Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - #143: What Happens When You Realize That YOU Are Enough with Lisa Lampanelli

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

What does it take to pick yourself up out of the grind and make a change? The incomparable Lisa Lampanelli is back with me today to discuss that very question. Lisa is a world-renowned comedian turned storyteller and inspiration who has gone through a tidal wave of work to embrace a healthier life. She has downsized! She has prioritized! And she now has room in her life for the important things to flow in. She shares how she figured out how to go from overwork to balance, grieve through transitions, and put self love first. Join us as Lisa and I dive head first into the life altering journey that starts with “you are enough”.  About The Guest: With a career that spanned more than 30 years, Lisa Lampanelli was a constant on the comedy scene. With numerous tours, Grammy nominations, and national TV guest appearances and specials under her belt, Lisa made headlines in 2012 when she lost more than 100 pounds with the help of bariatric surgery. The comedian went on to speak with unflinching honesty about her lifelong food and body-image issues, and has since gone from insulter to inspirer. She announced her retirement from stand-up comedy on the Howard Stern radio program in late 2018 and is now dedicating her life to performing in storytelling shows and being a general overall bad-ass.   Finding Lisa Lampanelli: Website: https://lisalampanelli.com/  Listen to Losers With A Dream Podcast Twitter & Instagram: @LisaLampanelli Review this podcast on Apple Podcast using this LINK and when you DM me the screen shot, I buy you my $299 video course as a thank you!    To pre-order Overcome Your Villains NOW and get the bonus bundle click here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com     See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

So I had lived my life beating myself up for a year about something that didn't even happen. And six pounds, who cares? We're judging ourselves by, oh, I didn't make it up to the top level of having a sitcom. I didn't make it to where I was a size zero. You know, guess what? We did okay. We're never going to be the best. We're never going to be the worst.

We're somewhere in between. And that's okay. I'm on this journey with me. Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals. overcome adversity and set you up for a better tomorrow. I'm ready for my close-up. Hi, and welcome back. I am so excited for you to have, actually, I was going to say my amazing guest this week,

but my amazing guest this week was actually one of my first guests ever in 2019 when I launched the show. But today I have the amazing announcement of having Lisa Lampinelli, a storyteller, performer, and inspiration to millions back on the show. She's got a career that spanned more than 30 years. Lisa was a constant on the comedy scene. Numerous tours, Grammy nominations, national TV guest appearances and specials under her belt. Lisa made headlines in 2012 when she lost more than 100 pounds with the help of bariatric surgery. The comedian went on to speak with unflinching honesty about her lifelong food and body image issues. She's since gone from insult her to inspire her major change.

She announced her retirement from stand-up comedy on the Howard Stur. radio program in late 2018 and is dedicating her life to performing in storytelling shows, inspiring others, and being here as a guest today. Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. Oh my God, of course. I'm here with my little rescue dog Parker, who is so needy that, God forbid, his mother wouldn't be retired. Like, thank God I'm essentially retired. Now, hang out with two dumb dogs. I think they would freak out if I didn't. So yes, I am happily working on very little these days and thrilled to tell you about it. I can't believe that the pace at which that you kept for so many years, Lisa, is it's got to be

exhausting. I mean, when you look back, do you miss that pace or are you happier to be taking it easy now? I have to tell you, we were chatting off the air before we came on and I was reading about retirement. And when I retired from stand up, I literally can say, I honestly telling you the truth when I say there's not one thing I miss about the old life. Like literally nothing. What's to miss? Seeing different hotels, airports and theaters every day. The only thing I miss is talking about myself, which my podcast, which I'll tell you more about later, you know, that obviously is a nice outlet for that because I could show people, you know, some of my wisdom when I've learned along the way. But dude, like there's literally such a hard

life with comedy that thank God I was raised by Depression era parents who were like, save your money. And if you don't want to do it anymore, you don't have to. And I think I'm finally, after all these years of like, ooh, do I do nothing? Do I do a little of this? Do I do a little of that? Do I just sit around and pretend I have hobbies, which BTW, I don't. What's the balance in retirement? Because I think a lot of people struggle with it. But there's no books about it. I found one book on retiring the mental and emotional stress and grief of it. So it's very interesting to be going through that. And I'm glad I'm learning. Well, I mean, good for you. You're always learning. You're always evolving. I mean, you're constantly embracing these transitions that you go through and you're so real in sharing it.

I don't know many people that are retiring. It's not like you have to, first of all, right? You have shows that you can be doing. You have audiences. You have huge following. So what was making you say, okay, I want to start dial it back even more. So I think what happens is we get on a track of some sort and you start doing clubs. And it's the same stuff parallels anyone in business or any career. You start doing clubs. You start getting paid. You start doing theaters if you're lucky, TV, film.

And then you start doing Radio City, Cardagie Hall and next Madison Square Garden. And it literally dawns on you one day that none of this is filling the hole. Like there's a hole inside that we're all trying to fill. with some kind of achievement that never gets filled with that. And the only thing that fills us from the inside is self-love. And that's the thing we forget to work on, or at least I did. So when I started noticing my own life that I didn't love doing stand-up anymore, I hate to travel. Like I literally now, if you told me I never had to go outside of my state again, I'd be thrilled. Because I just, that's not me. I'm not born that way. So you start,

noticing and then you go, huh, well, if I don't like it, why am I doing it? And I don't want the audience to start seeing that. And now it's sort of after three years or so of trying different experimenting with, what do I want to fill my time with? I do very little, but the stuff I do, I look at my calendar. And I'm like, ooh, I love that. Oh, I love that. I love that. And there's nothing that's horrible. And there was a lot that was horrible, but of my own doing, getting on some track of like, oh, find acceptance through comedy, try to connect through comedy. How about I connect to in my real life. How about I go to the store and say hi to the clerk and not be in such a rush? Like there's connection everywhere and it doesn't just have to come through show business or work.

It's so interesting you say that for a long time and I think this happens to most people is that you get in some track, whatever it is, business, comedy, whatever, and that you don't pick your head up to think, I'm not really happy going to work every day. I don't really love this. No, you start thinking this is what I'm supposed to do. I have to pay the bills. This is the decision I made Like there's no chance that you could just pump the brakes and tries to do something different. Right. And what's funny is everyone can change and what they do. And they say, I think they say now people have three different careers throughout their life. It used to be three different jobs. Now it's like three different careers fully. And I did. And I'm like, oh, why can't I change? I mean, no, I could always move to a small house, which I did. I could always like, you know, something fancy, which that was just another. attempt to fill the hole. Like, why do I have to be fancy? Like, why do I have to buy the clothes and the

shoes and the bags and all this ridiculous stuff? Because it never fills that internal thing. So we get scared to change, though, because with any change, even if it's a good one, there's a loss. So if I changed from unhappy celebrity comic to happy retiree, there's still loss and grief, and we're afraid to feel it because there's a loss of identity. There's the, wow, I'm not somebody anymore in anyone else's eyes. I'm just kind of this chick who kind of goes to the store and does her little ballroom dance class and does her podcast and she's kind of just like us. So again, there's a loss.

You feel it. And the key is going, well, it's a change for the better, but I'm still going to have to feel that grief and sadness and get through it instead of not. feel it. So I think that's why people are just afraid to change and I get it. It's hard. I like that point that you made that change is representing some kind of loss. I don't really think of it consciously that way, the way that you articulated it. So thank you for saying that because we are all being hit with so much change and with it we're not necessarily stopping to say, oh my gosh, I just gave up or lost something as a result of this. Even if it is something good like

you just mentioned. Yeah, your life can get better, but you're still. still going to have loss from the past that you have to go through. And everybody thinks grief is just about when someone dies. And it's like there's, we talked about it on my podcast, death of a dream is huge, which is basically, say someone always wanted kids, but ended up couldn't. You still have to grieve the kids you didn't have. If somebody wanted to, say me, it would be, you know, say it was Madison Square Garden, even though that wasn't a huge dream.

Say it was, I would have to grieve that. And there's nothing wrong with feeling sad. You obviously don't want to get stuck in it and have what they call complicated grief, which is where your life cannot move on and you have to really figure out why you're stuck. But it helps you get through it. It helps you go, oh, I'm allowed to be sad and move on. And it's just, it's astounding to me. I just cannot believe how much better life can be if you change it, but going through it is hard.

Going through the change is that's the hard part because you don't know what's on the other side. It isn't guaranteed that Lisa Lampinelli is going to be happy if she is the retired comedic person. Like you said, you're willing to give up the loss, not knowing what's on the other side. And that's really scary. Yeah. What helps people through, I think what helped me was like, we never know what's on the other side of anything. Like literally, who knows what will happen when I step out the door today to get the mail? Like, who knows what will happen if I go in the backyard? Like, you just don't know. So when we go, well, we really are powerless. And we really can't control anything.

And people like me who've been brought up the way we have control issues. We want everybody to do what we say and we want our life to go as planned. Nothing goes as planned. And resilience, I noticed too, like everybody throws around the word resilience. I had tons when it came to career. Like I'd bounce back. I'd do this. None in real life.

I didn't know how to come back after argument with someone. I didn't know how to come back and say, I'm sorry. I didn't know how to come back when it was, you know, getting knocked down from some bumped off somebody's list for a party. Like I just was like, how do you, how do people keep coming back? And now, oh, I did it with comedy, but not in my life. And now I'm learning how to keep doing comebacks, which is funny because when we first met, I was doing retirement one way, which was definitely still busyness, which was like

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And I'm like, okay, that was still like, that was still like a full time job. So I'm like, that's not retiring. And then it went to, okay, I'm going to, after my mom passes, I was like, I'm not going to do anything. And I literally got rid of like I downsized my houses. I bought the house I grew up in from her. It's so cute and little. And I have the dogs.

I was like, I'm just going to sit and I'm going to enjoy life and declutter. And I'm like, well, that lasted six months. And I'm like, okay, what brings me joy and a little happiness? And I started just experimenting these little tiny pursuits, like little and small. And I just go, oh, my God, I have cute little hobbies that don't look like anyone else's. They're not knitting or quilting or drawing. I have no talent whatsoever in that stuff. But what can I do?

I like talking. I like writing. But very small quantities. So I don't feel like I'm back in the grind. And there's no goal with a capital G. It's living, and what it is, it's like living with a ton of small G goals.

No big one. Like there's no big G goal in my life other than to like myself. So that'll be when I'm 80. Because like, you know, I got to work on him for 20 years. So I really like myself, I think.

I got 20 more years left. But I'm like, wow, everything else is just fun. and light and little G and I have to pull it back if it becomes a goal because then I'll get back on the stand-up comedy, not physically doing stand-up, but I'll get in that mindset of like, it's never enough. It's like right now, if I quit everything, I'm enough. And it's just learning that. So it's a very, it's an interesting place to be in that not a lot of people talk about.

It's profound. It's really big. If you could go back, do you wish you had learned this earlier or do you think that would have hurt your career if you were willing to let go of these things? I would have been willing to not have much of a career if I had more self-love. Definitely. Like, who cares? Money means literally nothing. We'll always, we're all, you know, not every person on earth, but you and I, people listening probably, we'll always have a roof over our head. We'll always have food in the fridge. We'll be fine. We'll find a friend here or there or a relative. we can always stay with someone. So the fact is, if I could have done things with,

oh, that sounds like a cute thing, stand-up comedy. Oh, I'm going to like keep the mindset I did when I was an open micer because that's the best time ever when you're a comic is just starting out, not getting paid, sitting at the diner with the guys afterwards and just being like, hey, man, what do you think of this joke? What do you think of that? And I'm like, what's funny, that level is a blast.

And then the stakes start going up. and you've got to stay quote unquote on top of whatever it is. Do your, like I did a ton of tonight shows. I did a ton of roast. I did five Comedy Central and HBO specials. I mean, it was rarefied air. So it's cute to remember that and go, oh, that's cute. Like I got to stay in these fancy places.

But you go, did it really do anything? Not really. Because when you go back and you start thinking of what I really remember as far as heartwarming things that I did, it's like, oh, that person who came up after and said the show helped them through their life, or past grief, which was huge for me, or, oh, I cooked Thanksgiving dinner for my whole family for the first time when I was 50 or whatever it is. Those are the things I remember. And I'm like, oh, yeah, Radio City, that's fine. I'm not ashamed of an accomplishment.

We should all feel proud. But then we got to recognize it just work. It really wasn't anything else. It's just work. Everybody's just going to work. So I would have loved less success, more real connection with my life and myself. And that would have been really cool. But I wasn't brought up that way. It wasn't my journey. And thank God, I always laughed because I go, the best thing money can do right now for me, if I need therapy seven days a week, I can afford it.

So it's almost like you use whatever you have to show for your career to make yourself better and the world better, hopefully, because if you're better in the world, everyone around you feels it. I also think people didn't talk about this kind of stuff years ago, not even five years ago. I didn't really hear about this. And your message is essentially self-love first, and that's the quality of life.

And that's the real goal, right? But no one taught any of us that growing up or even as a young adult, I certainly didn't know. And I certainly don't have it figured out now. However, I'm aware of it because of conversations like this one. And so at least we have the awareness. And hopefully someone's hearing this today and thinking, oh, this is a good reminder that I don't just have to check the box to check the box. Maybe I could spend a little time with myself doing something that's special for me.

And that could be the goal today. 100%. Like I think the biggest thing to remember is three words, you are enough. And if that is the goal that by the end of your life, starting today, you can start to figure out how to know. you're enough without accomplishing one more thing. You are not your accomplishments. You are not your money in the bank. You are not anything other than you were put on this earth to be you.

And I'm like, wow, if I could be a little less angry tomorrow, if I could be a little more kind and hold the door tomorrow, if I could be a little more patient with the old person tomorrow, it's like, oh, that's why I was put here. I wasn't put here to make money and to be fabulous. It's like, it's kind of like pretty basic. Like, it's not hard to figure out if you slow down. I'm sure you get this too, dude.

You've always understood it. We don't slow down. Like, there's, because shit comes up. Like, dude, like today even, I had the whole morning off. And I was like, oh my God, things are coming up. Uh-oh. I'm doing too much. I feel I have to accomplish something.

Oh, my God, notice it, figure out the feeling. work through it and then you're better off because then you can fully be present for whatever you do that day. But slowing down makes you feel and think and no one wants to do any of that stuff because that's hard. That's hard thing. It's hard earning millions of dollars. It's hard feeling, you know? Well, and also, especially depending on how you were growing up, you know, I was a middle child and I definitely was an overachiever. So I started noticing at a very young age, When I get MVP, when I, you know, hit the ball out of the park, I'm get people are excited with me. I've got to do that again.

I like how that I want people to come. And I'm not going to lie. I'm 47. I still love what I give a keynote speech and people come up me and say, oh, that was a minute. I get so excited. It's hard. It's hard to detach from that feedback. But there's not a problem with being, if liking that feedback, that's badass.

Like I was at a comedy club to support a friend the other day. And like, I got recognized. much. I don't get recognized that much anymore because of my hair and because I lost all the weight. And, you know, most of my appearances were for that. But a lot of people word travels and they're like, oh my God, that's her and stuff. It's so much fun to have people come up. Even I was at a ballroom dance thing because I ballroom dance badly twice a week. And my goal now is to do everything badly because it's just more fun. Like, what am I going to try to be all fancy and beyond Dancing with the Stars? No. And one of the original Dancing with Stars dancers was on

was at this event and he was my mom's favorite and she just loved him. So I had to go tell him. And I got a kick out of the fact that he knew who I was, that he was like, oh, we'll have to have dinner with me, you and my wife. And I was like, well, that felt good, but be careful. See, my thing is you can't need it. You have to enjoy it. Like the money or anything else. It's not saying downplay accomplishments or money or a nice car. It's saying, yeah, I like it, but I can't need it. The only thing I think I really, actually, you know,

I've been listening so much to the minimalist podcast that I'm like, we don't really need anything. We like literally need a small place to live in food. Like that's kind of it. We don't even need people.

I mean, we want them. It makes our life more pleasant. I love my dogs. But we don't need a lot. And I think it's funny, I was at a friend's house yesterday. She was talking out. She wanted to be a screenwriter.

And they live in a gorgeous, like multimiless. million dollar house. And I'm like, well, you don't need this house. Oh, yes, we do. And at that point, you're like, you don't argue with people. You just go, okay, no, that's great because that's her journey. Nobody could have told me two years ago I didn't need a multimillion dollar house. It's hilarious. Why the F does one person and 10 pounds of dog need a house like that? And yes, I think we're all afraid to downsize to what is really resonating with us on the inside instead of this. outside stuff. So yeah, it's, again, you can't argue people into your journey. That's their path,

but you got to recognize your own self of how you are reacting on your journey, which is why I got out in the first place. I feel like having watched you and knowing about your history, you started this. This isn't brand new for you. You started this process a few years ago. You started giving up the clothes and the bags. You started giving up, you let go of the weight, Right. Like you started making these changes where you were dropping things through time to get you now to where you're okay, now dropping the next layer of things. A husband, and thank God we're still friends. I had a very pleasant divorce. The husband, I think starting 50 years old up was, and I just turned 60, I think that's the, that's when all the shedding started. Again, it's not that deliberate. I need to rid my house of everything. I have a lot of stuff, but it's all sentimental. And again, do I need all that? No, I still remember my parents and my everyone in my life. So it did start with the more, the stuff that was very surfacing, you know, the bad marriage, the

weight, the too many places to live, the too expensive stuff, furniture, all that. I was like, oh, that's cute. I can get rid of that. Don't need any of that. And then it became career. It's like, I've literally minimized my whole life and it feels so much better because they say, if you want something and a happier life, you don't add things. It's what you take out. So if I'm taking out meaningless things, other meaningful things rush in to fill that. And it's like, oh, it's okay for your drawers. I just gave my nephew, you laugh.

I have these very hip, cool nieces and nephews who are musicians and skateboarders and stuff. So they love all these old 90s sweaters that my mom had. so I saved him about, oh God, I saved them like 20 of them. And he said, oh, these are so badass. They're going to love these at school. And they're awful, but they love them kids. Gave it to them. And I said, hey, Tanner, isn't it interesting?

There's two empty drawers here now. And I don't have to fill them. And he's like, wow, that's cool. And I'm like, yeah, it's cool to have empty drawers in our schedule, in our house, in our life, and in our, because it lets stuff in. Like, can you imagine? like the stuff that's just been rushing into my life in the past two years that make it full, like these weird little connections with real people. I'm like, oh, how did I end up with so

many cute acquaintances and little things to do and fun hobbies? Because I had to empty at first and then not feel empty and see what comes in to say yes to. I talk a lot about firing your villains, firing negative people from your life to open up space to allow good things to come in. And it's such an appropriate analogy from what you're explaining, because I haven't thought about it the way that you articulated it, that it's not about what you're adding to it. It's what you're subtracting from it so something better can be added. Yeah, like I used to always use that when I would talk about men or relationships because I would like, if you're holding onto something, your hands aren't open to receive. So I always thought about when it came to men or bad relationships. But

then I'm like, oh my God, it's your whole life to give you a shameless plug with a quick story for my podcast. And again, something I do out of just love for the two people I'm doing it with. I literally was asked by a niece of mine to go see this standup comic who was just starting. A few years ago, before COVID, I said, oh, he's got something. And then it was fine. I was like, oh, gave him some notes. That's it. Bumped into him during COVID at a UPS. No problem. Reconnected after COVID. And I overheard him and another male comic, straight guys, white guys talking so freaking deep and vulnerable, I'm like, okay, wait a minute. I've never heard two straight guys talk with such feelings and emotions and vulnerability to each other. I go, this is a

podcast. So we decided to put this thing together. It's called Losers with a Dream. What happens is they talk about a big issue that I make them talk about. And it's hard. It's acceptance, vulnerability. We did fear of success. We did all that deep stuff you and I talk about and that we read about. And then I go in for a half hour and life coach them and make fun of them and have a good time. So it's kind of roasty too. That rushed in, meeting these guys rushed in because I had enough time and space to notice when my niece said, let's go see this guy. I wasn't squeezing it in going, but I'm very important.

I have so much to do. I'll give you 10 minutes. It was because, oh, that's cute. My niece wants to do that. And then I just kept noticing what worked and made me feel joyful and peaceful. And I've never worked on a project. It's so weird. I would say since those open mics when I first started comedy,

that I cannot wait to get to that studio, cannot wait. We have a writing meeting every week, and we're writing a sitcom pitch that will never be made because, you know, networks are so crazy and it's okay, just to have fun with it. I'm like, wow, that's just pure joy. And I get a, I think getting a kick out of something

is something I didn't notice before. So I think that shows that when you, have that little empty space inside to have some fun, you can say yes to the right stuff. So that's why I like it. What's the name of the show, Lisa? Oh, yeah, it's called Losers with a Dream. And that's from one of the Comedy Central roasts when I used to talk about the whole dais of comics and people up on the stage, I would say. But enough about these losers with a dream. Let's talk about Hulk Hogan or whatever. And the reason we call the podcast that, and I gave them that name, I said, because we're all kind of losing. But we all have dreams. So I've lost in certain ways.

We've all have lost in our lives. And these guys are kind of like, we suck at dating. We suck it life, kind of, and work. But we're really trying. So we all have that dream of having fulfillment. So that's why I like that the show called that because it's cheeky.

But also we're all kind of losers and that's okay. We're all misfits. We're all the island of misfit toys. we're all dented cans trying to bang out the dents. Thank God we're the people trying to bang the dents out instead of being the dented cans who run around and just hurt people. Oh, it's so true. Hurt people are out there hurting people now more than ever you see it online. It's crazy, right? And I'm just like, I've been a hurtful person in my life in instances, definitely. And I said when I retired, if anyone had their feelings hurt, they should definitely contact me and I would apologize because, boy,

it's powerful when you get an apology. I've gotten some and given some and it's transformative. So I really like to go, okay, just because I was hurt in my life doesn't mean I have to hurt you. And it's owning that stuff. And starting to forgive yourself for those things, for those mistakes and let it go and not torture yourself over it. Well, it's interesting you say that because I still beat myself up a lot for various things. It's interesting with the weight and food stuff has been so rampant, especially with COVID. It's like people are piquing themselves up for gaining COVID weight.

And I remember I was like, oh, I had weight loss surgery 11 years ago, kept my weight off. It's like a miracle because so many people don't. And I literally in COVID was convinced in my head because I'm so eating disorder that I had gained 20 pounds. I would not put on anything but sweats. And I get on a scale a year later and I had gained six. So I had lived my life beating myself up for a year about something that's, didn't even happen. And then what I did was I was talking to my shrink about it. I'm like, I'm going to forgive myself for those six pounds. And if they don't go anywhere, they don't go

anywhere. And six pounds, who cares? We're judging ourselves by, oh, I didn't make it up to the top level of having a sitcom. I didn't make it to where I was a size zero. You know, guess what? We did okay. We're never going to be the best. We're never going to be the worst. We're somewhere in between and that's okay. Lisa, you're so happy. You're so genuine. I am so happy for you. I'm so happy to see you continue to evolve and be stepping into doing something that brings you so much joy. So thank you for creating this show. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability. It means a world for people to hear someone who they have on a pedestal out there because of all of the work that you did in the world, of everything that you created to now be this vulnerable and real. It means so much. Thank you for

doing it. Oh my God, I love you, dude. And honestly, I remember when we did our first thing and I was like, she's cool. Like I literally reach out to very few people about going on their podcasts and stuff because, you know, again, this is a laborer love. It's, you know, just fun. I was like, Heather, it's cool as F. And plus, you're super hot. And one of my co-hosts has said he will marry you instantly because you're so pretty and smart. I like when guys recognize that girl's pretty and smart. So that's how they are. My gosh, so evolved. I so appreciate it. Well, where can we find the show?

Yeah, everywhere. It's on Apple. It's on Spotify. It's called Losers with the Dream. We have almost 20 episodes out. I'm so freaking proud of these millennials who can actually talk about stuff that's deep. I'm shocked because when I was 30, I couldn't. This is as vulnerable as I can get and I'm 60 and I'm like, how am I learning from people my age, especially men? So yeah, they can find it everywhere. It's really funny, but it's very heartfelt, too. And there's a few tears for me occasionally. I'm a big mushy heart when I have to be.

So I hope you enjoy it. Oh, thank you so much, Lisa. I love you, too. It was so great to see you. And everyone, check out the show. Lisa, never disappoint. Yay. I love you, dude.

I'll talk to you soon. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks, guys. I want to come on this journey with me.