Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - The Key to EXPONENTIAL Success in 2022 with Aaron Bare Episode 211
Episode Date: April 26, 2022In This Episode You Will Learn About: The exponential growth mindset Positive self talk Unlearning & reprogramming our brain Resources: Website: www.aaronbare.com & https://exponentialtheo...ry.com/ Subscribe to his newsletter Register for XMBA- Exponential Mindset, Beliefs, And Attitudes coaching program Read Exponential Theory: The Power of Thinking Big LinkedIn & Facebook: @Aaron Bare Twitter & Instagram: @aaronbare Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Show Notes: How you talk to yourself, is EXACTLY how the rest of the world is going to talk to you too. That is why you must be aware of negative self-talk! You can grow exponentially when you let go of the negativity from the past and unlearn the harmful thought patterns you have picked up. With his award winning digital strategy firm and successful Exponential Mindset coaching program, Aaron Bare is here to share how WE can unlearn our bad habits, reprogram our minds, and create the exponential growth mindset!  About The Guest: I couldn’t be more excited to introduce today’s guest, Aaron Bare, who’s life’s purpose is to create 1 million exponential leaders! He is the Wallstreet Journal and USA Today Best Selling Author of Exponential Theory and the creator of the XMBA - Exponential Mindset, Beliefs, And Attitudes coaching program! His innovation strategies have been implemented in over 500 companies and ALL 50 states, and was highlighted as one of the 10 leaders to watch in 2022. If You Liked This Episode You Might Also Like These Episodes: How Your Mindset Can Change EVERYTHING For You with Heather! Stop Anxious Chatter & Harness Your Inner Voice with Ethan Kross Ashley Stahl on Making a You Turn: Finding a Career that Honors You Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How you talk to yourself is how the world's gonna treat you, too.
So if you really embrace this
idea of your past, you have all these things you've learned. What do you need to unlearn or reprogram?
You're actually perfect the way you are. There's nothing wrong with you. It's just the matter is
that you maybe picked up some bad habits. We are our habits. So if we always talk to ourselves
in a way, all these things like a war going on and COVID and all these things that we put
limitation ourselves, that's only going to create COVID and all these things that we put limitation ourselves,
that's only gonna create our future.
Because the only thing we control right now
is the thoughts we have and our thoughts
end up becoming words,
which ultimately become actions if we take them.
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Hi, and welcome back.
I'm so excited for you to meet Aaron Bear.
His life's purpose is to create one million exponential
leaders.
He is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling
author of exponential theory and the creator of the XMBA exponential
mindsets beliefs attitudes group coaching program beyond traveling to over 90 countries
and all 50 states. I don't know how he has time for that. Aaron has facilitated innovation
and strategy at over 500 companies. He's highlighted as 10 leaders to watch in 2022. Listed on 50 under 50 leaders, 40 under 40, 35 under 35,
entrepreneurs and his company has been awarded
most innovative company in the US.
His award-winning digital strategy firm has clients such as Google,
Council for Foreign Relations, Coca-Cola,
maybe you've heard of a few of these.
Hardly Davidson, Emerson, the list goes on and on.
He's also a certified big historian,
certified professional philosopher,
and was the creator of the Oxford leadership
online certified coach.
This is insane.
He's a former entrepreneur in residence
at Thunderbird School of Global Management
and Singularity University at NASA.
He currently focuses on helping individuals explore ancient wisdom,
repeating histories, and modern science through his XMBA program that focuses on unlearning,
reprogramming, and creating the growth mindset to ultimately create exponential mindsets,
police, and attitudes. Aaron, thank you so much for being here, so excited to speak with you.
Thank you, other thanks for having been looking for this conversation for the last few weeks.
So glad to finally get to it.
Okay, that is a crazy bio.
And my sense was, you know, anytime that I interview someone
who's very, very successful in business
or has written a strong business book,
there tends to be a lot of tactical business.
Take where he's tactical, you know, strategies
around business, but what was different about your work, your book, your content is there is a very strong
through thread that I saw in regards to growth mindset, personal development.
I haven't seen before these merge together in such a way.
Do you see yourself and is a little bit different in business and success leadership in that regard?
Yeah, so Heather, I got a, I mean, I'm probably an overthinker and that's where I've spent a lot of time thinking about these things of how to build a leader and
leaders, I think you start personally, you know, and then professionally then organization.
The book really represents some of the organizational strategies of exponential thinking and theory,
but we start
really in the book at the personal level. How do you have the belief systems to actually create
exponential things? It's part of an architecture that over a time, if you're going to be an
exponential thinker and really think big about the world, then you've got to start with yourself
and your own limiting beliefs. What are your beliefs about the past?
What trauma that you're holding on to?
What baggage?
What are your limitations?
Your regrets?
All these things that, you know, were learned, you know,
and I think you learn guilt and learn shame and some of these very negative things
where we need to unlearn it because we're perfect as human beings
and we come into the world.
We come in as love and you know and sometimes we're beaten down into these people that have resistance
to all the things around us.
And then thinking about the future, we have stress worries, anxieties that it won't go
the way we think, instead of just being in a moment where we control that.
And that's part of my XMBA group coaching program is really to get people
so they're really in that current mindset so that they can then start thinking bigger and every day
where in that program is to challenge people to think bigger than they did yesterday and it's the
idea that 1% gain every day gives you a 37x result in a year. So part of that is that becomes an
exponential curve pretty quickly, as long
as we can get you out of the past and not worried about the future or doubts or whatever
it is that you think won't happen because the reality is you and I right now, there's
no other moment that matters because we're right here right now and we're making the best
of this we possibly can. And if we're not, we shouldn't be in this moment.
I agree with everything you said and I'll tell you something funny came to mind and everyone listening at Noz's this,
is I had a moment where I think I think bigger
than anyone and everyone out there.
I think every day I wake up and it's almost
to a detriment of me that I'm always pushing me on below.
So what's the next thing?
And how can I turn my new book into a movie?
And how can I, you know, I drive myself crazy going bigger.
However, I learned a couple of weeks ago,
I was on a call with I have a creator manager at LinkedIn.
His job is to help creators grow exponentially on LinkedIn.
And at the end of the call, he said,
well, what can I do for you?
And I said, well, I need you to get me featured
for women's month on the LinkedIn feed
in front of the 400 million audience
and the entire platform I want to feature on me.
I mean, his response was, Heather, don't you think
you should think a little bigger?
And it was one of those mic drop moments, Aaron,
that it made me have a realization.
Sometimes we only know what big looks like to us, right?
We don't understand what that other person might know.
I didn't understand.
He was in charge of casting a TV commercial for LinkedIn that was going to
play in front of billions of people because of their ad budget.
And to him, he thought my idea was so incredibly small when I could have been pitching to be
a star in this commercial and reach billions of people, not 400 million.
So what are your thoughts on?
Sometimes we think we're going so big, but it's only because we're lacking knowledge.
Well, I think that goes to who do you surround yourself with
and how do you spend that time?
So if you look at the five closest people to you,
are they actually pushing your barriers
or are they becoming your villains to your book?
At the end of the day, you spend a lot of time
with probably five give or take one or two people.
And in that, are they actually saying
that you should be bigger than your thing?
And that goes to have a mic drop moment
like you did with the gentleman from LinkedIn.
It's just to think of people that,
it seems like you cross pass with a lot of important people
that could open the door for you greatly.
I think it's you just putting out there,
like you by putting out there as much as it was big for you,
by planning this seat I wanna be on this, he was able to grow that.
And that's the type of people that you want to surround yourself.
You know, they see in you your greatness, probably beyond what you do yourself, because
at the end of the day, part of our own limiting beliefs were built on all the things that we
learned.
And people wanted to shrink us into a world so that we'd be a cog and a wheel, that, you
know, we'd grow up to be middle managers.
And we'd just be happy with two weeks vacation and some of these very limiting thought processes.
And when we're tired, you know, maybe we have like three to five years left in our life,
you know, and that was the goal or whatever historically.
Now you see this generation that, you know, values time, energy, I'll use energy more than time even, where you can this generation that values time, energy, and I'll use energy
more than time even, where you can spend that in the right way.
So the energy that you put out there by saying to you a big goal, created someone else to
say, well, I even have something bigger for you.
But you putting that frame of reference probably expanded his own mindset of what he, I think
it's part of that manifesting.
At the end of the day, there's affirmations,
there's all these ways that visualizations,
things that you know, what you think you will create.
And that's in my book and my first chapter
really around the personal piece of it is to think
as to create.
And I think we have to be careful with our thoughts
because a lot of times we build ourselves up
and then we get right to the point of like almost creating it
and then we pull ourselves back by saying, oh, well, you know, I don't really need to do that or we,
we want to pull her back to a reality that already exists where what you did is you actually got
outside of your own comfort zone asking something and now it's even expanded more. That's part of
thinking big is pushing yourself because once you think bigger, you'll help other people think bigger for you just by putting it out.
So actually at the beginning of your book, I had printed this out.
You give seven universal truths.
And the first one is we are always right to think is to create your perception is your
reality, which you just mentioned.
And for me, it makes perfect sense reading that.
However, like so many people listening right now,
and I think that you'll empathize with this.
When you're in the grind and busy at work,
and you back kids and you're racing home,
and there's a pandemic, and there's a war,
and you're not stepping back from everything to think,
wait a minute, pump the brakes.
These thoughts I'm putting out to the world
and universe right now are actually creating my future.
How do you get people to embrace this woo-woo idea of manifestation?
Because a lot of people see it as something so bizarre and not applicable to business or success.
Well, I think my goal is one of the things our team is to make the woo-woo sexy, not to make it woo-woo. At the end of the day, what you realize is how you talk to yourself is how the world's
going to treat you too.
So if you really embrace this idea of your past, and you have all these things you've
learned, what do you need to unlearn or reprogram?
You're actually perfect the way you are.
And that's where self-help really is not.
And it's why it's not a self-help book.
At the end of the day, self-help says,
there's something wrong with you.
Where there's nothing wrong with you.
It's just the matter is that you maybe picked up
some bad habits.
So if you look at universal truth that you go down
a couple more, we are our habits.
So if we always talk to ourselves in a way,
with all these things like a war going on,, you know, COVID and all these things that we put limitation ourselves, that's all we're going to basically create our future because the only thing we control right now is the thoughts we have and our thoughts end up becoming words, which ultimately become actions if we take them that create results.
if we take them, that create results. So the basic of making this sexy is the fact that if you can
really be careful with your thoughts, and Lao-Zu has a quote
in my book that I put in there that, you know,
is 2,000 plus years old, you know, that goes back before him
that says words became actions, became destiny,
become your character.
That right there will tell you that your future really relies on
what you think now. So any time that you say, I want to put yourself out there, your example is a
perfect one of saying, hey, I want to be on this because that would be huge for me. You're actually
putting out there where people will surprise you with bigger ideas. So your ability to already think
bigger is going to help you expand that mindset because
we never know exactly how it's going to happen. And I'll take the woo-woo out of it. It's just the
fact that persistence and determination of thought. So if I think something and you know, and I
think bull tear has a quote that basically says, no problem can withstand the assault of sustained
thinking. And that's exactly to this idea of how you think about yourself.
So if you just think about yourself that you're going to be exponential,
that you're going to be big, it doesn't really matter.
You're going to spend time on that and energy,
and if you don't let anyone get in your way of that,
and you just continue that thought process,
it's an exponential curve.
It may take some time, but eventually you're going to have an inflection point
where things are going to start going your way. Along the way
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obstacles, then you start seeing some of the success of your labor. And that's
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or anything, your podcast, whatever it is,
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that it'll make a difference.
And the reality is the stories we tell,
whatever that story is,
to fit like right today, being on this podcast,
if one person takes something from this,
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We are on, I'm part of growing my own exponential vision of creating one million exponential
leaders.
And today is the first day of that is Jeff Bezos says is day one, every day is.
So if I start over every day saying that I'm going to create one million exponential leaders,
and I just continue on that path, then I will eventually get there.
Whether it takes me two years or 20,
doesn't matter, I'm enjoying doing it.
So it's just part of a process of enjoying the journey,
which is another universal truth in my mind.
And I very much live those principles
because I see them over and over again.
In fact, in a thousand plus business books
and self-help books that I
bred, I boiled it down to those seven. I was diligent at taking journals and notes and it always came
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But that goes the Elon Musk in 2006,
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It generally happens a little bit longer.
Like Bill Gates has a quote that says,
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So part of my XMBA is to help people think
a little bit longer term
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You bring up one of your universal truth, which is around enjoying the journey. And I have
to tell you for me that that's a hard one. I think some people listening will feel
the pain on this. When you're in the suck, right,
before you've had the inflection point,
whether it was for me when I first started
in the radio business, I had no clients on.
I wasn't an exceptional salesperson.
I was learning the product and services.
I had no strategy to what I was doing,
but I knew I wanted to get to the top of the company.
You know, those first few years were hard and I didn't have a lot of money.
So it wasn't like, oh, on the weekends, I'm enjoying my big life and journey.
I'm in the grind.
This is so much fun.
It sucked, right?
It was like, I don't live where I want to live.
I'm not living my best life.
Everyone else is going and having this great life and I'm working, working, working.
Granted, it paid off in the end.
I made it to the C-suite. I made it to this T-suite.
I made it to where I wanted to go.
However, that journey part was not so fun.
And I've actually had to, as a newbie entrepreneur now,
remind myself of that.
Like, okay, you've seen this movie, you know the suck.
It's not great right now.
You know where you're gonna go.
You know you're gonna get there.
There's zero doubt in my mind.
But how long does that suck have to go on for?
And when I had Gary Vee on my show,
he was all about enjoy the journey.
And I said the same, thanks.
I'm so easy for people to say.
And I'm sure I used to say it when
I was at the top of the media business.
You thought it'd enjoy when you're learning.
It's easy to say when you look back,
but when you're in it, Aaron, it's hard.
I agree.
But I think you make a key point there is. When you look back, but when you're in an errand, it's hard. I agree, but I think you make a key point there is.
When you look back, you realize that there's not a point
in your life, and I've had many, you know, peaks
and valleys again, as we all have.
But once you hit that peak, it's not necessarily the peak
that like, hey, I hit my goal.
It's the fact that what you did to do it
is really enjoying the journey.
If Gary V said this, it's like looking back, you know,
at what you say, the suck.
I'm just saying, well, what did I learn there?
And how did I learn it?
The bottom line is the faster you learn these lessons,
the faster you, and we have this kind of saying around here
and the companies I have is either you win or learn,
there's no failure.
And that's a hard one.
And I used to run the National Association sales profession. So I've been through every sales training there is and you know,
learn sales from, I was really my chosen career because I felt, you know, I really embrace
sales as like the best career there is for an entrepreneur. And ever since I've been an
entrepreneur, just because I can sell. But the bottom line of selling is, you know, going
out every day and improving that process 1%.
And enjoying that journey is that you'll never make those mistakes again.
You learn from them.
You know, failure is your biggest key and indicator to help you succeed.
The more times you fail, the faster you're going to succeed.
To what you just said about yourself, you went through that exponential curve,
and you had that persistence of termination.
But through that, looking back is to understand is to celebrate the little things.
And if you get to a point where you can celebrate the little things and actually in any of my
companies, I have this rule that if you do three great things in a day, you can leave or
do whatever you want.
What's crazy is if people come into work and they have something they want to do, I'm
from Arizona.
So it's spring training, baseball.
So every afternoon, they're spring training games.
Generally, this time of year,
everyone starts doing three great things.
They stand up in the company and they share with
everyone else these three great things,
and they're great things,
but they're doing by 10 a.m. because they want to get out of it.
It's just the fact that it's don't punch a clock,
just do great work.
Once you put that energy in,
and then every day you improve one percent,
and you take what did I win today, or what did I learn?
Then the grind doesn't become such a grind, the suck,
because, and I just, you know,
how do you enjoy the process of learning,
to say, I'll never make that mistake again,
but don't hold on to it as baggage.
And I think that's where so many people
hold their trauma close to their vast and say,
Hey, I want to keep this trauma with me always.
It's my where instead of letting it go, which is another universal principle, is just how
do I get to a place where, you know, I can take that and actually learn from it versus
like really failing.
Because the only time you really fail is when you keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and you don't learn from it.
And that's the goal of my ex MBA, which is a group coaching program that's a goal, you
know, when I coach people and my companies is like, hey, you know, today you're going
to either learn or win.
And the great thing about that is let's celebrate either of them and let's talk about the things
that you learn.
Because in those maybe failures,
and the reality is when you go to any entrepreneurship conference,
everybody loves the failure speeches, right?
It's like, you know,
and I've failed at more companies than I've ever started.
I've sold 12 companies,
but I've failed at more than that.
And when I say more than,
I'm saying a couple dozen companies, I failed at.
So when you really look back, you know,
all those I did learn from those.
And now I feel a little bit less,
and I'm learning or I'm winning.
And I think that's part of just my own mindset
that I come bring into my companies.
And it creates a mindset within my employees,
as well as my coaching program.
If people in the coaching program,
they start to adapt this.
They're like, okay, at the end of the day
is do a little reflection because, you know,
we are so busy running ragged because of the 24-7 new cycle
and social media always, you know,
endless scroll and cancel culture and compare culture
and all this crap going all different which directions
where at the end of the day,
we have to really think about our own mental health, which I think we're entering a period where
mental health is a serious, serious issue, not just for, you know, what we take, I'm saying
for all people on this planet because of the stresses of social media, of cancel culture,
compare culture. I talk about that in the book because it's part of creating that exponential mindset is, you know, to take the positives from things, but to leave
the negatives behind because there is so much negative in the world and, you know, and
candidly, there's more people that are probably glass half empty than our glass half full
and they're going to want to, you know, take, take water, take a drink out of your drink
as much as often. So how do you avoid that by helping move forward
where you want to go?
To your long-term purpose, your massive transformative
purpose is what we talk about in the book,
or a purpose that mine is creating 1 million exponential
leaders.
Well, that's such a big purpose that I
could work on at the rest of my life
and be completely satisfied in the on at the rest of my life and
Be completely satisfied in the grind or the journey of that. So it's also creating a goal so big
That you can just continue to work on it. It's not like saying, I'm gonna create a million dollars in sales
And then six months later I do that and then I'm what the next thing. It's creating a goal so exponential
That you realize that I really got a step out of my comfort zone every day to get it. So it's so interesting you're bringing us up a friend wrote a book about money and how to manage and grow your wealth and one of his strategies that he shared, which I actually deployed on one of my clients that it worked beautifully to your point is when somebody's not motivated or they're detached from what they're doing
and you're trying to get them to go bigger
because you see that potential within them,
you know they can do it if they can engage,
is aligning that bigger, massive goal like yours,
which is very much true to you,
it's mission driven, you're doing good in the world,
finding something that they believe
and that they care about that is mission driven,
maybe totally separate from their business,
but that we can tie that
goal back to that when you hit this revenue number, you can do a give back that gifts
the charity or that it funds this operation, but really making it about doing good in
business.
And it worked unbelievably well to so many people aren't tied to some big mission in their
life.
That would be to be part of the celebrating the win, right?
Like, so I'm going to celebrate in their life. That would be to me part of the celebrating the win, right? Like, so I'm gonna celebrate in this way.
And, can't believe the one thing
that we found, I have a charity called
Arizona Foundation, is when you get more intrinsic value
from giving money away than we do anymore.
So, there comes a point where TVing
or, you know, really just giving back
or helping others, and that that's my mission is that.
But beyond that, I have a foundation
that does all kinds of different work in the community.
I'm very satisfying, but you can just
see the people in that community, how much they
get from the value of just being involved in this greater mission.
I think that's the other part of the book,
Expandion Theory, is really, how do you create a mission that others can
can align to and get involved?
And that's a big part of when you're creating a movement,
which I really consider exponential theory a movement.
If I'm going to create a million exponential leaders,
I've got to create a whole bunch of other people
that are helping do that.
And that's kind of part of my process.
Well, Aaron, let's get into some of the business examples that you provide in exponential
theory because I'm so interested to learn more of them.
And let's jump in with the concept of exponential virality.
I love this example, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, Black Lives Matter Movement.
What is the business or strategy behind going viral?
It's to just what we just launched off on. I mean, part of it is finding a common interest, a universal interest with a group of people and then really creating a common piece of content around.
So, you know, a lot of times people attempt to, I take is like, if I just went out and I asked for
donations and I just went around door to door,
you know, that's an old model that will work.
It's kind of linear, you know,
you're gonna just knock on a lot, a lot of doors and whatever.
The L.S. Ice Bucket Challenge was something
very, very different where L.S.
was this disease that they ultimately created
this ice bucket challenge.
And if you remember, it was very trendy
and very social media and created $100 million of, you know, even though most of the people that did the challenge did not
donate, they created this awareness for it. And that was the viralness of it is everybody
started to do it. You know, my, remember my, at the time she's like, I got her 13, she's
probably like seven or eight at the time. She's like, I want to do the L.S. high spucket challenge.
So I'm in the backyard getting a high-spocket.
She's pouring over her head, you know,
and all of a sudden I'm doing it too.
And you realize that you're post on social media
and now people are having a conversation about the L.S.
that they weren't having before.
So it shows that other groups,
MoVembers, another one, if you, you know,
where you grow much passion on November,
that went very, very viral.
And then every November, this foundation,
I actually worked with them in the past.
Basically now, you know, creates a lot of interest
in what they're doing, you know, just by taking a piece
of content and making it important.
So content's king online.
So creating something that's common that everyone can do.
And it's, it's where TikTok, you know,
you see any trending meme
is doing the exact same thing. So we've gone into hyper content or certain songs, certain things
that you do, certain dances, you see them over and over and over again. That's really around the
virality. One of the chapters I have is the viral loop which basically talks about how companies
create their viral loop is how easy is it for them to grow.
And a viral loop, there's something called the viral coefficient, which now I'm getting a little
technical, but a viral coefficient is if I invite you to my network and you invite three people,
then we have a 3x viral coefficient. So then those three people would invite three people,
and you see the numbers go out. Facebook is the
best example of a network that grew by a viral loop because you could not ignore it, you could not get it off of it. You know, even the people that dislike Facebook aren't able to like really
relinquish it, especially after they bought Instagram and WhatsApp, but you see this is that they
were tied into your high school, tied into your college. So all these pieces of content, again,
content is keen. Facebook realized is making relevant content was going to pull
you back in. So even those people that left eventually came back and we are where
we are today, there's a lot of issues with it that I talk about it in my book
of where we are and some of the issues because they, the auger of them,
start to choose what we see
and start to separate your ability to have your own opinion,
which is probably politically one of our biggest problems
that I has because we have a very decisive world
that sees one point of view and doesn't believe
in another point of view because they see it over and over again
and that just the belief systems are created.
And then here we are today with a very polarized
and extremely opinionated public on whatever issue there is out there.
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You know, I'm thinking about my own journey with micro viral content.
I've never had anything like ALS challenge, obviously, hashtag goals.
But the first time it happened to a piece of content of mine where I received over a million
views on something that was a couple of years ago.
I remember thinking, oh, wow, this is possible for me.
I had never set that as a target.
I had never thought, like, okay, let's go for viral posts.
I didn't even know, you know, I just, I never thought that big around my content.
But once I saw it happen, I remember watching tick, tick, tick, tick, and the numbers just
kept going so fast.
Once I saw that, then I kept envisioning every post
that since I've worked on that one, put every post,
I look at it, I'm like, does this have the potential?
No, I bet this one doesn't.
This one could, like we gotta go all in on this one.
You start thinking bigger once you have
these micro big moments, right?
Yeah, I know it's success, breed success.
So it's also a belief system that you're expanding.
So the fact that it opened your mind up to this, if you can create it as an expectation,
then you start actually creating the habits to create that. So it's again learning every day about
how do you get back there. But it's not to say that it can happen every time. And candidly,
what social media has done over the last three
to five years is really locked that down.
You used to be able to go viral on your own.
Now, social media is going to say, we want to, well,
money if you're going to go viral.
So we're going to limit this.
So it becomes much, much harder to go viral.
That's why TikTok, which doesn't have an advanced algorithm
yet, it's starting to get it.
As Instagram didn't have it three years ago,
as Facebook didn't have it seven years ago,
LinkedIn, even, LinkedIn has an algorithm now
that your content barely gets seen by anybody
where you could have 17,000 people,
but I can put a post out it's seen by 100 people
because of the algorithm.
So unfortunately, we're battling a system
that is really
controlling what we see.
I think that's part of the overall inherent issues
with some of these control mechanisms
that have been put in place.
Now they make good business sets.
Don't give me wrong.
I understand why they did them.
It's just candidly our own ability to control our future.
Now we have to buy into that future.
Part of it is creating the habits to
do that. So there's so much more that goes into it today than there used to be. My own digital
strategy firm I sold in 2015 and I feel like I'm a newcomer. When I talk about social media,
I'm very much the newbie where in 2015 I probably knew more than just about anyone there was at
that point, but that just showed you how different it is today.
Oh, that's so true.
It's changing so quickly.
Okay, why linear companies will eventually die in how to embrace the new circular economy
by implementing the Rodeon rule?
What does that mean?
Linear companies, generally companies that are fairly large that grow, you know, they're going as three to 10% growth, which is a linear line, you know. And if companies
always grow at that, what the problem with that is is that you have all these other
companies in different industries or inside their industry that are growing
exponentially. What it means is they're doubling and tripling and they're
hitting this curve that are going to start buying market share because
there's not infinite market share. So, you know, it goes to companies like Mercedes-Benz, which has a very quality car, but then
you think about Uber and you think about Tesla and you think about all these other externals
that you wouldn't think maybe takes market share from them, but every time they grow
a little bit, they're actually taking market share.
In very urban markets, younger demographics, teenagers aren't getting cars like they usually. I'm getting drivers license, which I find crazy because those are the most exciting,
probably more in my life when I got my drivers license. But they're not thinking that they want to
grow up and have a Mercedes as a car. That's not even part of their bought process.
So as a company like Mercedes, they got to reset
and really think about how they can.
So they're a linear company that actually is growing,
fairly considerably, a good line.
But there's all these exponential companies.
And over the last year, they've really felt those pressures
because those exponential companies.
Circular economy to the point of the rodeo role is,
you've probably heard of a golden role, right?
Heather, the treat others, as you wanna be treated,
then there's the platinum role,
which is treat others as, they wanna be treated,
which I think today is demanded with me too,
and all these different movements,
cancel culture in general.
But then there's the rodeo role, which is, you have to think all these different movements, cancel culture in general. But then there's the Rodeum rule,
which is you have to think about the entire ecosystem,
which I think is for leaders today
a very important part of being exponential.
You're gonna think big,
you cannot think about people that look like you,
or you're religion, or everything.
You gotta think about all people.
And I think that's a very important part
to growth of society in a culture,
in a place where we have to start thinking about
the greater good of all people
because it actually hurts each one of us
when we're not thinking about all people.
And I think that's where for far too long
we've had a few decision makers think about themselves
and their friends and their families and not think
about the rest of the world.
So we have to actually start to think about those bickers.
And if you look at some of the large tech companies, they've actually started because they represent
all people, it actually has made them more conscious in their policies and their decisions.
And so it really is around conscious capitalism or conscious business. Capitalism
should not be in question. It's just how do we make it conscious so we start to think about it.
Even BlackRock, the $7 trillion asset manager, has basically put out some calls to consciousness
around how do we diversify board of directors? How do we actually invest in companies that are not
directors. How do we actually invest in companies that are not for the deterioration of the plan you know, ground climate change. So some of these things are whether or not the reality is in the long
run of where we see the future, how do we think about things differently because what we've done
hasn't necessarily worked perfectly now, how could we think about something bigger and better so
that we can work for all. I think that's an important part of leaders in very big companies and some of my clients that are
boards and different things is how do we actually take a customer base and if we're going to go exponential
we have to start thinking about customers that we've never had before because we have to grow in a different way.
And that's an important conversation I have at the board level and the C-suite
as well as with startups because the other day, if you can find a meme or a discussion to really
drive your business, we see those companies being more successful every day. Again, content is
king and that's where some of these companies that actually stand for something versus a company that
stands for nothing, we see the difference in them in the marketplace. You see, one, we're in a period of persecution
where you're not doing the right thing when no one's looking, you're going to be found out
sooner or later. And I think that's an important role of social media is how do we actually level
the playing field and how do we actually give a voice to those that have never had one,
and not only a voice, but give them a seat at the table,
but also start to listen, because I think for so long,
where we've given a lot of talks to diversity, equity, and inclusion,
PEI, but the reality of it is, until we actually start to listen and drive
business in that direction, that's where companies really can reap the rewards,
because if we look at it,
we live in a more diverse culture than we ever have before. We need as companies, and what I do
with very large companies, help them really think through, how do I actually embrace that diversity,
because that's part of my future. How do I actually help those people understand that
apart of that? Well, it's by making decisions for all people, not just for the people that are in the board
room or the family out on the farm or whatever it is.
As a female board member, I'm all for more females at the table because typically as you know,
it is elderly white males and it's about time for some fresh voices there for sure.
All right, parting gifts here.
What can you share with everybody about thinking big?
What do you want to tell them about the power of thinking big
that we didn't touch on already?
You know, we touched on a lot.
I think the key points that I would take from,
is once you get digital,
once something comes digital, it becomes exponential.
You know, it's just a matter of time.
So obviously embracing the digital future, you know,
companies that haven't, we've seen them perish.
That's a big part of it.
And then just having a longer term vision of who you want
to be personally, professionally, or organization.
However, you're looking at the world.
And then as you grow in the world, it's obviously
adopting new beliefs.
You cannot hold on to beliefs from the past
that have been limiting if you're actually
going to move into an exponential future.
So the fact is for you, Heather, is just to continue to ask for those big things because
I obviously you've already created a lot of big things for yourself and been in front of
all these different audiences and had all these great guests and been on all these different
podcasts.
It's like just continuing to ask and creating that and expanding your own mindset is only going to
bring unbelievable things for your future as well as all of your
audience. So it's just it's part of creating that confidence,
you know, overcoming your villains, you know, not to wrap it into what
you're doing, but it's going through that process to enjoy the
journey because every day you win or learn and just having a
long-term vision on that because at the end of the day, success doesn't happen overnight.
Now if you believed it would and you had no resistance to that, it probably would.
It's just you have to work through your own self-talk and demons, but reprogram them and
unlearn some bad habits, limitations, regrets, and really unlearn all these things that were
brought to limit us and put us in a box.
Is how do we expand that box?
I think the most important thing to thinking big is just to know you have every piece of equipment.
Everyone on this planet has every piece of equipment that everyone else does.
It's just a matter of if they actually can create the mindset of these narratives.
A lot of that is who they're surrounded with.
So there are different societal elements
where people are born in a different neighborhood
or different races that may cause additional boundaries.
But regardless, we've always seen
and we always love those story of the hero's journey
of the hero actually coming through and winning.
And that's why we love these stories of people
that were down and out and obviously
found their way to this conundrum and overcame it and then found success. I mean, that's part of
my XMBA group coaching program is to write your own hero's journey because then the day,
if you're a hero to yourself, you can be a hero to the world. And in any way, you want to choose
to change the world, you just have to see it. And that's part of writing your own story and not letting others write it for you.
So many, we like to turn the pen over to someone else,
instead of just writing our own chapters and say,
this is what the next chapter is going to be.
And today's the day.
Today's the only day you can do that.
So starting right now.
I love that.
And to paraphrase from Kanye West documentary that's out on Netflix right now,
which for anyone that wants to go bigger, you got to watch this when Jay Z says to him,
a close mouth doesn't get fed. You would have gotten nothing if you had an ass and that guy
asked his way onto Jay Z's hit single. You have to open up your mouth and ask then start asking
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you got to pick up exponential theory,
the power of thinking big.
Aaron, where can everyone get your book?
Well, it's been Amazon Barnes and Noble.
You can always go to exponentialtheria.com
or AaronBair.com and learn more.
Well, thank you so much for all the work
that you're doing making the world a better,
bigger, more fabulous place.
We're so glad that we got to be with you today, Aaron.
Thank you.
Thanks, Heather, for your time and appreciate everything you're doing for the world as well.
All right, everyone.
Make it today.
Today's the day.
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