here we are. Here we are. The Dortmund Germany German hunters tried to convince the jury at a national stag calling championship that they can imitate a bellowing red deer most realistically. The unique tradition goes back hundreds of years and was initially aimed at feigning a stag's rival during the rutting season so the deer comes out. The trick gave hunters a chance to better assess the stag before deciding whether or not to shoot it. The competition took place Friday at the Jagdenhund, or and dog trade fair in the western city of Dortmund. There were no animals only bellowing men wearing traditional hunters garb including green hats with a tuft of camel camoy hair camel camel camois

camois I mean all those things none of it really uh I don't sure yeah I don't know what this is hold on. Kamo- C-H-A-M-O-I-S. Oh it's like a weird deer thing. It's like an alpine deer. I see. The competition took place Friday. Oh wait I read that. The hunters use specially made ox horns, triton snail shells, glass cylinders, the hollow stems of the giant hogweed, and a number of artificially produced instruments to amplify the sound of resonance. That doesn't even sound real. Hogweed definitely sounds like the name for a medicine from like, Game of Thrones. Yeah. Like milk of the poppy mixed with hogweed. I was thinking like a harry potter. It's like a sure. I mean yeah give the hogweed

a stags vocalizations are not only diverse But also very according to age state of mind and a duration of the rut during which they become Increasingly horse as well as the mood of the herd, according to the organizers. In Dortmund, the hunters were asked to compete in three disciplines, the call of the old, searching the stag, and the call of the dominant male in a pack of those, and the calling duel between two equally strong stags at the height of the rut. The member of the jury listened with closed eyes to make sure nothing would distract them from the sound. I just imagine somebody sitting there like so focused in on a deer call.

It's like this is insanely important right now that I get this right. The stag calling for me, it's the fascinating thing to play with the stag said Fabian Wenzel who won the championship and maybe shoot an old stag after calling him. That's the biggest thing for every hunter. Wenzel, a hunter from the small village of Nydlingen in Bavaria won the title for the fifth time in a row and will participate in the European stag calling championships which will take place in Lithuania in October. I just want to say and I mean this as a guy who doesn't care either way really but Have you ever just thought about how mean it is

these guys are making a noise that sounds like hey, I'm down to bang and then are making a noise that sounds like, hey, I'm down to bang. And then the stag is like, yeah, nice. And then gets blasted in the face with a gun. Like, the more I think about that, the more rude that is. It's just like, if, you know, it would be like today,

if I saw that woman making a sandwich and I was like, hey girl, what's up? And then she pulled out a gun and shot me. Like you lured me in Yeah if anything These people are just very insensitive mean Whole Foods employees

Yeah, just exactly like that yeah, yeah It is pretty messed up And that's kind of weird Like the fact that they're wearing all these things and just making these sounds and like trying to be really good at it And this dude is like so good that he's like won five years in a row like this is an insane Deer caller like he's the LeBron James of deer calling apparently so Bron James of Deer Calling apparently. So, uh, or stag, I don't know the difference. But there it is. It's a thing that happens and it happened. That's the news.

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