Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - What Happens When You Realize That YOU Are Enough with Lisa Lampanelli Episode 143

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

What does it take to pick yourself up out of the grind and make a change? The incomparable Lisa Lampanelli is back with me today to discuss that very question. Lisa is a world-renowned comedian turned storyteller and inspiration who has gone through a tidal wave of work to embrace a healthier life. She has downsized! She has prioritized! And she now has room in her life for the important things to flow in. She shares how she figured out how to go from overwork to balance, grieve through transitions, and put self love first. Join us as Lisa and I dive head first into the life altering journey that starts with “you are enough”.  About The Guest: With a career that spanned more than 30 years, Lisa Lampanelli was a constant on the comedy scene. With numerous tours, Grammy nominations, and national TV guest appearances and specials under her belt, Lisa made headlines in 2012 when she lost more than 100 pounds with the help of bariatric surgery. The comedian went on to speak with unflinching honesty about her lifelong food and body-image issues, and has since gone from insulter to inspirer. She announced her retirement from stand-up comedy on the Howard Stern radio program in late 2018 and is now dedicating her life to performing in storytelling shows and being a general overall bad-ass.   Finding Lisa Lampanelli: Website: https://lisalampanelli.com/  Listen to Losers With A Dream Podcast Twitter & Instagram: @LisaLampanelli Review this podcast on Apple Podcast using this LINK and when you DM me the screen shot, I buy you my $299 video course as a thank you!    To pre-order Overcome Your Villains NOW and get the bonus bundle click here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com     See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals. We've come adversity and set you up for better tomorrow. After no sleep, I'm ready for my close time. I and welcome back. I am so excited for you to have actually, I was going to say my amazing guest this week,

but my amazing guest this week was actually one of my first guests ever in 2019 when I launched the show. But today I have the amazing announcement of having Lisa Lampanelli, a storyteller performer and inspiration to millions back on the show. She's gonna career that's spanned more than 30 years. Lisa was a constant on the comedy scene, numerous tours,

Grammy nominations, national TV guest appearances, and specials under her belt. Lisa made headlines in 2012 when she lost more than 100 pounds with the help of bariatric surgery. The comedian went on to speak with unflinching honesty about her lifelong food and body image issues. She since gone from insultor to inspire her major change. She announced her retirement from standup comedy on the Howard Stern radio program in late 2018 and is dedicating her life to performing in storytelling shows, inspiring others,

and being here as a guest today, Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. Oh my God, of course, I'm here with my little rescue dog Parker, who is so needy that God forbid his mother wouldn't be retired. Like thank God, I'm essentially retired. Now hang out with two dumb dogs.

I think they would freak out if I didn't. So yes, I am happily working on very little these days and thrilled to tell you about it. I can't believe that the pace at which that you kept for so many years, Lisa, is, it's got to be exhausting. I mean, when you look back, do you miss that pace or are you happier to be taking it easy now? I have to tell you, we were chatting off the air before we came on and I was reading about retirement. And when I retired from standup,

I literally can say, I honestly telling you the truth when I say there's one thing I miss about the old life, like literally nothing, what's to miss? Seeing different hotels, airports, and theaters every day. The only thing I miss is talking about myself, which my podcast, which I'll tell you more about later, you know, that obviously is a nice outlet for that because I could show people some of my wisdom

when I've learned along the way. But dude, there's literally such a hard life with comedy that thank God I was raised by depression to our parents who were like, save your money and if you don't wanna do it anymore, you don't have to. And I think I'm finally after all these years of like, oh, do I do nothing? Do I do a little of this? Do I do a little of that? Do I just sit around and pretend I have hobbies, which BTW, I don't. What's the balance in retirement? Because I think a lot of people

struggle with it, but there's no books about it. I found one book on retiring the mental and emotional stress and grief of it. So it's very interesting to be going through that. And I'm glad I'm learning. Well, I mean, good for you. You're always learning. You're always evolving. I mean, you're constantly embracing these transitions that you go through and you're so real in sharing it. I don't know many people that are retiring. It's not like you have to, first of all, right? You have shows that you can be doing. You have audiences, you have huge following.

So what was making you say, okay, I wanna start dialing it back even more? So I think what happens is we get on a track of some sort and you start doing clubs. And it's the same stuff of parallels anyone in business or any career, you start doing clubs. You start getting paid. You start doing theaters if you're lucky TV film. And then you start doing Radio City, Cardigay Hall and next Madison Square Garden. And it literally dawns on you one day that,

none of this is filling the hole. Like they're hole inside that we're all trying to fill with some kind of achievement that never gets filled with that. And the only thing that fills us from the inside is self-love. And that's the thing we forget to work on, or at least I did. So when I started noticing my own life that I didn't love doing stand-up anymore,

I hate to travel. Like I literally now, if you told me I never had to go outside of my state, again, I'd be thrilled. Because that's not me, I'm not born that way. So you start noticing and then you go, huh, well, if I don't like it, why am I doing it? And I don't want the audience to start seeing that. And now it's sort of after three years or so of trying different experimenting with what do I want to fill my time with. I do very little, but the stuff I do, I look at my calendar and I'm like, oh, I love that. Oh, I love that.

I love that. And there's nothing that's horrible. And there was a lot that was horrible, but of my own doing, getting on some track of like, oh, find acceptance through comedy, try to connect through comedy. How about I connect in my real life? How about I go to the store and say hi to the clerk and not be in such a rush? Like, there's connection

everywhere and it doesn't just have to come through show business or work. It's so interesting you say that for a long time. And I think this happens to most people is that you get in some track,

whatever it is, business comedy, whatever, and that you don't pick your head up to think, I'm not really happy going to work every day. I don't really love this. No, you start thinking, this is what I'm supposed to do.

I have to pay the bills. This is the decision I made. There's no chance that you could just pump the brakes and try to do something different. Right. And what's funny is everyone can change and what they do. And they say, I think they say now, people have three different careers throughout their life. Instead, it used to be three I think they say now people have three different careers

throughout their life. Instead, it used to be three different jobs. Now it's like three different careers fully, and I did, and I'm like, oh, why can't I change? I mean, nope, I could always move to a small house, which I did. I could always like, you know, stopping fancy, which that was just another attempt

to fill the hole. Like, why do I have to be fancy? Like, why do I have to buy the clothes and the shoes and the shoes and the bags and all this ridiculous stuff? Because it never fills that internal thing. So we get scared to change, though, because with any change, even if it's a good one,

there's a loss. So if I changed from unhappy celebrity comic to happy retiree. There's still loss in grief and we're afraid to feel it because there's a loss of identity. There's the, wow, I'm not somebody anymore in anyone else's eyes. I'm just kind of this chick who kind of goes to the store

and does her little ballroom dance class and does her podcast and she's kind of just like us. So again, there's a loss you feel it and the key is going, well, it to change for the better, but I'm still going to have to feel that grief and sadness and get through it instead of not feel it. So I think that's why people are just afraid to change and I get it. It's hard. I like that point that you made that change is representing some kind of loss. I don't really think of it consciously that way, the way that you articulated it. So thank you

for saying that because we are all being hit with so much change and with it we're not necessarily stopping to say, oh my gosh, I just gave up or lost something as a result of this. Even if it is something good, like you just mentioned. Yeah, your life couldn't get better, but you're still going to have lost from the past that you have to go through. And everybody thinks grief is just about when someone dies. And it's like, there's, we talked about it on my podcast,

death of a dream is huge, which is basically, say someone always wanted kids but ended up couldn't. You still have to grieve the kids you didn't have. It's somebody wanted to say me, it would be, you know, say it was Madison Square Garden, even though that wasn't a huge dream. Say it was, I would have to grieve that. And there's nothing wrong with feeling sad.

Obviously, you don't want to get stuck in it and have what they call complicated grief, which is where your life cannot move on. And you have to really figure out why you're stuck, but it helps you get through it. It helps you go, oh, I'm allowed to be sad and move on. And it's just astounding to me. I just cannot believe how much better life can be if you change it, but going through it is hard. Going through the change is that's the hard part because you don't know what's on the other side. It isn't guaranteed that Lisa Lampinelli is going to be happy if she is the retired comedic person. Like you said, you're willing to give up the loss not knowing

what's on the other side and that's really scary. Yeah, what helps people through I think what helped me was like, we never know what's on the other side of anything. Like literally, who knows what will happen when I step out the door today to get the mail? Like who knows what will happen if I go in the backyard? Like you just don't know. So when we go, one, we really are powerless and we really can't control anything. And people like me, we've been brought up the way I have, we have control issues. We want everybody to do what we say and we want our life to go as planned. Nothing goes as planned. And resilience, I noticed too. Like everybody throws around the word resilience. I had tons when it came to career. Like I'd bounce back, I'd do this. None in real life.

I didn't know how to come back after argument with someone. I didn't know how to come back in Sam. Sorry, I didn't know how to come back when it was, you know, getting knocked down from some bump door, somebody's list for a party. Like, I just was like, how do you, how do people keep coming back? And I'm, oh, I did it with comedy, but not in my life. And now I'm learning how to keep doing comebacks, which is funny because when we first met, I was doing retirement one way, which was definitely still busyness, which was like I was trying to be a life coach, which I found out I didn't like. Because I don't like being a coach,

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And I literally got rid of like, I downsize my houses. I bought the house I grew up in from her. It's so cute and little and I have the dogs. I was like, I'm just gonna sit and I'm gonna enjoy life and declutter and I'm like, well, that lasted six months. And I'm like, okay, what brings me joy and a little happiness? And I started just experimenting these little tiny pursuits,

like little and small, and I just go, oh my God, I have cute little hobbies that don't look like anyone else's. They're not knitting or quilting or drawing. I'm no talent whatsoever, and that's stuff. But what can I do?

I like talking. I like writing. So, but very small quantities. So I don't feel like I'm back in the grind. And there's no goal with the capital G. It's living, you know what it is, it's like living with a ton of small G goals, no big one. Like, there's no big G goal in my life other than to like myself. So, that'll be when I'm 80, because like, you know, I got to work on it for 20 years,

till I really like myself, I think. I got 20 more years left. But I'm like, wow, everything else is just fun and light and little J and I have to pull it back if it becomes a goal. Because then I'll get back on the stand-up comedy, not physically doing stand-up, but I'll get in that mindset of like, it's never enough. It's like, right now, if I quit everything, I'm enough.

And it's just learning that. So it's a very, it's an interesting place to be in that not a lot of people talk about. It's profound, it's really big. If you could go back, do you wish you had learned this earlier or do you think that would have hurt your career if you were willing to let go of these things? I would have been willing to not have much of a career

if I had more self-love. Definitely, like who cares? Money means literally nothing. We'll always, we're all, you know, not every person on earth, but you and I, people listening probably, we'll always have a roof over our head. We'll always have food in the fridge. We'll be fine.

We'll find a friend here, they're relative. We can always stay with someone. So the fact is, if I could have done things with, oh, that sounds like a cute thing. Stand up comedy. Oh, I'm going to like keep the mindset I did when I was an open micro because that's the best time ever when your comic is just starting out not getting paid, sitting at the diner with the guys afterwards and just being like, hey, man, what do you think of this joke? What do you think of that? And I'm like, what's funny? That level is a blast.

And then the stakes start going up. And you've got to stay, quote unquote, on top of whatever it is. Do your, like, I did a ton of tonight shows. I did a ton of roasts. I did a five comedy central and HBO specials. I mean, it was rarefied air. So it's cute to remember that and go, oh, that's cute. Like, I got to stay and HBO Specials. I mean, it was rarefied air. So it's cute to remember that and go, oh, that's cute. Like, I got to stay in these fancy places.

But you go, didn't really do anything, not really. Because when you go back and you start thinking of what I really remember as far as heartwarming things that I did, it's like, all that person who came up after and said, the show helped them through their life or asked grief, which was huge for me. Or, oh, I cooked Thanksgiving dinner for my whole family for the first time when I was 50 or whatever it is.

Those are the things I remember. And I'm like, oh yeah, Radio City, that's fine. I'm not ashamed of an accomplishment. We should all feel proud. But then I recognized this work. It really wasn't anything else. It just worked. Everybody's just going to work.

So I would have loved less success, more real connection with my life and myself. And that would have been really cool. But I wasn't brought up that way. It wasn't my journey. And thank God I always laughed because I go, the best thing money can do right now for me. If I need therapy seven days a week, I can afford it. So it's almost like you use whatever you

have to show for your career to make yourself better and the world better, hopefully because if you're better in the world, everyone around you feels it. I also think people didn't talk about this kind of stuff years ago, not even five years ago. I didn't really hear about this and your message is essentially self love first and that's the quality of life and that's the real goal, right? But no one

taught any of us that growing up or even as a young adult, I certainly didn't know and I certainly don't have it figured out. Now, however, I'm aware of it because of conversations like this one. So at least we have the awareness, and hopefully someone's hearing this today and thinking, oh, this is a good reminder that I don't just have to check the box, to check the box. Maybe I could spend a little time with myself doing something that's special for me, and

that could be the goal today. 100% like I think the biggest thing to remember is three words you are enough and if that is the goal that by the end of your life starting today you can start to figure out how to know you're enough without accomplishing one more thing. You are not your accomplishments, you are not your money in the bank, you are not anything other than you were put on this earth to be you. And I'm like, wow, if I could be a little less angry tomorrow, if I could be a little more kind and hold the door tomorrow, if I could be a little more patient with the old person tomorrow, it's like, oh, that's why I was put here. I wasn't put here to make money and to be fabulous. It's like, it's kind of like pretty basic. Like, it's not hard to figure out

if you slow down. I'm sure you get this too, dude. You've always understood it. We don't slow down. Like, there's, because shit comes up like, dude, like today, even I had the whole morning off and I was like, oh, my God, things are coming up. Uh-oh, I'm doing too much. I feel like I have to accomplish something. Oh, my God, notice it, figure out the feeling, work through it, and then you're better off because then you can fully be present for whatever you do that day.

But slowing down makes you feel and think, and no one wants to do any of that stuff, because that's hard. That's hard. be present for whatever you do that day. But slowing down makes you feel and think and no one wants to do any of that stuff because that's hard. That's hard. Harder and in millions of dollars, it's hard feeling, you know. And also, especially depending on how you were growing up,

I was a middle child and I definitely was an overachiever. So I started noticing at a very young age, when I get MVP, when I hit the ball out of the park, I'm get people are excited with me. I've got to do that again. I like how that I want people to come. And I'm not going to lie, I'm 47. I still love what I give a keynote speech

to people, can't say, oh, that was a myth. I get so excited. It's hard to detach from that feedback. But there's not a problem with being if liking that feedback, that's badass. Like I was at a comedy club to support a friend the other day. And like I got recognized so much,

I don't get recognized that much anymore because of my hair and because I lost all the weight. And you know, most of my appearances were for that. But a lot of people were travels and they're like, oh my God, that's her and stuff. It's so much fun to have people come up. Even I was at a ballroom dance thing because I ballroom dance badly twice a week.

And Michael and I was to do everything badly because it's just more fun. Like what am I gonna try to be all fancy and be on dancing with the stars? No. And one of the original dancing with stars, dancers was on, was at this event. And he was my mom's favorite.

And she just loved him. So I had to go tell him and I got a kick out of the fact that he knew who I was that he was like oh we'll have to have dinner with me you and my wife and I was like well that felt good but be careful see my thing is you can't need it you have to enjoy it it like the money or anything it's not saying down play accomplishments or money or a nice car. It's saying, yeah, I like it, but I can't need it. The only thing I think I really, actually, you know, I've been listening so much to the minimalist podcast that I'm like,

we don't really need anything. We like literally need a small piece to live in food. Like this kind of it. We don't even need people. I mean, we want them. It makes our life more pleasant. I love my dogs, but we don't need a lot. And I think, this funny, I was at a friend's house yesterday, she was talking, I was she wanted to be a screenwriter and they live in a gorgeous, like, multi-million dollar house. And I'm like, well, you don't need this house. Oh, yes, we do. And at that point, you like, you don't argue with people, you just go, okay, no, that's great, because that's her journey.

Nobody could have told me two years ago, I didn't need a multi-million dollar house. It's hilarious, why the F does one person, and 10 pounds of dog need a house like that. And yes, I think we're all afraid to downsize to what is really resonating with us on the inside instead of this outside stuff. So yeah, it's a, again, you can't argue to people

into your journey, that's their path, but you gotta recognize your own self of how you are reacting on your journey, which is why I got out in the first place. I feel like having watched you and knowing about your history, you started this. This isn't brand new for you. You started this process a few years ago.

You started giving up the clothes in the bags. You started giving up, you let go of the weight, right? Like you started making these changes where you were dropping things through time to get you now to where you're okay now dropping the next layer of things. A husband? Then thank God we're still friends. I had a very pleasant divorce. The husband, I think starting 50 years old up was, and I just turned 60, I think that's the, that's when all

the shedding started. Again, it's not that deliberate. I need to rid my house of everything. I have a lot of stuff, but it's all sentimental. And again, do I need all that? No, I still remember my parents and everyone in my life. So it did start with the more the stuff that was very surfacy, the bad marriage, the wait, the too many places to live, the too expensive stuff, furniture, all that. I was like, oh, that's cute. I can get rid of that. Don't need that. Any of that.

And then it became career. It's like I have literally minimized my whole life. And it feels so much better because they say, if you want something and a happier life, you don't add things, it's what you take out. So if I'm taking out meaningless things, other meaningful things rush in to fill that. And it's like, oh, it's okay for your drawers. I just gave my nephew, you laugh. I have these very hip cool nieces and nephews who are musicians and

skateboarders and stuff. So they love all these old 90s sweaters that my mom had. So I saved him about, oh god, I saved them like 20 of them. And he said, oh, these are so bad. As they're gonna love these at school. And they're awful, but they love them kids. Gave it to him. And I said, hey, Tanner, isn't it interesting? There's two empty drawers here now.

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Like, can you imagine like the stuff that's just been rushing into my life in the past two years that make it full? Like these weird little connections with real people. I'm like, oh, how did I end up with so many cute acquaintances and little things to do and fun hobbies because I had an empty at first and then not feel empty and see what comes in to say yes to. I talk a lot about firing your villains, firing negative people from your life

to open up space to allow good things to come in. And it's such an appropriate analogy from what you're explaining because I haven't thought about it the way that you articulated it that it's not about what you're adding to like it's what you're subtracting from it so something better can be added. Yeah like I used to always use that when I would talk about men or relationships because I've like if you're holding onto something your hands aren't open to receive so I always thought about when it came to man or bad relationships. But then like, oh my God, it's the whole life to give you a shameless plug

with a quick story for my podcast. And again, something I do out of just love for the two people I'm doing it with. I literally was asked by a niece of mine to go see this stand up comic who was just starting a few years ago before COVID. I said, oh, he's got something. And then it was fine. I was like, oh, give him some notes. That's it. Womped into him during COVID at an UPS. No problem. Reconnected after COVID. And I overheard him and another male comic. Straight guys, white guys talking so freaking deep and vulnerable. I'm like, okay, wait a minute. I've never heard two straight guys talk

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It's acceptance, vulnerability. We did fear of success. We did all that deep stuff you and I talk about and that we read about and then I go in for a half hour and life coach them and make fun of them and have a good time. So it's kind of rusty too. That rushed in.

Meeting these guys rushed in because I had enough time in space to notice when my niece said, let's go see this guy. I wasn't squeezing it in going, but I'm very important. I have so much to do. I'll give you 10 minutes. It was because, oh, that's cute.

My niece wants to do that. And then I just kept noticing what worked and made me feel joyful and peaceful. And I've never worked on a project. It's so weird. I would say since those open mics, when I first started comedy, that I cannot wait to get to that studio, cannot wait. We have a writing meeting every week and we're writing

a sitcom pitch that will never be made because networks are so crazy and it's okay just have fun with it. I'm like, wow, that's just pure joy and I get, I think getting a kick out of something is something I didn't notice before. So I think that shows that when you have that little empty space inside to have some fun, you can say yes to the right stuff. So that's why I like it. What's the name of the show Lisa? Oh yeah, it's called Losers with a Dream. And that's from one of the Comedy Central Roasts, when I used to talk about the whole day as of comics and people up on the stage, I would say. But enough about these Losers with a Dream. used to talk about the whole deus of comics and people up on the stage, I would say. But enough about these losers with a dream. Let's talk about Hulk Holt code.

Whatever. And the reason we call the podcast that, and I gave them that name, I said, because we're all kind of losers, but we all have dreams. So I've lost in certain ways. We've all have lost in our lives. And these guys are kind of like, ah, we suck at dating, we suck at life kind of and work, but we're really trying. So we all have that dream of having fulfillment. So that's why I like that the show called that because it's cheeky, but it also we're all kind of losers and that's okay. We're all misfits. We're all the island of misfit toys. We're all dented cans trying to bang out the dents. Thank God we're the people trying to bang the dents out

instead of being the dented cans who run around and just hurt people. Oh, it's so true. Hurt people are out there hurting people now more than ever. You see it online. It's crazy, right? And I'm just like, I have been a hurtful person

in my life in instances, definitely. And I said, when I retired, if anyone had their feeling cert, they should definitely contact me. And I would apologize because, boy, it's powerful when you get an apology. I've gotten someone given some and it's transformative. So I really like to go, okay, just because I was hurt in my life doesn't mean I have to hurt you.

And it's owning that stuff. And starting to forgive yourself for those things, for those mistakes and let it go and not torture yourself over it. Well, it's interesting you say that because I still beat myself up a lot for various things. Like it's interesting with the weight and food stuff has been so rampant, especially with COVID. It's like people are hitting themselves up for gaining COVID weight. And I remember I was like,

oh, I had weight loss surgery 11 years ago, kept my weight off. It's like a miracle because so many people don't. And I literally in COVID was convinced in my head because I'm so eating disordered that I had gained 20 pounds. I would not put on anything but sweats and I get on a scale a year later and I had gained six. So I had lived my life beating myself up for a year

about something that didn't even happen. And then what I did was I was talking to my shrink about. I'm like, I'm going to forgive myself for those six pounds and if they don't go anywhere, they don't go anywhere. And six pounds, who cares? We're judging ourselves by, oh, I didn't make it up to the top level of having a sitcom. I didn't make it to where I was assigned zero. You know, guess what?

We did okay. We're never gonna be the best. We're never gonna be the worst. We're somewhere in between, and that's okay. Lisa, you're so happy, you're so genuine. I am so happy for you. I'm so happy to see you continue to evolve and be stepping into doing something

that brings you so much joy. So thank you for creating this show. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability. It means the world for people to hear someone who they have on a pedestal out there because of all of the work that you did in the world, of everything that you created, so now be this vulnerable and real,

just it means so much. Thank you for doing it. Oh man, I love you, dude. And honestly, I remember when we did our first thing and I was like, she's cool. Like I literally reach out to very few people about going on their podcast and stuff because, you know, again, this is the labor of love.

It's, you know, just fun. I was like, Heather was cool as F and plus your super hot and one of my co-hosts has said he will marry you instantly. I got your so pretty and smart. I like when guys recognize that girl's pretty and smart. So that's how I'm like, oh my gosh, so evolved. I so appreciate it. Well, where can we find the show? Yeah, everywhere. It's on Apple. It's on Spotify. Well, where can we find the show? Yeah, everywhere.

It's on Apple. It's on Spotify. It's called Losers with the Dream. We have almost 20 episodes out. I am so freaking proud of these millennials who can actually talk about stuff that's deep. I'm shocked because when I was 30, I couldn't. This is as vulnerable as I can get and I'm 60.

And I'm like, how am I learning from people my age, especially men? So yeah, they can find it everywhere. It's really funny, but it's very heartfelt too. And there's a few tears for me occasionally. I'm a big, uh, mushy heart when I have to be. So I hope you enjoy it. Oh, thank you so much, Lisa.

I love you too. It was so great to see you and everyone check out the show, Lisa, never disappoint. Yay, I love you. Do not talk to you soon. I can't see you. Thanks guys. I learned my job again.

I decided to change that time and I felt like I was. I couldn't be more excited for what you're getting here. I started learning and growing. And inevitably some people happen. No one sixties alone. You don't stop and look around once in a while. You can miss it. I'm on this journey with me.

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