Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Empowerment Is At Your Fingertips! With Craig Siegel, Keynote Speaker & Performance & Mindset Coach Episode 235
Episode Date: July 19, 2022In This Episode You Will Learn About: Thoughts are NOT facts  How to level up & take risks Empowering yourself Resources: Website: www.cultivatelastingsymphony.com Join The CLS Members...hip Listen to The CLS Experience Email: Alex@CultivateLastingSymphony.com LinkedIn: @Craig Landon Siegel Instagram: @craigsiegel_cls Facebook: @Cultivate Lasting Symphony Twitter: @CraigSiegel_CLS Youtube: @Craig Siegel Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Show Notes: Are you disempowering yourself with your thoughts? Once you become aware of the power you and your brain has, you can replace this negative self-talk with strategic and positive thoughts! Don’t be so hard on yourself. Small wins add up, so you’ll be reaching your goals in no time! It’s time to level up and go after your DREAMS. After all, you can’t lose what you don’t have, so take the risk!  About The Guest: Craig Siegel is a value based, high energy keynote speaker, and inspirational thought leader! Endorsed by some of the world’s most well known celebrities, Craig helps people upgrade their mindsets and fulfill their ultimate potential. With his unique combination of energy, motivation, inspiration, charisma, and business success he has founded and successfully helped millions of people worldwide with his Cultivating Lasting Symphony program.  If You Liked This Episode You Might Also Like These Episodes: The #1 Way To STOP Fearing and START Living In Your Power with Sarah Pendrick How To Get OUT Of Your Own Way with THE Executive Coach Beth Handel Step Into The Unknown & Conquer Fear with Heather!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Thoughts are not facts.
They're just random.
So thoughts are random thinking is not.
So anytime that you're feeling low vibe, it's just that your thoughts are disempowered
at the moment.
So anytime that you're having an all day or whatever the case would be, it just feedback to let you know that your thoughts are out of whack and disempowering at the moment. So anytime that you're having an all day, whatever the case would be,
it just feedback to let you know that your thoughts
are at a whack, a disempowering
and you can literally be mindful, acknowledge that
and then go in and replace them
with more productive, constructive, strategic thoughts.
Once you really become mindful of it and aware,
which really change everything for me,
you can be strategic, which thoughts you allow to take up real estate inside your mind. That changes everything.
I'm on this journey with me. Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our
goals, overcome adversity and set you up for better tomorrow.
I'm ready for my close time.
Hi, and welcome back. I'm so excited for you to meet my friend and our guest today, Craig Siegel.
He's a value-based high energy keynote speaker
and rising thought leader, as featured in entrepreneur
and endorsed by some of the world's most well-known celebrities,
entertainers, athletes and entrepreneurs,
such as Rob Deerjick at Mylett, Bethany Hamilton,
Suzanne Summers, Alicia Silverstone,
and NFL Holla Famer, Ryan Dawkins.
When the pandemic hit, Craig felt guided
and left his lucrative and stable job on Wall Street.
And when all in with his passion and purpose
to help people upgrade their mindset
and fulfill their potential,
Craig's unique combination of energy, motivation,
inspiration, charisma, and business success has led to the meteoric rise of Cultivate Lasting Symphony, CLS,
a contagious, never-before-seen explosion that has impacted millions of lives worldwide.
Craig, thanks so much for being here today. Wow, what an unbelievable introduction. Usually,
I'm the one dish for them out on the podcast, but I'm so excited to be here. We become really good friends.
And every time we get together, we create magic.
So let's get nuts.
So one of the things I want everyone to know
listening in right now and it's so important.
So basic but so important.
Craig and I have become friends like for a while now, you know,
over definitely over a year and support each other
and encourage each other all the time.
I never thought to have you as a guest on the podcast just didn't cross my mind.
And the other day Craig sends me a text and he's like, hey, Heather,
we'd love to support you on your show. Is there any chance that I could come on the show?
Here's what I could do to help support it. I think I could add some value for your listeners.
Two things there that I want to highlight as to why you're successful
and I want my listeners doing the same and it's something I practice every day. Number one,
if we're going to reach out to somebody making about them and how we can add value to them,
that's one oh one sales one oh one, ask one oh one. And then number two, ask. I mean, so few of us,
a closed mouth will never be fed. We need to show up and ask,
what is the worst that can happen?
So Craig, thank you for asking.
Yeah, first of all,
I love that you said that a closed mouth doesn't get fed.
It's one of my favorite expressions.
Also, you can't lose what you don't have, right?
And one of the ways that I got that strategy
was by listening to your awesome podcast
and you always preach that stuff to things.
How can you provide value, right?
Like start the conversation with that. And then obviously you have to ask.
You have to take a swing. So we're in alignment with both these things.
So it's funny. We were just actually as Craig is really getting it big into
the speaking business. We were just talking offline and I was saying, Craig,
you need to check the box and add the TEDx. It's one more certification or
credibility that you can add as a speaker and people like it. Right? It's one more certification or credibility that you can add as a speaker and people like
it, right?
It's just something that they like to see.
So we were brainstorming around landing your first TEDx and it goes back to that same fundamental
we just described, which is about how can I add value to them?
How can I make it about them, right?
And then really just doing the work and showing up and asking. And so so often people are afraid to put themselves out there.
They're nervous of what if I'm told, though, what if it goes poorly?
How do you break through those fears and get yourself to level up and go to the TEDx?
Yeah, this is going to get real deep real quick.
Between me and you and obviously all your listeners, it's like, I don't fear death at this point in my life. What I fear most is not living life on my terms and not making the most of every second
and take advantage of opportunities and make an impact and contribute.
So any great idea or any way I could facilitate the growth of the brand which enables us
to make an impact and so forth, I'm all for it.
And I don't really see fear in asking if somebody were to say,
no, whatever the case would be.
And like spoiler, like it's not my business
when anybody thinks of me.
Like I'm sure there's people out there that don't love me
as I'm sure, hard to believe, but it might be people
that doesn't love Heather.
But it is what it is.
And let's just be honest, like there's people out there
that we don't love.
It is what it is.
So you gotta take a shot, you got
count. Thank you for share element to this conversatio
and I didn't used to and
the seed. So what I mean
we asked for something, we
first happens to me all of
maybe a year, two years later,
months later, you get that person coming back around saying, oh, yeah, we'd him and I remember it.
And I remember specifically in my career when I was a VP of sales back in the broadcasting
business, I remember saying to someone, I want to headline this conference. He had a massive
conference that I wanted that main stage. And I planted
this seed in his mind. He said no, right? He declined that opportunity, sadly. But I planted
a seed in his mind and it came full circle one year later when I got a note from him,
say, Hey, Heather, we're looking for some C-suite executives to participate this year. Would
you be willing to take main stages as the keynote?
And so I truly believe he wouldn't have reached out to me
had I not planted that seed.
So sometimes when you're told to know,
it's just because it's that first step
planning to seed and then watching it,
what wounds from there, would you agree with that?
100% and for being on Walls you for 10, 11 years,
like spoiler alert, like not every sale gets closed
on the first ask, right?
Sometimes you build a pipeline, you plant your seeds just as you
attest it to. And ultimately, it's the long game mentality. And when I say
long game, it's not to scare the audience. Like it takes three to five years,
but it's just that get first downs, get first downs, sprinkle,
plant some seeds and so forth. And they usually always pay up. If not
then, then it comes back around when it's mutually beneficial and obviously the other person sees it as a win-win.
Timing is everything. Timing is everything in personal life or in business. And I'm constantly
reminded about this. All right, Craig, you made a major leap from my leap. I was pushed out the
window. You chose to make a leap, which I feel like is such a bigger deal. Why then? Why when a pandemic hits and it feels like it's more unstable
than ever?
To me, I would think most people are clinging on
to corporate America and you're running from it.
How did that happen?
I just got into a place,
how the world was straight up miserable.
Like, yes, it was lucrative, but as it turns out,
and I'm sure you can attest to, success isn't measured
only by how much money you make, right? Like for me, at this'm sure you can attest to success isn't measured only by how
much money you make, right? Like for me, at this season, it's measured by how happy I am or
happy to give an impact that I make. And I was in a dark place that I had a bunch of things going
on at once. And ultimately, in the beginning of the pandemic, when there was a lockdown and I
shut down my office, like, and I really grounded myself for the first time, maybe ever. And like,
ask myself those deep, powerful questions, like I realize realized like, I don't want this lockdown to end because I don't want to go back.
It felt like hell. Like I was waking up like going to a J.O.B. even though lucrative and my
own business. But for what? Like what's the point? And this ties back to like that deep
analogy that there's a eulogy exercise that I recently posted on social media.
It goes back to the concept of death and I really got deep with myself and I was like,
if this was it for me, like in a couple weeks, like what would people say about at my funeral?
Like, yes, I had some good relations, some good friends, family and so forth, but did
I leave a legacy that I really contribute that I make an impact that I put a dent in
the universe.
And the tough answer was no.
And then I started to ask myself, well, what would make me happy?
What am I good at?
And from studying personal development for so long,
I was able to put together a strategy,
essentially combine, making an impact,
and making a living.
And what I love is personal development
and what I happen to be gifted at
is being a communicator.
And so I've said, I don't want to be the next 20 Robins,
I want to be the first Craig Siegel.
I don't know for certain that this thing's going to work.
I have no online business experience,
but I'm willing to try if it meant not going back.
And I went all in straight up.
It's such a competitive space,
a space where people had years jumpstart on you
that you got into this space, in my opinion,
at the worst time ever, maybe you see it differently,
but to me, it was definitely an isolating time, it was a difficult time. You were able to grow your show so incredibly
quickly. Your social media channels so incredible. When so many people were buying for what you were
able to achieve, why did you achieve it and so many other people not? I don't want this to come
across arrogant because it's not, but ultimately, when I see spaces that are saturated, as they say, you can look at it from two to perspectives.
I think most people say they probably
look at it and think over saturation,
I'll never have a chance.
I'll just be a spoke on the wheel.
But as a trailblazer and somebody that believes in themselves
and is more importantly willing to put in the work
to improve, I said to myself, you know what,
it's a saturated space, but that's a good thing
because there's always room for the best. and it just means there's a market for it
Right, and I love personal development like it comes natural to me like waking up every day and sharpening the axe and consuming positive content and learning how to
Revant our mindset and learning about the low-betraction like this isn't work to me this conversation is not work to me
I genuinely love this stuff and I said I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
I will pay the price and I'll negotiate the price in advance, meaning I understand it will get
challenging because I don't have all the experience at the online space, but I'm willing to do the
work so to speak. And I just went nuts and obviously I was intentional and strategic with the people
I collaborated with, with the relationships I formed. But ultimately, when I see something that's really saturated,
I challenge the audience listening today.
It just means that there's more of a market board.
And if you're willing to really work hard
and beat on your craft, there's a lot of opportunity.
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You come at things so differently than me.
It's so funny to see I love hearing your perspective on it.
When you look back at your career in corporate America and Wall Street, or the same reasons
you found success, quote unquote success there, the same reasons that you find success now
or no.
That's a really good question and no one's ever asked me that.
I think there's definitely key characteristics
that can give you success in any arena, right?
Like for example,
I recently started running a bunch of marathons.
I'd never been a runner.
And I've been successful running them
pretty fast time and so forth.
Do I think that there's traits that I use to run marathons
that I use to have success in Wall Street
and also CLS.
Yes, I do. Obviously hard work, put in the hours, mindset, and stuff of that nature. But ultimately,
obviously, as a gladier in two different arenas, there's different things to be successful
in the online space, to be a keynote speaker that is used to be on Wall Street. But I think some
principles always apply, right? It's like, it's not war-shreed that made me successful or corporate America that made you
successful.
It was you that were successful.
And essentially, you can apply that to anything as long as you're able to gain some product
knowledge and gain some strategy.
And I really believe that.
For so many people who are listening right now, and I've been there, I've so been there,
are thinking it's the title.
No, it's the company I work for.
No, you know what, it's the industry that I'm in.
You know what, no, it's the team that don't,
those, like they're looking at everything around them
and I used to do the same thing.
I would hated my job, I'd like you,
I would come home and say, why am I doing this?
This is a nightmare, I'm like losing years of my life
just to make money. This is awful.
But you know what? What if I make that lead? And it was the title. It was the company. It was the
industry. How were you able to break through that? Well, hold on a second. Let's unpack that for a second.
How were you able to transition and have so much success? I mean, I know your story very well because
aside from us being really good friends, I'm also a fan. And I listen to what you have to say.
And often you talk about like just getting your hands dirty,
like reaching out to companies,
seeing like who needs a speaker.
Okay, well, what the people usually speak on.
I've heard you say, well, usually it's authors,
they speak on their book.
That's a good way to get into the field.
It's not like you were born with those traits,
but you put in the work, you Google it,
you figured stuff out.
You taught me how to do the Google alerts.
Now all these TEDx things are emailing me about how to get involved in the work, you Google it, you figured stuff out. You taught me how to do the Google alerts. Now all these TEDx things are emailing me
about how to get involved in the East Coast and so forth.
So I don't think any of that stuff is really rocket science.
So the listeners out there that put this limiting belief
in their mindset that their only success will be cause.
I challenge you to look at that from a different light.
You're successful because of you and how hungry you are,
how patient you are, how passionate you are,
what you're willing to do to achieve success and so forth.
And I believe you can translate that into anything
and it has nothing to do with the title.
It comes out to do with how bad do you want it?
Okay, this is Silver Mine review of O'Cala.
I had earlier with one of my dearest girlfriends.
I mean, literally love this girl.
She's a ride or dive friend.
She's going through a potential career transition right now.
She's been in sales in a lap,
luster, food industry for a while.
It doesn't love it.
Makes good money, whatever, and it
provides her life with her daughter
and to have great friends and have fun.
But she says to me, the company was just acquired.
I can see the writing on the wall.
She said, Heather, is this the moment
I should glean in and double down on the current job? Or is this the universe time
me to pick my head up and see what is available to me? You
know, outs, I'm like, dude, if you're calling me, you already
know the answer, it's time to pick your head up, it's time to
look at and develop and write down, what is it that you really
want to do? What are you passionate about? She's like, but I
don't know, I said, I'll tell you, you love fashion, you love
relationships, you love being like, write I don't know. I said, I'll tell you, you love fashion, you love relationships, you love being,
like write those things down.
I'm not asking you to tell me the number of job,
you know, just write down what it is that you love.
Write down what it is that you like to do
and who you want to be around.
And then let's read that list together
and start brainstorming what jobs might actually fit that bill.
I think we've been doing it backwards for so long.
You see an opening, you backwards for so long, you see
an opening, you apply for the opening, and then suddenly that's all you're meant to do. I mean,
how would you have responded to her? I agree with you 100%. The writing is ready on the world. The
fact that she's asking these questions is obviously a good sign, but it also tells us that that's the
answer right there, right? And also, but where do I start? How do I gain clarity? And you talk about
writing stuff down. And here's something interesting that I start? How do I gain clarity? And you talk about writing stuff down.
And here's something interesting
that I challenge listeners as well.
People want to wait for the perfect time
to get clarity in my personal opinion.
And this is gonna sound maybe controversial.
Clarity follows action, not the other way around.
Like fortune favors the brave.
Just get your hands dirty.
Take out a journal,
what am I good at?
What is a problem that the world needs solved right now?
What are my passions and so forth?
And ultimately, you'll collect some data and at least you'll get a little bit of direction
and then you can get some momentum.
So, but ultimately, you have to take some action, even an action as getting a journal and
writing stuff down, like you suggested to your friend.
To me, that's action.
Clarity will follow that.
Oh, it's so, so true.
Craig, I know you're big into mindset and abundance.
Like, I am how has the law of attracted impact your life?
This stuff, I can't talk about this stuff enough.
And for the longest time, I was skeptical of it because the woo woo stuff and it was
beyond my senses.
Mindset, I was always about like changing what you associate pain and pleasure to do,
how to cultivate confidence on command and so forth.
But this law of attraction stuff is just a different animal, right?
It's like a little more below the surface.
It's really awesome, straight up.
And the best thing that I got from it right now is just being available for all the
abundance out there.
Like, how many times do people say like, I want to manifest this or I think this,
like, you don't manifest what you want.
You manifest what you are, what you can sustain vibrationally.
What are you a match for?
And this is really good news, right?
Because for the audience, it's saying, I did that.
It's like, wait a minute, I've been wanting this or I desired this for so long,
but I'm not receiving the results.
Well, that's feedback right there,
because you get back what you are, not what you want.
So that's like basically going,
so I change your frequency, tune up a little bit,
pay attention to who you surround yourself with,
what you're tuned into, and get on a higher vibe
to make it digestible for the audience.
And then you'll attract other things.
This is a big difference between
thinking something, believing it and then actually feeling it. And we were talking before about our narrative and speaking stock and now that I've you know, much more experience and so forth,
like bottom line is you manifest what you are and this is really good for the audience because
sometimes it gets out very confusing, this wall of attraction stuff. That's a good way to simplify
it is that you are a vibrational
match for whatever it is that you're getting. And if you want to get better results, become a match,
become more available for that stuff out there. And once I really started honing in on that,
it made me understand it a lot better. And now I feel like I live in the quantum.
Oh my gosh, have you been reading Dr. Joe to spend this work?
I have read his work, yeah. So I've been big into that recently. I actually need to have have even been reading Dr. Joe to spend this work. I have read his work. Yeah.
So I've been big into that recently.
I actually need to have him on the show too.
But you articulated it very well for me
for a long time, right? And you know this.
I was working side by side with someone who hated me.
I was in a very negative environment.
Low energy, right? You're always looking over your shoulder.
You're unhappy. You're not in that vibrational energy that you describe.
That you need to be living if you
want to trip, right?
So I be in this low-vide negative situation at work and I be thinking, this is what I want.
An amazing career where I'm appreciated and I'm doing good in the world.
But because I'm in this low negative situation, it was never matching up.
For me, I had to fire that villain.
She thought she fired me.
Flip the script on her actually fired my number one villain that day. But once I cleared that negative
energy out so I could be at a little bit of a higher vibe. I started attracting positive people to
me. And then the more that you started holding on to those ideas of other things you wanted,
you start seeing them materialize. I have lived this firsthand and you are so right, you're never going to
attract what it is that you're trying to manifest.
If you got that low vibe energy, how do you change low vibe energy?
Just being mindful of my thoughts, right?
And if we could drop a couple of nuggets for the audience, like guys, like thoughts can
be the worst, right?
They can take you down in an instant, but here's the beauty of it.
Thoughts are not facts.
They're just random.
So thoughts are random thinking is not.
So any time that you're feeling low vibe
or low frequency or not a good vibrational match and so forth,
it's just that your thoughts are disempowering at the moment.
So any time that you're having an off day,
or whatever the case would be,
it's just feedback to let you know
that your thoughts are out of whack and disem empowering, and you can literally be mindful, acknowledge
that, and then go in and replace them with more productive, constructive, strategic thoughts.
That will now create new beliefs. I am worthy. I do deserve the life I desire and so forth.
I can do this instead of the limitations, so forth. Then that obviously leads to better actions,
better habits, and so forth, and ultimately better results.
So it all starts with the thoughts.
I know that's cliche.
People always say like thoughts and things,
but once you really become mindful of it and aware,
which really change everything for me,
you can be strategic, which thoughts you allow
to take up real estate inside your mind.
And that changes everything.
Oh, it's so true. It sounds to me like what you're describing is a lot about discipline.
And one of the things that I see with you, Craig, and your routines and your life is
you're so disciplined with your physical commitments and working out and eating healthy.
Do you see a lot of parallels there from just your mindset and business and life and in the
physical realm? Yeah, I do. It's a great question. I'm very disciplined. I learned that when I got to Wall Street,
the power of discipline and so forth. And for me, personally, I don't know about you,
I'd love to know, like, if I haven't unexpected, like, hole in my schedule, or like a day that's not
super book, which is rare these days, but I like feel a little weird. I like to be busy, busy,
like, have things going on. Like today it was a crazy day so far.
Milling different things going on and they're all different, which makes it so fun and exciting.
But those the days when I'm most productive, I'm most disciplined, I'm structured, I'm on a schedule.
So for me personally, and I guess everybody's different, I like, I know there's free spirits out there
that don't work well like that. But for me, structure and discipline is a massive key component to success in all facets of my life. So when I'm hearing you describe
that it's so funny to me, I'm at this different phase of my life right now
where I like when I have, I'm like it's summer. I want to be able to like relax a
little bit. I don't always my whole life has been like go go go go go go back
there's never enough time to get everything done because I have so much ambition
inside of me. But it's funny that just for whatever reason right now as
we talked about, I'm in the process of selling my condo and moving and like starting this
new adventure.
And I love the idea of like sitting down and just thinking about, okay, where do I want
to live and like, what do I want to do?
And when I get those windows of free time, I'm excited.
I had someone cancel on me today for a meeting and I was, oh my, I can sit down and like forecast what this could potentially look like and I can try
to figure out the date. And I just felt so like having the free time was a welcome feeling to me,
which has not been the case for most of my life. So my point is that, you know, both can work and
they can work at different times for you too. Yeah, there's different seasons, right? It seems
like you're in the season right now or BBB as a po
do do and that's good sh
right or wrong. I think you
balance. I put balance a
really mean. It's different
ultimately, it's not always
you want to allow allow,
the alignment and the ab
all that stuff.
So kudos to you and I totally get it.
Oh my gosh, allow or receive is the other word
that those who do for me allow receiving, you know,
risk of being not only this idea,
like I want to go out and grab everything and go for it,
but instead allowing things to come for me and be willing
and grateful receiving it.
That was a completely new and different concept.
Guys, please, I mean, my mantra is when I wake up
in the morning is, you know, I'm grateful for it,
the universe, and God for all the abundance that I'm receiving
and I'm so grateful for these blessings
you're giving me today, right?
But just this idea of shifting from,
I don't have to chase everything down.
Actually, these right things are showing up for me
and I'm here to embrace them and receive them.
So I'm thank you for saying that. Allow. One of the things that you're really incredible at Craig
is creating community. And that's where I see a lot of success, not only in your business,
but in your podcast. And I see a lot of people missing that piece. How were you able to create
such a massive community? And how do you further it and keep it growing?
So I went the extra mile, right from the beginning
when I was in the through CLS,
I wanted it to be known that I appreciate
every single like, every single comment,
anybody that actually cares about what I have to say
because I realize this saturation
there's a lot of options out there
and I literally would say up to one, two in the morning
responding back to everybody that commented on Instagram or LinkedIn on Facebook.
Obviously now there's just not enough hours in the day to do that. But to the best of my ability, I will respond to everybody. I want them to feel a personal connection.
And I think that really became contagious. The community is growing rapidly. You've spoken in some of our masterminds and the monthly membership and so forth.
And they really appreciate that.
When you go the extra mile, they feel that.
And for me, that was how I was able to separate myself
from everybody else out there.
And everybody always says the community's really hard-cored
or loyal, they're engaging.
It's like something they've never seen.
And I want to give them all the credit in the world,
but ultimately for anyone out there
that's looking to build a community, I would say go the extra mile, like show them that you care,
it means everything.
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I have a coaching client
that I've been working with for the past year.
He has a pretty large company
and they're doing their summer retreat,
right back to corporate America.
And for me, everything I'm talking about,
we have our strategy calls about the meeting
is how do you want these people to feel when they're there?
What do you want them walking away, saying,
let's dive into that,
like how do we break down these barriers
and get people talking?
We got into, we were brainstorming today,
like on the first night when everyone arrives,
make sure we're doing a sign seating,
because I don't want people sitting by the people
that they know, I want them sitting next to someone
they would never expose themselves to.
I'm like, and then I wanna to open with something really creative that's
going to get them talking. And my client came up with the idea to truce and one lie, right?
And when you play that game with people that you typically just work with and are, you
know, getting by with, but suddenly you're making fun and interesting and people start laughing
and letting their hair down a little bit, you start creating a real
community, which I see missing from so many places in
corporate America. And I love that you're on page with
that same thing because I have been a part of some of your
events and, you know, the people are so passionate, they're
so all and they're so supportive of one another. And to me,
no matter where you work or what you do, that's the kind of
people that you want to get with, right?
100% and like on the flip side, like if you don't have that culture or community, like there's only so far you can go, right?
Because there has to be an audience for whatever it is that you're offering, whether it's service or product, whatever the case it be,
and you want to build trust with them. And by going back and doing the right thing, it comes back to you. And you've seen it firsthand. And the support that they show each other, it's
just so special. So I appreciate you acknowledging that.
Every time I get to do anything, I feel through it's so much fun. Like you said, it's never
a work. It's something that when you walk away, you're supposed to be showing up and giving
something, but you walk away feeling better than when you showed up to event. That's when
you know you're with your people.
And for everyone listening, if you haven't found
those people yet, they are here.
You can check out Craig's Mastermind Group,
which I highly suggest now.
We'll also put in the show notes.
Craig, I want to talk a little bit about something
you brought up before we got on air today
that I think is going to help people a lot.
When you start something new, when you left Wall Street
and launch your speaking career, you were talking about how at first there were questions of like, okay, wait a lot. When you start something new, when you left Wall Street and launch your speaking
career, you were talking about how at first there were questions of like, okay, wait a minute,
I'm quote unquote, new at this, right? You know how to speak, but like now you're charging
people for it and you start wondering how did that develop for you and when did you really
get your footing in that whole new arena? Yeah, I'm so happy that you brought this up because
ultimately, no matter how much self
believe or how high your self worth is, it's impossible to have a hundred percent confidence
when you're doing something for the first time, right? Like I remember when I ran my first marathon
a few years ago, like I was confident in my training, but how do I really know? You don't run 26.2
miles in training. So ultimately, you have to get some experience in the development. And how do
you do that? You just do the damn thing, right?
Like you get messy, you get bold, you step into it, you get your
hands are it as we test to a couple times. And sometimes you
have to be willing to do mediocre things, right? Look, we crave
certainty, but we live for uncertainty. So you don't worry
about the outcome so much. And as I was like to say, marry the
process, divorce the outcome, step into it.
You're never going to be a 10 out of 10 your first time, no matter what it is, because there's
always room for improvement, but you just get into it and you learn and you grow and you get
better, you become seasoned and you get experience.
What Heather was attesting to is the first couple of speaking engagements, yes, I did good,
all things considered, but there was of course room for improvement.
I don't have an ego.
I acknowledge that where I'm at now is not going to be as good as I am hopefully in the
next couple of years, but right where I'm at right now is significantly better.
And the reason being is because I have that experience being on stage, right?
Like the body language, like walking, making eye contact, the tonality, the core message,
the stories, the lessons,
now you're getting me so jazzed
because I'm thinking about how far I've come
and assured him at a time,
but because I'm putting in the work
for the audiences and what's the message here?
No matter what it is that you want to do,
like you don't have to be great to start,
but you do have to start to be great.
Just get into damn thing.
One of the things that you're explaining to me
is that once you saw the audience response, right,
in real time, it gave you that extra boost.
So, oh, wait a minute.
Now, that's real.
I can, okay, wait a minute.
That landed really well.
Everyone, if you're not continually learning,
continually growing and getting better,
you're missing the point.
You know, every time you get up,
whether it's for a presentation at work
or like Craig's talking about, you know,
a keynote on a large stage somewhere,
that's an opportunity to impact people. It's an opportunity to make a difference. And yes, there are moments
where you're saying I don't have any business being on this massive stage, but I'm going
to step out and I'm going to give it everything I have. And when you see that response from
someone, it makes all the difference in the world. And then when you get off that stage,
like you said, you're like, wait a minute. Oh, I did warrant being out there. That gives
me the momentum to propel me to that next bigger stage.
Next time you saw it happen, you saw it materialized, and now you know that you're meant for
more.
Hell yes.
And what's the line that you always say, like, after the first book, you had a couple
errors in it, but you always say that line.
What is it?
Donna is better than perfect.
All right.
It's so true, though. I will always be the woman on her deathbed that says,
I am so proud of that imperfect book I have out there with three mistakes that change the lives.
I don't even know how many people versus being the person on a deathbed that says, wow,
I had an incredible book inside me, but I never found the perfect way to write it. Don't die with
your book and society proverbial book, but like whatever it is, way to write it. Right? Don't die with your book and society, proverbial book,
but like whatever it is, you know, your idea, your concept,
like, don't ever let that go.
That's why we're here, right?
Like God has put you here for a reason,
explore that reason, begin to move into it
in whatever small step you need to take.
Because like for you Craig, your life has completely changed
because you made that leap from Wall Street
to following your passion and purpose.
It changed everywhere, like my relationship, right?
My relationships with the new people that I'm surrounded
myself with, I'm just a whole new version of me.
And for the first time in my life, I'm in complete and utter alignment.
It feels so good.
One thing that you just mentioned was faith.
And I heard your podcast maybe a week or two ago,
I forgot when, but you kinda sprinkled in
and dove into a little bit.
I think you could like a church session or something like that.
And I wanted to acknowledge you,
excited for you to explore that some more.
Oh, thank you, you're so funny.
Yeah, I got a lot of comments about it.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah, I was at church and I left church
and I decided to do my podcast,
right, walking out of church, literally.
Like I got home from church
and I said, I wanna speak to this, right?
Like it's speaking to me
and I typically don't get into spirituality on my show.
And it's just funny thing, right?
And I'm super interested to hear what you think about it.
But like people will join you
and be a part of your community for certain reasons, right?
So for some people, they wanna follow me because I got fired and I talk about how hard it was
whatever. Then there's some people that follow you for different reasons. So anytime you start
evolving and saying, wow, I feel called to speak about something different, there is this bit of
trepidation, right? Because a lot of people follow me for business tips and for leadership tips,
sales, whatever.
And you're like, wait a minute, do I really want to lean in and include this?
But I had this conversation myself, which is, you know, the more real that I can show up,
the more I'll attract the right people to me, the more I'll attract the right opportunities.
If I keep that blinded, I'm not really showing up as who I really am.
It's got to be based in fear somehow.
So if you go back to, we can either be fearful or be full of love and giving. I've got to move to,
you know, I choose love, I choose giving and I'm giving up myself and those right people will show
up. But have you ever had a moment like that where you're like, oh, I don't know, do I want to like
take this and open the store? I do all the time. And the reason being is because I'm constantly
growing and evolving
as a human being, right?
Like also something that has become very important to me
is faith and stuff like that.
And I don't like put it on people, like other people,
because I'm still figuring it out if I'm being honest.
I wouldn't even know, but I like to sprinkle it in a little bit
and just say what's on my heart.
And I'm not the same person, I'm gonna be two months from now.
And if I don't stay authentic, real and raw and talk about like what's on my heart. And I'm not the same person. I'm going to be two months from now. And if I don't stay authentic, real, and raw,
and talk about what's going on in my life at the time,
then it's like, I'm still trying to cater to the audience
when I first launched CLS.
And that feels in all that, I think, of a big honest.
Oh, it's so true, guys.
This is so good.
And I really, we're so aligned all the time.
It's so ridiculous.
I don't talk to you for two months.
And then we pick up right back at the same place
on page.
You know, what Craig was described is right.
Like if you're not evolving, you've got to show up
as that real you.
You've got to take these small leap of these
or large leap, you know, whatever that looks like
for you into figuring out, you know,
what is that next step, that next version of yourself?
And I'll tell you I had Con of Grady on my show
a couple weeks ago, and he would told me that he went
to speak to all these billionaires,
be billionaires, not millionaires, right?
And it was this big group of male billionaires.
So in some ways, the most successful people
out there, quote, unquote, from a financial standpoint, right?
And he said, at the end, one of the men
walked up to him and just said, son,
when you followed your heart, you followed your heart,
you followed your path, like how did you get basically
in awe, these people have more money than anyone
are in awe of this young man,
because he's out there preaching what you are.
He's out there preaching.
No, forget all the other stuff, pursue this.
He calls it pursuing your Everest,
like your personal big goal, your personal challenge,
pursue that, that's what you're really here for.
And it was such a disconnect of these people
who had only ever pursued money.
And he said it was so clear to him in that room
with these people that he had on a pedestal when he walked in.
They had him on the pedestal because they were saying,
wow, I wish I had done it that way.
So don't let this life slip by you.
Be like Craig.
Jump from the Wall Street job.
Start giving back, start creating
that community, start bringing your value and your passion forward. Craig, how can people
catch up with you and become subscribers to the podcast, become part of your mastermind?
Anywhere you listen to podcast, the CLS experience, we have the monthly CLS membership, we meet
every Wednesday, big guest speakers, networking about 500 people in there now. Just go to the
website, cultivatelasting thing symphony.com
And comes at high on Instagram at Craig Segal on the score CLS. I love to engage as you know
I love to interact don't be shy. Oh Craig. I am so grateful for your time today
I'm so grateful for you dropping all the wisdom and I'm so grateful for our friendship. Thank you for being here
This was so much fun. Thank you so much everything that that you do. A lot of the nuggets that you say
really resonate with me and they make me a better person. So love and respect you and can't wait for more.
Right back at you. Alright guys, until next week, keep creating your confidence. I'm on this journey with me.
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