Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Confidence Classic: The Power To Decide and Build a Life You Love with Ally Love
Episode Date: June 4, 2025What if your entire life changed at nine years old and you had to decide whether or not to fight for your future? In this episode, I sit down with Ally, the powerhouse CEO of Love Squad, Peloton Instr...uctor, and Brooklyn Nets Host, to talk about what it really means to decide. Ally shares the life-threatening accident that shaped her mindset forever, and how choosing to fight for herself ignited a life of purpose, leadership, and massive impact. Tune in to learn how one bold decision can change everything. In This Episode You Will Learn Why deciding is the first step to becoming who you're meant to be. How Ally Love turned trauma into leadership, confidence, and clarity. The mindset behind building a brand rooted in authenticity. What it takes to lead with purpose. How to make your platform a place for others to rise with you. Resources + Links Learn more about Ally HERE! Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/monahan Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at NetSuite.com/MONAHAN. Want to do more and spend less like Uber, 8x8, and Databricks Mosaic? Take a free test drive of OCI at oracle.com/MONAHAN. Get 10% off your first Mitopure order at timeline.com/CONFIDENCE. Get 15% off your first order when you use code CONFIDENCE15 at checkout at jennikayne.com. Call my digital clone at 201-897-2553! Visit heathermonahan.com Sign up for my mailing list: heathermonahan.com/mailing-list/ Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Follow Heather on Instagram & LinkedIn Ally on Instagram & Twitter
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If you feel like you're in the dark because of those things,
all I want you to imagine is that if you turned on the light
in this dark room that you're in,
the reality of the situation is that there will be people
standing shoulder to shoulder with you
because you're not alone in this discomfort.
You're not alone in your uncertainty.
You're not alone in this turmoil that you're going through
in this emotional space that you're in.
And while our emotions and our stories may be different
and uniquely ours, you are not alone in the fact
that you still have to confront those things
and deal with those things.
I'm on this journey with me.
Each week when you join me,
we are going to chase down our goals,
overcome adversity and set you up for a better tomorrow.
Faster than your speed.
I'm ready for my close-up.
Hi, and welcome back.
I so appreciate you being here with me today.
Oh my gosh, so much to tell you.
So first I have to tell you about my episode today
and my guest and what happened off air
because it was, this is actually the second time
I've cried in the last year since I've
had a podcast. I'm not a big crier. Early on in my corporate America career and I
was in sales leadership, I would see people make mistakes, right? I would see
them cry and get frustrated and wear their emotions on their sleeve. I started
to observe those people would only reach a certain level. They wouldn't go beyond
that level because their emotions had the better of them.
They didn't have control of their emotions.
So I used to say to myself,
I played baseball as a kid, softball as I got older,
and I've always loved baseball.
And I just used to always say,
there is no crying in baseball.
So no matter how upset I would get in corporate America,
which was very freaking upset,
you have no idea the jack balls I worked with,
I would get really, really upset and stress was piling on and I would go into the
ladies room and breathe or I'd walk outside or I'd go for a ride in my car.
Anything to get myself out of the situation, control and calm myself, and
then re-engage when I was in control of my emotions. So saying that I cried twice,
the first time was when I recorded Flip Flippin,
who I absolutely freaking love.
And if you haven't heard that episode,
go back and listen to it.
It's all about your third story,
the story that you're telling yourself
and how you can change it,
cause it's a lie.
I love that freaking story.
I love that episode.
I love that man.
He's awesome. So anyhow, that was the first time I cried that freaking story. I love that episode. I love that man, he's awesome.
So anyhow, that was the first time I cried.
Okay, so fast forward to now,
I found out about Allie Love a little over a year ago.
It was at my friend Christina's house in Atlanta.
She had a Peloton.
We didn't have anyone to watch the kids
so we couldn't go exercise out of the house.
And she said, oh, just go upstairs and do a Peloton ride,
which I did.
And she said, take an Allie love class.
Allie has this real warmth and positive energy
and inclusive message.
She's a black woman.
She's young, she's gorgeous,
but there's something about her that people trust
and are drawn to and I was, right?
So I didn't have a Peloton at the time,
but when the pandemic hit,
I ordered a Peloton and the ones and twos
and got that thing in here so fast
and had a huge blow up with my building
because I didn't have a reservation for the elevator
and that's policy and the woman downstairs
was trying to forbid the Peloton people
to bring the bike in.
I lost my mind, occasionally I I do that and I called the head
of the building and said it is a pandemic and this is life and death situations and I need
some type of exercise while I am quarantined in my small condo and they they let it up. Okay so
that was the good news got the Peloton in for the win and truly during quarantine when for a couple months we weren't able to leave the house at all that was the only exercise, got the Peloton in for the win. And truly during quarantine for a couple months,
we weren't able to leave the house at all.
That was the only exercise I got.
And it was a saving grace for me
because it transported me out of here
to a different place where I wasn't alone.
I had my son here with me, but I wasn't the only adult.
And, you know, seeing someone else,
their face right on my screen talking to me.
Oh my gosh, I loved that.
It was a game changer lifesaver for me.
So I always knew I wanted to have my favorite instructors on the show,
but hadn't I had reached out a few times and hadn't her back like anything.
You know, when I hear crickets, I might wait a little bit,
but I'm going to pivot and come back after you.
So I came back after Ali Love.
She connected me to the Peloton team.
They scheduled her.
And today we have her on the show.
Now that is not why I cried. So I had researched Ali a lot outside of Peloton the same way I would
any anyone that I interview. I read their books. I listen to their TED Talks. Whatever their thing
is I'm all over it for hours and hours to prep and make sure I'm prepared for the interview. So I just consumed so much of Ali's content, her TED Talks awesome, it's really short,
seven minutes, it's really good and she killed it.
I went through so many different interviews that she's done and was just so blown away
by her story.
Also, I didn't know she's going to share something really powerful with us today and she only
just recently started talking about it and something that happened to her
when she was nine years old.
So you know, she's being very vulnerable.
And I know how scary that can be.
Well being a white woman that's interviewing a black woman right now in the current situation
in the world, I felt vulnerable. I also felt it was my job and duty to show up and ask her
what her thoughts are, how she's leading, how she's leading
as a Peloton instructor, as a black woman in this environment
we're in.
I didn't know how to word it, and I really hadn't been
thinking about that because the more I would think about it,
I got scared, right?
Scared because here's the thing, people are judging other people.
People are hating on other people.
I've gotten some really nasty messages.
If you don't post something fast enough, you're wrong.
If you post something too fast and didn't do it right, you're wrong.
If you didn't use the right hashtag, you're wrong.
If you weren't vocal enough, you're wrong.
And those are the kinds of things that I'm getting.
And I know some really large influencers that have deleted Instagram pages,
paused posting because the amount of attack they're getting is massive.
I'm not here to weigh in on if it's warranted with some of these people.
Listen, some of these people, if anyone's racist, then I get it.
You know, I do not tolerate racism.
However, it's just there's a lot of hatred out there right now. There's. However, it's just, there's a lot of hatred
out there right now, there's a lot of attack right now,
and there's a lot of judging.
And frankly, there's a lot of ignorance too,
and that's what my fear was, was that I would be ignorant.
I didn't wanna be ignorant.
And that's what I kept thinking about,
is that if I say it the wrong way, I'm ignorant.
I was afraid, I didn't wanna do it wrong,
and I didn't know the right way to do it,
because for me, I haven't done it before.
Up until this point, I've just posted things online.
And every time I post something,
I either get someone hating what I posted
or telling me they could have done it better.
You know, it's not right.
And so I know that I'm in a judgment zone.
And that's, you know, a little uncomfortable, right?
And it's a little, a little scary.
And this is different because it's live
and there's no editing
and there's just conversation and two people.
And while I follow Ali and know a lot about her
and feel like I know her, it's not like we've ever hung out
and, you know, gone on a trip together.
So my vibe is that I really feel she's so inclusive.
So I thought, you know what, if I'm going to do this,
this is a really good person to do it with she's, she comes from a place of love. And I feel like if you come from a place of love, there can't be hate. So I hadn't thought about it a lot, because that's sort of my strategy. I'll share this with you when I have a super busy day, which I did today, and I'm back to back all day long, and I have my son here. And you know, he's stuck inside all day, and I have to cook for him. And I have to do all these meetings or I get to I should reframe that I get to I'm so blessed to have my son
and so grateful for that, however in the olden days he'd be at camp and
I take him there at 9 and he gets picked up at 5 and he plays sports all day and
All as well and I get my job done, but it's different now. So everything's different now, right? So anyhow, I
What I do is I try not to get too focused on the thing ahead of me.
I just focus on the situation I'm in,
otherwise I'd get overwhelmed.
So that's kind of my strategy.
And I wasn't thinking about the complexity
of what my concerns were and that I didn't wanna be ignorant
and that I didn't wanna say the wrong thing
and that my intent is good.
And I know my intent is good, but sometimes it doesn't matter, right?
In the world, sometimes words get twisted or people hear something different or you
didn't say something right and mistakes get made.
And so I was scared.
So we get on the call and I said to Ali, it's the same thing I usually say to most people.
I said, is there anything you don't want to talk about today?
Is anything off limits? And she said, no, I trust you. And so that made me feel
really happy. Right. So I said, okay, all right, great. So we do the whole interview,
which you're going to hear in a minute. And if I'd ever stopped talking, right. And so
at the end, I asked her about the, what I said, I believe I said racial unrest.
I think that's the words I use.
I don't know.
I didn't write anything down.
I didn't, you know, script something out.
I'd never script anything out, by the way, for the show.
I do my work, but I don't believe in scripts.
So I think I said racial unrest.
Now, I was nervous.
I wonder if you'll hear my voice.
I'm super interested to hear if you do,
but I also really trust Allie and feel she's inclusive
and feel she comes from a place of love.
So I was willing to take that risk.
And I felt it was the right thing to do.
How could I talk to her and not address this?
That to me is sheepish and there's no place for that.
I would rather have an imperfect conversation
where I mess up some words and maybe I don't
do things right, but my intent is right and my heart is good and I'm mean for good.
And if people know me and are in a conversation with me, then that's felt.
That's how I led in this uncertain conversation.
So I did not say it correctly and I knew it once it came out of my mouth. However, I will say this woman handled herself with extreme poise
and explained in a really beautiful way how I could say it moving forward.
And she said, you know, it's not racial unrest, it's Black Lives Matter.
And you'll hear Ali explain it.
But it wasn't attacking. I wasn't offended.
She taught me something, you know,
something really powerful so that I don't have to feel
ignorant or uncertain moving forward that I have verbiage
and words that I can use that are better, right?
That's the only way we get better sometimes
is making mistakes.
And I was so grateful she didn't attack me.
And I was grateful she understood I was coming from
a place of good. And I was grateful grateful she didn't attack me. I was grateful she understood I was coming from a place of good.
And I was grateful she included me.
And she talked a lot about, you're not alone.
You're not alone.
And that, oh, it touched my heart so much I could cry again right now.
So we finished the interview, which you're going to hear in a minute if I ever stop talking.
And I pressed stop recording.
And I thanked her. I said, listen, I am so
grateful that you just explained that to me and I know my words were wrong and thank you
for not attacking me and thank you for explaining it beautifully and thank you for being that
kind and loving and inclusive you because I didn't do it right.
Oh gosh, this is so hard for me.
And she was amazing.
She didn't have her camera on, you know, which I get sometimes you don't want to get ready
for every show or whatever and you have other things going on.
That's fine.
But she turned her camera on right away because I started crying.
And she said, listen to me, I am so glad and grateful
you did have the conversation.
And she said, the conversation needs to be had.
This is all about having the conversation.
It doesn't have to be the perfect one.
It just has to be had.
That's a start.
That's somewhere to begin.
And I just, I lost it.
I was bawling.
It was very emotional.
I even feel emotional right now explaining it to you because I was scared.
And I'm in unchartered water and I, just like all of us are, right?
It's not just me. It was scary and I didn't want to be, I didn't want to be ignorant.
That was my big thing. I didn't want to hurt anyone.
I didn't want to be ignorant. I didn't want to say the wrong things when I wanted to say the right things.
And you know what? I didn't say the right things and I still feel really proud that
I did it.
And that's because she comforted me.
She, you know, here she is.
She's the one saying it's okay.
And you know what, and she, she's a true leader.
And she's so freaking young.
I'm just so, I'm impressed.
I'm so inspired by her.
She's a total boss. And I just felt so grateful because, ironically,
one of my mentees had sent me an email while I was doing the interview.
I get off and I go to my email to respond back to people,
and I see an email from one of my mentees, and it said something to the effect of,
Heather, I've got a team meeting tomorrow with all my employees.
You know, he's got a sizable company.
And he said, we haven't had a team meeting in over a month,
and I don't know what to do.
Do I bring up the racial situation in the US right now,
or is it best just not to say anything?
No one's brought it up to me, you know,
kind of like sort of how I was sitting there myself
before I interviewed Ali, like, listen, this is on the table.
I've got to address it, but I don't know the words to say.
He didn't know the words to say.
And I was so grateful.
I just had that conversation because I responded to him.
You absolutely have to bring it up and there aren't right or perfect words.
And you're going to make mistakes, but it's about leading with courage
that you have the right intent.
And I explained to him what Ali said to me.
I didn't use the right words, but she was so grateful that I used words.
So an imperfect conversation will always be better than none.
And I feel so good sharing that feedback from her.
And I felt really good encouraging him to have the conversation tomorrow, which he is
going to.
And I can't wait to hear how imperfectly perfect it goes.
But I'm proud of him for coming from a place of good
and not having the answers and doing it anyway.
So now, turning it over to this interview,
which I think is amazing.
And I think you're going to as well.
We meet a different guest each week.
Welcome to Turn It Up, confidence creator.
Hi, and welcome back. We meet a different guest each week. Hey, Dr. Terri! Confidence, please.
Hi, and welcome back.
I'm so excited for you to meet my guest today.
She's a model.
She's a host.
She's a speaker.
She's a TEDx speaker, which you know I'm so passionate about.
She's a Peloton instructor, a social media influencer,
a brand ambassador, and she's CEO and
founder of The Love Squad. Allie Love, thank you so much for being here today.
Thank you so much for having me Heather. I'm so excited to chat with you. I'm
excited to chat with you too. There's so much about you Allie that to me it's so
important to amplify your voice and your message right now and really at the core of that is your inclusivity which I feel every class
that I take whenever I see your social media posts and I know that you've
created this community that people feel accepted empowered and motivated with
the message that you have around positivity and including others and I
first I want to thank you for that
because it's so important right now that everybody hears it.
Oh, thank you.
I tend to get that question interesting enough.
It's like, how are you the most positive person?
And a short answer, I'm not.
I'm just like everyone else.
And that level of inclusivity is all encompassing
and understanding that we are all maybe different
in regards, but all uniquely
the same. We all want to be better and be better versions of ourselves. And so I think
for me, it's as much as possible, evening the playing fields and knowing and letting
everyone know that you're always invited and you always have a seat at the table I'm sitting
at. Well, that's nice to hear because these days it doesn't always feel that way. So thank
you for putting that out there. One of the things that I wanted to start with today
is when people see you, people create a story in their mind,
right?
Oh, this woman's so beautiful and she's so fit
and she can do things I can't.
Of course she can be positive.
I mean, her life is so perfect.
She's on Good Morning America.
She's doing this and that.
And as I've researched you and learned so much about you,
I know, and I want everyone to know,
your life has been faced with incredible challenges
beginning as early as nine.
And I was hoping you could share with us that adversity
and what you did to overcome it.
Absolutely.
I will preempt this by saying social media
is a really
tiny aperture to what real life looks like, right?
It's a curated space.
So is anything that's usually on TV.
You have makeup on.
You have your best outfit.
All of these things are curated opportunities.
And not to say that they're not important, because they are.
We use these platforms to share stories, to share information.
But sometimes what ends up happening is that the story gets dismissed a bit, and it's more
of the optics.
And so I just wanted to preempt that, preempt what my story I'm about to share with that,
because I think it's really important, again, this concept of being approachable and relatable
is really true to who I am.
At nine years old, I got hit by a car.
I was at a family gathering, and, you know, as a family family we usually on the weekends do family barbecues and celebrate and just enjoy
each other's time and so I was at a family gathering. I went to the ice cream
truck to get some ice cream like any fun ready-to-eat ice cream nine-year-old is
and then I was walking across the street in a car which was parked on the side
drove around and hit me. I ended up flying up in the air landing on the
hood of the car rolling to the side. I broke my and hit me. I ended up flying up in the air, landing on the hood of the car,
rolling to the side.
I broke my left femur.
I cracked a lot of my front teeth, and I skinned my body up.
I was in the hospital for seven days.
Five of those seven days, I had a weight tied to my ankle
to keep the bone, my femur bone, separated,
because at the age of nine, there was no plate for my hip,
because your femur is basically your hip.
It's the largest bone in your body.
And most times people who break their hips,
they're a little older.
So it was very rare that a nine-year-old
would come into the hospital in an emergency
with a broken hip.
And so that was the case.
And I had to wait for five days
until they created a plate
and then shipped it from China
so that I could have surgery. And now during this time I can tell you it wasn't easy and I could
not imagine what my family was going through because as an adult now I don't
have kids I do have nieces and nephews I can only imagine how challenging, how
heart-wrenching, and how emotional that could be for any parent. What ended up
happening was that experience,
however traumatic it was, was a turning point in my life,
even at nine years old.
And I will be transparent, Heather,
and say I haven't actually shared this story quite a bit.
I only recently started talking about it
since we've been in this pandemic,
so the further past two and a half months.
And it's been coming up because while you are in your home
and you're thinking about life or death
because we're hit with COVID-19,
a lot of self-awareness started to really play a role
in the work that I was doing for myself.
And so this story started to really manifest.
And, you know, I've talked about it with my mom quite a bit,
but it was this moment where she was standing next to me
and she had just finished talking to the doctor
and she said, you know, she was honest.
She said, it's not looking good.
And you have a decision to make.
Now, the question that she was honest. She said, it's not looking good and you have a decision to make.
Now, the question that she asked me at that time,
I don't know if I'd have the courage to ask a nine-year-old,
let alone a nine-year-old that was my daughter.
But she asked me, she said, you have a choice
and you can either choose to live
and if you choose to live, you have to fight,
you have to fight relentlessly, you have to fight hard
or you can choose to die.
And if you choose to die, we support you.
We know that it's not easy.
And she was like, if you choose life, you have to pray to God and you have to fight.
You make that decision and you let us know.
And it was one of those things again, that was odd as I think about it in the past, she
gave me some time in the hospital, she like went down, took a walk, came back, and we
kind of picked up on the conversation.
And after me praying, I grew up very religious. My family's religious. After praying, I let her know, I was like,
you know what? I want to live. I want to fight. And it was that opportunity that my mom afforded me
the responsibility to decide about my own life that was the turning point for me.
And I started fighting. And I keep saying this often, it's like, in that moment of choosing to fight for my life, I've never stopped. And it's not like a woe is me story, but it was the turning point for me. And I started fighting and I keep saying this often, it's like in that moment of choosing
to fight for my life, I've never stopped.
And it's not like a woe is me story, but it was that turning point that said, you know
what, I understand what close to death feels like.
I know what it feels like to be in a hospital room for a very long time, not sure when you
would get out in a sense, because we weren't sure when the plate was going to be finished.
And I know what it feels like to make a decision about yourself and so ever since
that moment I sincerely have always decided to decide I've never just idly
said you know I'm not gonna make a decision because not making a decision
is making a decision and so I've been decisive in where I go knowing that
there are consequences on both sides but that has played a big role in what my life has ended, the path into which I've taken over the years.
Wow.
I am a mother with a 13-year-old, and I just, I have so much empathy for all of you, your
entire family going through that.
I can't, I can't imagine.
And so proud of you and, and of your mom.
When you got back home, so you, you were not mobile, you're laying in a bed, and so proud of you and of your mom. When you got back home, so you were not mobile,
you're laying in a bed, and the rest of the world
went back to regular life, but you didn't get to, right?
Not at all.
I mean, at that point, I had a cast
that covered my entire stomach all the way down to my foot.
So it was a half of a body cast,
and I had a hospital bed in my living room so we had
to read, you know, with any child that's injured, you usually have to make some adjustments
to how you're living.
And so we had to make some major adjustments.
I was homeschooled.
I had physical therapy.
Once the cast, the cast had to come off in parts.
That's how big it was.
So, you know, it was like having this, this part, the entire cast on for six weeks and
then having a quarter of the, you a quarter of it removed around the ankle,
and then at the knee, and then at the waist.
So it was one of those things where I probably had a cast
for about five months on, but it was removed in parts.
And during that time, I can say that it definitely tested
my relationship with my mom because I was going through
a lot of pain and she was there with me
while I was homeschooling and going through physical therapy but it was one of those times
where it really was again not only a turning point in me deciding around my
life but it was a turning point in solidifying a solid foundation between
my mother and I and it's not easy as you say you have a 13 year old when you get
to pre-teens it gets even harder emotionally and then teens and so I
think we went through all of the pre-teen,
teen emotions when I was nine years old
because I was in the house with her.
She would take me outside to get some sun.
We lived in Miami, so we'd go in our backyard,
and it was awful because she'd have me laying out there,
and my cast was sweating, and I would be annoyed by her.
And so we had a lot of the tough conversations early on,
and it really put us in a great place
to become close friends. Obviously, she's my mom and we're family, but it really put us in a great place to become close friends.
Obviously she's my mom and her family,
but it's put us in a position even to this day
to become the closest of friends.
You know, I was watching an interview
that you did recently and hearing you describe
looking out the window and watching other kids go to school,
watching them come home from school,
watching them live their lives
while you were stuck in the house with your mother,
not having the most enjoyable time.
And listening to you talk about that really related to me
around the pandemic, around quarantine
and how many of us feel looking out a window.
I happen to live in a building.
So going out of the building often has not been
part of the program while we're in the quarantine
because you run into people in the halls
and in your building.
And I just, I really related to that feeling
that you would have looking outside the window
and reevaluating when this is over,
what different changes will I make?
Was that part of the way that you were thinking
is how can I reengage when this is over?
It was almost as if you're acknowledging,
you're witnessing everyone move about and you're static
and you feel like you're not doing enough.
Even as a young kid, you're not playing enough.
You're not going to school.
You know, you're just not doing enough.
It put me in a position where I started feeling like, yeah, I had FOMO, a fear of missing out.
I was missing out on so much. But it did help put in perspective, don't take things for granted.
And the same thing with quarantine. Often enough, and interesting that you bring this up,
we had a big, in our four-year, we had a big window that looked out Yes into our front yard and in our front yard was as far away was like a sidewalk
and so I'd see everyone going to school in the morning and I'd stand there in that window and it just reminded me never to
Take anything anything for granted and that was one of the reasons why I end up becoming a dancer because the doctor after physical therapy
Let my mom know, you know manager expectations. She may walk with a limp
She probably will have arthritis when she's in high school and she'll probably never become a runner or be very athletic.
So manager expectations.
And so knowing this information and actually going through this everyday wide same in front
of this window and see life happening before me, I decided I wasn't going to take anything
for granted and I didn't want anyone to decide who and what I could do but me, but me and
God. And so I decided, yeah, I'm gonna start running.
I'm gonna start walking, I'm gonna start dancing.
So I started doing these things
and really learning how to do them.
And eventually I became a dancer.
That's why I moved to New York City is to pursue dance.
And when I came to New York City, I ended up going to,
I got a scholarship to go to Fordham University
and get a bachelor's in fine arts
through the Alvin Ailey program
and minor in theology.
And still during that time in college, we used to have Florida ceiling windows.
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and pretty cathartic in a way of acknowledging that I wouldn't take this for granted.
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to move away from home, go to school,
use my body at that point to really convey messages
in a big city that I always loved.
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while we have been in pandemic and I have calls, I have meetings,
and I look out of the window at everything that's going on.
It's just a great reminder, again,
not to take things for granted.
It truly is, and it is a challenge sometimes
not to have that FOMO, that what is going on out there,
but to refocus it to, we have so much to be grateful for,
regardless of wherever we are right now,
so I appreciate that
perspective. From deciding to become a dancer and overcoming all of these odds, how does your
trajectory change and evolve? It's such a non-traditional path and that interests me
because it isn't simplistic or it doesn't seem like it would be simplistic to go from all the challenges you had to a dancer,
to a host in the NBA, to a Peloton instructor,
to a business owner, to someone teaching others
how to build businesses.
How does all of that unfold?
Did you ever know it was unfolding?
Short answer, no.
But longer answer, it ended up unfolding
in one specific way.
I always say that you find your career one of two ways.
Either you've known since you were a kid
that you were gonna do this
and nothing has deterred you from that path,
or you lean into people telling you what you're good at.
And so I knew that I could do a lot more than dance.
And the reality, to be completely candid
with everyone who's listening,
many of us know what it means
to either graduate high school or college,
or just venture out into adulthood. and you have to make a decision. You have
to either follow a love, a pursuit or passion, or you got to make money to survive. At the
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to go to San Francisco in Canada and work with these professional companies. What I
realized is that I wouldn't be able to sustain or afford living in New York once I graduated.
And I didn't want to quote unquote become a starving artist.
And the reason is because honestly,
my family wouldn't be able to bail me out or help me.
So I didn't have any cushion.
And so what ended up happening was around my senior year,
I decided to go in to become a model.
I was like, what are my other assets that I could use?
And for lack of a better word, exploit in a way
to make sure that I am using every talent God has given me.
I remember my mom telling me this story
and I'm gonna butcher it in the Bible of just like,
this man was given one talent, he buried it.
This man was given two talents, he used it and multiplies.
This man was given whatever talents.
And it's like the more of that story
of being given talents is that if you hide your talents, then they die, they fall away.
But if you utilize them, they grow, they multiply.
And so I knew that that was a possibility.
If I could defy almost dying and coming out to be a dancer
and move to the best city in, I would say,
this is a personal opinion, the best city in the world,
one of the best cities in the world, New York,
and pursue that passion, I knew that I could use and leverage other skill sets. There was more
that I could offer. And so I started modeling, which put me in a position financially to
be able to afford a house with an apartment with one roommate instead of three. And then
from modeling, I knew I saw that there were girls that were a little older than me, but
similar hosting. They were doing, you know, New York one and the taxicabs and all of these
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I loved it.
And New York, everyone has so many interesting stories.
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I leaned into, even with anything,
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to figure out what you don't know.
So that's what I did.
I started taking hosting classes
and I started going on, I started, you know, Googling New York hosting auditions, anything until I got an
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Where does that motivation and that boss-up come from?
So many people would have stopped with, okay, I become a dancer,
I become a model, I become a speaker and a host.
So many people would plateau there
and be just fine with that.
How and why did you add a TED Talk to it,
become a Peloton instructor, start working with brands?
Where does that push come from?
So it's actually the story of Love Squad.
It's all of this, and I know those of you that are listening,
this sounds so, it might sound so good to you, but it comes with a lot of no's. It came with a lot
of no's and it definitely came with a lot of heartache and quote unquote failure, right? These
things, these lessons. But it was one of the reasons why I boss up or hustle hard or any tagline or any
quotable message you want to put in front of that is because it was basically out of frustration
and a lack of resources.
As young woman, as a young mixed woman,
as a young black woman in New York City,
it's not easy, you know?
It's not easy wanting to make more of yourself,
especially when you don't have a clear path.
I think I look at my life kind of like how Sheryl Sandberg
talks about moving around in a company in her book,
Lean In, it's a jungle gym.
It's not just vertical.
It's a jungle gym that you're moving.
And that's kind of how I look at my career,
being a part of this slash generation.
People are dynamic, women are dynamic.
We are dynamic and we're multi-dimensional, multifaceted.
And it's one of those things to say,
you have more than one passion most times,
you have more than one skillset you can offer.
And so I wanted to make sure
that I was going down the right path
and the only way to do that was to pursue these areas
that I was curious about.
And so in those moments of hard times,
in this concept of an unconventional career path,
this frustration and lack of resources didn't always afford me the opportunity
to be in rooms where decisions were being made,
or to be in places where I could network
and find my fairy god mentor mother or whatever.
Like, I wasn't able to do those things.
And so what I decided to do once I got a little older,
past 21, was offer the information back.
I know, and I come back to what I said to you, Heather,
when we first started talking, is there's no difference
between me and anyone that's listening.
No matter how old you are, how young you are,
where you live, in terms of what we desire
for ourselves and for our family.
We are all uniquely different.
I do identify that.
I would be remiss if we didn't say that,
but we are all uniquely the same
in wanting to be our better versions of ourselves
or be our best selves or continue to help
be a citizen of our community and continue
to do things fairly and just and equally.
And those are all of our desires for the most part.
And so knowing that I didn't want any,
if I got to, you know, from point A to point B
and it took me three hours and I can offer insight
to someone who is either curious to get from point point A to point B I can offer them insight that
will shorten that time and they get there in 90 minutes why wouldn't I do
that and so that's when I created love squad I was like you know all the
information that I it may not be much but everything that I know right now or
have learned I'd love to share with someone so they have to get frustrated
or they don't have to pay for it.
Knowledge is very expensive.
Information is expensive.
And so I created Love Squad out of, again, a sheer frustration and lack of resources
to say, hey, everyone come out.
It was like, it started out as a website.
Adidas found the website.
It was really crappy website to be completely transparent.
Adidas found it, asked if I would create some content for their site.
I was definitely
emailed back like I think you got the wrong person because this is not good stuff and they were like
no we want you to create some some content and from there I decided to continue pursuing this
quote-unquote blog that I had and it was about the time I was talking to a friend and she's like you
need to invite people out and at this time I only had about 3,000 followers on my Instagram and I had and not to say that wasn't a lot I mean that's still a lot of people
following you so I was very grateful but I'm not sure all those people were
interested in meeting me. At this point I think I was hosting for the Brooklynettes
and I decided to do a little event partner with a space in New York City
and invite anyone who wanted to come out it was gonna be a free event 50 spots
because you know New York we don't have that much space.
50 spots, and what ended up happening,
which was the aha moment around Love Squad,
is what ended up happening was I opened the eVite,
and within 15 seconds, 50 spots were taken,
and 75 people were on the wait list.
And now this event was going to encompass a workout,
and then a panel discussion between me and one of my friends.
I invited my friend, I was like,
girl, can you work for me for free
and she said yes she's great and so it was basically the conversation part that
people start sticking around for. I just shared information on how I built a
website, how I started building a brand, where Love Squad came from, how I
auditioned, just offering some simple tricks and tips to help the community
and from there I just decided to continue to pursue that.
So I guess, again, long answer to your question
is unconventional, absolutely,
but frustration and lack of resources
really were my driving points to say,
I think I'm worth it and I think I can do it,
and I wanna do this for my family.
And so that's what I'm doing.
It's amazing.
And I love the analogy of the jungle gym
because for myself being in corporate
America for 20 plus years, I always thought careers were so linear and it was just supposed
to be that way.
I don't even know if anyone ever verbalized that to me or that's just what I saw or understood.
But this idea that you had to be in one lane and there was a goal at the end of the lane
and I just love this idea of busting up the lanes
and taking your talents wherever they go.
Have you ever felt through any of these journeys
as you moved to a different role or added
or leverage your talents for a new opportunity,
oh, this one's just not a right fit for me,
ooh, I'm not good at this one,
I'm gonna pivot and dump that one and step away from it?
I think that what ended up happening
is like you kind of make those tough decisions that you do have to leave.
So I remember being a NYX City dancer and I've been a NYX City dancer for three seasons and
I had a conversation with my boyfriend Andrew, who's still my boyfriend now, and we were talking about
should I stay a fourth season? So if I say being a NYX City dancer was affording me that visibility,
I love being a part of the team. This was my entry point to the NBA because right after this I started
hosting for the Nets. And so we talked about progress. Identifying what progress looks like
to you as an individual is really what drives this decision of leaving or moving on or making
a change. And so he asked me what progress looked like and I told him and he said, do you think that
that can happen where you are in terms of being on the team?
And I said, it was highly unlikely. And so he said, well,
that drives your decision. It seems like you should leave.
And it was very uncomfortable because I was like, okay, this makes sense,
but it just doesn't feel good. Like no one wants to leave.
And at that time I didn't have anything lined up, right? Like I was like, Oh,
okay, I'm just going to leave this job.
And so I ended up really trusting him
and in terms of like his feedback and I left.
And what ended up happening was
it actually shaped my adult career in a sense.
I spent three months at home quite a bit.
And instead of, I realized there was a difference
between being busy and being productive in this three months.
Being busy is like, yeah, my Instagram story is lit,
but I haven't done anything to add value to my long-term goal
or even to figure out what that long-term goal was
or even short-term goal.
And so I had a lot of, again, that self-awareness,
that self-discovery started to happen.
I ended up starting hosting.
That's when I started taking hosting classes.
That was the time I said, you know what, let me explore this.
I started by doing on-camera work.
I was like, let me just go take a class to see how to get better on camera because I'm going on castings
with my modeling agency that were for commercials and I had no clue. And again, all this may sound
glamorous, but when you're getting a no every time you go to a commercial casting, you're like,
yeah, well, maybe this is telling me I don't got it. I don't have it. But the reality was,
it's not that I wasn't good enough, it's just I wasn't prepared.
I wasn't at that point.
And so using those three months, I started taking classes, really going in for it.
And honestly, what ended up happening, I sent an email out to all the people that were in
my Gmail account at that time.
And I said, I am a host.
I called myself a host.
No one did, but I did.
After taking like, you know, three months of classes, and I will host your kids' baby
birthday party, your baby shower, your charity event.
I will host for free for experience.
And it was literally at this point, Heather, that one of my friends who worked for the Brooklyn Nets,
they had just moved to Brooklyn, she was like, hey, you've been a part of the NBA,
maybe you could be our host.
And I came in for an interview and I was super honest.
I was like, hey, no skills here.
I do know how the NBA works.
I know the game, I know basketball, and, no skills here. I do know how the NBA works. I know the
game. I know basketball and end up happening where they offered
me the job. And if I hadn't had that conversation with my
boyfriend, Andrew, at the time of making the decision, it
wasn't me just on a whim saying I'm done with this or it doesn't
make me feel good. No, it was literally like, what does
progress identify what progress looks like for you? Is that
allowed in the space that you're in at the company that you're in? Is it
opportunity? If it's not, then that kind of answers your question and it makes
you make those tough decisions. So that was a story that highlights I had to
make that decision. It was uncomfortable. I probably felt like I wasn't ready, but
I did it and it led me to now I've been a host of the Brooklynettes for seven
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that I have ever had, it's an organization that I love,
I've grown there, I mean, I have learned things
that I don't think I could ever learn
because in hosting you gotta do it in real time.
You're so good at it too, you're real in everything,
I looked at it, it's really very impressive
and I appreciate that you invested in yourself
and took the classes, you put the time
and you offered your services for free at first.
I think a lot of people want to leapfrog that window
and not do it and that's where the hard work
and experience comes from.
I also love that you called yourself a host
before anyone else called you one.
That resonates with me so much.
I remember when I got fired and left corporate America,
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I got fired.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I was already writing a book.
I already knew I was going to work for myself.
But to make that leap and start saying to people, oh, I work for myself.
I'm an entrepreneur.
I'm an author.
To actually put it out to the world was super, super scary.
So I'm so proud of you that you did that before anyone called you a host, you called yourself one.
I seriously applaud that because I believe
when you do put things out to the universe,
you will start connecting dots
and opportunities will start lining up for you.
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So from there, and you brought this up when you were just sharing that story, you were
talking about the importance of these bigger picture goals.
What does that look like for you right now?
What are those grandiose goals for you?
I actually never put too much pressure on myself to figure that out or have that answer
right away.
Like many of us, we're in a position where if we
try to map out what the next 10 years looks like, we'd probably fail because we never know we'd be
here. What we had mapped out for 2020 did not look like this. That is probably a unanimous quote for
everyone where you're just like, I didn't expect it to look like this. So for me, what I end up doing
is a short-term goal.
I want to continue on the paths that I'm in.
I love being a Peloton instructor.
I love our community.
I love being able, and that also too didn't come,
that wasn't something that I thought I'd be either.
I never wanted to be an instructor
because I didn't think that I was going to ever be good
at that or that I had anything to offer in that area.
So that's what I mean is that even becoming a Peloton, or that I had anything to offer in that area. So that's what I mean,
is that even becoming a Peloton instructor,
if I had put myself in a position
when I became the host of the Brooklynettes,
to look at five years, set a five-year goal,
and a 10-year goal, I would have sold myself short,
because one of the best things that had ever happened to me
was becoming a Peloton instructor.
So for me right now, I stay true to that.
I think I do wanna stay in the lane of live on camera, scripted, unscripted TV.
I love motivational positivity.
I love how tos because again, if I can get you from point A to point B, it took me three
hours but it only takes you 90 minutes.
I want to be able to offer that or at least connect the dots to someone who can get you
that information.
So be a conduit through the conversation for that.
I know that again, these are the things that I love to do.
What they will look like in the next five years, 10 years,
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than my mind.
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be fluid because flexibility has a breaking point.
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what is right now, but also I wanna be pretty diligent
in what I have going on.
So I'm dedicated to Love Squad,
to hosting for the Brooklynettes,
Ditas Global Ambassador, being a Peloton instructor.
As I continue to pursue those fields
because I can identify progress in all of those areas,
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So you bring a Peloton, and that's actually how I found you a little over a year ago.
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house with her family in Atlanta,
and we wanted to work out,
and there wasn't anyone to watch the kids,
and she said, just go upstairs and ride the Peloton,
and I said, well, who do I take for a class?
She said, well, Ali Love.
And, yeah, she's a huge fan, and still is.
And so that was my first experience with Peloton.
What was interesting is fast-forward months.
I always took classes in a location.
I love being around people and I love the energy of leaving my home and working out
somewhere.
This is pre-pandemic, obviously.
When I was seeing the news the first week of March and seeing that there was a potential
that we were going to be hit with this pandemic, I got online and I bought my Peloton with a rush delivery
and it literally came four days
before we were put on quarantine.
That bike, I have to tell you,
that bike, you, Alex, Cody, I mean, you guys saved me.
It is unbelievable how that bike and the community,
the high fives,
the music, the messaging that you give and share
in your rides, how uplifting that was.
I wonder for you being on the other end,
being responsible and in the leadership role,
knowing so many people are tuning into you
as a lifeline stuck at home,
what was that experience like for you?
Well, first I want to say thank you so much to your friend
for suggesting me.
I appreciate it.
It never gets old.
And thank you, I mean, on behalf of my colleagues.
We have definitely the best instructors in the world.
And I always say it's because of their level of humanity
that just sets them apart.
I love, love, love my fellow instructors.
But in terms of now
being at home, what ended up happening was with the pandemic and everything happening with COVID,
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studio in front of my door. They packaged everything up, sent it to some of our homes
who had the space, and we were able to set up a studio
and be able to stream content live from home.
And I think one of our members made a really good statement.
They were like, are you really socially distancing?
And if so, how are you doing it?
Because you usually have 25,000 people
live in your living room.
And I thought that was so funny,
and I thought it was a clear,
clear kind of like a picture of what's going on. But Peloton is uniquely positioned in
the intersectionality of media, of technology, of fitness. And the real, I say, engine for us is our
community, is our humanity, is the fact that we understand that while we didn't know, I mean,
I didn't know exactly what a pandemic felt like. This is the first of my lifetime.
I didn't know what to expect.
I didn't know what to do and do it correctly,
but I did the best that I could.
And with that being said,
it's like to continue to stay connected on social,
on Facebook, taking rides, swarming, being able to,
I also, just like you Heather,
I ended up getting a bike right at the top of pandemic
so that I could engage with our community.
So I can hop on in my living room and take a ride.
And many of you are like,
Ali, why didn't you have a bike already?
Aren't you an instructor?
Let me put it this way.
I was very close, I am very close to the studio.
So if I wanted to ride, I can do that.
I'm also not always like, once I bring work home,
I'm on it all the time, which was my fear,
but it's a reality now, which I love,
because I'm not in the studio as much.
So no, I didn't have a bike because there were bikes
at our studio in our locker rooms that we could utilize.
So I got my riding in.
But becoming a home rider at the top of the pandemic,
I was able to swarm, I still ride at 6 a.m.
with my 6 a.m. hitters on a Tabata ride.
We pick a ride.
I posted on my stories.
I get about 200 people that'll swarm in the mornings,
Tuesday at 6 a.m., even though there's nothing
on the schedule, and we'll take the same ride
from five months ago.
And so I will say, like, it has been a life changer for me,
not only just as an instructor, but recently as a home rider,
being able to transition and offer new content
to our members because they are handling life
just as much as we are.
You know how it feels to hop on that bike and say,
all right, I'm frustrated today, I'm confused.
There's a level of uncertainty, I'm anxious.
And while Peloton is not a cure by any means,
it is definitely been an outlet for me
and many of my family to handle what's going on,
to get on and brighten up your day.
If you get on a Cody ride or an Alex ride
or you get one of my field good rides
or any instructor really,
it's a way to just not only get your workout in
but to add some levity to maybe what you're going through,
give you an extra boost.
And so I'm always shocked when I tell the story
of how there is a production studio in my living room and
It magically streams to people globally like across the world people will be in my living room Sunday at 1 p.m
Eastern Standard Time and I'm like this is incredible if that is just to tell the incredible people that we work with at Peloton
Like it's not just one instructor. It's not just six instructors, it's not all 33.
It's our organization, it's our company, it's real.
It's also more intimate, right, when you're as a rider,
because I can see your love artwork behind you
when you're riding and talking to us
and you feel literally we're in your home
and that connection I think solidifies community
and intimacy
at a time when people are feeling alone.
One of the things that I've gotta ask you about,
and it's interesting because I do take out Cody
and your rides, those are my three instructors
that I follow, and you've each handled this differently.
And I'm curious from a leadership standpoint,
because I see each one of you as leaders
for your communities.
As the racial unrest has accelerated,
become the protesting, the rioting,
there's so much angst, fear unknown right now
throughout our entire world,
not just our country as we're seeing this unfold.
How is it that you decided to approach this
or not approach this, to talk about it or not talk about it?
How has that process been for you?
Because just being on the outside,
I assume that it must be challenging
or the messages that you get from people.
What has that process been like for you?
Four, this is a turning point for Black Lives Matter
in terms of it's been around for seven years
and this is not the first time this situation has happened.
But when you talk about this racial unrest
that's accelerated, I think it's just more of it being,
again, I kind of always use the word a turning point.
It's been recognized largely.
And I can't speak in terms of for my other instructors
or fellow instructors, but what I can say is that for me, I talk about bringing your whole self to the bike. I talk about bringing your whole self to work.
It's something that our company has really encouraged. It is one of the best companies,
if not the best company that I've ever worked for. And in any place that we talk about it in
Love Squad, at any place you go, you want to feel like you belong there and you want to feel like
you can bring your whole self there and that you can be your authentic self.
And so I don't think that the expectation was set
that anything otherwise was going to happen at any point,
no matter what's going on,
when we get on the bike or on the mat.
And so in terms of how I handled it,
I know for me it still is an emotional process.
But most importantly, it is a learning experience
in the sense of leaning into resources,
really leaning into listening and learning,
even as a black woman, of what is going on,
what's the history, how do we speak about this,
what are people going through?
And again, the upside of our community
is that we are in contact.
People will hop on when I'm on Instagram Live and ask questions or slide in my DMs and now with that being
said not every question is gonna feel good and that is okay that's what
creates dialogue and not to say I engage with every single DM or every single
question but I'm aware my ears to the street because my community is a part of
me and in order to cultivate and really truly be a part of a community,
we have to listen to each other.
We have to know,
we have to at least have a pulse of what's going on.
And so again, I took the opportunity
to download audible books and I started doing,
I do endurance training on the bike.
So on my Saturdays when I'm riding for two hours
doing endurance training,
I put on my audible book and I listen.
I listen to those that are experts in anti-racism, understanding what key words means when we're talking about racism in general.
How is it different from discrimination and prejudice? Being able to articulate how I feel
because as much as I've gone through personal circumstances, there are many times I didn't have
the right words to express what happened
to me or how I felt about those things.
And so again, I had leaned into resources.
I continue to do so right now, reading audible books, podcasts, and then open up dialogue
with my family, with my fellow instructors, with my friends.
They're my friends as well.
And I think that that was the way that it has helped me and continues to help me to
understand what is my message when I get on that bike, because I don't want to ever go that that was the way that it has helped me and continues to help me to understand
what is my message when I get on that bike.
Because I don't wanna ever go anywhere
and speak and not be aware or intentionally pretend
I'm unaware what the emotions of the people
around me are going through.
And so when I do my Sundays with love,
and we talk about a virtue of courage
or we talk about temperance or we talk about friendship, I don't talk about all the
positive things because we can identify the positive things. The things that
we're going through are the not so positive things. The things that we have
this unrest with are the not so positive things and it's the things that we want
to learn how to work through and we want to learn that we're not alone and we
want to learn that we aren't in the dark and so it's this concept of either right
now as we're in this turning point, and I get
on a bike and whether it's a pop ride or intervals and arms ride or Sundays with love or feel
good ride, it's me recognizing and highlighting that while we may feel a certain high level
of uncertainty, while we may feel anxious, while we may feel overwhelmed, while we may
feel that we don't know what to say, or that we don't want to say the wrong things,
but we don't want to be silent.
I always talk about leaning into the resources and the voices
that are in the know, but also this concept of,
if you feel like you're in the dark because of those things,
all I want you to imagine is that if you turned
on the light in this dark room that you're in,
the reality of the situation is that there
will be people standing shoulder to shoulder with you because you're not alone in this dark room that you're in, the reality of the situation is that there will be people standing shoulder to shoulder with you
because you're not alone in this discomfort.
You're not alone in your uncertainty.
You're not alone in this turmoil that you're going through
in this emotional space that you're in.
And while our emotions and our stories
may be different and uniquely ours,
you are not alone in the fact that you still
have to confront those things and deal with those things and
So to get to to get all that wrapped up in a nice bow Is that at any time you get me on the bike the point is for me to be a real person
I'm gonna give you a great workout and I'm gonna motivate you but I'm also a real person and not that I say I'm gonna
Be the most preachy person all the time and give you a sermon on the bike
But it's just an understanding like bringing my whole self to that bike
and to the mat is really important.
And I wanna be my true self.
I wanna be me in any space.
And so that was the decision that I made for many years
is that what makes me feel good is when I'm myself
and I'm my most kind self and my most honest self,
transparent self, and that's what I remind myself about
before I get on that bike and clip in.
That was so beautifully said.
So thank you for explaining that
because you made the point that we're not alone.
And I've always felt that through your rides,
through your messaging,
and it's just more important now than ever.
So if people are not following yet, Ali,
where can they find you?
Oh, thank you. If you would like to follow me, I'm Ali, Miss Love on Instagram,
Ali love dot com on my website.
And then I would encourage any of you that are looking for what we've been doing.
We've been a conduit for resources around Black Lives Matter, around COVID,
around business, well-being of women.
But love squad, love squad on Instagram is at Squad, and then sign up for the newsletter.
Those are always really educational and informative,
and leading you to resources that could potentially
be catalysts for change for you,
but that's lovesquad.com.
Thank you so much for your time today.
Thank you for including us in your community,
and thank you for your message and for your teachings.
I am already following you, everybody.
I'm encouraging you to follow Ali too.
She's got the best, most positive message out there.
Thank you, Ali, for being here.
Thank you, Heather.
This was incredible.
Thank you to everyone who took the time
to listen to the end.
I'm sending you all love and light.
Thank you again, Heather.
Hold tight, we'll be right back.
I asked you to try to find your passion.
I hope you love meeting Ali Love
as much as I love meeting her and spending time with her.
She drops a major wisdom. Again against such a young, powerful woman, which makes me so excited
for the future.
Inclusive, and love is where it's at, and I'm all in.
So okay, a few things.
One, I wanted to respond to a question that was sent in to me.
So here we go.
Hey Heather, heard you on podcast moms moving on.
I'm currently married with a 10 month old little girl. My husband and I have been fighting. PS by
the way, everyone in the world is fighting during quarantine. The pressure on everyone is excessive.
About a month or maybe a little over a month ago, I had James Sexton on who's a famous New York
divorce attorney. And he called this out that there would be more divorces than we've ever seen in the history of our
country once quarantine ends and it's just everyone's routine was upset
everyone's there was uncertainty everywhere there's financial uncertainty
there's unrest with children and responsibility I mean there's so much
going on for everyone so I just hope everyone cuts themselves a break and so
you know today my son sat in his room all day long
and I felt terrible about it, but I have to cut myself a break too.
I know I have a job to do as well.
And, you know, it's easy in these moments to get down on things
and we've just got to be kind to ourselves.
Okay, so I feel he doesn't listen to me and I feel we're headed for divorce. At times I find myself having thoughts like, would I divorce him if I
knew I could get full custody? I'm curious how you knew it was time to get
a divorce or if you have any advice. So here's the thing, oh my gosh, I was
crystal clear when it was time to get a divorce. I remember thinking I could kill
that man. I was so angry at him. It was, I thought I could throw a chair at him. I
literally thought I might throw something at him.
That's how angry, a level of anger
I didn't even know existed inside me.
That's how mad I was when I finally,
that was my final straw.
I'll never forget.
Oh my gosh, I was livid.
So you hit a breaking point, I think,
I mean, listen, everybody's different, right?
But for me, it was clear.
I just, the one question I asked myself was, would you rather be with him, unhappily married,
or be willing to be single with a small child?
Which one?
And I really thought it through, you know, because some people leave to be with someone
else.
That's, in my opinion, not the right answer.
That's a recipe for disaster. But if you can do it and just be on your own, would you be happier? And when I
played it out in my mind, I was, yeah, I would. I wouldn't be let down all the time. I wouldn't be
arguing all the time. I'd have energy back. I wouldn't have this negative pull on me that
I wasn't happy with something and I was just letting it linger. So I kind of liken that back
to firing your villains to create confidence. And I'm not saying that he was a villain. I'm saying in that situation, for me,
it was like this pulling negative gnaw on me. And when you get rid of that, you set yourself up for
further success because you put positive energy back into your life. You eliminate negative energy,
you eliminate fighting all these negative emotions and feelings that really begin to consume you.
So for me, it was crystal clear,
and I'd ask yourself that question.
Listen, we might have other people in our ear.
We might have your mother might be saying,
don't get a divorce, don't get a divorce.
You really gotta tune out other people
and listen to yourself, listen to your instinct,
listen to your intuition, journal.
That's another great way to start to hear your inner voice.
You have the answer inside you.
You already know what the answer is.
And frankly, if you're reaching out to me, I'm pretty clear what the answer is.
It's funny.
People reach out to me when they want the aggressive kick in the pants.
I know that it happens all the time.
I get people message me, should I leave my job if A, B, C, and D?
Well, let me tell you something.
If you are reaching out to me,
you probably are looking for that push,
so why don't you go ahead and do it, right?
So that's the indicator to me.
The fact that she reached out to me
probably says that she should do it,
but she needs to answer that question for herself.
I cannot tell her what to do and no one else can.
She will know the right thing to do.
She will listen to herself
and answer this question for herself.
I remember when I was younger,
a therapist would say that to me and I'd get so mad. I'd be like, no, you just tell me, tell me what to do, she will listen to herself and answer this question for herself. I remember when I was younger a therapist would say that to me and I'd
get so mad. I'd be like, no, you just tell me, tell me what to do. It's so much
easier. But you have to take responsibility when it's your own
decisions, right? That's why it is harder. But the more you do that, the more you
step into owning your voice, the more you step into listening to your own voice
and acting on your intuition, the happier your life will become. It's the things we
don't want to look at, things we don't wanna look at,
that we don't wanna see, that we don't wanna deal with,
that we want to ignore, that really start to weigh us down.
So shed those things, just like we shed the virus,
and move on.
Okay, the other thing I really wanted to get into
is one of my mentees had an interesting challenge
that I wanna share with everyone.
Back when I was in corporate America, I was in beyond so many BS meetings that were ridiculous.
And oftentimes you'd be dealing with peers and they'd be responsible for work and they're not hitting their deadlines
and it affects you and you can't get your job done when everybody else isn't.
And the leader at the table isn't leading, right?
They're not holding anyone accountable
and you're getting frustrated, but you have to be PC
and you have to smile and you can't call the leader
at the table what you wanna call them, useless, right?
So there's this whole facade and dance
that goes on in corporate America,
which frankly I do not miss,
but so many of us are in it, right?
So one of my mentees is knee deep in it.
Senior level executive, major company,
but she's with a lot of peers and a leader who's not leading.
And they have these meetings where they get clear on the outcome,
but it's not clear what the deadlines are,
what the workflow process is, who's responsible for what,
and there's no follow-up email.
So when she explained to me the challenge she was facing,
and she doesn't wanna appear a bitch, right?
You know, she doesn't wanna be nagging everyone.
So I had a couple of ideas for her.
One is to ask for help,
because I think that's a really kind way
to approach a situation,
and most people wanna help one another.
So you can always reach back out to the quote unquote,
pretend leader and say, I need your help.
We left the meeting and I'm crystal clear on the outcome.
And thank you so much for that direction.
However, I'm not clear on this.
Can you tell me who's responsible for ABC and when that deadline is, you know, so approaching
in a more gentle asking for help way is a safe way to be PC yet accomplish your goal. Another way that I like to do it
is she was saying, you know, I need to get this information and report from my peer.
We're equals. I can't tell him what to do. I can't tell him a deadline and the leader's
not doing it. I would reach out. I said with the headline or beginning of your email saying,
I'm confused. I'm confused. I'm not able to get my work done
if I can't get access to your reports.
Do you have any direction around
when your team's pulling those reports together
or when you can get them done?
I just want you and I to both look great
going into this meeting.
How can we both come out on top?
You know, can you give me some feedback?
So I love leading with I'm confused
because it's not like you're blaming someone, but you need some insight into what's going on.
And then the other thing is aligning yourself with them, right? I want us both to look great
in the meeting and in order for, you know, you and I are in this together. And as you know,
we need to rely on one another's information and reports so that we can both do our part.
I can promise to get this to you by X what date works for you. You know, to be more collaborative is another way that you can achieve
your goal without pissing people off and still, you know, be professional. So those are some of
the approaches that I shared this week and hopefully you find them helpful. You know,
I have to tell you, if you are struggling with communicating right now during these uncertain times, during
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