Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Ally Love, Founder & CEO of Love Squad, Peloton Instructor, and Host of Brooklyn Nets : The Power To Decide Episode 60
Episode Date: June 23, 2020What if you were faced with a life-threatening accident at the age of nine and was presented by your own mother the opportunity to choose and decide for yourself: fight for your young life or give up ...the painful struggle…the choice was yours. That pivotal moment Ally Love learned the power and necessity of what it means to decide and that even when you choose not to decide, that in itself is a choice with consequences. About The Guest: Ally Love is the Founder & CEO of Love Squad, Peloton Instructor, and Host of Brooklyn Nets. Ally Love is a multifaceted woman, pioneering the slash generation. She is the CEO/Founder of Love Squad, the in-arena Host of the Brooklyn Nets, a Peloton Instructor, an adidas Global Ambassador, and a Model. Ally uses her influence/platforms to create a space to celebrate and champion diversity in race and culture through conversation and sweat.  Known as a Boss of Business, Ally Love’s platform reaches millions, which is why it has been important for her to create Love Squad as a space where real conversations and real change can occur through moderated panels and open discussions around women's empowerment. Finding Ally Love: Visit her website: https://www.allylove.com Join the LOVE SQUAD Twitter & Instagram:@allymisslove Facebook: @allyloveofficial Pinterest: @allymisslove To inquire about my new coaching program opportunity visit https://mentorship.heathermonahan.com/pages/virtual-seminar-information Review this podcast on Apple Podcast using this LINK and when you DM me the screen shot, I buy you my $299 video course as a thank you! My book Confidence Creator is available now! get it right HERE If you are looking for more tips you can download my free E-book at my website and thank you! https://heathermonahan.com *If you'd like to ask a question and be featured during the wrap up segment of Creating Confidence, contact Heather Monahan directly through her website and don’t forget to subscribe to the mailing list so you don’t skip a beat to all things Confidence Creating! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi and welcome back. I so appreciate you being here with me today. Oh my gosh, so much to tell you.
So first I have to tell you about my episode today and my guest
and what happened off air because it was,
this is actually the second time I've cried
in the last year since I've had a podcast.
I'm not a big cryer, early on in business,
when I was early on in my corporate America career
and I was in sales leadership,
I would see people make mistakes, right?
I would see them cry and get frustrated
and wear their emotions on their sleeve.
I started to observe those people would only reach a certain level.
They wouldn't go beyond that level
because their emotions had the better of them.
They didn't have control of their emotions.
So I used to say to myself,
I played baseball as a kid, softball as I got older,
and I've always loved baseball.
And I just used to always say say there is no crying in baseball.
So no matter how upset I would get in corporate America,
which was very freaking upset,
you have no idea the jackballs I worked with,
I would get really, really upset,
and stress was piling on,
and I would go into the ladies room and breathe,
or I'd walk outside,
or I'd go for a ride on my car,
anything to get myself out of the situation,
control and calm myself,
and then reengage when I was in control of my emotions.
So saying that I cried twice,
the first time was when I recorded Flip Flip in,
who I absolutely freaking love.
And if you haven't heard that episode,
go back and listen to it.
It's all about your third story,
the story that you're telling yourself
and how you can change it because it's a lie.
I love that freaking story.
I love that episode.
I love that man.
He's awesome.
So anyhow, that was the first time I cried.
Okay, so fast forward to now.
I found out about Ali Love,
little over a year ago,
is that my friend, Christine, is housed in Atlanta.
She had a peloton.
We didn't have anyone to watch the kid,
so we couldn't go exercise out of the house.
And she said, oh, just go upstairs and do a peloton ride,
which I did.
And she said, take an Ali Love class.
Ali has this real warmth and positive energy
and inclusive message.
She's a black woman.
She's young.
She's gorgeous. But there she's young, she's gorgeous.
But there's something about her that people trust
and are drawn to, and I was, right?
So I didn't have a peloton at the time.
But when the pandemic hit, I ordered a peloton
and the ones and twos and got that thing in here so fast
and had a huge blow up with my building
because I didn't have a reservation for the elevator
and that's policy and the woman downstairs was trying
to forbid the Peloton people to bring the bike in.
I lost my mind, occasionally I do that,
and I called the head of the building and said,
it is a pandemic, and this is life and death situations
and I need some type of exercise while I am quarantined
in my small condo.
And they let it up.
Okay, so that was a good news.
Got the Pelotonin for the win.
And truly during quarantine, when for a couple of months, we weren't able to leave the
house at all.
That was the only exercise I got.
And it was a saving grace for me because it transported me out of here to a different place
where I wasn't alone. I had my son here with me, but I wasn't the only adult and you know, seeing
someone else their face right on my screen talking to me. Oh my gosh, I love that. It was a game
changer lifesaver for me. So I always knew I wanted to have my favorite instructors on the show,
but hadn't I had reached out a few times and hadn't her back like anything. You know, when I hear crickets, I might wait a little bit
but I'm gonna pivot and come back after you. So I came back after Allie Love.
She connected me to the Peloton team. They scheduled her and today we have
on the show. Now that is not why I cried. So I had researched Allie a lot outside
of Peloton. The same way I would any anyone that I interview, I read their books, I listen to their TED Talks,
I, whatever their thing is, I'm all over it for hours and hours to prep and make sure I'm prepared
for the interview. So I just consumed so much of Ali's content. Her TED Talks awesome, it's
really short, seven minutes, it's really good. And she killed it. I went through so many different interviews
that she's done and was just so blown away by her story.
Also, I didn't know she's going to share something really
powerful with us today.
And she only just recently started talking about it
and it's something that happened to her
when she was nine years old.
So she's being very vulnerable.
And I know how scary that can be.
Well, being a white woman that's interviewing a black woman right now in the current situation
in the world, I felt vulnerable. I also felt it was my job and duty to show up and ask her what
her thoughts are, how she's leading, how she's leading as a Peloton instructor,
as a black woman in this environment,
where I didn't know how to word it,
and I really hadn't been thinking about that,
because the more I would think about it, I got scared.
Right? Scared because here's the thing.
People are judging other people.
People are hating on other people.
I've gotten some really nasty messages.
If you don't post something
fast enough, you're wrong. If you post something too fast and didn't do it right, you're wrong.
If you didn't use the right hashtag, you're wrong. If you weren't vocal enough, you're
wrong. And those are the kinds of things that I'm getting. And I know some really large
influencers that have deleted Instagram pages, paused posting because the amount of attack they're getting is massive.
I'm not here to weigh in on if it's warranted
with some of these people.
Listen, if anyone's racist, then I get it.
I do not tolerate racism.
However, there's a lot of hatred out there right now.
There's a lot of attack right now.
And there's a lot of judging.
And frankly, there's a lot of ignorance too.
And that's what my fear was, was that I would be ignorant.
I didn't want to be ignorant.
And that's what I kept thinking about,
is that if I say it the wrong way, I'm ignorant.
If I was afraid, I didn't want to do it wrong.
And I didn't know the right way to do it,
because for me, I haven't done it before.
Up until this point, I've just posted things online.
And every time I post something,
I either get someone hating what I posted
or telling me I could have done it better. You know, it's not right. And so I know
that I'm going to judgements on. And that's, you know, a little uncomfortable, right?
It's a little scary. And this is different because it's live. And there's no editing. And
there's just conversation and two people. And while I follow Ali and know a lot about her
and feel like I know it, it's not like we've ever hung out and, you follow Ali and know a lot about her and feel like I know it's not like
we've ever hung out and you know gone on a trip together. So my vibe is that I really feel she's
so inclusive. So I thought you know what if I'm going to do this is a really good person to do with
because she's she comes from a place of love and I feel like if you come from a place of love there
can't be hate. So I
hadn't thought about it a lot because that's sort of my strategy. I'll share this with you.
When I have a super busy day, which I did today, and I'm back to back all day long, and I
have my son here, and, you know, he's stuck inside all day, and I have to cook for him,
and I have to do all these meetings, or I get to, I should reframe that I get to. I'm so
blessed to have my son and so grateful for that. However, in the olden days, he'd be at camp and I'd take him there at nine and he gets picked up at five
and he plays sports all day and all as well. And I get my job done, but it's different now. So,
everything's different now, right? So anyhow, what I do is I try not to get too focused on the
thing ahead of me. I just focus on the situation I'm in, otherwise I'd get overwhelmed. So that's kind of my strategy. And I wasn't thinking about the complexity of what
my concerns were and that I didn't want to be ignorant and that I didn't want to say the wrong
thing and that my intent is good. And I know my intent is good, but sometimes it doesn't matter,
right, in the world. Sometimes words get twisted or people hear something different or you didn't say something
right and mistakes get made.
And so I was scared.
So we get on the column.
I said to Allie, it's the same thing.
I usually say to most people, I said, is there anything you don't want to talk about today?
Is anything off limits?
And she said, no, I trust you.
And so that made me feel really happy, right?
So I said, okay, all right, great.
So we do the whole
interview, which you're gonna hear in a minute. And if I'd ever stop talking, right? And so at the end, I asked her
about the what I said, I believe I said racial unrest. I think that's the words I use. I don't know. I didn't write anything down.
I didn't, you know, script something out. I'd never script anything out by the way for the show.
I do my work, but I don't believe in scripts.
So I think I said racial unrest.
Now, I was nervous.
I wonder if you'll hear it in my voice.
I'm super interested to hear if you do.
But I also really trust Ali and feel she's inclusive
and feel she comes from a place of love.
So I was willing to take that risk.
And I felt it was the right thing to do.
How could I talk to her and not address this?
That to me is sheepish and there's no place for that.
I would rather have an imperfect conversation
where I mess up some words.
And maybe I don't do things right,
but my intent is right and my heart is good
and I mean for good.
And if people know me and are in a
conversation with me, then that's felt. That's how I led in this uncertain conversation. So I did not
say it correctly. And I knew it once it came out of my mouth. However, I will say this woman handled
herself with extreme poise and explained in a really beautiful way how I could say I'm moving forward.
And she said, you know, it's not racial unrest, it's Black Lives Matter. And you'll hear Ali explain it.
But it wasn't attacking, I wasn't offended. She taught me something, you know,
something really powerful so that I don't have to feel ignorant or uncertain,
moving forward, that I have verbiage and words that I can use that are better, right? That's the
only way we get better sometimes is making mistakes. And I was so grateful she didn't attack me.
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And thank you for explaining it beautifully.
And thank you for being that kind and loving
and inclusive you because I didn't do it right.
Oh gosh, this was so hard for me.
And she just, she was amazing.
She didn't have her camera on, you know so hard for me. And she, you know, she just, she was amazing. She didn't have her
camera on, you know, which I get. Sometimes you don't want to get ready for every show or whatever,
and you have other things going on. That's fine, but she turned her camera on right away,
because I started crying. And she said, listen to me, I am so glad and grateful you did have the
conversation. And she said, the conversation needs to be had.
This is all about having the conversation.
It doesn't have to be the perfect one.
It just has to be had.
That's a start.
That's somewhere to begin.
And I just, I lost it.
I was bawling.
It was very emotional.
I even feel emotional right now explaining it to you because I was scared.
And I'm in uncharted water.
And I, just like all of us are, right?
It's not just me.
It was scary and I didn't want to be ignorant.
That was my big thing.
I didn't want to hurt anyone.
I didn't want to be ignorant.
I didn't want to say the wrong things
when I wanted to say the right things.
And you know what?
I didn't say the right things.
And I still feel really proud that I did it.
And that's because she comforted me.
She, you know, here she is.
She's the one saying, it's okay.
And you know what, and she, she's a true leader.
And she's so freaking young.
I'm just so impressed.
I'm so inspired by her.
She's a total boss.
And I just felt so grateful because ironically,
one of my mentees had sent me an email while
I was doing the interview.
I get off and I go to my email, respond back to people and I see an email from one of my
mentees and it said something to the effect of Heather.
I've got a team meeting tomorrow with all my employees.
You know, he's got a sizable company and he said, we haven't had a team meeting in over
a month and I don't know what to do. Do I bring up the racial situation in the US right now or is it best just not to say
anything?
No one's brought it up to me.
Kind of like sort of how I was sitting there myself before I interviewed Ali.
Like, listen, this is on the table.
I've got to address it, but I don't know the words to say he didn't know the words to
say.
And I was so grateful I just had that conversation because I responded to him, you absolutely have to bring it up. And there aren't
right or perfect words. And you're going to make mistakes, but it's about leading with courage
that you have the right intent. And I explained to him what Ali said to me, I didn't use the right
words, but she was so grateful that I used words.
So an imperfect conversation will always be better than none.
And I feel so good sharing that feedback from her and I felt really good encouraging him
to have the conversation tomorrow, which he is going to.
And I can't wait to hear how imperfectly perfect it goes.
But I'm proud of him for coming from a place of good and not having the answers
and doing it anyway.
So now, turning it over to this interview, which I think is amazing, and I think you're going
to as well.
Hi, and welcome back.
I'm so excited for you to meet my guest today. She's a model. She's a host.
She's a speaker. She's a TEDx speaker, which you know I'm so passionate about. She's a peloton
instructor, a social media influencer, a brand ambassador, and she's CEO and founder of the
Love Squad. Allie, love.
Thank you so much for being here today.
Thank you so much for having me.
Heather, I'm so excited to chat with you.
I'm excited to chat with you too.
There's so much about you, Allie, that to me,
it's so important to amplify your voice
and your message right now.
And really, at the core of that is your inclusivity,
which I feel every class
that I take, whenever I see your social media posts, and I know that you've created this
community that people feel accepted, empowered, and motivated with the message that you have
around positivity and including others. And first, I want to thank you for that because
it's so important right now that everybody hears it.
Oh, thank you.
I tend to get that question interesting enough
is like, how are you the most positive person?
And a short answer, I'm not.
I'm just like everyone else.
And that level of inclusivity is all encompassing
and understanding that we are all maybe different
in regards, but all uniquely the same.
We all want to be better and be better versions of ourselves.
And so I think for me, it's as much as possible,
evening the playing fields and letting everyone know that you're always invited and you always
have a seat at the table I'm sitting at. Well, that's nice to hear because these days,
it doesn't always feel that way. So thank you for putting that out there.
One of the things that I wanted to start with today is when people see you, people
create a story in their mind, right? You know, oh, this woman is so beautiful and she's
so fit and she can do things. Of course, she can be positive. I mean, her life is so perfect.
She's on Good Morning America. She's doing this and that. And as I've researched you and
learned so much about you, I know and I want everyone to know
your life has been faced with incredible challenges,
beginning as early as nine.
And I was hoping you could share with us
that adversity and what you did to overcome it.
Absolutely.
I will preempe this by saying social media
is a really tiny aperture to what real life looks like, right?
It's a curated space.
So is anything that's usually on TV, you have makeup on, you have your best outfit.
All of these things are curated opportunities and not to say that they're not important
because they are.
We use these platforms to share stories, to share information.
But sometimes what ends up happening is that the story gets dismissed a bit and it's
more of the optics.
And so I just want to that preamp what my story I'm about to share with that because I think it's really important
again this concept of being approachable and relatable is really true to who I am.
At nine years old, I got hit by a car.
I was at a family gathering and you know, as a family, we usually on the weekend,
through family barbecues and celebrate and just enjoy each other's time.
And so I was at a family gathering.
I went to the ice cream truck to get some ice cream
like any fun ready to eat ice cream nine year old is.
And then I was walking across the street in a car
which was parked on the side, drove around and hit me.
I ended up flying up in the air,
landing on the hood of the car, rolling to the side.
I broke my left femur.
I cracked a lot of my front teeth, and I skinned my body up.
I had to, I was in the hospital for seven days.
Five of those seven days, I had a weight tied to my ankle
to keep the bone, my femur bone separated.
Because at the age of nine, there was no plate for my hip,
because your femur is basically your hip.
It's the largest bone in your body,
and most times people who break their hips,
they're a little older.
So it was very rare that a nine-year-old
would come into the hospital in an emergency
with a broken hip.
And so that was the case,
and I had to wait for five days
until they created a plate
and then shipped it from China
so that I could have surgery.
And now during this time,
I can tell you it wasn't easy
and I could not imagine what my family was going through
because as an adult now, while I don't have kids,
I do have nieces and nephews,
I can only imagine how challenging, how heart-wrenching,
and how emotional that could be for any parent.
What ended up happening was that experience,
however traumatic it was, was a turning point in my life, even at nine years old.
And I will be transparent, Heather,
and say I haven't actually shared the story quite a bit.
I only recently started talking about it
since we've been in this pandemic.
So the further past two and a half months.
And it's been coming up because while you are in your home
and you're thinking about life or death
because we're hit with COVID-19,
a lot of self-awareness started to really play a role
in the work that I was doing for myself.
And so the story started to really manifest.
And I've talked about it with my mom quite a bit,
but it was this moment where she was saying next
and she had just finished talking to the doctor
and she said, you know, she was honest.
She said, it's not looking good
and you have a decision to make.
Now, the question that she asked me at that time,
I don't know if I'd have the courage
to ask a nine-year-old, let alone a nine-year-old
that was my daughter, but she asked me, she said,
you have a choice, and you can either choose to live.
And if you choose to live, you have to fight.
You have to fight, let messy have to fight hard,
or you can choose to die.
And if you choose to die, we support you.
We know that it's not easy.
And she was like, if you choose life, you have to pray to God and you choose to die. And if you choose to die, we support you. We know that it's not easy. And she was like, if you choose life,
you have to pray to God and you have to fight.
You make that decision and you let us know.
And it was one of those things again,
that was odd as I think about it in the past.
She gave me some time in the hospital.
She went down, took a walk, came back,
and we kind of picked up on the conversation.
And after me praying, I grew up very religious,
my family's religious.
After praying, I let her know, I was like, you know what, I wanna live, I grew up very religious, my family's religious. After praying, I let her know,
I was like, you know what, I want to live, I want to fight.
And it was that opportunity,
that my mom afforded me the responsibility to decide
about my own life, that was a turning point for me.
And I started fighting, and I keep saying this often,
it's like, in that moment of choosing to fight for my life,
I've never stopped.
And it's not like a woe is a neat story, but it was that turning point that said, you know
what I understand what close to death feels like.
I know what it feels like to be in a hospital room for a very long time.
Not sure.
And when you would get out in a sense because we weren't sure when the plate was going
to be finished.
And I know what it feels like to make a decision about yourself.
And so ever since that moment, I sincerely have always decided to decide.
I've never just idly said, you know, I'm not going to make a decision because not
making a decision is making a decision.
And so I've been decisive in where I go knowing that there are consequences on both sides,
but that has played a big role in what my life has ended the path into which I take in over the years.
Wow, I am a mother with a 13 year old and I just, I have so much empathy for all of you,
your entire family going through that. I can't, I can't imagine and so proud of you and
and of your mom. When you got back home, so you, you were not lovable, you're laying in a bed and the rest of
the world went back to regular life, but you didn't get to, right? Not at all. I mean, at that point,
I had a cast that covered my entire stomach all the way down to my foot. So it was a half of a
body cast and I had a hospital bed in my living room. So we had to read, you know, with any child that's injured,
you usually have to make some adjustments to how you're living.
And so we had to make some major adjustments.
I was homeschooled.
I had physical therapy once the cast,
the cast had to come off in parts.
That's how big it was.
So, you know, it was like having this part,
the entire cast on for six weeks,
and then having a quarter of the, you know,
a bit mover move around the ankle,
and then at the knee, and then at the waist. And so it was one of the, you know, of it move around the ankle and then at the knee
and then at the waist.
And so it was one of those things where I probably had
a cast for about five months on,
but it was removed in parts.
And during that time, I can say that it definitely tested
my relationship with my mom because I was going through
a lot of pain and she was there with me
while I was home school and going to physical therapy.
But it was one of those times
where it really was again,
not only a turning point in me
deciding around my life,
but it was a turning point in
solidifying a solid foundation
between my mother and I.
And it's not easy, as you say,
you have a 13-year-old when you get
to pre-teens, it gets even harder
emotionally and then teens. And so I think we the preteen teen emotions
old because I was in the h
outside to get some sun. We
our backyard and it was a
sweating and I would be an had a lot of the tough con
obviously she's my mom and put us in a great place to become close friends. Obviously, she's my mom and her family, but it's put us in position even to this day to become the closest of friends.
You know, I was watching an interview that you did recently and hearing you
describe looking out the window and watching other kids go to school,
watching them come home from school, watching them live their lives while
you were stuck in the house
with your mother not having the most enjoyable time.
And, you know, listening to you talk about that
really related to me around the pandemic,
around quarantine and how many of us feel looking out a window.
I happen to live in a building.
So going out of the building often has not been part of the program while we're in the quarantine because, you know, I happen to live in a building. So going out of the building often has not been part
of the program while we're in the quarantine because, you know, you run into people in
the halls and in your building. And I just, I really related to that feeling that you
would have looking outside the window and re-evaluating when this is over what different
changes will I make. Was that part of the way that you were thinking is how can I re-engage
when this is over? It was almost as if you're acknowledging you're witnessing everyone move about
and you're static and you feel like you're not doing enough, even as a young kid, you're not playing
enough, you're not going to school, you know, you're just not doing enough. And it's, it put me in a
position where I started feeling like, yeah, I had a phone a lot.
If you're missing out, I was missing out on so much.
But it did help put in perspective,
don't take things for granted.
And the same thing with quarantine, often enough,
and interesting that you bring this up,
we had a big, in our four year,
we had a big window that looked out, yes,
into our front yard, and in our front yard,
it was a far away, away was like a sidewalk.
And so I'd see everyone going to school in the morning
and I'd stand there in that window.
And it just reminded me never to take anything for granted.
And that was one of the reasons why I ended up becoming a dancer
because the doctor after physical therapy, let my mom know,
you know, manager expectations.
She may walk with a limp.
She probably will have arthritis when she's in high school.
And she'll probably never become a runner or be very athletic.
So manager expectations.
And so knowing this information and actually going through this every day
why it's same in front of this window and see life happening before me,
I decided that wasn't going to take anything for granted and anyone
to decide who and what I could do, but me and God.
And so I decided, yeah, I'm going to start running.
I'm going to start walking, I'm going to start dancing.
So I started doing these things and really learning how
to do them.
And eventually I became a dancer.
That's why I moved to New York cities
is to pursue dance.
And when I came to New York city, I
end up going to, I got a scholarship to go to Fordham
University and get a bachelor's and fine arts
through the Alvin Ailey program and minor in theology.
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And still during that time in college,
we used to have Florida's Silling Lindo's.
I would stand in my dorm room and look outside
and watch how busy New York was,
and it would be a moment of nostalgia,
and of course, like a moment of being grateful
and pretty cathartic in a way of acknowledging
that I wouldn't take this for granted.
I wouldn't take the fact that I was able
to move away from home,
go to school, use my body at that point to really convey messages
in a big city that I always loved.
As I'm talking to you right now, exactly what I,
we're talking about is what I'm doing.
I literally sit in front of the windows of my apartment
while we have been in pandemic,
and I have calls, I have meetings,
and I look out of the window at everything that's going on.
It's just a great reminder, again, not to take things for granted.
It really, it truly is, and it is a challenge,
sometimes not to have that full mode
of what is going on out there, but to refocus it to,
we have so much to be grateful for, regardless of wherever we are right now.
So I appreciate that perspective.
From deciding to become a dancer
and overcoming all of these odds,
how does your trajectory change and evolved?
It's such a non-traditional path.
And that interests me because it isn't simplistic
or it doesn't seem like it would be simplistic to go from
all the challenges you had to a dancer,
to a host in the NBA, to a Peloton instructor,
to a business owner, to someone teaching others
how to build businesses.
How does all of that unfold?
Did you ever know it was unfolding?
Short answer no.
But longer answer, it end up unfolding in one specific way.
I always say that you find your career one of two ways.
Either you know and send your kid that you're going to do
this and nothing has deterred
you from that path. Or you
lean into people telling you
what you're good at. And so
I knew that I could do a lot
more than dance and the
reality to be completely
candid with everyone who's
listening. Many of us know
what it means to either
graduate high school or
college or just venture out
into adulthood and you have
to make a decision.
You have to either follow a love, a pursuit, or a passion,
or you got to make money to survive.
And what I was at the point of my senior years,
I started working with companies.
I got forward at the opportunity to go to San Francisco
in Canada and work with these professional companies.
What I realized is that I wouldn't be able to sustain
or forward living in New York once I graduated.
And I didn't want to quote unquote become a starving artist.
And the reason is because honestly,
my family wouldn't be able to bail me out or help me.
So I didn't have any cushion.
And so what ended up happening was around my senior year,
I decided to go in to become a model.
I was like, what are my other assets that I could use
and for lack of a better word exploit in a way to make sure that I am using every talent God has given me. I remember
my mom telling me this story and I'm going to butcher it in the Bible of just like, you
know, this man was given one talent. He buried it. This man was given two talents. He used
it and multiplies. This man was given, you know, whatever talents. And it's like the more
of that story of being given talents is that if you hide your talents,
then they die. They fall away. But if you utilize them, they grow. They multiply. And so I knew that
that was a possibility. If I could defy almost dying and coming out to be a dancer and move to the
best city in, I would say this is a personal opinion of the best city in the world, one of the best
cities in the world, New York, and pursue that passion. I knew that I could use and leverage other skill sets. There was more that I could offer. And so I started
modeling, which put me in a position financially to be able to afford a house with an apartment
with one roommate instead of three. And then from modeling, I knew I saw that there were
girls that were a little older than me, but similar hosting, they were doing, you know, New York
one and the taxi cabs and all of these things. And I was like, wait a minute, how did she get there? And I started doing research. And
I have always been curious around how did someone get to the
place that they are not to say I should have everything, but
also to identify what are my strong points. And at a young
age, I knew in college what my strengths were. I knew that I
was a good dancer, I knew that I was a great performer. And
most importantly, one of the things that I knew it was great
at most importantly, and that I loved doing was talking to people.
I could talk all day to everybody.
I loved it.
And New York, everyone has so many interesting stories.
And so that's when I started taking classes.
I leaned into, even with anything, I always say, lean into resources to figure out what
you don't know.
So that's what I did.
I started taking hosting classes.
And I started going on, I started, you know, Googling New York hosting auditions
Anything until I got an agent and I was signed with Willemina modeling and then I started doing hosting and so I really really for the lack of a better word
Or maybe more or not not a lack of a better word, but for the word we're commonly hearing these days. I hustled hard
Right, I was it was my and in my own words I bossed up
It was me just again leveraging those skill sets
and those passions to put me in a position
where I could afford living in New York.
I was safe.
I was in a position where I want it more
and I could figure out how to do that.
And I think that that's what my family wanted as well.
My mom was like, you can stay there,
but we gotta make sure you're okay.
And so that was the agreement that we had
and it ended up working out.
So it's such a non-traditional,
non-conventional path that you follow.
Where does that motivation and that boss up come from?
So many people would have stopped with, okay,
I become a dancer, I become a model,
I become a speaker and a host.
So many people would plateau there and be just fine with that.
How and why did you add a TED Talk to it?
Become a Peloton instructor, start working with brands.
Where does that push come from?
So it's actually the story of Love Squad.
It's of all of this, and I know those of you that are listening,
this sounds so, it might sound so good to you, but it comes with a lot of nose.
It came with a lot of nose, and it definitely came with a lot of heartache and, quote, unquote,
failure, right?
These things, these lessons.
But it was one of the reasons why I bossed up or hustle hard or any tagline or any quotable
message you want to put in front of that is because it was basically out of frustration
and a lack of resources as a young woman,
as a young mixed woman, as a black woman,
in New York City, it's not easy.
You know, it's not easy wanting to make more of yourself,
especially when you don't have a clear path.
I think I look at my life kind of like
Hal Sherel-Sanberg talks about moving around in a company in her book
Lean In. It's a jungle jungle gym. It's not just vertical.
You know, it's a jungle gym that you're moving. And that's kind
of how I look at my career being a part of this slash generation.
People are dynamic women are dynamic. We are dynamic. And we're
multi-dimensional, multi-faceted. And it's one of those things
to say you have more than one passion most times. have more than one skill set you can offer and so I
wanted to make sure that I was going down the right path and the only way to do
that was to pursue these areas that I was curious about and so in those moments
of hard times in this concept of an unconventional career path this
frustration and lack of resources didn't always afford me the
opportunity to be in rooms where decisions were being made, or to be in places
where I could network and find my fairy god mentor mother or whatever. Like I wasn't
able to do those things and so what I decided to do once I got a little older
past 21 was offer the information back. I know and I come back to what I said to
you Heather when we first started talking,
is there is no difference between me and anyone that's listening.
No matter how old you are, how young you are, where you live.
In terms of what we desire for ourselves and for our family,
we are all uniquely different.
I do identify that.
I would be remiss if we didn't say that,
but we are all uniquely the same
in wanting to be a better versions of ourselves
or be our best selves or continue to help be a citizen of our community and continue to do things
fairly and just and equally.
And those are all of our desires for the most part.
And so knowing that I did want any, if I got to, you know, from point A to point B and
it took me three hours and I can offer insight to someone who is either a rat curious to
get from point A to point B, I can offer them to someone who is either a rat curious to get from point
eight to point B, I can offer them insight that will shorten that time and they get there
in 90 minutes.
Why wouldn't I do that?
And so that's when I created Love Squad.
I was like, you know, all the information that I, it may not be much, but everything that
I know right now or have learned, I'd love to share with someone so they have to get
frustrated or they don't have to pay for it.
Knowledge is very expensive. Information is expensive. And so I created
Lesquad out of again a shared frustration and lack of resources to say,
hey, everyone come out. It was like, it started as a website. A deedist found
the website. It was really crappy website to be completely transparent. A
deedist found it asked if I would create some content for their site. I was
definitely emailed back like I think you got the wrong person because this is not
good stuff.
And they were like, no, we want you to create some content.
And from there, I decided to continue pursuing this quote unquote blog that I had.
And it was about the time I was talking to a friend and she's like, you need to invite
people out.
And at this time, I only had about 3,000 followers on my Instagram and I had, and
not to say that wasn't a lot. I mean, that's still a lot of people following you. So I was
very grateful, but I'm not sure all those people are interested in meeting me. At this
point, I think I was hosting for the Brooklynettes and I decided to do a little event, partner
with the space in New York City, and invite anyone who wanted to come out. It was going
to be a free event, 50 spots, because you know New York, we don't have that much space.
50 spots.
And what ended up happening, which was the aha moment
around Los Guad is what ended up happening was I opened the evite.
And within 15 seconds, 50 spots were taken.
And 75 people were on the wait list.
And now this event was going to encompass a workout
and then a panel discussion between me and one of my friends.
I invited my friend.
I was like, girl, can you work for me for free?
And she said, yes, she's great.
And so it was basically the conversation part that people started sticking around for.
I just shared information on how I built a website, how I started building a brand where
love squad came from, how I auditioned, just offering some simple tricks and tips to help
the community.
And from there, I just decided to continue to pursue that.
So I guess, again, long answer to your question
is unconventional, absolutely.
But frustration and lack of resources
really were my driving points to say, I think I'm worth it.
And I think I could do it.
And I want to do this for my family.
And so that's what I'm doing.
It's amazing.
And I love the analogy of the jungle gym
because from myself being in corporate America
for 20 plus years, I always thought careers were so linear.
And it was just supposed to be that way.
I don't even know if anyone ever verbalized that to me
or that's just what I saw or understood.
But this idea that you had to be in one lane
and there was a goal at the end of the lane.
And I just love this idea
of busting up the lanes and taking your talents wherever they go. Have you ever felt through any of
these journeys as you move to different role or added or leverage your talents for a new opportunity?
Oh, this one's just not a right fit for me. Oh, I'm not good at this one. I'm going to pivot and dump
that one and step away from it. I think that when it ended up happening is like,
you kinda make those tough decisions that you do have to leave.
So I remember being a Nick City dancer
and I had been a Nick City dancer for three seasons.
And I had a conversation with my boyfriend,
and we used to my boyfriend now,
and we were talking about should I stay a fourth season?
So if I stay being a Nick City dancer was affording me
the visibility, I love being a part of the team.
This was my entry point to the NBA
because right after this,
I started hosting for the net.
And so we talked about progress.
Identifying what progress looks like to you as an individual
is really what drives this decision of leaving
or moving on or making a change.
And so he asked me what progress look like
and I told him and he said,
do you think that that can happen
where you are in terms of being on the team?
And I said it was highly unlikely.
And so he said, well, that drives your decision.
It seems like you should leave.
And it was very uncomfortable because I was like,
okay, this makes sense,
but it just doesn't feel good.
Like no one wants to leave.
And at that time, I didn't have anything lined up, right?
Like I was like, oh, okay, I'm just gonna leave this job.
And so I ended really trusting him
and in terms of like his feedback.
And I left.
And what ended up happening was it actually shaped
my adult career in a sense.
I spent three months at home quite a bit.
And instead of, I realized there was a difference
between being busy and being productive in this three months.
Being busy is like, yeah, my Instagram story's lit, but I haven't done anything to add value to my long-term goal,
or even to figure out what that long-term goal was, or even short-term goal. And so, I had a lot of,
again, a create that self-awareness, that self-discovery started to happen, and I end up
just started hosting. That's when I started taking hosting classes. That was the time I said,
you know what? Let me explore this. I started by doing on-camera work.
I was like, let me just go take a class,
see how to get better on camera
because I'm going on castings with my modeling agency
that were for commercials and I had no clue.
And again, all this may sound glamorous,
but when you're getting a no every time you go
to a commercial casting, you're like, yeah, well,
maybe this is telling me I don't got it.
I don't have it.
But the reality was,
it's not that I wasn't good enough.
It's just that I wasn't prepared.
I wasn't at that point.
And so using those three months,
I started taking classes really going in for it.
And honestly, what ended up happening,
I sent an email out to all the people that were in my Gmail account
at that time.
And I said, I am a host.
I called myself a host, no one did,
but I did after taking like three months of classes. And I am a host. I called myself a host, no one did, but I did. After taking like, you know, three months of classes
and I will host your kids, baby birthday party,
your baby shower, your chair,
I will host for free for experience.
And it was literally at this point, Heather,
that one of my friends who worked for the Brooklyn Nets,
they had just moved to Brooklyn, she was like,
hey, you've been a part of the NBA,
maybe you could be our host.
And I came in for an interview and I was super honest.
I was like, hey, no skills here.
I do know how the NBA works.
And I know what the court, I know the game.
I know basketball.
And it ended up happening where they offered me the job.
And if I had it, had that conversation with my boyfriend,
Andrew, at the time of making the decision,
it wasn't me just on a whim saying, I'm done with this.
Or it doesn't make me feel good.
No, it was literally like,
what does progress, identify what progress looks like for you? Is that allowed in the space that
you're in at the company that you're in? Is it opportunity? If it's not, then that kind of answers
your question. And it makes you make those tough decisions. So that was a story that highlights,
I had to make that decision. It was uncomfortable. I probably felt like I wasn't ready, but I did it, and it led me to,
now I've been a host of the Brooklynettes for seven seasons.
It's one of the best jobs that I have ever had.
It's an organization that I love.
I've grown them.
I mean, I have learned things
that I don't think I could ever learn
because in hosting, you got to do it in real time.
You're so good at it, too.
You're real and everything.
I looked at it.
It's really very impressive.
And I appreciate that you invested in yourself and took the
classes. You put the time and you offered your services for free at first. I
think a lot of people want to leapfrog that window and not do it. And that's
where the hard work and experience comes from. I also love that you
called yourself a host before anyone else called you one. That resonates with
me so much. I remember
when I got fired and left corporate America, I would say, oh, I got fired. I got fired. I
don't know what I'm going to do. When I was already writing a book, I was already new. I was going
to work for myself, but to make that leap and start saying to people, oh, I work for myself, I'm an
entrepreneur. I'm an author to actually put it out to the world
with super, super scary.
So I'm so proud of you that you did that before.
Anyone called you host, you called yourself
when I seriously applaud that,
because I believe when you do put things out to the universe,
you will start connecting dots and opportunities
will start lining up for you.
So that was brilliant that you did that.
So from there, and you brought this up
when you were just sharing that
story, we're talking about the
importance of these bigger
picture goals. What does that
look like for you right now?
What are those grandiose goals
for you?
I actually never put too much
pressure on myself to figure
that out or have that answer
right away.
Like many of us, we're in a
position where if we try to map
out what the next 10 years looks like,
we'd probably fail because we never know we'd be here. What we had mapped out for 2020 did not look
like this. That is probably a unanimous quote for everyone where you're just like, I didn't expect
it to look like this. So for me, what I end up doing is a short-term goal. I know that I continue,
I want to continue on the paths that I'm in. I love think of Peloton and Shterm goal. I know that I continue, I want to continue on the paths
that I'm in.
I love being a Peloton instructor.
I love our community.
I love being able, and that also, too, didn't come.
That wasn't something that I thought I'd be either.
I never wanted to be an instructor
because I didn't think that I was going to ever be good
at that or that I had anything to offer in that area.
So that's what I mean is that even becoming a Pelotonin
structure, if I had put myself in a position
when I became the host of the Brooklynettes,
to look at five years, set a five year goal,
and a 10 year goal, I would have sold myself short
because one of the best things that had ever happened to me
was becoming a Pelotonin structure.
So for me right now, I say true to that.
I think I do wanna stay in the lane of live on camera,
scripted on scripted TV.
I love motivational positivity.
I love how-tos because again, if I can get you
from point A to point B, it took me three hours,
but it only takes you 90 minutes.
I want to be able to offer that.
Or at least, connect the dots to someone
who can get you that information.
So be a conduit through the conversation for that.
I know that again again these are the things
that I'd love to do, what they will look like in the next five years, 10 years, I don't know because
technology is moving faster than my mind. And so I want to be, as I always say, don't be flexible,
be fluid because flexibility has a breaking point. I want to be as fluid and my abilities to think
beyond what is right now, but also I want to be pretty diligent
in what I have going on.
So I'm dedicated to love squad, to hosting for the Brooklynettes, Deedas Global Ambassador,
being a Peloton instructor.
As I continue to pursue those fields because I can identify progress in all of those areas,
I just know it'll lead me to that point of, okay, if there is a next move that I need to
make in the next couple years,
it will come through my curiosity and diligence for working really hard in those areas, because
they have great, again, great exposure, great platforms, and I can identify progress.
So you bring up Peloton, and that's actually how I found you a little over a year ago. I didn't
have a Peloton at the time, and I was at a girlfriend's house staying at our house with her family in Atlanta.
And we wanted to work out.
And there wasn't anyone to watch the kids.
And she said, just go upstairs and ride the peloton.
And I said, well, who do I take for a class?
She said, well, Ali, love.
And yeah, she's a huge fan and still is.
And so that was my first experience with peloton.
What was interesting is fast forward months.
I always took classes in a location.
I love being around people and I love the energy
of leaving my home and working out somewhere.
This is pre-pandemic, obviously.
When I was seeing the news the first week of March
and seeing that there was a potential
that we were gonna be hit with this pandemic,
I got online and I bought my Peloton with a rushed delivery
and it literally came four days before we were put on quarantine.
That bike, I have to tell you,
that bike you, Alex, Cody, I mean, you guys saved me.
It is unbelievable how that bike and the community,
the high fives, the music, the messaging that
you give and share in your rides, how uplifting that was.
I wonder for you, being on the other end, being responsible and in the leadership role,
knowing so many people are tuning into you as a lifeline stuck at home.
What was that experience like for you?
Well, first I wanna say thank you so much to your friend
for suggesting me, I appreciate it.
It never gets old.
And thank you.
I mean, on behalf of my colleagues,
we have definitely the best instructors in the world.
And I always say it's because of their level of humanity
that just sets them apart of love, love, love,
my fellow instructors.
But in terms of now being at home,
what ended up happening was with the pandemic
and everything happening with COVID,
we end up teaching from home.
Many of us, Peloton, I will say our production texts
have some magic in their fingertips
where as to quote Jen Sherman,
I like open my door and there was a production studio
right out in front of my door.
They packaged everything up, sent it to some of our homes who had the space and we were able to set up a studio and be able to stream content live from home.
And I think one of our members made a really good statement.
They're like, are you really socially distancing and if so, how are you doing it because you usually have 25,000 people live in your living room.
And I thought that was so funny and I thought it was a clear kind of like a picture
of what's going on, but Pelotite is uniquely positioned
in the intersectionality of media, of technology,
of fitness, and the real, I say, engine for us
is our community, is our humanity.
Is the fact that we understand that while we didn't know,
I mean, I didn't know exactly what a pandemic felt like.
This is the first of my lifetime.
I didn't know what to expect.
I didn't know what to do and do it correctly.
But I did the best that I could.
And with that being said,
it's like to continue to stay connected on social,
on Facebook, taking rides, swarming, being able to,
I also, just like you, Heather,
I end up getting a bike right at the top of pandemic
so that I could engage with our community.
So I can hop on in my living room and take a ride.
And many of you are like,
Ali, why didn't you have a bike already?
Aren't you an instructor?
Let me put it this way.
I was very close, I am very close to the studio.
So if I wanted to ride, I can do that.
I'm also not always like, once I bring work home,
I'm on it all the time, which was my fear,
but it's a reality now, which I love
because I'm not in the studio as much.
So no, I didn't have a bike because there were bikes
at our studio in our locker rooms
that we could utilize.
So I got my riding in.
But becoming a home rider at the top of the pandemic,
I was able to swim.
I still ride at 6am with my 6am hit us on a Tabata ride.
We pick a ride.
I post it on my stories.
I get about 200 people that will swarm in the mornings,
Tuesday at 6am, even though there's nothing on the schedule.
And we'll take the same ride from five months ago.
And so I will say, it has been a life changer for me,
not only just as an instructor, but recently as a home writer,
being able to transition and offer new content to our members because they are handling
life just as much as we are.
You know how it feels to hop on that bike and say, all right, I kind of, you know, I'm frustrated
today, I'm confused.
There's a level of uncertainty.
I'm anxious.
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It's also more intimate, right,
when you're as a writer,
because I can see your love artwork behind you
when you're writing and talking to us,
and you feel literally we're in your home and that connection I think solidifies community and
intimacy and a time when people are feeling alone. One of the things that I've
got to ask you about and it's interesting because I do take out Cody and your
rides those are my three instructors that I follow.
You know and you each handle this differently. And I'm curious from a leadership standpoint,
because I see each one of you as leaders for your communities.
As the racial unrest has accelerated,
become the protesting, the rioting,
there's so much angst, fear, unknown right now
throughout our entire world,
not just our country as we're seeing this unfold.
How is it that you decided to approach this or not approach this to talk about it or not talk about
how has that process been for you because just being on the outside, I assume that it must be
challenging or the messages that you get from people, what is that process been like for you?
For this is a turning point for Black Lives Matter
in terms of it's been in my own for seven years,
and this is not the first time this situation has happened.
But when you talk about this racial unrest that's accelerated,
I think it's just more of it being, again,
I kind of always use the word a turning point.
It's been recognized largely.
And I can't speak in terms of for my other instructors
or fellow instructors, but what I can say is that for me,
I talk about bringing your whole stuff to the bike.
I talk about bringing your whole self to work.
It's something that our company has really encouraged.
It is one of the best companies,
if you're not the best company that I've ever worked for.
And in any place that we talk about in a love squad, in any place you go, you want to feel like you belong there.
And you want to feel like you can bring your whole self there and that you can be your authentic self.
And so I don't think that the expectation was set, that anything otherwise was going to happen at any point, no matter what's going on,
when we get on the bike or on the mat.
And so in terms of how I handled it, I know for me,
it still is an emotional process.
But most importantly, it is a learning experience
in the sense of leaning into resources,
really leaning into listening and learning,
even as a black woman, of what is going on,
what's the history, how do we speak about this,
what are people going through?
And again, the upside of our community
is that we are in contact.
People will hop on when I'm on Instagram live
and ask questions or slide in my DMs.
And now with that being said,
not every question is gonna feel good.
And that is okay.
That's what creates dialogue.
And not to say I engage with every single DM
or every single question, but I'm aware my ears to the street because my community is a part of me.
And in order to cultivate and really truly be a part of a community, we have to listen to each other.
We have to know, we have to at least have a pulse of what's going on.
And so again, I took the opportunity to download Audible Books and I started doing,
I do endurance training on the bike. So on my
Saturdays when I'm riding for two hours doing endurance training, I put on my audible book and I
listen. I listen to those that are experts in anti-racism, understanding what key words means when
we're talking about racism in general. How is it different from discrimination and prejudice?
Being able to articulate how I feel because as much as I've gone through personal circumstances,
there are many times I didn't have the right words to express what happened to me or how I felt
about those things. And so again, I had leaned into resources. I continue to do so right now reading
audible books, podcasts, and then open up dialogue with my family, with my fellow instructors,
with my friends. They are my friends as well. And I think that
that was the way that it has helped me and continues to help me to
understand what is my message when I get on that bike. Because I don't want
to ever go anywhere and speak and not be aware or intentionally pretend
I'm unaware what the emotions of the people around we are going through.
And so when I do my Sundays with love,
when we talk about a virtue of courage,
or we talk about temperance, or we talk about friendship,
I don't talk about all the positive things
because we can identify the positive things,
the things that we're going through
are they're not so positive things.
The things that we have this unrest with
are the not so positive things.
And it's the things that we want to learn how to work through.
And we want to learn that we're not alone.
And we want to learn that we aren't in the dark.
And so it's this concept of either right now
as we're in this turning point.
And I get on a bike and whether it's a pop ride
or intervals and arms ride or Sundays with love or feel good ride.
It's me recognizing and highlighting that
while we may feel a certain high level of uncertainty, why we may feel
anxious, why we may feel overwhelmed, why we may feel that we don't know what to say,
or that we don't want to say the wrong things, but we don't want to be silent.
I always talk about leaning into the resources and the voices that are in the know,
but also this concept of, if you feel like you're in the dark because of those things,
all I want you to imagine is that if you turned on the light in this dark room that you're in, the reality of
the situation is that there will be people standing shoulder to shoulder with you because you're not
alone in this discomfort. You're not alone in your uncertainty. You're not alone in this
turmoil that you're going through in this emotional space that you're in. And while I emotions and
our stories may be different and uniquely ours, you are not alone in the fact that you're going through in this emotional space that you're in. And while I emotions and our stories may be different and uniquely ours,
you are not alone in the fact that you still have to confront those things
and deal with those things.
And so to get to get all that wrapped up in a nice bow is that,
at any time you get me on the bike, the point is for me to be a real person.
I'm going to give you a great workout and I'm going to motivate you,
but I'm also a real person. And not that I say, I'm going to be the most preachy person all the time and give you a sermon
on the bike, but it's just an understanding like bringing my whole self to that bike and to the
mat is really important. And I want to be my true self. I want to be I want to be me in any space.
And so that was the decision that I made for many years is that what makes me feel good is when I'm myself
and I'm my most kind self and my most honest self, transparent self. And that's what I remind myself
about before I get on that bike and clip in. That was so beautifully said. So I say thank you and
thank you for explaining that because you made the point that we're not alone and I've always felt that through your rides, through your messaging, and it's just more important now than ever. So if people are not following yet, Ali, where can they find you? my website and then I would encourage any of you that are looking for what we've been doing
we've been a conduit for resources around Black Lives Matter around COVID around business,
well being a woman, but love squad love squad on Instagram is at love squad and then sign up for
the newsletter. Those are always really educational and informative and leading you to resources that
can potentially be catalyst for change for you, but that's love squad.com. Thank you so much for your
time today. Thank you for including us in your community
and thank you for your message and for your teachings.
I am already following you.
Everybody, I'm encouraging you to follow Allie Tews.
She's got the best, most positive message out there.
Thank you, Allie, for being here.
Thank you, Heather.
This was incredible.
Thank you to everyone who took the time to listen to the end.
I'm sending you all love and light.
Thank you again, Heather.
Well, tight will be right back. I ask you to try to the end. I'm sending you all love and like thank you again Heather. Well tight we'll be right back. I hope you love meeting Ali love as much as I love meeting her
and spending time with her. Drops a major wisdom again such a young powerful woman which makes me
so excited for the future. Inclusive and love is where it's at and I'm all in.
So, okay, a few things.
One, I wanted to respond to a question
that was sentenced me, so here we go.
Hey Heather, heard you on podcast, mom's moving on.
I'm currently married with a 10-month-old little girl.
My husband and I have been fighting, PS, by the way,
everyone in the world is fighting during quarantine.
The pressure on everyone is
excessive. About a month or maybe a little or a month ago, I had James Sexton on, who's a famous
New York divorce attorney, and he called this out that there would be more divorces than we've
ever seen in the history of our country once quarantine ends. And it's just everyone's routine
was upset. Everyone's there was uncertainty everywhere. There's financial uncertainty.
There's unrest with children and responsibility.
There's so much going on for everyone.
So I just hope everyone cuts himself a break.
And so, you know, today my son,
sat in his room all day long,
and I felt terrible about it,
but I have to cut myself a break too.
And I have a job to do as well.
And, you know, it's easy in these moments to get
down on things and we've just got to be kind to ourselves. Okay, so I feel he doesn't listen to me
and I feel we're headed for divorce. At times, I find myself having thoughts like, would I divorce him
if I knew I could get full custody? I'm curious how you knew it was time to get a divorce
or if you have any advice. So here's the thing, oh my gosh, I was crystal clear when it was time to get a divorce.
I remember thinking I could kill that man. I was so angry at him.
It was, I thought I could throw a chair at him. I literally thought I might throw something at him.
That's how angry, a level of anger I didn't even know existed inside me.
That's how mad I was when I finally,
that was my final straw.
I'll never forget, oh my gosh, I was livin'.
So you hit a breaking point, I think.
I mean, listen, everybody's different, right?
But for me, it was clear.
I just, the one question I asked myself was,
would you rather be with him unhappily married
or be willing to be single with a small child, which one.
And I really thought it through,
because some people leave to be with someone else.
That's, in my opinion, not the right answer.
That's a recipe for disaster.
But if you can do it and just be on your own,
would you be happier?
And when I played it out my mind, I was, yeah, I would.
I wouldn't be let down all the time.
I wouldn't be arguing all the time. I'd have energy back. I wouldn't be let down all the time. I wouldn't be arguing all the time.
I'd have energy back.
I wouldn't have this negative pull on me
that I wasn't happy with something
and I was just letting it linger.
So I kind of likened that back to firing your villains
to create confidence.
And I'm not saying that he was a villain.
I'm saying in that situation, for me,
it was like this pulling negative na on me.
And when you get rid of that,
you set yourself up for further
success because you put positive energy back into your life. You eliminate negative energy.
You eliminate fighting all these negative emotions and feelings that really begin to consume
you. So for me, it was crystal clear. And I'd ask yourself that question. Listen, we might
have other people in our ear. We might have your mother might be saying, don't get a divorce,
don't get a divorce. You really got to tune out other people and our ear. We might have your mother might be saying, don't get a divorce, don't get a divorce.
You really got to tune out other people and listen to yourself.
Listen to your instinct.
Listen to your intuition.
Journal.
That's another great way to start to hear your inner voice.
You have the answer inside you.
You already know what the answer is.
And frankly, if you're reaching out to me, I'm pretty clear what the answer is.
It's funny.
People reach out to me when they want the aggressive kick in the pants.
I know that, it happens all the time.
I get people message me,
should I leave my job if ABC and D?
Well, let me tell you something.
If you are reaching out to me,
you probably are looking for that push,
so why don't you go ahead and do it, right?
So that's the indicator to me,
the fact that she reached out to me,
probably says that she should do it,
but she needs to answer that question for herself.
I cannot tell her what to do and no one else can.
She will know the right thing to do.
She will listen to herself and answer this question for herself.
I remember when I was younger, a therapist would say,
that's me and I'd get so mad.
I'd be like, no, you just tell me.
Tell me what to do. It's so much easier.
But you have to take responsibility when it's your own decisions, right?
That's why it is harder.
But the more you do that, the more you step into owning your voice, the more you step into
listening to your own voice and acting on your intuition, the happier your life will become.
It's the things we don't want to look at that we don't want to see, that we don't want
to deal with, that we want to ignore, that really start to weigh us down.
So shed those things, just like we shed the virus and move on.
Okay, the other thing I really wanted to get into
is one of my mentees had an interesting challenge
that I wanna share with everyone.
Back when I was in corporate America,
I was in beyond so many BS meetings
that were ridiculous and oftentimes,
you'd be dealing with peers and they'd be responsible
for work and they'd be responsible for work
and they're not hitting their deadlines
and it affects you and you can't get your job done
when everybody else isn't.
And the leader at the table isn't leading, right?
They're not holding anyone accountable
and you're getting frustrated, but you have to be PC
and you have to smile and you can't call the leader
at the table what you wanna want to call them, useless.
Right, so there's this whole facade in dance
that goes on in corporate America,
which frankly, I do not miss,
but so many of us are in it, right?
So one of my mentees is needy-pinit.
Senior-level executive, major company,
but she's with a lot of peers and a leader who's not leading.
And they have these meetings where they get clear on the outcome,
but it's not clear what the deadlines are,
what the workflow process is, who's responsible for what,
and there's no follow-up email.
So when she explains to me the challenge she was facing,
she doesn't want to appear a bitch, right?
You know, she doesn't want to be nagging everyone.
So I had a couple of ideas for her.
One is to ask for help,
because I think that's a really kind way to approach a situation
and most people want to help one another.
So you can always reach back out to the quote unquote, per 10 liter and say, I need your
help.
We left the meeting and I'm crystal clear on the outcome.
Thank you so much for that direction.
However, I'm not clear on this.
Can you tell me who's responsible for ABC and when that deadline is?
You know, so approaching in a more gentle asking for help, way is a safe way to
be PC yet accomplish her goal. Another way that I like to do it is she was saying,
you know, I need to get this information and report from my peer. We're equals.
I can't tell him what to do. I can't tell him a deadline and the leader is not doing it. I would reach out.
I said with the headline or beginning of your email saying, I'm confused. I'm confused.
I'm not able to get my work done if I can't get access to your reports. Do you have any
direction around when your team's pulling those reports together or when you can get them done?
I just want you and I to both look great going into this meeting.
How can we both come out on top, you know, can you give me some feedback?
So I love leading with I'm confused because it's not like you're blaming someone
but you need some insight into what's going on and then the other thing is aligning yourself with them, right?
I want us both to look great in the meeting.
And in order for you know, you and I are in this together.
And as you know, we need to rely on one another's information and reports
so that we can both do our part.
I can promise to get this to you by X, what date works for you.
You know, to be more collaborative is another way that you can achieve your goal
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