Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan - You’re One Connection Away From Changing Your Life with Scott MacGregor

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

What if one conversation could change the entire direction of your life? In this episode, I bring back one of my favorite conversations with my dear friend, Scott MacGregor, founder of The Outlier Pro...ject, founder & CEO of SomethingNew LLC, and bestselling author. Scott and I share how a single LinkedIn message between strangers grew into years of friendship, collaboration, and life-changing opportunities, and how you can do the same. We talk about the mindset shift from transactional networking to building long-term relationships that open unexpected doors. Scott breaks down how to play chess, not checkers, in your career, nurture connections with genuine care, and position yourself as the person everyone wants in the room. Get ready to learn how to build friendships that fuel your goals and transform every ‘no’ into your next opportunity. In This Episode, You Will Learn Why one genuine relationship can change your entire career path. How to play chess instead of checkers in business and networking. The difference between transactional asks and transformational relationships. How to connect with high-impact people (and stay on their radar). How to spot genuine relationships vs. drive-by friendships. The mindset + tactical framework behind building a high-impact network. Resources + Links Join The Way Beyond Networking Masterclass HERE! Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/monahan Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at NetSuite.com/MONAHAN. Want to do more and spend less like Uber, 8x8, and Databricks Mosaic? Take a free test drive of OCI at oracle.com/MONAHAN. Get 10% off your first Mitopure order at timeline.com/CONFIDENCE. Get 15% off your first order when you use code CONFIDENCE15 at checkout at jennikayne.com. Call my digital clone at 201-897-2553!  Visit heathermonahan.com Sign up for my mailing list: heathermonahan.com/mailing-list/  Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com  If you haven't yet, get my first book Confidence Creator Follow Heather on Instagram & LinkedIn Scott on Instagram & LinkedIn

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People play checkers, and they don't play chess. They take one move. They're very transactional. It's like, am I going to win the game? And if it's yes, they're going to do it. If it's no, they won't do it. And relationships are like that. We could have probably never predicted all the things that we would do together and collaborate
Starting point is 00:00:21 on. You can't predict that stuff. You're literally one person away and really one conversation. away from changing your entire life. I'm on this journey with me. Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals. We'll overcome adversity and set you up for a better tomorrow.
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Starting point is 00:01:12 Let me know what you think. Hi, and welcome back. I'm so excited for you to be back here with us this week. Okay, it's so rare that I have someone on multiple times in the show. But today, you are going to be with one of my. and best friend Scott McGregor, who is also an incredible guest, and we are going to get into some major hacks that are going to grow your business for Q4 in 2026. So Scott, thank you so much for being here. Heather, you know it is an absolute honor. I waited forever to get on
Starting point is 00:01:50 the podcast that it was so awesome to be on the first times. It would be on twice. Like, this is epic. Okay, so let me give a little background on Scott because Scott has achieved so much and I just want to dial a little bit of it up for you. So he's founder of the Outlier Project, which if you've never checked it out before, I'm a part of the Outlier Project. It's incredible. It's the best business group that's out there. You've got to check it out. Founder of Outlier Magazine, just so cool. I love that you branched out from community to media outlets. It's amazing. Founder and CEO of something new, four times author of the standing. series, which is all for charity. And that just speaks volumes about Scott right there. He's the eight
Starting point is 00:02:34 consecutive American Business Awards winner for innovation. That's insane. Best of staffing winner. Net promoter score of 94.4%. The staffing industry average is 28%. Oh my gosh. Winner of Sales Executive of the Year American Business Awards. Founder magazine, 100 top founders to follow. contributor to Forbes magazine. It goes on and on. There's so many more advisory council, Harvard Business Review. I mean, Scott, what haven't you done at this point?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Those are all the things that no one will actually care about. I think the only thing people care about is impact. Like you and I, our friendship, like you've had a major impact on my life and hopefully I've been able to do the same for you. Like, that's what really matters. all the awards, the books, the, like, no one cares about the house I live in or the car I drive. People care about the impact I make.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So that to me, you know, it doesn't read well, I guess, in a bio, but that's really the thing that people care about. Let me ask you an interesting question that just came to mind that I think could help some listeners. Do you think having those accolades is necessary first in order to have impact or to make impact? not necessarily, but I think it definitely helps. You know, you can have an impact, maybe not at the scale that you could when you have some additional credibility, but we all can have impact. You know, we all can touch people's lives every single day. I'm very intentional about building relationships with people that have high influence and
Starting point is 00:04:22 high access because I know that makes my impact exponential, like at the end of the day, my ability to do great things in the world is somewhat predicated by the people that I know that I'm friends with. And when those people have a lot of access and influence, the bottom line is your ability to do amazing stuff is very, very different. All right. Well, let's run it back a little bit and let's talk about how you and I met initially, and I want to share this with everybody because we have a number of real stories I want to share today.
Starting point is 00:04:58 They're like pull the curtain back kind of moments so that you're going to get a glimpse into what really goes down behind scenes. So first of all, I remember I was looking for a way to help get somebody's child into college at NYU. And I just went to LinkedIn. Like everybody should always be going to LinkedIn. I went to LinkedIn and I typed in NYU.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And for some reason, you were an adjunct professor, or you were supporting the school somehow, your profile popped up. And there was something about your profile and your content that I thought, I'm reaching out to this guy and I sent you a DM. It wasn't my picture. It was my profile picture. But the irony is this. You responded, right? Here I am a random person that you've never met before. I'm reaching out asking you for help. And you immediately responded and immediately offered to get on a phone call with me to help me out.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Why would you do that for someone you don't even know? It goes back to impact. It's like if you can help somebody, if you have the ability to help somebody, you do it. You know, I've just worked really hard my whole life, you know, for a lot of things, for security for my family and for just, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:11 self-esteem and things like that. But a lot of the reasons why I've done a lot of the things that I do today, you know, the magazine and the community, are two good examples. Those are platforms that allow me to do things for other people. And I love, I love doing that. So when you reached out, it was a no-brainer to reach back out to you. And then, you know, I just, I remember that initial conversation. And it's like, okay, now go down the rabbit hole. Like, who's Heather Monaghan? And although that was before your first book, before
Starting point is 00:06:49 or your podcast. And I don't know how many follows you had, but you didn't have the hundreds of thousands that you have today. And I just, but I just remember that conversation. I was like, you were so different. You were somebody that it was like so easy to bet on. And why wouldn't you want to help somebody like that and become friends with somebody like that? So it was, that was an easy, easy decision. I just want to make sure everybody realize, though, Scott had, I don't even know if I had been fired yet. Maybe I had just been fired. Like there was, I had probably 3,000 followers on social media.
Starting point is 00:07:27 There was no big brand presence or big win that Heather Monaghan's reaching out too. Can't wait. I'll get on her show or maybe she'll mention me in her book or, you know, there was none of that. So you showed up and supported somebody who you didn't necessarily have any idea that you would ever gain anything from. And that's really the core, I feel like, of who you are. So, all right. So that happens.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Cut to, no, I was fired because I was working on my book. Now I remember. And cut to, we start talking about you were working on your first book, ironically, or to me, I believe this is like divine intervention. And we were both working on book launches at the same exact time. And you ended up inviting me to New York to be a part of your book launch, which is really when we became friends in real life and became team us. But that was, I mean, again, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:08:18 what to expect out of anybody. Here you were a person that just supported and helped me that didn't know me. And I wanted to be able to get the chance to support and help you. However, the irony is, I go to your event. You have so many celebrities there. You have so many people supporting you there. And it became clear real quick that you were the right person to know. You were the connector that would put people together. And it was so apparent walking into your event that night. It was like something I had never seen before. Well, thank you for that. I mean, I love connecting the dots. Like, I think connecting good people with good people
Starting point is 00:08:55 and helping people to achieve the things that are important to them is so much fun. So when you do it right, it's great. Like, when you make introductions that are disproportionate, like they're not, they're beneficial to one person, but not to another. You know, those are things I try very hard to never, ever do. So hopefully, you know, whether it's, it's in those rooms or probably what got people in that room that night was, you know, just a whole lot of trying to help people get connected with people that could help them
Starting point is 00:09:32 achieve whatever their hope or dream was. Well, one of the ways I like to share how your gift, your connection ability, your talent that you really refined and put into a framework that works for you constantly, but truly is based in helping others, is I remember one day after we had been friends for a few years, I said to you, hey, I launched the podcast. And I said, hey, I'd really like to get Jesse Isler on the show. I know that I've seen him in your circle. And you said, Heather, he's going to be really tough to get to. However, I think I could introduce you to his business partner and maybe that connection could take you somewhere. And that's exactly what you immediately did. And to, you know, back to your framework of the power of
Starting point is 00:10:18 connection and how to really take care of people and champion people and work together, Mark and I started speaking. That turned into a friendship. Jesse was not available at the time. I'll never forget. I was out in L.A. I was due. I don't remember what I was doing. My podcast was based in L.A. back then in 2019. And I remember he told me no. He said he's not going to be able to do it. He's so over committed. He just launched this new 20, 29 thing. He's like, Heather, he just can. I'm saying no to everything right now for him. But in the future, if that changes, you know, let's talk. Until then, let's talk about what we're doing. You know, maybe we could get you involved somehow. So he and I kept talking about different events that they had, you know, when I might
Starting point is 00:10:59 be in Atlanta, that they had things going on in Atlanta. So we stayed in touch and kept in communication. And then wouldn't you know one random day, he said to me, hey, he, he, He just said that he wants to get on a couple of podcasts because he wants to promote some new initiative that he had. Why don't we make your podcast one of them? It was so good. So, so good. You know, it's like one thing leads to another and it's everything is connected.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And that, you know, turned into the incredible interview you did in Boston with Sarah and Jesse. And that was fun to kind of play a little bit of a role. in helping to make that happen. Okay, no, pause because you're like glazing over something that cannot be glazed over. Meet a different guest each week. Why is taking mitopure important to you?
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Starting point is 00:15:06 Exclusions apply. I asked you to try to find your passion. So I interviewed Jesse for my show. During the interview, his internet went out. Do you remember this? Yes, billionaires sometimes lose their internet too. Ironical. And so all of a sudden, my phone starts ringing.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I pick up and it's Jesse Itzler and he says, my assistant gave me your number. I'm really embarrassed to say, power went out. What can we do, Heather? I said, I can jump on a plane and come to Atlanta and come to wherever you are in interview. So he had me to their home, which was so generous of him. I went to their house, interviewed him with this great interview. I left, everything went well. I sent him a thank you. He said he liked my microphone, so I sent him the exact same one so he could have one for his house and followed back up with you, was so grateful. Cut to one day, you're speaking to someone in Boston that was having an event in Boston, and they're talking about they wanted somebody to interview Sarah and Jesse live on
Starting point is 00:16:06 stage. And you said, how about Heather Montingham? She already knows Jesse. And you took that initiative on my behalf for me. Yeah. So it was hypergrowth. So a friend of mine, David to cancel is the CEO of a company called Drift, which is now a unicorn billion-dollar company. And now I think he's the chairman of the board. But he was putting on hypergrowth. And I was like, oh, man, I knew Jesse was speaking there. And so I don't know if I told you beforehand or I told you after, but I called David. I call him D.C.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And I go, D.C., man, you got, you have to have Heather. And so I told them a little bit about you and then, you know, the rest, as they say, is history. Well, for everyone listening right now, this is what I want you to know, this is the power of getting to that one person, right? Had I never met Scott, I would have never gone to Jesse Itzler. I had never gotten to Jesse Itzler. I was never going to end up interviewing Sarah Blakely live on stage in front of thousands of people. Those moments are business changing, career changing, brand changing, life changing moments. for me 100%, but it all started with that one person of impact, which is you at the center
Starting point is 00:17:24 of all of this. And I think too often people don't think about that. They think about stepping back where they want to go and this is what they want to achieve. Instead of thinking, what one connection am I possibly away from unlocking these opportunities and a plethora of others? I could not even fathom, which is exactly what's happened as a result from our friendship. How often And have you seen things like that in your own life? I think people play checkers and they don't play chess. What I mean by that is they take one move. They're very transactional.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It's like, how is this move going to, am I going to win the game? And if it's yes, they're going to do it. If it's no, they won't do it. And I like to think I'm always playing chess. I'm thinking multiple moves ahead. and you know relationships are like that like our relationship we could have probably never predicted all the things that we would do together and collaborate on you can't predict that stuff but if you are like-hearted and you're with really good interesting smart people
Starting point is 00:18:42 like lean into those relationships, build those friendships because those are the friendships that are going to spawn other friendships. And you have no idea. I think, you know, most of the people that I meet, I just, if I figure out that they're interesting, that they're smart, I'm going to pour into them. I don't try to figure out where it's going to go. I think trying to project that is a waste of time. I just know that I've always wound up in these spots. It's either a conversation or I'm in a room or something's happened for me and I'm like, how the hell did I get here? And when I reverse engineer it, it's not a straight line. It's a crazy circuitous path that took me there, that there would be no way to predict that going forward. But it's
Starting point is 00:19:39 in retrospect, you're like, my God, I'm so glad that I formed this friendship with, you know, whoever, because all these things, this crazy chain of events that happens in our lives all the time would have never happened if it weren't for, you know, that really key relationship. And you never know who that's going to be or when it's going to happen. But, you know, that's the magic is you're one person away. I always think from changing your life forever. And I'm not being dramatic. I mean, I think you're literally one person away and really one conversation away from changing your entire life.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Play chess when everyone else is playing checkers. It's so well said. And it was so funny. and this is totally behind the scenes and has not materialized yet, but I'm going to share it because I think it's important for everybody to understand
Starting point is 00:20:41 the power of connection and the power of friendships and true relationships. I had a very good friend, yet again, another friend, another male friend of mine that I've met through LinkedIn,
Starting point is 00:20:53 through business in the past decade, who's just been a supporter of mine, another great human, reaches out to me and sends me this note and says, Heather, look at this promo, Patrick, that David is running right now.
Starting point is 00:21:04 he's looking for a female host, this is you. And so he sends me this promo, which I would have never seen otherwise. So again, someone looking out for me, you know, with not wanting anything in return,
Starting point is 00:21:15 I look at the promo and I'm, oh my gosh, this is me. So I submit myself. I talk to a few people. They're like, we're going on. We're submitting you.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And crickets, nothing. And so I'm thinking, this is weird. So I, he follows me on Instagram. So I DM him on Instagram. Crickets, nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So I'm thinking in the back of my mind for a week. How do I get to him? I need to get to. So I inevitably call you and say, I don't know what to do. I need to get to this guy. And he is tough to get to. I'm really struggling to figure it out. And of course, you would have a solution for me, Scott. Yet you're the one that can see things that I don't even see. Well, that's the fun part. It's like if you really care about people and obviously I care about you and I care about our friendship, it's fun. It's like a game. It's like, oh my God, this is important to my friend Heather. like, how can we solve this problem?
Starting point is 00:22:08 And that gets my brain going and it's fun. So, you know, that was me last night, like going down all these different rabbit holes and then try to figure out, like, what could we do? And then stumbled upon some stuff that I'm like, oh, wait a second, there's some connective tissue here that this could potentially lead to the answer. Will it? I have no idea. But it's fun trying to figure that stuff out. And I guess, you know, you need new friends if you don't get lit up by that stuff. If it feels like a homework assignment as opposed to like, no, I want to do this. Like I shared with you earlier, there's been portions of the day today where I'm like going down all these little rabbit holes trying to figure out how to make this happen. and, you know, some of them turn into, I can figure out already that they, they're going to turn into nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And then there's a few that I'm like, okay, nope, this could turn into something. So it's just, it's fun. If you don't want to help your friends out, you need a different friend group. It's so, you need to start getting into the right circles that are out there. And it's so true. So one of the things that Scott found for me, which was so helpful, was he reached back out and he said, you know that Patrick Bet David was on School of Hard Knocks
Starting point is 00:23:36 with your friend James Heather and once you said that I said okay you nailed it I know that I can reach out to James and ask for a favor how do I know that because I did the interview with James
Starting point is 00:23:49 and then James came to me and said well you do me a favor and come in and teach one of the classes for my community it would mean the world to me can you do it at 8 o'clock at night on like a Thursday night you know it was a pain and I'm like
Starting point is 00:24:02 Of course I'm happy to support you. So when you lean in the same way, Scott leaned into helping me, when this young guy raised his hand and said, hey, can you help me? Yeah, of course I will. Then you suddenly have a friendship that is mutually beneficial. You don't ever worry about anything. I had just sent James a speaking engagement the week before from an agent that came to me wanting me to speak about something.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I ended up connecting James. I said, this is better fit for James. And when I found out James was going to be in Saudi Arabia and I was going to be in Saudi Arabia, I told him to come to my event so I could introduce him to the event promoter so that he could get booked for the event the following year. And I did that. Right. So it's like always to your point thinking about how else could I better connect support or help this person or is there someone else in my network that would benefit from being connected to these people and then there could be some mutual wins. And when you start living like that and like you said, putting those pieces together and playing chess, instead of checkers, it's no big deal to send someone a text and say, hey, I'd love to get a hold of Patrick Bet David. I know that you've had him on the show. Do you know a way to connect me to him or anyone on his team? Here's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I never look back and I'll never feel bad. We don't know what the outcome is yet. Of course, I have a feeling it's all going to go well and all work out in the end. But we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. But it just might open another door to another friendship, to another opportunity that we have no idea even exists yet. I, you know, I think part of it, too, is don't be lazy.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You know, it's easy to just say, no, you know, I could have responded, and we all can respond, you know, in this way, just say, hey, I don't know him. And, you know, and then, like, I'm off the hook and all that. But that's just lazy. Like, there are six degrees of separation all over the place. So there's, you know, probably a hundred. different avenues to get that one thing done. And there's always, you know, multiple solutions to any problem. It's just a matter of whether you're going to put some of your brain power into it or you're just going to hit the easy button and say, you know, no, sorry I can't help you. It's so true. Like,
Starting point is 00:26:19 put the extra effort in, just show up and try a little bit and lean in with an open heart and good attitude and you never know what can happen and that doesn't mean you know so often i'm sure you get this people sending dm hey can i meet this person hey can i meet this person that you know hey can i get on the you know can i be featured in your next book what's the difference in your opinion from someone who's being strategic and asking for different things versus someone who's truly coming into your life that you're saying you know what this is someone i'm going to embrace and start a friendship in a relationship with i had a different thought. I'll answer that question in a second. I think to our point before, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:03 people sometimes are too focused on outcomes and they forget that effort means something. So, like, you and I have talked, I don't know, for a long time, we haven't talked about it recently, but we've talked about Lewis Howes. And we're not like, super close, but he knows me. I know him. And, you know, I have pinged him consistently over the years on your behalf. And I think you've appreciated the effort. It hasn't turned into the outcome, but I'm not that worried about the outcome. I think people, I appreciate the effort. Like, you've done so many amazing things for me I appreciate the effort the outcome to me is you know that's out of your control but the effort is in your control so I think people will
Starting point is 00:28:06 appreciate that when you show up for them it doesn't always have to turn into you know a book speaking engagement or this incredible connection that you know creates a new business opportunity for somebody, it goes back to just put in the work, make the effort. But, you know, it's interesting, Spite, and I forgot to mention this to you, and because you've laid those seeds, right, like you're seeding people like a Lewis house. Hey, I want you to meet my friend, Heather Monagana. You know, I want to put her on your radar, you know, over years, that's seeding, right? Like, we're planting these seeds with this person.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And then wouldn't you know someone that I know from Dean Graziosi world reached out to me and said, hey, Lewis has, you know, these different things going on. What do you think about me, you know, throwing your name out there? So those are the moments when you start, when someone starts getting messages about the same person from different people from totally different circles, that's really powerful. So again, back to what you're so good at. When you nurture those relationships, I never thought this person was going to have me as someone they wanted to nominate for, you know, to connect to Lewis House.
Starting point is 00:29:16 But because you had already been seating him, he's already knows, oh, I know, how their modding hand is. So suddenly it's not a cold call anymore. Now it's a warm connection. And the next thing someone's considering you. So those things can... So in the military, they call it soften the beach head. And to use a sports analogy, when you see a coach on the sideline going crazy on an official, they're not thinking that the official is going to change that call that they just made. What they're doing is they're softening the beachhead, knowing that the next call or future calls will be impacted by that effort.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So to your point, like, if you are softening that beachhead or planting those seeds, you know, somebody else may be the person who germinates that seed, but, you know, you can help make those things happen just by kind of, you know, continuing to put the effort in. If you're like me, trying to find the right candidate is not very easy these days, sorting through resumes, trying to get in touch with them and follow up, finding the right one to begin with seems to be the biggest challenge. Well, the future of hiring looks much brighter because ZipRecruiter's latest tools and features help speed up finding the right people for your roles. So you save valuable time. And now you can try ZipRecruiter for free at
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Starting point is 00:32:50 Sign up for $1 per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com slash Monaghan. Go to Shopify.com slash Monaghan. I ask you to try to find your passion. Yet again, this is a little. why it's so important that you have various relationships and not just one friend group, but these different industries, different groups of people, because you never know how those dots will come and connect back together. Because in this instance, it definitely needed both of those. Okay, the question that I asked you, how do you know when someone is just
Starting point is 00:33:29 out for themselves? And it's not worth you, you know, because I get a lot of DMs, you get a lot a DMs from people we don't know asking for things all the time. How do you differentiate or know which ones are the ones to pour into and which ones are the ones to say, you know what, this just, I don't have the bandwidth to this. I have pretty good spidey sense at this point. And also, you know, most people can't help themselves. So they go from, you know, what seems innocuous and congenial to like they go for the kill, like in two. seconds, you know? So they kind of like warmed you up maybe a little bit, and then they just, you know, they try to go from like first to home in one stride. And that typically doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:34:20 You know, I just had a situation with somebody that is a very, very prominent, very famous chef. And, you know, I'd love to do something collaborative with her in the future. and I've had multiple interactions and just spent like a weekend up at her restaurant in Maine. And I didn't say one word, nothing about, you know, what I would like to hopefully happen in the future. Because the timing just doesn't seem right. And I'm still kind of planting the seeds and building a friendship because I'm more interested in what can happen long term than what can happen in. the short term. And I think that's another thing to consider is that if you shoot your shot, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But I think that friendship is probably
Starting point is 00:35:18 going to be transactional. It's like a drive-by friendship. So you may get the person on your podcast, but you may not get anything beyond that. And most of the time, not all the time, Most of the time, that thing that you want, the person to write the blur for your book, the person to be on your podcast, whatever it is, is not as substantial as a long-term friendship of that person. So you have to decide if I shoot my shot and that's all it is, would I rather have that or would I rather benefit from a decade to decade long true friendship and relationship with this person? Sometimes the answer is going to be yes, in which case go for it, shoot your shot.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But I would say for me, 90-something percent of the time, I would rather nurture the relationship because whether it's something in the Outlier Project, whether it's something with Outlier Magazine, whatever the case may be, that's not as important as a long-term friendship. So you brought up the word collaboration, which I love, and you and I have done a number of collaborations in the past, whether it be on books, on events, on community, right?
Starting point is 00:36:50 So we've done so many different things, and I'm really excited about our, most recent collab, which we are going to share with you right now. But before we get into that, I want to talk a little bit about how you, people aren't teaching what you do in school, right? No one's learning this stuff. No one taught me, I was a psych major in college and they weren't teaching this stuff. And to me, community and how you build community, relationship and how you build relationship, networking in a true sense of creating a network, a spidey web network, not, you know, grab your business card and I'll ask you for something that takes you nowhere.
Starting point is 00:37:28 How did you start to realizing that this was something that you had that was a unique skill, that you could actually transfer and teach people? And now you're teaching it to thousands of people. I've been doing it for myself for decades. And, you know, I was just doing it because I really enjoy and I get so much fulfillment from building these unique friendships in all kinds of different areas. Like, it could be sports, business, military, entertainment. Like, I just love building friendships with really interesting people.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So I had developed, I never even thought of it as like a methodology or a system or anything like that, but I had definitely figured out exactly how to have the right mindset, but then also deploy the right tactical and practical steps to make these things happen. And I've been doing them. And I think people started to notice the success. They noticed it through the four books in Standing O. They noticed it in all the incredible legends that we bring on to the Alleyer Project.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Then the magazine comes out and people are like, how in the world. do you get all these people to do this stuff? And, you know, I realized that this thing that I had built for myself, which is completely transformed my life, that I could share this with other people. And that's been really, really fulfilling to teach kind of the mindset and then the tactical practical strategies to build these high,
Starting point is 00:39:18 high access relationships. It's an absolute game changer. There is not one book that has ever been written on it. Nobody knows how to do it. I think people know how to build relationships. People know something about networking. This is not networking 101. This is how to build relationships that will literally transform your life. And no one's teaching that. But I've done it for myself. those are the best things, things that you actually done yourself. It's how I started my company something new. I had built some really unique things in talent strategy, and I realized that the result was it had built a company from five people to 300,
Starting point is 00:40:09 and we had double-digit growth every single year for 17 straight years, and I'm like, wait a second, I could teach other companies how to do the same thing. So I'm excited about it. And I, I mean, to collaborate with you on this is like a pinch me moment dream come true. I can't wait. No, me too. I'm so excited because I know the impact we're going to have on people's lives. First, starting with, you know, the reviews that you've had from, you've done these classes a number of times, they are blowing me away.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I mean, literally people are attesting to the fact that it has changed their life. It has changed their business from what they learned and then deployed. as a result of, and people are getting immediate results. Can you share one of those examples with us? Yeah, and I know that Kathy had sent you, I think it was like 40 pages of people saying, like, oh, my goodness, like this has just transformed. People are very quickly understanding that this is not rocket science.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Anybody can do it, but nobody truly has a codified strategy of how to do it. So once you have that, then you can start deploying it immediately. And we've seen people get the client of their dreams or build their personal advisory board stacked with people that can help them in every area and every aspect of their life. these are transformational events these aren't like okay i move the needle like one degree these are like flip the script and just change everything forever and i think that's pretty rare to be honest
Starting point is 00:42:02 and it's exciting it goes back to what we started with it's impact like if i can make impact and the bigger the better and i know through our collaboration we're going to be able to, you know, teach a whole bunch of people how to do this and transform so many lives. well what thing we both know it's not what you know it's who you know and the way to get to who you know is to join our class because i will tell you this collaborative effort between scott and i between the framework that he has and strategy that he has in place and my real-time examples we are going to hit you we're going to have open Q&A we are going to rock your world and we're going to challenge you to go bigger to identify who is that one person that if you did get to them it would change your Q4 it would change your 2026 and And then we're going to go ahead and teach you how to build that plan to get to them and start changing your life, changing your business. So you can have conversations like this years later with someone who's a true friend who has brought so many opportunities to you and that you brought so many opportunities to you. And we're doing it at a discounted price right now. But we have limited seats.
Starting point is 00:43:14 We cannot help everybody. And so often people want to work with Scott or I and can't afford the higher ticket events that we do, this is the time to be. get in, this is going to be the lowest price that you can work with us. We are starting Monday, October 27th, which is almost here. So get a seat while you can. This is the class that is going to change your business, change your life, and we are challenging you to identify who is that one person that if you got to, for me, that's by Scott McGregor, right? Who's that one person? And today it's Patrick Red David, so let's get to him next. Who is that one person that if you get to that person, it's going to change everything for you for Q4 and beyond
Starting point is 00:43:52 identify that person, click the link in the show notes below, sign up now while the discount is live. It is live right now. Join us in class, October 27, and you will be the one writing that review of how this changed your life. Who doesn't want a bigger, 2026? Who doesn't want a stronger end to the year that it started? This is the one thing that changes everything. What am I leaving out, Scott? There's no scarcity, you know, mentality here in terms of like a sales tactic, like we're keeping, we are keeping it small by design. We want to be impactful. It's going to be very interactive.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And we're going to have a lot of time for Q&A. And you just simply can't do that if the group gets too big. So, you know, unfortunately, both Heather and I have substantial time constraints. So I don't know if this is a one and done. I hope it's not, but it certainly could be. But, you know, we want to make an impact. and I'm excited for the people that sign up. So I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So the site I will have in the show notes below. It is the outlier project. Live slash way dash beyond dash networking. That link will be in the show notes below. Go check it out. See what people are saying. The reviews will blow you away. You are one person away from changing your year, your life,
Starting point is 00:45:18 and you have no idea where that will lead you. Scott and I are just living examples of it right now showing you we're pulling the curtain back showing you in real time we're sharing his framework which is proven and he has taught to literally a thousand people with massive success 40 pages of reviews and this is a five star class I am so excited to go through it with you I'm so excited for you to identify that one person Scott I think you call who's your Oprah I do so it's going to be more than one we're going to have 20 that we're going to talk about how to strategically target and enhance those relationships.
Starting point is 00:45:55 We'll spend the first two sessions of the master class on mindset because that's critically important. And then the last two on the tactical practical, like, what do I actually do? So when I wake up in the morning, like, what do I do? And that's the disconnect. What happens too often is that people have dreams. I want to be an entrepreneur, I want to write a book, I want to start a podcast, I want to get in better shape. And guess what? It never happens. And the reason why it doesn't happen is they don't
Starting point is 00:46:31 have the recipe, they don't have the directions, they don't have the guidebook of how to do it at a tactical, practical, granular level. That's what we're going to give people is not just theory at 30,000 feet, we're going to give them exactly what to do. Literally, exactly, what do I do? What have I been doing for the last two decades every single day that's produced the results that have created the Outlier Project, Outlier Magazine, friendships with people like Heather, et cetera. That's what's exciting. This isn't just theory. This is how do you actually get it done. Because dreams without reality, that just means that your dream's going to die on the one yard line. And there's nothing worse than the regret of I wanted to do this.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And I never actually figured out the tactical, practical, practical things that I needed to do to get it done. The time is now. It's the end of the year. It's now our never jump in. We do not know if we're going to do this again. So jump into this class now. Let's change. the rest of your year. Let's change your next year. And let's change your life. Because once you learn these strategies in the master class, it's a game changer. It's not what you know. It's who you know. And this class is going to teach you how to get to that one person or 20, like Scott is saying, but I'm focused on the one. When you can get to that one person that changes everything, you are one person away from your best life. Let us show you how you're going to see all the reviews.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Click the link in a show notes below. And we will see you in class, October 27. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Heather. See you guys soon.

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