Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Confidence Classic: Discover The Courage Within YOURSELF To Follow Your Dreams, With Robin Arzón Vice President Of Fitness Programming & Head Instructor At Peloton
Episode Date: December 4, 2024In This Episode You Will Learn About: Living WITHOUT external validation The power of embracing your true self Self determination Advocating for yourself Resources: Website: www....robinarzon.com Read Strong Mama & Shut Up And Run Join The Swagger Society Email: TeamRobin@ethosgroup.io Instagram & Twitter: @robinnyc Facebook: @Robin Arzon Youtube: @rarzon Twitter: @SwaggerSociety Go to ConstantContact.com and start your FREE trial today. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/monahan Oracle is offering to halve your cloud bill if you switch to OCI See if you qualify at oracle.com/MONAHAN. Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at NetSuite.com/MONAHAN. Get 10% off your first Mitopure order at timeline.com/CONFIDENCE. Get 15% off your first order at jennikayne.com when you use code CONFIDENCE15 at checkout. Get 15% off your first order at oakessentials.com when you use code CONFIDENCE15 at checkout. Call my digital clone at 201-897-2553! Visit heathermonahan.com Reach out to me on Instagram & LinkedIn Sign up for my mailing list: heathermonahan.com/mailing-list/ Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Show Notes: Confidence is the side effect of all your hard work. YOU are the director of your own story, so instead of having fear, EMBRACE your true self! Here to demonstrate the POWER behind being your own, biggest cheerleader is Robin Arzón, VP of Fitness Programming and Head Instructor of Peloton. Robin will inspire us to step into our own identity and find confidence within ourselves, without needing validation from others. Remember, you are the author of your own story. You can accomplish ANYTHING you set your mind to!
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I think confidence is a side effect of hustle. I definitely had confidence
I think confidence is a side effect of hustle. I definitely had confidence growing up in certain areas.
I see, I got an A on this test,
so I must be good at XYZ.
There's the external validation points which only go so far.
When I realized my ability to be
my own inner advocate was through movement.
That was when I realized that I am the director of this story. And that was really
terrifying and exciting at the same time. And the confidence that now really buttresses most areas
of my life, it's a side effect of the hustle. Come on this journey with me. Each week when you
join me, we are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity, and set you up for a better tomorrow.
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Meet a different guest each week.
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I'm so excited for you to meet my guest today.
It's Robin Arzon, Vice President of Fitness Programming
and Head Instructor at Peloton,
New York Times bestselling author.
And wait till you hear the other things
this woman is up to.
She is a superwoman.
Robin discovered her passion for athletics
after healing from a traumatic experience through movement.
She fearlessly left behind a successful law career
to embark on a new adventure known as Peloton.
What?
She believes that sweat transforms lives
and her story is living proof.
Today, Robin has run 27 marathons.
Yes, I've run none.
And several ultra-marathons,
including five marathons in five days.
This is insane.
Her life's mission is to redefine, reform,
and rethink possibility through movement,
which she is doing every day.
Her powerful influence and undeniable swagger
transcend the fitness space with major brands,
partnerships, collaborations, and the intersection of wellness, lifestyle, and fashion, including
GSTQ. Robin's first children's book, Strong Mama, was written as a love letter to her daughter,
Athena, about the journey they took together. I can't wait to get into it. And just one more
thing. In 2020, Robin was named one of the most influential people on Fortune magazine's 40 under 40. Unbelievable. 2021 became the first ever recipient
of Glamour magazine's Daring to Disrupt. And today, right now, the cover girl of Women's
Health magazine, Robin, welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me. What an intro. I have to bring you everywhere to kind of be
a hype woman. That was really great.
I'm totally your hype woman.
Listen, for a long time in my career,
my listeners know this.
I did not have women that would hype me up.
They would, for whatever their reasons were,
they wanted me to dim my light.
They didn't want to celebrate things for me.
And I used to think that was just the norm
until I got out of that corporate environment,
which I'm interested to find out that's similar for you.
But then once you get around people that are for you and cheering you on, it's such a great feeling.
And it just lets everybody say, oh, wait, when I shine my light, I'm inspiring someone else to shine theirs.
Thank you. And that's what you're doing for us today.
No, thank you. Thanks for having me.
Oh, my gosh. Wait. So I do have to ask you this. Did you years ago ever think to yourself,
yeah, for sure one day I'll be on the cover
of a major magazine?
You know, it was a dream.
It was definitely a dream.
Not when I was a lawyer, but I didn't imagine,
I didn't really aspire to be on the cover
of like the Bar Association magazine.
But sure, I mean, it was a dream of mine.
And it's really, it's kind of funny when
you realize dreams that you kind of only wrote in your journal privately, you know, years and
years later, I still have a little bit of disbelief. I think that's normal. I mean, that anytime
something big happens to me, I feel the same way. Like, is this, am I getting punked? I always
think Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out of some somewhere and be like, no, you are getting punked. That
was hilarious, but you definitely are not. All right, let's get into it. Cause I love
your backstory. So many people, you know, I'm a Peloton rider, just like I'm sure so
many people listening. And when they see you on the bike and see you, you know, you're
leading this huge company and, and you're blowing up. Everyone thinks, oh my gosh, of
course that's so easy for her.
And I wanna get into how it hasn't been so easy for you.
And I was so surprised in doing research on you
that you grew up with immigrant parents
and were performing incredibly well academically
and really immersed in this academia world,
which seems nothing like what you're doing now.
What was it like back then for you? I was always the straight A student.
I was the kid who loved like, I just loved books.
And my mom really modeled that for me.
My mom and my dad, my dad was a law professor.
My mom is a physician.
And the school was kind of the easier part.
What I realized later was the story.
I told myself the story that I was the straight
A student. I didn't tell myself the story that I could throw a ball or go to gym class.
And so that physical activity and movement was really kind of scary to me. And it's clearly
I pivoted and iterated a lot for the life I've created for myself now. But I think the
larger message is
that we really can become the stories
that we tell ourselves.
And now I'm really aware of the story that I tell myself
and then in engaging with my daughter, Athena,
kind of watching how I storytell around her experience
because once we're kind of labeled
or even label ourselves as something or are
reticent to own a label.
When I started running, I started running when I was in law school.
And for the longest time I was doing 10 case, half marathons, marathons.
I was like, Oh, I'm not a runner.
A runner is this or that.
A runner is a five minute mile.
A runner has been doing this for 20 years.
So stepping into our various identities, I think,
can be really, really powerful. And then also being aware of the stories that we're telling
ourselves. But yeah, I had examples in my parents, my mother Cuban, my father born in
Puerto Rico and raised in the Bronx. And they really modeled for me self-determination.
Oh, well, that has come through crystal clear.
I appreciate you sharing that because I
definitely have told myself so many limiting stories.
I've accepted labels and held onto them and had to
get really clear in making a conscious effort to say,
I'm not going to allow me to label myself this anymore.
I'm going to drop this label like you did with
the academics and step into something so different.
What was that moment like,
or that experience like that you went through
that really created that pivot in your life
when you decided to step away from law and academia
and branch into something completely different?
Well, there were lots of moments, I think.
I don't think for most people,
sometimes there's one aha moment,
but I think that we get thousands of signs
and we choose to see them or not.
So the reason I started running is because I had
a pretty intense trauma occur when I was a senior at NYU,
entering law school the following year,
I had already been accepted to law school.
And I mean, I was held at gunpoint
in the East Village in New York City
when I was meeting girlfriends on a Friday night after work. Just, you know, New York City in the summer can have
like a magical feeling to it. And it was one of those nights that was that until it very much
wasn't. And I was sitting in this wine bar and a man walked in and he was flailing a gun. And in
a matter of minutes, I went from telling my girlfriend about, you know,
probably the crush I had at the time
to being a hostage negotiator with the NYPD who were outside.
And time slows down, you become,
that was actually one of the moments
where I became really aware of story.
Like not in the moment,
but when I reflect back on that experience, my internal
narrative was very focused, but it was very loud. And I just kept telling myself, this
is not the end of my story. Like this is not like no freaking way is this it. So there's
a fight. I believe in every, every, every one of us, there's the fight innate to the
human spirit that I hold on
to till this day.
So that was a moment of powerlessness, for sure, and trauma, acute trauma.
And over the years, I have been able to repackage that story as a source of strength.
And I think that in a lot of our life's inflection points,
we always have a choice whether we're gonna be a victim
to the circumstance or we're gonna be victorious
no matter what the circumstance is.
And so, when I survived that experience, I thought,
okay, am I gonna just be someone who survived that?
Or am I now gonna thrive?
Because like, damn, I'm here.
Like, I'm here for a reason.
So let's go.
And it took a while,
of course, for me to process all of that. I mean, I'm still to a certain extent, processing a lot
of that, but running helped me so much. I started running when I was in law school. So about the
year after this hostage incident, and I don't even know why, like I said, as a kid, I was not an
athlete. Like I really wasn't surrounded by runners. My mom's not a runner. I mean, I was a runner now, funnily enough, after having me,
supporting me in marathons, but I wasn't surrounded by it, is my point. And I just saw a pair of dusty
shoes that weren't even running shoes in my closet. And I thought, I'm just going to jog, walk,
nearly crawl to campus today on my way to law school. And I just started getting curious
and really uncomfortable, but curious.
And it provided me like a different focus.
I had a lot of pain that I was carrying
and I wasn't even aware of it.
Highly ambitious, multifaceted, multi-hyphenate people
can just like get it done, but should we always have to,
you know, with that heavy burden.
And it was through the runs that I really started to use movement as medicine.
And at that point in time, were you thinking, okay, this is a calling for me?
Or at that point in time, you were just trying to escape the pain and try to grow through that?
Yeah, definitely grow. I mean, I practiced law for almost eight years. So I had a full
law career as a corporate litigator. And like I said, it
wasn't one aha moment. I think there were like lots of little moments where I was being
called to something else.
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You might not know this about me.
I had one aha moment that changed my whole life.
Nothing like the PTSD situation that you had, which I can't even fathom. So grateful that you moment that changed my whole life. Nothing like the PTSD situation that
you had, which I can't even fathom. So grateful that you were able to get through that. I was
fired when I was in the C-suite in corporate America. And that was the moment I said, okay,
I'm going a completely different route. And to your point, there was lots of signs along the way
in the background, but nothing that called to me like that moment. Since you didn't have a moment like that, how did you find the courage to, you were stepping away from a career you're very
successful in, you weren't fired, you were doing great, but you had this trajectory that was clearly
set out in front of you, you had all of this time behind you that you had invested in the education
and whatnot to get to that point, and your family, I would imagine, was signed up for that program that you were in.
How did you find that courage to step out
and say, I'm gonna do something completely different?
Yeah, I mean, it's tough,
especially when you have the external pressures
and when you have quote unquote the dream job and the drink,
you know, it was all like young in New York city
with an amazing income.
I mean, my God, I had never seen that much money in my life.
You know, it was just unbelievable. Those are really difficult conversations to have with yourself.
The hardest conversation always starts with yourself. Like you think it might be,
oh, with your partner or your mom or your kid or your boss. The first conversation that
you have to have is with yourself or the many conversations. So that's how it was for me.
Once I started getting curious about, I was like, wow, I'm really passionate about this fitness thing. I don't know how the heck I'm going to
do this. But at first I was like, I'm just really passionate as a hobby. And then I realized,
huh, maybe there's a way for me to monetize this. Can I pay my rent? I don't know.
Nicole Zilberbourg So I started a 10 minute a day dreaming exercise. I sent a calendar appointment
for 10 minutes every single day.
And oftentimes I would journal, I would Google,
I'd be like, what does an editor at Women's Health do?
You know, like, and funnily enough, now I'm on the cover,
but like, those are the things that I just,
I just got curious.
And there were some days where I just sat pen to paper
and I was like, this is so stupid.
I should just go to my next meeting or I should just,
you know, and I just, I tried to develop a stickiness to that 10 minutes a day. And it really was 10 minutes day for like two years.
And I planted seeds. And then when I got a little bolder, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to send
somebody an email, or I'm going to like, you know, ask somebody to meet me for lunch, you know, and
those were obviously the bigger asks. And I was told no a lot, but I was told yes too. And the yeses were enough to kind of feel my fire.
And then ultimately I left my law firm two weeks
before the London Olympics because I had an opportunity
to kind of showcase my experience as a blogger,
I guess on social media.
And some brands were paying attention
like big athletic brands.
And I thought, okay, this is my opportunity.
Like I have no idea what is going to be next, but this might be a scaffold to something else.
So I took a chance and the risk was felt really massive.
It was massive, but I knew who I wanted to feel in my day to day.
I wanted freedom. I wanted agency.
I wanted the feeling I have when I'm, you know,
in a workout or talking about a workout.
And I knew that those were the values
and the standards I had to set for myself,
even if I potentially disappointed some folks.
And ultimately my immediate family
was incredibly supportive.
There were definitely some doubters,
but I think I turned their doubt into determination.
You turned their doubt into something
I'm sure they don't wanna remember anymore
that they gave you any shade on what you were doing.
Everybody listening right now, this is brilliant.
It might sound simplistic,
but setting that reminder for 10 minutes a day
and investigating is brilliant.
I remember 15 years ago, I loved speaking, but I didn't know people got paid for
it. I would get off stages and say, I feel like magic. Oh, well, I have to go back to work now.
And I never thought like you did, Hey, maybe I could investigate this a little bit. I think
that's brilliant. And for anyone who isn't sure, hasn't found your passion yet, when you are
feeling great, take that 10 minutes. And it took Robin two years, don't give up after a month. I
just, I love that you did that. It's so simple yet so incredibly powerful. So now the opportunity
comes up for Peloton and Peloton was not what Peloton is today. How did you know to take a
chance on a brand that wasn't omnipresent like Peloton is now? I love vision boarding. I do vision boards a few times a year.
And on my vision board in my little business work quadrant, I think the majority of the vision board was probably business at that point, because I was voraciously searching for ways to pay my rent.
I thought I wanted to story tell. And I wanted something that felt
modernly disruptive. And I didn't know that meant disruptive. I didn't know that meant technology.
I didn't know what that meant,
but I thought I want to make waves and I want to do it in a way that is scalable.
I was teaching spin in a local New York City spin studio at the time,
in addition to writing my book,
in addition to coaching runners.
I was doing it all at that time.
I thought I need to scale this.
I want to light people up more than 20 people at a time.
And then I read a blurb about then CEO John Foley.
And I thought, oh, wow, this is it.
This is it.
And I don't think I would have even been aware or paying attention if I hadn't done that
vision board because it kind of
piqued my interest. And then I sent a cold email to the company and I was totally, I
mean, really literally cold. They had no idea who I was. They did not approach me. I approached
them and I think I sent that email like late on a Monday night. By Wednesday, I had an
audition where I play some songs and
they, I demonstrate my teaching style and things like that. And then I was leaving the following
week for India to visit my sister who was living in India at the time. And I said, I have 72 hours.
So if you want me and you want me when I'm back in two weeks, I need a contract now. So I had a
contract in my hands before I got on that plane. Oh, I love that you called it out like that. That is so bad ass and good for you because they saw
that you created a sense of urgency, right? It's scarcity. What if you moved on to do something
else and you knew your worth? And when you know your worth, other people are going to see it as
well. So congrats. I love how you handled that. That is so incredible. Okay. When you did sign
with them, did you have this vision and was this on the vision board
that you knew this brand was gonna blow up
or you were just working towards
how can I keep growing this?
You know, definitely, I mean, the team then and now
has really ambitious goals.
I love it that we are, you know, we're dreamers who hustle
and I really align myself in every relationship,
business relationship,
and honestly personal relationship that I have,
there's an element of hustle and there's an element of grit.
And that's one of the reasons I love GSTQ
and I love Danny Garcia,
because that is definitely part of their value system
and certainly Pelotons, right? And there were high in the sky goals, some of them we've realized, and
then we can, we keep building, we keep building. Like, I want to constantly live a life that
is redefining possibilities. And in my toolkit, I call it a superhero toolkit, I've added,
you know, breathwork, journaling, vision boarding, movement, of course.
And then I now get to share that with the world on a global platform.
And when it was, we still have the same grit, honestly, that we had when it was like 10
people on the leaderboard, now that there's over 10,000 on an average class or something
like that.
So you have to anchor yourself in values and real talk
and have people who are trusted critics
who are willing to tell you like,
hey, let's have a feedback loop here.
Like, let's see, let's kind of break this down
so we can build it back up even stronger.
And then also continue to dream so big
that it makes small minds uncomfortable.
Like I say kind of in jest, but not really, that my dreams wake me up before my alarm clock goes off. Like I'm ready and I'm so intoxicated
by my dreams. The moment that I don't feel that, I know that I have to keep thinking bigger.
Oh my gosh, it comes across so clearly in your energy. Like you can feel it, everyone can feel
it. So it's so real. And it's just,
it's so exciting to be around a couple of things that I want to highlight that you said
one that you're surrounded by people at work that have that same mindset that you do. Everybody's
going for more. Everybody's pushing themselves so critical who you're spending your time
with at work day in and day out will affect the way that you're thinking for sure. And
I wanted to highlight again, the vision boarding because I actually don't vision board. I know so
many people that do. Can you talk us through what that
process looks like for you?
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I was an arts and crafts kid. So I
love like I will like I like the pen and paper. I'm sure there's
tons of virtual apps and ways to do this on your phone or on
your computer. I literally will cut up things from magazines and
newspapers. Sometimes I'll of course I'll print stuff, you know,
if I want something really specific,
but I usually do it in quadrants.
So it'll be like personal life, business,
it might be physical health.
I was, you know, I bought an apartment
with my husband two years ago.
So they were part of the recent quadrants have been like,
you know, money we want to invest in our home
and renovations and things like that.
And really it's just dreaming.
It's like putting specificity in visual form and in words, so you can kind of
focus your dreams a little bit.
I always say you have to name it to claim it.
So I find that vision boards helped me create a pretty picture, but then it's
kind of crystallizing a little bit more what I said I
wanted and now what I think I want. And they change. And I look at old vision boards and I'm like,
yeah, I thought I wanted that. You know, so you have to give yourself freedom to play and freedom
to evolve, right? You are under no obligation to remain who you were just because it makes
somebody else uncomfortable. Oh, that's so good. And so incredibly true. Okay, I love that you are doing the vision boarding.
You're inspiring me to start doing it.
How did you get into, you just kind of glazed over,
I was writing my first book.
To me, that is like a major, yet again, right?
You went from law and then you were moving
into the fitness industry and then you're writing a book.
How did you make that leap and why did you wanna do that?
Well, I was noticing, I really wrote the book that I needed. I feel like a lot of the art
that we create, a lot of the businesses that we start are because we need that we needed ourselves.
And I didn't feel like there was actionable training that was kind of talking to me,
someone who didn't grow up an athlete, someone who wasn't a five minute mile, someone who didn't, you know, I didn't even necessarily look like folks at races. You know, I would
show up in like red lipstick, cat eye, four finger gold rings, like chains. I mean, it
was just like, I'm a rock how I am. I'm going to look good for victory as me. And shut up
and run really was, I wanted to marry like practical advice. Like I will get you to the
5k finish line. I will get you all the way up to a 50 mile finish line
actually, which is pretty unusual for running manuals.
And I wanted to infuse my story.
So not just, not only my story of surviving trauma,
but also, you know, as a Latina,
as someone who believes that we can approach all stages,
all chapters of our story with swagger, authenticity, and
then also give folks permission to do that on their own terms, like redefine success,
redefine what a quote runner with a capital R looks like or feels like or speaks like
or walks like or dresses like or runs like. There's an abundance of information out there.
So I kind of wanted to distill it
into something that was pretty straightforward
but honestly, swaggy.
I mean, you literally needed to be in that
run like a girl campaign.
If always is listening, they need to reach out to you
immediately, let's redo the campaign.
Okay, so where does your confidence come from
in your opinion across, I mean, all of these big moments
and all these big leaps you take
and showing up with the red lipstick. Where do you find that confidence within you?
I think confidence is a side effect of hustle. I definitely had confidence growing up in
certain areas, right? It's like, oh, I see, I got an A on this test. So I must be good
at XYZ. There's the external validation points, which only go so far. When I realized my ability to be my own inner advocate was through movement.
It was when I started lacing up for the marathon training.
It was when I started lifting weights.
It was when I started, you know, even slowing down in some regards, you know, doing yoga
breath work.
That was when I realized that I am like the director of this story.
And that was really terrifying and exciting at the same time.
And the confidence that now really like buttresses like most areas of my life.
I mean, of course, there are things that I'm just like, oh, gosh, terrible at that.
But it's a side effect of the hustle.
And to put it simply, you know, like if I'm this morning, I was doing like barbell work,
hang power cleans, and I hit like the heaviest weight I've ever done on a hang power clean.
It's like you can't tell me none.
Like if you don't think I'm gonna ask for 10% more on that contract, you are delusional.
You know, like that gives me the confidence that has, and then I have more patience with
my daughter.
I can model things for her in every way. It's the workout is so much more than the 20, 30, 45 minutes, 60 minutes
that you put into the workout. It's how are you going to remember who you are in the other 23
hours a day? And I believe I always wake up with an invisible crown on my head and it's like chin
up, crown on always. Oh, I love that so much. How do you not get burnt out?
Like I'm exhausted thinking about what you're, what you were just describing
your workout.
I just go spin, right?
I do my spin class and I'm done.
But how do you do all of this in a day and not feel exhausted or not get burnt out?
Burnout is very real, you know, and as high, you know, it's, I delight in being
high functioning and I, and I, and I surround myself
with folks like that too. I have a feeling you do too. So we have to be aware and I'm glad that
it's more part of the conversation, right? It's like all the work that Ariana Huffington has done,
all the work. I mean, it's just part of now our, our working culture to be aware of burnout. But
I also think that I kind of feel like hustle gets a bad rap now because it's like
you absolutely should still be working your ass off, but you should also be prioritizing
the conversation with yourself enough to know what your boundaries are.
Because you cannot set standards for yourself or someone else if you do not know what your
boundaries are.
Establishing boundaries creates higher standards, higher standards makes us all money and success, period. So the red line thing is goes back to basics.
I have a very basic but consistent way I eat, way I sleep, I do breath work for a few minutes.
And you know, it's not always perfect, but it usually some semblance of that gets done.
The sleep hygiene thing is really important.
And listen, I know I have a young daughter, like I know that you can't always, you know,
you plan, plan, plan and life just happens.
But most of the time, are you doing your best to fill your own cup?
Because the energy that you have is ultimately currency.
And when you're working in elements of teams, right?
And it's like, everybody's charging together,
everybody's like burnt out together.
You can do that for a period of time, right?
Like if you're getting ready for launch,
if you're really doing the thing, okay.
But zoom out a little bit and ask yourself,
is this sustainable for six months? Is
this sustainable for a year? Probably not much more than that in really quarter cell filled
environments. So you have to establish and plan. Self-care is a prevention strategy. Self-care is
not what you turn to when you're at your wit's end. It's what allows for that escape valve. It
allows the pressure out a little bit of the balloon before the balloon pops.
So the framework of our home is the health and wellness of my husband and myself,
because nothing else gets done well or intentionally if we don't take care of ourselves.
So it's scheduling my workout, scheduling his workout, delegating where we need to,
you know, making sure that we have good food in the fridge
that makes us fuel amazingly
and gives us the energy that ultimately becomes currency.
So it's all the little things that we already know.
It's like drink a glass of water and eat a vegetable, honey.
Like we've been telling you all this,
but when we're in those moments of crisis,
it's hard to make the best choice.
Oh, thanks for highlighting this
because last night I was in the worst mood
because I had to get up at three in the morning
to drive my son to school today for a school trip
and I was just so frustrated about it.
And I ordered Mexican food and ate so much,
like as if I was punishing somebody else
and I couldn't fall asleep and I felt sick.
And I was like, why did I just do this?
Do you ever have moments like that
where you come off the rails or no?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
I mean, that's some human, right? Like it's,
and I think that you have to give yourself grace when that happens. Like it's like,
okay, indulge in the, in the movie, like buy the thing, like don't give yourself so much grief,
but I try to often think about future Robin. Like how can I, and I try to think of her like,
like a friend because then I think there's
more effect, it's hard to befriend yourself.
We're really, we're easier on our external relationships than we are internally.
I make every effort to befriend myself.
And I think about Future Robin and I'm like, damn girl, what do you need?
Like, what is it that is really going to set you up to feel at the end of the day
that when your head hits that pillow, like, gosh, I did that. That exhalation that yes comes from
fatigue also comes from pride. And I live for that exhalation. So hell yeah, of course. I have days,
sometimes weekends, entire weekends where I'll go off the rails. I try not to let it go on for more
than two days. So it's like, if you're skipping the workout, if you're doing the thing, if you're grabbing
for the food that you're not supposed to grab, put a 48-hour lock on that, maybe even 24 hours,
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I ask you to try to find your passion.
You were pregnant and decided to start writing a book
about the importance of working out while pregnant,
knowing that there's a lot of people out there
that have their own opinions or whatever.
I am like you, I worked out the entire time
that I was pregnant and it saved me.
What inspired you to write that book?
Oh, well, so Strong Mama was really,
it was a love letter to my little training partner
who was my baby and
my baby in Euro at the time. And I wanted to send a message actually that centered the
caregiver. Most kids books do not center the parents. Parents are superheroes. Like raising
small humans is an Olympic sport. And I know that now. But you know, during pregnancy, I wanted to, you know, the
two values that we really try to live and espouse in our home are that movement is medicine
and that self care is not selfish. And those those are the two messages of the book that
I wanted to make, of course, like appropriately, agerelated, you know, age-appropriate, but also fun and
center a pregnant woman, like show a pregnant woman in a book doing badass things, because
it happens all the time. And that is the reality of many people's experiences. And I wanted
to really highlight and showcase that and then have a touchstone for parents to revisit
these concepts, maybe when time is getting hard
or a child is saying, but why are you leaving?
It's a go do this thing.
Why are you marathon training right now?
And it's like, let's revisit this.
And then even better, the ultimate goal is of course for young folks to have their own
relationship with these concepts and figure out like, gosh, what do I do when I'm feeling
crummy?
Like, how do I move my body in ways that allow me to feel more powerful?
And that actually ends up opening up things for future books and stuff.
But that was where my head was at when I wrote Strong Mama.
Well, I'm grateful you wrote that book because I remember when I was pregnant getting a lot
of flack for I was running a lot during my pregnancy and people would give me a really hard time about the
health and safety of my child. And it's almost like your book gives people permission.
And oftentimes when you're new, you're going to be a new parent. It's nice to have someone giving
you that permission that's been there and did it and was successful at it. And it's nice because
then you can begin to model that behavior and know that you're not alone, even if
you don't have those people in your life, you know, it's that
it's like that community that you're building for these
people to give them that permission. So I'm so grateful
that you did that. I just wish you had done it 15 years ago, so
I could have read it.
Thank you for paving the way for pregnant athletes. And it's I
find it so frustrating. And honestly, I think that the
paradigm is shifting a little bit. I hope it is. And I find it so frustrating. And honestly, I think that the paradigm is shifting a little bit.
I hope it is.
But I still got, I got FLAC II, you know?
It's like, you know, I'm teaching eight months pregnant
at Peloton and I was physically capable of doing it.
I felt really strong.
I felt great, thank goodness.
But I just wanna invite less judgment and more curiosity
about what we're capable of.
And instead of asking, what can I do? What can I do? What can
I do? Focus on what can you do? It's a whole lot. You can do a whole lot. So focus on what you can
do and use that to prop you up. I love that line, less judgment, more curiosity, because
here's what I've learned is the more you're judging other people, the more you're actually judging yourself, even though you don't know it in the moment, it's hurting you. So instead
approaching it from a place of curiosity, Oh, I wonder how that works for her. You know, that's
interesting. I had never thought about that. You know, I wonder what that feels like, or, or, you
know, how that makes her feel. That is such a powerful shift that everybody should deploy in
their life, no matter what.
Because the minute you stop judging people, that's also the same minute you take others off a pedestal.
That's also the same minute you see yourself as an equal to everyone.
And to me, that's what this life is all about, that we all are equals.
And in fact, let's be there to cheer each other on instead of trying to strip each other down.
So thank you for that. So tell me one one of the things I'd like that you did,
you approach fitness from a prior business law experience.
So you're very different than the typical,
what you would think, a typical instructor.
And that's why I love that you're looking at this business
that you're building from the books, from the brand
and from leading as the VP of the brand.
And then also through brand partnerships.
Can you tell us a little bit
about how that happened, that evolved?
So I kind of look at it as like,
I'm the center of the wheel,
then there are spokes of the wheel,
and like one of them is Peloton,
one of them is my book writing,
one of them is entrepreneurial things.
And then the brand relationships
that I have developed over the years
with stuff that I'm naturally interested in, right?
Like I love fashion.
So GSTQ was an obvious partner for me when I approach
or whether it's something like I'm a vegan athlete.
So I partnered with a company, Athletic Greens,
and I ended up investing in that company
and investing in Venus's plant protein line, Viking,
Happy Viking.
So those are natural extensions of how I live my life.
I don't really believe in practicing what you preach.
I want to preach what I practice and then I want brands that do that as well.
That is always the internal gut check that I'm doing with my team.
I now have agents at WME and a PR team.
When we're discussing this stuff,
it's like I would never,
first of all, I have to use the product and genuinely love it.
But also the messaging has to make sense.
Right? Like I'm never just going to sign a deal just because the dollars are nice. In fact,
I say no to most things. But when things like GSTQ... So my relationship with Dani started a
few years ago. Dani Garcia started GSTQ and GSTQ's event was actually one of the first events I went
to after having Thena and when the world started opening up again after COVID. And she had a launch event for her brand,
for her fashion line in New York City.
And I just went as a fan and an admirer of Dani
and the clothes were so dope.
I literally came home and I ordered like
half the collection.
And then GSDQ reached out to my team and was like,
hey, we wanna work together.
And this is like the ideal scenario where it's like, Hey, I already spent my own money on the clothes. Of course
I'm happy to be paid, you know, to wear them now. It's interesting because I always say
I traded my suits for spandex when I left law. And now it's such a treat to be able
to like rock a blazer and a crop top with like some sporty trap pants that are like
elevated with platform.
It's like I can now mix.
I thought I had to park that part of my identity because I was like,
okay, well, this is what a fitness instructor looks like,
or this is what somebody in fitness looks like.
It was like, no, I can do it my own way.
Whether I'm rocking a red carpet or whether I'm going to teach a class,
I might have one foot in one world of high fashion and one foot in the other,
and I make it my own. And that's definitely what the GSTQ message is all about.
And the clothes are just beautiful. I literally feel like I could work out in the blazers. That's
how comfortable they are. I did like 10 hours in DC the other day. It was a Fast and Furious trip.
I got to go to the White House with this group, Buenavistas, a nonpartisan group that was there doing amazing work.
And literally got on the train that morning in the GSTQ suit
and like 14 hours later stumbled into the door wearing the same GSTQ suit.
Oh, honey, I still look good.
I love it.
Well, Robin, with so much going on and literally your star is shining so bright, you're exploding.
What is next for me?
What are you looking forward to next?
I want to continue creating platforms that allow people to step into their own power
and become self-sustaining fire starters.
Whether it's approaching self-care with intention and boundary setting, or, you know, one of the projects I'm most excited about right now
is the creation of the first health
and wellness club in Web3.
I founded Swagger Society a few weeks ago,
and we are gonna be minting NFTs in early 2023,
and it's gonna be a self-actualization Swagger Society.
It's like, if you wanna be surrounded by folks
who want more for themselves,
who want to have conversations that light you up
and have an environment where thousand or less folks,
it's going to be a small, very curated community,
are really there for each other, engaging in conversation,
having book clubs, early access
to all of the things I'm working on.
That's really, I'm going gonna hold space for people's power
and for them to broker connections
and really midwife each other's dreams.
Oh, so beautiful.
Community is so important now more than ever
after everybody had been isolated for so long.
I love that you are doing this for everyone.
Where can everyone find you?
Where can they get the book?
Where can they catch up with you?
I am Rabin Arson and you can find me at robinadson.com.
I am on social media as Robin Adeson, RobinNYC on Twitter.
And you can follow Swagger Society as well on Twitter.
And that's where you're gonna find news
about my web three projects.
And of course I'm at Peloton,
head instructor teaching there many times a week.
She's the most motivating instructor you will ever take.
Definitely catch a class.
Robin, thank you so much for all the good that you're doing.
Keep it up.
We are here cheering you on.
Thank you all so much.
Great to see you, Heather.
Guys, until next week, keep creating your confidence.
I'm going to make it all over again.
I decided to change that dynamic.
And then my family.
I couldn't be more excited for what you're going to hear.
Start learning and growing.
Inevitably something will happen.
No one succeeds alone.
You don't stop and look around once in a while.
You could miss it.
I'm on this journey with me.