Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Colin O’Brady Asks ‘What’s Your Everest?” Episode 58
Episode Date: June 9, 2020The growth that happens within adversity can ultimately lead us to really positive outcomes in the long run. If we understand and learn how to harness it. Colin O’Brady learned this lesson first han...d after a tragic accident that landed him in the hospital compelling his mother to flee to his side, which happened to be at a hospital in Thailand. Her consistent positivity during Colin’s healing process set Colin on his way to the life-changing mind-shift that ultimately lead to his record-breaking, adventure seeking achievements. About The Guest: Colin O’Brady is an American professional endurance athlete, motivational speaker and adventurer. He is a former professional triathlete, representing the United States on the ITU Triathlon World Cup circuit, racing in 25 countries on six continents from 2009–2015. O'Brady is a four-time world record holder. In 2016 he set the Explorers Grand Slam (Last Degree) and Seven Summits speed records. He became the fastest person to complete the adventurers challenges in 139 days and 131 days respectively. In the summer of 2018, O'Brady set the speed record for the 50 US High Points in 21 days. On December 26, 2018, he completed a solo crossing of the land mass of Antartica, excluding the ice shelves, using the South Pole Traverse (SPoT) vehicle road during the last 366 miles (589 km) of the journey. In 2007, O'Brady began what was planned as a year-long backpacking trip around the world. In January 2008, on the island of Koh Tao, he suffered a devastating burn injury. Though he was warned he might never walk normally, he took his first step the following month and was determined to make a full recovery. Finding Colin O’Brady: Visit his website: https://www.colinobrady.com Buy his book The Impossible First Twitter & Instagram: @colinobrady To inquire about my new coaching program opportunity visit https://mentorship.heathermonahan.com Review this podcast on Apple Podcast using this LINK and when you DM me the screen shot, I buy you my $299 video course as a thank you! My book Confidence Creator is available now! get it right HERE If you are looking for more tips you can download my free E-book at my website and thank you! https://heathermonahan.com *If you'd like to ask a question and be featured during the wrap up segment of Creating Confidence, contact Heather Monahan directly through her website and don’t forget to subscribe to the mailing list so you don’t skip a beat to all things Confidence Creating! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi and welcome back. I'm so excited you're here. Wow. A lot has happened in the last week and
it's surreal. Life feels surreal, honestly. It's been a lot on all of us.
And I've actually, I'm stopping watching the news,
I'm taking a little break because it was getting me
really down, really down.
And I just, I couldn't process it.
I was feeling scared, upset, not sleeping good.
So not helpful for me, not sure about you.
But for me, I decided I need to separate myself a bit
from social media and the media. And so last me, I decided I need to separate myself a bit from social media and the media.
And so last night, I decided to watch a movie with my son. And on TV, they played the movie Up,
which is essentially the super cute kid movie about an older man that appears to have been with his wife for like 50 years, happy years, loved her, you know, she was his life and then she passed away
and he became known as this angry old mean man,
but really he was heartbroken,
but he didn't show that to the world
and along comes this little boy
who's trying to get a badge and to get the badge,
you have to help old people
and so he's trying to help this unhappy, angry old man. Turns out the man's whole plan
was to get the house to fly up to essentially wants to get back to his wife and you know, be with her
and go to the places she loved and just sit next to an empty chair, you know, traveling the world
thinking it currently dies and gets to be with her. And so this little boy ends up on the flying house
and the whole epiphany moment of the movie is when he started to forge a relationship
with the little boy and the animals
that they're spending their time with,
and he doesn't realize it.
He wasn't looking to do that,
but it was happening over time.
He was unaware, and he starts worrying about them
and caring about them, not meaning to.
He definitely did not want to,
and he went inside his house
to sit next to the empty chair. He always sat next to, because definitely did not want to. And he went inside his house to sit next
to the empty chair, he always sat next to because his wife was no longer there. And he pulled out
this book that she had given him right before she passed away. It was a photo album with notes in
it. And at the end, it was so beautiful. It said, thank you for an amazing adventure. Now,
onto your next one, you know, looking forward to having
you enjoy your next one. Something like that, you know, it's time to close this chapter,
and you've got to move on to your next adventure. Oh my gosh, I was bawling. I could cry right
now thinking about it. So, he closes the book and decides to go and save the little boy and the
animals that he's been spending time with, that he had feelings and emotions for, basically
little boy and the animals that he'd been spending time with, that he had feelings and emotions for, basically, close the door on the past and step into the new adventure. And he does, and he does it
with vigor and happiness and, oh, so beautiful. Doesn't mean he loses those memories. It just means
he's not going to sit there stuck living in the past, because he was literally living sitting next
to an empty chair. It was really a so eye opening because I know so many people get stuck
in situations, in relationships, in jobs, in ruts,
whatever, you know, sitting next to an empty chair,
figuratively, right?
I did that.
I was stuck in an empty job for a long time.
And I would say I had golden handcuffs.
That was my visual and the words I would use.
And our words have so much freaking power.
So I really appreciated that movie last night.
It really, I don't know, it connected with me.
And I just wanted to share that message with you
that at any point in time, we can close our book
on one adventure, keep the memories with us,
and move on to our next adventure.
And I think that's really powerful.
So I don't know why I had this jot it down.
Sometimes I take notes during the week on my notebook
or on my computer and I had written down,
enjoy the journey.
And I have to tell you, I hate this.
I hear this all the time from people like Gary Vaynerchuk
or other people who are killing it,
millions of followers, making millions of dollars,
having been in the entrepreneurial game forever.
And they're like, oh, you have to enjoy the journey. That is such BS. I just want to tell you that because right now, I'm not enjoying the journey. Anyone who really hasn't made it, who
hasn't hit that tipping point, I think would agree with me on this. The journey's freaking hard
and pretty dark right now too, you know. And yeah, I'm doing the things that I need to pivot and work my tail off to find
ways to make this work. And I am and I will, and I'm certain of that, and I want you to have
certainty in you and the the choices you're making and the pivots you're making. However,
the journey's hard until you make it, right? Once you kind of know that you're, oh, I'm about there.
Okay, then you can really start to enjoy it.
Until then, it's a guessing game,
an epivating game, and a failing game,
and picking yourself back up game, and a hard game,
and a lost game, and a win, and a fail,
and a loss, and an embarrassment, and, you know,
and all the rest.
I really have this vision clearly
because I had made it, quote unquote,
in corporate America, right?
I was at the C-suite, I'd been promoted. I don't even know how many freaking times in my career. But I was on this trajectory, you it, quote unquote, in corporate America, right? I was at the C-suite I'd been promoted.
I don't even know how many freaking times in my career.
But I was on this trajectory, you know, taking off.
And I remember when I hit vice president of sales,
I, you know, then I started enjoying the journey, right?
I knew when I was younger and I was an account executive,
delivering wine on the back of trucks
and having people say disgusting things to me,
I was not enjoying the journey, right?
So I want people to have that realization.
It depends where you are in your journey
before you start enjoying it.
And I don't want people to have that pressure
because I don't have that pressure on myself.
No, I get it.
I've seen this movie and I know when you're at the lower rung,
I'm only, you know, at two and a half years right now
in being an entrepreneur, it's still freaking hard.
It's really hard and it's confusing and I haven't figured it out and I don't have the
hacks.
And then when COVID came and then when the protests and rioting and looting came and, you
know, fear came and all of these different, really difficult feelings that can distract
you, that can keep you from sleeping in right there.
I mean, the whole pitfalls go on and on.
So, I don't want you to have the pressure on yourself
to enjoy the journey.
Right before coronavirus hit, I felt internally.
You know, I'm not saying it was definite,
but I kind of, finally, I was getting booked by agents.
And that really was the tipping point for me.
Because up until that point, my speaking business,
I was booking everything.
And suddenly, I was booking everything
and suddenly I was getting booked by the agents and they were getting the testimonials back from the clients and they were killer. I saw that sequence of three times in a row happen,
I kind of knew I just hit my tipping point. Now they trust me, they believe in me, they've got the
feedback, they're going to start pitching me more, I'm landing more gigs and I started getting booked
and booked and then coronavirus happened
and I was so close to that tipping point
and it just disappeared, right?
I understand that had that really come together
with the way I saw it happening,
I would have really started enjoying the journey
because then you've got the cash coming in,
then you've got the foresight and the picture to see,
okay, I'm great for the next few months,
I'm not going month to month anymore,
not knowing in the volatility and fear and you know, hours that I'm putting in and giving up on everything else,
but work right now. I do understand, enjoy the journey. Really means once you hit that tipping point,
you will enjoy it because you know, with certainty and clarity and you can see it that it's there.
Now, my journey changed as did yours, as did everyone's in the last three months.
And so I'm rewriting that journey.
So I'm not at the tipping point right now,
which is okay, because now I've seen the movie
a couple of times and the more times you see the movie,
the more certainly feel that you will hit that tipping point.
And then I will start enjoying that journey much, much more.
So I just wanted to share that with you.
And then I can't not say something about what's
been happening in the country over the past 10 days,
past week, two weeks.
So I, like many people, didn't know what to do.
Everyone knew what to do.
And it was scary with that.
I mean, my city was shut down because of looters
and crime and violence and horrible things
that happened that were so scary and we all went on this lockdown and curfews
and it happened so fast it was so bizarre and what's interesting is and I just
realized this so many people who aren't in major cities maybe haven't felt it
the way that if you're in a big city
that you have, and I think different cities
have been impacted differently.
So my heart goes out to everybody.
Even the people who aren't affected by it,
who are confused, they don't even get it,
but it's been a really scary time for everyone.
However, I am a huge supporter of equality.
I am a huge supporter of crime,
when a crime is committed, when someone is killed unjustly for no freaking
reason that person has to pay accountability doesn't matter who you are.
I also believe there are good police officers out there.
So I believe so wholeheartedly in the first amendment and I believe people should voice
their opinions and peaceful protesters should be welcomed anywhere and everywhere.
Peaceful protesters should be welcomed anywhere and everywhere. Peaceful. Not those looting and taking advantage of a situation and turning things into violent acts more violence, more stealing, more hurting our country and the people within it that don't deserve it.
So I posted about it this weekend and I saw a lot of people being very judgy on social media. I don't know if you saw this, I don't like that. How is this a time to judge and batter people?
Right, I saw people posting,
you're not supposed to say that, that's not helpful.
This isn't blah, blah, blah.
I mean, some people I saw saying nice things,
like, oh, that's not the hashtag to use
if you want it to be a part of what's going on on Tuesday.
This is a hashtag, that's cool and helpful.
But I don't like when people are judging
or using their personal bias.
You shouldn't write that,
this is a better thing to write.
And I knew people would write things like that,
given that I have my own opinions,
and I'm happy with my own opinions.
And I also knew I had to post something
because I am confident in who I am at 45 years old.
Thank, freaking God.
And I know I'm not for everybody,
because I'm not vanilla.
And I don't wanna be vanilla.
And I've learned to step into that and own who I am and
Deal with you know the fallout. I support black people. I support people of all color
I support everyone and I myself. I have been sexually harassed. I have been
harassed by another woman. I have been
Abused as a child. I've had so many crappy things happen to me in my life.
Let me tell you, I don't want any of that for anyone.
So anyone that's suffering or being treated unjustly,
unfairly, any type of inequality is disgusting to me
and should not be tolerated.
That's where I stand on that.
However, I am not for violence, I am not for looting,
and I'm crystal clear on that,
and I shared that on social media.
And yeah, of course I got some haters that came out for meoting and I'm crystal clear on that and I shared that on social media and yeah
You know of course I got some haters that came out for me and I ignore them
I've learned that over the years. I don't even respond to me anymore. That's what they want right but I do think in some
Weird way as awful as this has been for everyone and the fact that
Lives have been lost now so many lives around the country, now that the violence has occurred,
there's been a lot of deaths.
It's just so needless deaths.
It's horrific for everyone.
I just think bigger picture
our world will change for the better because of this.
I do believe that, not because of the violence
and all of that crap,
but I do believe that the whole world
was in this heightened, sensitive space
and this horrific
act occurred in a man lost his life and that just started a domino effect of no more tolerance.
And that is a fantastic thing.
So I'm very hopeful for our world.
I'm hopeful for our country moving forward that it will make our country and our citizens,
all of us better people, more real discussions, get real, keep it real,
and keep moving because this is going to be a better place to live and a better world
to be.
And so that's what I'm hopeful for.
That's what I'm focusing on.
I know that everyone needs to focus on different things for themselves.
A lot of people are turning to God and prayer right now, which I completely applaud and jump
in on.
I'm definitely praying so much more than than I normally would. So
praying for peace for everyone, kindness and understanding and please stop judging. I really,
I remind myself every day, I'm not going to judge others. I don't know what they're up against.
I don't know their situation and I'm really moving forward with that attitude every single day.
And I'm reminding myself too because it's sometimes I want to judge someone,
but I won't let myself. I can't.
So, I want to also talk about the importance of consistency, you know,
when the coronavirus started, I was very upset and freaked out
because my speaking business disappeared and I was panicking.
And I was eating whole bags of my son's M&Ms.
I don't know why I did that.
I felt like I had a free pass.
Like the world took something away from me
and now I was gonna go on a bender of eating Nutella
and M&Ms ridiculous.
I'm super disciplined.
Anyone that knows me really well,
I'll be the guy sitting at the table,
not eating anything other than the salmon tartar
and salad.
But I came off the rails and you can't do that at freaking 45.
I don't know who I was kidding.
But here's what it reminds me now.
Here we are three months later and I'm like battling my way back, trying to lose weight
and get in shape again, is that consistency is key, whether it be with your diet, whether
it be with your whether it be in your business. Consistency is key, whether it be with your diet, whether it be with your, or whether it be in your business.
Consistency is key.
And my guess today, the reason why I'm bringing this up
and, or I thought about it, is a year ago,
I tried to get him on as a guest.
He's an amazing guest.
Huge guests, everybody wants him.
He's on the tonight show, he's on the today's show,
he's on everything huge.
He's huge, super happy for him too.
Really, really nice guy.
Awesome wife, it really nice people. We have a great mutual friend that actually connected me to him a year ago.
And a year ago I reached out, crickets, and my friend came back, reconnected again.
There was an exchange, we couldn't find a date, crickets.
And so I just kind of forgot about it and moved on.
And my good friend Scott came to me a couple of weeks ago and said, what happened with him?
And I said, oh, they blew me off.
I don't know.
And he said, Heather, since when are you going to let take that as an answer?
Like blow you off.
Come on.
And go back after him again.
I'll help you.
He reconnected me this time to the wife.
And this time I was able to land him as a guest.
So don't forget about the people in your pipeline, the people you're going after.
Stay in touch with your network and let them know what you're working on, let them know about the challenges
that you face and be consistent with reaching out.
You know, I almost missed having this amazing guest today for you because I wasn't being
consistent.
Luckily, I was reminded of my good friend Scott.
I got to jump back into consistency and I'm doing it now with my workout.
I'm doing it now with my eating and I'm so grateful. I'm doing it now with my workout. I'm doing it now with my eating and I'm so grateful.
I'm doing it now with my guests.
So I can't wait for you to meet my next guest.
You are going to love him and I can't wait to hear what you think.
Hang tight.
We need a different guest each week.
We're going to the church.
All of us really.
Hi and welcome back.
I'm so excited to introduce you to Colin O'Grady. If you've never heard of him, you are one of the only.
He's one of the world's most recognized endurance athletes and explorers. He's a 10 time world record holder and Yale University grad.
It's very impressive to me. In 2018, he became the first person in history to cross the continent of Antarctica, solo, unsupported,
and unassisted.
The New York Times said Obrady's Antarctica crossing joined some of the most remarkable
achievements in polar history.
Guinness World Records called Obrady's most recent success, the world's first completely
human-powered ocean row across Drake Passage from South America to Antarctica, one of the most
significant human-powered adventures ever undertaken.
But Khan is in just an elite athlete and an adventure.
He's a highly sought-after public speaker, New York Times best-selling author of The Impossible
First, and is considered to be one of the foremost experts on mindset.
His TED Talk, Change Your Mindset and and achieved anything. Has been viewed over two
million times. Khan has been featured on leading platforms including the Today Show, Tonight Show,
Joe Rogan, New York Times, CBS, PBS, CNN, the list goes on and on. Khan, thank you so much for
making time to be here with us today. My pleasure is great to be here. Okay, so I really want to jump into,
I've heard so many, I've heard your TED Top,
which is amazing, I've heard so many of your interviews,
and one of the things that I really wanted to get
some background on with you is, as a child,
taking it way back, when you go back to your childhood,
did you have this vision for your future?
What did you want to grow up and be?
Yeah, you know, as a young kid,
I always kind of really love sports from really young age.
I was a swimmer, I was a soccer player.
My family didn't have a lot of money or anything
when I was a kid to travel,
but kind of always instilled this value of kind of,
you can do anything you set your mind to.
So my earliest memories of kind of sports
as a kid was watching the Olympics.
So now it was six, seven years old
and like dreaming and my mom saying to me,
like maybe one day you could do that or that kind of stuff. There was a lot of
kind of encouragement and, you know, dreaming, but dreaming and actually kind of talking about how
to turn those dreams into reality, whether that was in sports or academics or things like that.
And kind of, I think it was long before this phrase was coined. When I look back, I think there was
a lot of growth mindset in still to me as a young age, it just kind of like, here we are in this moment,
but kind of with hard work or dedication to whatever it is.
And as I was pushed towards sports,
necessarily I was just my passion,
kind of this belief of kind of, you know, achieve a lot of it.
So I guess I didn't know that I would be walking across
an article by myself or some of these other things,
but I always did love the outdoors,
I always did dream of climbing Everest as a little kid
and stuff like that.
So that was sort of deeply embedded in there
for sure as a young age.
It's so interesting to me with the growth mindset concept
and the huge role that your mother played on really
instilling this in you and walking you through
that exercise when you needed her most.
Could you share a little bit about that hard,
really dark time in your life?
Yeah, so just after graduating from college,
although I have an economics degree,
most of my friends is 2006 for headed off to Wall Street
because it was just a pre-credit crisis and all of this.
And that just didn't seem like the path
that I want to take right out of school,
though certainly the financial security that appealed to me,
I kind of had this wanderlust still
and I hadn't traveled to actually painted houses
in the summer as a kid, saved up a few thousand dollars.
I said, I'm gonna buy one way plain ticket
to see the world like on the cheap,
just like living in youth hostels and hitchhiking
and basically living as cheap as I possibly could,
just have like a few beers and a roof over my head at night,
being a young kid in those 20s.
And it was an amazing experience, I'll told,
but up until I found myself in rural Thailand,
unfortunately, a really bad accident happened,
I was severely burnt in a fire,
and the rope wrapped around my legs,
there was a burning rope,
and it kind of lit my entire body on fire,
ended up in an entire hospital.
There was, you know, my mom, you know,
flew out after four or five days,
and the doctors were telling me, look,
on you'll probably never walk again normally.
And so it was just a really kind of rough situation, obviously middle and nowhere, really bad medical facilities, terrible diagnosis, you know, physical pain, emotional trauma.
And I can only imagine what it's like to be a mother to fly over there and, you know, see your kid in this helpless state.
You know, as a mother wants to do, it's kind of helping and love. And this is pretty kind of out of her control as well. But one of the thing most remarkable things
I look at is such a turning point in my life as my mother could have very easily, you know,
shown me her own fear. And I know now she was kind of crying in the hallways with the doctors
pleading for good news, but she really never showed me that fear. Instead she kind of came
into my hospital room every day with this big smile on her face and this kind of air positivity
and of urging me to look towards the future saying like you're in a bad situation right now you are facing a significant amount of adversity but your life
isn't over.
What do you want to do when you get out of here?
Let's look towards the future and it took me a while to buy in.
Admittedly the first few days I was like what are you talking about?
I'm never going to walk in normal.
I'm going to be in a wheelchair, all this kind of stuff.
But she really kind of instilled that belief in kind of long story short, you know, encouraged me to set a goal, which ultimately I said,
you know, pictured myself racing a trathlone one day, thinking that kind of, I'd never
done that before, but thought, you know, that would be what kind of my able bodied self
could do after an accident like this, and kind of, you know, focus on training for that,
first just in my mind, and then my mom kind of teaching me how to walk again normally,
sort of a long story, but basically long story short, after 18 months being told I would never walk again normally.
I showed up in Moofy Chicago, took a job out there,
and raced the Chicago Trap Lawn.
My first race effort, which I ultimately didn't just finish
and complete, but I actually won the entire race,
beating about four or five thousand other participants
on the day, which was complete shock to me.
But ultimately, it's not about like the winning some race. It was, you know, when I look back on the day, which was complete shock to me. But ultimately, it's not about like the winning some race.
It was, you know, when I look back on that moment, my mind
immediately goes back to that Thai hospital realizing my mom
taught me in that moment one of life's most valuable lessons,
which is, you know, life, no matter who we are, where we are,
for starting a business, family, relationship,
entrepreneur, what doesn't matter?
Like you are going to face adversity along the way.
But in these dark moments, in these low moments,
we have a choice of how we react and how we take our next steps
moving out of that low moment.
And my mother's positivity and love really taught me that
in this lowest moment.
And I look at it as just kind of sliding door moment,
which has had my mom not wrap me in that positivity
what would have happened versus the outcome
what she did and look where it is. I won this race and then fast forward 10, 12
years now, you know, said these world records and all these things and kind of
all spawn from this lowest moment. So it's a reminder that the growth that
happens within adversity, particularly if we can harness the way we react to it,
can ultimately lead us to really positive outcomes in the long term, which is
hard to remember when we're going through something hard.
That's for sure.
And so your message resonates so clearly
to so many right now struggling,
through this pandemic and quarantine.
So thank you for that.
One of the things I wanted to dive into a little bit more
about your mom that I really respect as a mother myself,
I imagine must have been so hard.
I can totally see how she was able to sit with you,
hold back her tears, and instill the positivity
I get that. But when I heard you talk about how she was sort of pushing you and teaching you to walk again when it was
Almost impossible for you to get out of the wheelchair at first and she was pulling the chair back
That really got to my heart because calling as a parent. I know you're not a parent yet
That's got to be tough for her to push you. Yeah, as a parent, I know you're not a parent yet, that's
got to be tough for her to push you.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's kind of, you know, I don't want to say tough love because I think my mom's
really definitely oriented towards maybe a gentler touch, but at times she knows kind of
when to push.
And, you know, I'm sure we'll talk about it later, but also my wife is kind of in the same
orientation and the things that we've built and created in our business
and these acquisition things has all been in product
of both of her and I's collaboration.
And there's been moments with my mother
as well as moments with Jenna where it's like,
they know when they need to kind of push me harder.
You know, there's been kind of intense moments on Everest
when I'm having my own doubts or in Antarctica
or whatever, where Jenna's like,
hey, like, you need to put your boots back on her.
You know, you need to do this. back on her. You need to do this.
And it's not coming from a place of kind of rough military,
Navy SEAL.
Like, you better do this hard enough, you know,
that kind of stuff.
But it's also not coming from, okay, it's fine.
Just sit there in the wheelchair.
It's definitely kind of like, hey, you committed to this goal.
And you're losing your way a little bit.
And let me kind of redirect that energy.
And my mother and Jenna, both of them
have that kind that balance of strength
that really they kind of know when to push.
And I also have a trust built up with them of kind of like,
okay, they're saying this, they're reminding me,
they're almost being a mirror to myself
and not being letting me be accountable to myself.
They're not instilling their belief system on me.
They're saying, hey, you set up this goal.
You wanted to do this, remember?
And I'm just reminding you of that. And you're like, right, right. Okay, this is where I
need to take deep. Yeah, I definitely see that parallel between your mom and your wife and
the strong women that you've surrounded yourself with and how they truly have elevated you to that
next level. And I like, you know, you're saying they're not taking the David Goggins in your face
approach, but they're also, you know, not Mary Poppins and sitting at your bedside holding your hand.
And I think that's really important, whether it be a wife or a mother or whoever, if you,
you know, if you don't have a spouse, if your parents aren't here, but picking those people
that can see that potential in you and be willing to have those hard conversations.
A hundred percent. I mean, look, this applies just to life in general.
It's not necessarily a full, unique concept,
but I'm definitely a big believer that we are the product
of even the five or 10 people that we spend the most time around.
That is certainly played out in my life,
and I see that around others.
And sometimes that can be hard, because sometimes,
there's people that have just been in your life,
whether it's your family or people have been in your life
for a long time, well well friendships and stuff like that.
And I cherish those old relationships,
particularly when you're daring to dream greatly,
when you have audacious goals,
and you're pushing yourself forward.
Sometimes the people that love you the most
oftentimes can hold you back in certain scenarios.
And it's not a way to say like,
cavalier, like just cut people out of your life
and throw them away and whatever,
but to also just be aware of who you are surrounding yourself with. If you're trying to build something creative,
if you're thinking outside the box, whatever, like find other people that buy into that or at least go,
I don't know how you're going to get there, but like I believe you're going to get there. And what's
fun about those relationships that I have in my life that have supported me is not a one-way street.
In the most ideal circumstance, you're also reflecting that back on sort of their goals
and their aspirations.
And so it's sort of a two-way, even though maybe you're not working in the same direction
or the same field or really completely different avenues, basically a support system where there's
kind of an equal buy-in both ways to kind of, you know, love and share support one another.
And that really goes back to what Jenna's goals were for April.
You and she had created some massive goals for her that
unfortunately have been paused.
Yeah, so after all these many world record breaking
exhibitions of my own that like I said,
she's been a huge part of planning and dreaming
and executing on my book, you know,
the See of the Impossible first.
It's certainly about my crossing of Antarctica,
but you quickly realize when picking up the book, it's really our story.
It's a story of, and there's a whole chapter on the entrepreneurship of how we had this
big goal of raising sponsorship dollars and how her and I were just out there hustling.
We could talk more about that, but it was fun.
One of the things that I like to ask people, I started out asking young people and kids
in my nonprofit, but it's really kind of extended to corporate settings,
my public speaking, et cetera,
because I've realized it's a question
that just resonates with myself and others,
which is what's your Everest?
I really wanted to climb Everest as a kid,
and not everyone wants to climb mountains,
that's totally fine, but it's an obvious metaphor,
which is like, what's your big goal?
What's your audacious thing that you want to work towards
and dream about, and answer that question for yourself?
What's your Everest?
And then now let's talk about actually the incremental steps of how to get there.
And it's fun, like I said, taking elementary school kids through that process and, you know,
leaders and businesses and CEOs, whatever.
There's obviously a different tactic, the age group you're talking to.
But Jenna came to me, you know, years ago, after being, you know, really not behind the
scene so much, but really, you know, out in, after being, you know, really not behind the scene so much,
but really, you know, out in front, but not in the field quite as much with me in these expeditions,
although she has done some incredible things, you know, physically in her own life.
And she said to me, you know what, Colin?
My average next year is to actually climb Mount Everest, which was, you know, really fun for me to hear.
It's not something I really pushed on her. And certainly she would say, not, you know, a childhood dream of her,
per se, but
as she's gotten closer to this sort of expedition life that we've been living for the past, you
know, many years, she's like, I think I can do that.
I need to train.
I need to prepare.
I need to improve my mountaineering skills all this, but she's not starting from scratch
either.
And so this whole past year, we trained and got her really ready and feeling great about
the possibility of climbing Everest.
We had our plane tickets and everything.
We're going to climb from the Chinese side so you can climb either from Nepal or to
bet.
Previously, I climbed from Nepal but we're going to climb from China.
So our flights on April 2020 to China, not the best time in our world to be flying there,
obviously.
So needless to say that expedition was canceled or hopefully postponed.
You can only really climb in April, May of any year. So it's tentatively on the schedule. A year
from now, it's just another example of step back. Sometimes when you set a big goal, it's not a linear
path to get there, but it definitely focused, you know, like I said, a few weeks before we're supposed
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So much of your teachings that really resonate with me are about that adaptation,
about the change, about not having that linear path and so many of us,
especially those of us who came up through corporate America,
we're so accustomed to that, right?
We're in a well lit area.
We know what the next move is.
And to start to learn, to anticipate
that things aren't going to go,
to anticipate the challenges are coming
so that we really change our mindset.
That's one of the biggest takeaways that I get
from your work,
your life experiences that really connects to me because it's so new. How are some of the ways
that you teach that expect the unexpected? Yeah, you know, obviously some of my teachings come
directly from the expeditions that I've, you know, set forth in, you know, just sort of draw on my
book a little bit again. It is a, you know,
adventure memoir of becoming the first person history across Antarctica alone, but it's
interspersed with all these kind of flashbacks from my life that ultimately are sort of teachings.
And the hope is, and the book really was written the way I wrote it, was not just to God, if you
really excited about an article or adventure, you should read this book. It's actually like, if you are ambitious in any sort of pursuit, this book has tangible
take-homes told through a narrative that is edge of your seat, exciting storytelling.
But I get feedback from single mothers who are like in the Midwest who are really nitrogen
and mountains or expedition or whatever, going like, oh my God, I got so much about this
about relationships and partnership and never. I've got people who are badass entrepreneurs or CEOs going like, oh my God, I got so much about this about relationships and partnership and never.
I've got people who are badass entrepreneurs or CEOs going like, oh my God, this is perfect
for my team because it's instilling these types of lessons.
So for me, when I do talk about it, and I will get to your question, talking, you know,
the context of an expedition.
For me, it's just a rich environment that I personally love to bring people into,
but because of the stakes, our life and death, because your decisions are very consequential, it's
actually a really great overlay for high performance really and anything that
you're trying to, you know, go after them. The book is called The Impossible First
and that is what I call my Antarctica Crossing, but my hope is that when people
set the book down, they feel inspired to take on their own impossible first
in their life, whatever that is.
Like I said, I'm not just advocating,
like go to an article or climb Everest.
It's like, that's not for you.
Like, who cares?
It's fine.
That's just my passion.
But in terms of the lessons around adaptation,
I think one of the biggest things, particularly
when you put yourself in an environment,
like I was in an article, like rowing
about across Drake Passage, like climbing Everest,
like some of the other things I've done,
is you're ultimately at the mercy of Mother Nature
for lack of a better word.
And I think that there's few of us on this planet that
think that we are fully in control when
all of a sudden a storm can rage in or the weather can shift
or a million other things that just are fully out
of your control when you're out there.
And that is a very good example of what it's like to navigate the business world, what it's
like to navigate personal relationships and things like that.
To realize, we are really only in control of ourselves, but there's all of this external
storms sort of brewing on the outside.
And so one of the things in terms of expecting the unexpected
is, Jen and I, when we set off on these expeditions, we always have a plan. You know, we're like,
well, be crazy not to have a plan. It's like, we think the Antarctica Crossing is going to take
about two months. I need to roughly this much food. I need to train to be able to drag a
375 pound sled, you know, all of these types of things. However, the subtext or the asterisk,
the big, like, kind of highlighted asterisk would be like, but we know this plan is not going to work. We have to have a plan,
we have to have a base level to start with, a business plan if you would. We actually saying in our
minds consciously to begin this process, there are so many variables, nature, health, wellness,
logistics that would be nearly impossible for it to all go to plan.
So just expect that we're going to have to pivot.
And in Antarctica, it's a great example.
I get out there, like I said, I train for all these things, I announce to the world, I'm
going to try to be the first person in history to make this crossing.
Other explorers had tried before me and failed.
It was a big New York Times article to launch the whole thing.
This tiny little plane drops me off on the edge of an article.
I've got 375 pounds sled.
And hour one, day one, I cannot pull my sled.
I can barely pull it.
And the chapter in my book about this is actually called Frozen Tears.
Because what happens when you actually started crying because I felt so bad for myself.
It's minus 25 degrees outside.
And what happens, the tears, they start freezing to your face,
like all the time pathetic.
Now, I thought to myself,
things aren't gonna go the way that I hope they would
at some point.
I thought that I was setting out to do something
that people had said was impossible,
so it was possible that I was gonna fail.
But I'll tell you what,
I did not think that that failure or that that was gonna come
in hour one, you know, mile
one of a nearly thousand mile journey.
That was a tough thing to react to.
So I pick up my satellite phone and I call home to Jenna thinking I said to her like, look,
like this might be over before it starts.
She's like, what?
Like, it's day one.
We didn't actually expect for this, but she says to me, she goes, do me a favor.
Just get to the very first way point.
So I have these like GPS markings.
And the first waypoint was like a mile or two
from where I was.
I was just like, I don't care how long it takes you to get there.
Get to the very first waypoint.
And then tonight, go to sleep in your tent
and we're going to regroup.
And to me, the less than that and the way
that I think that applies to other people
is we had another literally, literally, nearly 1,000 miles
to go.
I had, you know, 1000 and 1000 decisions
that needed me made between the first waypoint
and the last waypoint.
But Jenna said, like, forget about the whole path,
forget about the whole plan.
Execute on one tiny little incremental step now.
Then we get to that waypoint that night
and she's like, I think you have too much food in your sled,
it's too heavy, here's these things, let's adapt.
And she actually convinced me in this really kind of intense way to actually reduce the
amount of food that I had in my sled, which is kind of my life source, ultimately, weight
though, and leave it there at the start line, which ultimately, fortunately, I was still
in a zone where that could get picked up and have a negative environmental impact.
But the point in that and the lesson, how that to all of us is you set a massive goal.
You answered that question what your ever says. For me in this case, it was crossing an article.
Then you have a plan that you're going to execute on. And you say to yourself, at some point,
you're going to have to adapt this plan. But don't be surprised if you get smacked in the face,
day one, minute one, you still have to remember, hey, I still committed to this.
It's not all given up.
There are frozen tears on my face right now,
but I'm gonna figure out how to adapt and evolve.
And in this case, bouncing an idea
of a strategic partner, in this case, my wife,
really trying to problem solve in the moment,
even though the stakes are so high.
It is very embarrassing if I had told the whole world,
and the New York Times had just run this,
man tries to cross Antarctica and the next day,
it's like, and he failed after the pictures, you know.
One moment, I'm like, oh, I'm excited.
But that kind of urge to say,
there's not a single entrepreneur that I know
that's been very successful.
There's not a single creative artist,
people that we, you know,
athlete, et cetera, that we generally point to as, you know, people that we, you know, athlete, etc. that we generally point to as, you know, quote unquote successful, you know, mother, parent, whatever that is,
that hasn't had to pivot a number of times. There are very few people that say, like, oh,
yeah, I turned into my business plan for this great, you know, app, and it was a unicorn
overnight, you know, that's just not how it works. And so that applies everything. You
have to be willing to adapt in real time, shift your purpose, shift your goals, take food off your sled, take your
life source away that might be hedging against a different risk in the future.
And that is the pathway I have found anyways to navigating these challenges
and ultimately becoming successful in this. What everyone needs to understand
because I wouldn't have understood this if I hadn't researched you so much,
there was a true real threat of dying.
If you don't have enough food, the challenge for you or anyone trying something like this
is you needed to pack enough food so that you would be sustainable to actually live and
feed yourself.
And even you, as prepared as you were for this, I know that I've read or heard that you
were somewhat emaciated by the end of this. Yeah, so the crossing that had never been done
before is something called unsupported and unassisted in Antarctica, so unsupported
means no resupplies or food or fuel throughout, and then unassisted means no
usuflice or kites or dogs or anything else to propel you, but the unsupported
is kind of the key part of what we're talking about right now, which is that means there's no resupplies. I couldn't have like, oh, I ran out of food, fly over in a plane and drop me out of food,
or there's a GPS coordinate where I stash another extra 50 days of food or something like that.
So basically, it's like a closed system.
And it harkens back to the history of age-old exploration from a hundred years ago,
because I was the guy like Ernest Shackleton or Amincent, or these guys were exploring
an article
for the first time didn't have the choice to say,
calling on their GPS, like, hey,
just dropped me up some more food, I'm hungry.
It's like they were going out there and they had what they had.
And so it's kind of thought to be unsupported,
one of the purest forms of exploration
in the polar environments.
There had been a couple other people who had attempted
this crossing previous to me.
One guy unfortunately, after 71 days fell ill and ultimately passed away.
Another guy the year before I attempted, he ran low on supplies.
He was fortunately able to get picked up before anything life threatening happened to him,
but it ended his expedition because he was just out of food and fuel.
And so it's this weird equation which is how much food and fuel can I take with me in my
sled without running out. But if it's too much, you can't pull it. Like I said, I thought I could pull 375
pounds to start. It turned out that was too heavy. I needed a lower, it's about 350. But
if you put a thousand pounds of food, you're just never going to move at all. I know you
would have tons of food. You get to sit there and eat day after day after day, but you wouldn't
move at all. And so it's this very fine balance between having enough and not. And so for me,
sounds like a lot of food all are sitting here in having enough and not. And so for me, sounds
like a lot of food all were sitting here in our warm cozy houses. I was eating 7,000 calories
per day, but I was burning at least like 10,000 maybe more often. And so I was running about
a 3,000 calorie deficit every single day. From the beginning, I was starving. And so by
the end, you know, I had my hips protruding, my ribs are protruding. I put on 20 pounds
knowing I was going to lose this,
but I still lost so much weight that I was very emaciated.
And so you can imagine the stakes knowing that going in.
Obviously, I was aware that was going to happen going in,
having research and training for this.
And then having that phone call on day one,
which is you have to get rid of food.
Basically, you have to get rid of your excess supplies.
And we're
taking a gamble because this is, we're only going to know if this was the right decision,
50 days in the future when you do or don't run out. And ultimately, I finished the crossing.
I had 55 days of food after I dropped the food at the beginning and I finished on the
afternoon of the 54th day. So I was more or less down to, you know, my last few bites
of food as I made this push to finish.
So it's definitely a razor thin margin being able to complete something like this.
And again, applying that backwards, why I think the expedition environment is such a great
place to learn these lessons because the stakes are very real.
Now, not all of us want to or should be necessary in these life quote-unquote life threatening
or really high risk environments like we're talking about right here.
But we do, you know, decisions we make, you know, I know entrepreneurship is a big focus
of yours, obviously.
Decisions that you do make in your business can be sink or swim decision.
Should I allocate resources to these couple employees?
Should I hire a creative brand design to launch this product?
Should I this or that?
If I allocate those resources here and it doesn't work,
will my balance sheet is zero, does that mean I go bankrupt?
Can I not invest in the next product once?
Do I have to furlough or leave staff off?
We are constantly optimizing and making these decisions,
and we can either be paralyzed by the fear of them
and not make them, but not making a decision.
I think we both know is actually making a decision.
It's just making no decision is your decision.
And so it's a really high stakes environment to facilitate these type of thought processes,
but they really do apply to so many avenues of life, which is how to assess risk, how to
make decisions, how to allocate resources, time, et cetera,
in various different kind of buckets,
and ultimately, how to be confident in those decisions
and move forwards.
And sometimes they're the wrong decisions,
but how to then pivot quick enough off the wrong decisions
to not completely sink your ship so to speak.
So there's one other element I want to get into
in regards to Antarctica, just because I'm not sure
if everyone understands this.
And I think it's really interesting,
the element of competition for you in the scenario
and how you've explained that in the end,
you feel like it benefited you and Lou,
the other person that happened to be taking on
this same massive goal at the exact same time on that day
when you were standing there crying,
thinking that you might not be able to move forward.
Quick historic context.
I won't go too far down this, but basically as the other explorers that attempted this
in previous years had kind of come into the zeitgeist of exploration like, what's someone
be able to do this?
Is it impossible?
Who might be the first?
And so, I guess it wasn't a huge surprise, but it turned out that somebody else, another really experienced explorer by the name of Captain
Lu Rudd, a British guy, was attempting the crossing
at the very same time.
Now, Antarctica has a very specific season.
You can really only attempt this during the Antarctic summer.
So that's our Northern hemisphere winter.
And the logistics are so complicated and expensive
that there's like really only one guy,
you know, one company with a plane that can drop you off
on a specific date,
et cetera, that you have to chart.
It's very complicated.
And so not only was somebody attempting this at roughly the same time,
literally, there was this tiny plane,
we were both loaded into it on the exact same day sitting shoulder to shoulder,
dropped off on the edge of Antarctica.
We made it a choice to drop off one mile apart from each other.
So we weren't literally standing next to one another.
But you can imagine it's a, you know, like I said, nearly a thousand mile race and it's
like, ready, go.
And there's just a guy, like, right over there.
And this guy, you know, I kind of get into it in the first chapter of my book is he's intimidating
the hell out of me.
I mean, he's, you know, quite a bit older than I am, but really experienced,
when most experienced polar explorers in the world, he's a British military, seasoned,
seasoned British military veteran, all these kind of accolades from Buckingham Palace
had sent him off. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm relative novice in polar exploration.
Here's this guy who's been on some of the most pioneering expeditions in the world, like,
and then day one happens.
I can see him a mile away from me because in America, it's just like this plank empty
white place.
I can't move my sled.
And what do I see this guy in like full military march just taking off and disappearing on
the horizon?
And so not only am I thinking, I'm going to fail just personally because I was thinking
more of a personal challenge, but I was like, my competition on day one has already just left me in the dust.
And it was really hard to kind of wrap my mind around that. Now, you know, in contrast to that,
you know, your point of the competition elevating, it ultimately did once I kind of found my rhythm
again, did motivate me. Ultimately, I caught up to him on the sixth day, or just kind of weird moment
where we exchanged just a couple of words. Like we run into each other in the middle of this
literally blank white. You know, it's minus 25 degrees. It's 24 hours a daylight. It's endless white,
either white out or then it's the weirdest. It's like being on a different planet, but it's like
being inside, I say, inside the belly of a ping pong ball. It's just like disorientingly white and
cold everywhere you go. There's not a lot of features on the horizon. So I spot him, we exchange a couple words.
I ultimately take the lead and I stay in the lead.
But not like it was just easy.
Like every single day, I would wake up.
I was pulling my sled 12 hours a day and there was about five hours on either side of that,
of chores, of melting water and setting up my tent and these extreme conditions.
And you know, my fingers were getting a little bit suffrosified and fixing my gear and all these things.
There's a lot of hard work manually,
about 17 hours every single day.
So you can imagine when your alarm goes off every single day
on the 37th day of this, you're like, alarm goes off,
17 hours again in this brutal cold, in this storm,
in this this, there was not a single day
that I didn't get up.
I never actually took a rest day the entire time.
And a lot of that has to do with once I was in the lead, I was like,
if I even take a few hours off, if I like don't get out of bed immediately,
if I don't start my day, you know, consistently, if I don't put in 12 hours and
sled, he's going to catch up to me.
And ultimately, I think there's two, you know, key take homes, I think apply here.
One is, although the competition was heated,
and we were both certainly trying to be the first,
and spoiler alert, I was the first,
I'd be in by a couple of days, we both agree,
we've now continued a friendship,
and I'm so grateful for that,
and I'll talk about that in a second,
but we have both agreed that us both being out there
competing for this same goal, elevated both of ours game.
And the possibility, no one had completed this crossing before, and yes, I was first, us both being out there competing for this single elevated both of ours game.
And the possibility, no one had completed this crossing before, and yes, I was first,
but Lou was only a couple days behind me, and we both kind of acknowledged that had either
of us not been there, it's possible neither one of us would finish.
And so of course, how does that apply across the board, which is competition can be very
healthy in the sense that it really requires you to focus,
it requires you to not take a day off, it requires you to keep your eye on the prize,
it requires you to keep your eye on the goal. And then ultimately, for me, and this is more of a
personal thing, it is after making that crossing, and like I said, very proud to be first, etc.
But it's not like I want to stand at the finish line after that and beat on my chest.
As intimidated as I was by Lew in the beginning
What ultimately overcame me was this deep sense of gratitude and
Comradery and realizing there's seven billion people on this planet
There's one other guy that actually knows the intensity of what it took to drag this sled across an article all alone
I could either be like continued like an adversary of his but rather
article alone, I could either be like, continued like an adversary of his, but rather, both of us were like, thank you for being out here.
Like, thank you for this and the fact that I can, you know, I was texting with him just
a few days ago that I can like call him up or text him or whatever.
And if we want to like reminisce on the experience or talk about other expeditions, like ultimately,
like, I have the most respect in the world for this guy.
It's actually extraordinary what he did.
I'm proud of my own accomplishment.
And so it doesn't have to be such a binary winner, loser, this, that, there, thing.
It's like the power of the human spirit, the power that we all have inside of us to achieve
these extraordinary things.
Both of us, our competition, elevate each other to our best and highest levels.
And ultimately, I'm proud of my accomplishment
and I'm proud that both of us were able
to complete this crossing.
Yeah, I'm really proud of you for waiting for him to.
I was just blown away seeing still how uncomfortable you were.
It wasn't like they had some, you know,
four seasons igloo waiting for you when you made the end.
And you could kind of have a cocktail and wait for him.
I mean, you were still in that crappy tent out in negative
whatever degrees and you waited two days for this man. have a cocktail and wait for him. I mean, you were still in that crappy tent out in negative
whatever degrees and you waited two days for this man.
Yeah, I could have ultimately, you know,
hopefully the plane could have come and picked me up
and took me out of there, back to food and a shower
and this like bigger encampment, that's an Antarctica.
But ultimately, it just, you know, I thought about it
and it's hungry and tired and all the things that I was.
I was like, it just doesn't seem right
to just kind of, you know of fly back to that and maybe not
ever see him again because I could have ultimately kind of left the continent, depending on how
the logistics lined up before ever seeing him again.
And I'm so grateful that I did make that decision to wait.
Although yes, those couple of days weren't that comfortable.
I thought to myself, I've been out here for however many days already.
What's another couple of days to ultimately kind of really
have a full 360 reflection on this and be able to kind of debrief it with Lou.
One thing that neither of us really anticipated, I suppose, at the time, we knew that there
was some press and media covering this.
We had no idea how big that that had become out in the world and this competition was
really followed very closely out in the mainstream media.
There was ultimately something like two billion media
impressions on this.
But I was only talking to Jenna on my satellite phone
and she was more or less keeping me pretty much protected
from the reality of that to just stay super focused on it.
And so the second, both him and I got back
to quote unquote the real world.
You know, we were both whisked off before we even went
to our homes, both of us flew to New York City
and we were on talk shows and we were on this and all of that.
Which in itself was, I guess, a humbling
and interesting experience, very bizarre,
having been a lone intent in Antarctica
for two months to be on the bright lights
of live television in Manhattan.
But more so to your point, those moments,
those couple of days that I waited for him,
I had these moments of reflection myself
and do a lot of writing that actually informed the writing
that was in my book and kind of this very pure place before being untouched by all the lasting questions
about the experience.
And then also, Lu and I were able in our couple days there
as well as several flights and things that took,
basically took about a week actually to unpack the logistics
to get us all the way back to South America.
Him and I were able to have a series of conversations
and meals and things just the two of us before
kind of being thrown back into the real world, which from a kind of assimilation of the
experience when I look back, I'm so grateful that I have that and that I didn't make the
choice, which would have been the easy choice just from the comfort level to say, give
me out of here.
I am freezing cold.
I'm tired.
My bones are sticking out. I of here. I am freezing cold. I'm tired. My bones are sticking out.
I'm hungry.
I need a shower.
I've been wearing the same pair of underwear for 55 days.
Like give me the egg out of here.
And making the choice to wait.
Ultimate was the best thing for just
assembling that as well as the ongoing friendship
and camaraderie that I feel towards Lou.
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It's such a do the right thing, move,
so congrats there.
All right, I want to jump to
something that I don't know that you see it this way, but I do. I keep seeing you jump into things as a rookie. And for me, leaving corporate America and becoming a rookie in the entrepreneur world,
being a rookie as an author, being a rookie as a TEDx speaker, all those things have been scary
for me. You've done all these things, you know, a decade earlier than I have. And not only did you acquire all the success on solo trips and buy yourself, but you jumped
in and became a rookie roer on a team with a team of people. And I'm so interested how
you felt mentally going from all these personal accomplishments now to jump into this rowing
space and never been done before yet again and having to rely on
all these people and showing up that you're the new guy
that everyone can count on is gonna do a great job.
Yeah, so after finishing the solo and Artica crossing,
of course, there's the inevitable question,
what's next, what's next, what's next?
And it's funny how that the world is like that,
no matter what someone does,
doesn't matter who you are. It's always like, okay, great, what's next? It required funny how that the world is like that, no matter what someone does, doesn't matter who you are.
It's always like, okay, great, what's next?
It required a little bit of thought for me to think about what was next, but one of my
biggest curiosities, and we touched on that earlier, is growth mindset.
It wasn't, for me, it was never, and I was always fascinated by an article in Ultimate,
the robot, I guess, did take me back to an article in a very different way, but it wasn't
like, oh, great, well now, I have this world-first accolade of crossing an
article in this way, is there another polar expedition that I can do?
That's like even harder or just a slight variant on this.
And look, I admire the people that have done that.
Someone like Captain Lou has done four or five major expeditions in Antarctica, and that's
the place
that he just wants to continue to do
and pull sleds in different ways with teams or whatever.
But I've always been fascinated to say,
can I take what I've learned in this expedition?
Basically, can any of us take what we have
in this moment and have learned our past experiences
and then apply them to a completely new medium?
Can you take your experience in the corporate world
and apply it to this new playing field of entrepreneurship,
right?
And so maybe the easier thing to do
would be to kind of replicate what I've done before
in a new, you know, sexy way or whatever.
But I thought, can I take a sport now
that I've literally never done?
And so this case it was rowing, ocean rowing.
I never wrote a boat like at a summer camp. I never
rode a boat, you know, you know, when I was in college,
or anything like that. And now I'm going to try to row a
boat. But now I'm going to try to row a boat across what's
known to be the most treacherous stretch of ocean in the
world, Drake Passage from the southern to the South
America to Antarctica. You know, you're talking icebergs,
freezing cold water, 40 foot waves, some of the worst storms
you ever see, the convergence of the southern ocean, the Atlantic, and the Pacific.
I mean, a brutal, brutal, brutal stretch of water, and going out there with no motor,
no sail, the only way to propel ourselves in this rowboat.
And then, overlay on top of that, which is, yes, I've done these other expeditions, not
just the Antarctica crossing, but my other previous world records, were all solo endeavors.
There were other people like Jenna, other partners who helped me out incrementally along the way,
but ultimately all those world records are,
Colin and Brady sets the record for X, Y, or Z.
And so it was like, can I do something that is a team project?
Now, the robot, the only way to move that robot
was to have six of us on this tiny little like 28 foot long,
you know, four foot wide robot that only sits a few feet
out of the water. If you look at it, you're like, that is going
to sink immediately away.
It hits it.
It's this tiny little thing.
And the cramped quarters of that, the teamwork, the risk associated with that, all these
things, you know, can we bring together a group of guys?
And ultimately, it was an amazing group of people, you know, all of which had, you know,
previous rowing experience,
certainly way more so than I did.
Not everyone had ocean rowing experience, but everyone had rowing experience.
I had never been on the ocean.
I had never been in the team environment, this intense.
I had never rode a boat before, and I set myself the goal to say, hey, I want to do this
at the highest level in a short period of time.
Now, the part that I do think is important to take from this
is it's not a, on the outside, it might look like a crazy pivot
or sort of a reckless thing.
Like I'm gonna just try to be like the new guy that's working this.
But I have a fundamental belief that we are often afraid
to do things that we've never done before.
However, we are actually closer to achieving them
than we might think based on our previous experience.
So if you line the resumes up with me and these other guys, or ultimately dear friends of mine,
incredible guys, you know, four different countries, three different continents, all these kind of
accolades and rowing, etc. But, you know, I was the only one that had done a really intense
expedition in Antarctica before. Someone who knows how to navigate cold, ultimately how does that,
you know, stack up an intellect, petition like this. Well, how does that stack up and end up in an expedition like this?
Well, you have to take care of yourself
in your physical mental health
over a long duration of time and extreme isolation.
Well, that's gonna happen on the robot.
Your nutrition has to be tied.
The logistics of preparing an expedition
that require the paperwork to get a boat
through the, you know, imported through the Panama Canal
into southern Chile, and to have all the paperwork
to go to Antarctica.
I mean, that doesn't, that's not the sexy part of expedition, but like that is a requirement
raising the money and the funding and the sponsorship.
Like it's like, oh, wait, yes, I do not have the skill of ocean rowing, but there's a whole
bunch of other skills right below the surface that I can apply to this new medium. And so for me, it was really fun to exercise this very new muscle, I suppose, but also
draw strength from the previous experience.
And what that means to me, and I think that hopefully, what that illuminates for others
is that although a leap into the unknown can be very scary. You also might be way more prepared for it
than you actually might think.
And the proof is, if you apply yourself for me,
I applied myself to learning rowing.
Yes, I had never rowed before,
but I've pushed myself as an athlete for years,
in years, in years, and know what it's like
to push my body and train for something or whatever.
So I was able to apply that and learn this new skill
by bringing in experts to teach me a lot of that.
Am I, the world's best, best, best,
rower of all time now?
Maybe, no, the answer is no.
Was I a part of a team and in a leadership role of this team
to become the first people and were we successful
in doing this?
Absolutely, yes.
And it was really fun project.
I got to give a little bit of a shout out.
We did this big television documentary around it for Discovery Channel
They there's a bunch of kind of short episodes of it online that you can check out on my Instagram
But there's also a feature-length documentary that's coming out on Discovery this fall
And so I've already just seen the rough cuts and stuff of it insane footage
Just drone footage of us approaching Antarctica and these crazy waves and all this. They couldn't give us any support or supplies or anything like that, but they were able to capture it
in a really credible way. So I'm kind of excited to share that with the world, uh,
steering ones that comes out. Yeah, I just watched all of the short videos on YouTube through the
discovery documentary or shorter version. It's unbelievable. It is so exciting. Words don't do it justice, and that's why I think it's really important
for everybody to check this out on Colin's Instagram or YouTube wherever,
because it doesn't do it.
No one understands how small that mode was,
and watching how it capsized and flip back and those waves.
So please check that out.
And one other thing I wanted to bring up about this story in particular,
Colin, that I really personally love,
because this is new for me, was your work that you did on visualization with the beginning of
that journey and you already seeing, celebrating with the guys and then actually in the end,
playing it out on tape and being able to see that.
Yeah, 100% you know, I've always, you know, I think that visualization is really powerful
I often say, obviously talk a lot about mindset and this conversation, but I love always, I think that visualization is really powerful. I often say, obviously talk a lot about mindset
in this conversation, but I love saying,
I think the most important muscle any of us has
is the six inches between our ears.
Obviously, these expeditions that I do require physical preparation,
but ultimately the mental preparation,
I think is so crucial in the execution phase,
in when the going gets tough and how to keep yourself motivated,
how to stay mentally sharp.
Meditation has been a huge part of my journey.
There's a number of different ways to exercise and flex that muscle, but you need to actually
develop that muscle of your mind.
But visualization certainly has been really key.
Like I said, just like when I have any plan for anything, I have the plan and then I know
that the plan is not exactly going to work, but I'm going to adapt to a evolve. But in my own, so in Artica Crossing, I had never been there before
obviously, but the other side of the continent was this post hammered into the ground. And
I had just known that, you know, basically from doing all my research and stuff like that.
And you know, exactly what this post measured in the ground is, but it's like a US survey
marker in the ground and that marked the edge of the continent at the beginning of the
ice shelf. And every single day in training and preparation, as well as during my crossing, I saw myself touching that post
and being like, I have crossed Antarctica and ultimately, you know, that came to fruition.
And so I applied the same methodology with this team environment, which is I knew that the teamwork was going to be such a crucial element to this crossing.
And for me, also success in growing this broader cross the ocean, as much as us and the six
of us crossing the ocean together and touching the edge of the continent is objectively
successful.
Success look to me like touching the edge of the continent with five new lifelong friends,
comrades,
basically teammates who we've gone through this together
and not being like, yeah, we did this together,
but like never speak to me again or something like that.
As you know, in hyper-intense team environments
can devolve in that situation.
But my visualization was not only crossing
and getting to that finish line
in each individually being proud,
but ultimately
saying, I was one sixth of a larger whole.
And here we are with our arms around each other, like, not I did this and I did this and
I did this, but six separate eyes.
But six of us collectively looking at it and say, we did this.
And so that was sort of my constant visualization.
And as you've seen from some of the discovery footage,
it's literally exactly as it happened,
as I wasn't scripted, obviously.
But we jump onto the shores of Antarctica
and we wrap our arms around each other.
And it's like, we freaking did this.
There's icebergs and penguins.
And we're all emaciated and exhausted and all the things.
But it was a beautiful thing.
And I think that there's a lot of power in that.
Maybe you can't visualize every single one of the dots
and how they connect moving forward, et cetera.
But when you set that business plan,
when you set an intention around whatever that goal
is, a personal goal, a professional goal,
I do think it's very powerful to draw in that visualization
of that outcome that you are really seeking.
And careful what you put into that visualization because, you know, careful what you put into that visualization
because, you know, dare to dream as greatly as you possibly want to
because I really believe that we can manifest and create those things
particularly when we have it, you know, hammered into our brain
and that's the, you know, obviously,
our energy and life force goes towards it.
Uh, Colin, I could talk to you forever,
but I'm already over time and I don't want Jen and Mad at me.
So tell everybody where can I find you? Come say hello.
I'm very active on Instagram.
That's probably my most active social media platform.
That's just my name at Colin O' Brady.
Share all my expeditions there.
I post pretty much every single day on there.
So definitely come say hello on there.
My website, colinobrady.com,
has all the information about booking me as a speaker,
information about my book,
which I really poured my heart and soul in and it's really, really proud of, came out
a few months ago, recently hit the New York Times best sellers list, it's called The Impossible
First from Fire to Ice Crossing in Articole Loan, definitely encourage you to check that
out, pick up a copy, drop me a note, when you read it, let me know your thing, if you don't
like reading, there's also an audio book that I narrate myself.
So yeah, check it out.
Appreciate it.
And really fun conversation.
Thanks for having me on.
Thank you so much, Colin.
Hey, Ty, we'll be right back.
I have to even try to find your passion.
I'm so happy you got to meet Colin.
I can't wait to hear what you think of him.
Please leave me comments on my posts
on social media, send me DMs.
I can't wait to hear what you think.
And I also want to know, what is your Everest?
What is your big, huge goal that you're going to commit to,
that you are going to go after?
I'll tell you for me, it was,
well, first it was me writing my first book, Confidence Creator,
which I'm super proud of, but I want to remind you,
there's mistakes in it, you know, done,
will always be better than perfect in my book.
Still so glad I freaking dead it.
I'm so proud of myself and going to work for myself.
I remember I used to say, I'm unemployed.
And then finally I had to say, I work for myself.
Like that was a huge leap.
So that was my Everest for a long time.
Then when COVID hit, it was changing my business and launching my mentoring program,
not knowing what I was doing, not having a website up, not being ready for it,
and just posting on social media. This is what I'm doing. This is what I'm offering.
Are you in? And I had the most amazing feedback from my May team.
And I wanted to talk to you a little bit about that. Now, the accomplishments that these people have had,
what they've done, I'm so flipping proud of them. And the friendships and relationships network and collaboration
that have grown out of this have been amazing. And that I did not forecast. I did not see.
I didn't know that was going to happen. Well, today I've been onboarding my new half of
my team from May signed up again for June. Half of my team for June is new. So I was talking to them
over the past couple of days and we have our team meeting tomorrow, our first team meeting and I was
letting them know you are a part of an amazing group of people who you can trust, who you are safe
with. These are people who are going to encourage you and challenge you to grow, who are there to
help you and cheer you on. And you can be your real self in front of them.
And a couple of our teammates in May, our last team meeting, revealed some huge personal
things with a team.
And it was a real breakthrough moment for them because I think one of the biggest ways
to claim your confidence is to step into your shame, to own your flaws, to step into your fear.
Write all these really scary hard things.
When you do it and you do it in front of people, it doesn't feel so scary anymore.
Then you walk away saying, actually feel pretty good.
I've seen this whole domino effect in the month of May where my team did that, individuals
did that, and them doing that elicited the same out of others.
And it was a really cool thing.
So I wanted to remind you, be so careful
who you surround yourself with.
Whether you're on my team or on someone else's,
pick good people to be around
that want to support you to push you to grow,
not hold you back.
And I saw it, I was so glad I didn't know
when the new team was coming on.
Oh gosh, I hope they're good people.
I hope they're like mine, did like us that they want to grow and push.
They all are.
I mean, everyone's very different, different background, different ethnicity, different ages,
different goals.
But there's that one commonality of good people that want to get to that next level, that
want to get to head and are willing to put the work in.
And to me, that's the key factor, that key thread across a team that needs to be there.
So look around your team, the people that you're spending your time with, and make sure they're
stretching you, make sure they're supporting you, challenging you to get to the next level,
but supporting you at the same time and picking you up on the days that you're down.
Those are the kind of teammates you want to be around, and the kind of teams you should be on. And if you are not fire those team members, fire your
villains, create boundaries for yourself, and start recruiting new teammates. Because anyone can do
it, I've seen it happen for me so many different times, and I'm so proud that I've built this new team
that came out of crisis and challenge and I'm
excited to see where it goes and I'm so excited for our meeting tomorrow to
welcome these new people into this amazing group and to see the accomplishments
that come out of this month. So if we can do it, you can do it too. Start creating
your confidence today, get a picture of what you're going to look like at the end
of the month of June in your mind, get clear picture of what you're going to look like at the end of the month of June
in your mind, get clear on it and put that picture somewhere and start taking steps every single day,
action steps that will get you to that point, action steps that will move you in your business
forward, start firing those villains, start speaking as if you're worthy because you are,
and one of the things I heard today, someone was saying, this is a stupid question,
I had that, I know this is going to be a dumb question. And I had to catch
this person and say, please don't say that anymore. And be self-aware. If you start speaking
negatively about yourself, that's how you're selling yourself to other people. They'll
follow suit. They're going to start saying the same things. So instead, let's speak really
highly and strongly and powerfully about ourselves so others can do the same.
And it's breaking some bad habits and implementing some new ones, which I know all of you can do,
because I've done it, and if I can do it, you can do it too. All right, can't wait to see you next week.
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