Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - #431: YOU Be The Trailblazer: Introducing “Playing Small Is Canceled” with Craig Siegel and Heather!
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I'm ready for my close-up. Hi and welcome back. I'm so glad you're back here with me this week.
Okay, so you know, I always want to test and try new things. I'm so excited today.
A friend of mine, Craig Siegel, he's an incredible man that I actually have
only just become friends with in the last couple of years. So anyone that tells you,
you are done making friends when you're younger, no. Oh my gosh, no, he's amazing. We're so
on the same wavelength and whenever we do things, we have so much fun together. You
know those people that just like, you're so excited. I'm so blessed. I have so many people
like that in my life. So grateful. Anyhow, always make time for those people and let them know how much
you appreciate them. I'm trying to get in the habit of doing that every day.
I just sent a text to someone I appreciate so,
so much and it made him so happy and that makes me so happy. Right. So like,
I don't know, it just puts good vibes out there. So here's the thing is today.
Well, this is actually, it was recorded a week ago or a
few days ago.
Craig has a new show on LinkedIn live.
And when we did the show, he was interviewing me, right?
However, I noticed that it wasn't accessing my audience of over 300,000 people.
So I said to him after I'm like, we should have done that from my page to help you more,
right?
Like it didn't help you other than I think it's pretty good content.
You'll tell me what you think. Oh my gosh. I share some very personal things,
but it's so fun. Like if you need a high energy boost in your day,
this is it. You're going to love it.
Cause he and I just have great energy together. Anyhow. So I said to him,
listen,
why don't I share it on my podcast to help your region help you any way I can.
So today you're going to hear my good friend, Craig Segal's new show on LinkedIn. He's doing a LinkedIn live every week.
And I'm going to have all the links for everything in the show notes below.
So check them out. He's such a great person.
Has an incredible book out the art of reinvention and reinvention for me a lot.
Like he's just, he's all about doing that next right thing,
going to the next level,
surrounding yourself with great people. He's incredible.
So let me know what you think of this episode. I love it. And don't forget,
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It's the only way I work with people directly anymore.
And it's just with this team and we just closed out my last mastermind and these people have done the most incredible things. Their life has
changed drastically. One person left a spouse, one person left a job, another person left
a C-suite position in corporate at a fortune 100 and jumped to a startup and has been taking
the biggest stages in the world. Another person started their own podcast. Another one started
writing a book. Two of them have landed Ted Talks. It's epic with these people. One of them came to Saudi Arabia
with me. Some of the new people on the new team that are launching on Friday the 31st,
I'm already inviting them to come to the Microsoft event with me that I have coming up. I love
bringing my team with me wherever I go. So if you want to come to some of the events that I do,
you got to get on the team, get on the team.
You want to go to the next level,
get in the room with people who have done the things
that you want to do.
And I will tell you this,
I had an incredible meeting this week with my agent
and a speaker bureau and the things that I'm learning now,
mind you, six years into this business,
gosh, I wish I had known years ago.
If you want to get the hacks, the tips,
and the tricks to get ahead, I'm giving them all to you.
I'm giving you access to all my people, all the players and all the info I have. So if
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This is your last chance. If not this, then what? If not now, then when? All right. Cut
to me and Craig. Let me know what you think. I can't wait to hear.
On today's episode of Playing Small is Cancelled, we have a very abundant treat. We're joined by a powerhouse in the world of business and personal development. She's a top 50 keynote speaker,
two-time best song author, Ted speaker coach, and her content will penetrate your soul, no big deal.
From a thriving corporate career
to an unexpected termination,
she turned a challenging situation
into the ultimate redirection,
creating the thriving game-changing business
and brand she has today.
She's just a juggernaut in all of us life
and a terrific human being.
Please welcome the uplifting, radiant, and beautiful,
the confidence-creating, trailblazing,
and my dear friend, Heather Monahan.
How you doing, Heather?
I'm so much better now that I get to hang with you.
I'm so hyped to be here, Craig.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
We just started the show on LinkedIn.
Super excited to build up that platform and so forth.
You have an awesome LinkedIn presence,
but more importantly,
you are my favorite friends
that I have.
I love you so much, so much respect for you.
And every time we get together, it's just magic.
So there's no place in the world I'd rather be
than right here with you.
I feel exactly the same way.
You know what's interesting?
You just teed it up, you know,
sharing that I had been fired,
but here's what's so crazy.
First of all, two things.
AI is crazy.
So just so everyone knows, I have a clone now,
a digital clone of me, which it literally is me.
It lives on my website.
And it has a phone number.
You can call her.
And it's me talking like me to you with all the knowledge
that I have, which is surreal.
But I get met.
It's so bizarre.
I have to show it to you.
But anyhow, the point of my story
is that I got a message when the clone can't answer something
based off of my books, my podcast,
and all the knowledge that's out there in the universe,
it will send me a ping and say, Heather, the clone can't answer.
Can you manually answer?
Craig, this was crazy.
Someone sent a note to the clone saying, Heather,
I understand you had adversity earlier in your life,
but what challenges do you ever
have to face now?
I was like, what?
I'm like, there isn't an, I want like five pages to end.
I have challenges on the regular, like constantly, my life is constantly facing challenges and
overcoming them.
And I want everyone to know that, listen, the most confident people in the world,
it doesn't matter how confident you are,
how successful you are on paper, whatever.
Everyone who's going to the next level,
who's pushing themselves for more,
who's in a growth phase in their life,
you're constantly facing struggle,
challenges, and things don't always work out,
and that's okay.
I would say everyone's gonna have challenges
regardless of the life they're living,
but specifically with someone like you, who's constantly looking for that next level of expansion,
whatever expansion means to you, spiritually, business, professional, career, relationships,
there's always new obstacles and challenges.
Even on a spiritual level, like home, the opponent, the ego, whatever, the more you
get closer to the castle, elevate your consciousness, the more they like to feast on you because
they see what you're closer to the castle, elevate your consciousness, the more they like to feast on you because they see what you're up to.
Oh, it's so true. And it's so important for people to know that no matter where you are
in your journey, you're going to be challenged. You are not alone. You're in great company.
Me and Craig are with you. Craig, you're always pushing yourself. I've been watching you on
Instagram with these marathons, these races, you have physical ailments, you're having
health challenges and you still keep going. That can't be easy.
No, it's not. But would we really want it if it was easy?
I mean, I'll take a couple. I'm always looking for the easy button. I am happy with easy
when I get it. But obviously, I feel way more proud when I overcome something and then see
that vision that I had actually come to fruition or turn out
even better. And something for everyone listening, listen, five years ago, and I make myself do this
a lot, if I knew and was sitting where I'm sitting right now here with you, knowing what I know,
if I knew this five years ago, I would have been crying my eyes out so hyped, so excited. So don't
lose sight of that. Like be proud of where you
are today and reflect back and say, wow, like, it's a miracle
of things that have occurred in all of our lives. There's so
many blessings everywhere.
Yeah, I love that. And also, obstacles and challenges, even
though they're tough in the moment, that's really where we
are able to create the most growth moving forward. Right?
Like even like, it's to to take so much knowledge
out of a big win or success because it worked.
But some of the losses, the mistakes, the setbacks, the obstacles,
the stuff that really are blows and so forth, that's a lot we can learn from
and refine or redirect or even just cultivate resilience, courage.
So great point. And just reminded me of a story.
For everyone watching, I have a podcast
called Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan.
Craig, of course, has been a guest on it,
and one of my favorite guests.
And I was interviewing Jesse Itzler.
I was in Atlanta at his house interviewing him for my show.
And we got off the show, and we were talking.
And he's like, what's going on with you personally?
I'm like, oh, I'm freaking out.
My son has to go away to basketball camp.
And I'm so nervous for him.
I want it to go well.
I want it all to be a win and be a meet.
And he's like, whoa.
And he has a bunch more kids than I do.
And he's like, wait a minute.
You're losing sight of what actually counts.
You want him to be scared to death to go out there
and go out there.
You want him to fail and maybe almost want to come home
and stick it out and actually make it.
So that way, Heather, when he goes to college, he's like,
oh, I remember what this looked like.
Oh yeah, I'm not nervous now.
This is like, I'm comfortable with this
because I know what it looks like to fail.
I know to embrace it.
I know to step into it.
And he helped me reframe as a parent.
Like I was able to do that for me, but now as a parent,
I was able to say like, okay, you didn't make the team? This is an amazing learning lesson. Like we was able to do that for me, but now as a parent I was able to say like,
okay, you didn't make the team. This is an amazing learning lesson. Like we're not going to make every
team. Not everyone's going to pick us, but that's okay as long as we pick ourselves. Yeah, you always
want to protect someone that you care about specifically. I don't have a kid yet, but I do
have a puppy. He's like my son. And I always just want to protect it and make life easy for them,
but that's actually, that hurts them, right?
Because they have to go through some shit
for a lack of better word,
so they can start to cultivate courage, resilience,
grow, figure out, learn lessons, and then realize,
you know, spoiler, life is not always so easy.
There will be seasons that are tough,
but it's best to be able to have tools
to get through those storms.
Oh, so, so true.
There's gonna be seasons where things seem easier,
but they won't stay like that.
Like it's all temporary,
and you're always like in the middle of a story,
not knowing, you know, what next thing is going to,
to reveal itself to you.
So it's wild.
But I wanted to say something about this show
and what you're doing, which I think is so cool.
Right now on Netflix, well, first of all,
on Netflix is the Tom Brady roast,
which is literally the funniest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
I have to agree, I couldn't even believe it.
I never watched comedy like that.
I could not believe how funny it was.
Yeah, I've watched it twice already
and I will be watching it again.
I loved it.
Okay, so that's just a note.
But secondly, there, I'm a big fan of Kevin Hart,
my son, and I love to laugh,
so we watch anything Kevin Hart.
Right now, he's winning an award on Netflix,
and there's this really cool show.
It's kind of like a little bit of a roast about him,
but it's really funny, great evening
about him winning this award.
Anyhow, at the end, he's getting all these accolades
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That's right. Beautifully said.
And I love how you kind of connected that
to the title of the show.
We spoke at the UN about a month ago
and we haven't, I haven't seen many people in our space
doing stuff like that.
And one of the things I was most proud of
was to just potentially open the door
for more of us to be able to speak to crowds like that,
not necessarily the entrepreneurial events
or companies and so forth.
And I just thought it was awesome.
And when you said about Kevin Hart, so true,
every time you raise the bar, you showcase what's possible.
And now everybody along the ride has more opportunities.
Oh, it's so good.
And I recently spoke for Google.
And the woman that hired me to come in to give this speech,
we were talking offline.
And she was just being really honest with me.
And she's like, Heather, I have a really hard time where I am,
because there's not a lot of senior leaders in the company
that are female in the arena she's in.
She's like, so how can I do it if I
can't see somebody else do it?
And it's also important to know you don't have to see somebody else do it? And it's also important to know
you don't have to see somebody else do it.
You can be the first one.
I was the first one that I saw in media
in the C-suite as a female.
I was the first one.
Like you can be the one to pave the way.
You don't have to wait for somebody else.
It is a blessing when there's someone,
you know, like the Sarah Blakely's in the world
and Oprah's for women that have, you know,
paved these incredible ways,
but you can be the one that's breaking out and paving a new way. That's why I called you a trailblazer in the world and Oprah's for women that have, you know, paid these incredible ways, but you can be the one that's breaking out and paving a new way.
That's why I called you a trailblazer in the intro, because that's what you are.
Oh, thank you.
I certainly try.
I try so hard.
I'm a try hard.
Good effort and consistency and discipline, superpowers that are ironically accessible
to everybody.
Yeah, but it takes hard work and like you said, grit and a commitment to showing up every day.
And that's where it gets tough for some people.
I noticed that.
The Kevin Hart thing,
is there a documentary on that specifically?
The thing that I'm referencing, it's new.
It's like trending right now on Netflix.
It's this award that he's winning
and they just kind of showcase that story.
I don't know, but that would be so cool
if they did a documentary on that whole thing.
I would love to see whatever it is that you're referring to
because I love him too,
and his mindset sometimes gets overlooked
because he's funny,
but he's very intentional, visionary.
Such a visionary, yeah, I'll send you the link to it.
It's so good, you guys gotta watch it.
This is why I love getting together with you.
Besides the many obvious reasons,
I had an agenda for today's show,
and we're just all over the map.
I wanted to ask you a fun icebreaker.
You ready for me?
Like we need an icebreaker.
I know.
Yeah.
All right.
What does it mean to you Heather,
to live an authentic life?
That's a great question.
And here's why it really lands with me.
Guys, this is, I'm being so honest. So for 20 why it really lands with me, guys.
I'm being so honest.
So for 20-something years, I was in corporate America.
I dressed very different.
I wouldn't wear a jean jacket and a body suit anywhere,
because you had to be between the lines.
And Heather, stop wearing dresses.
Wear pants suits.
And Heather, it would be better if you had glasses.
It would make you look like you're more serious.
And don't ever wear your hair in a ponytail, I was told. suit. And Heather, it would be better if you had glasses. It was what would make you look like you're more serious. And
don't ever wear your hair in a ponytail. I was told, but I
would follow along like, okay, I want to get promoted. I want to
do the thing like, I want to make it to the top. I'm going
to play the game there. They're outlining for me, right. And
here's where I am saying that's not authentic, right? Like I
still was my personality. But sometimes I dial it down. I
wouldn't be as loud as I down. I wouldn't be as
loud as I am. I wouldn't always share my crazy ideas because I wanted to fit between the lines
so that I could make it to where I thought was the end goal. Cut to I get fired. I never have
showed up so authentically in my life of like, listen, I mean, I wear a ponytail wherever I want.
I wear jeans wherever I want. I wear a dress wherever I want. I wear jeans wherever I want.
I wear a dress wherever I want.
I do whatever I want, right?
Sadly, now I actually do have glasses,
and sometimes I have to wear them.
But here's the thing is that I'm so authentically me.
And that started with getting fired and putting a post up
that said, I've just been fired.
If I've ever done anything to help you,
I need to hear from you now.
And that post went viral.
Not for nothing, it went viral because I was so honest and so just real me, right?
The more real you can be, the more you're going to attract the right people, the more
you're going to attract the right romantic relationships, business relationships, clients,
partners, everything.
For so long, I was showing up as a curated version of me, still some me, but like some not really
me, me designed by other people and I was never going to reach my potential if I kept
showing up as a V-rate version of myself.
And also I love it all and it's hard to like really, really, really, really love yourself
if you're not really your true authentic self.
I know I struggled with that for a long time.
Oh yeah, because you and I know I struggle with that for a long time.
Oh yeah, because you and I have similar stories in that way. Yeah, no, there's no way you can love yourself if you're really not being yourself. Like that's a contradiction, it's an oxymoron,
right? To really love yourself is to accept yourself and to accept yourself is to be yourself.
Hell yeah, so good. A lot of the things that you talk about to do with confidence,
Hell yeah, so good. A lot of the things that you talk about
to do with confidence,
I'm wondering, I think this is tangible
for everybody listening and who watches the replay.
How do you cultivate confidence specifically
after a setback or something that like hurts your spirit
a little bit?
Let's talk about when I got fired, right?
Because that was one of the biggest
confidence breaking moments. And I'll tell you why.
I had given a lot of, number one, I wasn't showing up as a real me, right? So that was one where
Artie set me up for failure. But two, I was giving a lot of power and a lot of attention focused to
my paycheck, my title, my team, all these external factors outside of me that aren't true confidence, right?
Like you want true confidence to come from within,
no one can steal it from you then.
No one can take it from you then
because you own it, you rock it, right?
What I realized was my real confidence came from
my experiences, my intelligence, my personality,
my amazing network of real friends,
not the fake ones that fell off when I got fired,
but my real ride or die friends.
All these who your heart is taking chances,
all these things were my real confidence.
But because I had outsourced it for a while,
I was at a rock bottom.
I was at zero.
So here's a couple of steps that I
took that I hope can help anyone that's struggling
with confidence.
One, I ask for help.
Asking for help is something strong people do, okay?
Regardless of what other people tell you, I'm spitting facts right now.
So, you know, ask for help.
I did it. That post that I put up, I asked for help, went viral, landed me on the Elvis Durant show.
Get around people who are ahead of you.
That takes confidence and that builds confidence.
Start getting in rooms you're not comfortable in.
Going on his show made me feel uncomfortable, right?
Like, if you're the smartest person in the room,
you're never going to be confident,
because you're not challenging yourself
to grow and access new and different environments.
Step into fear on the regular.
That's what I started doing.
I realized I had been in one little bubble, one
little industry.
And when you do that, you're not really seeing yourself
or your potential for what the possibility may be.
Get out of that little bubble that you're in.
Start stepping into these unknown situations
and you're gonna start seeing where your talents
and skillsets add value in different ways.
I had no idea there was a speaking business
where people were paid billions of dollars
because I spoke for free
in my industry for 20 something years.
And people would tell me all the time, you're a great speaker.
I'm like, great, that and $10 will get me a coffee at Starbucks.
It didn't matter.
But that's because I was living in a bubble in the media business.
They didn't pay speakers.
We just relied on people doing favors for us for free because everybody wanted whatever
network or platform we had. We just relied on people doing favors for us for free because everybody wanted whatever network
or platform we had.
So I had to get out of that bubble
and start exposing myself to people in different industries.
Pick your head up today, get out of your industry,
get out of your bubble and start accessing.
And it's great you're here listening to this content
right now because we're probably not in your normal sphere.
But continually put yourself in different environments
and different spheres so that you can gain intel into what is it you're really meant to do, right? Like you're never going to be
confident if you're in an accounting role, but your real passion is painting and you come to life
when you're painting, right? To really step into true confidence, you got to kind of find your way
to, Heather, I don't know how to make that jump from accountant to a painter. Great. But now declare
it, declare that this is where your truth and your real abilities lie. Don't know how to make that jump from accountant to a painter. Great. But now declare it. Declare that this is where your truth and your real abilities
lie.
Don't know how I'm going to get there,
but I'm going to start taking small action steps on the daily
to get me to do it.
On the weekends, I'm going to spend time doing it.
Spend time doing the things that breathe life into you
and fire your villains.
Get negative people out of your life.
The day that lady thought she fired me,
I fired my number one villain from my life.
And it set me up to take off
because the minute I had negativity out of my life,
positive people started coming in left and right.
And I had to be open to, I don't know what's coming next,
but I got a feeling the more negative stuff I get away from,
the more positive opportunities
they're gonna start to present themselves.
That's it.
I mean, where do I even begin?
Unbelievable. Specifically the part where
you're talking about, like if you have a passion for painting, just take some
steps. This is where the juicy stuff comes in that I know you and I can jam
out on with spirituality. Like I believe the Creator, whoever's listening, maybe
you have your own thing, quantum universe, but when you awaken that desire to
really go after what tugs at your soul, that's where you create the opportunity
to receive some surprise support or some assistance, right?
Because you're going after it.
But if you're not gonna go after it,
you're just gonna talk about,
oh, I wanna do this, but I'm stuck at this job,
then you can't really receive those surprise blessings
and miracles, right?
Well, yes, I agree with you.
However, for anyone listening,
I was complaining probably
my last two years at that company.
On paper, I was in the C-suite making a lot of money,
had big responsibility.
It looked like Heather's nailing it, winning all these awards.
But inside, I didn't feel fulfilled.
But I didn't know what could be on the other side.
So I would just complain about it to my inner circle,
like, that lady treats me terrible.
I'm sick of being talked like this.
I don't want to work with her anymore.
I truly believe, Craig, on some level,
I was speaking that into existence.
So a lot of times, and what a blessing it was
that I got fired because I didn't have the confidence
or courage to leap on my own.
But what I would say to people is,
when you sit around and kind of complain,
like this isn't for me or whatever,
you're starting to speak stuff into existence.
You have no idea what that might look like. Instead, like this is how for me or whatever, you're starting to speak stuff into existence. You have no idea what that might look like.
Instead, like this is how I do it differently,
I would have started testing and trying
and building something on the side at the time,
on the weekends, at night, whenever I had free time,
to start seeing like where else could I find my skills
and assets, you know, drive revenue,
or like what else could this potentially look like?
Start exploring the positive and the opportunities
and you'll build momentum so much faster
than kind of sitting around and complaining,
which is what I did.
And then basically speaking that into existence too.
But I agree with that.
That's how that happened.
Well, one of the reasons why,
because everything happens twice.
First in the fear, as a thought,
and then manifest this in real life.
So the fact that you were very adamant about,
you're miserable, this sucks,
why did you treat me like that?
You were creating a new reality subconsciously.
It's so clear to me now, but it was not clear back then.
Right, and people will say like,
well, yeah, of course you could do that.
Of course you were gonna succeed.
I had no idea if I was gonna succeed, guys.
I had an 18 month non-compete,
which meant for 18 months,
I had to leave the arena that I was an expert in. I had to start overmonth non-compete, which meant for 18 months, I had to leave the arena
that I was an expert in.
I had to start over as a beginner somewhere.
And that is scary AF, right?
Especially because I'm a single mother
and I built an expensive lifestyle.
I am not married to some billionaire
and I have no need to pay bills.
I had to drive revenue quickly, just like 99% of people
out there.
And so I had to reinvent myself.
I had no idea what it would look like.
But I did start thinking, listen, those right doors
are going to open.
You have to start having that conversation with yourself
in a positive light.
I don't know what lies ahead.
But I know there's something great out there for me.
I know I was put on this earth to do good.
I don't know what it looks like.
But I'm going to have faith and take action steps.
And I'm going to move forward. And it's going to be messy. But eventually, I'm going to what it looks like, but I'm gonna have faith and take action steps and I'm gonna move forward and it's gonna be messy,
but eventually I'm gonna figure it out
and I'm gonna have faith that I'm on the right path
and you'll start seeing and you'll start getting momentum
and those doors start opening
and it's so beautiful when it finally clicks.
Yeah, one of the things that,
many things I admire about you most is messy action.
It's a chapter in my book just talking about that.
I think so many people I see, especially like aspiring entrepreneurs, they're waiting for it
to be perfect or they're waiting to get the energy to do it. First you do the thing, then you start
to get the energy, right? And the messy action creates opportunities that you didn't necessarily
have on your whiteboard, but you've got to give yourself permission to be less than perfect and
just take messy action, right?
P.S.
Nobody's perfect.
And if someone's trying to act perfect, run.
Those are not your people.
Those are fake people.
And we all have flaws and we all, you know, we're all going through growth phases, not
knowing what it's going to look like, knowing we're taking messy action and living in the
messy middle.
But the beauty is like when everything's
uncertain anything's possible like you don't know who that next opportunity is
going to be that next partner client like that's super exciting too. Yeah.
How do you personally overcome like self-doubt and stuff I imagine you still
face that every single day especially because you're always pushing the bar
and doing new things and stepping out of your comfort zone how do you overcome
like the ego of the opponent
that wants you to play a little bit smaller?
So the first thing that comes to mind is this crazy
and you know this, but I'm single right now
and I am not used to being single, so I'm dating.
And for some people, listen, typically at work
I'm super confident, like I've got an unlock.
Listen, I'm gonna make mistakes.
I'm not saying I'm perfect,
but my track record speaks for itself like that. I just lean on that
I'm like, hmm Heather, you're gonna figure this out. Like you always do right? However, I'm divorced
Right. Am I my I have a broken engagement a couple years ago
Like there's a lot of failures more failures my personal life than in my business career
So I'm kind of like I'm not at the strong strength that I have in business in the personal life arena. So
recently, I was actually on a date with someone and it was
like, great guy, wonderful person, it's going really well.
And I like regressed in my head, I got scared. And I couldn't, I
didn't manage it properly, which is disappointing, right? And so
like, I handled myself in a way that I used to when I was very young, and I haven't done that
in a long time, I got triggered and got scared,
and I didn't act as the best version of myself,
which is disappointing at 49 years old.
So I got out of the situation, and I sat with myself,
and I was like, gosh, I was full of self-doubt.
I was like, how can I go back 20 years of my life
in a moment, how am I not nailing this yet?
This sucks.
Oh my god, I blew it.
I started beating myself up.
And I remember something a therapist
said to me many years ago.
How's that working out for you, beating yourself up?
How does that play out for you?
I'm like, horribly.
I end up miserable.
I make more mistakes.
She's like, right.
So I knew the answer.
Pause, hit pause. Give yourself some grace, so I knew the answer, pause, hit pause, like, give yourself some grace,
which I'm learning to do in my personal life, right? I do it
all the time at work. But now I have to apply it over here. Okay,
give yourself some grace. That sucks. You made a mistake. Maybe
you need to check your ego and make an apology to this person
and own your poor behavior. And that's hard to do, right? Like,
because you seem like you're a little crazy.
And you're like, OK, this is not normal for me.
Anyways, I don't really do that my first life.
So I did it.
I made myself do it.
And this guy was so gracious.
But in the end, it ended up not working out.
And it certainly was because of how I handled myself
that night.
And I was like, you know what?
I need to check my ego.
And I need to say, great learning lesson. Because now it's so clear to me. like, you know what, I need to check my ego. And I just say great learning lesson, because
I'm now it's so clear to me, I don't know what that future
would have been with that person, and I won't. But now I
can learn from it, and I can be better moving forward. And so
it's funny, I'm going with all my friends this weekend, and
they're like, Heather, you never know who we're gonna meet this
weekend. I'm like, I can tell you, it doesn't matter who we're
gonna meet, I'm going to show up as the best version of myself
being kind and amazing to everyone I meet because I'm not gonna make that mistake
again. Like that much I know, like I know that about me. And so it's kind of saying,
like, I'm gonna check my ego, I'm gonna get away from what doesn't work for me, and I'm
gonna step into being who I really, really am and be open to whatever it is that happens.
And none of that has been easy for me,
but it's definitely, I'm a work in progress.
Yeah, that nugget just hit deadly with me as well.
How's that working out for you?
How many times, especially me and you,
like it's ironic because me and you thrive
and encourage people to take messy action.
But I also know me and you probably are a little bit
recovering like perfectionists,
like you wanna do a really good job with everything you do.
And so if you give less than your best performance
with something, it's like the worst, right?
You're like, oh my God, how could I do that?
I know better.
But then it's like, what good is that gonna do?
Like learn from it, correct it, transform it, be better.
I know it's easier said than done,
but I imagine both of us probably tend to beat ourselves
up a little more than we'd like to admit.
Oh my God, it's so easy to,
but giving yourself some grace, hitting pause.
I have a couple of people,
couple of my girlfriends that I have on standby,
and I call and they talk me right out of it.
You need to know who to reach out to in those low
moments, especially when you're not flipping
the switch for yourself.
You got to have those power people.
And listen, both of those people that are on my shortlist
that I call for my relationship problems,
they don't have jobs.
They're stay-at-home moms.
And that's great.
They're not people I call when I'm
having a problem with a business situation.
Like, there's different people in your life
for different reasons and different situations. And it's great to lean on them and let people lean on you. That's it. Yeah. We're going
to land the plane with the, if I'm being honest, the question I've been excited to ask you most.
I don't know where you're at with talking about stuff like this, but you and I had some really
deep conversations about faith and spirituality and stuff like that. And I know that it's played
a huge role in your life specifically, probably recently.
Any updates, how's it going with all that stuff?
With my relationship with God?
Yeah.
Amazing.
I mean, my, for anyone listening that doesn't know,
if you don't listen to my podcast,
you might not know this, right?
It's really the only place I talk about it publicly,
but I, a few years ago during the pandemic,
my son got very depressed and he lost his dog,
he lost sports, he was at home on Zoom school
and things were not good.
And I'm the most extroverted person I know,
maybe other than you, Craig,
that getting put on lockdown is not my vibe, right?
Like I don't thrive in situations like that
being alone and isolated.
So we went through a really tough time
and I'll never forget one day my son came out of the room
and said, mom, we need to get closer to God.
And when your child says something like that to you,
I picked up the phone,
called a mutual friend of ours very fast,
who's got a very close relationship with God.
And I was like, what do I do?
And he's like, you need to go to this church,
you church and get there as soon as you can.
And we went immediately.
And it started this incredible
journey, which is now four years ago, right? I had grown up Catholic and obviously God's always
been in my life. But you can listen when you're just kind of going through the motions, it's not
like, I don't know, it's different for me now. Right. And so I am, I'm very deliberate. I'm very,
I pray every single day. I hear from God, like I definitely have
seen miracles in my life. My son is like the biggest transformation and miracle out of
all of it. And what I would say is like for anyone who doesn't have a strong faith or
you did have faith and now you're upset about things or whatever it is, just be open to
like, I just, I invite you to be open to the idea that listen there's something way bigger than
all of us out there I think we all know that um be open to that idea that uh maybe you could have a
relationship with God maybe you could try to pray maybe you could find a community of people like
Craig and I that you could have in your space that when you have a problem we'll pray with you I have
I have a number of people in my life that I pray with, because prayer works, right? Like, look at the stats.
I mean, there's so much research on it.
Prayer works.
And just recently, I was doing a LinkedIn event,
and someone was telling me they had a horrible accident,
they were paralyzed, and that they didn't know what to do.
And the only thing I could think of was to just pray.
Like, we've got to pray.
Pray right now.
Like, let's just pray for you.
Pray for your healing.
Anything is possible.
God is miraculous, and I'm just so grateful that I've been on this journey,
which I know Craig, you're on the same one.
So I know that you are too.
Tell me what's going on with you right now.
Yeah, so I love it all.
Thank you for sharing.
I really dove deep into spirituality over the last year.
So I started taking Kabbalah and stuff
and went really deep with that.
I was spiritual advisor.
I think that there's bits and pieces
from all different philosophies, religious, spiritual,
and I said, people can sink their teeth into.
The first and foremost being that there's something bigger
than us, like you said.
And when you strengthen that relationship,
I would say there's confidence, like you and I talked about,
and then there's such thing as a knowing,
really trusting like a faith.
That's deeper than anything and that comes
with really developing and cultivating
a beautiful relationship with creator, God,
Hanukkah Harry, quantum universe, whatever your thing is.
But I'm a big believer in that if you want to go higher,
you've got to go deeper.
And this stuff has to be priority,
not just when you're going through a rough patch.
In fact, it should be the
opposite. When things are going really good, you should double down. And yeah, you'll see a lot of
divine synchronicities and coincidences and stuff like that. And even if you're going through a tough
season, it never really feels as bad as it once did. Like for me, it's because I just know somehow,
some way, whatever's happening in my movie right now, the creator is gonna make it net positive. It's so true and for anyone listening I would follow
Coach Prime on Instagram. I love his messages about God and faith and like
there's so many great people in the faith arena that you can follow on
social media that really can remind you to uplift your spirits, to focus on your
relationship, you know, to believe and to trust.
And there's such a piece that comes with all of that.
Meet a different guest each week.
What is all this?
Confidence, creativity.
Confidence, creativity.
I asked you to try to find your passion.
Yeah, beautiful said.
Of all the really cool and exciting things you have going on, what are you most pumped
about right now?
I'm most excited right now for my mastermind.
Once a year I open the doors and I put together a team of people that I work with for one
year.
Once the doors close, it's done for another year.
It's the only way to work with me outside of my keynotes and my consulting. So it's really like, it's an incredible way
to get like-minded people together,
to elevate yourself to the next level.
And the changes that I've seen,
I just ended my last mastermind a couple weeks ago.
And I saw one woman leave a toxic job.
She was a C-suite executive in a Fortune 100 company
and go to a startup and like step into her confidence
and step into the belief in life she really wanted that she had been afraid to. One of my clients is
writing a book, giving a TEDx talk, he launched a podcast, he launched a social media brand,
and this guy like he was very much cut and dry, you know, business before, completely transformed
his life. I had one of my masterminds came to Saudi Arabia with me
and was with me backstage, like with the CEO of TikTok,
taking the stage with the princess of Saudi Arabia,
like had the most incredible, like crazy experience
that she would have never imagined.
But all the reasons why people are doing these things
is because you're on a team of people pushing yourself
and one another to the next level.
I truly believe that's why I went to Saudi and accepted that speaking opportunity
was I'm like if I'm leading this team I need to do some crazy stuff. I need to do
some bigger stuff. Like I need to step into fear on the regular. So
if you're not where you are right now, like if you if you know you have more
within you, you know that you've got a message you want to share with the world
and it's time to amplify it. Go to the link in my bio and apply for
my mastermind now.
There's only one week left to apply
and hopefully I'll see you on the other side
and we'll have the biggest year together yet.
I endorse that.
And real quickly, how was Soria?
It was the top five best experiences of my life.
It's the largest stage.
There was 280,000 people there.
I took the stage like six times while I was there.
And what's so cool about that is I'll never be afraid again.
I'll never, like, it was one of those super scary things
because I'm like the only blonde American out there.
I don't know what, I don't speak Arabic, right?
Like I'm not very familiar with Muslims.
Like I didn't know what I was walking into
and people were so gracious and kind and supportive.
And it became so fun and incredible.
And I just, I'm so grateful.
And I'm going back there, hired me back for next year.
And it's just, you know, I got to interview Steven Bartlett
live on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people.
I got to give a keynote in front of like,
it was just, it was like magic.
And I truly believe that when you find your
purpose in your calling and you keep taking messy action and stepping into fear and moving forward,
those right doors are just going to open for you. You don't need to worry about it. Instead,
you just need to start embracing it. Yeah, I love it. So happy for you. And that's why I'm so happy
for all the people that were there to get to experience you. Oh, thank you. It was like, it is wild, man.
I was trying to speak Arabic on stage,
like putting yourself into these wild situations.
Now when I'm watching playback, I'm laughing so hard at me.
But I'm super proud of me, too.
I tried, you know?
And listen, I was nervous, and I went out there.
But then after doing the first one, I wasn't nervous anymore.
It just goes away, and you suddenly start realizing, Oh,
no, this is where I meant to be like, I'm gonna make it work.
Yeah. And I love to talk about chasing the butterflies, right?
Like when you get that feeling like nervous energy, you're on
the right path. That's your next level.
It's so true. And there's a fine line between fear and excitement.
Like I always remind myself, I'm excited. Your body doesn't know
the difference, right? You just need to be your own hype man and say like I'm excited
I'm excited and then make it about the other people about serving others instead of making it about yourself and getting in your head
I think to myself if there's one person out there today that I can impact and change their life
Then this is worth going out onto this stage
Not knowing how anyone's gonna respond to me and then let those things lead you and you're gonna make an impact.
Yeah, such a beautiful song. I love you so much. I love you so much it's weird.
I love you too. You're like family to me, my friend.
Before we wrap up, real quickly, rapid fire. One to two Ardentis will have a little fun.
You ready for me?
Born ready.
Favorite movie?
Oh, Say Anything just popped into my head when he holds the freaking boombox over his head. Do you remember this
one? Are you too young for this? Oh my gosh, it's so
incredible. Say anything. Yes, it's such a romantic, beautiful
movie. Interesting. That's later. And I know movies. Well,
yeah, you're younger than me. True. It's old. Okay. Your last
meal on earth would be
something with truffle french fries because I'm a
And I want to eat them all the time, but I don't want to be fat when I grow up
So I'm in a constant battle against eating them
Fries are so good. Okay, very guilty pleasure
Probably watching Kardashians anything Kardashian cuz like I mean, come on, Heather,
like what are you doing?
But no, yeah, I love it.
Okay, fair enough.
Favorite workout.
My favorite workout of all time is running.
I've been a runner my whole life.
However, I've had back issues, knee issues.
Listen, you know.
So I've had to like also adapt, right?
Like I gotta find new things to love.
So I spin a lot now just because it's better for my body,
but yeah, forever I'll be a runner for life.
Love that.
Okay, two more.
Your favorite book, not including one of yours.
I want to still save my own, right?
You know what?
John Gordon's book, The Garden, right?
Isn't that the one you and I talked about?
That one really impacted me in a really beautiful way.
He, and I won't get into the whole thing,
because I know this is rapid fire,
but he kind of gets into the journey and relationship
with God, but in a very different, cool way
that I think, if you're curious about it,
like check it out, it's a super easy read
and it was very helpful to me.
Love it.
And the last one, very, very deep stuff.
Your favorite musician.
Oh my gosh, there's so many, there's so,
I have to say genre, I'm like thug life for life.
Like I didn't choose the thug life.
The thug life chose me, right?
So it's like anything 90s hip hop, but then I love Drake.
I love Jay-Z.
Like I love Kanye.
I know people are hating this right now,
but people want me to love country music and I do not.
I love hip hop life.
I just, I don't know.
I love 90s.
I love hip hop.
That's okay. That's okay.
That's authentic.
Who wants you to love country music?
Oh my gosh, everybody, everyone.
Okay.
All right, fair enough.
Well, as if I could love you anymore.
Thank you so much for stopping by today
and dropping these priceless, juicy nuggets, Heather.
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