Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - Why You Must FAIL In Order To Succeed, With Kelly Roach Business Growth Consultant Episode 245

Episode Date: August 23, 2022

In This Episode You Will Learn About:  Self improvement  What it takes to MAKE IT as an entrepreneur   Overcoming adversity   Growing an audience online  Resources: Website: kellyroachcoaching.com Read The Live Launch Method  Book a Consulting Call  Listen to The Kelly Roach Show Email: [e-mail]  LinkedIn: @Kelly Roach, CEO  Instagram: @kellyroachofficial Facebook: @kellyroachshow Twitter: @kellyroachlive Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com  If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Show Notes:  Working on yourself is the most important job you’ll ever have! Hold yourself accountable! CEO and business growth expert, Kelly Roach, joins me to share what it takes to build an 8-figure business and believe in yourself along the way. Kelly will clue us in on how to use social media and online marketing to GROW your brand, while staying AUTHENTIC to who you are! STOP letting challenges intimidate you, and step fearlessly into your future. After all, you have to FAIL to succeed!  About The Guest: Joining me is THE business strategist to know! Kelly Roach transforms overworked entrepreneurs into 7 figure CEOs by teaching them how to leverage timeless business principles. Employed by billion dollar corporations, Kelly is known for her powerful online marketing tactics and her Unstoppable Entrepreneur Program!    If You Liked This Episode You Might Also Like These Episodes: What To Do When You’re Hit With Challenges with Heather!  Change Your Brain, Change Your Income With John Assaraf The CEO Of NeuroGym  Jason Feifer Editor & Chief of Entrepreneur Magazine: How To Begin To Build A Personal Brand  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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because none of those people are doing anything. They're not the people you should be paying attention to anyway working on yourself is so important Because so many people's behavior is dictated by the perceived opinions of people that I've no business having an opinion about them We are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity, and set you up for better tomorrow. After no sleep, I'm ready for my close time. Hi, and welcome back. I'm so glad you're here with me today and can't wait for you to meet the business strategist, Kelly Roach. She transforms overworked entrepreneurs into seven figure CEOs by teaching them how to leverage

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to rise to the top, break the glass ceilings and make a lasting change globally. She's also doing philanthropic work with one-on-one business model that cleans drinking water to those who do not have access through her human family foundation. Kelly, I'm so excited to have you here today. Thanks so much for having me. All right, so as you're talking about offline, you know, of course I want to hear about your business strategies to help my listeners reach that next level

of success and I know that that's what you're out there teaching, even today you're out at a conference right now. Your own conference teaching a group of people and taking a break to sit here with me. I want to hear about these business tips and strategies, but it opened my eyes when we were having a conversation to hear that things have not always been so easy for you. Yes, you had a lot of success in corporate America. Yes, you have massive success as an entrepreneur, but you've really hit some low points, too. It's been amazing. I think that in the world of online marketing and with social media, obviously, online entrepreneurs use social media to promote their brand and to grow their business. And so, obviously, the focus and the goal is to show how well you're doing,

to talk about what's working, to showcase all the goal is to show how well you're doing, to talk about what's working, to showcase all the highlights of your brand and of your life and of your business. And that's great. And it works, right? It works for all of us. But, you know, as our company went from seven to eight figures and I began to realize, like, okay, like I play a role in the conversation that is happening in the online space. I have a responsibility to actually let people know what it takes to build a

neat figure business, to run a team that is, you know, expand across the United States and serve thousands of clients and all these things. And I kept hearing all of these online influencers and course creators and people that have a huge voice in the online space saying, you know, it can be easy, it's going to be so fast, you know, you can do this overnight. Like, you know, and I started thinking to myself, I couldn't imagine if I was a new entrepreneur that was coming up today, that was working really, really hard to build my business and it wasn't happening overnight. And it wasn't easy. And it wasn't happening at hyper speed and it felt a little stressful

along the way. And I really put myself in the operating reality of what is the experience of the online entrepreneur that's not yet where we are, right? We came to the other side. Like, I already fought all the battles and went through all the scars and the wounds and made it to the other side. But how many entrepreneurs are having depression, anxiety, thinking about quitting their businesses, wanting to give up because the perception online

is that it's easy, you barely have to work. This is going to happen overnight for you, right? We all just hang out in our lambo's and in our private jets and sit on islands. There's really no work to be done. We actually can't find anything to do with our time because it's so easy, right? So I just realized, you know what? I'm going to do something different here. I'm going to be a truth teller. So I just started like two and a half years ago really talking about like what the true experience of entrepreneurship is and telling stories of, you know, just in the States that I've made and failures

that I've had and struggles and setbacks. And you know, I feel like when you have a voice, you have a responsibility to use that voice for good. And I do use my voice for good. Obviously, help people build widely successful business. That's what I do for a living. But there's a whole other piece of that, and that's the human element.

And so I just want the people out there to know, like when you see Heather, and Heather, you talked about this on my show, right? And when you see people like me, that run these companies and are having this level of success, like pure failure, like pure failure on the way to that success. Like so many mistakes, so many mistakes, so many setbacks,

so many moments of doubt. There's been so many times where I've shared publicly, like a big goal that I was setting in that afterwards. I'm like, why? Like, why could I put that back in my mouth? Why? Why did that just come out of my mouth? Like it just accidentally, because I was so passionate.

I like said the thing out loud that no one was supposed to hear because I didn't know how to do it, right? So yeah, so I mean, I think the big thing I just want entrepreneurs to know as you build your business that if it's going a little slower than you thought it would or if it feels harder or you're dealing with some stress along the way, that is you building the muscles that you need to get to where you want to go. You're not doing it wrong, you're not failing, you're actually right where

you need to be learning the exact things that you said that you wanted to learn so that you can get to where you want to go. And I just want to keep repeating that message over and over again because having crossed that bridge, what I'm seeing now, because I do coach so many people and building their businesses, is it's actually a perception gap that is killing so many businesses right now, and it's the perception of what does it take to be successful versus what it looks like to be successful.

And I believe that if we close that perception gap and people understand the amount of trial and error even with mentorship, even with coaching, businesses can't be built in theory. They can only be built on the field in the trenches every day. And I think if we're able to close that perception gap, I think many more people are going to make their dreams come true. And that's what my goal is. You know what's interesting to me about what you just said. and I'm really curious how you're going to answer this.

In my opinion, there's a big difference between working with someone a hypothetical client, right? And they're saying to you, Kelly, this isn't getting off the ground. I'm trying so hard and it's not working. And you know, you're cheering them on and trying to get them to work through these low moments. Like you're saying that you've had that I certainly have had for me, the pandemic was like the biggest low moment ever. My business got crushed and disappeared overnight. So we've all been in these really delicate moments where you do consider giving up. You do say, do I trash this business and start something new? What is that difference between someone who's just way off the market? It's not going to work or versus, hey, you got to grind this out and push through.

Yeah, that's such a good question. So I think that there's a difference between what we want to sell to someone versus what someone is interested in willing to buy. And that is a huge distinction that I see a lot of people get stuck in. They'll say, I see that this group of people really needs ABC XYZ.

Well, guess what? If that group of people really needs ABC XYZ, but they don't give a crap, and they're not willing to spend their money on it, and they're not interested in solving that problem, it doesn't matter that the problem exists. It doesn't matter that your perception of the problem is that it needs to be fixed. All that matters is, is this a problem that that group of people is both aware of, invested in correcting, and willing to put their money behind. Right? And so I do think that there is times where people's passion or heart gets confused with actually making a match between market viability and desire to sell something that people are willing to spend money on.

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and your business will accelerate as a result of the good you do. It's absolutely true. And I think that's a place where like the entrepreneur heart gets a little mixed up that we need to just like clarify. You know, for me, like we build wells through charity water.

We just funded another water project in Nepal. And we did that 100% based on book sales from the book that we launched earlier this year. I think that you can do as much good in the world as you want to as an entrepreneur. But if you're broke, it's impossible to do that. And I think a lot of people have a broken mindset because they have beliefs that make them feel guilty

about being really wealthy. And there are so many negative mindsets around wanting wealth, desiring wealth, loving money, and joining being rich. Even when I just said that right now, I bet there's some people that felt like a little uncomfortable with me just saying that. But you have to get over that.

If you wanna do a lot of good in the world, you have to have a way to facilitate that good. And for me, that's always been a driving factor on my business because I came from a family that we got a lot of philanthropy and we got a lot of help from other people and we couldn't help others because we were in scarcity. And so I said to myself, I'm going to be wealthy, I'm going to have money, I'm going to be rich, and I'm going to not be in scarcity so that I can do for others, so that I can give back so that

I'm on the other side of that equation. But I think as an entrepreneur, if you've been stuck at a money ceiling for a long time and you haven't been able to get past it, it's a lot of times it's not so much, are you selling the right thing or are you focused on the right market? I see people changing their market every other day, changing what they're doing. A lot of times is you don't truly own your desire to be wealthy. You're not allowing yourself to actually feel good in your gut and in your heart about making a lot of money. And I think you have to change that belief

before your exterior experience of life is gonna be an alignment with that, right? What are some of the tactics that you teach people to leverage so they can break through that limiting belief because as you did, I came from a family of scarcity and grew up poor, it's not that easy, right? It's not like flipping up, but it's something how you did or how you teach people to do it.

No, I agree with you. And I think the first thing is that we are in a deep state of denial, usually about the beliefs. So the problem is, is on the exterior, we say, we wanna be successful, we wanna make money, we build a business to be successful, but on the interior, we still don't associate ourselves with being wealthy, with being rich too,

feel good about that idea. So I think the first thing is like, stopping kidding ourselves and really taking the time to get aware of our own belief system. And I did an exercise recently with some of my clients and one of my programs around this. And what came up for a lot of them was that the beliefs were so deep seated, like hidden underneath the beliefs that you say that you have are the actual beliefs that drive everything that you're doing, right? And sometimes, and the number one belief that I think prevents entrepreneurs from becoming

really wealthy and really high net worth especially for women is that they believe that making a lot of money is in conflict with being a great parent, a great wife, you know, a family first person, all of those things. I've seen it come up over. And I'm talking about really successful people. So you have to ask yourself, what are my true beliefs? Identify and get clear on what those beliefs are. And then ask, where did they come from?

Because you mentioned something just a couple minutes ago. You came on my show and you were talking about making sure that you're getting advice and guidance from people that are where you want to be. And almost a hundred out of a hundred times when you look at a set of beliefs that you have that are not supportive of your goals, those beliefs came from someone who is not where you want to be. So if you don't want to replicate that person's results, don't replicate their beliefs. And most of us, I don't know about you Heather, but like I did not even learn about identifying and replacing beliefs until I was like almost 30. You know, I teach my daughter now, she's eight about like creating her belief system and we have these open conversations now. But when we were growing up, this wasn't an open conversation. Like no one was talking about this. So I feel like for a lot of us,

we're doing a lot of this deep work in like the middle part of our lives where there's a lot of our life that's kind of really already built around this set of beliefs that we didn't even know that we had. But the really beautiful thing about life and the really beautiful thing about being a human being with free will is that we can identify those beliefs. We can look at what the source of those beliefs were, we can ask ourselves if those beliefs are really true, we can ask ourselves if those beliefs are actually supportive of creating the outcomes that we want. And then most importantly, we can choose a new set of beliefs that do support the outcomes that we want that are in alignment with our life, not the life of the person that gave us those original beliefs, but in the line with the life that we're trying to create for ourselves. And I think this is one of the most important things to do in adulthood is to create a alignment between your beliefs, right?

Your actions and your outcomes. Because usually when you look at a person that says, my life isn't on track, my business isn't where I want it to be. The things that I want to make happen just aren't happening. And you say, well, show me your minds that show me what you're doing. There's no correlation between what they're doing and what they say that they want.

So if we bring those things together, it's like spontaneous combustion. Now you actually have the operating system working together to get to your goal instead of fighting against one another. So, it's so powerful. I'm so grateful that you brought this up because everybody has the ability to make these changes and it starts with just being aware. Like you said, ask me yourself the questions and then identifying where it came from and letting go of that and rewriting it today. So I absolutely couldn't agree with you more. I've gone through the same thing at 47. I'm still working through. I had someone point out to me that my father, when I was 12 or 13,

went out on his own and failed in entrepreneurship and went back to corporate America. And somewhere in the back of my subconscious, I was hanging on to this and this person pointed out to me. That's probably why it was so hard for me during the pandemic. I immediately went to, wait a minute, my speaking business just disappeared. That's my number one revenue stream. Oh my gosh, I'm failing. It's not going to, I wasn't finding the opportunities. I just started focusing on the scarcity and it was not a good time in my life, right? But it was so helpful to say, okay, I had to hit that really low moment to realize I was still even in my subconscious, hanging onto these beliefs that were really pulling me down.

And now I've been able to look at them and understand that for whatever reason my father was not successful and entrepreneurship has nothing to talk of. That doesn't impact how I'm gonna, where I'm gonna find success, how I'm gonna find success. It's just another point of contrast in life to look at learn from and grow from. That's exactly it. And then I think what I would just encourage everyone to do is like, I think sometimes our lives are so filled with busyness that we're repeating cycles on behaviors

and patterns and belief mechanisms that are keeping us treading water and that's so exhausting. and hisomes that are keeping us treading water and that's so exhausting. And I think a lot of times, it's our internal operating system that is the number one thing that's standing in the way of getting what we want. And I think the biggest thing that I've learned, like, especially as the business has elevated

and as I've elevated, is you have to slow down. Like working on yourself is like the number one thing and not just working on yourself because I think when you when you move into the world of entrepreneurship, I think it's generally accepted that you're going to like, you know, you're going to read books or you're going to listen to content or you're going to work with a mentor or coach. And that's one level of working on yourself. But I'm actually talking about like the deep extraction and the going within of actually exploring your thoughts, and your behaviors, and your history, and your why,

and things on a much deeper emotional level, which I think for a lot of high performers and high achievers, we're not highly emotional in how we operate, which is why we're so successful, because things don't swing us very easily. And when you're that person, you don't often slow down to examine emotions, because you're not a person living in your emotions all the time. And the biggest piece of advice I would give is like, take time to intentionally explore and learn more about yourself and try to understand

these things about yourself because it is a next level. It is a next level of performance and connection that you will be able to create with the people that you want to influence, the people that you want to serve, the people that you want to create a meaningful conversation within the market, you can tell when you're speaking to someone who's working on themselves, who's evolving, who is growing as a human, like it is evident. It is also evident, okay? When it is a person that 15, 20 years go by, they're telling the same story, they're talking about the same lesson, they're using the same phrases, they're talking about the same lesson. They're using the same phrases. They're teaching the same darn thing.

I have so many people that I liked lost trust in that I used to study because as I was growing, growing, growing, I saw that they weren't. And I was like, whoa, hold on a second. I'm not attaching my wagon to a human that's not growing anymore. And that's why it's so important, especially as we're in the online space,

and especially as you build a voice in the online space, everyone's gonna have an opinion about everything that you do. I did a video about this lately. People are gonna have an opinion about their opinion, about their opinion of what your opinion should be about your opinion. Okay, so the thing is, is really highly evolved and highly successful and wealthy people,

they don't have time, they don't care. They're all running their own race, they're doing their own thing, they could give due crops about whether your sweater's blue, your shirt's too tight, your hair doesn't look good today, you shouldn't have said this on social, you should have posted about that, they don't care, they're doing their own thing.. So all the noise that's distracting you and all the things that are deterring you and all the things that are holding you back because you're worried about this and you're listening to that and you're paying attention to this, it's all noise that's completely irrelevant because none of those people are doing anything. They're not the people you should be paying attention to anyway. And that's why I'm saying like working on yourself is so important because so many people's behavior is dictated by the perceived opinions of people that have no business

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everyone. This is so good. And it's something that I have not talked about on the show. So I hope everyone is catching this. Here's the crux of it is that I used to be in the radio business right forever 25 years or something crazy. And every time that I once in a while like every few months I get back out of college, these people are no my whole life, but I don't talk to them every day anymore. And I'll get back on a call with someone. I'm like, oh, what's going on? What's going on? Like catch me up. It's the same conversation we had six years ago when I was in the business.

Oh, Mark, it's tight, you know, it's the same, you know, the same negative feedback, how do you know what it's like? And I'm like, wait, you're telling me it hasn't changed in five years since I've been there. Nope, hasn't changed at all. Well, why don't you change? And they look at you like you're crazy. And they're like, what are you talking about?

Me change, this is the business. And that's one to your point. I'm like, ooh, I love you, I send you love. I wish you the best luck in the world, but this is where I'm going to like, the balls ending now. And I'm going to go back I love you. I send you love. I wish you the best luck in the world. But this is where I'm got to like the All's ending now and I've got to go back to my life to your point, which is like surrounding myself with people who are taking chances going out and learning testing and trying failing getting back up. Like I want to be that person at the end of my life is like I didn't live perfectly, but I went for it and I grew and I'm still growing on my deathbed today and I'm so grateful for that. So thank you for bringing that point up.

Yeah. I'm sure. There's way too much of it out there. All right, another question I have to that topic, you just brought up around personal brand because I get negative feedback on this too, is that I've been getting negative feedback. Once in a while, I'll bring up something about spirituality

or and I hadn't done that in the past couple of years and just started doing it this year. So that's a slight change, right? And like anything, when you test and try something new, bringing a different part of yourself forward, right? You're going to get positive feedback and negative. How do you with your brand and the presence that you have? How do you forward when you are growing or you're opening up other sides of yourself? How do you choose what to share? That's such an interesting thing and I'll share both sides of it. So I'll share something that I decided to start sharing and I'll say something that I have and the why behind both and how I make those decisions. So for me in the last couple years, I started sharing about my faith and my spirituality as well because I feel that I wouldn't be where I am in any way, shape or form without it. And so I feel that if I don't include that in the conversation that I'm

having with the market, it's almost like a lie because I rely on my spirituality and my faith every single day. It's a part of how I make every decision. It's a huge part of my life when I had my lowest moments where I was praying to God and saying, I literally had moments where I was so stressed, I was like, I don't wanna die, like God helped me. Like we've all had those moments, right? And so I did start sharing about it and I was scared and I've been in business 10 years

and my first eight years, I never murmur to peep about my faith or about spirituality or God or anything. And for the first time just three months ago I launched a new program where actually spirituality is an entire tenant of the program. And I said, this is going to be interesting because you know, people will either run screaming or, you know, they'll love it. And, you know, obviously I'm attracting the segment of the population that that gets that. But the reason that I decided that I'm going to start talking about it regardless of the outcome is because I feel like I would be a liar as a human being. It's central to who I am as a person.

And if I'm going to be a teacher and a public figure, I think it's important to share something that is such an essential piece of that. Now, on the flip side, I do not participate in any political conversations. I do not participate in any conversations about any of the socio-economic things that are going on in the world. I do not participate in the headlines. I do not participate in any of that. And the decision to do that I made many years ago. And it's because the moment that I step into that ring, then that takes the focus off of my purpose for being on the planet. There are plenty of people,

there are plenty of people who do that and they do that exceptionally well and there's people that that's actually they're calling. Like they're calling is the lead movement in this direction or that direction and that is central to who they are as a person and that is what they're meant to do. That is not what I'm meant to do and I also believe and I've never actually had this conversation but you asked the question so I'm just going to be honest and say it. I think it's very dangerous the echo chambers that are being created. I think it's it's unbelievably dangerous to create a false world in which the only people you allow to be in your space are people that agree with you. I personally do not want to have a client base that's one side in.

I don't want to have a group of people, whether it's my team, my advisors, my clientele, or my community that all are the same in their beliefs, their values and their opinions, I think that you can't learn and evolve and grow that way. And the moment that you take a side, you're basically saying no to this, yes to that. And unfortunately, and I don't believe this, but this is the way people are. People feel that they are this or that. They can't understand the importance of valuing our country was actually founded on debate. Debate used to be a healthy, meaningful way

that evolution happened. Innovation, disruption, reinvention came from debate. Now, if you have a different opinion, I mean, well, we must hate each other. Block your block to keep all are so proud to share online. How they, I'm blocking everyone that I don't like their posts today and only. But how does that possibly contribute to us moving forward, right? And so to give both contrast of that, this does not affect who I am, what I do.

So, with contrast of that, this does not affect who I am, what I do. The next headline on the news today, not going to change my behavior, not going to change my business, not going to change what I'm doing, not going to change my calling, not going to change. Right? Every cycle that we go through, everyone thinks it's the end of the world for this, it's the beginning of the world for that. And it's like, at the end of the day, it's all kind of what you do, it's you owning your own behavior.

Right? So, I'm not going to participate in that. I won't participate in that. Well, on the other side, I knew there's a risk bringing faith and God into the conversation. I know not everyone will like it, but I am not willing, I'm not willing to remove something that is so central, I believe, to everything that I've been able to accomplish in my life.

Oh, wow, we're so aligned on this. It's so funny. And thank you for being so transparent about that. You know, what you were just talking about reminds me of the movie, The Social Delema, on Netflix Guys, if you haven't seen this movie, go check it out. But it's really all about to Kelly's point that the more confirmation bias, the more that we only look for people that are white, that speak this way, that only like these kinds of people, and we surround ourselves with these people, we were signifying to social media

that we only wanna be fed those kinds of people. It really starts brainwashing ourselves into, there is only one way of thinking, there is only one truth, and then to your point, there is no longer healthy debate, there is fighting, and anger, and blocking, and I haven't seen it my own family so much. So I will not engage in any type of political conversation

with my birth family anymore because they literally won't have a drop down dragout fight over it. No one's going to win. We're not going to change who the president is in this conversation. So I don't really understand, you know, what's the point? I'll take that 30 minutes back in my life and go do something a little bit more productive. So I'm so with you on that. Kelly, tell us a little bit

about your show, which I recently was a guest on. I would love to hear because you are blowing it up with your podcast. Thank you. Yeah. So the Kelly Road show, we're at like almost episode 830 now. And it's just something that to me, it's like part of my legacy. It's something that I just want to leave behind. It's like writing a book, you know, I write books as well. And I do 20-minute segments. So it's short, powerful. It's a punch to your day. It's mindset. It's strategy. It's how to build a brand that stands out online with integrity. I love pouring my soul into it. I feel like it's a gift that I can give to people and I love so much to do the show

and how great conversations. Obviously, I was so lucky to have you on the show Heather, but it's just a place to come to get that kick in the pants that you need sometimes or the mindset left or maybe the strategy breakthrough that you've been looking for that you quite haven't quite figured out yet on your own. I'll tell you, I made a decision at the beginning of this

year to no longer listen to music in the car, and to only listen to podcasts and audible books, so I can constantly be learning, because I live in Miami and the traffic, well, you know, I mean, the traffic out here is clinically insane, right, and self-floor. So that one simple pivot in change accessing shows like yours and starting to expose myself to different ways of thinking and knowledge has Completely transformed my life this year for everyone listening you know that so find ways guys the next time you're in the car

If you're back you mean your house to put her podcast on give it a shot and start up leveling yourself You all have time within a day you just need you just need commit to it and make it a it will change your life. everybody find you. Yeah, well that is the number one place and it's like going shopp through pick a place to start binging and just go kelly

roach official on instagram hopefully instagram gives me my account back because right before this show they, they So Kelly Roach official on Instagram, hopefully Instagram gives me my account back because right before this show they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,

they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, Thank you so much for the work you're doing. Thank you so much for being a woman that supports other women and thank you for being here. Thanks so much. You don't stop and look around once in a while. You can miss it. I'm on this journey with me. I hope you're enjoying this episode so far.

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