CreepCast - 1999 | Creep Cast

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

A troubled blogger recollects his childhood terror and a mysterious show with haunting implications, Caledon Local 21 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to another episode of Creepcast. Today we are talking about 1999, the creepypasta. Also, it's known as either Caledon Local 21 or Mr. Bear Seller. Yes, yes. Right? Yeah. So, 1999, one of the classic internet creepypastas, it's gone on to inspire a lot of

other internet horror stories and things like that, as I'm sure you'll pick up on as you read through it. But this is one of the OGs. If I remember right, the first post was made in 2009, and it was continued to be updated until 2011. Although it had its big resurgence around like 2013, 2014 when a bunch of horror YouTubers started to make, like, audio videos about it. People like Mr. Creepie Pasta, Creeps Mix Pasta, and stuff like that. So 1999 has definitely like inserted itself into the, the quote unquote, important early creepy pasta works.

Yeah, that cultural zeitgeist of just like a pivotal early internet horror stories. Yeah. Which 2009 is very early. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the earliest ones. I remember this being one of the first ones I heard about when I started getting into it myself. And there's good reason. There's good reason. It's a very interesting story that I, of course, am not familiar with at all. Yeah. I want as is per usual. Actually, I feel like it has to be a continuous theme here. I have never heard of this. I don't know what this is. So once again, going in blind. If anything, this is just this is all it is. It's like basically internet horror history. and then a random man off the street is what this podcast has become.

Hey, well, you get to enjoy all of it for the first time. Now, I will say with this episode, I'm actually not familiar with 1999. So this will be, uh, this, yeah, this will be, uh, an interesting episode for me, I think. Um, so I'm definitely excited to, uh, see how this one goes. So I'm interested as well. I'm right there with you. I'm stoked. Well, without further ado, let's get into it.

which it starts off by saying, in quotes, the year is 1999. Let's go. I'm so excited. Also, to everyone who is here, remember to keep doing the thing you're doing on audio platforms because more people keep finding us over there, and that's pretty cool. So if you want to keep that up, thanks. If not, well, I don't care. I support, I just like when people listen to us regardless,

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like you know sometimes I'll be talking in Hunter about the show and stuff and Hunter's like I just can't stand you know these people who watch our videos and talk about us and make edits of us and stuff I just wish I could grab their tinder little necks and just break them and it just be over and I'm like no these people

they're important to me and you all really are so I appreciate that it's true and I want to say to all of the which I want to clarify and say I did not say any of that I said it's true you heard of he said it he said it no no no no no no no no no all of the fan edits and stuff have been really really funny and we want to say I I check out the Reddit and stuff

and see all of the memes going on there and all the different kinds of edits too and it's really really really cool to see so I look forward to all of them so please keep making them and making my belly jiggle with laughter. Yes, and I'm not going to add the part

about making his belly jiggle because that feels weird, but keep making me laugh in a normal way. 1999, too, this is peak limp biscuit, so at some point there is some kind of limp biscuit reference, I'm going to be very, very excited. I will say, this has

nothing to do with 1999, but one time I was reading, I think I read it on, no, for a video. It was this online ARG called the Hypnagogic Archives. And there's a part where characters in whatever year Smashmouth Astro Lounge came out. So it's whatever, the characters in whatever year that is. And he's like, hmm, reminds me of the hit song, All Star by Smash Mouth way, midway through the story. So I'm sure we'll have a moment like that in this story. Don't yeah yeah it's gonna be it's like the guy wrote it and he was like this is a timeless reference

this will never ever age forever it certainly won't wind up in a popular dream works film and ruin its reputation forever yes yes yes okay all right let's get into it i'm so ready let's begin i am too man the year is 1999 that sentence brings me back to my senior kindergarten class when I was five years old, where we used to read out the date on the blackboard every single day. The year 1999 exists as a stain in my mind. However, as a memory that will not go away no matter how I try to forget it. 1999 marked the year I lost my first tooth, my first time on a plane, and unfortunately, the early loss of my childhood innocence. The one memory that refused to be wiped, It all started with that new or old TV.

At the time, Pokemon was the latest fad to hit the school. Pokemon cards, games, stickers, and the most popular, the TV show. So, of course, every time I came home from school, I would stay glued to the TV until Pokemon came on at 5. The only problem was that my dad watched the news at 5.30, and Pokemon episodes were back-to-back, which meant I had to miss an episode every day, something I whined on and on about. My dad got tired of hearing me complain every day. That must be why he went and bought another TV. My dad put the TV he bought in my room.

Unfortunately, it was just an old, small boob tube, with rabbit ears even. It also only had 20 channels available, not including the channel Pokemon was on. I recall I didn't care, though. I was just thrilled I had my own TV in my room. After surfing through the channels, I came to the conclusion that only channel two TV. Vio Kids, was worth watching, so I watched that for a while. It wasn't for another few months until I discovered Channel 21. One day, in April, I was flipping through the channels, trying to see if Pokemon was on.

I pressed Channel 21 into the remote, hoping there were more channels. And to my delight, there was. My dad was surprised, too, but he let me watch it because it seemed to have kids' programs on. The channel was called Caledon Local 21. And later, I found out it was indeed broadcasted from the town of Caledon, Ontario, a town very close to my city. The shows I saw on Caledon Local 21 looked poorly made, and I never understood what was going on in them half the time. However, as I grew up, every time I thought of that channel, I realized more and more how messed up the shows were, and I had to ask myself, oh, this is a quote. Do you want to do the quotes?

I want to take it from you. What the fuck was I watching? Thank you. There's not a ton of quotes in this story, so I don't want to rob you of that moment. Yeah, I appreciate it. And then after that, we get into our first show. But so far, what do you think of it? How are you feeling?

I mean, it feels similar to that channel zero thing kind of about like some kind of show or some kind of like archetype where children are watching a, you know, some kind of various programs and it's a lot more fucked up. up than what they remembered or even like as kids it might have messed with them it's kind of the direction i'm going but i'm not sure it reminds me like premise wise it reminds me a lot of a candle cove yeah can't there you go candle cove yep because that was the whole thing was that was like the pirate one right yes yeah the the whole thing is that all these kids remember a show but then their parents are like oh no whenever you were staring at the tv it was just static

like the end twist is that the television was like transmitting the signal straight to them that one's written by chris straub and he's like a whole he's like one of the mount rushmore heads of early internet whore so like that i think he's incorporated it into some of his other writings and stuff like that but yeah the core premise of the original candle cove story reminds me a lot of 1999 i even just like the theme of like coming home from school and wanting to to watch something obviously we haven't gotten into it but i like the idea of like it's a very intimate moment or like that even i remember that coming home and it's like you're kind of like ritual that you do and like the relationship between you and these shows is something

where it's like you know therapeutic cathartic all kinds of different uh feelings and then to kind of put that twist it's just fun yeah i always i always just like that but i'm i'm stoked i agree all right so let's get into the first one april 1999 mr bear seller episode 12 very sketchy name if you were to look at it nowadays. The show featured a guy wearing a bare mascot costume who would get a new visitor into his cellar every day.

Oh, God. God. Good Lord. Oh, no, not the next abbreviations. Here we go, Hunter. Are you ready? I guess so, dude. Good Lord.

It was always a kid Always a kid It was always a kid So here we go The train The Barasca train is in station Once again It was always a kid

The show was filmed with a camcorder And not a very good one either The police asked me a lot of questions about this show This episode started with Mr. Bear Sitting at a table playing checkers by himself He sat there playing for a bit until there was a knock on the door. The camera was then looking up the stairs at the door, where there was another knock. Mr. Bear climbed the stairs and opened the door to reveal two young children.

One was a boy about my age, and the other was a girl who looked about eight. Mr. Bear danced into light and then started talking to the kids. I couldn't hear any of them that well. I remember Mr. Bear then led the kids into the cellar, which was quite dark, only lit by a small oil lamp on the table I can't really remember that much more except him singing a song which I couldn't hear too well either probably because of the large bear mask

the episode ended with them playing hide-and-seek with the kids hiding in a closet and Mr. Bear counting Oh my lord How you feel? Oh my lord! Okay, I'm not gonna lie that kind of I was like I got like a bad taste my mouth I felt a little something crawl up my spine there.

You know what I immediately made me think of aesthetically was like the Poughkeepsie tapes. Yes, yeah, yeah, the Poughkeepsie tapes. It's like the very infamous one where it's like the, it's like the guy crawling down the steps in the basement and stuff, all that kind of stuff. Absolutely. Also, how cryptically vague everything is. Also, it's like I, like recalling these things, it feels like it's like recalling a dream or something. It's just, ugh. We don't know the intent.

intentions yet you know what I mean and it makes it so much worse that's one of the most effective parts about the story to me is that like it's all relayed through just what the kids saw so all of the intentions and things like that you're kind of left to ponder with yourself you know yeah because there's something so menacing about that ending too that they were playing hide and go seek and the kids were hiding in the closet with mr. bear counting um it's it's it's like what happens you know after the cameras go off right if that's where the episode ended yeah well i mean one thing that caught me was that was one sentence there which is just the police asked me a lot of questions about this show just that one little thing right there of like introducing a whole other story element of like

okay obviously there's some kind of investigation going and like other people must have heard about this thing you know what i mean like it adds like a whole new layer of uh of of intrigue or just like another layer of depth to the story which I think is just really cool but also too just the I mean you know Mr. Bear you know that obviously the child aesthetic mixed with horror

is as old as time itself but still just the idea of an adult what I'm assuming is an adult in a bear suit doing this is just fucking mortifying yeah I should also mention for you to suffer even more there's been a bunch of people

on YouTube in the year since it's got popular who have made videos of all of this happening so it's like an actual camcorder footage of a guy in a bear suit like running around with kids and stuff like that and it's exactly as awful

as you can imagine oh well that kind of like leads perfectly into the we just somebody sent Isaiah or Windagon the Ted the caver the Ted's Caving Journal thing yes yeah yeah so we just wanted to give him a shout out too and we'll

put his link into his channel in the videos but it is unbelievable so good yeah so this dude i haven't watched it yet because i'm going to watch it on stream i'm saving myself for the stream audience uh but this guy showed up in one of my live streams and said hey i heard your all's episode you did over on uh popa meat about ted the caver and i decided to make it into a series and the series looks fantastic um so yeah really cool that he did that we'll throw it down in the description but yeah love seeing creativity like that yeah All right. Well, I mean, let's keep moving on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep rocking with it.

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the ad thank you so much to aura for sponsoring the show it really does mean the most hope you all check them out link is in the description and we are back to the episode may 1999 soup and spoon i don't think this was even a show i think it was more of a special movie thing all i know is i stopped watching caledon local 21 for a while because i thought this show was too stupid especially since Pokemon now came on at 4.30 and 5. I don't remember much of this, but it showed a can of soup and a spoon both attached to strings, swinging back and forth, as if someone was holding them and dangling them in front of the camera. Interestingly enough, the show was shot in a basement, which looked just like the one used in Mr. Bear's cellar. Like I said, I can't remember much. The only thing I can't remember

clearly was the end. The entire thing was only half an hour, and just included stuff I found stupid, such as the spoon chasing the soup around, trying to eat him, the endings showed a table, and about seven kids sitting around it, each with a bowl of soup in front of them. They were sitting and looking at the camera, but with confused, almost fried in faces. The cameraman then yelled at the can of soup in front of the kids and said, spoons ready and then it just stopped

interesting well it's definitely setting up a theme here of obviously some kind of child abduction thing but obviously like this weird 30 minute like puppet show is almost how I would describe that right with like the spoon and the soup a weird puppet show

I do like the I do like the line I thought the show was too stupid especially since Pokemon now came on at 430 and 5 you know like a kid just looking at this he's like what the hell is this? What the this is dumb?

He goes to liverroom and watches Ash a 12 year old boy like tackle Cyther or something like that he's like this is awesome now this is why I need to be watching I think it's pretty it works for me because a lot of the times

you know Oh totally With a with a story you're trying to find ways to hide information from the characters and have it just being a kid who like wasn't interested because he didn't realize

how off putting what he was looking at was and said he just wanted to watch Pokemon so that makes sense why he only saw some of it one time right it works it works for the story it does and I mean I think the entire like one thing that's been really effective so far

is just these really strong like last three or four sentences of each of these descriptions like the ending showed a table and about seven kids sitting around each with a bowl of soup in front of them just it's so simple but just so like unsettling

so just eerily unsettling it's what it's one of the like i don't know how much of it was intentional on the author's part i think a lot of it but sometimes i feel like even the the quick delivery of the sentences like how immediate they are like it's very factual from the kid's point of view goes to better serve the idea it's a kid who's not really processing what he was looking at because like if you or i found a local television show that was like in a basement with children it would immediately be like red alert But the kid just kind of watched it and was bored by it, which is, it's so menacing. Well, I mean, that's what I'm even thinking about if I was a kid.

I'd probably doing the exact same thing. Yeah. I mean, I'd be looking at like my Dragon Ball Z DVD thing and being like, why the fuck am I watching this stupid shit? I'd be throwing this in my PS2 and just like live in Lovita Loca. You know what I mean? Like, but that's just like the mind that, that's just like the interesting thing of like the mind of a child where it's just like you don't have those like, those like actual

being able to process like shit that you're seeing it's just like all surface levels so you're just like well this is boring but you don't understand like how even to the extent too to where it's like why would you ever bring it up

to your parents you know what I mean oh that shows stupid you know well why why would you tell an adult a puppet show yeah exactly exactly I also think

to me that's one of the most frightening concepts you can do in horror not just like involving kids but specifically involving like your memories around childhood like did those things that happened to you actually happen the way you think you did or are you just

misremembering well yeah i mean that that that messes with me a lot yeah and i think the idea that it's like you can't even trust yourself in your own narrative i think is extremely disturbing extremely disturbing it's like the especially like dementia like me getting dementia when i'm older which i know it's going to happen and i'm very bummed about it i just i can feel it i i think like it's the idea that's like you can't even remember or you like you're losing track of your own self you can't even trust yourself is so frightening. Yeah, yeah. It looks interesting here too,

because that went from April, May, and the next one's in July, so he skipped a month. Yeah, so the time he's becoming a bit more sporadic. Yeah, so these are like his memories of like, I remember this from April, I remember this from May, so now's what he remembers from July.

So the next one, July 1999, he says, it was summer, and I hadn't watched Channel 21 for a while, until one day when I slept over at my friend's house, and I decided to check it out again. My friend had got in a TV in his room for his sixth birthday, so we stayed up very late.

For us, 9.30 was very late, and watched TV. That's when I remembered Channel 21 and brought it up to my friend. We decided to see if it was on, and to our surprise, it was. They must have changed the broadcasting time. Now, a couple things to mention here. For one, six, way too young to just have an unrestricted TV. yeah well do you think so in the era before internet's really readily available i mean before this time people that had their own TVs and stuff i mean like it was probably like

oh you just can't have like a vCR or something to like watch bad movies or something but even then it's like what was going to be on tv you know i'm just trying i'll give you that that in 1999 having a tv that showed like local PBS or whatever was very different because nowadays kids are gonna find creep cast and going to find, you know, us talking about, like, child abductions and whatnot. Crazy shit. Yeah, yeah. We can't be having that. Also here, too, I just want to say that it's interesting where he said earlier that the

broadcasting was from four to nine, and then he's like 930. Oh, they must have changed the broadcasting time. Yeah. No. I think it's definitely just whenever you flip it on, it's going to be there for you. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. So this.

Oh, shit, it's another Mr. Bear seller. Yeah. Anyway, they must have changed the broadcasting time. Mr. Bell Bear Seller. This was episode 23. This episode was entertaining for my friend and me, mainly because it had swearing. However, now when I think of this episode, I realized something was definitely wrong when it was filmed. The episode started with the camera on its side, while it was facing Mr. Bear, who was walking upstairs to the cellar door.

The camera then blacked out for about a second before fading in, back upright, and facing Mr. Bear. There was also another kid talking to him, but this kid looked about 11 or 12. He was talking to Mr. Bear for a while, but I couldn't hear well, again with the crappy camcorder, until the kid started raising his voice. The kid was saying how it was late and his sister had to go home. You could also hear more voices in the background. I remember Mr. Bear clearly saying Get the fuck out, you're not invited

With a deep voice muffled by the bear mask I remember my friend and I looking at each other And laughing at the mention of the forbidden F word But the episode got weirder The kid began climbing the stairs Before turning around and saying how he was going to call the police Mr. Bear began breaking into a run towards the kid We started screaming and running as well

The camera then cut out and that was the end of the episode the channel then turned to static shortly after I want to say that even if I was a kid and I heard someone say fuck because you know I liked a South Park movie and all that kind of stuff from back in the day

if I saw this I would be horrified horrified as a child to think like this thing is just like get the fuck out of you you're not invited and the kids are like it's so weird to me dude that is so creepy

I will say this do you think a six year old could be young enough that they wouldn't process they would still just see a funny bear costume right maybe is six that's a good point edge of like realizing this is weird

I don't know sure I think kids are smart enough to read body language or to understand that like one of the people in the room is clearly upset I think that it does a good job about it though by saying that like the all the audio is muffled

or it's like hard to hear but I still think I'm trying to think about like I feel like I would just be kind of creeped out I think because it's kind of like it is a big bear and it's saying like if it was like saying I don't know it's hard to say six is six is very young it's hard it's hard to know I'll say you're just so disassociated from it maybe I don't know I saw I forget where it was but the other day I heard the line the scariest thing that happens when you're a kid is when an adult suddenly gets very serious. And yeah, that always did freak me out.

So maybe if that is kind of maybe the tick, kids are looking for it to get afraid, maybe the bear costumes hiding that, you know? Maybe they can't tell. Yeah, like they can't actually read its body language because it has just like a giant mask on. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I will say the image. Oh, my gosh.

Here we go, dude. I love it. Every episode. Shut up. Every episode. already, I wasn't thinking about it. I'm busy. I'm working, honey. Every time, dude. It's Mr. Bear, run. Shut up. I can't work under these conditions. Okay. I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out right now. All right. Yeah. So, yeah, anyway, scared kids. Yeah. I will say too that this is,

this is like really I really love this setup with the basement thing just as like a visual like visualizing it in my visualizing it in my head like even that last one in July the idea that the camera is like starting off on its side like there was some kind of tussle

is what I would assume that it's saying right? Yeah. Like there was some kind of struggle or something and the tripod fell over so good and also I don't know are you picturing the basement? I'm picturing the basement with like kind of like almost like not dirt floors but like that really shitty

like crack cement, maybe like one light, it's kind of dimly, really old wooden stairs and stuff. You can hear the constant, like, low echo of the underground. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Love it. It's like, I'm, I'm so in on this bear cellar vibe. It's so creepy. It works pretty

well, and like, man, that image of him running up the stairs at the kid. Oh, God, it's terrifying. Horrible. Especially just because of how fucking goofy a grown adult looks running in those giant ass suits. Yeah. You know, his legs are kind of bowed because he can't just like run regular so it's just even more cartoonish and weird

and the kid even screams and runs away himself and also to not keep dragging this on this part but also whenever he says get the fuck out you're not invited assumes that there's more people off screen who are like waiting on this quote unquote like party that he's throwing or something weird

Mr. Bear's party Mr. Bear's cellar August 1999 I didn't want to watch Channel 21 after that. In August, I grew more conscious to see Mr. Bear Seller for some reason, though. Oh, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm slipping over using the song. You're all scared now. Yeah, I'm all right.

You done got me riled. All right. In August, I grew more curious to see Mr. Bear's seller for some reason, though. The last episode I saw of Mr. Bear was weird and had swearing, which also made me think the show was met for teenagers. Nonetheless, I flipped on to Channel 21 when my dad was busy. That's also profoundly sad, how a kid sees how messed up that is and be like, oh, this must be for the bigger kids, right?

Like, he doesn't get how messed up it is, yeah. Yeah. Mr. Bear Seller, episode 28. Apparently this episode had been playing the entire month of August. It was studied a lot by the police. The entire episode was just Mr. Bear sitting in a chair talking to the audience. Hello, kids. Do you want to visit my cellar? If you do, please write me a letter at this address. The screen then switched to a white screen with multicolored letters reading the address, and that was what remained for the rest of the episode.

This repeated for five hours every day until September came. And guess what I actually did? I sent Mr. Bear, or that sick bastard who portrayed him, a letter. I did it out of curiosity mostly. My dad was okay with it because he thought it was a legit kid's show. But then again, he never saw any of what was on Channel 21. So I wrote a letter using my best writing possible. I think I just said how I wanted to meet Mr. Bear. So my dad sent the letter to the address.

Mr. Bear said on the show. It stayed on all day anyway for some reason. It took about a week to get a response, which I was surprised I did. I still had the letter I received on August the 15th, 1999. The letter read, Dear Elliot, Thank you ever so much for your letter. I would love to have you in my cellar.

We play games, watch movies, and go fire camping in the middle of the woods. Come to my house at... The police cut out this address. Caledon, Ontario, Canada. I look very forward to having fun with you. Love, Mr. Bear. I cannot believe my dad never found this sketchy, because he actually took me to the house.

And... What? What? What the... What? What the fuck? What are you saying? Oh my God!

Time out! Time out! I'm saying a time out. Please, God. Hold on, hold on. My word! What it? I'm trying to wrap my head around that.

He actually took you the how, okay, just keep going, and then we're almost done with this one, and we can actually see. I'm so curious to see. And that's when the police became involved. Those endless questions, those pictures of terrified kids, the woods. That brings me to why I'm writing this blog. That psycho and his friends did some screwed up shit back then. And now it seems he's trying to get into contact with me again. the entire police thing is coming back

that has brought 1999 back to me over a decade later it is happening again oh ooh so now he's going to be 16 in the update here I will say okay

my God my God talk about get this child away from this dad by the way hold on hold on hold on hold on let's frame it right because we know what's happening but he said specifically his dad never saw the station right so a six-year-old he never saw the station but he is led to believe sorry to cut you off he has led to

believe that he has read he has read that thing right as an adult if I got a letter in the mail from a TV studio presumably an adult and it said dear Elliot thank you ever so much for writing letter I would led to have you in my cellar we play games watch movies and go fire camping in the middle of the woods? Come to my house? What? It's like, like, the dad's just like, oh, I don't get a fault. Where do you need to go?

What's the address? Or I'll plug it in. I don't give a shit. Sure. Yo, Elliot, get your bag. We're going. He's like, he wants him out of the house. Yeah, I got TV to watch.

That's why I bought that TV so I could watch my shows. Unbelievable, dude. Even if you've never seen it, I would never, I'd be like, no. Who, who gave? We're not, you want to go to a cellar? We're going to, it doesn't even say, come to the studio, it says, come to my house, he's like, yeah, that seems, that problem makes sense.

That's where Jerry Seinfeld, he films his, all those episodes in his apartment, so that makes sense. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, dude. And then to have the gall afterwards where it's like, he actually took me to the house. You're like, what?

And it says, and then, and that's when the police became involved, is the next sentence. dude. The next thing that is said is that's when the police became involved.

Come on. The police were there to arrest his dad for pregnant. They should have. They should have. Sir,

this is child neglect. He's like, I didn't know what was going on. I just took, my son tells me to take him somewhere. I take him.

I don't think about it. I just take him. I was looking for my dog whip. He's around here. There's endless questions. And also here, and also here,

this paragraph ends with those pictures of terrified kids the woods dot dot dot arrest the dad immediately is all I have to say

that is unbelievable which I do I do want to say regardless of how terrible the fucking dad is is I like the little over a decade later

it's still happening I love that little that little you know dangling the carrot so actually I believe if I recall right everything we just read was the original post and then everything we read from here on was updates he did in the

following months so everything we just read was where the original story ended okay and and but this but the first one was still posted in 2009 correct yes correct okay and it was just this is just him updating okay that's cool yeah yeah all right so we don't we the next log ladies and gentlemen isn't until november 14th of 2009 so it literally is almost exactly i need to run slight okay we don't have the name of the child, I don't think, but the author's name's Camden Lamont, so I'm going to call the child Camden. I'm going to run slight interference for Camden's dad. Okay. No, it's Elliot. Oh, he did have a name. All right. I'm stupid. Yeah, yeah. Because the bear, he wrote the child, the fucking, the six-year-old child. That's right. You're right. Yeah, yeah. Yes. I'm

done. Okay, so I'm going to run slight interference. I cannot wait. I cannot wait to hear this defense, dude. Okay. Here's, hear me out. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. okay the father has not watched the program correct he has just heard his kid like oh i watched this show about mr baron he plays with kids or whatever right he thinks that's all it is it's a local show right which means it's somewhere around the region so the kid's like hey can i send a letter to this tv show and dad's like sure so he sends a letter letter comes back and yes while i will admit to the jury that the word

seller is weird and that probably should have raised an eyebrow he's also heard that the TV show is called Mr. Bear Seller so say it was like it was Elmo's playhouse right if the letter said I want you to come to my playhouse

that would seem normal the dad didn't send his child in that direction he was there with him like the dad's like all right we'll check it out and he walks up with his son and then the police become involved maybe the dad saw something

maybe the police were already there, who knows but again I will have that slight caveat about it. I just want to say that I have to question now if you yourself are Mr. Bear because that's what that defense sounded like because I want to say

that sure he's never seen the show if I would have sat there let's say I've never seen Dragon Ball Z and my kids says, oh, it's a show about fighting. It's, they power up. Sure, right? Come, go to Master Roshi's Island, he says. I'm like, well, that's a weird

thing. And then it says, the next line says, come to my house? At what point would I be like, hmm, that's kind of weird, it's shot in a house? Well, yeah, I guess. I also think it's being presumptuous that you said that he's like, because with how neglectful he's been so far, I would almost

assume this 90s father, it's just waiting in the car. All right, I'll be here. Have fun. get on in there hunter those are gruesome allegations and I don't stand for it myself all I'm saying is I don't yeah I I believe at some point and someone will probably pull up this image I could have sworn that I've seen you with some kind of giant teddy bear mask on and I just I don't know I don't know also you are rushing to the defense of this extremely quickly I don't know what you're talking about the defense of I just think that he's a good author. He's looking at him for his. He just wants his side to have a good time. Okay?

That's all I'm saying. All right. We'll see what this goes. Mr. Bear. We'll see where it goes. That's going to be your new nickname, dude. I'm not going to call. I'm not going to no longer are you

win the good of my eyes. You were literally Mr. Bear is how I see this. Also, you talked about how you seem dead bodies and real lives and stuff. Mr. Bear. Mr. Bear. Okay.

I know I'm a YouTuber, but that doesn't mean. I mean, I'm a pedophile. I know those too often interstate. My line in the same. Oh, God. All right. Update one, November 14th, 2009.

People have been emailing me asking what exactly happened in 1999. I'll get to that. Those weird TV shows I was watching apparently were met to attract kids to Mr. Bear's house. What Mr. Bear did shocked the entire town. My dad actually drove me to Caledon along with the address Mr. Bear left on the letter. The house was actually in the outskirts of the town, in the open farmland. I still remember that house.

It looked like an older farmhouse that looked to have been built in the early 1900s. The windows were all boarded up, and the house looked in a state of disrepair. as we walked up to the house I remember my dad checking the address over and over again and looking at the house in disbelief

then the door opened I'm sorry did you have something you wanted to add I just can't believe that what the entire the entire house

is boarded up and the dad's like is this the right is this right okay well I guess we'll go in yo is this where Kimber's funeral is?

Hey, is this where Mr. Bear's at? Yes, this is where Kimber's mom? Is this where Kimber's mom's? Yeah. Yo, they got sandwiches in here. Oh, yo. Yes.

Anyway, the door opens. I expected Mr. Bear to be at the door, but I was surprised to see a police officer emerge from the creek and doorway. Marcus. Oh, yeah, Marcus, yeah. So what are you, some kind of Mr. Bear Hunter? I heard there's a big animorphic bear walking around here. Just all the story is just falling in on each other. Oh, look, there goes whip. Oh, look at that.

There he goes. Oh, do we take a ride up here, Bristol? I just, you know. Hold on. Before we go in the house. Let me check my Facebook account. I got a message for my dead girlfriend. Yeah, my dad keep, my dead girlfriend keeps messaging me on Facebook. All right, no, we're good. No messages. All right. Wait, what's that? Are those giant chicken eggs on the board? I hope the

eyeless lady didn't leave those here. Okay. I'm good. I think that's all of them. I don't think I think that's all of them. Yeah. Oh, wait. Be careful. There's some stairs in those ones. Yeah, there you go. Now we're

now we're good. Now we're good. Yeah, all right. I expected Mr. Bear to be at the door, but I was surprised to see a police officer emerge from the creaking doorway. The officer began talking to my dad, while I quickly asked if that was Mr. Bear's house. The officer's face cringed slightly, and he muttered, Oh, God. Did you have to do that in the Wabit season voice? Oh, God. Now I imagine that stupid, you know, I'm glad they took that video down. Hey, come on, man. Stupid rabbit. Hey, come on. In a police officer's uniform.

We are going to get through this paragraph. Okay, hold on. Yes. Or something like that. He started talking quietly to my dad so I couldn't hear. Although my dad told me to go to the car anyway. And then we just went home. My dad was quiet the whole way home.

I felt something strange had happened. my dad never told me what happened for a while i forgot about it anyway too channel 21 no longer came on and when i asked about it my dad would not acknowledge his existence i think it was when i was 13 where i learned the truth i remember channel 21 one day and asked my dad about it i guess he finally decided i should hear the truth caledon local 21 was a local TV channel that ran from October of 1997 to August of 1999 in the Peel region of Ontario. The entire channel was made from a house in Caledon, the one I visited, and run by a man who was not really known by anyone in the town. The channel was only available to older TVs because

the signal was one only picked up by rabbit ears or weaker frequency. The man created all the shows on the channel, all of which were kids shows. He was Mr. Bear, and he was Mr. Bear, and and he was the mysterious cameraman. The real reason he created the channel was more disturbing than what was originally thought. As you might have already guessed, he kidnapped kids and held them into cellar. But while most people thought he was a serial child molester, he really wanted to use the kids for another purpose. The day I arrived, the man had fled his house the night before. The day before, the police went in for their investigation.

I wasn't the only one who was watching. Hmm. Interesting. So they haven't even caught him. No. He's still out there somewhere. Yeah, he's still out there somewhere. Ooh, the weird thing, too, of what do you think his other purpose was? I don't know, man. It could really be anything. What do you think it was? I don't know. I can't tell if it's veering into, like, child sacrifice, maybe?

Of some sort. I'm trying to think of, like, a cellar and that kind of thing. Really, there hasn't been that much. I mean, obviously. obviously, I literally thought it was going to be the, I thought it was going to be like a molestation, murder kind of thing. But the, uh, another purpose makes me think that there's something, it just feels a bit more cryptic to where it's like, I'm not, I'm not sure. I mean, like, in my, my immediate other go-to is like, oh, sacrificial purposes of some sort, but I'm not sure. I don't know. Well, we'll see. We'll continue. There's another update. So his thing too here is that he updated it So it jumped from August of 99 To November 14th, 2009 So has he been, has he been the consistent age The entire time of has he just been our narrator that's 16?

Yeah, yeah And this is him now in real time He's been our, because that original post, I'm not sure what date it was made But it was in 2009 So it's him at 16 talking about the story Like what he saw as a kid And now it's him updating after the first post was out

Okay. So our next post is December the 2nd of 2009. Update 2. Sorry for not answering any questions for so long. I haven't accessed my email account for some time. Anyway, let me finally set things straight about what I know. Back in October, I visited the house previously owned by the man who ran Caledon Local 21. Two women live there, operating a daycare business.

How ironic. Now, to answer the questions you guys emailed to me. Question 1. Who else watched Caledon Local 21? I know other people watched it for sure, including those kids who wound up at Mr. Bear's house. After some Google searches, I found a few people on the Neo Seeker forums who were discussing shows from Caledon Local 21. They talked about the two shows I watched, but also another two shows I'd never seen before. A username, I Am Real Life, seemed. to know all the shows that were broadcasted on Channel 21.

Here are the two I've never heard of. 1. The Fallen Angel in Life. I Am Real Life described it as a fairly boring show about a guy rambling on and on in front of the camera about how we must please Satan and appease him before it's too late. And second show, Paint with the Soul, I Am Real Life and another user called Siggy 92 were discussing this show.

They described it as Blair Witch-like, as it consisted of the cameraman wandering around the forest at night doing nothing particularly interesting. I'll go looking for the conversation and see if I can get the link. How do you feel after that, that first question? Interesting.

I mean, I think it helps. It kind of makes you push to solidifying the idea that there's some kind of worship or some kind of sacrifice going on here. And then it feels like the paint with the soul thing is definitely him. He's either potentially lurking around other people

like trying to find people or there is some kind of thing out in some kind of forest that he is visiting some kind of altar you know what I mean some kind of worshipping altar or something I'm not sure

I think what my theory is is that it was a guy who initially figured out how to broadcast on a local channel no one watched and maybe he began with stuff like

the fallen angel in life where he's just like oh we have to do good for Satan and then he learns sort of, that a better way to go about it is the Mr. Baer broadcast, right? That, like, maybe he could hide himself a little bit, not well, but at least to children.

I'm wondering, too, well, not only hide himself to children, but I'm also wondering, instead of having to go out and look for people or, like, assumably, I mean, like, I'm, I'm making assumptions here, but break into people's houses and steal kids, this way, it's like they come to him. You know what I mean? Like, it's much more alluring that way. So, yeah. question three where is mr bear or the guys who or the guy who wore the costume if i did know i would have said earlier

i have no idea where the guy is or if he's dead or alive hopefully dead when i see my dad's friend next time i'll ask him about this maybe i can get a more definite answer and then question number four what did mr bear do to the children this is by far the most common question i've been asked i found this out in october as well via my dad's friend who is a retired Caledon Regional Officer. Apparently, the man playing Mr. Bear took the kids out of the house and into the forest nearby. What he did there, police are not exactly sure how it happened, but 16 charred bodies of children between the ages of 4 to 13

were found in a 15 by 15 foot ditch deep within the forest. My dad's friend did not want to go into exact details, but I'm seeing him next Thursday anyway, so maybe I can extort more information from him then. it's all i have for now thanks for keeping an interest in my blog i'll try together as much information as i can for my next post i've actually been getting pretty interested in this myself it should be my right to know what the hell happened okay so definitely some kind of i mean seems like he's taking people out there sacrificing them for something now i'm wondering

more so my curiosity is leaning into is there any actual paranormal um significance that's going to happen or is it just a madman yeah because you know what kind of reminds me of a bit if you know uh you know temple o s oh yes gosh man you just gave me a flashback but yeah i'm familiar yeah crazy religious guy making something you know and he's just like hunkering down and posting it on the internet but in the same way it makes me think of like delusional man if it's if it's not paranormal it's like delusional man like weird satanist guy thinks he has to appease probably some kind of weird voices in his brain or do some kind of you know something along those lines it the connections are there so now I'm curious to see oh is this going to go into a paranormal direction or not it's it's it's pretty fascinating yeah it's definitely keeps like so far it hasn't fallen off anywhere right it kind of keeps the tension like sure it's revealing stuff like the children were killed uh and there's some reference to say to but we still don't know enough specifics that it kind of gives away right it doesn't show his hand too quick uh update four right yeah update four January 14th 2010 I'm sorry I haven't posted a

thing for a while. I kind of lost interest in this blog since I hit a standstill while looking for more information about the identity of the owner of Caledon Local 21. However, a few weeks ago, I struck gold. I found some answers, surprisingly from the father of a kid I used to babysat. He lives just across from my street, and I used to look after his kids when they were younger. He currently doesn't have a job either. He used to live near the woods outside of Caledon and witnessed the owner's activities in the woods. His name is Anthony Polo. When he lived in the small bungalow outside the woods,

he would often venture in to smoke adjoined a marijuana or two before returning to his work as a wood craftsman. Paulo described that sometimes he would hear voices of children coming from deeper within the woods, as well as a glowing light off in the distance. Polo told me that these events started in late 1997. No, this is around the time Caledon Local Tour. 21 began airing. He apparently became annoyed by this happening every once in a while and actually

went to investigate. Polo then described what the whole scene looked like when he got there. There's a group of kids, he said about 13 to 17, and ages 5 to 12 gathered around a large fire pit with a burning fire. With them was a single adult. Polo talked to the man, noting his unkempt appearance of a crack addict as well as his constant twitching, and asked what he was doing out in the forest with children the man said they were on a camping trip something they did frequently

polo not suspecting anything God dude you thought the dad was bad I know dude imagine seeing a crack-out looking guy twitching and he's like we're on a camping trip and all the kids are like probably looking at him horrified and he's just like smoking his joint

he's like all right any this is the lowest crime rate in Canada yeah the next line so funny it says polo not suspected anything as Caledon has one of the lowest lowest crime rates in Canada

man the idea of like you see a visit like any single father who wants to do crack with his 17 children is a friend of mine we're just camping we're just camping I'm sorry I didn't mean to go

I just I just we're just doing that right he's like the like the person he's like holding one of their hands like squeezing it really hard we're just having fun on here sorry sorry about that sorry I'm sorry well oh my god dude

read the rest of this sentence all right next one simply left it at that and told them to be quieter imagine he's like all right well if you guys could stop throwing each other into the fire here and screaming

and crying and I'd be so nice because I'm trying to... It's so hard for me to think with you guys screaming so much and talking to God. Blogging me out, man. Anyways, yeah. The idea of, like, a kid

grabs his hand and it's like, please help me, Mr. and he's like, will you pipe down? I'm trying to have a conversation with your father here. You're so loud. You're so loud.

Quiet. I can't get myself. Think! I want to talk to the Crackhead. Let's make sure you're safe. who is help that's not my name stop asking for him yeah Polo then paused for a while before telling me that

they never became quieter in fact sometimes he heard loud chanting from the children in an unknown language oh my god what those crackheads and their children oh I think that's Latin dude is that a dead language oh man oh god

Oh, oh, God. He didn't bother meeting with the man again as he was moving away. I'm moving the hell out of here. Who cares? He says he didn't bother meeting with the man as he was moving away anyway. What? God, dude. Polo and the man's dad need to be arrested immediately.

We're in a very tight race for the worst, the worst characters out of a story. Not like, not badly written. I just mean like just bad people that deserve to be in prison. Yes. there needs to be a tear list this is the worst part listen I told Polo that the man was probably the owner of Caledale Local

21 but he doubted it as he heard that the man was moving to Pickering by several other residents near that area bro no I doubt that no I doubt it so anyway yeah I was in the woods and I found these 17 children ages 5 to 12 with this one man around a

fire oh that sounds like the police case of the man with 17 children A's 5 to 12 round of fire. No, it doesn't check out because I heard that guy, someone told me he moved. No, I have it on pretty good authority that that guy's left, so probably not that.

I think you need to check your records because the ones I knew were chanting Latin and cutting themselves in a family friendly fashion. Not the devil worships. Those kids were bleeding from their eyes and chanting Latin, so I think they're like, they're sharp cookies. Like, I doubt that was them. I think they could have, I think they could have

fought that guy off if that was him. I so I think that was their dad and he just really liked crack okay it doesn't like a little hit of crack every once in a while god it's not a big deal good lord here's what I know now the man would take the kids in the woods regularly for quote camping the fire pit

polo described maybe the whole the bodies of the children were found in the children polo saw are probably the ones found dead probably okay yeah I like all these like may be the hole the bodies were found in. And Polosol, the children Polos are probably the ones found dead.

It's like, I didn't, you know, hey, don't think we need to be in fucking inspect their gadget to realize that, yeah. These are the people that, but like, I mean, you know, I mean, come on, man. It reminds me, I can't remember what it was. I'll send it to you if I could find it. But there was this YouTube video I watched one time where they were trying to prove this guy on TV was an individual who had a criminal record, right? so he shows the two side by side and they're clearly the same person but then he spends 10 minutes like as we can see uh his name here is this which matches his name here but that's not all they have the same social security number but that's not all we both see and it got down to the point they were wearing the same shirt in two different photos and he's still like it's like we get it it's the same guy at the end he's like with this information we can safely assume this is the same individual we can safely assume God

That's what this reminds me of The man moved to a city called Pickering A small city east of Toronto I will discuss this with my dad's friend The ex-cop and see if this matches anything The police knew about the man I also want to see if he has any other knowledge Of what was aired on Caledon Local 21

Surely we have to assume that the The broadcaster Are going to start coming back somehow Is what I'm going to assume I don't know But we'll see We shall see I see

The next update February 10th 2010 Good news guys I talked to my dad's friend And he disclosed a lot of information for me First I asked if the police Had any information on the man who ran Caledon Local 21

He replied that they have only had the same leads For years, never found a suspect However The Peel Regional Police do have some of the tapes found in the house Caledon Local 21 was broadcasted from. He took me over so I could watch a few. I guess I haven't said anything, I haven't said much about him yet. My dad's friend's name is Mitchell Wilson, a pretty nice guy.

He seems to understand my thirst for knowledge on what happened during the late 90s in that house. He feels it was wrong that my dad went so long without telling me much. He took me to the Davis Road Police Station. If you don't know, it's the largest station in Caledon, and one of the largest within the Peel region itself. One of the main stations around Peel have some of the tapes. I was able to watch all of the footage that the Davis Road Station has. Unfortunately, I wasn't allowed to take any tapes home for obvious reasons.

I just want to say one thing I really like with a lot of these stories and that this is setting up really well too, is I like the amount of times that like adults like withhold things from their children. Yeah. Or like almost like no kid could ever handle hearing these things or being left in the dark, and it always proves to be the wrong thing. Instead of just being completely transparent

and having it be like an open discussion in due time, like I don't think you have to traumatize somebody, but I do think like, I think that like this deception that it starts off with is like also what like lends so many people to be digging so much more.

And now my gut reaction to is that Elliot is going to dig too far and something like, I don't know. Like I would hate for him to be like, man, no one is giving me answers. I need to keep digging. Yeah.

And then it ends up like, really backfiring on him. You know what I mean? Versus like finding Mr. Bear on his own or something like that. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

I think, uh, I think it's a good trickle of information, whereas like, you're not going to tell a six year old what happened, but you tell a 16 year old what happened, right? I think you could. I think that even like a 13 year old or something where it's like you,

you're obviously not mature yet, but I think that you have enough cognitive functioning to where you could be like, hey, this is what happened. And it's like a really pretty. horrifying thing I think as you're growing you need to know like the dangers

of what's going on especially I would feel so guilty if I took someone there and it ended up being something horrible right where you'd almost

want to be like let's not have that happen again etc. Yeah, yeah no I agree I think it's also a good trickle because like

now Mitchell's like you can see the tapes you know I understand I'll let you see them and it also is good for the reader because we have a good balance

between hearing new tapes and then talking about what they might mean stuff like that um yeah i think i mean as as as with a lot of these stories the deception with the parents is always weird i'm like still kind of skeptical with the dad because i do like the line where he says mitchell says he feels it was wrong or this is in reference to elliott saying what mitchell said he feels it was wrong that my dad went so long without telling me much yeah yeah it's just one little line where i'm like i don't know i'm watching that dad i'm watching that dad now i don't know so the episodes that he was

Joan. Paint with the Soul, episode 10. Garbage Thrown Away. Paint with the Soul was one of the shows that I Am Real Life in Sigi 92 discussed on Neo Seeker. I told the police about this, and they informed me that 12 episodes of the show were made and broadcasted between December 5th, 1997, and January the 8th, 1998. This also further backs up my theory that this and the Satan show would have come first because he ended early 1998 to do more Mr. Bear's stuff. So it seems like Paint with the soul came first. Exactly as I Am Real Life and Siggy 92 described, the episode opened with the cameraman wandering around in a forest. It appeared to be during this evening as it seemed the sun was setting. The cameraman walked along a path until he got to an area where there was a lot of

garbage line in the leaves. The camera looked around at the various wrappers, bottles, bags, and boxes, making sure each item got a few seconds of screen time. The camera then focused on a single area before the man spoke. I recall he spoke in a very timid, quiet voice, and I swear I've heard it somewhere else before, like on another Caledon Local 21 show. I could barely hear what he was saying, but he mainly talked about how humans are garbage, or something that had to do with saving ourselves by cleaning up the garbage, or us. It actually sounded really stupid, but still a feeling of dread came over me. I mean, that forest was possibly where those bodies were found. right? Mr. Bear's cellar episode 25.

When the police administrator brought in this tape, I actually said, Oh, shit, and chuckled a bit out loud. Of course, I got stares from the staff, but Wilson explained to them about my little experience with Mr. Bear and how I still kept the letter he sent me. Like the previous episodes, this one included a guy wearing a bear mascot costume. The episode began with Mr. Bear waddling over to his cellar door with a bottle of orange juice in his paws.

On the ground were 16 shot glasses, as well as a small bottle that contained an unknown liquid. Mr. Bear poured an equal amount of orange juice into each glass before opening the smaller bottle and depositing one drop into the glasses. Mr. Bear then went off camera. There was some minor sounds, such as shuffling, and the Mr. Bear emerged from behind the camera's location. Following him were 16 children. Some looked as young as four, while others looked like they were practically teenagers. As the children entered, the administrator commented that this is the only episode that showed all 16 victims. The kids all looked rather content, except for this one who had visible bruises on his face.

And unlike the other kids, he had a more fearful expression. He also looked about 11 or 12, which caused me to recognize him. He was the kid who asked about his sister and subsequently met an unknown fate at the end of episode 23, that one episode I watched during July of 99. When I told the administrator this, he confirmed it was the same kid. He was also featured in 24, an episode that only aired once at 3 p.m. in July of 99. The police have still not found the tape. Mr. Bear then broke in a song, singing about citrus fruits and how good vitamin C was for you.

I could barely hear the lyrics as they were muffled by the Bear Mask. The kids all drink their juice, the one from episode 23 doing, it rather reluctantly, and the episode ended. After viewing the tapes in possession of the David Road Police Station, I'm satisfied but only temporarily. I still want to know the full story. The police just keep giving me the same crap about the creator of Caledon Local 21 being a fetishist pedophile as well as an apparent cultist. I'll sign off for now, get into university first, and get information later. Hopefully, I'll get back to this blog as soon as possible.

I mean, we're getting to a spot here where the thing about him, I don't know how you read this, but when he put the drop of stuff in the orange juice, it almost makes you think it's like a sedative or something that in a way makes me think maybe would help them not feel pain, whatever. Like, does, is the guy, is Mr. Bear, is he feeling sympathetic towards these kids? He's obviously some kind of mentally unwell man, but is he, is it going to be one of those things where it's like the voices are telling me to do this, but I don't want to? or something, you know, like the information we're being given. I'm wondering what kind of drug he's given them.

It seems like sedating them somehow, but I'm not entirely sure. I think it would be a kind of drug that just kind of made the kids more passive. You know, they'll go along with whatever he says, kind of dull their senses, so to speak. We can also see that after that kid tried to get away, he was physically beat, and now he's drinking it because he's in fear of that happening again. Well, yeah, he doesn't want to have that happen to him again. I'm wondering when if Elliot is going to try to reach out and meet up

with I Am Real Life and Siggy 92. I wonder if they're going to have any kind of like meet up to be able to meet them in person or something. I'm curious. I'd like to see if he meets them in person and to see like what kind of conversation that would be. Yeah.

Okay. Continuing on. Next update, May 8th, 2010. Last month, I finally got my G2 license. In Ontario, Canada, this allows you to drive in a car by yourself as well as with some passengers after six months. I, of course, took advantage of this and drove into Caledon for a little Sunday drive. Since I haven't updated this blog in a while, I figured I might as well visit the house where the infamous channel of my childhood was located.

The house looked different than when I saw it last in October. The place was no longer used as a daycare and just sat there abandoned. however it did have a for sale sign showing that someone still owned it wanting to get rid of it though so i want to ask you what do you think of going back you know there you know he's not there logically right but what do you think about driving to the house i think if you're in search of i think if you're in search of answers i think that you would you'd want to think that or i believe the desperation of your mind would think that there is something there that someone has not picked up on right i think that also being in this thing and feeling this connection is

something that's like mentally overtakes you seeing it feeling it in person is probably so much different but i would say that it's you being like them being obsessed on the aspect of like him being a like a pedophile and stuff i think that even elliott's just like i think that there's something more at play here than that and i think that he is wanting that kind of closure, especially because, I mean, in a sense, he came so close to death himself. So it's like, I mean, I don't know. I mean, if it was me in the situation, I would be reading it, like, there is something that someone has not uncovered yet. And a fascination, too.

I mean, in a way, it's like, it's almost like an obelisk or an old temple to this, like, guy. You know what I mean? It's still standing. It's there. It represents all of these evils in a way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think I would want to go to, too. I don't know if it'd be a good eye.

idea but I'd probably want to at least yeah I mean at this point too from what we've read there's nothing to say that it's still harmful now so I think that like I don't think that I don't think it's like a negative to go back I think it's just a matter of I'm wondering if his intentions are to just find something that has not been uncovered yeah it might be there might be something there uh the abandoned house drew fuzzy memories from my mind mainly of that day my dad took me to visit Mr. Bear. A feeling of dread came upon me. What happened to the children while they were living in that house? I walked up the steps to the front door and peered through the window. Inside I could see a nearly empty hallway with a few boxes at the end. At the end of the hallway

to the right was an open doorway presumably leading to the kitchen. To the left were two doors, both apparently leading to the rooms visible through the windows outside. I wondered where the cellar entrance was located and whether it had been sealed up. I walked around to the back of the house and found my answer. Two wooden doors lined at an almost flat angle where padlocked shut. This had to lead to the cellar. Not wanting to hang around, you cannot imagine what was going through my mind at that time. I departed.

Behind the house, the empty field continued on until it reached a dense forest that lined the horizon. I wondered if that was the forest where the bodies of the children were found. I thought to myself Screw it Oh sorry, go ahead I was just say fuck it But yeah screw it's fine And proceeded to walk across the field

Behind the house into the forest The forest was oddly quiet Save for the few periodic sounds Of a woodpecker drilling into a distant tree I cautiously made my way deeper into the woods Not really caring about the fact That I had no idea where I was going I don't know how to explain it

But it felt like there was something I had to find I came to a thinner part of the woods and a few small houses in the distance Polo's house crossed my mind and I wondered if one of those homes had belonged to him I neared a small clearing in which I could see three adequately sized logs gathered around a black charred area showing a small fire had been lit there recently Hey get the fuck out of our fort Those words nearly gave me a heart attack I turned to my left and saw two dark-clothed people running towards me

my initial thought was to run however as they came closer I saw that they were just kids in their early teens possibly 13 or 14 maybe even 12 as they approached me they realized my size as well I'm 6 1 while they could be no bigger than 5 8

1 might have been 5 7 damn big fucking 16 year old god damn dude he is tall he's the big boy boy's eating his green beans and stuff my word he's going pro immediately yeah

we said get the fuck out the larger one who was wearing a slip knot shirt hey there's your reference he said you're not libisket but it's a reference to something there it is I like that

the large one who's wearing a slip knot shirt said half heartedly I stood my ground and shrugged shorter one was wearing a Metallica shirt there you go another one I like that swung out a butterfly knife and held it in my direction

this is literally Beavis and Butthead Yes, you know what it is You know what it is The one reference we forgot to make earlier The boys from Jeff the Killer The two boys Oh shit That's exactly right

Looks like we've got some fresh meat That's it Looks like we've got some fresh meat Oh I like this I like this kind of No You wouldn't want to I said in a deep serious tone

Trying to sound as badass as possible I pulled out my cell phone The two kids withdrew The one in the Metallica shirt Putting away the knife Look dude We don't like people in our fort So can you just go

The one in the Slipknot shirt said Obviously intimidated I had no business in the forest anyway So I uttered out a simple Farn And turned before I realized I had a great opportunity Did either of you hear a guy

Who murdered a bunch of kids in these woods About 13 years ago I asked the kids The two looked at each other in confusion For the one wearing the Metallica shirt answered Yeah Everyone knows about that guy He said to me as if I were stupid

The kid in the slip-knock shirt continued He still lives around here In the storm drain My big brother's friend said he saw him in a bear costume once Wandering around the forest at night Whoa Okay that's the most missing part of the entire story

He still lives right here in the storm drain is crazy is crazy oh that gave me chills oh gosh the idea of being in the woods at night and he's still wandering out there like maybe looking for the kids he lost

or looking for more and he lives in a storm drain could you imagine just peeking into a storm drain and seeing a bear costume huh yeah and you know I mean I would assume too that he's still wearing it as like some kind of weird identity kind of thing like he is Mr. obviously mentally unwell anyways like yeah oh man that's awful see what's wild is when i when i

heard this story for the first time stuff like that didn't stick out to me because i was like i think i was 12 when i read this the first time so to me i'm just like oh that's a that's a creepy monster thing to have right it didn't hit as hard as it did just now huh yeah well you know what's kind of interesting about you saying that too at 12 these guys are 13 and they're saying it as casually as you probably yeah yeah which is pretty sick yeah yeah yeah man my instincts told me this was probably a lie and the owner of caledon local 21 is probably long gone only existing as a folklore in this smaller isolated community however as a human the thought of the mysterious unknown sparked interest within and where is the storm drain i asked just out of curiosity i don't actually believe the kid's story the kid of the metallic shirt stared at me for a few moments his eyes seemingly full of annoyance yet curiosity for me you're not from around here are you why did you even come here

now i do admit i was slightly startled by the nature of his question however i figured i might as well explain why i was there just in case people mistook my intentions i told the two kids about my experience with the man and caledon local 21 that i had come to maybe seek out some sort of closure although even i wasn't exactly sure the kids seemed familiar with the channel as they smiled and looked at other when I mentioned it. They also became more understanding and gave me a

detailed description on how to get to the storm train. Shortly after, I decided to just turn around the way I came and head back to the house, even the kids of their fort. But now you're probably wondering why I left out such a detail about the kids, wait, sorry, but now you're probably wondering why I left out such detail about what the kids told me just now. It is because I'm choosing to conclude what I've gathered now. Here's what the kids told me in detail. The storm drain lies ahead of the kid's fort, the same direction I was heading. The drain ends at a small river, where access water is drained out. Near here is a

small playground. The kids told me people rarely use it. The man supposedly lives in the large pipe the rainwater drains out of. People have seen him, although always either wearing a bear mask or the mask and a full-body bear costume. No, I do not believe this is true, and in fact simply a myth made by the residents of Caledon. The story does not seem plausible in any way. Why did no one call the police? Didn't this guy look suspicious? And other questions like this leave the story invalid.

I may visit the storm train. Not because I believe the story, but because I want an excuse to visit Caledon again. So this blog doesn't die. With no more tapes to watch, I don't know what to talk about anymore. Thanks for continuing to support me in my blog. I know many are looking forward to more information

about what happened in Caledon during the year 1999 and I'll do my best to continue my research into the topic Elliot out okay and that was in May of 2010 well let me ask you what do you think do you like just out of his gut reaction are you think Smith I do want to say

immediately if we remove the polo part because I feel like that kind of killed the pacing a bit I feel like it was too much revealed at once right like yeah oh they're fine and there's a fire if we remove that part this entire thing is so expertly

dripped to the reader like from like oh there's this creepy guy back in 99 and then a bunch of kids died so that's why the police are interested and then we hear more tapes we start to put together psychology

we start to put together purposes and now we get the detail that he's living in a storm drain nearby although in the real world I would say this is definitely an urban legend right because how does a guy live in the woods for 10 years? right no one called the police no one spots him stuff like that yeah yeah yeah but the story has given us

just enough room for error with the supernatural that it could be possible maybe he's some spirit maybe he's some ghost something like that right uh and it puts you in this perfect gray area where you don't know what to believe and it creates dread it creates tension it's so well done so far i really this is a lot better than i thought it would be looking back on it now and it's it's cool for that. I'm happy to see that. The thing that is piquing my curiosity at the moment is that the last,

it ended with even Elliot our narrator, our protagonist, even questioning the validity of like, this is probably fake, I mean, this doesn't make sense, to where the author knows that these questions are arising, and I'm wondering, even though that this was like

kind of continued on, if the charred bodies is breadcrumbs that is trying to it's setting up some kind of subversion of expectation. I'm very curious to see. I don't think that we've fully gotten a whole grasp of what's going on. And I don't think it's

as simple as the guy being in a pipe. I think that I'm curious. I feel like we're heading down a very interesting road right now. Even if nothing more comes out of the guy in the pipe thing, I think it does serve to like the impact this event has had on the local community, right? Oh sure.

Like the legend is he's still out there. He's still in the woods. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it works. Yeah, he himself has become an urban legend. Yeah, I mean, like, that's, yeah, that makes sense, totally. I'm loving this story so far. I'm thrilled with. Yeah, I'm locked in right now. All right.

Next update, October 7th, 2010. Wow, nearly five months since I last updated. I'm guessing everyone pretty much thinks I was dead, right? Thankfully, I'm not. But in all my seriousness, I really have been busy these past few months. And a blog about something that could have killed me as a kid is a little low on my current priorities list. As of now, I'm living in Waterloo, Ontario, attending the University of Waterloo for Computer Engineering. Yeah, I'm a keener. As you can imagine, engineering is no walk in the

park, so obviously I nearly forgot about this blog, but as you can see now, I'm back. I remember to visit the storm drain the kids from the Caledon Forest told me about. I was out in a clearing between the wooded areas, nearby a marsh. Unfortunately, I found absolutely nothing, save for a turtle that retreated into its built-in home when it saw me. I snapped some picks of the pipe, which I have posted as well. Also, let me tell you it was not a storm drain like they said it was. What I saw was a simple pipe,

possibly to channel the access water from the marsh. When I returned from Caledon, however, I simply kept putting it off, uploading everything, until I forgot all about my blog. It just didn't seem important anymore. Please forgive me. It wasn't until only recently that I am now interested in my case again. On September 10th, I received an email from this email address.

Return the bee at hotmail.com. Funny, am I right? Well, it gets better. I'm going to copy and paste the exact email this guy sent me. Dear Elliot, my dear, dear boy. you see this story may or may not be true but it could happen there are many slots for airtime if you have if you have money you can have a public access tv channel some public access channels share airtime like eWTN which is a religious channel based out of michigan that shows catholic based programming but during off-air hours have independent shows or just blue screen cable networks have empty channels available for rent space. So the scenario of a pedo renting a channel on basic TV is not far-fetched at all. However, public access TV is widely reviewed and can be terminated at any time.

These are the rules of the United States, not for Canada, where the story took place. So if this happened in the U.S., the pedo would be tracked and arrested immediately. Yes, the story could happen, but it is unlikely. 100 Fuzzy Hugs, Mr. Bear. now obviously this letter is fake and sounds almost corrupted but still i would like to thank whoever sent it though they could use some english lessons just reading the letter creep me out but because of it i'm now full of this new interest to continue my blog i guess it's just funny trying to pursue the mysteries i've always questioned now my roommate knows about all this he thought the letter was real and actually seemed more scared than i was for a second but then i shrugged it off so he did too I mean what are the chances of this being real how could Mr. Bayer know

all this about public access TV and about when I went to Caledon on those occasions more or less know my email or me still be interested in this in his cellar I'm going to send a reply to return the bee

wow just looking at that email address you can tell someone wanted to freak me out it didn't really work though yeah we can definitely tell. That's why you're still talking about it. Although, to whomever you are, thank you for sparking my interest back into the full matter. Maybe I can find out more about what happened to Mr. Bear. Hopefully, because although I don't buy that email, a part of me still feels anxious. Thank you to all those who are still following me and become avid fans. You are also why I'm choosing

a continuousness. Thanks, guys. He sounds freaked out. He's definitely, he's definitely out the thing too well i guess just i'm down to curiosity do you think that that email is real or do you think it's like somebody who was following the story then they are trying to prank i don't know i kind feel the same way i do about the storm drain thing you know it could just be set dressing to show how this has affected it but it could also potentially be real um because we don't know if mr bears just a normal person i don't think it's real but if there's some supernatural element then i think it definitely could be okay i i can tell he's getting freaked out by it though so Yeah. I mean, even the way he talked about the kids and stuff too and how much he reiterated that he didn't believe what they were saying. I think that you could tell that. I think that he was trying to almost willfully think that he's like trying to convince himself it wasn't real. That makes sense?

Yeah. I think so. Also, I will add originally, to my understanding, before this was all posted to creepypasta.com, it was on Camden's actual blog he had, like his personal blog. Okay So I think those original pictures Of what the storm drain Looked like are now lost Because I haven't seen them And I'll think I've seen anyone reshare them But if anyone knows if those pictures can't be found

That would be cool Just for set dressing for the video But yeah I think those pictures are lost Because the original blog's no longer up Which is gone Yeah I think so at least

All right Now it's not like super indicative to the story It was pictures of a storm It'd be nice to have it though It's nice to have, yeah, just to see where it might be. Next update, November 7th, 2010. Wow, I can't believe this blog hasn't been deleted yet. I haven't checked it for so long.

I have my reasons, and I'd rather not discuss them just yet. It has been a rather traumatic month for me. Some of you were right. I shouldn't have gone back trying to relive the mysteries in my childhood, but I couldn't resist. It's been a month since my last post, and a lot has happened. Let's recap where I'm at right now with regards to the whole Mr. Bear incident.

Return to be at hotmail.com is no longer in use. I tried to reply to the email, but I got no reply. I tried again a while back. Still no response. I've actually moved up to Ottawa, capital of Canada, for those who don't know, for university, so I haven't been back to Caledon or back home in the Peel region for a while. Add my reasons for leaving as you could guess why. I've had to make a new email account because people keep prank mailing me, pretending to be

Mr. Bear. Thanks a lot, guys. Not. that's the most 2009 not late epic troll face yeah I just did that

why why have I ventured back to this blog Mitchell Wilson remember my dad's ex-cop friend gave me a phone call on October 23rd about a tape that was found in a branch of the Brampton Public Library Brampton is my hometown

in case you haven't picked up on that he claims he isn't allowed to discuss the contents of the tape with me as it's still in evidence but he asked me to come check it out when I return home that tape got the gears grinding again because we all know what was on the last tapes I saw I can only imagine what can be on it I'm guessing it must have something to do with Caledon Local 21 I guess I just wanted to say I am continuing this blog and thank you for everyone who still follows it I don't know when my next entry will be but when I see that tape I'll write what I find

I don't know what to expect but the idea of seeing another tape has got to be interested in this whole mystery all over again Elliot so we now move on to the last tape I will mention something that was really good that I didn't call out when it happened is that part where he's at the Mr. Bearhouse and the cellar's right there and he feels like really weird all of a sudden and walks away from it

like the logical part of his brain knows that Mr. Bear's not there anymore, right? That it's not going to hurt him. But it makes so much sense to get out of there immediately, right? Like, there is the cellar door. You know horrible things happen there and you saw what was on the other side of that door from that camera and it's haunted you all these years. And the padlocks, the only thing between you and it, the human inclination would be to run, right, to get out of there. Like I said, it's not logical, but it makes sense that he would leave rather than investigating. I really like that

detail. I mean, you're right. You're definitely right. You know what's crazy as that whenever I read that? I thought that he left because the inclination was he was like, I want to break in. I don't know why. I thought that until now, but I think that hearing you say that I think you might be, I think that makes way more sense of just that

that dreadful little feeling. Like almost like that pit in your gut. Yeah, like his body's just like, get out, get out, get out. You know, like... Definitely. Yeah. I think a lot of the terror works well and I feel like Elliot is being realistically portrayed as someone who had that kind of trauma and he's now trying to process it and now he's like having to interact with it and like the way that he interacts with it. I think it makes a lot of sense as a character.

Yeah, I agree. So big update here. Update January 21st, 2011. So two months after the last one. The end of 2010 into the new year was dreadfully long for me. University is very, been giving me the usual sleepless nights, especially since I transferred Ottawa, which is the place to party, sarcasm. But now I am back home with my dad in Brampton, the town I grew up in. I got home on the 18th of December and have been visiting with friends and family, or at least that's what I would rather have done. Now the festive holiday cheer that I usually have at this time of the month is absent. And I just want to say two really quick. One thing that I liked from that last post, sorry about the late thought

here but one thing I liked about it was he's like oh people keep making these emails and trying to scare me I really like I like that because to me like looking back at it I'm like what if it's just the guy making different emails and messaging you so so creepy

see it fits because it's realistic that people would be making other emails messaging him after he gave the idea but it's also like you said a chance that it's him just making burner emails so yeah it works on both levels of like is that great area of like is this just like people's response to it or is this another mr bear thing is there really a difference if it leads to the same dread and people who live with it like the thing in the storm drain

does it make a difference if kids won't go play on the playground either way you know and also the idea too that the story has picked up by this time i'm assuming that the story online is doing very well and it's probably well known within the circles of the horror stories right but it could be the idea too that like it's gotten enough traction to where it's left it's like made its way back to the guy and he's able to like know that the guy's talking knowing that this kid is talking about this again

and wants to contact him just like that idea it's just kind of creepy and fun yeah yeah this again very well done to answer the hundreds of emails and comments I got yes I did see the tapes

that my dad's friend Mitchell Wilson promised to show me these tapes however act as a curse I want to know more yet I want to forget everything I couldn't help I needed to see those tapes, not only for myself, but for all of you guys who are just as intrigued as I am by that ominous man in a bear suit from my past. However, after viewing those tapes,

I feel that pit of dread deep inside me once again, that feeling where I know that all those kids in those videos are dead, that I could have been one of those kids, and that humanity's a dark, dark place. If you haven't skipped this paragraph for the juicier details below, thank you for listening to my ramblings. On January the 1st, I called Mitchell Wilson and asked if there was a time where I could come by and view the tapes. Things were pretty slow at the station because of a snowstorm, so he said I could come down any time that day. The tapes were located at a branch not too far from me, so I braved the slushy roads and terrible Brampton drivers and made my way to the Peel Regional Police Station

located at the Bramley A City Center. I met Wilson at the front desk where he then led me up to the second floor into a small office. Instructed me to have a seat and wait while he went and got the tapes. Before leaving the office, he turned to me and said, I know you're curious, but are you sure you want to do this?

Of course I did. Or at least thought so. Besides, Wilson's friend had pulled a lot of strings to get me in there, and I didn't want to waste the opportunity. This particular station had two tapes on hand. I was only able to watch a few minutes of footage, however, because the second tape was apparently two damage to be played on a VCR. Mr. Bear's Cellar, Episode 30

Mr. Bear never ceases to disturb me, especially after what almost happened when I was younger. This episode took place outside in a forest at dusk, making it slightly hard to see, especially considering the quality of, of the film, trademark of anything from Caled in Local 21. The episode started with the camera being held in the pause of Mr. Bear

aiming at it at himself. That bear mask. It looked more sinister in the shadows of the trees. The unmistakable muffled voice spoke up. Hello, children. Today, I will be doing a wonderful thing from my friends.

I will be delivering them to a faraway land. Well, they will surely be happy. Mr. Bear returned the camera around to show an ATV with an attached trailer. But what stood out the most was that the trailer contained seven motionless children lying side by side. This here is the first load, but more will be there on their way soon. Mr. Bear turned around and pointed the camera at a large burlap tarp spread on the ground. He picked the tarp up revealing a large hole. It must have been at least 12 feet deep and maybe about 15 feet wide.

The rest of the episode consisted of Mr. Bear, taking each kid, dropping them into the hole. I asked Wilson if they were dead, to which he shook his head and replied, Not yet. Soon all the kids were in the pit. Some were in awkward positions due to being tossed in, but they remained unconscious. But vitamin C will surely help these children on the great journey that awaits them. Mr. Bear mentioned as he panned the camera towards multiple bottles of gasoline beside a bush. Camera zoomed into the bottles as Mr. Bear hummed before the episode ended. Wilson revealed to me

that these were seven of the 16 victims found burnt to a crisp. Gasoline is what the man playing Mr. Bear used to light them on fire. A pit full of burning children. Who the hell would do that? The feeling of dread found me once again when I realized that I could have been one of those kids. Wilson then explained to me that he had previously lied. The other tape, confiscating by the Bramley of Police branch, did indeed work and contained the filming of the actual burning. However, he felt that I wouldn't be able to handle the disturbing and graphic nature of the episode. And you know what? Maybe I can't. I don't even want to see it. I'm satisfied for now, but I just need some time to get myself together.

The thing is, the Manny Rank held on Local 21 is still out there. More to come soon. Elliot. So how are you feeling right now? Very, um, very disturbing. You know what my mind immediately went to, which is interesting. This concluded in 2011. It started in 2009 with some of the footage and stuff.

The last part there feels so eerily similar to the movie Sinister. and how all of those and how of all those little recorded vignettes it almost feels like a little too similar for them not to have been inspired by this in a way right when did uh sinister come out sinister came in 2012

dude okay so oh are you saying sinister took from this story I'm not saying they stole anything I'm just saying like it feels so odd that this thing was exactly inspired in that way but even just like the way of like the shitty camera the people lined up i mean like that movie is very infamous for those scenes and this is like if at the time even now it's disturbing and stuff granted it's not as graphic as like probably

a lot of the stories would be nowadays but still i mean it just it feels like i'm like that's what my mind went to immediately was that movie and those little vignettes maybe there could there could there could be some inspiration taken like i said the story wasn't super popular to like 2014 once like it started making the rounds on YouTube. I mean it still had a community but it wasn't like you know as big as it became until later. Also the

aspect too of like the Poughkeepsie tapes also being something of an inspiration to this as well is like finding tapes of a serial killer and like it's just the raw footage from a serial killer's catalog of stuff. It's just the way that the stuff is presented even like the monster

himself, the bear kind of thing. and wearing this mask and my mind is just heading towards a sinister place but it's uh it's very revealing it's very it's very revealing i like that we're getting more dialogue from mr bear as well definitely still on a manic kind of episode and stuff still wondering what the vitamin c um wondering what like the importance of vitamin c if it's just him being fucking insane or if there's some kind of going to be some kind of reveal there i think he's talking about just like oh the vitamin C will help them. It's because he knocked them out with it.

I think that's what he means by that. Because all the kids are, all the kids are unconscious on the trailer, right? Right. Did you think the tone in which I was reading it, or do you think that, like, the way that he was saying, like, the quotes of Mr. Bear, do you think he was cheerful?

Or do you think, because even him saying, like, the vitamin C will help them, is he, like, slightly disturbed by what he's doing? Like, what do you think? Because he's kind of catching himself on some of his words too I don't know I think maybe he's just so far gone

I don't even know if he could be disturbed at this point with what he's doing I think it's more so just he's it's like he's describing it to kids he's trying to keep it whimsical right that's where I think is that

yeah I mean it's definitely a deranged man and I imagine that he's still keeping this kind of childish like positive voice kind of thing you know what I mean like just totally delusional yeah I think so I don't know

I don't know if he is disturbed by what he's doing. The thing here that's next that says, Enri, what does that mean? I-N-R-I. Well, the update doesn't have a date. I don't think. So, INRI is what was written on Jesus' cross when he was crucified. So maybe that's what it,

maybe that's what's referencing. I don't know. Is there another name? for it that means like no date given like you know kind of like saying in a yeah i mean maybe i mean just googling it it just says uh translates to jesus nazeran king of the jews yeah it's just what i see yeah that's what's put on christ cross which also if he's yeah which is um if this is just giving more validity to mr like this quote here which it just says i nri there's no date or time on this by the way guys we're just this is the this is what the entry says

once upon a time there lived a boy named Elliot Elliot was a clever boy who loved playing with his friends one day he watched a lovely television show about a bear and his children friends the children loved helping each other as good children should but they also loved the bear the bear loved the children since the children were so good at helping him and the fallen angel the children and the bear wanted to play together forever with the help of their angel

friend. But the fallen angel needed even more help so the children had to give up the ultimate sacrifice. Because that's what friends do, Elliot. They help each other. Help us, Elliot. Burn with us, Elliot. I want you, Elliot. He wants you, Elliot. Come back to my cellar. Pretty pleased with sugar and icing on top, Mr. B. And it ends with I-N-R-I again. Which I'm guessing, I'm wondering if the religious undertone there since he's a Satanist and the fallen angels obviously Lucifer and stuff like that but I'm wondering if INRI is just

kind of a representation of the crucifixion or like the sacrifice that actually now that you just said that that's probably what it is because Christ death on the cross is like the ultimate sacrifice for people so maybe the Satanist using it here is implying that the death of the

children is the ultimate sacrifice for Satan for the fallen angel that probably is what it means in my room, holy shit. What'd you say? Did you say something dropped in the room? Dude, a box dropped off my shelf randomly in my room. Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes, finally. A fucking Elgado streambox box dropped from the second. I don't know how, this is honestly, that's fucking me up. I don't know how it fell off. That scared the fuck out of me. I will say saying INRI is the one explicitly like religious symbol

that we've mentioned so far and when we mention it the box falls off your shelf so I want you to keep that in mind Hunter that actually that actually I'm not even joking I'm like that actually fucking

that scared the shit I'm okay holy shit good and my door is closed my door's closed there's no way make fun of my wife

yeah but at least she's just your wife dude do I have a goddamn demon in my room right now I'm freaking out well I know I don't, I got, I got this and I got, uh, and I got this. So I'm gonna be all right regardless of, dude, you're saying this and this and I have no idea what you're referring to is making it even worse, dude.

Because you're not sharing what I could be using to help myself. I got this. Dude, now I'm at that, I'm at that feeling where it's like I'm really creeped out. I'm like hearing like little things. I don't like this. I wonder, dude, I wonder if you could, that was a pretty loud drop. I'm wondering in my recording if you could hear that. That was fucked up.

Shut up, man Shut up, man That's my nightmare sound All right, it goes into the next It goes into the next entry here Which is actually kind of crazy Because the last entry that actually had a date was January of 2011

And now it says update April 5th, 2011 So it's been some time A few months, yeah I will say if that is what the I and RI means, that's pretty it's pretty sick that Mr. Bear is like fully committed to the symbols

of the religiousness. Because even if the story's not supernatural, which I don't think it is at this point. Even if it's not supernatural, it's this guy, whatever monster Mr. Bear is, so convinced that it's real that he's willing to kill over it. That's terrified. I just hate that I said

INRI and the thing had to drop right when I said that. It's funny that you keep saying it too. You keep provoking it. Because I don't, it's, I'm pretty sure, I think everybody who's working the studio today has left, too. I am very upset. I'm very, I'm very upset, and I'm not going to lie, I'm actually very skittish right now. I'm very, I'm very fucking skittish, and I don't like that. I'm going to send you a list of, like, phrases from the Bible you're definitely not supposed to say.

Dude, don't do that. David said that to me. Some of these good things to say. I want some good, I need some good omens to do. We just hear Hunter scream, and like, that's the last precast episode. Oops All right Yeah

All right Here we go Update April 5th 2011 I wanted to update more I truly did However certain circumstances Had turned me off

To the whole Caledon Local 21 thing I've since then Had hundreds of emails About my blog And was even in contact With the magazine About my story

But now is the time To come clean to Everyone Where have I been For an entire year The story of Pandora's box is true And I opened it I opened it and when I watched the second tape

In the possession of the Bramela Police Branch The other subject I'd like to address is the number Wait hold on I watched it the second I hold up I watched I opened it when I watched the second tape

In the possession of the Bramela Police Branch So he watched the one of the fire Is that what he's saying I think he has not told us what the subject is. I think he said, this is the second tape of there's the first one of them going in the pit and he said, I don't, I don't need to have the watch the second one. I'm fine, but I think he ended up watching it anyways. Yeah, I opened it when I watched the second tape. Yeah, okay, I think you're right there. The other subject I'd like to address is

the number of joke slash fake emails I've been getting from people claiming to be Mr. Bear. Let's start with the second tape, as that is what traumatized me and stopping my search temporarily. Also, I'm doubling down on the critique I had earlier. If you cut out Polo's part, I think the stories perfectly paced because we're coming up on the ending and now to tell us

about that stuff like what was exactly happening in the woods works better whereas Polo kind of like gave a lackadaisical

thing the kids being out of the woods I know they were just around a campfire then it wasn't the kids being burnt I don't think but I still

yeah but still a crack addict looking guy it just doesn't make any sense it's too many people but in my brain I'm taking that out and this

this is excellent right yeah um after a few few weeks of playing silent, I decided to ask Mitchell Wilson if I could view that infamous second tape we had talked about. I don't know why. I just felt that viewing the tape would give me some closure. Wilson was obviously reluctant to show me, but I was persistent. He gave me an offer. If I was

still interested by the time I turned 20, he would show me the tape. Not being able to do much else, I just played the waiting game. By the time my 20th birthday rolled around, I was definitely still interested in viewing the tape. Gave Wilson a call. during which he admitted that he had hoped that I would forget about asking him again but I was not taking no for an answer you really don't need to see it he kept telling me

but I did need to see it I had to at this point sure enough he invited me to the Bramala branch one Monday afternoon I watched every saw film and a video of animal slaughterhouses in my ethics class I was sure I would be able to handle whatever the tape could throw at me

how naive I was I will say like I know that I am one to talk Like if I hear there's a graphic video going around online I want to see it right Just that you know the The human part of me I guess I don't know

I don't think there's ever a scenario I would want to see Videos of children being burned I would hope But I do understand That he has a personal connection to this and almost has a survivor's guilt about the people who were killed, right?

I mean, yeah, man. If this is the last known tape of it, it would haunt you forever if you didn't know. Like, honestly, it would. I think so. So it makes sense, I guess. Mr. Bear Seller, episode 31. When Wilson went to collect the tape from evidence,

the officer in charge at the evidence room shook his head at me, his face saying, what are you doing? Wilson explained that this tape includes the last known episode of Mr. Bear Seller. I rightfully assumed that I would be seeing the fate of the children and began to fill a sense of tread. The episode opened inside a forest, the usual one from the previous episodes. This fact took me a while to realize because it was night, the trees and leaves just look like shapes dancing around in the darkness.

A faint glow of light was present on the right side of the screen. There wasn't any apparent audio. It appeared to be a windy night, yet the trees weren't making any noise. Slowly, the camera began to pan towards the glow, revealing smoke rising from a hole with the tips of flames peeking over the top. Wilson paused at this point. Are you sure you want to see this? Dude, Wilson, stop fucking asking that and just show it already.

How many times has Wilson said, are you sure you want to see this? He's about to show his friend's son a video of children burning. Yeah, dude, but it's like the old. The only thing Wilson has literally said in quotations is, Are you sure you want to see this? All right, that's fair. That's fair. At least change up the speech pattern. Yeah, just change it.

I mean, yeah, it's just comical. I agree, I agree. I insisted on it, even though a voice in my head was telling me not to. The video continued. Camerman moved towards the hole, joined a pit of fire. This was the hole that I'd seen in the previous episode. Only this time, it was filled with shapes. I could see shapes moving around

fluttering, flailing, some motionless, I knew perfectly well what they were. The camera began to adjust to the light and burning flesh. Red, black, a blur of surreal movements and colors. I wish I could forget what I saw,

but you can't forget a scene like this. This was not a horror movie. This was reality. Human beings were being killed in a horrifying way. A fate that I could have potentially meant. The video suddenly cut to dawn. The camera now positioned farther away from the hole. The fire was out.

However, there was still smoke rising up. A figure was up ahead. I recognized it right away. The Mr. Bear's suit was laid out on the ground. empty it looked just as unnerving the suit was laid out in the shape of a cross the cameraman did a lap around the suit treated it like a treasured artifact placed at the head of the suit was a sign and bold letters oh oh i n r i was printed uh oh the cameraman moved back to the end of the suit zooming into the bear's face The episode finally ended. Oh, man. Huh.

That gives me the chills. Not only killing the kid. I feel like... It's a feeling... Go ahead. Go ahead, sorry. It's that feeling where it feels like there's like spiders crawling on you or something. You know what I mean?

That's what I feel like. I'm like... Ugh. After killing those kids, he lays out the suit in a crucifix. Also, it kind of feels like... feels like the death of that character. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like with what he's done, he has now crossed over, right?

He has done, he's fulfilled his purpose. He's now the, the savior of his story. Yeah. That's what it feels like. It feels like this idea, like this, this kind of, um, deity that he has is officially completed a, like the sacrifice. Yeah. You know?

Man. Huh. I was speechless It was like a dream You can You can find a lot of terrible things on the internet But I had never seen anything like this Wilson asked if I was okay and I replied with the shaky

Yes I assured him as we left that I was fine And that the video gave me some closure Over the whole incident He didn't seem too confident in me But he left it at that He was right though I had nightmares for weeks

I gave up I didn't care about the whole thing anymore a sick man burned a bunch of kids alive, attracting them with a fake kid's TV channel. I could have been one of his victims, and I'm still here. I suppose I should be grateful, but I feel guilty. Am I still here only by pure luck? Ten months later, I'm back, but now I need to address something else. My email has been flooded with messages.

Some people ask for more details. Some ask if I can upload the tapes, and some people email me claiming to be Mr. Baer. First, I cannot get the tapes uploaded as there, A, in police possession as evidence, and B, I have no idea how to transfer VHS onto a computer. As for people pretending to be Mr. Bear, you're not fooling me. You have dozens of people pretending to be the same person. It doesn't work. I haven't seen a fake Caledon Local 21 YouTube channel, which is cute, but still not real. Even more annoying is the fact that someone hacked my account just to put up some demented poem about me on this blog. I'll leave it in the entry above this one, just to show you guys.

I have contacted my webmaster about the entry and was told that it was posted on Halloween. Oh, spooky. Attached to the email, Paint WithB at AOL.com, which I assume is another joke email. I'm over episode 31 now. The images of what I saw will stick with me for a while, but I want to you. to do one last hurrah. I will get into contact with Mitchell Wilson again and hopefully get set up with the tapes in the possession of the other Peel police branches. Try to update you guys as soon as I can. I'm sure this won't take so long again. Thank you to everyone who still

reads this. Elliot. Wow. I mean, you know, it's interesting because you can see so many influences and what other people have done here, especially even like my mind kind of goes to like pen pal in a way of an obsessive person um you know even like with the end of pen pal where it's the guy who was obsessed with this person so much that he dressed his friend up you know and i mean like it's like this this cult of obsession thing the idea too of um sacrificing and that kind of thing i mean reading this back in the day must have been extremely graphic i mean it was disturbing now but I feel like now people have to push the stakes because of stories like this. You know, like this, I wonder how crazy this must have felt reading it back in 2011.

The description of the, the body's burning so intense, some still, some moving, some slowly, you know, like. Mm-hmm. Ah, man. Heroin stuff. And then the following of the Mr. Bear costume in the shape of a crucifix. and then he's just supposedly maybe he's out there maybe not maybe it is people hacking his email maybe it is just legends of the thing that lives in the storm drain

maybe it's still him maybe it's the ghost of him maybe it's ah man it's it's such a perfect place of like legends you heard as a kid and you don't know if it's real or not it's such a perfect adaptation of you still in the course of the story don't know what's real or not you don't know what to yeah there's no finality to anything yeah yes that's it that's the perfect way of phrasing it yeah there's no closure no part of this feels like and that's done it's just like open doors and none of them shutting yeah the eerie nature of it being so open to is that i think for me and probably viewers listening is that the idea that any one

of those joke emails are definitely probably joke emails but it's just that it's just all it takes is for one to be legitimate yeah just completely unravel and make this thing even more fucking crazy, you know, and the idea, too, that, like, he does know, that Mr. Bear does know Elliot. I mean, he received that letter. Who knows? I mean, like, Mr. Bear, the person who is still not, you know, no one's contacted him or no one knows where he's at or who he is, could be obsessed.

I mean, this is an extremely deranged man, you know? Yeah. I will say, I think the, the hack, quote, unquote, that happened that showed, it was the poem about him that Mr. Bear supposedly wrote. I do think that's real because of the four-letter edition, right? Because it contains... How else would they know? How else would they know exactly?

How would they know what was about to show up in the next tape? So... And I think that's what that letter was doing. I think that's what that submission was doing. So that would mean that he probably is still out there, online or... Not only is he still out there, but he knows Elliot. Like, he knows what's going on and stuff. And he still misses him.

He wants him to join him, right? So maybe an update never happened. after that implies that Mr. Bear got him. Yeah. Made him join the angel. You never, you never know. I mean, ending it in this way is frustrating in the sense of like, I just want to know closure of some kind. Even if it's him saying like, I'm done with this.

I'm, you know, I'm putting this behind me, blah, blah, blah. But even that, even this last episode, he's like, no, I'm going to go look for more. And I'm going to see what happens. But we never get that kind of. It's like a, you know, in a way. Ted the caver kind of ends in a similar way except Ted the caver gives you that ultimatum of like I'll update you when I'm back

but he never comes back you know what I mean it's that beautiful ending this one is just we don't even who knows you know I mean as we all have known this entire time Elliot has been teased like or not teasing us but he's been basically filling us in on like hey sorry I've lost interest my life kind of took a crazy thing I don't know if I'll have time

so he's done this so who knows I mean he could have also just been like, ah, I just don't want to do it anymore. I don't want to update it. I'm tired of all the emails. So there's so many things. There's no finality to any of it. And it makes it really, really entertaining. And I can see how much to with, did Candlecove come after this or before this? Let me look real quick. So the story got, like I said, it started in 2009. Final update was 2011. It blew up. I was wrong in saying that it had its first wave in 2014 with YouTube channels actually got its first wave when someone posted it to 4chance X board on September 9th of 2012 and when that happened that's when people started to notice started to go to the original

blog site whatever I see so 2012 was when it got popular it was published in 2009 on his website on Chris Straub's personal website regardless if whichever one came first I think that like either one could have been inspired by each other, but one thing I really appreciate about this is that it starts off and it kind of has some weird creepy vignettes, but I'm glad that we do get to kind of go in more of a narrative device of stepping away from like each post just being new entries,

which, you know, there are a lot of entries of the tapes and stuff like that, but we get so much more out of just being able to get the narrator's perspective on things and being able to really feel in, heist with this world. Like, I mean, one thing that I really appreciate about, like, some of the stuff that came after these were, like, really early creepypastas is people really taking time and, like, really getting into, like, the characters or especially our protagonist and stuff, not making it feel like it's just kind of a random blog post, but really, like, pushing the idea

that, like, these blog posts can just, I mean, it can be a huge exposition dump for people. You know what I mean? Like, my favorite part of this whole thing was definitely running into the Beavis and Budhead looking kids and having that little urban legend. and, uh, kind of pop up. Like I, I really enjoyed that and I wish that there was just more, um, to that, which granted, you know, this, it, it, it flows so well. Like you're saying, if you didn't have the polo part, I think that, or the polo part, I think that this would be just such a well-paced story that just is just awesome, just such a

fun read, first off, so casual and fun. But part of me also, because I'm kind of invested into it, it's just wishing that each one these like we got to hear more you know even like some of these one thing i think would be kind of interested i'm curious to hear what you think is um even getting to see more of these joke emails yeah yeah seeing what more people are saying even if it is just set dressing for the world exactly even if it is just kind of i want to get more more into the psyche of having to read these as well like that's like building sympathy for elliott and feeling as confused as he is like sharing more of them you know hey here's a string of stuff or even just being like someone sent me this it's

getting really annoying or whatever like i think that way i feel like i would have been it just it's just a giant teeter totter it's just kind of going back and forth whatever i think that that's really fun really really fun i'm glad we read this one man this was fun yeah it does go hard there is one thing that's bothering me though i swear i remembered a different tape there was an extra tape that I kept waiting for it to come up and it's not and it's honestly kind of freaking me out a little bit now because I remember you have your own personal thing going on because that's the whole plot right like oh I forgot that I saw this as a kid but I swear there was a tape that the whole the whole episode was just hands it was like just hands on camera like talking like oh

what do you want to do today and then one of the hands cuts the other with scissors and you could hear like a muffled scream when that happens as if like it's mr bear holding the kid's hand and making him cut himself do you think that this could have been a tape like a maybe it's a tape that isn't i feel like i'm going to i'm going to find this out because i when it didn't happen i'm like oh it must be candle cove but i look it up and that's not candle cove hmm hold on now i'm scared oh i will mention why i'm looking this actually got adapted in 2017 to an Amazon Prime series, a mini-series, or Amazon video.

But there were also a bunch, there's a ton of like alternate 1999 stories out there where like people wrote, oh, well, this is a lost Mr. Bear episode or this is another booby episode, stuff like that. So I'm curious. I guess there anything that we can research that shows that possibly why these were removed?

Yeah, I think so. I'm curious. Yeah, I'm, I'm curious. curious too or maybe even somebody if anybody in our comments knows as well we'd love to pin or do anything too i mean like just because that was the last booby entry there so i'm curious to see why i feel like there's some creepypasta community lore here that i'm not privy to but i want to know i remember when that happened when people started discussing the hand thing i remember people saying oh that's similar to this other thing but i don't know if it was straight up plagiarism or anything

if it was just another series about talking hands, unless the story itself was ripped, but Hi, so Pretend Detective Windegoon here. I've done some research online, and I'm pretty sure I know what happened, why I and likely some of you remember a different version of the story than the one we just read. And all of this is just like uphand research I've done within a couple hours, so if I'm wrong about any of this, feel free to correct me in the comments below. So as mentioned earlier, Camden Lamont is the original author of the 1999 story. He posted the story to his personal blog on November the 14th of 2009.

Again, with subsequent updates coming out on the dates listed within this episode. However, it seems that Lamont wasn't really aware of creepypasta culture or of people, you know, copy and pasting horror stories around the internet. So he just posted the horror story as his own project to his personal blog. and that'll be the personal blog that we link in the description of this video so that way any traffic from this goes to the original creator but it seems that after he had posted his story people were taking that story and posting it to creepy pasta boards without crediting him not only that but they were adding their own additions to the story and one of these additions is the talking hand show known as booby that i mentioned a moment ago which in itself is just a parody of an action talking hand show called Ubi. Not only that, but one of the people who copied the story over to a creepypasta forum added an extra episode of Paint with the Soul that was a one-for-one copy of an Allen tutorial video, a popular YouTube ARG. In the following years, since the majority of people's interaction with the 1999 story was either through the creepypasta forums or through creepypasta

YouTubers, everyone assumed these additions to be part of the original author's story. So when people started to recognize that Boobie was just a low effort copy of Ubi and that the Paint with the Soul episode around Allen tutorial was straight up plagiarism. They started to accuse the original author Camden Lamont of being the one to copy those stories for his own work. But like I said, Camden never put those into the story. It's the people who ripped his story and then re-uploaded it who added the not authentic parts. also led to a lot of drama in like creepypasta communities around 2018 because camden who wasn't

aware that any of this was going on found out that all of it was going on at once and started to take down versions of the story that again stole his story and then added parts that made it seem like he was copying someone else's work but people who didn't know the full story of that just assume camden didn't want people to talk about his plagiarism which again he never actually did So Camden received a lot of hate because people thought he just stole other people's stories and then was trying to hide the evidence. So the version that we read today is Camden's original work as he originally wrote it, and all the stuff about plagiarism and whatnot are from people who ripped his story in the first place. Again, link to his original blog post in the description, and if I got any of this wrong, please let me know.

You know, in 1999, it was rad. I mean, very, very rad. I know people have requested this one in the showers, so maybe we'll hit the showers next or- kind of makes up for them requesting the thing in the basement. I'm still, you know what, whatever they requested is not our fault, is all I have to say. And this one, this one was luckily a strong one. Like, I think it's, it's awesome. Just a lot of cool influences in there. And it's just, it's interesting to see these kind of internet stories and how they, you know, inspire each other.

And it's cool, man. I'm stoked on it. Yeah, me too. But without further ado, I mean, that was 1999, ladies and gentlemen. As always, we request just be sure to listen to this on. audio platforms if you can and give us a nice little thumbs up or a five star rating and also

if you have any story suggestions please be sure to leave them down below we do look at that and we look at all the funny little fan edits as well it makes like I said belly jiggling it's very very nice I'm actually going to go clean my shorts because of the Elgado box dropping that really uh that got me

pretty bad it is a stinky mess in my pants right now from that and I am still shaking that's what you get It is what I get. I feel bad. But without further ado, thank you so much for watching, Creepcast, and we will see you in the next one. See you in the next one, everyone. Uh, bye-bye.

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