Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 483 - Revenge of the Rat Hole!

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

The boys are back and this time Jesse is famous in China. Meanwhile Crendor deals with clam chowder and pacman fantasies. Then the boys discuss the newest Neil Breen masterpiece. It might be the craziest thing ever - except for the RETURN OF RAT HOLE! That's right the Chicago Rat Hole returns - OR DOES IT?! All this and more on an all new Cox n' Crendor! Go to http://HeroForge.com and use code CRENDOR to get 5% off all orders of physical miniatures. Go to https://quince.com/cox for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.

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Let's jump into this podcast. Hello, everybody. It's time for Ghost on Trend Dog. In the morning. In the morning. We're podcasting long, live, live, live, long. Before our reporting studio, recordings, recording. Wake your ass up.

It's up, Gawndon, in the morning. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Cox and Crenner in the morning. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the exciting episode of Cox and Crenner. So exciting. So exciting. So episode.

Very morning. Very morning. Very morning. Very episode. Yeah. How's your episode going? So far, so great. It just started. But, uh, yeah. As far as episodes go, the least, you know, problematic for my life so far. Yeah. Well, that's good. Good. Yeah. Today, my parents and I, I don't know if I told you this. My mom and dad, a few weeks back, decided that we were just going to go as a family. an hour south of here to Santa Ana and go to Knottesbury Farm, but not actually go to

Knottesbury Farm, just go to the restaurant outside Knottesbury Farm, which, by the way, many people had that idea, many people. I don't know what the deal with this restaurant is, but it was, like, surprisingly affordable for L.A., and it was a lot of food, like a lot. It was crazy. I could not believe it. basically you have to make reservations to go there and it's like old aunt grandma's Knott's Farm dinner place it was 11 a.m. when we got there and they were like

we served dinner that's it that's you're going to get dinner I was like oh okay let's say you ordered the chicken dinner which is their famous chicken dinner thing which everyone online said I had to get so I got here's what was brought to me I had a chicken soup plus salad the soup was kind of like less soup and more of a stew

I don't even know how to describe it it was like thick I was like okay all right more like something you would put with dumplings or something I don't know and then a salad so that's where you're starting with plus biscuits out the gate

the chicken hadn't even arrived I'm already full salad soup and biscuit in and I'm like no no I got to save it because I order this dinner the dinner I got had mashed potatoes

and I could have got corn or cabbage with ham and I was like, give me the cabbage with ham, sign me up. But then the chicken, this fried chicken dude, was half a bird. So I had leg, thigh, wing, breast, all just sitting there. And I was like, oh my God. Then, as I'm eating all that, I was like, all right, can't know all this.

I gave it to some of my parents. It was like, you can take it home, enjoy. Then at the end, they're like, all right, and here's your free pot. I got free. I guess it did pay. for technically, but like, and here's the pie that comes with your dinner. What?

Dude, I was like, what? It was great. I was so happy. I got my Bois and Berry pie. Oh, Boisenberry. It was great. It was delicious. It's like tart, but a little sweet.

Fantastic. Had a great time. Couldn't believe it. All of that was like $20 something dollars. I was like, yo, I know. It was crazy. That's an insane deal. Yeah, the drink, I think, was the expensive stuff.

My drink, the drink I got was like seven bucks. Even that's not like terrible. Yeah. It wasn't like I was eating the best meal I ever ate. It was like cheap diner food that hit. And I loved it. It was great. It was delicious.

My dad got a chicken sandwich with these massive onion rings. And he's like, he's been years since I've had onion rings. I watched him go crazy on those things. He was like, yeah, yeah. And my mom got chicken and waffles. which I did not know was the thing she enjoyed. She was like, I love waffles. And so she ate the waffles.

Great. I don't think I've ever had chicken and waffles. Like, I've seen chicken and waffles, but... It's little just chicken and waffles. That's it. You have to just be in the mood for waffles, but also you want chicken with that waffle. I get it.

Like, I understand the combination. It's just like, whenever I have an opportunity to get it, there's just other things I'd rather get, you know? Sure, completely understand. That was, uh, today we went to, for my aunt's birthday. We went out to eat for like, like a fish place. Like, it was pretty nice, but I was like, I don't know what I want to get. First off, they all eat at like normal hours. So we go there at like 3 p.m. So they're, my parents are like, this is dinner. And then my aunts, it's like, this is lunch. I'm like, dude, this is my breakfast. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah. No, I'm with you. I get it. Yeah. So I'm just like, I got clam chowder. It was pretty good. They give you, they give you like, they give you like, a little.

sherry on the side to put into the clam chowder. They're like, you gotta put this in, it's gonna help the flavors. I was like, that's kind of neat. I mean, it tasted like clam chowder. I was trying to taste. Sure, I mean, that's the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fine. And then I was just like looking through everything. I'm like,

man, I don't want to, it's just like so many heavy items or just like a lot of, so I ended up getting a cod sandwich because they're just like hand battered cod, and then they put like some coleslaw and cabbage and shit. That was pretty good. It's really hard to screw up a good fish sandwich.

Yeah, exactly. So I had that, I had a, I was like, what do you have on drafts? They had a Sam Adams October Fest, got one of those. It is the time. I was like, cool, this will help me deal with this family event. And that was good, you know? Yeah. So, but the thing is like, whenever we go out to eat at places we normally go to,

like for, like, if me and toast room, we go to brunch and stuff. like I always get the same thing for the most part or I alternate between things that I'll be like sometimes I get a skillet other times I get like French toast something but I like go back and forth between those things I don't really venture outside to be like what if I go crazy today right

and I feel like if you if you go to somewhere frequently enough I feel like most people tend to get the same thing I'm curious if there's people out there that like constantly experiment being like I'm gonna get everything on the menu you like that type of thing. I know there are people like that. I'm not one of them,

but I know there are people like that where they go out, they try to taste something new or go experience. I mean, that's Alex. Alex is that guy. He'll always be like, oh, I went to this new place and I got this thing I've never heard of before. I'm like, okay. How was it?

You know? Yeah. But yeah, I'm like you. I have the things I like and I'll get them. But every once in a while, something will catch my eye and I'll be like okay yeah I'll try that but uh yeah I think I think most people are like you yeah because I mean I think when you go out and you know what you like

and you know it's gonna how it's gonna be it's like I'm gonna pay the money I know what I'm gonna get I'm gonna like it like it if you if you mix it up you might get something you don't like and then you've ruined your entire you know meal and you're paying for it then you're like I was gonna ruin my day dude there's also the danger and this happens to me too frequently and I'm pretty sure I've talked about this before where I get something I love and then maybe like a few days later

I'm like that was good maybe I'll go back and get it again go back get it again and it's terrible yeah they mess it up like whoever was the chef that day or cooked it or did whatever was not good at their job and gave me like the shitty version

and dude what a disappointment every time where I'm just like well I'm not going to eat there for six months yeah Yeah. That's the other thing. If you get like the different chefs rotating in and out or like maybe they're just not or maybe they're too busy one day or something, they just kind of whip it together. Like it's not the same. You're just like, oh, you know, the potato's a little overcooked and then this is a little dry or something. You're like, man, that sucks. I think that's why those restaurants that have sort of that high quality standard where it's going to be the same no matter what across the board do so well. and stay open because people know what to expect

they know what they're getting and honestly I was just talking with my parents today about this because we were talking about a bunch of restaurants that are closing down near where they live

and as far as the economy goes everything's so expensive no one wants to go to a place where they don't know what they're going to get or the quality changes depending on what day or time you go people want to go to a place

they know they're going to get something good and when they spend the money it'll be worth the money and it won't be like well we'll try something new so a lot of places that are new are going under because they just

can't lure in people because people are like I'd rather go to the place I know and love and get something I love and spend that money than go to this new place to try something

when I could just make something at home. Yeah. No, and it makes a lot of sense because I mean yeah it's it used to be like oh it's cheaper

to make food at home and whatever but now it's like it's a lot cheaper to make food at home. In fact I watch a video of some guy talking about Vegas today, and he was like, Vegas is a mess, everything became so expensive, and he was saying the reason why people aren't in Vegas right now is because Vegas, like, shot itself in the foot, where post-COVID, they were like, please come back to Vegas, please come back, and they started jacking up prices. And the reasoning, at least according to this guy, was that the casino didn't want to keep prices low because they wanted like a higher class of clientele.

They didn't want like just like Joe blow off the street to come in because they wanted it to seem like Vegas of old again. And so they jacked up the prices. And because people were stuck inside and they just wanted to do stuff, they all went to Vegas because like, yeah, we can go out, we can party, get drunk, and it's Vegas, I'm going to lose my mind and I'm free from my house. And they were willing to spend the money. And so they just kept jacking up the prices because people were willing to spend it.

And eventually they hit a threshold where no one wants to spend money anymore. where no one has the money to spend but they refuse to lower the prices because they still want to have that like we don't want the riff ref, ref, we want the big spenders. And so they have this weird thing where mentality wise it's like we'd rather

have one person spend a million dollars than a million people spend one dollar. It's like in Twitch streams where they rely on the one big whale to keep them afloat instead of like numerous other people. Which by the way, don't rely on that because then they could turn out to be the guy who like comes to Twitch

on and just grabs you and stuff. Yeah, and Twitch won't care about it. No, they will not. Classic Twitch. Yeah, I saw that and was like, they're not going to do a damn thing about this. Yep. I mean, it's

I'm pivoting subject, but I remember just TB back in the day, right? I was just saying have five sources of income, diversify, and like, this is the reason, right? You never want to get attached to one website or one company or anything. Like all these, they'll always be like, you know, you're a bleed purple or like you're a community per. They don't give a shit, right?

They just want you to stay there. It's like, I'm not going to, I'm not attached to anybody, right? I'll be, I'll go YouTube. I'll do Twitch. I'll do it like, wherever. There'd be a new website pops up. Be like, all right, sick, man. Like, you should never get a guy.

I might be on Billy Billy before you know it. That's true. You're the, you're the, what's his name? Now that China's discovered me. Yeah. Beard, you should tell that story. I'm, oh, my. God, for people who are not aware, I just tweeted this.

We are jumping all over the place, by the way. This is a caffeine-fueled episode. For people who are not aware, we both played Road to Empress. But for some reason, my video ended up on the Chinese streaming service, Billy Billy. And people are commenting on it. And this wonderful person online got all these screenshots and was translating them and sending it to me on Twitter. and they are hilarious. They are, so, it is basically feeding my ego.

Some of the nicest comments I've ever received. There's like, truly, he is the fighting saint of the emperor. This guy knows his Chinese history. Oh, man, he plays Diasia Warriors. What an awesome dude. Yeah, and they were like, this brother beard here is fighting to save the kingdom. And I'm like, yeah. They're just all really sweet.

Like, I thought he was going to fail, but it's entertaining to watch him success. I'm like, yeah. I'm enjoying it a lot. You have no clue. So shout out to my, now I assume, growing Chinese audience and potential partnership with the People's Republic. Is that still a thing? I don't know.

It is now. It's the complete opposite of over here where they're just like, here goes soy man Cox again. Beta male. Oh yeah, one of the guys, one of the guys the video said, it's crazy watching such a macho man play a harrow game and I was like

whoa you know what I was like America I'm about to forget your ass you you trash America making fun of me all the time China got the respect and I'm here for that

macho beard man cox this could be a scam this could be some honeypot by the Chinese government in which case consider me Winnie the Pooh because I am in there I am like oh piglet

that's not Winnie the Pooh I don't know who the hell Oh, piglet I don't know That was either In my brain I thought Oh I can do a Winnie the Pooh voice And then when it came out

It went Oh piglet Oh piglet Oh piglet Yeah that's more like I don't know who that is I'm trying to like figure I don't think that's anything

I don't think that's any character Yeah I don't think it is No character has ever said Oh piglet Yeah they love Yeah, shout to China. Yeah, number one new demographic. Let's go. I'm going to be like Michael Bay. I'm going to just focus in time. All the videos I'm going to do from now on are just going to be Chinese games. Tencent, call me. Let's go. Speaking of games, I've been playing that ball pit game. That's been a lot of fun. Ball X pit. Yeah, the ball X pit. Yeah, I saw you playing some of that. It's so funny because as you were coming back today.

I was sitting at the computer waiting and my entire, you know, every once in a while you see like someone, one of your friends playing on Steam. Right. I don't know what goes going on with Dodger, but she opened and closed that game like 15 times. It kept popping up that she was playing and I was like, I get it, Dukes, I know. Yeah.

I understand you're playing. Okay, cool. I hope she's having fun. But also, it's 5 p.m. Which means it's like 2 a.m., 3 a.m. in the UK. What are you doing, girl, go to bed? I am convinced. that sometimes she just opens a game and just leaves it running.

Like that she has to do that because I was looking, she has 50 hours in ball pit right now. I have nine hours and I have two more achievements than she does. I can't imagine she's played 40 more hours and has two less achievements. Like she has to just open it and let it stay open. I will say having worked in an office with her, her window game on her computer is out of control. In like Chrome, for example,

she would have 30 plus windows open Oh my God And she would keep them open And then not restart her computer And I'd look at her like What are you doing She's like well I need to know these things I was like save them

She's like no I'm not gonna do that I'd forget What Look we all have our weird neuroses That's hers And she just has so many damn windows open It's out of control That is pretty insane

There's like because like I got a couple tabs open With like I have like two windows open And usually one of them has like a bunch of tabs for like my stream stuff and like various day like work things. And the other one's just like me browsing on different websites or whatever. And that's like it. But I have like numerous tabs open within those two windows.

But I've seen other people that just have like a shit ton of just windows open or just like numerous windows with numerous tabs like way more than that. And it's like I feel like that's insane. can do one, maybe two or three, if I need to look at multiple things. But every time I'm done, I turn it off, shut down my computer, walk away. I don't, I still to this day don't understand the, like, just leave your computer on. Oh, I always leave mine on. Why? Why do you to me, all I can think about is like, that's waste in power. You know, it probably is I don't know. I've just like always left it on

and then I don't know why I think I just do it out of habit at this point to be honest I don't know I think you know what I think I might have heard like a thing back in the day like you should leave your computer on

or whatever and I don't even remember why I think I just heard that and I was like yeah and then I just kept doing it and now I'm like maybe I should turn it off I don't know let's see should you

turn off your computer Let's see This is from Build a PC Reddit I understand the components may get degraded over time and use But there's uptime really affect my PC I'd restart it once in a while just in case I keep lights on Just in case

Just in case Like that's crazy I turn my computer off every day Yeah I mean I'll restart it every couple days But you know maybe like back in the day also it would take like 20 years to boot up but now it boots up in like that's probably true if that yeah now it doesn't take that long to boot up so i always am like

eh i'll just turn it off i guess because i feel like leaving it on probably also uh at least like memory leaks and shit right you would think i mean chrome is notorious for doing all sorts of jenks stuff like that so the fact that people leave it on with that open I'm like, what? How? Yeah, I mean, there's also a standby, but I think I'd rather to shut it off than have it to go into standby. Yeah, standby, every time, for most of my experience with the computers, every time I try to turn a standby computer on, it takes way too long. Maybe I'll try shutting it off for a month and see how it affects my power bill.

I mean, like, you never know. It might do that a lot. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. We'll see. Maybe I'll run an experiment. that I'll probably forget about after this podcast is done and then not do it. That's like some people, when you look at their phone, they got like 8,000 emails and like 8 billion notifications. Like, I can't do that. I always clear my notifications, like clear all my stuff. And I'm like, all right, it's all good.

Like I just, sometimes I'll have like a couple notifications and email. But I'll see other people and it's like 8 billion. Like Sam, I got a thing about Sam's Discord, like an Instagram thing. And it was him just being like, my Discord's crazy, what you mean? And he had like 8 billion notifications and like 80 messages and like just is like a shit show. And I was just like, what the hell? No wonder he doesn't reply to my things. Like there's like that's that's a problem throughout all of streaming and YouTube.

Maybe everyone else. But I don't deal with everyone else. I deal with just the friends that I have in this industry. Yeah. And everyone. Everyone is like, oh cool. I just saw that message. I'll get back to it.

a few days and then they don't. Yeah. Like it's, I don't even accept excuses. I'm just like, look, I get it. I've done that before.

Yeah. I will see a message, think I'll get back to that. I'm busy. And then I will forget. I get it. But it's also, when you're the person waiting,

it's a pain in the ass. You're like, come on, man. Come on. Yeah. But I've been playing ball pit. That's pretty fun. Yeah?

Let's get back to that. Okay. So how are, you know, How are you enjoying the ball and the pit? I mean, I've been on my roguelight kind of kicked late. So I played Megabonk. Now I'm doing the ball pit.

There's a lot of good roguelight games coming out. And I love roguelight. Yes, that is very true. Yeah, it's good. It's kind of like space invaders, but ramped up an insane amount with like so many different elements. It made me realize that there's probably just a big market for redoing old game.

with like roguelite elements and a lot of crazy like updates and styles like I'm curious they could make like a Pac-Man Rogue light type of game or your Pac-Man

but you can become super like crazy Pac-Man and you could like eat the world like you go through like crazy stuff you get attacked by different like I feel like there's a lot of potential with a Rogue Light Pac-Man

maybe they've done it already I just don't know well this isn't what you're talking about because I know you want Pac-Man but they did release a game that was sort of a rogue-like Pac-Man game where it was a platformer and you played as this dude with the sword and there was a little Pac-Man orb behind you that guided you and it was sort of based around that animated secret level episode they had

that was kind of creepy and weird and it was this updated Pac-Man for 2025 I haven't played it I hear it's all right but I know that's not what you mean you mean like a Pac-Man game where if you eat enough cherries or chomping enough, ghosts, it in some way accumulates into bonuses that help you on your next run and so on and so on. Yeah. And then there's like different fruits you can eat and different foods. You get like super, you can like eat through the wall and shit. Like I want crazy stuff. And then you could have like the ghost like evolved too or like there's different types of monsters.

They'll like release like a, I don't know, some sort of beast man that runs through the thing like hunts down Pac-Man. Like you go crazy. That's what I want. To go crazy? Well, I just want crazy Pac-Man. The same way, this is kind of like crazy Space Invaders. Like, it's just, uh, I want it to like get, I don't know. I just want the Pac-Man element to be the base of it. You know what I mean?

Sure. I absolutely do know. Yeah. And I don't think anybody's done that before. Ah, surely they, hold on. That's what I'm saying. That's what I thought. I was like, surely's got to be some, but I don't think there is.

There's a game called Dungeons. and ducklings that kind of literally just saw that yeah yeah yeah and it looks like it's like you're a duck going through you got ducklings and there's like different animals they're like you're buying stuff it's like crazy bosses on the screen

this kind of looks like what I'm what I was thinking of yeah yeah positive reviews came out December of last year not many people played it though but everyone who did seems to like it you know what I'll put this on the old wish list hell yeah dude honestly Speaking of games that I wish more people

would play, I just started playing a game called Glitch Spanker. Oh, I think I saw you play in there. Yeah, literally it's a game where your parents have left and your mom and dad got a game for their computer that's basically like an adult game. And it's called Big Booty Slapper 6. And

when you go to install on a computer, something happens and you have to use Glitch Spanker, which is sort of your virus software. Except when you go into it, you kind of to get sucked into this weird program and this virus thing called Spunk

is like messing with you and giving you a hard time. You have no idea what to do except you do know that you can slap it and he'll go yeah and then the level will end and you'll end up in some new area right? Yeah. And it is for the first I don't know, 25 minutes

hilarious. Very funny. Incredibly entertaining game. And at some point becomes one of the most Jesse games that ever existed. It is absolutely insane. At one point you were doing a level that's like doom. At one point you're doing a rock band level.

At one point you're doing a like tower defense level. There's multiple weird, you know, the world around you change. There's so much stuff. At one point you leave the game, get a handheld game and start playing that Instead. What? Like I don't want to spoil the plot because it's absolutely incredible. But yeah, mechanically, it isn't just running around slapping a guy.

That is the gimmick goof at the beginning. It's called Glitch Spanker, right? With an R instead of an ER at the end. Ah, yeah, I see. When I tuned in because you were streaming it, it very much felt like that was like, what hell am I watching? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're literally just, you have a spanker, and you have to slap the bad guy.

But the question I have for you is, you see the bad guy. Oh my God, that's like the movie we watched last night. Oh, my God. We watched, well, we started by watching Rain of Fire, which that was fun. Fun, fantastic, good times all around, yeah. Bald Matthew McConaughey, chewing on his cigar, just being like, the best version of McConaughey, by far. It really is. And then we watched the Neil Breen, the Cades Crossing or whatever the shit it's called.

For those of you don't know who Neil Breen is, Neil Breen is an aged gentleman who decided in the early 2000s to start making movies by himself, filmed in Vegas on the cheap, with plots that border on the most insane fan. of David Lynch. They make no sense, have never made sense, yet when he describes what is happening, to him it makes perfect sense. Yep. He's like, well, obviously what I was doing here is this, and you're like, is that what

you were doing? The movie that we watched is the follow-up to the first movie, which is about two brothers, Kale and Kade, who are AI-infused space. men? I guess. They're like star children and they've come to Earth to make the world better

or I think maybe they were taken from Earth and then made into space what doesn't matter but they're back on Earth and one guy is trying to make the world better by like stopping I don't know

violence I guess I'm trying to there's like a scene in the first movie where he he like flies into a building by the way all clip art flies into a building and stops soldiers from fighting

and then his brother I guess has rejected the AI within him and is now a villain and it all led to this most recent movie that we watched where I have no word there is a scene in this movie y'all where in a span of five minutes

a man taking a bunch of mental patients in a van drinking while he's driving, crashes the car, and they crash into a field, and on the other side of the field is Neil Breen's character, Cade, walking towards them, and then a white tiger jumps out of the woods, and they have a five-minute fight. Yep. Where it's him fighting a CG tiger that looks ridiculous.

And then he hears the noise of the crash, tells the tiger to cut it out, like, hey, tiger, come on, cut it out. the tiger turns out to be his friend but not just his friend it morphs like animorph style into his dead wife from the first movie wearing a white outfit like princess lea yeah genuinely insane and the entire time i was like what does that mean

what does that mean why it's because in the first movie he has to kill his wife and so now i guess because he wanted to hook up with his other lady And so he's like, well, my wife has to be dead for this other girl to come into the picture. Yeah. There's one scene where there's a fight and there's a bunch of, y'all, I can't. This movie's insane. There are dozens of characters in this film, but they're all played by the same six actors.

So you have no idea who is supposed to be who other than when their costumes change. Because the movie is so edited insanely, you don't know. if it's supposed to be, oh, that's the mental patient version of that person, or that's the, like, hospital administrator version of that person, or if that is a ninja version of that person. That's right. The people who are both mental patients and working at the hospital are also ninjas. Yep.

And you don't know at any point which one they're supposed to be, except I guess the ninjas wear masks. Yeah. But there's moments where the ninjas are fighting themselves. Yes. As like the mental patient fighting the ninja. Also, this ends with a rousing speech where he gets the mental patients. No, I'm sorry.

The drug addicts pulled off the street by his brother then sent to the mental institution that Cade for some reason donates to, even though he does not know his brother is working with them. And the mental institution is secretly genome therapying the kids from the street. Yeah. And if you're thinking, Jesse, what did you just say? I don't know. They keep showing the corporate overlords that are like, are we getting the genome therapy money from the patients?

And he's like, yes, I do not care about the patients. They are nothing but objects to me. Yes, we are profiting off them. They're just like, what? Okay. That's how I knew that was the point of this movie. I was like, okay, Neil Breen is trying to be like corporations running the medical industry is bad. And that's fine, agreed.

But also, holy crap, he picked the craziest way to say that. Yeah. I was like, at the end of this movie, like all of his movies, the bad guys will explode for some reason. Yeah. And they did. But I love the part where he's like, you are a winged warrior. And then she has wings, but then she loses the wings and he's holding the wings later in the film. And I was like, how did she?

of that made sense. Why don't she lose the wings? Like, what? The craziest thing is, I thought that was all metaphor, because sometimes Neil Breen will do metaphor. So, for example, in the previous movie you watched the, I guess, prequel to this one, the first one of this series. There is a evil villain who's a bald man who plays with diamonds in a cup.

And he has a half-naked fairy that hangs out with him. And she, like, sprinkles pixie dust or whatever. and then she vanishes and I think Neil Breen was like oh no that's supposed to be like symbolism man I'm like okay whatever so I thought surely

right before this battle begins the final battle in the movie which again is basically multiple green screen layers of the same actors on top of each other kicking and punching into the air and he goes like

you are my winged warriors and then it shows the Asian woman who's in the group and she has wings on her back and then she kind of like goes you know how in um the listeners out there in bohemian rhapsody when they do that effect where it's like a bunch of the same guy in the background it's that but it's with her and so it's this this woman becomes like multiple you can see like multiples of her face and then he's like you're my winged

warriors you will fight for me and she's like yeah and then cut back to the fight no winged warriors to be found at all so i thought that was kind of like a metaphor for his warriors being winged because they could fly and like I was I'm sure I was like I'm sure there's something yeah the fight ends and then he's just holding the wings yep he's just like yeah I got these I was like wait so those were real wings and he had real winged warriors so where were they why did they not fight they weren't included in the fight at all but he was like my winged warriors sacrifice themselves I'm like what what do you mean Neil yeah it's It made absolutely no sense.

And that may be the most important part. They had a dance scene where they all just danced for no real reason. It just danced. That is, that is true. That did happen. I forgot that happened. That's how much stuff was in this movie that was insane. Yep.

Is that there was a full-on dance scene. Yeah, like line dancing. They just, you know, they just decided to do that. They were feeling good and they just danced. Now's that. It was like, okay. Cool. No, no real reason.

Like, legitimately no reason. It's not like one of the characters was like, oh, I like the dance and then they all danced with him. Like, nothing. It made no sense. And maybe, you know what? Maybe to him it made sense.

Maybe we're missing something. It clearly did, because we read after we were done, him doing an interview where he talked about the movie and he very clearly knows what he wanted to do. Yeah. He was like,

No, we had to rehearse this in the LA studios. Like, he wanted this dance scene that happened. Yeah, and he was like, only two attempts, and we got it down. I was like, did you, Neil? Did you? He also had a question and their answer. I forgot to bring it up, where he talked about the tiger scene, and he talked about how he wanted, like,

he wanted this scene to be insane and, like, good. And so he was going to pay a guy that worked on Star Wars to do it, and the guy told him the price. of what it would cost and he said it was quote a gazillion dollars so he did not go with that guy he went with somebody that was like I can try it

I'm learning and it took him a bit and they got it done and that's the product we saw on the screen yep that is uh yep yep that was uh

and you know what I think it's better that way if we would have had real editing there I don't think it would have hit the same Yeah, it is. It is wild. But incredibly enjoy. It's hard to describe how much I enjoy those movies, but also hate them. Because they make 10 minutes feel like an hour.

Yep. There will be shots where it will linger on the screen far longer than it should. And the actors are clearly told just to keep going. like there's one scene this poor girl's losing her mind she's like what's happening what's happening

and she keeps doing it she's like what's happening it's very I feel like he said we'll take one of those takes and use it but instead he just used the entire thing

oh yeah that's what he said in that thread too is that he gave people a maximum of four takes so if you're not if you haven't done it by then they're just gonna use one of your takes like yeah

It's enough. Enough with you. That's crazy. Yeah. But honestly, crazy entertaining. Yeah, I think it's one of those so bad it's insane that it exists. Not like so bad it's good, but so bad that while you watch it, you think, am I going crazy too? Which I think makes it fun.

Yeah. Like, it was the exact same, not exact same, but like pretty much the same length. as the Rain of Fire movie. And that felt like it was actually an hour and 40 minutes. And you're like, man, this could use more time to, like, flesh out characters and do all this stuff. This movie was the same length, but it felt like 10 hours. And it felt like nothing happened, but everything happened. Yep.

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Weather. Uh, do, do, do, do, do, do. Um, what's up? We're at the Weather Desk. What's up? What's up, gamers? It's time for weather. Weather request.

My hometown of Ocean Grove, Australia, formerly home to a burger joint I used to work at called the Piping Hot Chicken Shop, as it was closed down a couple years ago due to owing the tax office over $100,000. That's, you know what? That sounds, I mean, hopefully they paid you. That's true. I would hope so. Ocean Grove.

The Grove of Ocean. 66 degrees Fahrenheit currently. But it feels like 62 degrees Fahrenheit. Humidity, humidity 64%. Pressure 29.84 inches visibility 9 miles. winds at 11 miles an hour, 629 a.m. sunrise, 7.44 p.m. sunset. U.V. Index 4 of 11 with a waning crescent moon phase and a 51 on the dewpoint. 10 day. We got 66 and cloudy with some sunshine on Monday. Tuesday, PM showers 63. Wednesday, 65 with rain. Thursday, 59, mostly cloudy. Friday, 61, partly cloudy. Saturday, 63 with showers. Sunday, 61 with showers. Sunday, 601 of the showers. Sunday,

Monday 58 with a.m. showers. Tuesday, 61, mostly cloudy. Wednesday, mostly cloudy, 67 degrees. I just want to say, like with all Australian coastal towns, gorgeous. I'm terrified there are probably a bagillion sharks in the water, but gorgeous. Absolutely, the beaches are awesome looking. But, Australia, you continue to impress me with your restaurant names. You continue to impress me, and I love you for it.

first off we've got mr grub at oak den it is mr grub is a upside down house love it upside down house it's an upside down house yes then they have woody's pizza whatie's pizza literally is a bootleg woody the woodpecker i've never said anything like it it is so very clearly woody the woodpecker except they changed his coloring and gave him crazy hair. That's pretty great. I love this. I'm always impressed.

This is, it's not, we've seen some other ones that are like, grongy's machungi. And I'm like, I don't even know what that is. But, uh,

yeah. Oh yeah, there's a bar, uh, one town over called noble rot. Again, great, love it.

Noble rot. Sounds like some of you get playing like, Eldon Ring. It does. Oh, yeah, this is, I'm a big fan of all these restaurants. They're so funny.

They got ginger, uh, ginger and blondey mobile coffee bar. Love that. Love that. Oh, wow. It's just like a, it's like a food truck, but it's like a, how do you, how do you even describe? Okay. Hold on. If I link you that, I got to show you this one.

Uh-huh. Right. Does that work? You click that. Yeah, it's like a little truck. Yeah. This is honestly a thing they have in L.A. a bunch of. Oh, yeah, I guess they would have a lot of that in L.A.

Yeah, we have a lot of these little, like, yeah, we make coffee out of our little thing. The farmer's market I go to on the weekends has one of these, and they make coffee. I'm pretty sure it's way too expensive, but it's good. Yeah, it's probably coffee is the one thing where I'm like, I just like making it myself. Unless I'm like out and about, and I got to get it out. But otherwise, sure, sure. I trust my coffee pourovers. Yeah, I'm trying to, dude.

I'm obsessed with Mr. Grub. I can't tell of this chain. I don't know what this is supposed to be, but the outside looks like it flipped upside down house. The inside has hauntingly scary paintings of children. What the heck? But there's also a garden, but then there's also like, frittatas, but also, like, dude, I have no idea.

Also, I'm obsessed with Mr. Grubb sounds like something. It'll be on like our 500th episode quote. Like the thing, you'll be like, what's that from? But also the pizza there looks delicious. I'm looking at one of the pizzas like, okay, that looks like a pizza pizza. The food looks good. But I just, I'm obsessed with the fact that it just is a weird restaurant. Honestly, I think one of my favorite things about Australia is how kind of wacky things can be.

Oh, dude. Having been there, there's like an attitude in Australia that is like, screw it. Let's see what happens. And I think that, I think that translates to everything they do. It's, uh, I was looking up different even sayings, just like the, the sayings on, because like on, in my Twitch chat, I got a lot of Australian viewers. Because obviously I stream at like late nights. Insane hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So just things like, yeah, I found Australian expressions. So we got like, uh, it's chockers in here. Chalkers. Which means it's crowded. Full word is chocka block. Geez, it's chockers in here. We got crack open. Yeah, that's like mackers instead of McDonald's, sure.

Yeah, exactly. Macas. Yeah. We got crack open a tini. It's opening a beer. Okay. Yeah. We got Arvo's afternoon.

That was a weird. I've heard Arvo over and over. I'm just like, what? Arvo. Yeah, it's like afternoon. Interesting. Saw Tomo at the pub this Arvo must have been chucking a sickie. I love it.

I love it. Chuck on some trackie decks. That's to put on track suit pants. Uh-huh. A bludger is a lazy person. So a bogan is an uneducated person. Oh, dude, you got to watch out for the bogan. Those guys suck, yeah.

There's some other wacky ones there to say, I just, it's, to me, it just sounds insane. I feel like when you're around it all the time, like, it becomes the norm. But there's like plenty of things that we have that are also kind of like that. But I feel like they have the most. Because it's just like, everything's like, I whipwap to wilywap and I chucked a sickie out the back with the bogan. It's just like, what? There's like so many things. Yeah, every time I've gone.

I have been thoroughly impressed with Australia. And everyone I met has been an absolute treat. And also, real talk, ladies on Australia, you crazy. You too crazy for me. I went to, I think it was in Canberra for some. Oh, I was at a convention. I was in Canberra and like we went to this one bar one night. The amount of women I saw just like walking up to dudes being like,

I, you, me, let's smack our lips together. I'm like, oh shit, okay. It's crazy. Otherwise, you'll be chucking a sickie. Yeah, dude, you don't chuck a sickie alone. That's, yeah, no doubt about it. No doubt about it. That's the weather.

All right, let's go to sports. Sports. We've got sports. Sports, sports. We had football a day. Big football happening all around. we had the wop, wop, wop, wop.

Well, we started with the Bengals beating the Steelers on Thursday. Yikes, dude. Big yikes. Every time, every time without fail. Yep, I actually picked the Bengals on our podcast this week, so it felt like a Steelers lose

this game that they should win, and it was. That's every game they should win they lose. It's just without fail, what happened? Yep. Then we had the Rams beat the Jaguars in London. We had the Bears

beat the Saints. Browns crush the Dolphins. The Patriots beat the Titans. Chiefs shut out the Raiders. Eagles beat the Vikings. Panthers beat the Jets. Broncos beat the Giants. Cults beat the Chargers. Cowboys beat the commanders. Packers beat the Cardinals. And currently, the 49ers are losing 3 to nothing to the Falcons

as of the recording of this podcast. NBA is going to be starting up this week, so it'll be fun. We'll have more basketball to talk about. Over in baseball, We currently have the Toronto Blue Jays beating Seattle in game six. Seattle's up

3 to 2. So if the Blue Jays win this we go to game 7, see who will go to the World Series. And they'll play the Dodgers because obviously. But dude, I don't know if you saw Shohei Otani head. Did I see it? Those three home runs, so many strikeouts,

it hurt everyone. Just a great game. Yeah. That guy is unstoppable. Yeah, like genuinely insane. Like he pitched in the game and threw like six innings, 10 strikeouts,

no runs, and then hit three home runs. One was like an insane massive home run. Like that's like 480 feet or something like that. Crazy. Like that's not just like one of the greatest baseball performances. That's like an all time to sports performance in general.

I was genuinely insane. Yeah. But I've also learned I cannot go to Dodgers games anymore. Every time I go, just does not play well at all. Shohei has like his worst. I've gone to three games now

and all three times the Dodgers have lost. When I stay at home, they win and so stay at home I show. That is pretty funny. They just see you in the stands. They're like, is that macho man? They're like not today. Is that the bearded macho man up there?

Is that brother beard? You can't have him here. I'm too nervous to perform. And we got hockey standings. Hockey started. We got the Red Wings in first place right now. Carolina Hurricane, the Colorado Avalanche, and the Golden Knights, all in first. But there's plenty of hockey to be played still.

Yep. And that's sports. Okay. What is our fact of the day? Fact of the day. The average dinosaur lifespan was surprisingly small. The Tyrannosaurus Rex, for example, reached full size between 16 and 22 years and lived up until 27 to 33. The largest dinosaurs such as the Brontosaurus and Diplodocus tended to live up the 39 to 53 years may be reaching the heights of 70. I mean, that seems like a decent lifespan for dinosaurs.

Hell, that was our lifespan for a while. Yeah, really. It's like, I don't know. I thought it was going to be like 10 years or something. And they're like, no, they live like 30 years. I'm like, what? That seems like a long time for a T-Rex. It took modern medicine to make it so we lived longer than 30 years.

Yeah. So this fact is a lie. How dare they? How dare they? Well, but now you know about dinosaur lifespan. So we can just say, did you know, this is the average lifespan of dinosaurs

from back in the day back to the day okay who has come to us with tears in their eyes Dear illustrious sirs With tears in eyes The One who barely

survives during The dark in skies Whoa like poetic Okay The past Yeah The past play Oh we're not even done

The past plays Back like a lullaby The laughter Surounds me But I wear The skies Still a rhyme What is your worst

What is your worst And best Halloween memories Ooh Best Halloween memory Going around Trick or treating with friends We would all dress up It was super fun

Worst Halloween memory Realizing that none of my friends Wanted to go trick or treating Because we were all too old Damn dude Yeah that sucks The minute you realize

Everyone's like No dude we're too old for this You're like But We can still And then we could Okay And that's it. Then you're done. Now you're an adult. Now you got to go get a job and pay taxes. And that's it. Childhood over.

Yeah. That's that is a pretty depressing Realization. It's like another thing of your childhood ending. Yes. Trick-or-treating is so much fun. And then it's like, no, dude, it's over. You're too old now. It's like, what do you mean? When do we decide this? It's like, it's just it is what it is. I guess mine would be, I remember being a kid one year and it was like a blizzard on hot. Halloween. I was just like, and you're like trying to trick or treat. And it's like, oh,

holy shit, I knew it. That was a bad time. I was like eight or something. And then I had to like stop early. So that suck. But then I'd say the best was, I always enjoyed going to my friend's house because he lived in a neighborhood with more kids. So we'd like go trick or treating around there

and everyone had like crazy stuff and like cool like, like they'd turn their porch into like haunted things. You know what I mean? Like a little haunted house type thing. They'd give out candy. We would do that too. We would specifically go to a friend's house that lived in like a rich neighborhood

where they put on like shows. Like one guy would make his whole house a haunted house. Like yeah, they would do stuff because they had the time and the money. And then you get like a full ass candy bar at the end. That was great. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Smart move. Yeah. Because then where I was it was like just old people. And there was like, eh. So there was like nothing there. So that was always fun. My favorite gift or whatever, treat for Halloween

was some guy gave me a roll of pennies. A whole roll. I'll never forget that. A whole roll, one dollars worth of pennies. I mean, at least he gave you a dollar's worth.

It could have just gave you like five pennies. That's what I'm saying. But like, I just thought it was funny because in my mind, I'm like, did he give everyone a roll? How many rolls of pounds? Which honestly,

probably cheaper than buying candy. It probably is, yeah. it probably. Although now you have a bunch of kids that have weighted bags filled with pennies that they can whack each other with, which is exactly what we did. Yeah. Oh, all right. Cut it out! And the next one is Dear Lesser, sirs, I come to you with chemical burns on my face

and blisters on my knees. Which historical figure do you think would have the... What happened to you? Oh my God. Which historical figure do you think would have the funniest Twitter TikTok YouTube. Oh, this is tough because is it real funny or just

they don't know that they're funny? I don't know. Either one. You can say one of each. Aristotle and Plato on Twitter would be amazing. That would be pretty great.

They would be both funny and unintentionally funny the entire time. Yeah, that would be pretty funny. I'd love that. Oh my God, that would be great. Yeah, I'd follow Aristotle too. That'd be great.

What about like... Plato, corrupting the kids? Yeah, it'd be a good time. What about like some old Vikings? Like Leaf Erickson or something. Yes. Vikings on Twitter would be incredible. Going to raid the British again.

Hashtag Viking life. Photos of them with a burning village in the background. It's on TikTok. Hashtag raid culture. What's some guys who will not believe the village we just raided is unbelievable. They didn't even put up a fight. They just ran into the woods. We just took everything crazy. You know, guys, tell me what village you want me to raid next. Leave it in the comments section. We're gonna head over there.

But keep follow, like- Maybe I'll raid your village next. Whoa. Yeah, that'd be funny. As long as your village wasn't getting raided, of course, but... Right, well, no, but because it's social media, you sign up to get raided. Oh, yeah. You write in and you're like, please raid my village. He's like, all right, I'll do it.

All right, I'll do it. The whole camera crew shows up and he's like, you asked me to raid your village. Like, I did, I did. All right. Let's do it, boys. They just burn everything to the ground. The kids like looking on in horror. Leaf Erickson raiding my village right now.

High five. Yeah, that'd be pretty fun. It'd be good. That's your dear lustrous sirs. What is our big news story of the day? Big news story of the day. at the woppy I heard that

I don't think he's going to do the news story No he's not Researchers discover shocking truth about Chicago's rat hole What you mean Why I feel like I know this But I have Have we talked about this before the rat hole

I think we've talked about the rat hole But now they've discovered Shocking truth about it. Ah, rats. Great, great. Researchers think they have debunked the origin of Chicago's so-called rat hole. Hold on. The rat hole wasn't what you think. It wasn't some back alley bar that served as a speakeasy for the city's notorious gangster clientele or a peniment stuffed to the brim with junk. It was actually a full body impression of an unlucky critter got trapped in a wet sidewalk cement. Uh, in the city's Ross, village 20 or 30 years ago. It closely resembles the spread eagled rat complete with outlines what appears to be tiny

claws, arms, legs, and even a tail. Rat hole went viral early last year after comedian Winslow Dumain posted a photo of it on X. The post drew curious tourists to the site at all hours with some leaving coins and other odd objects around the impression of its tribute.

Yeah, there's definitely one photo of a bunch of coins on the rat hole, but then also what appears to be a bag of drugs? Oh, all right. Like a bag of little pills. Like, oh, okay. A whole bag of them.

The constant traffic drew complaints from neighbors, though, and in April 2024, someone filled the impression with a substance resembling plaster. City workers eventually removed that slab of sidewalk and took it to the city hall, building, a plaque honoring the rat hole remains at the actual site.

That's so funny. Researchers hailing from The University of Tennessee, New York Institute of Tech College of Osteopathic Medicine and the University of Calgary published a paper Wednesday in the journal Biology Letters that concludes the rat hole was most likely created not by the titular rodent, but a squirrel or musk rat. No way. No way. I mean, I guess they're squirrels and that's kind of like rats. But the body shape! It's so rat-shaped! Well, let's see. The researchers studied online photos of the rat hole

compared measurements of the imprint to museum specimens of animals commonly found in the Chicago area, and the presence of arms, legs, and a tail excluded birds, snakes, frogs, and turtles shrinking the possibilities to a mammal. The claw outlines further reduced the field to rats, mice, squirrels, chipmunks, and musk rats.

The creature's long, four limbs, third digits in hind paws were too large for a rat, but fell into the measurement ranges for Eastern Gray Squirrels, Fox Squirrels, and Muskrats. The most probable suspect is the Eastern Gray Squirrel, given how abundant that creature is in the Chicago area. That's true. We got a lot of squirrels. I guess he just, the way his tail landed,

it looks like a rat tail instead of a squirrel tail, I guess. Yeah, I have seen some squirrels with, like, weird tails. So it's possible. Maybe you just had a weird tail or something, or like a not fluffy tail. Other researchers have theorized that a squirrel created the imprint. The study acknowledged, and cement is typically wet during the day, and rats are nocturnal, the creature didn't leave any track, suggesting a squirrel misjudged a leap or slipped from a branch and landed in the wet cement.

So basically, science is ruining this for everyone. Yes. The imprint didn't show any sign of a bushy tail, but hair often lacks the rigidity to create deep, well-defined impressions, and it would have been surprising to find an imprint, the study said. We therefore proposed that the specimen be rechristened the windy city sidewalk. squirrel and name more fitting of its likely origins and more aligned with the evidence at hayne so it's the squirrel hole just not good enough rat hole sounded more fun squirrel hole it's like we're it's like we're ruining the legacy of

this this rat it might not have been a rat but that squirrel you know you can call a man a rat so why can't you call a squirrel a rat same reason you can't have monkey Mondays damn dude you're right you're right one day though one day they'll return one day when the rat hole and the monkey mondays return yep

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