Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - The Most Important Question You Need To Ask Yourself To Level Up! With Ryan Leak, Executive Coach, Best-Selling Author & Motivational Speaker Episode 277

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

In This Episode You Will Learn About:  Putting yourself out there   Giving your best (even when it’s really difficult)   What you can learn from no  Chasing failure to reach your dreams �� Resources: Website: www.ryanleak.com Read Leveling Up Listen to Followership with Ryan Leak Email: [e-mail]  Facebook & LinkedIn: @Ryan Leak Instagram & TikTok & Twitter: @ryanleak Youtube: @RyanLeak Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com  If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Show Notes:  STOP talking yourself out of your dreams! If you never give things a try, you’ll NEVER know what incredible obstacles you might overcome. Keep moving towards things that scare you, because it will keep you motivated! Ryan Leak, best-selling author, and motivational speaker is here to encourage us to give our best self to EVERY opportunity. Go above and beyond for the tasks right in front of you, and before you know it you’ll be crushing your biggest dreams!  About The Guest: My guest today speaks on some of the BIGGEST stages all over the world. Ryan Leak is an executive coach, best-selling author, and motivational speaker that inspires over 50,000 people every month, and trains over 20,000 leaders every year! He’s widely known for two documentaries: The Surprise Wedding and Chasing Failure. Ryan is also the CEO of the Ryan Leak Group, LLC, a leadership development firm in Dallas where they work with leaders and teams all over the world. If You Liked This Episode You Might Also Like These Episodes: Empowerment Is At Your Fingertips! With Craig Siegel, Keynote Speaker & Performance & Mindset Coach  START Vibrating on a Higher Frequency With Heather!  How To Make Life Happen FOR YOU With Dean Graziosi Co-Founder Of Mastermind  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi and welcome back. I'm so excited for you to meet my guest today. Ryan Leake is an executive coach, best-selling author and motivational speaker that gets to inspire over 50,000 people every month and train over 20,000 leaders every year. He's widely known for two documentaries, The Surprise Wedding and Chasing Failure. Ryan is also the CEO of the Ryan Leak Group LLC that is a leadership development firm in Dallas, Texas. They have the privilege of working leaders and teams

all over the world from NBA team support 500 companies. Ryan, thank you so much for being here today. Yes, it is my privilege to be here with you. Okay, so I've got a lot of DMs. You're an incredible speaker and guys, just a little behind the scenes, a very good friend of both of ours, Jordan Montgomery, who you know was on the show earlier. If you haven't heard that episode, go back and check it out.

Introduce us on text. And in typical fashion, I'm being sarcastic with people. I didn't even know Ryan. I didn't know who he was yet. And I'm saying, gosh, Ryan, you're not even active on this thread. You better be on the PST time zone, because this is pretty lame of you. Pete hits live video on his camera

and is literally about to take the stage in Atlanta for Chick-fil-A in front of thousands of people and I was eating my words. So all I wanna say is this man takes the biggest stages in the world and speaks more than anyone. So Ryan, so many people DM me all of the time asking, how do you get into speaking? How does a speaking career even materialize? And I know we were talking about it a little bit off air, but can you give us that backstory on how you ended up where you are

today? Yeah, for sure. You know, I grew up in the church and my dad was a pastor. I just thought my dad did a great job of just adding value to people's lives. And he got to, he was so involved in the community. And I just was so mesmerized that people would come together every single Sunday and hear him talk. And I thought, man, what an awesome way to impact somebody's life.

And you don't use stages to beat people up. I think you use stages to encourage people and build people up. And so I just kind of enjoyed it. And I just kind of had a knack for it. And I was pretty comfortable in front of people. And I just tried to work on my craft and just serve people and try to add values best I could. I started speaking out of a bunch of churches around the country, one day in executive from a, what was the name of that company? They were credit union, okay?

They said, hey, will you come and just do like our staff development day? And I was like, sure. And so I did. And I just, I'm a, I'm a proponent of give your best to the opportunity that is in front of you. Not the opportunity you want in the future. No, the opportunity that's in front of you. Not the opportunity you want in the future. No, the opportunity that's in front of you,

you're given an opportunity to speak to 10 people, go crush it with those 10 people. You will never crush it with 10,000 unless you crush it with what's in front of you. And so I just tried doing that every single week with every opportunity I was given. I just tried to give my very best to it. I remember getting invited to speak at a conference

in Atlanta in the event planner, say, hey, you got seven minutes. And I felt disrespected by that. I felt like seven minutes. I'm fine all the way here just for seven minutes. Like really? But then it was just like, no, dude, give your best to seven minutes.

Crush the seven. Like this dude I've never heard of you before and you have to kind of own that. Like some people, it's like your household name in their household, but then their neighbor has no idea who you are. And so you gotta have, I think, a self-awareness in that. And so I went and I just tried to grand slam

that seven minutes. And when I did, he called another friend who had me speak to 45,000 people six months later. He said, Hey, I just had this guy speak. He did something in seven minutes. I've never seen before in my life. And so I always encourage people, give your best to the opportunity that's in front of you. You never know who's watching. You never know who's in the crowd. You never know who's kid is in the crowd. You never know who's watching. You never know who's in the crowd. You never know whose kid is in the crowd. You never know whose mom is in the crowd.

I just consistently try to give my best in whatever room I'm in. It could be a board room, it could be an arena, it could be a church. It doesn't matter. I just try to give my best and it's helped me build a pretty great career. There's a great Abraham Lincoln quote that I'm sure I'm

going to watch, but it's something like this. Ask me to speak right now for one hour. I'll take this stage. Ask me to speak for 30 minutes. I need two days. Ask me to speak for anything under 10. I need months. It is so much more challenging to be incredibly concise and

tight versus to get up and storytell. So that's really impressive that you were able to pull that off on the spot. I get asked to do all sorts of stuff. You know, I just again, oh, it's becoming an old adage. Stay ready so you don't got to get ready. And I work with a lot of athletes right before games. And so you have a very short window of time to impact them and give them a thought

that doesn't throw them off, but inspires them to play, but also gives them something to chew on about their life. And it's difficult, but I think it's a muscle that I've just tried to work on over the years, and I think the more you do it, the better you get at it. What are some of the things that you say to professional athletes before they're about

to take the court at an NBA game? How do you encourage them or what words do you share? One of the things that I think is vitally important for a professional athlete, it could be a coach or a player, is get a half-un. Got a half-un. Sometimes the check is so large, the media, pressure, all of these talks around the sport, what it can do is actually suck the life out of what used to be,

how you got started, was you went to a park where kids go and you have fun. Now you're a businessman. Now you're a business woman. Now it's your job. It's a career. And sometimes the person that's paid the most has lost their passion for the sport. So what I try to do is bring them perspective to say, Hey, so you know, did you know you get paid to play a game tonight? It's amazing. Like we can't lose sight of that. And there's just times where I'm getting ready to speak where I'll

say that to myself like, did you get paid to talk to me? That's insane. It's from like, like, do you know, like, there are people who work all year long to get paid what I could get paid to speak one time. It is absolutely absurd. But I just, I always have to just step back and just go, man, we gotta enjoy what we do. And because we can't take it for granted, we work so hard to get where we are. But you can go to so many conventions, so many conferences and

read so many books and listen to all these different podcasts on how to get success. There's not many resources that teach you how to enjoy it once you get it. And so I just, I love to tell an athlete right before a game, hey, enjoy the fact that you get paid to play a game that kids play in parks. Don't forget to have fun in the midst of all that is going on. And ESPN is not real life. Okay. Like your life is here right now.

Enjoy it. And I just try and give them a little bit of perspective in that because I, I just remember even being asked with myself, or so many games I had, it was like the, the pressure of the world was on my shoulders. And I look back and I go, I didn't enjoy it enough. I love that you just share that you weren't actually because that takes me into the best story that is really the foundation of chasing failure, which I would love your first book chasing failure, how falling short sets you up for success. If you could get into that

amazing, it's literally mind blowing. I still can't even believe you did it. It's so incredible. Yeah. So I played college basketball at D3-ish school. The ish is that it wasn't fully D3. Our D3 status was pending the years that I played there. And what we were in the end, CCAA, which stands for National Christian Collegiate Athletic Dissociation. So I like to tell people amongst Christians, I'm really good at basketball.

Church League MVP is how I like to see myself. But I had never pursued the pros. Me and my wife, we went on the Cleveland Tifa show because of a surprise wedding, which is a whole nother thing. But my wife told her friends, she thought it would be cool to get engaged and married on the same day, had no idea what that meant.

So I guessed, playing the wedding behind her back over the course of two years, that's a viral wedding story documentary on YouTube. Because of that, we got to go on the Queen of Tifa show, on the Queen of Tifa show, my wife in the Queen surprised me by getting me connected with the late great Kobe Bryant. And Kobe comes on a video, says,

hey Ryan, heard about this fabulous wedding that you had for your bride and just wanted to return the favor. It invite you out to Staples Center to come hang out with me and the Lakers. I passed out on Queen of Teethy's couch and I had three months to prepare to meet Kobe. And I was thinking like, man, I've never actually like tried to really go for this professional basketball

day. But I've always like, I would go to games and I'd be like, man, you should work left, man, you should have worked right. Like I always had this idea like I could do their job better than they could. But I'd never actually done anything about it. And so in getting ready to meet Kobe, I said, I'm gonna get back in all American D3's shape. And I'm gonna go for it, start playing a friend of mine who had just got cut from the Chicago Bulls. And he beat me every single time pretty easily. I'm six three, two hundred and five pounds.

He's six five, about two 45. So there was a pretty big gap between us. And I was like, man, just forget this dude. Like you're not gonna make it in the lead, just go meet Kobe, take a picture like a normal person and just go home. And I thought, man, that was pretty fast. Like you had a one percenter idea,

like being an MBA and then you gave up on it. And like 24 hours. That's like giving yourself a feeling great on a test you refuse to take. Like how do you know you're gonna fail unless you actually tried way too often we pre-calculate failing and just abort mission altogether. We literally talk ourselves out of our own dreams

every single day. And so this was a day where I say, I'm gonna actually talk myself into it. And so I started asking people, you know, what would you do if you knew you couldn't fail? And so when I answer that question, it was like, well, hey, I'd be in the NBA. So I meet Colby and I say, hey, we're going to a documentary called Chasing Failure. I'm actually going to ask a lot of people, what would you do if you knew you couldn't fail? And I'm going to go for something that I think I'll probably fail, but there's only one way to find out.

And that's for me to try. So I say, I'm gonna be an NBA. And he's like, yeah, do it. And I was like, no, that's the wrong answer. You were supposed to tell me how hard it is. You were supposed to tell me about pouring workouts. You were supposed to tell me about the nutritionist. You were supposed to tell me about the politics of it. Like, but no, he just stuck with the Nike slogan. Just do it. And so, I did not know how to get into the NBA for people that don't understand how the NBA works. It's the National Basketball Association. It's not a church league. There's a protocol.

You need to go to Duke, North Carolina, play overseas, you need to have an agent, you need to go to the combine. There's a protocol. They're not really looking for motivational speakers to join their team, the Boosted Morale of the Squad. Like, that's not a thing But so I did the thing we all do and we don't know what to do I googled it and I found the public relations emails for every MB18 and I just started emailing them one by one say hey

You got a bunch of fans across the city that are afraid to fail. I don't think they should be I think they should embrace failure I think you should embrace this idea now to let a complete stranger work out for your basketball team I'll probably fail, but what if I don't? My name is Ryan Leeck, I'm 6'3", 205 pounds, and looking for failure. And I had sand, it felt illegal. I was like, Ryan, what are you doing? This is crazy. And then the Celtics wrote me back and I'm like, hey, this is a great story.

It's just not for us. I was like, that sucks. Man, Ryan, this idea is so bad, they won't even let you fail at it. Like, this is terrible. Like, what do you think it? But then I thought, did the Celtics just email you back? Like, this is amazing. Like, I'm going to make a documentary about being told no,

by all 30 in B.A.T. This is going to be a maze. Like, what can we murder from no? And so I always encourage people. You want to take notes on every single rejection because there's a lesson in there. So they weren't actually even giving me a rejection. They were actually giving me NBA language that I didn't have before.

So I started changing my pitch, every single email, fifth email goes out to the Phoenix songs. They're like, Hey, we love this idea. Come on Monday. I was like, Monday, what? Are you serious? They said, Yeah, bring your camera, crowd was like, camera crew. Got no camera.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, we'll be there first of the day Monday, boarded. So I call my homie Chuck. I say, Hey, man, let me how it's for a second. We ain't talking a little bit. We need to go to Phoenix. He's like, what we going to Phoenix for? I said, don't ask questions. Just trust me. It's going to be awesome. So I got a two day workout with the Phoenix Suns and I made a whole documentary about it and it's called Jason failure spoiler alert. I failed. And so on now I get to teach people all about all of the lessons that I learned from failing in Phoenix and at one point. The drills are basically like hey you're gonna take 20 shots. Our guards make 18 out of 20. That's the NBA standard. I was making like 15 or 16 out of 20.

So again, I'm good, but they're great. I fit in, but that's the problem. NBA players don't fit in. They stand out. They're outstanding. They are absolutely remarkable. So at one point I'm looking down at the court. I got my head down, I'm feeling shame,

I'm feeling embarrassed, like man, like you're not good enough and I look down and I see this logo and it's the Phoenix Suns logo and I asked myself, right, how did you get here? Because there's a lot of places you could be. And I realized chasing failure took me further than chasing success ever did. Because it got me way out of my comfort zone and landed me in an NBA practice court. I did a lot of things in my life open to that point, none of which landed me on an NBA practice court. And so now in hindsight, it's very interesting to think, number one, NBA teams don't give

workouts to motivational speakers from convincing email. That's not how it works. But what I learned in Phoenix is sometimes they make an exception. And you'll never know if you're in exception, in Phoenix is sometimes they make an exception. And you'll never know if you're an exception, unless you're willing to send an email. The second thing that I've learned on hindsight from that whole experience, now that I get to work with about five different MBA teams is there's more than one way to be in the MBA. And I never, I would have never seen that or known that had I not been willing to go out there and say, hey, let

me give it a shot. So yeah, so that's the chasing failure story. That's what I try to help people get past some of their own barriers and try to help people get out of their own way. And so for you, you no longer are stopped by fear. Is that correct? Oh, I mean, I deal with it all the time. I just have to just,

as weird as it sounds, Glenn and Doyle says it this way, if you can't beat the fear, just do it scared. So for me, I'm just consistently doing a lot scared. I just signed myself up for stuff that I can't do. And I just like, just go for it. And if it blobs and blobs, but I just kind of have that model of just like just go for it if it pops and pops but I just kind of have that model just like hey, let's just Let's just see

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of Chasing Failure. So the first version, I self-published, it was like 60 pages. It was essentially the same story. Somebody watched the documentary, it was like, how I really like documentaries, can you write it in a book? And I was like, oh, sure. So I self-published it, hit print on like a thousand and just like handed it out to my friends and people

in my church. And somebody walked up to me and they go, hey, I hate to break it to you, but there's three typos in it. I'm like, oh crap. So I fixed those three typos and reprint it. And then I'm speaking at one of the largest churches in America, and a woman walks up to me, she says, hey, there's about four typos in your book.

Can I help you? I'm like, Jesus, what is wrong with you, Ryan? You can't get, and you have no idea how many people proofread it, including me. So then we do a third version, and we're like, hey, why don't we update it and like give it a new look and feel. It's been like two years now with all these typos. And then somebody was like, hey, can you add like some verses to it? Like I like it to be a little bit more spiritual. So I made a little bit thicker one and

never even put that one on Amazon. So there's like four versions out there. My mom has every single version of Jason failure. And so I talk about typos in chasing failure because people have this idea, I'm not going to move forward until it's perfect. And I'm just like, well, guess what? Then you will never move forward. It's never gonna happen. So I just decided I'm gonna move forward with imperfection.

So I'm reading the audio book, doing my own audio book for a chasing failure, and I find two typos. And I was living. I was living in this studio, but then I just thought, yeah, but in the book, I write, hey, you might find two typos. Ironically, people haven't actually found them yet. I know where they are, but I actually haven't. It's been out for 18 months, and no one has actually caught it yet. And that's just me just maybe being super anal about it, whatever. But I am consistently every single day moving towards something that intimidates me. But it's good for me. Because that means I'm always learning and I was moving forward.

Well, I'll tell you that book as you know became a USA Today best seller. And I mean to have that level of success is incredible. It's funny. My first book, Compton's Creator, I Self Publish, much like you. I just said, OK, I'm just going to write this book, having no idea what I was doing. There's three mistakes in the book. I never thought to redo it, by the way. So kudos to you. I just left them and thought, you know what?

Let my imperfections rock. I'd always rather be the person that wrote the imperfect book than the person on her deathbed that said, I never wrote that book that I had inside me and never got it perfect. Right? So to me, I love that you had the mistakes. And I also love that you continue to evolve it. And that once it got to this level, that's when it completely took off, but that would have never happened. Had you never sat down and written that small first version? happened had you never sat down and written that small first version. Oh for sure. And you know, it's interesting when we were first working on this latest version

of Jason failure, talking with the publisher, talking with the team and you know one day I just say, hey, it would be great if I hit New York time. Like let's just go for it. And then here's what's interesting. Everybody working harder I'm like where was this at before like where? Where you not now I get you a game now that I now that I've set set our goals a little bit higher and I started working harder So that that was for everybody. Well we sold within the first two weeks think we sold like 13 or 14,000

Which is incredible which is enough to hit New York Times. In fact, like you can, first off, this is all public information. You can see how many units, every book on New York Times, like you can see it. So I should have been number three week one and number six week two. But you can literally see the numbers. So when a book comes out, it comes out, and then you have to wait a whole week before all of the numbers come in. And so that whole week was just so nerve-wracking. Because you're like, yo, we're going for New York Times, we have enough to hit New York Times, but

it's like, are you a big enough name? Are you, you know, there's a whole bunch of unknown boxes that you you have to check. And so when I get the email, it says, hey, you did not hit New York Times, but you hit USA today. And oh, we're talking with the Wall Street Journal. We don't know why you weren't on their list because you obviously sold enough. And I mean, we put like a six figure marketing plan together that worked.

Like we did everything in our power to get the dub and we lost. And it's just like, oh, poor you. You landed on USA. I said, I was gonna say, and Ryan, how many people have come to you after reading your book to tell you their story of how they broke some fear and failure

because of chasing failure? Oh, thousands, thousands of people. I mean, people, I got people out there trying all types of stuff even stuff that even I'm like, hey man, I think you might have took the book a little too little. I don't know. I don't know about that But yeah, you did that one that one. Oh, I didn't say get a second mortgage. Okay, I said explore it. Okay, I said send them an email I like you took it a little too far, but people are so resilient. People are so brave.

I'm impressed with the emails that I get from people every single day. There are people that have just pitched movies, business proposals, book proposals that have started podcasts and YouTube channels. All because they just did it scared. channels, all because they just did it scary. And I just, I'm so impressed with what they've done way more than what I did to play a part in that. But like, there's a lot of brave people out there. And there's, there's nothing more rewarding than that. I'll never forget interviewing Sarah Blakely from Spinks. And she explained her father every day when they would sit down for dinner, would say,

share your failures, tell me your failures for the day and her family celebrated failure so much so. It was ingrained in her that this idea of trying something that she knew nothing about, it was very normal for her. Of course, I'm gonna do this. Unlike 99% of us who had been, you know, basically the messaging of, you've got to be able to win. Don't do this. Unlike 99% of us who had been basically the messaging of, you've got to be able

to win. Don't do it. You'll look bad. You're going to be judged. You're going to feel ashamed and cut to, you know, this woman becomes a billionaire by stepping into failure on the regular, which is entirely your message. It's incredible for me to see how many of us, the majority, are held back by failure. And I think a lot of people aren't just held back by failure. The fear of it, the predicting, all right, according to my assessment, I will fail. Therefore, I won't even try. That's where I try to help people go, hey, you can't sell a book that you don't write. You can't get people to listen to a podcast,

you won't record. Even this morning, it was like, hey, are you gonna do a book tour? I'm like, well, what if I go to a Barnes and Noble in New York and nobody shows up? For this book sign, I'm like, man, I'm just sitting in Barnes' high, so. It's just like, no, like, you gotta,

you gotta put yourself out there. I mean, you got to have a plan too, but yeah, I think the difference between people who are successful and people who don't get all that they want from their life is that successful people were willing to go sit in the bookstore and be by themselves. They were willing to try the thing in fail, whereas most people would rather just acquiesce to the status quo and settle for mediocrity. I'll tell you, I settled for my version of mediocrity being in corporate America for you know, 14 years and saying, I have golden handcuffs, I've got to stay, you know, because

this was my excuse, right? Because I was afraid of what else could be out there beyond what I saw in front of me and what I knew to be what I thought a truth. And it was funny, I was on a call yesterday with this very successful gentleman and in his business quote unquote corporate world, right? Which again, golden handcuffs, and I get the whole thing. I understand at the end of the call,

I said one more thing I wanted to bring up to you. I've been dreaming about launching a podcast for five years. I've actually recorded episodes. I have a whole list of the people that I'm going to interview when I actually launch it. I have, and he starts, he tells me this whole business plan,

it was incredible. And his face would lit up the whole, nothing like the last 20 minutes when we had been on the call. He was a different person. And at the end of the call, I said, I really don't care about anything. You've sent this entire call other than the podcast. I'm holding you accountable to launch this thing. I will get you the right people. I will plug and play. You have got to launch this. You got to pull a trigger because otherwise you're going to let that dream die. I mean, isn't that the real reason? Oh, absolutely. I think people, I think people overcomplicate it. I really do. I think people really

overcomplicate their dreams. And there is this mentality of championship or bust. It's got to be the number one podcast in the world or it's failure. It's an academy award or bust. It's Grammys or bust. So I think people feel like they have to be the best in whatever industry they're in. I'm like, no, dude, just give your best. Like there's millions of podcasts out there. Just be good at the one you got and do your best with with what you've been given. But I think that there is this intimidation

factor of like, you know, I was talking to a friend two days ago. He said, man, I just feel like the things that I have to say have already been said. I'm like, yeah, but the other person that said it doesn't have the people following them that are following you. So say it in your way and help the people that are listening to you. Like there can be this, well, so and so is already doing it. And I already follow this person who's already, and it's just like, yeah, but the world doesn't follow them. Just because they have a million phones, it was like, Oh, man, that's the whole world. No, that's actually a very small portion of the world. Like there's what I've learned in business is the pie is incredibly large. It is the biggest pie that we just feel like,

man, if they already own the pie, so there's not enough. It's like, no, you can eat and I can eat, which is why I'm like, I love plugging you with different clients in my. I love plugging our friend, Jordan Montgomery. I love plugging different friends in mine that I think are good speakers.

And they're just like, well, you're plugging somebody else. I'm like, guys, you know how many events there are in the world every single day? You know, well, one, I'm one person. I can maybe do 120, maybe. And that's pushing it. It's like, what do we afraid of? Like, I think we feel like, well, I can't say this,

and I don't want, like, I heard this other person, it's just like, no, like, leverage your perspective, leverage what you've got to say, bring it to the table, and there's enough pie to take wide thing for all of us to eat. I love that. And I heard this analogy the other day that resonated with me, you know, when we open up the door for abundance and we, you know, offer abundance to others like like you do.

So generously and connections and whatnot. That is the normal way of being in a lousy abundance to flow back to you. Much like the same way you would with your health. You wouldn't say, oh, I'm working out a lot, taking care of myself. I should probably stop for a while. Maybe somebody else needs this health out in the world. And hopefully it will find them. I'll be sick for a year or two, right?

No. I'm going to show up as the best person in the everyday. I'm going to give it my all. Hopefully I inspire other people to do the same. There is no, you know, fine night group of people that can't be healthy or can't be, or can't be more can't be. We have just bought into this scarcity mindset from media,

from the messaging that we're receiving out there that really has so many people stuck. And that's where your books and work are resonates so incredibly. Well, one of the things I wanted to ask you because I've never done this. I've never preached in a church. I've never done some of the you have. I have not. No, no, I have never done this. I've never preached in a church. I've never done some of the spiritual movement. I have not. No, no, I have not. I have never. I never have.

We're gonna have to change that. I got you. Oh my gosh. I got you. I would be so honored. Oh my gosh. But so I've never done that. It's interesting to me.

I've always spoken at events, corporations, and business because that's my past, right? That's what I feel comfortable doing, right? So it's interesting to me in my mind, I tried to reason, how can you communicate the same message? Like you said, that first time someone said to you in business, they saw you in a church, and then they said, hey, can you take out the verses and still be as effective?

And you're like, yeah, I'll figure that out. To me, it's so interesting to think, how can you communicate effectively and profoundly in a church as well as in a business as well as with youth, right? Versus not just adults, you're crossing so many sections of people and locations and diversity. How are you able to do that effectively? Great question. The way I see communication is, Great question. The way I see communication is it is a speakers job. It is a communicator's job to solve the audience's problems. So if you can understand a business's problems, if you can understand a church-goers problem,

if you can understand a student's problem, I think you can be an effective communicator. And so what I started realizing, the more I started doing business coaching versus pastoral counseling is people in the church, as well as people that work at a Fortune 500 company often have the same problem. They often have the same hurdles. People in church and people in business have mental health issues. People in church, people in business, they get divorced all the time. I mean, the worst rate in the church is the same as the divorce rate. In fact, there are people that are in business that go to church.

And so I just started seeing the world sort of blending a little bit of just going, hey, wherever you are, there are people that are hurting. Help them. Encourage them. Make this milder day. Help them have a good day. Give them something to think about.

Help them overcome their biggest hurdle. What I also learned from the church that I bring to business is, business is so numbers driven or than people driven. So when I walk in a room and I say, hey, how are you? I was like, good, I'm like, no, but for real, like, how are you like? How are you doing? People are like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. Is there somebody here that cares? I'm like, yeah. And like that, giving people that space in a business setting to tell somebody else like how they're actually doing,

is like revolutionary for some people. There's just like, no one has actually asked me how I'm actually doing it. And I'm drowning, but the quit. I'm about to, hey, don't quit, man, hold on, wait a second. And this is the first time they've been able to have to talk about it, because it's go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, deliver results, deliver results, deliver results.

And family's falling apart, marriage falling apart. Many things in their life that are just plaguing them. And so I just started talking about those things in the workplace. And I started asking a question. I started saying things like, Hey, here's, here's, we all get 6,000 thoughts per day on average, 6,000 thoughts. Some people get 60,000. Those are overthinkers. They, whoever they is, I don't know if it's scientists, whoever I just read about it, says 80% of our thoughts are negative. 80% is 4800 to 48000 negative thoughts every single day.

95% are repetitive, which means you and I have the same negative Spotify playlist going on in our brain every single day. So, the question that I would ask in a church is going, how are you supposed to grow in your relationship with God with that much thinking thinking? The question I would ask in businesses, how are you supposed to grow in your relationship with God with that much thinking thinking? The question I would ask in businesses, how are you supposed to grow a business with that much thinking thinking? How are you supposed to be a good leader with that much negative thinking? How are you supposed to be a good parent?

How are you supposed to be married? How are you supposed to have a thriving romantic relationship? How are you supposed to be a good parent? How are you supposed to lead a team? How are you supposed to come up with creative ideas with that much stinking thinking? So I think that's how I sort of bridge The gap between the two of just saying hey, whether I'm at a church in elementary school a non-profit

entrepreneurs athletes Hey, everyone wants to thrive in their lives in some way shape or form athletes, hey, everyone wants to thrive in their lives in some way, shape or form. There's just no way that you're going to do that with that much stinking thinking. So, hey, let's be intentional about our thoughts. And then that's where I kind of help people. So that's kind of how I see different audiences and how I kind of stay comfortable with it, because I could share that illustration literally

in any room in the world. Because everyone would go, man, if I'm going to be that negative, there's no way I'm going to accomplish my goals. You're right. So, hey, let me give you some positive affirmations. Let me give you some positive thoughts that you can take with you to help you achieve your goals. Let me give you some positive thoughts that can help you draw on your relationship with

the guy. Let me give you some positive thoughts that can help you grow in your relationship with God. Let me give you some positive thoughts that can help you grow in your marriage. So I can be speaking at a marriage conference, I can be speaking at a leadership conference, I can be speaking to a marketing team, but no one is going anywhere with negative things. So I just try and big stuff like that. You should know what that means already.

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And I think that's, you I think that's a great perception shift for anybody instead of focusing so much on what's different and why it can't work. Let's start focusing on what is similar and what can work. So I love that you did that. Now you've got a new book coming out, leveling up 12 questions to elevate your professional and personal growth, give us some insight

into what we're going to get there. So during a pandemic, I started in executive coaching practice because I was home a lot and I had a whole lot more time than I thought. And so a lot of clients that I speak for would say, hey, you know, would you coach me? Would you, you know, so I kind of fell into executive coaching. Like it was just, it just, it just kind of happened. And naturally, as I started having these different sessions, I was learning just as much as they were like learning from, for me, and I was, I was learning more about some of their nuances and some of the things that they were navigating.

And everyone, obviously, I said, home. And so work life balance became like obvious because right now, you're in my home. There is something about them, so it's like, okay, you can see my family on the wall. You're in my home office. And so if one of my children busts through the door right now,

it'd be like, oh, and obviously, that's happened for a lot of us. I was on Zoom the other day and some lady had two cats in the background, full on boxing. I was like, man, do you see what's happening in the background? I got like, we never happened five years ago. But it's like, now I know something about her that I didn't know before.

And that's actually kind of interesting. And so it's like, I would have never thought, oh, what does woman have to deal with this morning was her cats are fighting. Except for some people, it's their kids are fighting. For some people, it's, we're acting not even speaking terms anymore. And those things became very, very real. And so from those sessions, I started to realize people were really struggling with burnout, people were really struggling with like just kind of been a lull, really stuck, coasting. People were kind of having a life that they tolerate, but they didn't really feel like they had permission to like really thrive in their life.

And so I started the way I do executive coaching is I don't like to tell you what to do. I like to ask you questions. I like to get you thinking. And so as different questions began to formulate, I came up with 12 questions that I think are essential for a person that really lead themselves. If I equip you with the right question, you don't need me in the room. Because you're asking the right questions without anybody in the room. And sometimes when people are in the room, it's good to ask them that question too. And so, for example, one of the questions in the book is, what's it like to be on the other side of me? What's it like to be on the other side of me? I think every single person should be answering that question. Hey, what's it

like to be on a date with me? Hey, what's it like to be married to me? What's it like to be parented by me? What's it like to be on the other side of an interview for me? What's it like to be travel with me? What's it like to be at a Thanksgiving table with me? What's it like to be stuck in a group chat with me? What is it like to get an email from me? What's it like to get a reply all from me? What's it like? Like, I don't think people really think about what it's like to be on the other side of them.

And so we can all think of somebody in our life or our business that isn't self-aware. Like that definitely aren't asking that question. But at some point I think we all have to be considerate that because sometimes I say, hey, you know, have you thought about what it's like to be on the other side of you? They're like, yeah, it's awesome.

Yeah, it's amazing to be on the other side of me. To be married to me, you're lucky. They should go, you know. And I'm just like, are you sure it's as awesome as you think it is? Because it may not be. And so I think each of us should enter into every room going, man, it might be harder than I think it is to work for me.

Like I think, like right now I think, there's some other works for Ryan Lee, it's awesome. Like, of course it's awesome. It's like, Ryan, are you sure it's awesome? Like, it's like you're driving a school bus going 120 miles an hour, people are in the back scared. You're like, ooh, isn't this fun? It's just like not for everybody else in the back

that doesn't get to where it seat belts, you know? And so I consistently have to think about that even for my family and the people that I work with and live with and just think, man What's it like to be on the other side of me? What's it like to be led by me? What's it like to have me on the team? What's it? You know, and it's one of my friends He told me because I asked because I think it's important that you ask yourself this because I think it's a nice Soberworn question it helps when it you verify it with someone go, hey, what is it like to be on the other side of me? And he said to me something the other day that I just thought was show so on point

and he told the story. He said, you know, sometimes I think about if I ever meet Matt Damon, my biggest fear is that my life would not be interesting enough for him to pay attention. That's what he said. He goes, and I wonder if you have that effect on people. He said, because you do cool stuff. You make cool people. You always have a story. You always have a travel story.

You've always met someone. He goes, so sometimes people will come up to you and share a story. And I wonder if they have somewhat of a meter of going, how interested is he in my story, given that it's not on the level of his? He's like, so if I were you, I would just be mindful of what it's like

to be on the other side of you. So when someone comes up to me after a event, like I just shared some stories about coping, crying and the lakers and NBA team, sometimes people will walk up to me and they don't want to tell me their story about how they scored a touchdown in seventh grade. And for me, because he told me that, I have to put myself on the field with them in seventh grade and be on the edge of my seat like, so did you score? Okay, wait, did you jump over the guy?

Or did you like, because now it's like, it's no longer about me. And I don't want them to feel like this, like, well, I guess I got to be an NBA superstar to keep Ryan's attention. It's like, no, no, no, like whoever you are, like, I'm right here, I'm locked in. So again, I think that's the power of asking

a very simple question. What's it like to be on the other side of me? So I called them 12 loaded questions in this book, and it helps a person really lead themselves. I think you should be asking yourselves the right question. Obviously, I can talk about every question all day long, but that's chapter two right away. So, you're winding down with the podcast. Sounds like you have no plans to leave the couch tonight.

Nope, you just want to unzip your jeans, slip on a pair of fuzzy slippers, and rip open a bag of skinny pop popcorn. Because the only place you're going tonight is the bottom of this bag of popcorn. It's so powerful because no matter how self-aware somebody is, we all have moments where we lose it. I was at a wedding last weekend with a bunch of friends and everyone was just, you know, taking the selfies and we noticed that the groom had a setup where he wanted you to take in polaroids and leaving them with notes.

We noticed this an hour after we got there, Ryan. I mean, it was one of those moments where you're like, okay, guys, we need self-awareness right now. Let's dial it down. So I so appreciate your questions. And this time, you didn't stop with just creating a book. You're also launching a course alongside of it. What does that look like? So it's a self-leadership course. It's taking people through six areas. I think that they can master to level up in their life. Like I said, I think a lot of people settle for life that they tolerate.

Most of their life is I have to. This course is designed to help you move into a place where you get to. And so one of the things we outline in the course is that there are six levels to live in. The lowest level is aimless. Level six is mastery. Mastery is where you are in a position where you are doing so well that things aren't perfect,

but you're doing well enough that you're actually investing in other people when teaching them how to do it as well. That's the goal of the course. It's to get you in a position where you're at minimum thriving of going like, man, you know what? I am not just on autopilot. My life is not on cruise control. We are going somewhere. It doesn't mean we're going there fast, but it does mean that we are very, very intentional about our relationships and about our goals. And for those that like really are like, no, I feel like I wanna live exponentially. Well then, the last module in this course

is all about how to master that and how to essentially make an impact on other people. Yesterday, one of my friends and I were talking, he goes, so what's your goal with all this speaking stuff? I said, well, my goal is actually to build other speakers. That's what I wanna do. Like, at the end of my life, well, my goal is actually to build other speakers. That's what I want to do. Like, at the end of my life, I want to be able to look at hundreds of speakers that I've said,

hey, I've helped you figure out ways to communicate your story and help people solve their problems. And now they built up whole speaking businesses and whole empires and books and podcasts and courses. And being able to pull content out of people and help them package it in a way that actually helps other people. It's like for me, that's exponential living. That's ripple effect living. It's not just about how many courses can I create in my lifetime? How many

books can I write in my lifetime? How many companies can I speak for around the world? No, those things are going to happen naturally based off of the trajectory of my life, but for me, I'm measuring that exponential growth of going, man, how can I invest in some other people and help them grow their businesses and see things take off in them? Purpose, passion, legacy, joy, you just nailed all of it. I couldn't agree more. Ryan, tell us where can we get the book leveling up and where can we get the course? RyanLeague.com You get everything. Anything RyanLeague is at RyanLeague.com. I'm on all social platforms. RyanLeague.com is where you can see some motivational keynotes, some previews, you can see book stuff, course stuff, everything's gonna be at RyanLake.com.

All right, I will link that in the show notes below and check out the elevation youth keynote. It is incredible. Gabe Mechils, Ryan, thank you so much for the amazing work you're doing. I appreciate it. All right, guys, until next week, keep creating your confidence. At a time when change is constant and we are pulled in far too many directions, we need a way to stay present to life and to increase our ability to remain calm, think clearly, and maintain our well-being. Many studies indicate mindfulness improves our mental, emotional, and physical health.

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