Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Bonus - Sneak Peek of 22 Hours: An American Nightmare Episode 6

Episode Date: June 13, 2019

It’s a case nightmares are made of. We’ve got your sneak peek into the new true-crime series, 22 Hours: An American Nightmare along with an interview with WTOP reporters Jack Moore and Megan Clohe...rty. It's the frightening story of a D.C. power couple, their 10-year-old son, and housekeeper who were held hostage, tortured, and brutally murdered inside their burning D.C. mansion. You won’t believe what happened during those last 22 hours alive, and the shocking trail of evidence that led police to the killer! Did he have help? Hear from key witnesses who reveal never-before heard details. Will this investigation lead to the release of newly-discovered and confidential audio recordings so the public can hear the trial for the first time ever? Listen to the first episode now: http://bit.ly/2XDFub0New episodes will be available every Monday on PodcastOne.com and Apple Podcasts.  Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:48 and American Nightmare. Oh, stick around after the interview for a special sneak peek. If you like what you hear, click the link in the description to hear more and yeah, it's pretty scary. So if you're one of those people that loves scary, you gotta check this out, you're gonna love it. All right, so I'm so excited to be welcoming
Starting point is 00:01:07 to this show, my podcast fan, major fan love right now for a new show, 22 hours, an American nightmare. Now, straight up, everyone needs to know, I'm a big scary cat, and I was a little nervous when I dug into the show and hearing about what the work that Megan and Jack are doing, but the more I learn, I am really blown away about the passion and commitment
Starting point is 00:01:33 and risk that both of Megan and Jack took to pivot their careers to pursue something that they knew they needed to work on. So Megan and Jack, welcome to the show. And please share with us what's going on. Thanks,, thanks for having us. Thank you. I guess we'll basically just say what what our show is about. It's essentially the prosecution said it was a case that nightmares are made of and it really just kind of shakes you to the core. It's a wealthy businessman and his wife, their 10 year old sonold son, and the family's housekeeper, just on a regular,
Starting point is 00:02:06 normal day in May of 2015, were all of a sudden taken hostage, they were tortured for 22 hours, and then eventually they were killed, and nobody knew about this until firefighters showed up at their house when it was burning down, and found them inside. And so, you know, we work for a news station in Washington, D.C. and we covered that crime. And then usually kind of in the news cycle, as we know it now, you hear about a crime and then you don't hear about it again. And we followed it all the way through until the trial, which ended up being three years later. And the man was convicted in their murders after a six week trial. And so the podcast is not only about the crime
Starting point is 00:02:43 and the investigation and the trial, but it's also about how Jack and I kind of found ourselves in the middle of this project and how we navigated through it and worked together to get it done. How did you find that commitment to stick with this so long? So I think it really comes back to the partnership aspect and also we have a really great boss who really has championed this project because you know completely honest we've been working on this for months and there was probably a point several months ago where I would would have been working on my own I would have given up you know I just couldn't I felt like we had hit a wall and we were trying to get some people to speak to us for the project people who had testified in the trial and this was a very difficult moment of their lives. So that, you know, they didn't want to participate. And I said, well,
Starting point is 00:03:29 we can't get the people that we need to talk to, you know, so I throw my hands up, I guess, I guess we're done, you know, no more podcasts. But luckily I was with, you know, working with Megan and with our boss who really believed in the project and, you know, and kept pushing. So I think that has been essential, having a good teammate, having a good partnership. So when you feel like giving up, you can't get this project done. Somebody else is there to push you. Totally agree.
Starting point is 00:03:57 When you're surrounded by people that not only encourage you and support you, but stretch you to go further than you know you can go. That is such a key to confidence in achieving your goal. So, so happy for you guys. You had those people on your team. What is it that the listeners are going to get or learn from your show? Well, they're going to learn about this, you know, what happened to this family. And really, it's interesting because beyond the crime, you learn about how police actually go about doing this, not in a CSI TV way.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I mean, really, and how they found this killer was through a piece of pizza of all things. They found his DNA on a piece of pizza crust to the trial. And it's almost ends up being like a civics lesson in how, you know, some things, as humans, we want everything to fit, right? We want like the storyline to make sense. And in court, it doesn't necessarily have to. So
Starting point is 00:04:52 there was all of these details that as you're going through the podcast with us, Jack and I, you know, we are kind of living it with you. And and we have audio diaries from when I was covering the court, the, the the the trial at court. And you hear me being like, well, that doesn't make sense because so and so said this. And you kind of hear us, you're like, like, figuring it out with you. And in the end, you know, all the jury needed was, was reasonable doubt to convict. And they did. But, but podcasts is not necessarily who done it. It's how.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And it's why and piecing together all of these details that were sort of thrown like confetti on the floor. And we had to pick them up and put them in the right spot and make sure they made sense. So it's the first time this story has been told chronologically laid out in a way that you can like go through the journey with us. So you're basically pulling the curtain back behind the scenes to recreate exactly what happened. Exactly. And I think, and a big thing, you know, for Megan and I both was to give the listener, as Megan said, almost like a civics lesson, to kind of elevate the material, you know, because this is very dark and in a really horrible crime.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And we didn't want to just focus on, you know, on the gruesome details, but to show how the justice system works. And this case is not a normal case. It was very high profile here in the Washington, DC area. So this is the perfect opportunity to show people how the justice system works. Outside, a lot of people have a view of from TV, which is kind of over dramatized in ours is trying to give people a real picture of how it works. National security experts are warning, our aging power grid is more vulnerable than ever.
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Starting point is 00:10:36 grappling with it a little bit. How to cover it, how to do it. I mean, there's a day where, as a reporter, I'm not supposed to have any feeling in my reports. It doesn't matter how I feel. But when I was calling Jack, I feel like the autopsy day, I just told him, I was like, I don't know how I'm going to do this. You know, this is just so horrible. I hear it not only like the motion that kind of we go through, but then also just us like going
Starting point is 00:11:00 to the scenes and talking about, okay, does this matter? Should we add this in? So not only is it, you know, the story in trial, but it's also h together. That is going interesting. And as much I'm a big scaredy cat. I now I have fear of missing I'm totally in and I suggest
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Starting point is 00:12:31 green lawn. The neighborhood is tucked away behind DC's famed Embassy row. The home of the Australian ambassador is right there across the street and the vice president's official residence is to few blocks away. I just drove up to the building and it's pouring out of the overhang. Okay, from which floor is the part coming from? It's coming from the looks I get initially from a bedroom, but it's going sweeping across the whole overhang on the front of the house. This is the private house thing of how?
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's a private mansion. Ben's had just finished eating his lunch in his truck. He was about to head home. Board by taking the same turns on the same streets for weeks. Ben's had just finished eating his lunch in his truck. He was about to head home. Board by taking the same turns on the same streets for weeks. He decided on a whim to take a new way out of the neighborhood. That decision took him right past the house with smoke pouring out of his heaves. OK, I've ordered a centipart department at 3201 woodland drive northwest.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yes, a cup of the health. No one seems to have a house. I don't think anybody's in the house, but I can't tell. I knocked on the door and I can hear your long going off and there's a fire. Yeah, it's a house is like crackling. No flames yet, but the smoke is just torn out. Now it's drink-wik. DC
Starting point is 00:13:43 firefighters arrive in a matter of minutes. One of the first trucks to arrive is from engine company 28. It's a fire station right near the National Zoo, about a five-minute drive from the massive brick home on Woodland Drive. The first firefighter, Lieutenant Chris Hershey, rushes up the flagstone path to the front door. The address is spelled out in gold lettering on the archway.
Starting point is 00:14:12 The door is locked, though he kicks it in. Hershey had no idea. He was walking into a crime scene. Standing in the foyer, Hershey sees thick black smoke pouring down the stairs in front of him. It's so heavy that even with his helmet light on, he can't see his hand in front of his face. Firefighters are trained to fight fires from the inside out to go right to the source of the fire. He starts to climb the staircase. Navigating up the stairs in the dark, Hershey pushes open a bedroom door. He's found it. The whole room is lit up orange.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Flames are rolling up the walls. We got room off when the fire is on. We have a line on. On the 28th, you have a room off when the second floor you have a line on the fire. These are the fire department radio transmissions from that day. A line means that Hershey has a hose on the fire, and he's trying to put it out.
Starting point is 00:15:00 There are other recordings from this day, too. They're filled with firefighter jargon. But they help illustrate the chaos at the scene. As firefighters discovered, this was not a normal fire. More firefighters start to pull up on Woodland Drive and pour into the house, looking for anyone who might be inside overcome by the smoke. Private Michael Aider is one of them. He's not here to fight the fire. He doesn't even have a hose. Just his tank of oxygen and a mask over his
Starting point is 00:15:29 face. Basing the thick black smoke, he heads to the second floor to look for victims. And right away, Aider knows he's on a deadline. His oxygen will only last him about 25 minutes and is a very big house. Though he knows he needs to work quickly. Ada goes to a different bedroom from the one lieutenant Hershey is in, working to extinguish the roaring flames. Ada heads across the hall to another bedroom filled with thick smoke. There's no fire here, but he knows there could be a person who couldn't find their way
Starting point is 00:15:59 out. So Ada starts what's called a right hand search. He gets down close to the ground, and ors himself by keeping one hand anchored to the wall on his right. Starting at the door, he runs his hand along the wall until he covers the entire room's perimeter. But Ada can barely see. With one hand maintaining contact with the wall, he reaches out with the other, blindly
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Starting point is 00:18:14 He reaches up to where he'd expect a head might be. It feels a face. What? TV priority out of it. It's a one second tour. Aitor goes to lift the person out of the chair, but he can't get a good grip. What? He'd be proud of you. I think it was the second floor. Aitor goes to lift the person out of the chair, but he can't get a good grip. Some things wrong, they keep slipping out of his grasp, and he doesn't know why.
Starting point is 00:18:34 He doesn't know if the person is alive, but they feel like dead weight. He goes to lay them on the floor so we can try and lift them in a different way. As he lowers the person onto the floor, he realizes he's laying them on top of another body. Correct for your quick victim. Water and Delta. Eight, second floor. Aitor manages to carry the first person out to the hall
Starting point is 00:18:57 and hands them to another firefighter to bring to the medics outside. He turns back and finding the doorway to that same smoke-filled bedroom. He sees his lieutenant has just arrived to help. Ada goes to the spot where he found the second victim on the ground and begins to lift them off the floor. But across the room, his lieutenant says, help me lift this person. I am,ator insists, with his hands under the arms of the second body. That's when they both realize they're holding different people.
Starting point is 00:19:21 There's a third victim in the room. There are a table at the back. with his hands under the arms of the second body. That's when they both realize they're holding different people. There's a third victim in the room. There are a table of three victims. I can't be trucked. You can't be trucked. Two with side, you're on. Rescue dogs. Three victims.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Remove. Second floor. He dealt the quadric. All off run. All the medic units. The recordings are a little hard to understand. We'll need medic units. That's what the firefighter says. Outside 32-01 Woodland Drive, three victims lay in a row on the front lawn. They're covered in blood. The firefighters can't really figure it out. There's not usually that much blood at the scene of a fire. They wonder if there had been an explosion of some kind. The medics work frantically, and one of the victims is lifted on a stretcher and rushed
Starting point is 00:20:14 to the ambulance nearby. It's been a surprising 25 minutes, and not in a good way. Ada takes a seat on the curb and starts to process what just happened. He removes his mask and draws a breath of fresh air. Up until now, the smoke had clouded his vision. He was using his hands to get around and navigate his way through the room, through the house. This is the first time he's seeing what's on his gear.
Starting point is 00:20:40 He looks down and sees something red. It's definitely blood, and it's on his mask. It's covering his turnout gear. It's on his boots. It's on his gloves. After he suits up to go back inside, Ada finds that thick smoke upstairs is starting to clear. And he finally gets a good look at the bedroom where he found those three people.
Starting point is 00:21:02 There's only one way to describe it. It's a blood bath. The Roman tribe of St. James, two, two of the crime jins. The police are now on the way. It's clear to everyone on the scene the bloody victims pulled from the upstairs bedroom
Starting point is 00:21:22 weren't simply overcome by smoke. And there's still another gruesome discovery for firefighters inside the other bedroom. Across the hall, where Lieutenant Hershey and other firefighters are working to put out the fire. Lieutenant Cory Goats is working back up. He's crawling toward a window when he kind of falls into a hole in the floor. The heat from the fire had burned so intensely, it melted the bed. The floorboards had given way, creating almost a crater in the middle of the bedroom,
Starting point is 00:21:51 filled with blackened bed springs, and something else. When goats trips into that hole, he brushes against something, part of the body. He reaches up to confirm his suspicions and feels what might be a small knee He reaches farther to feel another leg and then his gloves land on what feels like ahead It's the charred body of a child It is being called a major crime scene as homicide investigators examine a house that caught fire in Northwest DC There's a crime scene. They found four people in clean a child dead inside on the checkered floor.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Right now it does not appear that this was just a random crime. I said, by what? They said we don't know. They killed a horse. Police have said they believe more than one person is responsible for the crime. A wide-reaching manhunt for Darren Wint, stretching all the way to New York City. We had to DNA on a piece across how did his DNA get into that house.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I have a package that I'm going to need for YouTube to bring down to me. To do what he did to four people, including a ten-year-old boy, is just beyond words. They were brutalized and we saw the evidence of that. The jury has just reached a verdict in the murder trial of Darren Wins. He was going to strike the American dream just by committing murder in May. I'm Megan Chlority. Thanks for listening to 22 hours,
Starting point is 00:23:13 an American Nightmare, a new true crime podcast from WTOP in Washington, D.C. He'll be enjoying this episode so far. I'm Jennifer Cohen, host the top ranking business and entrepreneur podcast, Habits and Hustle, apart the YAP media network, the number one business and self improvement podcast network. So, most people live the life they get and not the life they want. And I'm here to change all that.
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