Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 464 - Complaining in 2025

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

The boys are back and this time Crendor takes issue with the way people complain in 2025, but complaining about it. It's a master class is complaint based complaining. Meanwhile Jesse is completely ou...t of wack due to traveling overseas and his schedule just coming completely undone. Thankfully Crendor know nothing about that struggle - or does he? All this and how to open your own amusement park on a brand new Cox n' Crendor! Go to http://HeroForge.com and use code CRENDOR to get 5% off all orders of physical miniatures.

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Starting point is 00:00:37 That was like... That was a weird one. Yeah, I coughed half way through it, so... Ah, that'll do it then. That'll do it, yeah. Um, how you doing? Good, good. Uh, been a weird week.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I've been up at 5am every single day. But I also am going to bed at like 9pm? Dang. So, yeah, and I think it's cause I was on that weird jet lag thing coming back from Finland and then in order to adjust I just started going to bed early and now I'm going to bed early and waking up early so by the time it's 7pm I'm already like, man I'm tired, what if I did nothing and then went to bed. And so that's kind of what I've been doing and it's a weird vibe because I'm tired. What if I did nothing? And then went to bed. And so that's kind of what I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And it's a weird vibe because I'm getting a lot of stuff done in the morning. Like what? I will have laundry done. I'll clean up around the apartment. I'll, uh, you know, go do grocery shopping stuff. I've gotten a lot of stuff done before 7am. It's crazy. I mean, I'm usually most productive in the morning. However, my mornings are like 1pm. Yeah, I'm trying to do it so if I'm done working, I can get in like some sort of workout
Starting point is 00:01:58 before my body is like, what if I slept, Jesse? And so far I've been doing it. It's just, I feel like I probably should do've been doing it. It's just I Feel like I probably should do it in the morning, but I just can't I'm not a morning workout person We've talked about this before I just can't do it. And so Yeah, I need to wake up jump in the shower get awoke and then I Take the time to like get stuff done and it's been you know what it's I've been doing pretty well at it. Huh well that's good now you're you're in the like your productive era.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah we'll see how long this lasts I'm sure I'll have one really long night that'll screw up everything but right now even as we record this I'm like what if I got a blanket and just sat on the couch for like an hour and like maybe I'll fall asleep there who knows that'd be crazy. That's always the, that's like both good and bad because I always hate sometimes I'll fall asleep like a little bit before I'm supposed to go to sleep because you're like watching TV you're like chilling and you're just like dozing off and sometimes I'll like doze off just long enough to where it makes actually falling asleep harder
Starting point is 00:03:06 So you just fell asleep. You know I mean yeah. Oh, no I get it that I mean that's The reason I was so messed up coming back from Finland is I took a nap and the nap screwed me up And then I ended up waking up the next day very early And then I was like well just go to bed early tonight, and I went to bed early and now here we are I'm up every day at 5 a.m. Oh man cuz yesterday well I had to wake up for the geek enters of course. I don't by the way I don't know how or why you did any of that because I saw the night before you were streaming late yeah then you woke up and then Dodger was like can we start an hour later and then I saw you streaming at night again
Starting point is 00:03:49 yeah you're madman well here's the thing I I've pretty much established my schedule which is like going to bed at like 430 a.m. ish give or take like a little bit but that's like usually when we go to bed and so 430 a.m. Ish give or take like a little bit But that's like usually when we go to bed and so I'm always like okay Like even if I wake up early one day, I'm like I'll just get back to normal the next day So that's kind of what I do Because otherwise then I'm gonna start like reversing my entire schedule throws off my clock and then it's gonna slowly work It's way back to where it is now.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So I'm like, it's better just like to keep stability. I just like it being consistent. So that's why I do that. So yesterday I had the thing where, you know, when you wake up and you can't go back to sleep because you know, you have to wake up for something. I think we talked about this. Oh yes. Oh yes. Been there. So that's what happened. So like I went to bed, it was like 430, I think I was there a bit, so I fell asleep like 445
Starting point is 00:04:52 or something, whatever. And so I woke up and there was just the people, the whatever is like lawn mowing outside. I don't know, they're leaf blowing, lawn mowing, they're doing all the. They're leaf blowing lawn mowing They're doing all the Owens and what I was like okay for you Well, I checked my clock. It was 8 45 so you got about four hours of sleep Yeah, so I slept like four hours, and I was like okay. You know what? Geek enders is until like 10 my time, so I'm like I can sleep another hour. It's like five hours like that That's not happening well I laid there and then I was like I got a
Starting point is 00:05:28 pee so I got up to pee and I came back and then I was like just maybe like 30 minutes again and I was like you know what I don't think I'm falling back asleep and I was like you know what that's fine uh that's and then I look at my phone and Dodger's like what's delayed now or not like are you kidding me the one time I'm like awake ready to go and she's like oh not yet I was just like alright so I saw your message and I knew I knew just from reading the text that that just was a hit to the gut yeah and I was like okay maybe now I can sleep.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I got another hour or whatever and then nope. So I just got up and I just read my book. I was like, all right, and I looked outside. I was like, there it is, daylight. Yippee. And then after that, I made my coffee, then we did the geek enters. But then all day, I was just like I Was just half the half there half not there Then after that we went got brunch
Starting point is 00:06:31 So I was still kind of like uh But then once I ate brunch once I like actually ate food It has some more coffee then I was going so then we like got errands done We went all over and I was like alright. I'm feeling pretty good now. I was like you know you're still in that kind of like days but I'm like rolling, the blood's pumping but then once you get to night time that's when you really start being like oh boy I'm getting tired and so we were just like you know doing our normal stuff and then I was like I'm gonna stream because like it is normal when I stream may as well Do it go to bed normal time, so I was like all right here. You go stream. I was still like
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know half half there. It's like all right So after stream, then we were just chillin. We were watching the apothecary diaries It's a good anime if you have all right. I was about to ask what that was but now you said anime I'll never have watched it Yeah, which is understandable, but I'm picky with anime. Apothecary Diaries though does sound like a CW show It's not really a CW It's more like a... On after Lewis and Clark on CW. Apothecary Diaries It's like an apothecary girl is kind of like a Sherlock Holmes.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That's what that CW show would have been anyway. Except there are two guys that's into her. One is some sort of wizard and the other is like a some sort of sage that knows how to mix chemicals. He's more into science. the other guy's more into magic and she has to pick like where's her heart lie? This is uh it's just like a he's like a leader guy that's like royalty or something or like he's he's hiding it. I don't know it's something like that. I like the mystery of it. So I'm like I think it's fun. So anyway, it's we were watching that we watched it and then I
Starting point is 00:08:33 Was like all right I'm just laying here, and then I did the thing I started dozing off and so I did the I you know It's that feeling you get when you're like okay. I'm pretty tired, and then all of a sudden you're just like Yeah, I do pretty tired. And then all of a sudden you're just like, then you jolt awake. Like I had that and I was like, oh, I was like, I can't sleep yet. And then I think that did something because then when I was like, all right, here we go, time to finally sleep. I couldn't fall asleep. And it was like my normal bedtime and I was laying there and I think it was the
Starting point is 00:09:02 anxiety and by I think, I mean, I know it was the anxiety because I was laying there and I think it was the anxiety and by I think I mean I know it was the anxiety because I was laying there and I was just like alright here we go time to sleep and then your brains just like but what if we don't sleep what if we can't fall you do that too much to yourself the exact same conversation surely should know by now that you will sleep yeah cuz I'm like brain every time we've been in this situation even we can't sleep we do end up falling asleep at some point and then I'm like, brain, every time we've been in this situation, even when we can't sleep, we do end up falling asleep at some point. And then I'm just like, yeah, but what if? And I'm like, oh, now I'm getting kind of hot.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And then you take the blankets off and you're like, oh, and now I'm like turning. And then it took me like an hour and I finally fell asleep. Do you have a fan in your room or something you can just blast yourself with? Uh, well, we got an air pur purifier which is just like white noise and then we don't really use fan, we have air conditioning but it's a bit... You could do like a little on put it on low, point it on yourself while you're there so you get like you know it just hits you and not toast that kind of thing. Well we have like the whole house air conditioning. I understand. I'm just saying like a little tiny fan does wonders.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Well, the thing is like normally I'm fine. I think it was just the, everything combined of like already being tired, being anxious, and then just being like, uh, and then I was just like laying there and I was like, okay. And then eventually I fell asleep and then I woke up and it was like 11.30 and I was like more sleep. And then I woke up and it was like one. And I was like, all right, I'm good. But even today, I feel like that it's like the post
Starting point is 00:10:39 no sleep. It's like, I'm still, I'm feeling all right but you're still kind of like man, it's gonna be one more night of sleep and then I'll be good anyway I don't even remember what the geek enders right right this is all because of one having to get up early and it
Starting point is 00:10:54 ruined your entire couple days it did why I hate getting up early this is why it's a quarterly crendor and not a frequent crendor as well. Glad I could upset your schedule so much. It almost makes me feel like I'm involved in your life. Thank you. Yeah. Just in there ruining things.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But, you know, today back in the gym. Doing my stuff. So it's been good. Uh, I don't even remember what the main point was. It was just, I hate, I hate when my schedule stuff gets messed up. I'm like a, I'm very much a person of routine. Which is why I'm like, I don't even care what time I go to bed as long as it's the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Like I like doing the same stuff, wake up, do my things. That's it. I don't like when the routine breaks. Like I don't do, I don't know how some people do it. Like when I was telling my chat, I'm like yeah I only slept like four hours, this sucks I was telling my chat I'm like yeah I slept like four hours it sucks whatever there's people like dude I sleep like four hours every night yeah that guy's probably like 21 though dude no there's like there's some people in there they're like I've done that for 20 years like I'm like 50 that's a problem yeah and then somebody's like well there's like you know about 1% of people that are
Starting point is 00:12:03 able to do that and I'm like well I guarantee Everybody talking right now is not part of that 1% I wish I was I want to live in a world where I only need four hours of sleep a night that I get so much done oh Yeah, that'd be a minute cuz like I Just I can do like one day of like sleep deprivation like that And I'm like I gotta get back to normal I can do like a couple days like sleep deprivation like that and I'm like I gotta get back to normal I can do like a couple days of like six hours of sleep or something where you're like, okay
Starting point is 00:12:29 This is alright, but like I need my like seven day Yeah, I would be so happy to do like Sleep at 4 a.m. Wake up at 8 a.m. And everything's fine I get I get so much done especially late at night Sometimes at night is when the ADD hits and I'm like oh there's so many things you can do right now that's true I think a lot of that's probably you get less anxiety about like falling asleep more anxiety about doing stuff and like getting things done yeah yeah I mean when it's time to sleep I sleep there no, I don't know if I can sleep, I'm not sure. 99.9% of the time if I need to sleep, I'm sleeping.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And I've been told numerous times by many people that I am gone. When I go to bed, I go to bed. That's crazy to me. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I talk about it like numerous times and it still blows my mind my biggest concern This is absolutely true is I'm aware sometimes I definitely snore it just happens Um, and I feel terrible because I automatically I just know I'll fall asleep and to every woman who has been in my bed I must stress my apologies That sounded weird and it mean it is sexual way I mean it in a when I go to bed, I go to bed.
Starting point is 00:13:47 There is no like, let's cuddle and talk about our feelings. If my eyes close, you've lost me. Gone to the void. I will disappear to sleep. I will fall asleep so quickly. That'll be it. There's no, like, the amount of times I've had a person in my life, like, cuddle up on me,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and I'm like, yeah, sure, okay, and then I wake up the next day. And I'm like, well, I hope they got what they wanted out of that because I was gone. And then I think about the fact that I'm literally just like snoring in someone's ear. I know it's probably terribly disrespectful, but with that said, you know, Mrs. Cox is gonna have to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:14:33 If I'm ever snoring, Toast Woman like wakes me up and then I'm like, uh, she'll just like roll me over or like push me. And then usually I remember because then it'll be like, uh, and then I'm like, oh, I must have been snoring and I go back to sleep. Oh, I need someone who's like, I like the snoring because it makes me, I don't know, something horny preferably, but whatever. I don't know if that's... But what if it is though?
Starting point is 00:14:58 What if the one person out there is waiting for me? Huh? You never know. If you find that person they probably have like other red flags throughout their life that's fine there I got plenty of red flags we can combine them together into sort of some sort of red quilt what's your main red flag working too much yeah probably not knowing how best to manage work-life balance. So yeah, I know most people would be like,
Starting point is 00:15:26 like on the weekends, for example, I think, man, I could stream right now, rather than most people on the weekends are like, let's go hiking up in the mountains and get lattes. I'm like, I could get so much work done right now. I don't have to do all the normal week things I have to do, like work on games or edit stuff or do, you know. I'm on the weekend. I can stream which you know, I don't need to but I like doing it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I'd say that's a common thing in our profession though, because people always, you see so many people, they're just like, alright guys, stream on the weekend. I mean I stream on the weekend. Sure. But there's like some people, they're alright guys 12 hours stream from some like convention I'm gonna walk around like PAX East I see so many streamers just IRL streaming it and it's just like that's on top of their normal streams and I'm like dude I don't know how they do it I think the reason why they do that is the same reason why I will say I don't want to play a game unless I'm streaming it because I feel like I'm wasting the time. And so I think when people go to conventions, they're like, well, I'm going to stream because
Starting point is 00:16:36 otherwise I'd just be wasting my time when I could be streaming. And I feel like that is the next level up from where I am, where I think, oh, Saturday of a free day, I'll go stream versus a person who's at a convention. When I'm at a convention, I want to stream. I want to like talk to people and walk around and see stuff. I don't want to be working, working. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. So I think there's some people that's that's it's like what you've said is bled into all aspects of their life where they're like if I'm going to this thing I got a stream it if I'm gonna you know like do anything
Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm gonna stream it. It's like their entire life just becomes streaming. Yeah, it's very very parasocial there's a lot of streamers who that's their whole thing is streaming and people watching them and reacting to their everyday interactions, which is... I mean, that's like... That's too much. That's too much for me. I'll be happy to be in the background of one of those and be like, hey, and then move on with my life.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But I don't want people to look at everything I do and comment on every conversation I have and everything. Like, that's too much. Yeah, we already get enough of that from normal internet. Yeah, I uh, oh my god, dude, I posted the video clip of you and I doing that goof about the sandwiches and the reaction to reaction. Yeah. Yeah, posted that.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Some dude over on blue sky who clearly was a troll right like yeah when I reported his account he was immediately banned by blue like apparently been doing in a while but he responded to it again this is there's nothing that I said in this video there's something you said that's controversial nothing he literally posted an image of like I assume was supposed to be me hanging myself What like it was just an image of a person hanging himself, and that's all he sent me and I was like what? Yeah, that's probably not the first time they've said yeah, I was just like First off it was on blue sky which shocked me but second off. I was like yeah, you're only that's for Twitter Yeah, and I was just like... First off, it was on Blue Sky which shocked me, but second off I was like... Yeah, only that's for Twitter.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah, I was like, what? Even this, which is a non-offensive video, dude was like, I hope you die. That's crazy. But that's, yeah, social media, baby. It's so much fun. So why the hell would I want that all the time? Yeah. I still remember, we played...
Starting point is 00:19:03 I can't remember what game we played. One of the games we played, some guy on he's just like God if I was supposed crendor was dead like what it's like I played a game on the internet it's just like God like I imagine I just can't even imagine watching somebody like even if I didn't like the person on YouTube and just typing that out of just like God if only this person was just dead dude. Like okay. I want to believe that you shouldn't judge people for just a comment on the internet because who knows what they're going through. But some of y'all, I'm judging. Some of y'all I think are trash people. Like there was one guy to this
Starting point is 00:19:43 day I still think about him where he responded to every scary game squad with, I wish Jesse wasn't part of scary game squad. Like the thing that's on my channel that is mine. He was like, I hope this guy leaves. Like, wow, okay. Pfft. That is, that's actually pretty funny, the fact that he wanted you gone out of all the people.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's your channel and you did the thing. I'm starting to believe truly that, and I've felt this for a while, but I'm starting to believe people just are dumber than they were before. And I don't know if COVID really was the nail in the coffin for idiocy, but I saw a guy post a thing. It was like a Marvel related thing where, uh, have you seen Thunderbolts at all? Do you know anything about that? No. All right. So Thunderbolts actually like a pretty good damn movie considering it's Marvel,
Starting point is 00:20:36 but, uh, one of the characters in it is from the Disney like TV shows and he's basically, um, if Captain America was an asshole, he's the guy who takes over for Captain America afterwards. Then he kills a person and then he gets sort of like booted out of being Captain America. Then they give it to a different dude. Right? So this guy, John Walker, is an asshole. He's us agent now and he's working for like undercover people, but he's a piece of shit. He's like not like undercover people, but he's a piece of shit He's like not a good guy, but he's also a good guy
Starting point is 00:21:07 You know what I mean? Like he's he's the the the asshole with a heart of gold that kind of vibe Yeah, so I saw a meme where this guy I think I might have actually taken a photo of it for you just cuz I was so like I think people are dumb Yeah, so it's a photo of him and it says writers you need to hate this guy. Audience. No, I don't think I will. Now let me just say for the record, the person who made that meme thinks that the writers for this film Thunderbolts made a character specifically so we would hate them. Yet having seen the film, they go out of their way to make him a lovable asshole. So this person, their media literacy was, Oh, that guy is an asshole. We're meant
Starting point is 00:21:53 to hate him. I love him so much. So clearly I'm getting one over on the Marvel writers. Which is a crazy thing to take away. They, The reason you felt the way you felt was because someone wrote the script to make him say those lines and act that way. Yeah. So why? Like, the minute I read that I was like, oh no. That person's just stupid. Hahaha. You just added yourself as having no media literacy whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Well I've heard that it's pretty common now that a lot of literacy stuff is like way down. That seems correct. A lot of just, like being able to just analyze, God, what's it called? Where there's like undertones and subtleties behind the writing or behind whatever it is. Like people aren't picking up on it as much and it's cause it's not being taught as much now or if it is being taught, people care about it less or they're just going to like chat GPT, type it in, like learn this shit for me. Honestly, I think that's a lot of it too
Starting point is 00:22:54 is people don't have thoughts anymore. They have a question, they ask a computer, the computer tells them the answer and they didn't do any actual work. Yeah, which I would say that's probably the biggest thing. It's like not that, I would say it's not that people are dumb, it's just people are lazier. And now they're being rewarded for it.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Like now it's easier than ever to be lazy. Cause like, if I was a kid, I'd probably be doing that too. Right? It's just like you're a product of your time and your environment. But you know, it just so happened our time was, we were limited by what we could do on the internet because you had dial-up internet and there wasn't as many things and everything was slow as but now it's
Starting point is 00:23:32 just like it's everywhere and it translates you know I'm sitting here talking about Marvel but like I think it translates a lot to YouTube videos as well like I know that you've seen comments on your videos where you're just like did you even watch the video I made? Same thing, you know, across all of it. And I'm just so fed up. But I saw that meme and was like, yo, this, I think this person's dumb. I was like, I got to share it with Crendor cause that made me viscerally upset.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah. Uh, yeah, I was thinking about that. I can't remember what exactly it was, but I was just something that was talking about media literacy being down. So that's got to be part of it. That's why. Oh, my God. That's what the YouTube video I just made about the wow one button thing. Like, I swear to God, the amount of people are just mad because they're doing that.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It like blows my mind. Because like, so if you don't know, wow is doing a thing where they're doing that. It like blows my mind because like so if you don't know, wow is doing a thing where they're doing it. So if you want to do your rotation, you can just press one button to go through your rotation. Now, does it auto program the rotation in for you? Or do you just have to know what it is? It's all depending on your talents, depending on your class and spec. It'll like do your best rotation for damage.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Interesting. Now, people clearly hear that and they go, It's playin' the game for ya, they're makin' it dumb for dumbo idiots, right? But the whole thing is, they're saying, they're not adding interrupts into it, they're not adding like, A.O.E. cooldowns into it, they're not adding healing and potions and all this stuff, they're not adding like a AOE cooldowns into it they're not adding healing and potions and all this stuff they're not making you move your character it's literally just DPS rotation they're not like doing anything else and they want it so that if you learn how to play or if you want to play like an alt for example and you just want to do some random shit and you
Starting point is 00:25:20 forgot how to play your alter you don't know how to play it you just hit the button and there you go like you can just do some stuff or maybe you're a new player and you don't know what to do, and you can hit the button and be like, oh, this is my rotation, I see what it's doing, and then you can kind of learn from doing that and then do it on your own. Because the premise too is that it has a cool down, like a global cool down behind it. So it's actually like worse to do it because it's doing it slower than if you were to actually do it and so in addition to that they added in like highlight
Starting point is 00:25:50 buttons where it'll pop up what the best ability would be to do next so it'll be like you should use mortal strike and it'll highlight more mortal strike and be like you should use rend you sure this next and it kind of recommends what the hit which people already use cause there's add-ons people do this shit with for years.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like I used HeKilly and that literally just tells you how to do the next three buttons to hit in your rotation to have ideal DPS. So like that's why they're doing it cause add-ons already do this stuff. And then people are like, they're making the game dumb. It's like everyone does this except for like new players that don't know what they're doing and they're just trying to help new players out. Or people with like, they're making the game dumb. It's like everyone does this except for like new players that don't know what they're doing and they're just trying
Starting point is 00:26:25 to help new players out. Or people with like a accessibility stuff or like whatever. Yeah, also this is, it's such a weird argument to have cause I imagine every single person having this argument, every single person is upset, was around for years when they had one button macros. That's what I was saying. Like Paladins, Paladins, if you were a ret Paladin, all you had was a one button macros. That's what I was saying. Like Paladins, if you were a
Starting point is 00:26:45 ret Paladin, all you had was a one button macro. It was designed and it was put on forums on how to use it until Blizzard was like, sorry guys, we're not going to let you do that anymore. But it was years, like years of that. Yeah, that's what I was saying too. It was like they've had macros. When I played Classic Wild Warlock the other year, my rotation was like shadow bolt, shadow bolt, shadow bolt, shadow bolt, shadow bolt, shadow bolt. It's pretty much a one button rotation already. Like and now there's like so many more things in the games, the game compared to back then, where it's like you have so many more effects
Starting point is 00:27:20 going on and so many more things we got to move out of and things you got to stand in to trigger stuff and like interrupts and layers so much more than there was even in like the older version of the game that like who cares if like a DPS gets to slowly go through the rotation at a better rate than they would if anything that'll help people like with LFR and shit yeah this to me this only seems like a good thing because it more people have access to be able to play the game at an efficient level. And if you're saying that it isn't going to be as damaging, uh, because it is a
Starting point is 00:27:55 little slower than eventually people who want to do more damage and want to be in the more hard content will learn to do it normally. And those who don't, who are casual will continue to just enjoy pressing the one button. Like it, it almost feels like so in Final Fantasy 14, um, they have, you know, like the highlight what to prex nest on, on some things, but many jobs are just a cluster F of buttons. Some aren't some are pretty like just press these three and you're good.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But in PVP, they simplified it. So it isn't your normal button rotation. You have a whole new setup where it's like, you'll have one button is three attacks in a row and you keep pressing it, you'll do the three attacks. One button is like your two or three AOEs all in one button. And so basically it's everything you would normally do, but instead of being a whole series of multiple hot bars, it's now five, six total buttons. And it makes it easier because in PvP you're running around, you're dodging AOE things, you're in huge battles, there's like 72 people fighting. It's much simpler to just focus on six things, like a MOBA, for example, rather than trying to do 50 things on a hot bar.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's the way games are going. More and more games are like, yeah, you're going to move more and press less buttons. That's the way online play is now. And the fact that there are people who would get upset about that, I'm just don't like change the sake of not liking change yeah it's one of those things where they also it's almost like a gatekeeper type of thing like you're just making the game dumb now for all the modern players they're not like me the old player that made my own macro I made my own one buttons yeah now they give you that it's like that type of attitude if anything I would say people are are they're not less
Starting point is 00:29:53 intelligent than they used to be I think it's they're more easily manipulated and brainwashed and I think that goes through intelligence yeah I'm just. Well, well, I'd like conspiracy stuff, too. I mean, there's plenty of smart people involved for conspiracies. It's just I think it's because of the advancement of all these companies as well that know how they have teams of marketers, teams of psychologists, teams of like everything back when you had phones for the first time with apps, they'd be like, let's see. This is a fun way to do an app.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Now every single thing is like studied. They've got data on it. Like what will keep people clicking? What will keep people doing this? Like they, they've almost hyper-analyzed the human mind to a point where they're like, how do we get the most money and the most viewership out of people? And now everybody does it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like literally everybody. And so that's, and so it's like, unless you know the system that you're in, like it's why old people on Facebook are just all over like, can you believe I saw this thing on Facebook Reels? And it's like first that's not real, first that's AI, next that's like there's no source, but like they're all falling for it because like they've already, they don't get the system and they're just being manipulated
Starting point is 00:31:07 easily. Like even I've gotten got by AI before when there were big fires in LA, someone posted the Hollywood sign on fire and I sent it to Alex and Davis and was like, yo, this is crazy. And Alex was like, that's AI dude. I was like, what? Yeah. And it was, it was totally AI. It was just, it was not, I don't know, maybe like eight or nine AM. I had just woken up. It was like, that's AI dude. I was like, what? Yeah. And it was, it was totally AI. It was just, it was not, I don't know, maybe like eight or nine AM. I had just woken up. It was like, Oh my God. And so I wasn't even half thinking. I literally could have looked out the window, you know, I was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:31:37 all right. But it, it, yeah. I mean, anyone can get got by it. I just think that a lot of it requires taking time to think and also listen like If Alex had said that's fake and I said no dude. I saw it on the it's real Then that's a me problem same thing with them if I you know, I think all the time about conspiracies You know, I do a whole other podcast about them. Yeah, it always amuses me when it's like Dude, this is this is just an example, but I think it's hilarious where it's like, the government knows about the aliens, they are in league with them.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And then in the next breath, the aliens are running the show and the government can't even stop them. It's like, all right, well, what is it? Are they in league with them or are they not? The aliens not want to, like, you can't just keep saying things and hope half of it sticks it's not a horoscope. Yeah it's because I mean yeah that's again that's like the big conspiracy part of it. I think it's easy to fall for conspiracies because a lot of time conspiracies can't really be disproven which makes it be be like, you never know, but then at the same time,
Starting point is 00:32:46 there's things like Occam's razor, where it's like the most obvious solution is usually the correct one. And so I think it's just for a lot of people, it's kind of fun, it's like mysterious, it's like somebody's out to get me, someone's making this Marvel character because they're trying to manipulate the one,
Starting point is 00:33:02 and it's just like, I think they just made it, because they made it they thought be fun it's just like that type where it's just a very basic thing it's like sure sometimes you're gonna be wrong but most of the times that's really what it is yeah it sucks because even on the show when I'm when I absolutely know something is just bullshit I have to say okay there could be a 1% chance this is real yeah but for the most part when I hear something I will say that's not, that's not real and then the pushback will be like what do they have to gain from this? I'm like ego? People pay attention to them? Like but I'm not getting money and they look like fools. I'm like
Starting point is 00:33:36 yeah but not to the people they care about. To the people they care about the attention from. They're getting it. It's not that human beings aren't that complicated. Yeah you're very very right. It's a very Occam's razor. Like, why would they do this? Because it got them attention. Yeah, it's, uh, well it is kind of, yeah, it's odd because like humans aren't that complicated, but at the same time they're extremely complicated. It's like everybody has the same type of, it's like the, what do I say? It's like everybody's this, like a computer. Everybody's got a motherboard. Everybody's got a graphics card, right it's like everybody's this like a computer everybody's got a motherboard everybody's got a graphics card right but like everybody's desktop and games and everything there and browsers everything on their computer is different which makes everybody like
Starting point is 00:34:15 different and complex in their own way but everybody's made up of the same parts and so all the marketing and psychology people is figure out how to manipulate those like base parts of you And unless you know that that's happening you can fall for it easily. I think that you're correct that we're all very complicated Personally, but I think socially Humanity's needs are pretty simple like psychologists have nailed that down like we're very You know we're very basic on sort of an animalistic level of what we crave.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Like we're social beings who crave the approval of groups and cliques and having a home of our own and finding one that we can lead is something that a lot of people deeply desire. Yeah. It's not everyone clearly, but like, you can see it when you see it. And I think that that's also, it translates to, you know, the click of I'm an important person in WoW
Starting point is 00:35:14 because I spent all this time learning to play and I'm the top of my field in this game and how dare you ruin that for me. That's the, it's actually the common thing I see with a lot of WoW people who complain. They'll be like, this game hasn't been good since wrath of the lich king or like this wasn't good since all those old expansions but then and then they'll play classic wow but they still complain about retail it's like why do you care you don't even play it so like this doesn't even involve you
Starting point is 00:35:38 because you're not going to ever use it but it's like the it's like the need of being like, I need to correct this because it's not the way that I want it to be. And it's because it's like on a deep personal level of like, I played this game growing up, I played this game a lot, like I just want it to be how I want it to be. But the problem is so many people want it to be different ways that you're never going to get it to be the perfect way that you want because somebody else wants it a different way too. And I don't envy Blizzard or you know any MMO company or MOBA company whatever any online gaming company because you have the people that are hardcore that want it a certain way and have always wanted it that way and they're the ones spending all their time playing but then you have a much larger casual player base and you can't alienate them either. And you have to make it more accessible because those casual people are also your biggest money
Starting point is 00:36:31 spenders. Yeah. So like, you know, I don't envy it. It's a tough position to be in. It's why I'm no fool who's making online games. That's insane. Yeah. It's a manga for a lot of different things, like even, uh, like restaurants or whatever. It's like the line of, do you cater to the like frequent customers or do you cater to the general public? Cause one is going to make your fan base happy. The other one's going to get you new fans, right? So it's like, you have to kind of walk in the middle, but it's uh, yeah, it's tricky.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, I mean, it's just weird because we've been around so long, we've seen all these ebbs and flows, and I think it just comes with time. Like you learn a little bit of patience of just like, yeah, it's not that important, it's just a video game. It's, I mean the funny part is like again we've been around so long I mean I started making videos in Wrath of the Lich King and I remember you can even just watch my old videos people be like this game sucks it's not how it used to be and now people are like man back in Wrath of the Lich King I'm like hold on there's so many people
Starting point is 00:37:40 back then that said it sucked. Yep my big worry for when they were doing Vanilla Wow and the, or, you know, like the, the old school stuff. And they were like, we're making it Cataclysm now. I was like, oh, that's not, that's not old school. You're not doing, you know, Vanilla Wow anymore. It's not classic. And everyone was like, I'm so excited for Cataclysm. That was the best. I'm like, dude, I remember all of you telling me I was a sellout for liking Cataclysm. I remember it like vividly. I'm sure there's still comments on my videos. Yeah, no, it's it's it's like a recency bias type of thing.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, for sure. For sure. Because I even made I made my vanilla wow in a minute video where I was like, vanilla wow is the best I miss it and that was in 2012 Which like the game had even been out like ten years yet And I was already making that video because people are just like it's true back then it was way better and now it's like But the worst part about okay, this will bother me the most They it's back like you can play classic
Starting point is 00:38:45 WoW I play classic WoW I think it's great it's cool having the old version of the game and now they even do like season of discovery where they're adding new shit to classic WoW so it's like there's there's even less to complain about because you can just play that version of the game and they're even adding new stuff to it so I'm just like why why are you complaining I don't know I mean I again we've done this long enough that a lot of it is just because what else are you going to do? You know what I mean? Like there's just some people, that's what they got, complaints.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah. Like if they're not complaining, they're not happy. There are, I think it is definitely the thing where there's just a lot of people that complain about literally anything. I mean we complain about stuff, but there's people that will like, it's like the person where there's the half glass empty and half full, right? There's some people, like every time I used to go to, it was like CVS or Walgreens, there'd be that one dude and he'd just always be happy.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And he would just be like hey It's a great day, man Let's go, and then he's like hey, it's raining out, but hey you know what I love the sound of rain And he would just always like be happy about something, and then you always know there's the person who's just like Here we are again. It's raining. It's depressed just like me um Whoa, whoa they ruin my game, and it's just like It's very just like me. Um, whoa, whoa, they ruined my game. And it's just like, it's very much a mindset for a lot of people. I mean, I think it's the thing where people, it's just fun to complain.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And I'm guilty of this too. Sometimes it's just fun to complain about stuff. Yeah, no, agree. Yeah. That's what this whole podcast is sometimes. That's true. In fact, we are kind of complaining right now about that. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:40:28 You're right. Yeah. It's and it's because like talking about things just being like, well, this is pretty fun. It's just I don't know. There's something not as magnetic about it. And I don't know what it is because like even when I remember, I just pulled it up. I made a video about the pre patch and I was like dude this pre patch has been terrible But I think they're doing they're gonna fix it and that got 20,000 views and then I was like guys they fixed it The pre patch is fun
Starting point is 00:40:55 9,000 views like people People just want to be like yeah, this does suck But instead of being like hey, they fixed it and because then I think once it's fixed or once people are having fun they're just kind of like alright that's the way it should be like they don't need to watch anything about it though right right it's the same thing as leaving a review at a restaurant like you don't do it unless you're pissed or yeah it was so good and most of the time when it's so good you you absolutely don't leave you're like well that was good I'll come back.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Rather than I'll leave a review. Like most people don't do that. There's one time I've left a positive review ever. And it was that place in San Antonio you and I went to that looked like a drug den. And I was like, I got to shut them out. So other people know this place is legit. Other than that, every review I've ever left had been me being like, this was terrible. That was the worst thing I've ever experienced. I hate this. Yeah, it's... and that's the types of reviews people... then they'll read them and make a YouTube video out of it and be like, the biggest complaints you ever seen about these restaurants. But I don't think people make videos like, the nicest things restaurants have ever received. They're like, the nicest things restaurants have ever received.
Starting point is 00:42:06 They're like, the food was very good, thanks. Like, it just, it doesn't... I don't know. It's like I said, there's something about the negativity that's just magnetic, it draws you in. It's, I mean, it's the same reason people go on their reddits for community or forums, like they did back in the day. Like, people used to go on the Community forum and now it's just like people go on reddit instead but like there's always just like a group of people talking about something and you could be like
Starting point is 00:42:32 Even sports just like I think this guy's my favorite player and people go that's awesome, dude Have an updoot and then it's like doot doot doot and then someone will be like I actually did like that player Then they'll be like downvote him Get him out of here he disagrees yeah I mean there's definitely unhealthy positivity as well for sure yeah oh yeah no that's there's there's plenty of unhealthy negative and positive feelings to go around but it's a you know there's
Starting point is 00:43:03 there's a reason it's like that yeah and then people like in marketing and psychology figure out how to do that or it'll be like guys they'll do some like crazy thing to promote Oreos and be like Oreos did this thing and then people be like yeah up vote give it some positive things then they're like yes they up vote, give it some positive things. Then they're like, yes, they up vote the cookies. You know what I mean? And then they've manipulated you, Oreo's got you. Was that you and I?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Who was I having this conversation with about colors? Was that on Geekenders? I had just had this conversation this past week and I don't know who it was with. The idea that colors, like green and red are used to manipulate us. Maybe it was Chiluminati. What's the premise that green and red? So the question was brought up. Do you think things are nature versus, oh I think it was Chiluminati nature versus nurture.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Um, how we're brought up, what we believe in. I believe the question originally was about, um, you know, do we have something in our brain that tells us that we should believe in a God because there's a God saying that, or because human frailty is like, I need to say that I believe in something otherwise, uh, existence is pointless and my life means nothing like that kind of thing. Right. And so I was trying to change it up to, well, how do we know any of that isn't just the
Starting point is 00:44:39 people that came before us instilling that in us? Because you'd have to go, I think like the first true representation of a human being would be like a caveman. Because there's limited outside factors in influencing you. But you know, when we were kids, our parents were influenced by stuff. And when they were kids, they were in, like their parents were influenced by stuff. And it's this compounding influence. And so I brought up the point of like, you know, do human beings have an interest in the color red as like both cool and dangerous and fast and hot? Or is that something that we as growing up, it was instilled in us by TV, movies, music,
Starting point is 00:45:21 that kind of stuff. And I was like, I genuinely couldn't tell you. Because you would imagine there would be, you know, there's things in life where we just know to avoid it. Yeah. I mean, there's a reason why they make stop signs red. Because it's like clearly there's something there. I would argue that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Is it because the color red is so noticeable? That when we see something red, we're like, oh that's different. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would say it's probably because it's the most noticeable, but it's probably noticeable for a reason as well. Like maybe, you know, like red you would see like fire. Like back in the day, right? You go, uh oh, fire. That's either good because it's like like I can go there and warm up or it's bad
Starting point is 00:46:07 because something's burning down or like there's war or something like all right like that's what red seems to usually or like blood so it's like like red usually is that type of thing yeah no red blood blood is you don't want to see blood like I get it my question is is, is that something that, you know, we are pre-programmed on a DNA level to when we see blood, for example, to panic, because it could be our own. Or is that something that we are all learning as we go? Yeah, because- Or are we told that by a generation before us, who was then told by their generation,
Starting point is 00:46:48 and it's just passed down knowledge, but it's not anything that is built into us. You know what I mean? I feel like it is built in. That's just how I would feel. Even like blue. I feel like people are like blue is relaxing, green is relaxing, right? And that's cause nature is that, like trees are green Grass is green like water is blue if you see water that means oh or if you see blue. That's like water now We have water. We're safe. We won't die of dehydration right but like that said with that said just like with fire You were saying hot or burn yourself blue sure relaxation, but also you turn blue when you're choking, right? Green is healthy and beautiful, but also if you're sick you turn green, you know what I mean? I don't know many people actually turning green.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But I mean like that's the metaphor, right? Right. So, you know, I'm just saying it's interesting. I would say those are the dominant things are like you would see grass every day and plants and trees and stuff but you don't eat grass. You don't see somebody turning green every day. Yeah but it's still like... But green is also like mold and vile goop you know? Yeah but I feel like nature is something with nature and feeling like it's relaxing. I mean I get what you're saying. I'm just saying like there's a lot of things I just simply don't know. I don't have the knowledge base. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:48:16 I could research it or there's someone out there who has the real answer but like there's a lot of things that I wonder whether that's something that's built into us or not and if it's outside people telling us what we should be feeling or thinking. And I, you know, going back to what we were talking about earlier, I feel like there's a lot more of that lately. Is people have kind of shut off their brains and they're letting other people do the thinking for them because it's like too hard. I mean, I do agree. I wouldn't say that people think it's too hard. I think people are just lazy.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Well, that's what I'm saying. They have the capability. Yeah, they just think it's too hard. They... Well, people will always take the path of least resistance. That's... Okay, that's what I learned from my marketing book I read from Taco Bell. People will always take the path of least resistance.
Starting point is 00:48:59 That's why if you go to a website and it pops up with like, sign up now, you'll click off of it. Because you're like, that's too much shit to do. Right? Even though it probably won't take you that long. That's why if you go to a website and it pops up with like sign up now, you'll click off of it. She's like, that's too much shit to do. Even though it probably won't take you that long, potentially. But like it goes as far as even like tabs on a menu. If you go to a tab and you got to click like, if I'm on ESPN and I got to click NFL scores T and like go through all these different things, your brain's just like, I don't want to do all this.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It just wants to go like scores and see the score or have a pop up right away. Like it will always pick the path of least resistance. And so they talk about that even in terms of, uh, just being able to order. Right. Cause not back in the day, you had to go to Taco Bell. You had to go inside or go to the drive-through and be like, I want this thing and blah blah. Now it's just like open phone, hit button, one tap, order my favorite, it's here.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It's like they now know like, oh people will do this, it's the path of least resistance. You can click one button ordering. It's why Amazon's got one button ordering all over the place because they know it works. I hate that. Yeah. Least. Least resistance. Because they were talking about this guy, he would always put a Snickers bar
Starting point is 00:50:12 in his work cabinet thing. And then every day he'd be like, I'm going to eat it. And then he would eat it. And they'd be like, what if we move the bar down the room in a different cabinet and we put an apple here or some shit and so they did that and then he just started
Starting point is 00:50:28 eating the apple he's like well I want to get up and go get the Snickers those eat the apple it's better anyway and so like a lot of times we'll just do something because it's right in front of us so there's that's what I'm talking about what I mean like they they they've now studied all this stuff that like I think back in 2010 and like that type area or era, it was almost like they were just getting into this. And now people just know so much more than they did back then.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And like technology advances so rapidly in research and everything that now they just know so much. And then they're just, now they just watch your eye movements and shit while you're looking at the app. There's like, let's see, when you were looking at this app, where'd your eyes go? How did you scroll fast? Did you scroll slow? Did you stop moving and like look
Starting point is 00:51:11 at something? Like they know everything. They know where your mouse clicks. Like people always talk about your data being taken like they're gonna know my address. Like they don't care about that. They care about where you're clicking and what you're tapping and how fast you tap, because that all matters to them more. So anyway, that's why we're right and everyone else is wrong. Sure, it took a long way to get there, but yeah, what we meant to say is,
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Starting point is 00:54:27 All right All right, I'm glad I understood that at least. I thought you'd hear the cadence and be like, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably the most coherent one you've ever done. It might be. Let's go to weather. Weather. Alright, we have landed on weather request Vatican City. Seeing as how we're about to get a new pope was fitting Why not check in and see what the weather is like in the Vatican, please Pope Cranor tell us Sure, no problem. I'll tell you about the Vatican weather I'm actually anti Pope Scythius as we learned right right right of course what a fool Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:26 The Vatican Right, right, of course. What a fool. Yeah. Uhh, in the Vatican. That's how I thought. It's 57 degrees Fahrenheit feels like 70...wait no Feels like 57. The high was 74 but now it's cooler because it's night time. 76% humidity, 29.99
Starting point is 00:55:42 inches of pressure, 7 miles of visibility, 4 mile an hour winds, 554 AM sunrise, 819 PM sunset, dew point 50, UV index zero, and a moon phase of waxing gibbous. 10 day at the Vatican. 75 mostly sunny on Monday Tuesday 75 p.m. thunderstorms Wednesday 75 p.m. showers Thursday 75 mostly cloudy Friday 76 p.m. showers Saturday 74 mostly sunny and Sunday mostly sunny 75 it's pretty much 75 every day with some clouds some showers and then some mile an hour winds. So I found exactly three restaurants in all of Vatican City. Everything else is parks.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Are they all named after the Pope? No, one is literally called the Pine Cone Bistro. That's not what I expected. It has two stars. Oh no! The poppy are making a terrible food! Admittedly it doesn't look all that great considering where it is. It looks kind of like
Starting point is 00:56:58 if you bought food at Disneyland. That, you know what, it kind of is like the Disneyland of Catholic Rome. The cafeteria central 1.7, the carriage cafe 2.5 dude. Oh my god. Wow, they are really in there. Um, with that said, those crappy restaurants in, there's only three restaurants and they're their bad how's that possible
Starting point is 00:57:26 uh anyway immediately outside right outside Vatican City are a bunch of restaurants uh oh yeah and my favorite one McDonald's Roma Pio the 11th now that's a that's a staple yep right outside Now that's a that's a staple. Yep, right outside. Once I go once I saw the new pope I said you know I'm gonna go McDonald's. Dude there's a place right outside called the Kung Fu Express. Hell yes dude. It's got a 4.6.
Starting point is 00:57:59 There's also a place called Kung Fu restaurant. It's almost you know it almost seems racist now. Every Asian restaurant's called Kung Fu, you know. That's a lot of Kung Fu. Come on, this is so funny. You can tell that even though Vatican City's in the heart of Italy, it's a worldwide thing
Starting point is 00:58:21 because right across the street is a pho place, an Indian place. Oh yeah. There's another Italian place, there's a worldwide thing because like right across the street is a fall place, an Indian place, oh there's a uh another Italian place, there's a place that just makes uh like it's a wine thing. Yeah this is it's very interesting, I never would have assumed that there were restaurants in Vatican City to begin with, Found them, and they suck apparently. And then all the restaurants near it are not what you would consider Italian restaurants. Yeah, there's one right down the street and it's called Konichiwa Sushi and Wine Club. There's a place called Fabrica?
Starting point is 00:58:58 I can't tell the vibe of this restaurant. It is both somehow a wine restaurant but also a tea restaurant but also they have cakes they make and also Pokemon? I have no... I can't read this place at all. I don't know what I'm looking at. The inside looks like a place where you would, uh, like John Wick would get weapons and armor crafted. Ha ha ha! Like, ah, Mr. Wick, are we going out this evening? Will you be needing the Kevlar vest? Like, that's what it looks like! Ha ha, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 That's... such a weird blend of restaurants. I wonder if it's because a lot of the building's just old, and so you get in where you fit in? Yeah, that might actually be it So I doubt they're really tearing a lot of stuff down either Especially it's like you can't tear that down. Well, let's turn it into a restaurant Yeah, apparently this restaurant just does cakes and there are a lot of cakes that look like They're like it's for kids. So I'm wondering what kind of restaurant this is it's also just like bring your kids yeah I don't know we made him a dinosaur cake okay that's the leather all right
Starting point is 01:00:21 let's go to sports sports oh Oh boy. We've got sports NBA the Celtics beat the Knicks today. They were down to nothing now. They're making the series 2-1 Currently Golden Knights beating Edmonton Carolina won today for nothing over Washington Currently Timberwolves are beating the Warriors with four minutes left in that game Nuggets are up 2-1 on the Thunder. Pacers up 2-1 on the Cavs. And the Timberwolves Warriors is currently tied at 1. Then, in the Hockey Playoffs,
Starting point is 01:00:57 we've got the Jets and Stars tied at 1. Toronto up 2-1 against the Panthers. And Carolina's up 2-1 against the Hurricanes. Edmonton up 2-0 against the Panthers and Carolina's up 2-1 against the Hurricane Edmonton up 2-0 against Golden Knights Belay said they are currently winning but you never know and in baseball we've got the Yankees in first the Tigers in first the Mariners in first the Mets in first
Starting point is 01:01:17 the Cubs in first and the Padres and the Dodgers tied in first. And that's sports. All right. What is our fact of the day? Fact of the day, day. Day. Day. Day. Day. Day. You can yo-yo in space.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Interesting. I assume it's because of the thrust of like when you flick your hand rather than gravity doing it? Yeah, I think so. In 2012 NASA astronaut Don Pettit took a yoyo on board the International Space Station and demonstrated several tricks. It works because a yoyo mainly relies on the laws of conservation of angular momentum to perform tricks which, provided you keep the string taut, apply in microgravity. I don't even know what microgravity is.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Wait, microgravity is characterized by a much weaker gravitational pull than what we experience on Earth. Okay. Right. Yeah, because you're in space. Okay. Well, there you go. You can yo-yo in that. Alright! Who has come to us with tears in their eye? Dear illustrious sirs, tears in my eyes, gratitude in my heart, I kneel before your noble throne. Are either of you sirs aware of the concept of the internet community known as SCP? Each time Krendor has spoken about writing, it has given me motivation to write short stories for that community. Yeah, oh I mean of course
Starting point is 01:02:48 I think if you watch Scary Games Squad you know we're obsessed with it. I'm a big fan of Control and the Federal Bureau of Control really is just a video gamified SCP. Do you know what SCP is? I think we've talked about this. I think I know of it and I know things about it. I don't really like truly know what it is though. Like I mean, at its basic core level, SCP and the SCP like initiative is a website that houses and shows off fan driven content. And that content just happens to be, um, very specific. I don't want to say horror, but, uh, like. Paranatural goofery.
Starting point is 01:03:38 So the way it works is imagine you discovered an online catalog or an online database of some government organization that monitors and keeps track of and holds all the weird shit in the world. Right. And then each one of those SCP 001, SCP 2954, SCP 77, whatever the case may be, everything has a number and then someone will claim that number and then write a short story. But the way you're writing the short story isn't like, he walked in the room and there was the body. It's not like that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 You're writing it like you're reporting out on it. So basically you say what the SCP is or you very, you know, you obfuscate and make it like creepy, right? But like, let's say the SCP was you. Let's say you're the SCP. I would have, you know, SCP 69 was Krendor. Then you classify it. There's classifications of is this thing harmless? Is it terrible?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Is this world ending? That kind of stuff. So for you, I'd be like, oh no, he's harmless. It's whatever. So then, then the next bit is the description of you and how I would describe you. And then the next thing is sort of maybe history of you, where you were found, what your deal is, what happens if someone interacts with you, that kind of thing. And then you can get really creative by adding, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:10 audio files maybe, or you add reports, or maybe someone interacted with you, like that kind of stuff. So you know, some of the ones that exist out there would be, there's one that is like a There's one that is like a flesh ball they found and when they brought it back I think there was like a room inside of it and anytime someone entered the room they would never come out but the next person who like looked inside there'd be a new piece of furniture made of flesh in there. Oh like that kind of thing like weird but it doesn't give you an explanation of what it is. It's all mystery. And then sometimes what people do is they'll connect some of them or they will drop hints.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So a great example is there are organizations working against the SCP that are hinted at throughout people's stories. And then someone will pick up on it and run with it. Another story like that kind of thing. It's very interesting. And it's just like a big collective exercise and being creative with creepypastas basically. That's pretty cool. I've definitely heard of people being like oh this is a story from SCP or like this is a thing from us so I've like seen stories from it I just didn't know what it actually was overall. Yeah, Um, it's, it's very fun, very creative. And a lot of the weird horror slash trippy stories you see online these days
Starting point is 01:06:32 are just people copying SCPs. I know there are a lot of videos that exist on YouTube now where someone will literally just read through an SCP document and then put like AI video in the background of it. Yeah. I think I've definitely seen those on YouTube pop up Yeah, yeah, it's definitely thing that happens How do they even how do they get approved like you have to submit the story great question? I don't know that you do so for monster prom and monster prom 2 for the demo
Starting point is 01:07:01 We used an SCP character as like a goof right they messaged messaged us and was like, do not ever use that. Take it down, remove it. We're like, damn, okay. So I, it's not open source. That's for sure. That lesson I learned the hard way, but I feel like if you reached out and asked, it's probably fine. I don't know. I just didn't know because there's all the SCP numbers. So does somebody just claim it? Do they have to apply to claim it? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah, if there's an open number, you can claim it. And then you start crafting your thing. And they might have a submittal process, kind of like how if you want to make a change to Wikipedia, you have to submit it, I believe is how it works. And so, yeah, like that's, there's a great example is if you looked up SCP-001, I believe it's the very first one, there might be a 000, I don't know. But remember the first one is, originally, that was someone's story.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And then, there in fact were a bunch of stories that were SCP-001, but what ended up happening is the SCP as a collective decided to make SCP-001 the like, basically the big bad of the SCP universe. And so a lot of things relate back to that. But then if you go to SCP-001 and scroll all the way down to the bottom, there'll be all the other previous things it was before they changed it. Ah, I see. Okay. Just like a little shout out to say, hey, you know, other things have been categorized this in the past, but that's not actually what it is. This is what it actually is. But
Starting point is 01:08:39 you can see the other stories that were there first. Yeah, I see. Okay. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's just like a fun little storytelling thing. There's a lot of really good ones. A lot of them also are kind of silly. Like there's not a lot of... Some are scary. Some are totally trippy and weird. And some are just like kind of silly for fun and it's just creative writing. Huh. Yeah, it's neat. There we go. Um, alright.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Next, Dear Illustrious Sir. We've got Dear Illustrious Sirs, with tears in my eyes groveling before your experience. If you had the co-star in a movie with Nick Cage, what kind of movie would it be and what kind of characters would you be? I would uh,
Starting point is 01:09:22 I would want to do a weird Nick Cage movie. It doesn't make sense from like just an oddity perspective. Like Nick Cage and us are in a... in some sort of competitive battle over something meaningless. Like uh... like crafting candles. And he's like... You want to be in a movie where you craft candles with Nick Cage? Yeah and he's just like... he's like I'm to be in a movie where you craft Campbell candles with Nick Cage Yeah, and he's just like he's like I'm gonna take you boys down I'm gonna make the best candles you've ever seen and then we're like nah, dude
Starting point is 01:09:52 We're gonna make the best candles and then it's like back and forth. He tries to send people at us to mess up our candles And then at the end of the day is a there's a bus chase with ninjas And now back'm back in. Also, can we call this movie John Wick? It's gotta be... Uh... Well, it's John Wick, right? Because of the candles.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Well yeah, but there's nobody named John in it. No, that's his character. That's Nick Cage's character, John. He's a candle maker. So it's called John Wick. Alright, fair enough. No one's ever named a movie that before, this'll be great. Yeah, that should work out fine. That's it. I just want it to be something weird like that.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Where you're just like, how is this a movie? Why would anyone make a movie about this? I mean, that's every movie that we'd be in, let's be honest. No matter what it was, if we showed up showed up people would be like why? That's true yeah. Why? I come to you with tears in my eyes for your wisest advice with Jessie's love of redheads and Krendor's affinity for women who moonlight a small kitchen appliances what is one thing a person can do or have that instantly attracts you to them? Um, I don't know, play with my balls. That... That is... I'm also a sucker for accents. I did a thing today, dude. I recorded a thing today for
Starting point is 01:11:19 Monster Prom and one of the people that we had on to do voices with us like broke out a British accent and it was, I'm gonna let you know I think I like, I'm just a sucker for like a solid accent cause everything was fine, the whole, and now suddenly it was like hello there, I was like oh my, okay yeah, so you just need someone with an accent to play with you down there is what you're saying. Uh, I mean, you asked me the truth. You said what attracts me. That's true.
Starting point is 01:11:53 What am I going to like? I don't, is this initial attraction? It's hard to say. Honestly, my walls are up all the time. Like truth be told, I don't, if you were to approach me and be like, Jesse, I want your body. I'd be like, who put you up to this? I would not believe you for a minute. I'd be like, this seems weird. I don't trust you. What is this?
Starting point is 01:12:14 Well, do I owe you money? What's going on here? I mean, it's just something that they might have or do where you feel attracted to them. Doesn't mean that they're trying to like screw you over. Right? Yeah, no, I mean if I'm just attract like initial attraction really truly face. Alright. I'm a big face guy. Like I am
Starting point is 01:12:36 super into just like a beautiful face. Alright, there you go. That's quite different from just the balls. I was doing a joke, it seemed appropriate. That's fair. I'm trying to think... I mean, here's the thing. Every time ToastRomo just like scratch my back, I'm like, this is great. A good back scratch is like a game changer.
Starting point is 01:13:03 It's true. Or, uh, or even scalp. Oh my God. Like just, cause I don't know what it is, but like getting in there, just scratching, I'm like, Oh, I, uh, will shrink into my own body. I'll be like, Oh, that's it's great. I love a back scratch. Yeah, no, it's a that's definitely top tier for me. It was just like she's got longer nails.
Starting point is 01:13:33 So it's just like, boom, it just it hits. And then cattle show up and he's like, I want scratch. And then everybody wants to get scratched. You got I must stress this. I know you have a healthy relationship. If you got a lady who's just out there scratching your back, keep her, keep her. That's true. That's just the fact to all to all people out there. If your spouse significant other whatever is scratching your back on the regular, that's a keeper. That's someone you got to keep in your life. Back scratches rock.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Oh yeah. No doubt about it. Um, so yeah, there you go. But also, you know, my balls. Yep. All right. What's our big new story of the day? Kentucky mom shocked after son orders 70,000 dumb dumb suckers from Amazon first off I need to know if that's a thing you could purchase right now second off of all the things your son could have got that's probably the least offensive to be honest it probably did cost a lot of money though Kentucky woman I'm deep diving right now. We'll find out.
Starting point is 01:14:47 A Kentucky woman was in a sticky situation when she found stacks of boxes containing lollipops on her front door. Surprise delivery was ordered by her young son while he played on her phone. Holly LaFavors said she tried stopping her eight-year-old son Liam's Amazon order for 70,000 dumb dumb suckers before the treats arrived but it was too late. Amazon had already delivered the 22 cases to her home. He told me he wanted to have a carnival and he was ordering the dumb dumbs as prizes for his carnival. Again he was being friendly. That's awesome. I don't care what she says that's awesome. Yeah he was being friendly and kind to his friends
Starting point is 01:15:25 The surprise got worse after a quick check of her bank account. She owed about $4,000 when I saw it the number was I just about fainted Then she found out that eight more cases from the order were unaccounted for After a trip to the post office those cases were returned to send sender. Her efforts got to get a refund, took a bit more time, but she got her money back. After a long day of working with the bank and talking to a few news stations, Amazon called and they are refunding my money. LeFavre said she was changing some settings on her phone to make sure there's never another surprise delivery at home.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Dude, I'm telling you, it was the one bun order. I talked about it earlier, the one bun order. That kid was just like, give me those dum-dums. I'm looking right now, I'm looking at dum-dum lollipops from most expensive to least, highest to lowest, and essentially you can get a 30 pound box for $246. That seems about right then. So the crazy thing is he had to order more than one 30 pound box. How many friends does this kid have or was he genuinely trying to open up a real ass carnival? I don't know because like he's eight. I feel like at eight you can process that much right like you can figure that out especially since the 30 pound boxes look like a lot of them like it's that's a lot of dumb-dumbs I feel like if he was like three or four
Starting point is 01:16:59 I'd be like okay like he probably kept hitting the button but I feel like at eight like you're you're you know how to do math You know how to like add and subtract and stuff like you could probably go like I only need like one big box of dum-dums for my carnival Like he how did he order so many I feel like this kid? We're thinking he's gonna make a little backyard thing. I think in his mind this kid straight up was just like I'm going to be the next barman Bailey little backyard thing. I think in his mind, this kid straight up was just like, I'm going to be the next Barman Bailey. I'm going to do a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I'm like, I just feel like in his mind, he thought he was, this is like when someone buys a whole streamer setup, but it's their first day streaming. They got the lights, the microphone, the pad. Like this guy really thought he was about to have, you know, elephants roaming around his backyard. That's true, he probably did. He's like, we just need as many dum-dums as possible for the influx of people. Clearly, that's a lot of dum-dums. So I wonder what, they didn't, they didn't ask the kid, like, what else was at the carnivalival right? Did he, is there like animals? Did he have like games? She's about to get a whole other shipment. What do you mean animals? Jeremy? Nobody's interviewed the kid. We need to know what he was
Starting point is 01:18:18 thinking. Yep. But they never will. We never will. Yep. Unless that kid grows up and then eventually makes a video about it online or something. What's crazy is I'm trying to look online to find other candies that are equally as expensive and what could possibly be done. My favorite one is Teacher Appreciation and School Staff Survival Kit. It's just a bunch of candy in a little box. A hundred sets, three hundred eleven dollars. Oh my god. I must stress to any teacher or principal
Starting point is 01:18:54 or school superintendent or whatever, if you're buying this for your staff, don't. Don't do that. Just give them a raise. They don't want candy. Yeah, just give them more money. Then don't they don't want candy yeah just give more money then they can buy their own candy if they wanted I'm gonna send you this look at the actual package of candy that you get one pack of candy
Starting point is 01:19:16 contains one tootsie roll one piece of bubble gum one smarty one not a whole pack one Jolly Rancher when and one pack of Skittles, and exactly one Starburst. Yep. 100 of these little packs, $311. That is way overpriced. That's mega overpriced.
Starting point is 01:19:41 You could, I think, go buy packs of each one of these and put them in a bag for like 30 bucks yeah that's crazy easy it is correct as genuinely insane that is that's got to be lazy that's got to be like just like send me this stuff like there that is so overpriced and that's your big news story of the day oh right well that's it for us thanks for listening and watching I'm enjoying this podcast Grandor and I'm with the socials we got socials youtube.com slash cox and Grandor podcast all one word go like comment subscribe drop your weather request drop your dear illustrious sirs
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