Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Rock Your Life With Rock Thomas Episode 74
Episode Date: September 29, 2020Rock Thomas is the real rags to riches success story and he is dedicated to helping others find their financial freedom. Too many people are stuck in the weeds, stuck in fear, and stuck in complacency.... Rock encourages you to do what’s hard, change the labels other people have put on you, and define what you want. So much becomes easier when your mission is clear. Rock’s mission is to uplift others into living an authentic and healthy life. He followed his path towards joy, success, and freedom and now he knows that everyone has a path as well. All they need to do is believe it is there and follow it. About the Guest: Rock Thomas is the World’s #1 Whole-Life-Success Expert, bestselling author, and host of the #IAmMovement Podcast. From farm boy to real estate and business guru, mentor and self-made millionaire, Rock has studied one-on-one with the world’s best teachers — Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, Wayne Dyer, Robert Herjavec and more — on his mission to inspire others to create their best life, on their terms. His Goalcast video alone was viewed by over 100 million people. Using tools and strategies that are proven, Rock now teaches people how to create financial freedom by leveraging their purpose and passions to live not just a successful life, but a fulfilled one. Founder of the #IAmMovement, he is known as the man who redefines lives. 1. Host of the #IAmMovement Podcast 2. Founder and creator of multiple mastermind groups including the M1 Mastermind, a community of like-minded, success-oriented individuals who are committed to living a whole-life millionaire lifestyle. 3. Author of The Power of Your Identity & Your Epic Life Blueprint 4. Author and trainer of Top 10 Rules of Success (the 90 day Breakthrough challenge) 5. Creator & trainer of the cutting edge Sunday System for Success. 6. Speaker at various key personal growth and entrepreneurship events around the world. His speeches and content videos have been viewed over 100 million times collectively. 7. Teacher of accelerated strategies that help entrepreneurs triple their sales and growth using the proprietary models of (SEC and 1% Rule) Finding Rock Thomas: Website: https://rockthomas.com/ Facebook: @rockthomasofficial Instagram & Twitter: @rockthomas Buy his books:  The Power of Your Identity Your Epic Life Blueprint Listen to his podcast: Rock Your Money Rock Your Life To inquire about my coaching program opportunity visit https://mentorship.heathermonahan.com/ Review this podcast on Apple Podcast using this LINK and when you DM me the screen shot, I buy you my $299 video course as a thank you! My book Confidence Creator is available now! get it right HERE If you are looking for more tips you can download my free E-book at my website and thank you! https://heathermonahan.com *If you'd like to ask a question and be featured during the wrap up segment of Creating Confidence, contact Heather Monahan directly through her website and don’t forget to subscribe to the mailing list so you don’t skip a beat to all things Confidence Creating!  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm on this journey with me.
Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals.
We've come adversity and set you up for a better tomorrow.
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Hi and welcome back.
I'm so grateful you are back here with me again this week.
Okay, so as always, so much going on,
where do I begin?
I had put a post up on LinkedIn,
saying something like, as I said, you know,
three years ago when I was fired,
I had no idea these things were gonna happen.
And then I mapped out all the things that I didn't know.
You know, on that awful day when I got fired
and I thought my life was over.
And I was just sharing the story that if you get fired,
if you're in a tough time, you have no idea what's ahead of you.
And instead of focusing on the fear and the unknown,
you can flip that around and actually focus on the excitement about what's to come.
That was the whole point of the post.
Anyhow, someone sent me a DM that said something to the effect of your pathetic showcasing
that you were fired.
It was super negative.
And so I posted about that today.
And wow, did people flip out?
It's so interesting.
People will come to your aid.
People will take up in arms for you
when they see you being unjustly attacked.
Or it's very interesting.
Those are the things back when I was in corporate America.
I would have never posted about something like that
for fear of what the people I worked with
might say to me or be upset with
or they'd be uncomfortable since that's not the norm.
Here's what I've learned.
Being vanilla is just that.
It's vanilla.
Being your crazy, unique unique special self is amazing.
And when you show up and really are that real you, I feel like I'm one of the only people
in the world that puts getting fired to work for them. And that makes me different.
It makes me unique. A lot of people don't want to talk about getting fired. And I get
it super embarrassing at first. But now it's like my badge of honor.
I flipped the script on getting fired and getting fired is now like my calling card, right? That
wow, it can happen to anybody and it isn't about, you know, you could be doing the greatest job
in the world and have, you know, so many people love you and support you, but if that one person
or, you know, the company gets sold and a new leader comes in and they want their own people, it could have nothing to do with you at all.
Anyhow, so this post today was going crazy and so many people were taking up for me and
it was just so nice to see.
And so much support and love came from one person attacking me, showed me thousands would
come to support me and encourage me, which was super cool.
And says a lot about our world.
Sometimes it seems bleak, but there's way more good people out there than there are bad.
And the bad or the negative ones, it's really about them, their insecurity and something
probably really sad going on in their life.
So trying to find empathy for those people too.
Okay.
So it was so bizarre.
I've been talking about this the past couple of days
about this fired and then being attacked, whatever.
Someone came across my post and sent me a DM and said,
you can't believe this, I was just fired.
What do I do?
Heather, I'm flipping out, I don't know what to do.
Went on to tell me that his daughter was sick,
a very sad story.
I have a bleeding heart for people that get fired
because it is very easy for me to go back
to that highly emotional moment when I was petrified
capital P sitting on my couch.
I was like a zombie.
I didn't know what I was gonna do.
I couldn't imagine where money would come from. I was like a zombie. I didn't know what I was gonna do. I couldn't imagine where money would come from.
I was a wreck.
And so when I hear that someone's on the first day
of getting fired, I remember it as if it was yesterday.
It's so crazy that it's three years ago,
but I can put myself right back into that feeling.
And so I pick up my phone and I say,
give me your phone number.
I'm calling you right now.
Yes, I have a burner number.
So no one can ever call me back.
So that's pretty cool.
And if you don't have that, you have to get this app.
I think it's called text thread or something.
But anyhow, you can call other phone numbers
from that app and it changes your phone number,
which is super cool.
Because obviously you don't want to call strangers
that you don't know and allow them to reach back out to you.
Okay, sidebar got off topic there.
So I call this person and he's in it.
He's in the throes of it and I so get it and he's down and it was really interesting.
I'm so glad I had the opportunity to jump on this call with him today that I was home.
I was actually sitting here working on my new book and of course I'm looking for any excuse
not to sit and work on the new book. So I said yes, I will call you. So I call this guy. He's in it.
He's super negative. I don't know if he realized it, but he's saying, you know, I just, I got a
package which is great, but that's really only a month. And then I don't know how I'm going to
put food on the table. And I don't know where my next job will be
and I can't be picky, I should just take whatever I should get
and this is the worst time to be fired.
This is the worst time to look for a new job.
I should just go right back to a competitor.
I should, it was super, super negative
and I'm not knocking him for that
because I was the exact same way the day that it happened, right?
So I have a lot of understanding for that
and empathy for that.
However, I had to stop a mid-track.
I said, okay, dude, slow it, pump the brakes one minute.
Here we go.
Listen to your words.
And I said, who in the world told you
that now is not the best time to get fired?
You're saying it's the worst.
Why are you saying it's the worst?
You said, well, you can look in media
and more people unemployed than ever.
Less new jobs.
I said, I don't care.
Now is the time you were fired.
Now is the only time to get a job.
Listen, people said this to me
when I launched my coaching business.
Oh, you shouldn't do that in a pandemic.
No one has money.
That's BS.
Yes, a large percentage of the population
might be struggling financially,
but a percentage is not.
Right, so it isn't about all of the potential knows.
It's about that one potential, yes.
It's about that one right fit.
And the more we focus on that one right fit
or that one right client or the clients that do have the money,
the more we pull those people towards us
and we find solutions to attract them towards us.
So I apprised him of my opinion and suggested he changed
the way that he's speaking because if he is on the phone
with anyone and he starts talking like that,
that he can't be picky and he should take whatever he can get.
That's not attractive, right to any employer.
No, no, no, no.
People are attracted to those that see their own worth, know their own value.
And again, I'm not knocking him, I get it.
He's down.
This just whacked him and it's super painful.
I so understand.
However, 24 hours after I had that horrible day, I posted, I have just been fired.
And if I've ever helped you in any way in the last 14 years, I would love to hear from you today.
And I asked for help. And I shared that with him today. I said, if I was you, I would let people
know you've been fired. And I would let people know you need help. And then I would convert those
opportunities in the moment. So he agreed that that would probably be a good idea because no one knows he's been fired, right?
So if people don't know you're available, they aren't going to make offers to you. That's on you to raise your hand, ask for help and be clear with what you're asking for. was that post that I put up went viral, people were going crazy about it, because most people have been fired,
most people have empathy,
and most people want to help others, right?
The vast majority of the world is full of good people,
and if you raise your hand and say,
I need help, a lot of people are gonna say,
okay, I'm here, how can I help?
And that's really what allowed me to begin figuring things out.
Again, I had no idea what my future was going to look like or
how I was going to end up here three years later. God, I'm so glad this time has passed, though,
I would not want to go back to that day again. I was very, very hard and I've learned hard one wisdom
as a result of it. So it's been super, super valuable, but it was super, super hard in the moment.
So I talked about changing his word choices.
I talked to him about reframing the opportunity
and I talked to him about asking for help.
Those are really important things.
And then I said, well, tell me this.
Well, this could actually be the greatest thing
that ever happened to you.
I'm sure you didn't love your job every day.
And he said, no, not at all.
Okay, what did you love doing?
What did you like doing when you were a kid?
What are you doing your free time that you kid? What do you do in your free time
that you would do even if you didn't get paid?
And let's start there.
He goes on to tell me that he was a teacher for a long time
in the beginning of his career.
And his ex-wife asked him to quit that career
to pursue one that he could get paid more and get into sales.
But that was not his passion.
His passion was coaching and teaching.
It was very clear.
He knew exactly what he wanted to do.
And then he said, but this is the worst time of the year
to try to become a teacher.
And I started laughing again.
Who said, right?
Who said it is?
So I hear him out, I hear him out.
And I said, okay.
And he kept saying, well, I'm going to go back
to the insurance business.
He kept going, and this is very normal.
Because I had these conversations a lot with people
that they just assumed to go back to what you've always done.
I did not do that.
Super grateful, I didn't do that.
If I had gone back to what I had always done,
I'd be back in media,
back running some big publicly traded company,
only affecting the people in my team, in my company.
I wouldn't be on this podcast.
I wouldn't be talking to you right now.
I wouldn't have written a book.
I wouldn't have my TED Talk.
I wouldn't have my new book.
You know, I wouldn't have all these amazing things
that get to help so many people
and also allow me to shine my light and grow every day
and step into fear and realize my potential.
I would have never done any of those things
if I had just gone back to what I'd always done. I was really good at my old job and I put
all of those learning skills and techniques and strategies to work for me now as a consultant
as a coach and through my teachings, which is super cool. However, I'm so glad I just didn't go back
to what I had always done because people just get in that rut of, well this so glad I just didn't go back to what I had always done.
Because people just get in that rut of,
well, this is what I've always done. This is all I'm supposed to do.
No. You can take your unique skills, your unique assets,
and go anywhere you want and apply them.
And try different things.
So again, back to him, he loved teaching.
And now he says, well, this is the worst time of the year to try to be a teacher,
so I can't do that.
And I stopped him and I said, hang on a second, worst time of the year to try to be a teacher. So I can't do that.
And I stopped him and I said, hang on a second, I'm going to look at that through a different
lens.
What if this is the best time ever to be a teacher?
And he said, how so it's not.
It's not school already started and gave me all the reasons why it's not.
And I said, I'm going to give you one reason why it is.
I said, there's lots of rich people in the world with kids stuck in their home doing
Zoom school and the kids are not doing well.
They're struggling.
The parents are struggling because they're not teachers.
They're trying to work.
They don't have the time to deal with it.
They have additional resources, but not the time.
Nor do they have the talents to teach.
They don't know how to do that.
Let me just raise my hand on that one.
I have no idea what new math is and I can't help my son
with his homework.
It's crazy.
So, and please tell me that you're with me on that one
because new math is just, I don't even know.
I really don't understand it.
Okay, that's for good thing that I'm not
in the mathematician world.
So I said, there is this need out there.
There is this issue that people need help.
They need teaching. they need mentorship,
they need the skills and talents you have.
And he said, well, yeah, I have an MBA in teaching, I have all these recommendations for my work
as a teacher, I love doing it.
And that's right, there are people out there that have wealthy parents that need help and
I could actually get paid instead of sitting around my house feeling bad about everything. Ding, ding, ding, ding. So I said, okay, so do this. So he said, well, how am I going to find
those people? I said, raise your hand. You have all these amazing people in your network. You have
all, you have this great LinkedIn world and Facebook world and social media. Why not raise your
hand and say, is anyone out there struggling with their kids in Zoom School at home?
Raise your hand and tell people
how you're here to help shine your light.
You know, it's an amazing gift when you look at it like that.
Hey, I just got fired.
And while it is jarring and tough,
it's giving me this amazing blessing to return
to what I love teaching and helping students.
Can I teach and help your child
while they're working from home in Zoom school?
To me, that sounds like an amazing business.
At least it's something to re-engage him
on what he loves to do,
to reconnect with his passion,
and to get paid so he feels valuable.
And even just, this is so weird,
but I remember this, like it was yesterday,
the first time you make money,
like the first time I sold a book, like the first time I sold a book,
or the first time I sold a speech,
or the first time I got a check for my podcast,
those first moments, it validates and makes it real.
Like, oh my gosh, I actually am getting paid from this.
It doesn't matter if it's $5.
That's, it's irrelevant what the dollar amount is,
but that gives you that proof, that check is that proof.
There's value here.
And while I'm just beginning, I'm on day one of the first day I'm getting paid for it that check is that proof. There's value here. And while I'm just beginning,
I'm on day one of the first day I'm getting paid for it,
this is gonna grow.
And who knows what that trajectory looks like?
Who knows how fast this thing can take off?
And who knows how much money I'm gonna make from this?
But there is value here, it's crystallized, right?
It's real.
And that's a super powerful moment.
It was for me on every different endeavor I've been on as an entrepreneur,
whether my online video course sold on Teachable and I saw the money go into my bank account.
That was another aha moment.
Holy cow.
Things can sell while I'm sleeping.
That's so, oh my gosh, it's unbelievable.
You know, or when I did my deal with Harper Collins,
this is the first check of many to come from them.
That's what I see in my mind.
This is crystallized, this is real,
and this is just the beginning.
So I wanted that for him,
and I knew that if he sat around feeling bad at his house,
that was gonna fix nothing and take him and nowhere.
If he changed his wording, if he reframed the opportunity,
instead of seeing it as scary, see the flip side of it,
which it's exciting because the fact that you don't know reframe the opportunity instead of seeing it as scary, see the flip side of it, which
it's exciting because the fact that you don't know what's going to happen is super exciting.
If I had known on day one of getting fired what the next three years held for me, I would
have been so freaking excited, I would have been screaming and throwing a party instead
of sitting on my couch crying my eyes out.
Right?
So what I was asking him to do is kind of forecast your future
through the lens I'm sharing with you
that the next three years are gonna be amazing.
You're gonna reconnect your passion.
You're gonna grow a business.
You don't even know exists yet.
And you're gonna get that first check.
And then you're gonna forecast how big it's gonna actually
become.
So the talk's getting better, conversation's getting better.
And then he says to me, well, okay, I see what your idea is,
Heather, I think you're right,
my passion and purpose is around teaching.
I want to work with those kids.
Yes, I agree, there are some rich parents out there
that need my help, and I can add value,
I can do a great job.
He said, but then where do I go from there?
How is that a business moving forward after the pandemic?
And I started laughing.
And I said, I'm not asking you to forecast what your business will look like in the next year, because there's no way that I know
what my business is going to look like in the next year or anyone else does, because
things are so uncertain outside of us.
What I'm asking you to do is to find certainty within yourself and know that stepping into
this darkness, stepping into this unknown, but doing it following your passion and your
purpose will allow the way to be revealed.
The more you step into it, the more Zoom students you help, the more Zoom students you teach,
the more the opportunity will reveal itself.
We don't know if one of those really wealthy parents offers to bring him on full time
or works at a university and gives him a professor's position. We have no idea what lies ahead for him. All I know is it
begins with the first step. And for him, the way I left it with him on the phone
today was make the call, raise your hand, put the post up, reach out, ask for help,
and share with people that you're re-engaging with your purpose, your passion,
and reconnect with it, and ask who you can help now.
Take the action, put yourself out there, raise your hand,
and you don't have to know beyond that,
just take that first step.
I'm so glad I did.
I still want that for you.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I'm off on a tangent now,
and I have to introduce our guest today,
what I'm super excited for you to meet rock.
Okay, rock Thomas is the world's number one
whole life success expert bestselling author,
host of the IAM Movement podcast,
from Farmboy to Real Estate and Business Guru.
Mentor and self-made millionaire,
Rock has studied one-on-one with the world's best teachers,
Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, Wayne Dyer, love him,
and more on his mission to inspire others
to create their best life on their terms.
His goal cast video alone was viewed by over 100 million people,
million using tools and strategies that are proven rock
now teaches people how to create financial freedom
by leveraging their purpose and passion
or to live not just a successful life,
but a fulfilled one.
Founder of the I Am movement,
he is known as the man who redefines lies.
So I can't wait to hear what you think about rock
and we'll be bringing him back right after this.
We have different guests each week.
We're going to the church,
all of us, really.
And we're back and I'm so excited for you to meet rock,
Thomas. What's going on? Hey, I tell you what, I'm glad to be
well, not here in Miami with you, but with you. Well, I'm happy
even though it's by Zoom to have you here. So rock, as my
audience knows, I had a difficult childhood. However, I will
say digging into your amazing videos,
viral videos with over a hundred million views,
I've learned that I am not alone here
and I was hoping you could share that your backstory.
Probably everybody's had their own version of difficult
and even those that haven't had difficult,
they have to deal with trying to be perfect and different things so
we all have to deal with our childhoods and being bullied. In my case I was the
youngest of seven I grew up in a farm I had a Dutch German father who believed
in discipline and hard work and throwing you out to feed the 22 horses. I mean
at the age of eight and a half I think it's a little bit harsh up and
can it in the winters opening the barn door and seeing rats
and there was a lot of fear and I just learned to suck it up
and David Goggins it now as far as I call it. But you know, I
learned that in life, if you do what is difficult, then life
becomes easy. And if you do what is easy, then eventually, you're
going to come across difficult and it's going to be much
more difficult for you to have success. So I've turned into being a great employee, a great entrepreneur because you become incredibly
resourceful growing up on a farm.
Horses and annals need to be fed 365 days a year.
They don't care if it's Christmas Thanksgiving or birthday or you're sick.
And so I learned as an entrepreneur that there's always a way and that confidence comes from knowing that you can find the way
Versus most people are confident only when they're competent and there's another layer, right?
Tom Brady who I love sports metaphors or if you know, you're not people are in sports metaphors
I'm from Boston. So I'm all for Tom Brady. Okay
So if his best receiver goes down,
he doesn't go crying back to Bill Belich.
I can say, I can't play.
Suit up the next guy.
We make it work.
He could lose three guys.
He's still going to call the next play.
And I think that a lot of people in life
stop calling the next play.
They have fear, doubt, and worry.
And they let that stop them.
And they hesitate.
They lose momentum.
And then they shrivel up. And then they struggle. So that's been one of the benefits of going through
probably what you went through as a difficult childhood and I went through as you you'd
get a bit of the warrior kind of attitude.
You know for me it took a really long time to learn that that was a benefit right because
when you're knee deep in it, it's hard to see.
In fact, I was so paralyzed by fear in my early 20s
that, you know, it was almost the opposite effect, I would say.
Now, having hindsight, I can see it was definitely a benefit
that set me up for success.
But for a long time, I would see the people that grew up wealthy,
grew up with great parents.
And I thought, and they were like on this clear cut path success. And it just looked so easy. You never experienced that?
No, I did experience it. And it took me a long time. And I, you know, alcohol and drugs to
numb the pain, a feeling sorry for myself, and feeling alone, and feeling like I didn't fit in. My neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my neck, my And my nickname as a kid was bone dog and pizza face. And I was a skinny little kid.
I was shy and I did not speak.
And my brothers and sisters, I was younger.
It's the seven.
They would laugh at me and say, he can't even talk.
So I became even more introverted.
And then they called me pizza face.
So I hid in my room because I had acne.
And I didn't want to go to school.
So I stopped going to school.
I go pretended being sick.
So now it's not a good combination
thinking you're ugly and stupid,
not one that I recommend.
So when I was in my late 30s,
I met a guy who started asking me questions
and I told him about the story of pizza face
and he goes, you still feel that way.
You still have that version of yourself
even though you're now an adult.
And I said, yeah, you're right.
And he goes, do you want to change that?
What do you mean, change that?
He goes, you can change your identity.
It was totally foronding.
Long story short, he had me choose another idol, and I chose Clint Eastwood.
And he says, how do you describe Clint Eastwood in your mind?
I go, well, he's not pretty like Tom Cruise.
He's more like Ruggedly Hensom.
And as I said that, my face lit up and he goes,
say that again.
I go, Ruggedly Hensom.
He goes, that's it.
No more pizza face.
From now on, you rock Thomas are Ruggedly Hensom.
And that moment changed my life.
And I drove home.
I remember driving home, saying over and over again,
because this is what he told me,
the words that follow I am following you,
to say, I am, ruggedly handsome, I am,
ruggedly handsome, and I was crying, saying it,
because for the first time I realized
I could change the labels that had been offered to me
by people that didn't get a shit about my outcome.
They wanted to feel better about themselves.
And then I went on from, I'm a hard worker
to I work smart.
And I took my business from struggling sales person
to the top sales person.
Then I bought the company and the rest is history.
You just made that sound so easy.
And I have people asking me all the time,
I used to have a lot of negative self-talk in my head
where I beat myself up.
Why did you do that again?
You blew it.
What the heck's wrong with you?
You know, not outside.
People didn't know I was saying it,
but in my own mind, I was running that tape.
And I had to work for years.
I went through therapy.
I, you know, self-development work on my own, et cetera.
And ultimately, I ended up rewriting a script.
You know, and I am script that I wanted to say to myself.
It happened for me after I had my son because I didn't want him to grow up and make some of these same mistakes
I made.
So I worked really hard for him and then I started feeling better.
But for me, that took a long time.
I didn't have that crying moment.
For you, it sounded really connected in that moment with that ruggedly handsome.
I wonder why for some people, it is instantaneous
and for others it seems to take a lot longer.
Well, I don't know in your case,
but you may have learned how to disassociate your emotions
to survive and that's a really powerful skill to have.
And I do it too and I have done it and I'm capable of doing it.
And the best example is if you've ever had something happen
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And you didn't notice it, right?
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But it was one of those aha moments for me.
It was like a freeing out of a prison
that I didn't know I'd created for myself.
Because I wanted so much connection and love
with my brothers and sisters and to belong that I would do anything
I became the pleaser right I used to play monopoly with my brother and he would win every game and any game that he wasn't winning
He would accidentally knock the board over in the middle of the game. So my brain
Associated to I'm a loser. I lose all the time. And when I lose, people want me
around because he would play with me as long as I would lose. So it's amazing
the little subtleties that happen in our brain because the strongest, one of the
strongest forces is we want to connect and belong in this whole COVID thing.
It's been a real challenge for most people because you know, I don't know about
you, but I'm a hugger and a high fiver and all that so I see people and now they're like oh the elbow and they don't touch me and I'm like whoa it's
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difficult on people because it's the exact opposite they're saying you don't fit in you don't belong
I don't love you I don't like you, I don't like you, you're not enough.
So people develop coping mechanisms in mind was to become the pleaser.
But after a while, I tried that technique at school, I started to get beaten up.
People saw me this week.
So I didn't like that so much.
And then one day I became unleashed.
And I went after the biggest guy in school, jumped on his back and started
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But everybody else knew that I was fearless.
They were like, he will come a cause, he will hurt himself and I just don't want to go
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So I made a mark for myself.
So the unwinding of all of that
Heather is what you know you go to therapy for and you start to
cast some awareness around that. So yeah no it's it sounds very simple it was
not simple it was a lot of hard work and there's still process with it right I've
been in and out of relationships that's the part that's been difficult for me
because I put this demand on the women in my life to
give me all the love I didn't get as a kid, which is totally unfair. And it would last for a while
until it wasn't sustainable anymore. So, you know, it's a working progress.
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I appreciate you explaining that makes me feel better. So it's also an
interesting point you bring up which is that that which makes us incredibly
successful in a certain arena of life can also be what's holding you back in a different area
and to the relationship point as someone
who's been divorced and gone through this,
you know, a lot of it for me too,
went back to people pleasing and wanting to make people happy.
And now at 46 years old, I'm so good at saying no to people.
It's crazy, but I reflect back on how much money I gave up
when I was younger, how many opportunities I gave up
when I was younger, because I thought the idea of telling
someone no would hurt them or put them in a bad spot.
So in order to please, you know, you just, you'll just say,
yes, and I hear from men and women today,
a lot of people struggle with how to say,
no, how did you start teaching yourself to do that?
You know, it was a process.
And I'm somebody who likes to serve
and I have an incredible amount of energy.
So saying no is, in fact, I have a saying
is say yes and figure it out later.
And it's dangerous, Richard Branson says,
say yes and learn it later, which is the
same philosophy. But if you don't know what you want, it's easy to say yes to a lot of
things. When you're clear on what you want, it's like, hey, do you want to go to a yoga
class tomorrow? Yes. Do you want to go out tomorrow night and hang out with friends and drink
a two o'clock in the morning? Maybe. No. Like, you need to know what's important to you.
So I think I got really clear on what my mission was,
and my mission was to become wealthy,
and be as healthy as I possibly could,
to be a great dad.
And so I said, yes, to the things that were in a line
and with that.
That's really smart and simple and well said,
and that for me, the things that I hear from people
are smaller things.
So for example, someone asked me to go to a show and it was conflicting with something I had going
on my day. It's a can't bake it. Let's look at another date next week. And she came back and said,
how's that so easy for you? I just looked at my schedule and it didn't work, but I didn't have to
look at, wait a minute, does this align with everything that I'm doing? Sometimes there are
situations like that where it's a little bit easier, but for those bigger picture ones, I like that strategy to step back
and think about, does this align with my big picture goals? And it's funny because given this time of
COVID, things have changed, as you mentioned so rapidly, that even six months ago, my vision and focus
was on my speaking business and moving that forward, full steam and everything in business went through that lens. Is this going to elevate
this business? And it was easy to see, but as my business is evolving and things are changing,
it becomes a little murkier. You sometimes have to test things not knowing.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of times I said, yes, the things in, and I'm like, oh my God,
why did I say yes to that afterwards?
But you don't always know, but you know, you know this is a speaker and as a leader and as a coach is that most people are not clear on what they want.
They really aren't.
When I coach with people, the first thing I ask them is what do they want?
And most people, they tell me what they don't want.
And what you focus on expands, so I don't want to, I mean, with COVID, maybe not anymore, but I don't want to drive in traffic to work. I don't
want to have this ticket boss. I don't want to have to do overtime. I don't want
to say you everything you don't want. People need to spend more time focusing
on what they value and what they do want and how they can become free. I teach
people, you will be stuck in the rat race for the rest of your life unless you
do this one thing is you need cash cash flowing assets and there's three categories. Realistic, investing
in the stock market like Warren Buffett or owning a business. Otherwise, you're free.
And most will want to be free, right? They want to work when they want and do different
things. But if you don't put your money to work for you or you don't leverage systems in people, you're going to do everything. And the microcosm of that
is, do you do your shopping, do you clean your house, do you do your laundry, do you clean
your pool, cut your grass, wash your car. And so I help people develop but do not do
lists. So that gets bigger and bigger and bigger so they can do the things that fulfill them and that are dollar productive activities.
So they can truly live an epic life.
Miss one life we have, right? I think as far as I know, why not do stuff that makes you really happy and makes you a shit ton of money?
Because people believe that might be for you, but they don't believe that it's necessarily for them.
And it goes back to just in my experience
and the people that I have worked with
and had the opportunity to get some insights from
that self-doubt and that lack of confidence,
that lack of certainty within.
And oh, I should just be grateful for what I have right now
and shrink back into this small area that I've created.
Yeah, 100%.
The thing is people don't choose your tribe consciously.
How do people choose their career?
Most people do it because of proximity or pressure.
When I was 17 years old, my left home, the first job I got
was working for my sister's boyfriend because of proximity.
He was a manager of McDonald's.
I got a job at McDonald's.
Some people get a job because of pressure.
Their parents say you got to go to college, you need to become a doctor or a lawyer and
engineer.
So they go down that path, invest five years in their education or more, and they do the
job and they end up hating it.
I have a guy who is a CPA who hated his job, had a big student loan, came to see me, and
after we did this thing called Sacred Gifts, we out that it was he is the gift of teaching.
We introduced him to short-term rentals.
Today he has hundreds of clients
and he teaches how to do short-term rentals
or Airbnb online.
He has 28 doors.
He retired as mom, his wife, and himself,
and his three-year-old son, who had a heart condition.
And they needed to be around him all the time.
So him and his mother and his wife were rotating around the clock, never seeing each other.
They all now work together and they're financially free in two and a half years.
So people don't know what they don't know.
And there are beautiful vehicles out there that can meet somebody's skill, but you're a
hundred percent right, Heather.
People are like, oh, but I could not run a business.
I don't have that skill set.
I don't know how to invest in the stock market.
That's for other people.
For real estate, that sounds complicated.
Don't you need a lot of money?
But what if the toilet breaks?
So they talk to themselves out of it
because they're not in the right fish tank.
Need a fish tank where people are having that quality
conversation that helps you believe you can do it. are not in the right fish tank. Need a fish tank where people are having that quality conversation
that helps you believe you can do it.
So how do you suggest people find that fish tank?
Well, it's back to what we talked about before, as you got to know what you value.
Because a lot of people say they want to be financially free, but they don't really
want to. They just want to be comfortable. There's a reason it's only three percent of the population
that are wealthy, right? But if you're somebody who's really hungry
and you have a drive, in other words,
you have a work ethic and you're coachable,
then you look for the community that resonates with you.
So real estate, there's real estate groups all over the place.
There's people that do stock training
and you can talk to people that have different businesses.
The shortcut is you get in touch with me
because I've accessed all of that, right?
I mean, I've created a community eight years ago and I've created 64 whole life millionaires.
Doing that, all of my buddies are experts in these different fields.
So once we put you through our assessment and evaluation,
we see what your skills are, we say,
you would be probably really good at online sales or at speaking or coaching
or at running a real estate in this particular niche.
And by the way, you can't just stay static
because how do you think retail real estate's doing
these days, Heather?
Not very well.
Right, but a year ago it was the bomb, right?
Student housing, the same thing.
I just got out of my student housing
made 19% over three years, but right now, the same thing. I just got out of my student housing made 19%
over three years, but right now, not so pretty. So I'm shifting my assets into
industrial. Why? Because that's going to be the move. You're going to have
fulfillment centers because we're all going to be ordering online, the majority of
our stuff. And you need warehouses all over the world. And Amazon just announced
that they're coming out with
1500 warehouses in different cities so they can do the same day service to compete with Walmart and Target
So I'm moving my money into industrial and into self-storage because that's gonna be the next boom
The reason I do that not because I'm so smart
But the guys I hang out with that are worth a hundred million dollars
That's what they track they own transportation companies. They have their
year to the ground there, and I just follow this smart money. But if you're not in that room,
having that conversation, you're down earning three and six percent of return your money,
you're going to be poor for the rest of your life. Yeah, that whole concept scares people so much
to enter into a new arena where you don't have experience. Like you were saying before,
the lack of confidence stems from the lack of competence.
If they haven't done real estate deals
and they don't own real estate previously,
the idea to get in now where there's so much uncertainty
paralyzes them.
And for me, it takes you back to 08.09.
What I learned from that window was,
there was opportunity everywhere.
However, I had my head down in the grindstone,
just grateful to keep my job trying to outwork everybody
so that I could show I was worth
keeping around.
And I lost all those opportunities.
And it's interesting now to apply
that reasoning and that lens to today
because it's exactly, well, not exactly
because it wasn't an illness,
but in regards to another recession
and what's happening right now with
uncertainty everywhere, it's very similar.
Yeah, it's a great point is a lot of people are stuck in the weeds and they're just trying to stay
afloat because they're not following the principles of wealth creation. And so they don't teach it
in specificities fault. They teach you what? You know, go get a job and then get a good education,
get another job, and so people are just following the programming. But if you really follow the way wealthy people behave
in what they do, it's a completely different track. And once you get on that track, then you can
accelerate towards success. And that's, you know, for me, I've got, I think, 40 streams of income
and in real estate, I have books and online products, et cetera, et cetera. But once you get a few of
them that are passive or mostly passive,
then you can go focus on the next one and then go focus on the next one. And then before you know it, you're living off of 5 or 10% of your wealth and you have so much more to reinvest.
On one of the calls in the soonest COVID hit, I did 12 days of Zoom calls every day with a different
thought leader. And one of the conversations was around, where's the next opportunity?
And he goes, what platform are we using right now to communicate everybody?
Zoom!
And he goes, look at the price of Zoom stock.
And he goes, I'm not going to advise you to buy it, but I'm going to tell you to watch
it and make a decision for yourself.
It was around $100.
Do you have any idea what it is today?
I don't. Over 400. Oh my gosh. and make a decision for yourself. It was around $100. Do you have any idea what it is today?
I don't.
Over 400.
Oh my gosh.
So it's about a 350% return during the worst time
when everybody has their head down,
just trying to survive.
And yet, some of us made 350% on our money in six months.
So there's opportunity all the time,
but again, you've got to get into that
VIP room. When Elon Musk came out with his IPO 10 years ago for Tesla, had a good friend of mine,
and he said, rock, mortgage your house, and put everything you have into Tesla. And I go into what?
There's Tesla. You know Elon Musk, I know, I don't know him. And the stock came out at $17, Heather.
Today, it's over $2,000.
Was that a good enough friend
that you actually did mortgage your house?
Ha, ha, ha.
I know here's the point.
Is back then, I had a maybe a millionaire mindset,
but not a hundred millionaire mindset.
And that's exactly what happens to people. A lot of people that are struggling have a thousand millionaire mindset, but not a hundred million in our mindset. And that's exactly what happens to people.
A lot of people that are struggling have a thousand
in their mindset or a 10,000 in their mindset.
That's their thermostat, that's what they're used to.
So I wasn't ready to receive that opportunity.
So I didn't do anything.
Now, I have bought a Tesla myself the car last year,
and I've started to buy some of the stock,
and the stock has actually also gone up
300% this year. So better to be late to the party than not at all, but if you had put $10,000
into Tesla when it came out, you would have something like $4 million. That's a big multiple. It can
change your life. There are opportunities like that right now happening, but you got to be in the
right room. So I understand your got to be in the right room.
So I understand your point with being around the right people and I couldn't
agree more. You need people who are way further ahead of you so that they can help
destruction and grow you and bring you along versus the ones that want to hold you back
that have never been where you want to go, right? However, I still struggle with this personally
and with what I see around this money mindset concept because
personally for me, I've made more money when I was more scared and had a scarcity mindset
than I have when I'm really confident have a great mindset and things are mentally and internally
going fantastic. And I've seen countless people worth hundreds of millions of dollars who have major scarcity
mindsets, really negative.
It's almost shocking to me to see their level of financial success.
How do you explain that when you believe so strongly that there is a certain mindset that
attracts money to you?
You know, it's a great question.
Some people, you know, what we'll get you here won't get you there. Some people that are worth $100 million will still not buy the $5 bottle of water in the
hotel room and go downstairs and get the $1 bottle because that's what got them there,
right?
So there's a different conversation when it comes down to your emotional freedom and fulfillment.
There are people that are billionaires that are depressed and that are fearful. But it's a job emotionally to be able to release that. And it's been a process
for me. I just can tell you from my experience. So before I used to be very, very cheap and
frugal and was that way. And so the way I got myself out of it was there's a system called
the Six Bank Accounts from T. Harbacher. Have you heard of it? No. So you divide your money into six bank accounts, 50% for your necessities, and then five of
their jars.
One of them is a fun jar.
One of them is pay yourself first.
Another one is give, another one's education.
So I learned to take my money and divide it up, and then the fun jar, you have to spend
every month.
Now, if this friend of yours had a fun jar, he would realize that he could spend $100,000
a month and it would totally not wreck his budget. So for me, I remember two years ago,
was every time I went on vacation, I could spend $500 a day. And then it's my wealth went up,
it became $1,000 a day, and then $1,500 and then $2,000 and then $3,000. So when I go on vacation,
I get there and the hotel room say it was $600 bucks for a night and I'm like, yes, 600 bucks
Okay, $2,400 more to go for today. How much of the massages?
They're only 185. All right, we'll take two and I have to I have to spend the three grand every day
because if I don't that programming from not
ordering a big Mac with cheese on it and saving 15 cents from cheese,
not that I eat that anymore,
was so hardwired in me to get me to be successful
because every dime I reinvested,
no longer serves me long term.
And so that gentleman just hasn't gone through there
or woman has not gone through that process
of realizing that we just form money personality types.
These are the things we go through
to help release people emotionally,
because from what the thinking that got you here
will not get you to bear.
And that is so absolutely true,
and I've seen that so many times in my life,
you can achieve a certain level of success
and cap yourself unless you're willing
to innovate, take risk and try to grow from there.
You've pointed to the people that you're surrounding yourself with. What are the other things that are critical for
someone to get to that next level other than the people they're surrounded with?
I wrote a book called Your Epic Life Boop Root and I have 10 rules. I believe
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reframing. So when I was 40 years old I lost all my hair to alopecia and it's a
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I was going through a divorce.
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And, you know, the power of questions creates focus.
And so people were saying to me, are you okay?
Are you dying?
Is this what's wrong with you?
So I started to doubt myself.
I was like, instead I started to research it
and I finally just figured out what it was
and I was then a little bit reassured.
But at the same time, it changed my entire look.
And I questioned myself at 40 years old.
People are going to think I'm old, I'm bald.
What if they think I'm ugly? I love bald. What if they think I'm ugly?
I love them.
What do they think you're ruggedly handsome?
Exactly.
And imagine the power of the brain that played those tapes.
I have no eyelashes, no eyelashes, no hair in my nose.
When it's cold in Canada, it's not comes out my nose because the hair is there to stop it.
I know all these things happening
that created doubt and insecurity,
but there is a way around it.
You can ask yourself a better question.
So I said to myself, what's great about this?
And my brain first said, well, there's nothing great
about losing all your hair.
And I said, well, what could be great?
I'll never have a bad hair day.
That's great.
I don't have to spend money going to get my hair cut.
And I don't know, spend money going to get my haircut. I
don't know. I spend minutes less getting ready of the buy shampoo and I started to feel great about
it. So there's a power in reframing. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% the meaning you give it.
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is it you have no hair in your body?
It's so easy to massage you, right?
And I was just like, elevation.
And that's really it.
And so then I started to get the references of how great it was.
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So hearing you explain that, and I'm not trying to say I
understand what that's like, because I've never gone
through that.
So I imagine that would have been horrific
the moment it happened.
It reminds me the day I got fired from corporate America.
Everything seemed to be bleak.
There was nothing good.
I had lost everything.
That was the only way I could see or think.
And other people would say,
no, you're so talented.
No, you don't understand Heather,
but I couldn't hear anyone.
And it took me, I'd say about 30 days
to be able to employ what you're suggesting right now.
I couldn't do it at first.
However, because I was able to reframe that situation
and make it work for me instead of against me,
ultimately, it took me a month.
But once I was able to implement that strategy
in my life and in my business,
now, henceforth, I'm able to very quickly,
when COVID hit, I'm real fast at now.
It just keeps every time you employ that strategy,
which is 100% correct around the reframe,
it becomes easier and easier and more natural
and don't you see yourself jumping
and I'm gonna have to think about it anymore.
It's like a muscle, right?
It's just like a muscle gratitude practices or a muscle.
What's great about this?
I mean, I have bands now that say what's great about this.
I do talks on it culturally and my business is something goes wrong and employee quits
or you get fired or something changes or computer system breaks down or like just whatever.
And the general common culture in my organizations is okay. what's great about this how do you pivot how do you make it work and I learned that really on the farm is you know the the pipes that brought water to the horses in the field would get frozen in the winter and then you had to carry buckets and you go what's great about this well nothing was great about great about them then, but you know what, it made me stronger.
It was like a shoulder workout.
And so you learn over time that you have a choice, right?
You can have a pity party or you can make the best of it.
So successful people I could talk to about before Tom Brady.
He doesn't give, I remember when he was down 27 points
or whatever it was in that famous game, third quarter,
and he marched up and down the bench and they have a recording of it and he goes, don't let doubt in your mind. We are coming back,
right? And doubt is the devil. And most people allowed doubt to come in because they don't look
to reframe the opportunity. And there's the five stages of grief that you should go through,
because sometimes just schlepping it off when something happens and not going through it emotionally, it'll
boomerang on you later.
It's okay to be angry, it's okay to be sad, but you want to be conscious of it so that
when you get to the acceptance piece, you can have peace with it versus just racing there
and then later, you know, that's the person that cuts you off and then everybody
starts arguing, it's never because of the cutting off, it's because of something else that
happened that now was an outlet, poetic girl, right?
So true.
And I believe Tom implemented that same strategy from week one of the NFL and Tampa to his
second week because he was able to completely turn it around.
You saw a different player and different team out there.
So, yeah, the sports analogy is such a good one
because we can actually see it live on TV
from week to week happening.
And as well as I was watching the Celtics and Heat
and the playoffs right now
in the same exact thing, the first two games,
the Heat owned it, but the momentum completely shifted
to the Celtics in the last game.
So in order for the heat to emerge again,
they're gonna have to find that way,
not to let doubt in,
because once that takes off,
those dominoes just keep on rolling.
You know, it's interesting you say that
because real competitors,
they actually love the art of competing.
It's really like it's not the Super Bowl.
It's being up against the best other athletes in the world
and having to constantly search for your higher self, the best part of you, the part that doesn't play
the victim, the part that wants to be even more. And I think that's why relationships, intimate
relationships are so difficult because we open ourselves up vulnerably to want to be needy,
like get attention or be special or important. And then if that person doesn't provide
that expectation at the time, you feel so make it and so
open. We're in a sport, you can kind of just man up and call
the next play and go hard at it. So it's really interesting to
watch the desire to be our very very best and what are the tools and resources and and that's you know
It's been my life's passion is to find the ways to do that and to help other people find the ways to do that
But there is a path rule number 10 in my book is there is a path
There's a path for you and there's a path for me to have everything we want and just like on a great
Duray hunt think about the energy on a great, great, great hunt,
think about the energy of a child on an Easter egg hunt,
positive anticipation, curiosity,
looking high and low, excited,
belief at a very high level that there are eggs out there.
Imagine if people got up every morning believing
that things were gonna be awesome.
Wonderful things were going to happen.
That they could make a difference.
That the path for their joy and success and happiness was there.
They just had to be putting in the effort to go find it.
And so that, I think, is a really big part of that.
Unfortunately, as a culture is not really encouraged.
Why are you so enthusiastic and passionate, Rock?
Come on, man. Just come have a beer, man.
You're going to work again, are you? So and passionate, Rock? Come on, man, just come have a beer, man, you're gonna work again, are you?
So we beat each other down.
So that's why I go back to what I said before.
I selfishly created my own tribe eight years ago,
and I continue to seek and find out,
find bad-ass people to include.
And this is the price of membership,
is you've got to support,
encourage or challenge each other,
support, encourage or challenge. There, support, encourage or challenge.
There's no blame in criticizing and complaining.
That's for the real world out there.
But in our world, you either support, encourage or challenge.
So I might ask you Heather, what is one of your goals?
You'll tell me your plan, your strategy,
and I have a job, which is either to support,
encourage or challenge you.
It could be, hey, did you think of this?
Or do you need that resource?
Oh, I know, John, he's doing that too.
Maybe you should reach out to him and you guys could collaborate or get him insight.
I think that's much better.
Yeah, of course, it's much better.
But that goes back to that age old advice that your family wants to give you or these people
that are surrounding you.
They're trying to protect you.
And in fact, it's trying to protect you. And in
fact, it's kind of holding you
down versus what you're talking
about, which is curating the
people that you're selecting and
picking who are ahead of you
and of like mindset, successful
and really trying to stretch you.
And for me, I know I've fallen
into that, okay, oh, everyone's
looking out for me. I shouldn't
go do this. That's too risky for
a long time. I fell into that and it took a very conscious decision
making tactic to say, okay, I can no longer take advice
from people who are not near where I wanna go
or haven't been there successfully.
And that's something that I constantly stop myself
and say, wait a minute, is this a person I should be taking
advice on this topic from?
No, typically nine out of 10 times, it's a big no.
And less like you said, it's people like
chosen to bring around me for that purpose.
Yeah, Ray Dalio in his book, Principles, he says,
triangulate with people of merit.
People of merit, listen to people that have merit in that area.
If you want to improve your nutrition,
well, maybe somebody who for 25 years they've studied nutrition and they've looked at it from left
right and center. That might be a quality conversation to listen to. But listen to the person
beside you saying, you know what, a couple of burgers a week, it's not going to make a big difference.
It might not be the best advice, right? Or when you get called from somebody that wants to invest your money,
and they're really just a broke stock broker
that's looking to add to their portfolio,
another client, but they've never invested more than $10,000.
I don't even invest with that.
I invest with people that have more money than me, right?
It's so funny that you say that the first story
that popped into my mind is that most of the time
it's not intentionally
bad advice and I'm not a nutritionist at all,
never have been.
And my son called me, I was with my trainer
outside the other day and he called me
and he said, hey, can I get Uber Eats
while you're on your way home?
I said, oh sure, because I feel so bad for my son
and he's in quarantine and anytime he wants something
like a treat, I think, oh great. Yeah, let's do it.
I want to keep him happy.
And my trainer hears the call and I hang up and she lit me up.
And it was a great point she made.
She said, you're harming him.
And of course, as a mother, I would never harm.
That's not my intent, right?
I'm trying to help him feel better.
But when she explained it to me in the way that she did, she was like, okay,
here's what I suggest you do,
and here's something that can help him,
and here's something you can feel good about,
and he'll feel good about long term.
Here I was as a parent trying to do something
to make my son feel better.
I was actually harming him inadvertently,
and it took an expert on the outside
to bring my attention to that.
And it was just kind of a,
it was a cool experience that sometimes we think
we're helping and we're not.
And that's again, back to, it's just so valuable
to have an expert around.
Yeah, I mean, we are ultimately going to give
into our environment.
So that's why I went on this quest to collect people
that are smarter than me, better than me, healthier than me,
you know, like this, the industrial deal I'm going in,
the guys worth $100 million.
So that's, there's a track record there. There's a history of experience and the board of directors
are also many of the multi-multimultimultimillionaires or worth more and those people are making decisions
based on a big picture and decades of study. So that makes me feel very confident
about the investment versus,
my bank wants me to invest in a mutual fund
that'll make 68%.
You know, come on, man.
But that's not gonna get me to where I wanna go.
So, but finding the people,
and there are also people who screw you over
and people that are not truthful
and people that will be Duponsi schemes. So it's a bit, you know, it's a lot of work
to navigate through that. And sometimes people just get tired and go, you know what, I'll
just put it in the bank at 3%. I just can't, you know, or they get hurt. I've been, you
know, it's not gone the way I wanted to in some investments. And then you're like, man,
if I had just done nothing, I'd be better off.
So you got to navigate through all of that.
And it goes back to how badly Heather,
do you or I want the greatest life possible?
And what are we willing to do?
I think it's rocky that says, it's not how hard you punch.
It's how hard you can be punched and get back up.
It's so true.
So tell me about the 90 day challenge.
So what we discovered is that 90 days are really sweet spot
for people to make a transformation.
Some people say 21 days of change, I have it 66.
I don't know.
I think it all has to do with the intensity of your intention.
When I got in my car and I was like, I'm ruggedly handsome,
I'm ruggedly handsome.
Or I could say, I'm rugged ugly handsome, it's different, right?
So the more you use your physiology,
the more intensity, the more you have energy around it,
the more you can make a transformation.
You can make a snap like that.
Have a car accident while you're texting,
you may never text again and you may tell
all your friends not to do it either.
But have a near brush miss or what have you,
you know, you may still do it.
So the 90 day challenges about taking the top 10 rules,
the things that allowed me to become a millionaire,
and the things that I teach all the people in my mastermind groups,
and creating the habits and rituals around that.
If information transformed people's lives,
and you know this, so I'm speaking to the preaching that converted,
is if information transformed everybody,
everybody would have the results they want because everything's available on Google.
But information is not transformation. It's the application of information that transforms. So in a community of people that every week are discussing in a mastermind setting, each rule or habit every week, and then going out and playing with it and practicing it and then coming back and getting feedback. That's how you transform. Tom Brady will
stay with that one, you know, after the first game where he didn't win it, he
went back, they reviewed the homes, they looked, they tweaked, they adjusted. He
said, Hey, this is the first time you're playing in competition with these
players. Now go here, go here, go here, and you look to way better in the second game.
And that is the simple formula. Information with practice and then feedback and then information
with practice and feedback leads you to mastery. So for 90 days, we walk people through the what I
believe are the 10 habits of the millionaire mind. And then you have this foundation that you can
rest any vehicle or any
goal you want in your life upon for the rest of your life. And so we're really excited about that
and that's a process that's worked for a lot of people and it's the corners. Don't know what I
teach you. I've seen massive change in people I've worked with in 90 days and I can't agree with
you more that you know 30 is just too short of a window to see real transformation. It's great to start implementing some standards and understandings of what
the principles people need to implement, but to watch some type of transformation
and growth, you've got to have those 90 days to really crystallize it and see some results.
Yeah, and you know, with technology today, what happens is they get a video.
They'll probably get tired of my voice after a while, but they'll get a video with each rule
for about 15 or 20 minutes that I just read it.
This is a course I've had for over 12 years, and I just brought it to the modern age,
the language changes with social media and everything, and they used to be 45 minutes
long, so we're more like 20 minutes now, get in, get out, and then you get on a call and
a Zoom call with other people, 30, 40, 50 people.
And you get into breakout sessions.
You start to discuss the rule and their perspectives,
and you have coaches in the environment.
And then you start to really wrap your head around it,
and then you go out and implement it,
and then you come back, and you have an accountability now,
to, okay, so what did you do?
How did that play out?
And so the application now isn't just you reading a book on your own or you just downloading
a course because the finishing rate on downloadable courses is about 6%.
People need community more than ever now.
So I love what Zoom has done in the breakout rooms and then in 90 days you're going through
this process and you actually get to own these new habits and it creates a lifelong. I got a guy who did the
course. He was selling basements up in Canada. It's where they raised the house and they put in new
foundations, the old rooms. And he was a very average salesperson. He smoked, he was about 30 pounds
overweight, didn't really work out, you know, his typical once or twice, go into the gym, single guy, and he took the course and
no exaggeration. Within the 90 days, he got his ass in the gym, lost 20 pounds, quit smoking,
quit drinking, and then within 90 days after the completion of the course became the top
salesperson, tripling the sales and beating
all other three salespeople in sales. Then he put his mum on the course. She was a CPA, he loved
it so much. And during the time his mum was on the course, he met his fiancee and got married.
Bam! All of that from one course. And he rewrote the course, took notes, and sent me a book
on what he wrote. And he said, this is my Bible for the rest of my life.
Now, that's not a testimonial.
I don't know what is.
And I could go on and on with many others,
but that's, that was pretty freaking epic.
Now, you asked me why I do what I do.
That's pretty fulfilling.
That's an obvious why.
I mean, the fact that I think one of the hardest things people
can do is to stop smoking.
I believe that's one of the top three things
that be in their lives, right?
So just that alone is epic.
When you stack all the other things
and we've helped people lose a hundred pounds
that struggled their whole life,
we had one woman that was abused as a child
and she had carried 60 pounds of protection
with her entire life.
She was able to shed that and release that.
Her husband, who was a teacher, quit his job when he saw what she did.
And then he took the course and he now owns seven Arabian bees and he's a life coach.
I mean, I'm telling you, it's pretty epic stuff. It's very gratifying.
And that's why we call it the journey of the whole life in the arena.
It's not just about creating money. It's holistically, I believe you can have it all.
You can be in great shape. You can have great communication and connections and relationships.
You can become a better son. Five years ago, I bought a house for my mom. She was in a
senior assisted living. I bought a house for her, moved her into the house.
She lost 40 pounds, does gardening.
I mean, there's so much you can do on this planet
if you have the right toolbox.
And this is a really cool toolbox, I believe.
So how can everyone find that toolbox?
You can go to rocktomest.com, forward slash VIP.
And you'll find some tools there.
You can go to my website, of course, rocktdowns.com. You can follow me on social media.
I'll let you get a lot of free information.
I have a podcast called Rock Your Money, Rock Your Life.
And you'll learn a lot of free stuff there as well.
So, I mean, we'll meet you wherever you're at.
We're happy to take you from wherever you are, wherever you want to go.
And then I have some mastermind groups, which is a whole year long thing.
And we do trips together. Yeah. We're happy to take you from wherever you are, to wherever you want to go. And then I have some mastermind groups,
which is, it's a whole year long thing
and we do trips together.
Yeah, so check it out there.
I'll include all of those links in the show notes rock.
Thank you so much for being here
and continue your good work
and turning people's lives around.
It's amazing to see.
My pleasure.
Remember, man, rock your money,
you can get to rock your life.
Whole tight will be right back. I, you can get to rock your life. Whole tight will be right back.
I ask you to try to find your passion.
I hope you loved meeting rock as much as I loved sitting down
and getting the chance to speak with them.
Okay, let's cut to Q&A.
I got a bunch of questions this week
from all over the place, Instagram, LinkedIn,
Facebook, Twitter, everywhere.
You can find me anywhere.
Okay, first one, here we go.
Hey Heather, I hope this message finds you well.
Thank you.
For the last two years, I have been severely,
verbally abused and bullied by my boss.
This is taking a toll on me and my family,
and I need to get a new job.
I was wondering if you could help me
any advice is welcome.
I'm in the education field.
Okay, first of all, I'm gonna go to this. Number one welcome. I'm in the education field. Okay, first of all,
I'm going to go to this. Number one, if you're in the education field, why not start your own
business on the side and start working with people remotely as someone who is helping these kids
that are in Zoom School. You can charge a lot of money. You can charge a premium. There are
opportunities out there. I know there's a need as I am a parent who has a child in Zoom School and I don't know how to help him, right? So there's a business that
you can create and start now today and you can do it after hours of your
existing job. If you want, if you so choose, you can do it at night and on the weekends,
you can help people, you can make money and create a path to get out of your situation.
The most important thing, and I talk about this a lot, is firing your villain.
You have a villain in your life.
You need to fire that villain.
Don't let me mince words here.
Fire that villain.
Walk in there and quit that job.
It is the most important thing for you, your sanity,
your family, and your health.
So walk in there tomorrow and quit,
and you will figure out where you go next,
whether it be starting your own business,
because you're going to work virtually
with kids in Zoom schools,
whether it be you put out there on social media
that you had to leave your job
because you were being bullied at work
and that you're looking for a great place to work
with good people.
Update your resume and send it out to everybody that you know.
Go take an inventory of all the testimonials you have of, you know,
what's great about working with you and start promoting that.
Send that out to people.
Ask people to connect you to different opportunities.
But make it known.
You are free, eligible, and looking for work and start working immediately
on these one-on-one opportunities
where you can work with kids remotely.
I really believe that the most important thing you do
is go in there and quit and get away from someone
that's bullying you, verbally abusing you,
fire that villain now, and the opportunities will come to you.
Okay, hey Heather, I've been following you
since your James, I'll to share podcasts a few few years ago. Yay James, you're doing great work
and I engage with your LinkedIn often. I pivoted this year on business from a
product company to consulting. We work with tech resellers to help them sell
software and services. The challenges these guys are struggling this year big
time. I'm connected to most of my target audience. I'm linked in and write many blogs and do videos to help them. That being said,
how can you help me? So I asked for clarity. I said, what is the actual problem you are looking to
solve? I don't understand. Are you trying to drive more clients to your clients? I'm not clear.
And he said, yes. He said, he needs more clients that will pay him for his work.
We work with them to upsell cross-sell their existing customers on new solutions.
So a few things here.
One is I really need to look at how you're marketing yourself, right?
Because marketing is everything.
You can have a crappy product, but if you have amazing marketing, you're going to do a lot
of business.
It's sad, but it's true, right?
You might not have a lot of reoccurring business, but you're going to pull people towards you. So people are purchasing right now
on a need basis. Something appears to be something they need, not a want, which is the way people
used to buy on a want basis. And that's changed because of the pandemic. How can you position
your product and services as a need? So this person needs to look at his business as, okay, here's the problem
that I solve. Here's why you can't afford not to work with me. And then I would give
very specific examples, case studies, and testimonials to your work. So people know there's credibility,
expertise, and that, you know, you get the job done. I'd offer 100% money back guarantee.
How can people even question that when you say,
I will guarantee results.
I do that with all of my coaching programs,
all of my consulting.
I know I'll get results.
So stand behind your words,
stand behind your business,
really take a hard look at how you're marketing,
leverage your credibility,
your expertise, your testimonials,
and lead first with the problem
that you're solving for people.
That's the best way to really get their attention. And then showcase as why they need to work with you. Okay, hey Heather, I absolutely
love your posts. I wish I could hire you as a coach, but I can't afford that right now. I've
been a speaker for 15 years. Now I know I deserve to be a highly paid speaker. My question to you
is how did you get past all of the negativity from the jobs you had?
I am still having trauma from experience back in January. I'm even talking to a therapist about it hoping that as my business venture grows
It will solidify exactly why I'm on the path I'm on. I can no longer
work for anyone else. My dream is to be a well-paid, and to give a TEDx talk to and even a podcast
when you were growing your brand, did you know that you were going to do all three of those
things, or did you just focus on one?
I had no idea.
If I don't make this clear, I had zero idea what I was going to do when I got fired.
None.
The only thing I did know is that I would take action and figure it out along the way,
which is exactly what I did.
And, you know, me putting a post up that I got fired
led me to the Elvis Durant show.
He told me I was writing a book.
I took that conviction that he had, and I ran with it.
I wrote a book, and I self-published that book.
And then I googled, how do you sell books?
And it said, speak.
And I said, great, I've been speaking for years.
And I just cold-called companies.
And I set up a speaker circuit for myself.
Then someone said, what's your fee?
And I Googled speaker fees.
And I saw how much money people got paid.
And then I Googled speaker agencies.
And then I started pitching myself to these speaker agencies.
And then I took the one that I landed.
And I leveraged that to get the rest.
And then I Googled other ways to sell books
and it said, pop, be a guest on podcast.
And I started turning up as a guest on every podcast
under the sun until finally I realized,
I need my own podcast.
And then I pitched myself for a podcast.
And then I took a breath from my podcasting
and I pitched myself for a TEDx talk. And then I pitched myself for a TEDx talk.
And then I prepped for my TEDx talk.
So I never knew any of these things were in the big plan.
You know, it wasn't like I had some strategy
when I got fired.
I just kept taking action and one thing kept leading me
to the next.
And yes, there was many obstacles in the way.
I just didn't allow them to stop me.
I stayed focused on solutions and clear on my goal
that was ahead of me and you can too.
Okay, so I think that's enough questions for today.
We are going to shell the rest till next week.
I hope that you got some value today.
I hope you're out there creating your confidence.
You know that I am.
I've got 60 days left to get my book done.
I am so I've got 60 days left to get my book done. I am so
and I can't wait. If you have any stories, issues that you want me to make sure that I include
in the book, please drop me a DM, send me a note at my website, HeatherMonningand.com. I would
love to hear from you. Until next week, keep creating your confidence.
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