CreepCast - Ad Nauseam | CreepCast

Episode Date: May 10, 2026

We visit the Sallie House in Atchison, Kansas and read Ad Nauseam, ad mortem, ad infinitum on the floor of a child's room Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Alright, here we go. Alright, here we go. The Sally House. What's this mold smell like? It is. It is... It's pungent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:20 It's pungent. Yeah. I'm telling you. There's little, like, facts on the wall. Oh, yeah, there's... Oh, I'm sorry. Turn the light on. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Oh, I don't like that. Holy. All right, come in here. Look at this. Is that Sally's briefcase? That's the doctor's bag or she died. This would be the tape. What is that a picture of a half of Sally?
Starting point is 00:00:45 What are you talking about? Sally began writhing with pay... Sallie began writhing with pain. Her fears increasing after eye the doctor's surgical instruments as he carefully laid them out for the surgery. This is a nice fucking fridge, dude. Look at this. Sally's Pizza Hut classic green shit. Back to Creepcast.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Today we are in an actual haunted house. house. This is in Atchison, Kansas, the Sally house, and we decided that this time around when Isaiah came out to do some recordings that we're going to actually read a ghost story and a haunted house where I suppose like
Starting point is 00:01:37 a little girl died. Yeah, I get here and Harry picks me up this time. Hot hunter, Harry, picks me up from the airport and they're like, here, we're going to a haunted house. I'm like, great, which one? They're like, here's the name. And I look it up. And it's like, yeah, it's a place where a child was killed in a botched surgery.
Starting point is 00:01:52 it's a it supposedly there's supposedly there's a demon in here there's all kinds of stuff and then not only that there's a tornado warring it's fucking thundering outside we might get stuck here so we're recording a couple episodes here this is our first one that we're recording for the night and it is a ghost story called ad nauseum ad mortum ad infinitum uh by who's this by this is by our good friend imperial invective oh okay yeah so uh we've covered their stuff a lot I have to shout out a story that Harry told me. When Harry reached out and asked if we could cover this, he said we could, but he thinks that he's got enough attention and we should give other authors attention. So that's the kind of guy this dude is.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Dude, no. But I also don't care because this is a cool story that's come highly recommended. And most importantly, I want to read it. Yeah, I mean, that was one thing that we were talking about before we started was you were like, this is one that actually I've been wanting to read for a while. Which seems perfect for like an actual spooky setting. And I will say, I'm a little jittery. The lights are all off in the house. I will say, luckily, there's other people here, but I'm ready to actually get actually
Starting point is 00:02:57 pre-spect. If you can see the room around us. So this room, according to the legend, there's a young girl named Sally that came to this house. Back when the family that lived here had a medical clinic in the basement because there was a hospital nearby like late 1800s. And a little girl named Sally was brought by her mom one day and she died during an operation. So the story is that Sally's ghost continues to haunt the house. But before it became an attraction that you could come stay in,
Starting point is 00:03:28 it was a house that other tenants and families lived in for a while. And there was one family who had a boy, who was about eight years old, I think, who was staying in this room and said that he would lay in this bed and watch his toys move in the night as if Sally's playing with them. So now people who come to the house, as you can see, will leave toys here. for Sally as a sort of and we... I left to Margaret.
Starting point is 00:03:51 He left Margaret. I will say, I'll tell you the whole thing about Sally, they did that bitch no favors with that self-porture downstairs. Rough drawing.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That bitch looks like a 43-year-old dwarf downstairs. I'm telling her. She's going to start complaining Peter Dinkl just stealing her work. I mean, to be fair, she's got to be what,
Starting point is 00:04:10 140 years old now? Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it's been a bit. It's been a bit. Yeah. So yeah, we're in,
Starting point is 00:04:16 we're in the room that Sally likes a plan with all of Sally's toys. And there's also a few other spirits there said to live here. The same boy that lived here would wake up in the night. See an older woman or an older woman strangling him. There's stories of like a man. I hate that we're getting ready to read a scary story with this.
Starting point is 00:04:35 There's another one right down the hall in the master bedroom. Someone who was staying the night here had a dream of a dead boy who was chained to a pipe. And then he goes up from the dream and he goes to the dream. and he goes to the room and he finds the pipe and he opens up a crevice in the wall and there's a bloodied shirt that the boy was wearing in the dream. So there's the young boy that was killed. There's Sally.
Starting point is 00:04:58 There's the old woman. And also, at some point, there was a tenant who lived here who had a ritual in the basement. Yeah. And we went in the basement and it's... And you can see where the ritual was. There's a hole into nothing that is literally fenced off.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yes. It's fucking absurd. Isaiah, general first thoughts. Alright, so I am going to say, this is pretty, I don't like this at all. What's wrong with it? There's a giant black scorch mark
Starting point is 00:05:33 in the middle of the floor. There's a chair in the corner facing me, a pillow, and someone's caged a hole in the wall. Well, okay, so. Okay. All right, hold on. So that's actually fucking... Whoa.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And then, if we looked on the floor right here, is this where the sigil was that was painted over? The Beelzebub thing? I thought it was on the wall. What was on the wall? Did it just say downstairs? And according to everything I read, he had a ritual to summon Beelzebub.
Starting point is 00:06:11 If that means the devil to him or a satanic entity, which I have a lot of respect for. If you're going to aim for one, aim for the top. Aim for the people. I mean, why play around? Yeah, I was like, what are we? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's like, I'm here to summon maim and it's like, okay. Yeah, exactly. It's like meeting Hall and Oates and being like, can I meet Daryl? Or can I meet Hull? Or can I meet Oates? You're like, no, I want to meet Daryl Hall. You know what I mean? So without further ado, one also I want to say, we should keep an eye on the front door,
Starting point is 00:06:37 make sure it's locked because there was like people outside there, walk around. She's like, I love this place. Yeah. You should go upstairs needs a magic eight ball and all that kind of stuff. As we came in, every house nearby was like peering in watching us. The next-door neighbor, which I'm not going to go into, but I will say the next-door neighbor's house is far more haunting than. When we rolled up, I was like, there it is.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And they're like, no, it's the one next door. And I'm like, oh, my God. There it is. Right here to the right. The right. That one, the two-story one. Oh, my God. It even has a trash can.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Two trash cans. Oh, my God. First impressions, lit. First impressions is, I will say this. The second story window. is actually horrifying. Also, this blue Ford Focus, why do I feel like someone's going to be in here? This is 100% it right here.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Are you sure about that? Yeah. It has some dress and trash cans. Is it the one next to it? I might be the one next to it. If this is not the Sally house, and that's just like a poor person's house, I'm going to be horrified. I think.
Starting point is 00:07:42 A person's dilapid house next to a literal haunted house is unfurated house. is un-fucking real. It's the one next to it? Yeah, there was a good three minutes of Hunter being like, this is the scariest house I've ever seen. Oh my God, I saw someone look at me from the top. Yeah. And I thought it was a ghost there.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It's like, no, it was just the person who lives there. So Hunter spent like 10 minutes being like, this is the worst thing I've seen in my life. I'm, I'm, I've been horrible. I've been, I've been horrifying. I've been, I've been scaring myself the silly others I've been here. I kid you're not.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I went outside on the front porch to help carry, carry something in. And I heard a group of women singing. Yeah. There is some kind of. And it wasn't like, it wasn't like a hopped off the plane. It was like, um, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you were going to be a witch and you're like, I want to hang out some other like fucking witches, why would you not live near your house like this? You know what I mean? It was a chorus of women. It's a chorus of. Say what you mean to say, a chorus of witches is what you meant to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah. Well, without further ado, should we get in? So Imperial Inpective covered a lot of his stories on the podcast before Incredible Author. We'll have all of his stuff linked to the description. What was one that he didn't? The insorseled in the earth. Oh, sure. It bleeds it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 It bleeds, it breeds. That's a great one. Yeah. And there's one more we covered by him. I can't remember right now. Which one? Fleshgate? Fleshgate.
Starting point is 00:09:07 That's right. That's right. Was it Fleshgate? Yeah, Fleshgate. What are you asking me? I don't know. The one about them going into the woods and one of them was a mimic. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, sure. So a bunch of cool stuff, a friend of the show, we like it. And every time we read him, people recommend this story as one of its best. My foot's asleep. Okay, honey. It's numb up. I'll tell you what, every time I always sit and I always sit on my left foot, and I always think it's my diabetes that's going to like cut away the circuit.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I don't know. I'm so anyways, ad nauseum. This is a three-part chapter one. It's fine if your foot falls asleep, but the moaning thing you do. Sally, stop it. Okay. Ad nauseum, add mortum and add infinitum.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So let's start it, man. All right. Let's begin. Beginning with our first section, ad nauseum, which ad nauseum means to illness, correct? I think.
Starting point is 00:10:05 This is Latin. I legitimately thought that it was just... Ad infinitum means... Oh, ad nauseum means to nausea. Yeah, to nausea. Yeah. So it would be to illness, to death, ad mortim, and at infinite him forever.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I thought ad nage was just, was legitimately just a magic card. It is also a magic card. Well, that's all I knew if I meant. God damn, wake. Well, you, that the shoe's going to come flying off. It's not coming off.
Starting point is 00:10:35 My foot's all swollen up. Okay. Beginning with our first. God, I am so fucking sweating on here. Do you need a whistle? I need a, I'll tell you what any. God damn, Swig of this real quick.
Starting point is 00:10:48 All right. Swig break. How do you wake up a foot? You got to stand up. You have to stand up. You act like we're about to play in the Super Bowl. Dude. I feel like I've been running
Starting point is 00:11:13 fucking Oklahoma drills all day. All right, go ahead. Ad nauseum. Have you ever seen a ghost? I don't usually ask the question because everyone will typically start telling a typically bullshit story about seeing an old woman in their peripheral vision one late night, hearing the voice of their deceased grandfather asking about the kids, or maybe even picking up a phantom hitchhiker on a late night after driving for too long.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I ask this question because I want you to have your spiritual encounter on your mind when I tell you my story. My encounter with the afterlife wasn't very typical, and I doubt that after listening to my story, you'll be able to see you. yours is ordinary either. Kind of a cliche, isn't it? The whole, another right. Oh, if I tell you my haunted story, oh, I saw an old woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 What would be one where it's a curveball? We were like, oh, damn. You know? What would you, if you were getting a haunting, I'd be like, if I heard, like imagine this. Not a good example. So don't judge me, but like a ficus plant.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What do you mean by fichus plant? Say exactly. I don't know. You just said a phicus plant. A haunted ficus plant. Okay. That's more context than you gave us the first time. You wake up and you wake up and there's a plant in your room.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You're right. Would that not be kind of creepy? What is, yeah, okay. I see, okay. I'm saying that it's always an old woman.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So it took three, too many old. It took three attempts for you to get to what the fikas plant does. I was asking. Couldn't have been more clear on the first one. Couldn't have been more clear on the first one. You could have actually. Mine completely,
Starting point is 00:12:48 completely clear, sweat burning my eyes. And I'm telling me right now that it was, You're not that sweaty. I'm looking at you right now. You could not be more wet. You meant like come down and let me tell you my tail. I thought like what's another alternative for that?
Starting point is 00:13:01 No, no, I'm just saying that when people tell you their haunted stories, they always say, oh, it's a little kid. It's a old woman. I'm saying that someone's just like there's a,
Starting point is 00:13:08 there's a random plant in my room every night. That'd be kind of creepy, huh? I'm just, I'm picturing another living object. Right, right, right. Because you were like a rock. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:13:17 well, who gives a shit. People do that with, like, cats a lot. Like strange cats begin to a, yeah, You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:24 I bet you wake up and there's a grizzly bear in your room. Well, a grizzavoid. I bet you care real quick. Yeah. A haunted grizzly. Yeah. That's worst case scenario. What would a haunted grizzly, would he talk?
Starting point is 00:13:38 If you want him to. I can now speak your language. You don't speak bear with me, motherfucker. That's how we're talking to each other. He's like, fine, you win. All right. Parry, rough two. It all started in early 2001 when I was 13 years old.
Starting point is 00:14:03 My family had just moved to a new city after my father lost his job. He was lucky enough to find work in a small town in Michigan. Town, Kalamazoo, was a quaint and quiet community. It's like, I don't know, it's fucking like Willie Wonka Town or something. Where do you live? I live in Kalamazoo. It is a real town. I don't care. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I wouldn't move there. Can you imagine going on Zillow and looking at house in Kalamazoo? What state's Kalamazoo? That's what I want to know. Oh, Michigan. Yeah, a small town of Michigan. Oh, yeah, there you go. Yeah, that explains it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Clean water in Kalamazoo, they say. Well, yeah, it has to be going somewhere. Leg, fall asleep now. I'm just going to lose feeling in your whole body. I think I might be paralyzed by the end of this reading. I didn't realize how much my body needed a chair. there's Sally's crib here. I might actually crawl on that here.
Starting point is 00:15:03 That will get us on. We moved there midway through the school year, so I found that I had about five or six months of free time before I could attend school and meet the other kids. My neighborhood was built for younger couples, so there weren't too many kids to hang out with during this time. The cold weather forced me inside most of this time. I was fine with being indoors.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm an avid gamer and love survival horror games. I spent most of my time in my room, which was in the basement, playing games, and trying to distract myself from the fact that I had left my social circle and was now in a new and unfamiliar place. I was a big fan of Resident Evil and was slowly getting into Silent Hill around that time. Just a small note about my house in Kalamazoo. It had a main floor with a kitchen, living room, and a bedroom bathroom. Basement had a wide open area, my room, and a room with a water heater. off to the side. See, because we're in here, I can only imagine this house's basement.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So I imagine like that dungeon set up with like a million percent. Also, you describing that. I'm not even like my asshole's tightening. And there's even there's even like cracks of thunder outside. Yeah. As I'm reading, I can hear like the rumble. People, when you watch this back, you're going to see me look at my laptop as if I'm reading. I just have a thousand yards stare like this.
Starting point is 00:16:27 there's like, this bear does, like... I don't like a fucking look at me. That bear was not in that position. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't because the bear... Don't say that. The bear, because I was going to make a joke when we sat down because it was facing directly at me.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Nick's probably bumped into it. He's probably bumped it. But I had on mind, like, I'm going to make a joke about that bear keeps looking at me. Nick, did you bump it? But now, the bear's looking at you. Don't shake your head. No, fucker. The bear's looking directly at you now.
Starting point is 00:16:54 He's looking right to me. The bear doesn't care about me. Turn him. No, we're not. I'm not. touching that bear. I'm not touching that. I'm not talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You're touching that bear. I'll put my computer up so we can't see it. Also, while we were in the basement, I took care when I got down there where the sigil was on the ground. They said like the semining ritual was.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I saw that and I was like, oh, I'm not going to step on it. And the first thing you did was stomp all over it as soon as we got down there. okay no one told me about the sigil on the floor okay well when we walked down I said hey hunter
Starting point is 00:17:32 that must be where he drew the sigil on the floor I'm pretty sure I said nah it was on the wall and then you stand on it to look on the wall where is it I think the bear knows you did that
Starting point is 00:17:49 no no no we get a bear cam going I feel like how that maybe that is a nanny cam are people fucking in Sally's room? Oh, I bet they have hidden cameras in here somewhere. People always talk about Airbnb stuff where they like, they'll sit there and because those old dudes, they'll sell those, they'll sell those videos and people take their shit fucking, or they'll just beat their cock off to it or something like that, but they sell
Starting point is 00:18:11 that shit all the time. How do we know there isn't a fucking Sally Cam that's going for sale? Pirates Bay. Sally Cam Pirates Bay. I feel like there isn't a hill. Because like the whole thing with those like, keeping Tom videos. There's a market for it because people are looking to, like get their rocks off that way.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I feel like there isn't a plethora of horror haunted house enthusiasts. Well, I've got to get the hidden footage. There might not be a lot of people that are into it because there's already like 70 million YouTube videos of people here. But see, what are they doing off camera? Let's see,
Starting point is 00:18:42 that's what that's what that fucking teddy bear is looking at. I'm trying to say, I bet you, some guy has a Snapchat story of him getting his dick sucked right here. Oh, yeah. No. Oh, a million percent. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Him sitting there and he's like, he's doing this in the camera. For one, for one. It has it has three days grace. Durnurnurn. I can explain this hell. All right. He's getting his dicks like.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So if you can see. For one, both of you two soon that someone who rents out the haunted Sally house. Dernard. Has that capability. And also. No, I don't. I don't think so. Something's getting in here to like the Sally like sanctuary area.
Starting point is 00:19:24 where everyone leaves her toys and, like, letters and birthday cards and stuff and do that, you deserve whatever happens to do. I'm not saying that they got away Scott free. I'm just saying that it 100% happened. And then they go flying to the basement staircase. This is definitely not the original window. People are definitely performing out of that. Shot right out of it.
Starting point is 00:19:41 The house was old. It was built sometime in the 1900s. I was really. I got a straight job. I'm sorry. Oh, God. The blood's going back in my foot and it tingles. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:19:53 You don't feel really good. If I smacked it right now. Good. No. No, it hurts so bad. When your foot's waking up and something hits it. Get it. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I like the way you're saying that. Do it in it. Oh. Yeah, it feels weird. Pins and needles. Yeah. Oh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:14 All right. Dan, nah. Okay, all right, all right. Many times I've trained. This is a scary story podcast. God, it feels like I'm like, I think I can't tell I'm dying. My fucking foot is, I'm bullied.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Oh, my God. Take your shoe off. Take your shoes off. You know, me too? Yeah. That's going to stink. Well. Yeah, I'll leave it on.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Okay. It's going to stink soon. Can I read the story? I'm sorry, man, I'm like winded. I'm sitting here and I'm fucking... Here, let me do... I'm gonna do a cute thing here. I'm gonna get on my belly.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Here we go. Kicking your feet in the air. I just need a little second here. Just keep reading. Let me do my thing. You just keep reading. There's no way I can read with you doing this to the side. This is it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Okay. The house was old. It was built sometime in the 1900s and was refitted to be more modern. Asbestos was replaced by insulation. Lead paint was removed and copper tubing was put in. It reminded me of the old ship of Theseus conundrum. At what point of repairing and replacing parts does the house stop being the same house and become a completely new house?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Did I live in a house that was almost 100, or was it now a completely new building? The house had its fair share of problems. It was freezing in the winter due to more heating, particularly in the basement. Every now and then, I would wake up to find my breath fogging in the air. I slept with a heater in my room to combat this invasive cold. I accepted this drawback in exchange for the privacy that it afforded me, and as a teenager, privacy was of the utmost importance. The house also made sounds at night.
Starting point is 00:22:16 The parents told me that it was just settling on its foundation, but I wasn't so sure. It started with the most innocuous of things. Whenever I was settling down for the night, the sound of a door lightly bumping into the frame could be heard. At first, I thought it was just a wind current generated by the heating system or pressure change pushing a door in the basement closed. I told myself that the next few nights it happened. I held tight to that belief when the sound persisted even after shutting all the doors in the basement to get down on flow through. Another noise that was almost always happening at night was the sound of my bell. bed creaking. At first I thought it was me turning in bed and making the sound. Then it started
Starting point is 00:23:00 happening even when I wasn't moving. I spent a few nights lying completely still, waiting for the sound of my bed shifting. I would always look over at the other side of the bed, but there wasn't anything there. Eventually, began to get used to the sounds and they became background noise. Routine occurrence in my life. A few days passed, if you ever have anything that that happened to you? he's completely lounging now you laid on your side you're sitting there you ever had anything like to happen to you
Starting point is 00:23:34 has there anything happened like that to you before like specifically the bed thing I remember after my after my grandfather passed away who I was really close with Rip I I said
Starting point is 00:23:51 rest of peace dreams I had I had a dream of lying in the bed and he came in and said at the end of the bed and talked to me and then I woke up He became your sleep paralysis
Starting point is 00:24:08 You were your grandpa He gave his sleep for him This was in a completely pleasant way This wasn't a scary way at all What was the conversation? It was just me saying That I'm afraid I'm gonna miss him And he said it
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's not gonna be forever He said shut the fuck a loser he said dude you're still a hell of gay right now damn
Starting point is 00:24:35 dude you're gay is a hell yeah I'm a miss you grandpa yeah yeah no
Starting point is 00:24:45 yeah that's that's what I was gonna say they were they were whatever I'd go to my my buddy's house
Starting point is 00:24:50 and his grandma would be like ah there's a little boy in the closet. And we kept thinking that it was one of our
Starting point is 00:24:57 friends that was like, like, what? We go in there, nothing is there. So the freak is out, she's like, oh, she was sitting around a long time. It just turned out. She was like a horrible alcohol. She just was like a super drunk of, Smitten off. Just like, I saw him last night. When you get older, you're like,
Starting point is 00:25:15 there's no way. Hold on. An old woman said there's a boy in the closet, and your first thought was, must be one of my pals hiding in grandma's closet. You hang around. You're goofing around. You're saying there'd be a large group of guys. Yeah. A big hangout. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's like, was Lance a back back? That's what I thought you were saying. It's like, oh, he gets in old women's closets all the time. Pete around grandma's outfits. Yeah. Yeah. But she just drank herself into imagining. Oh, my gosh. There was one time we were sitting there.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Not even joking. She's like, you ask on pizza? You're like, sure. That crazy bitch took out a cookie sheet at 450 degrees that had two toitinos pieces on it. Fully cooked. She did, Mm, Canadian bacon.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Like what? She looked at the tortilla pizzas. Grab the cookie sheet with her bare hand. Oh. Sizzling. She set it on the oven, didn't flinch. Didn't move a goddamn muscle. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:26:18 Mm, Canadian bacon. She did never touch the pizzas once. Only the cookie sheet. She lifted her fingers. that's that she touched it. She was just drunk out of her mind. Out of her gourd.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Gosh. Hey, ripped to her too, though, dude. She's gone. She actually, she visited me in my dream. She said, I got, like,
Starting point is 00:26:39 tons of pussy and stuff. Okay. Opposite of my stuff. Okay. You should learn something from your friend. You know, it's funny. I've told, like,
Starting point is 00:26:55 ten people that story, and everyone of them's like, that's so sweet. And then you come along. You gotta be misremembering, dude. Yeah. He said some fuck that. Yeah. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:27:05 A few days passed with the persistent sounds. I would have forgotten about it had I not opened my eyes late one night. I had just heard the creaking sound. I rolled over to look across the bed. Saw another person right next to me. My heart leapt into my throat and my stomach sank. She was facing away from me and her long hair ran down her back. He was wearing a white nightgown.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I laid on the bed paralyzed and watched her too afraid to move too afraid to scream she rocked back and forth for a few minutes before getting up slowly the bed creaked she moved into a sitting position she had her hands in front of her face she sat in that position for a few minutes before she got up and moved towards the door she moved slowly when she reached the door her hand extended towards the door She didn't open it. He just phased through the door and it moved slightly with her passing through it.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I didn't sleep for the rest of the night. That's interesting. All the sounds you heard, the creaking on the bed, the door bumping is her doing that same path every night. When was the nightgown? Early 1900s. I mean, it's been traditionally a thing for probably several centuries,
Starting point is 00:28:23 but they kind of phased out of popularity around like early 1900s, I'd say. At what point do they stop shifting from nightgowns to like, I don't know, like somebody would see it like Walmart with like cookie monster sweatpants? Well, cookie monster sweatpants came later. You know what talking about though? Yeah. You think it's 100 years from now? It's just like, yeah, I woke and there was a morbidly obese woman with cookie monster sweatpants and a Captain America shirt.
Starting point is 00:28:51 She faced to the door. I'm saying like there's got to be at a point there's going to be a shift. I feel like I feel like we should cut this. imagine there's a lot of fellas waking up to that right now. As I roll around on the floor like fucking,
Starting point is 00:29:11 what that fucking slug? Gorb Galape Galape or the fuck is that? I'm the Gulpgallaba, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody's listening with their AirPods. They just look over next to him.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Oh, damn. It's just a single. Dear old southern. Nom-n-nom-n-nom-nom-n-nom-n-nom. I spent the next couple of nights sleeping upstairs in the guest room. I lied and told my parents that it was too cold downstairs. I knew I couldn't tell them what I saw.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They were already worried about my adjustment to a new city. They didn't need to think that I was going crazy. I stayed in the guest room for a few nights before they began to get suspicious and started asking if anything was wrong. I went to bed in my room the next night, and I saw her again. I didn't just see her.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I heard her as well. I tried to stay up that night, but I eventually drifted off. Because I was about to really go under. I became aware. So it was just like, Boo-doo-doo. He said Russ Ronald.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm trying to find my fault, like whispering. Like, we can hear all of it, dude. Like, he's like, oh, God's a boating room. I mean, I've been ignoring it, but it sounds like... I can't, I'm but trying to. It sounds like a raccoon going through a trash can. Just new equipment flipping over for no reason. Stop getting scattered.
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Starting point is 00:33:46 I opened my eyes, and she was there in my bed. She was still rocking slightly, and I realized what the sound I was hearing. He was crying softly. She was doing her best to stifle her sobs, but they were just barely audible. I should have been scared, but as I listened to her pitiful bawling, felt nothing but sympathy. She rose to a sitting position and wept for a few minutes before leaving my room. I managed to go to sleep a few hours later on the floor next to my bed. The idea of waking up in the middle of the night and seeing her facing me, dead eyes looking
Starting point is 00:34:23 right into mine, was a terrifying thought. She didn't seem to be aware that there was someone else in bed with her, and I had no intention of making her aware of my presence. I slept on the uncomfortable floor in front of the heater the rest of the night. She appeared every night in my room for the next week. She always repeated the same motions. At the end of the week, I decided to try and make contact with her. I was beginning to feel like a voyeuristic creep watching her at her most raw and unguarded moment.
Starting point is 00:34:55 She appeared, let her cry for a few minutes, before slowly reaching out my hand. A trembling hand slowly crept across the bedsheets. I was terrified that I might get her attention and provoke her wrath. I drew closer and closer to her shoulder. I blew out a latent sigh and reached forward only to see my fingers slid right through her. It was the oddest sensation I ever experienced in my life. My mind told me that I wasn't feeling anything, but it still felt like I had touched her. Later when I was older, I would come across an article explaining,
Starting point is 00:35:31 phantom limb syndrome. Talked about how amputees would sometimes feel sensations in their lost limb, despite the fact that it was no longer there. I think that's the closest analogy I can come up with. I was feeling something that was not there, or at least, no longer there. It's like when you play VR games and when you get hurt, you feel it in real life. It's like Phantom pain, like Metal Gear Solid 5. It's like what I'm in a VR chat room and say my name.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's like what I'm in a VR chat room and someone walks through me and it hurts extremely bad. My attempt at contact galvanized me. I shot out of the bed and walked around to the other side. She had just risen to a sitting position and was now facing me. She was a few years older than me. If I had a guess, I would say she was 16 or 17. She had relatively plain features, but there is an endearing quality to her simple style. I was shocked and a little embarrassed to be thinking of her like that.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I was busy mentally castigating myself when she stood up and moved right through me. If trying to touch her was discomforting, feeling her passed through me was the oddest sensation I ever felt. I had to sit down and catch my breath, still my heart. The next night I tried to make contact again, but met with the same results. Instead of watching her leave the room and make the sound of the door bumping against its frame, I decided that I had to follow her. I had to figure out what happened to her. She moved slowly through the basement, but wasn't heading in the direction of the stairs.
Starting point is 00:37:14 He was instead heading towards the boiler room. I followed her to the door, but as soon as I got within reach of the handle, I felt my blood turned cold, my skin prickled. She phased through the door, and I stood outside. I was afraid of what might happen to me when I entered that room. I was more worried what I would find when there. I didn't enter the boiler room until a week before class began. I won't lie.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Those first few months in Kalamazoo, Michigan, were some of the loneliest of my life. My friends back in Simsbury, Connecticut, were moving on with their lives, and I felt like I was being left behind, left alone. I didn't have any friends in Kalamazoo yet, and to tell you the truth, I was beginning to see this nightly wraith as a companion, kindred spirit. She was alone and sad just like me. Every night, I would wake up to the sound of her suffering, and I would follow her to the boiler room. A week before class began, for me, I entered the boiler room with her.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'd stood outside the door for a few minutes, trying to steal myself for what I might see. My entire body was screaming at me to run back to my room and never go near that boiler room again. but I had to know what happened next. I drew in a deep breath and blew it out. I grasped the doorknob and turned it. The door swung into the room and I was at eye level with her feet. He swayed back and forth like a pendulum, powered by her frantic kicking in an attempt to find some purchase.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I stifled the scream when I realized that she wasn't levitating like a ghost. She was hanging from a beam in the ceiling. clearly she took her on life when she was actually alive. Yeah, when this house was older, she was depressed and then one night couldn't take it anymore and went to the boiler room and did that.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Do you think that she's depressed and she's just reenacting it or do you think that she's depressed from the after math? I think since it's the same effect over and over, it's like a death echo, like someone reliving the last moment of their life over and over.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They're just on repeat. Yeah, like a cycle of sorts. I left the room and went back to my bed. There was nothing more I could do and I had no intention of spending any more time than necessary in that boiler room. I laid in bed and slowly curled up into a fetal position. I prided myself in not being the kind of person who cried openly, but at that moment the floodgates broke and I wept.
Starting point is 00:39:43 My throat felt raw. My eyes stung with tears. I sobbed for a few moments before I realized I was not alone. She was in bed across for me and weeping in that same position she had always been in. I tried to find out who she was but the realtor was tight-lipped about the house's previous occupants and wasn't interested in chatting.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I pressed her for more information and she finally caved and confessed to not really knowing too much about the house's history. I went to the library I failed to do what? It's just funny, it's like I pressed the realtor she didn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:40:15 All right, fine, I don't know nothing. You know what I mean? It's like, why would you not just say that for the beginning? I'll talk. I'm not sure. I went to the library, but I failed to turn up any information when reading a book on the history of the area. I even tried asking the neighbors about the previous owners, but the two families that lived there before ours didn't have a daughter or only had an infant daughter when they occupied the house. I had no idea about the girl who appeared every night and hung herself in the boiler room.
Starting point is 00:40:46 It was now a routine for me. I'd wake up in the middle of the night around the time she would appear. I was ashamed to admit it, but sometimes I found myself waiting for her. I was hopeful that someday I would break through and tell her what I had wanted to say ever since I saw her. I would tell her that she didn't deserve the fate she was suffering. I would tell her how lonely I was, how desperate I was for someone to talk to. I would tell her, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I always stayed behind when she left the room. I had walked into the boiler room during the day once, and I saw her hanging there. She was gasping and clawing desperately at her neck as she slowly asphyxiated. rocked back and forth in the room and her feet frantically kicked around looking for some purchase to save herself. I did scream then. I had to make up a story about seeing a shadow for my mom when she came up downstairs and saw me pale as a ghost and shivering. I started class and began to make some new friends. I even had a few classmates over to hang out. I remember one time we were playing a video game and the girl passed right through him on her way to the
Starting point is 00:41:49 boiler room. My friends couldn't see her nor my parents. Only I could. I wondered for a bit if I was going crazy and that was why only I could see her. But I'm not sure that's the case. Well, at least not going crazy back then. She was repeating, always reliving her last moments. She would start out weeping on the bed. Then she would rise to a sitting position for a bit before going to the boiler room and hanging herself. This happened almost every night, but on a few occasions, I did catch her walking through the doors on the way to her demise during the day. I must have seen her hundreds, no, thousands of times during my time in Kalamazoo. Sometimes I would try and talk to her. Sometimes I would cry.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Sometimes I would do nothing. It took me a few years to try and figure it all out, but I finally did. I realized what she was doing. I realized what the afterlife was like. There isn't a heaven or a hell, at least not in the literal sense. There are only those last few moments of your life, reiterating like a broken record. She was reliving those final moments, maybe trying to make sense of it all. Maybe she wanted to choose another path, but in the end, she always came around full circle
Starting point is 00:43:07 to the noose in the boiler room. This is why the concept of death scares me so much. H.P. Lovecraft said the oldest emotion is fear, and the most powerful of all fears is our fear of the unknown. I think he's wrong about that. I know what's waiting for us all when we die, and that is the scariest thought I can think of. I'm so terrified that when I die, I will stay behind on this earth, repeating my last moments ad nauseum. Trying to make sense of my last minutes. This is what is waiting for us all after it is all set and done. done. And I know that the end is inevitably approaching. The end of ad nauseum.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Do you think that these stories are going to be connected through? Yeah, I think it's going to be the same person. Do you mean the same ghost or is it just going to be this is his encounter with this? It's probably going to be different encounters if I had to guess. So the title ad nauseum at a mortimer and infinum is kind of the idea that like, again, with what we said it being like, you know, to the point of sickness, to the point of death forever. It's like repeating your last moments on and on and on without fail.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So I think we're going to see other examples of that. Seems like also this concept of like the afterlife that he's saying almost feels like a purgatory, like our definition of purgatory, you know. Reliving. They're kind of existing in the state of just like perpetual. Scared me. Knocking over that toilet really got to you, huh? This tiny little toilet.
Starting point is 00:44:42 you what the fuck oh my god it's a skibbitty toilet no it's not it is it is a scivity toilet can his head not pop out you have to hit the flasher well the flusher pushes him down what is there a button or a lever
Starting point is 00:45:08 somewhere to make him go oh at the base of the toilet that is the scariest thing that's happened since we got here that pushes his head down what kind of monster left little sally a skippity toilet.
Starting point is 00:45:33 See, this is the, this is the cookie monster sweatpants or it's like sweatpants with a bunch of Buddhas on it and it says
Starting point is 00:45:40 built like a Buddha or that's one of our audience members. If one of our audience members left the Skibbitty toilet scroll down a little
Starting point is 00:45:50 bit hit the end subscribe of it 100% all right, add mortem. Add mortem. I do agree
Starting point is 00:45:58 with you about the feels like a penance really I like his way of also adding in the ad nauseum. Like that's my fear of doing this ad nauseum. It's kind of the fun little tie in.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I'm curious to see how. Being stuck in that forever. Yeah. The last moment, yeah. Admortem. He sounds like what like a, what is it,
Starting point is 00:46:15 a clairvoyance? Is that somebody who can talk to the dead? Like, clairvoyance have the natural ability to see the dead or the other side. That's what I'm like wondering. It seems like this character is like that kind of person. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Admortem. I was just started my job. junior year in high school when my grandfather came to visit. He was my father's father, and he had lived in California most of his life. He used to smoke like a chimney, but a few years back,
Starting point is 00:46:42 he was diagnosed with lung cancer. He was put on oxygen and had to give up smoking, which did nothing to improve his cantankerous nature. He lived across the country, but had come up to Michigan to visit with my family. My relationship with my grandpa was always strained. If you wanted to be pleasant, you would say that he was an old-fashioned man. If you wanted to be honest, you would say that he was a racist and a sexist who used to beat his children when they disobeyed him. My father was always honest about how he was treated by him when he was growing up, and because I loved my father, I found my relationship with my grandfather to be adversarial. He originally had come up to visit for a week, but due to health issues, he ended up staying in Michigan for over a year to be cared for.
Starting point is 00:47:31 My grandfather's extended stay only served to put a strain on our relationship. We rarely talked, and when we did, I managed a conversation in the coldest fashion. Since my grandfather was suffering from lung cancer, yet carry around an oxygen tank. Manufacturers must have had a sense of humor because they named the gargantuan machine the Liberator. The tank was 100 or so pounds and set in a corner by the entrance of the house. The oxygen cord gave my grandpa 500 feet to move around the house. Saw the Liberator as a massive ball and chain that anchored him to the guest room, kitchen, bathroom, the dining room. Grandfather was suffering from lung cancer.
Starting point is 00:48:15 He had to take a regimen of pills to keep himself going day to day. Blood pressure medication, broncholidilators, opioids, and about a dozen other supplements. elements and vitamins. The cancer had rotted away his lungs to the point that the oxygen was necessary to keep him alive. He could barely move without gasping for breath, and when he talked, it came out as a rasp. The sounds of his respirator clicking on and off and his wheezing gasped became a fixture of our everyday life. We'd been living here in Kalamazoo, Michigan for about three years before my grandfather came to live with us. At this time, I was accustomed to my nocturnal and sometimes diurnal visitor, who wept in my room before proceeding to the boiler room and hanging herself.
Starting point is 00:49:00 My latest attempt to contact her was through a Ouija board. Stuck one of my friends into the house through the emergency fire escape the basement had, which was just a ladder built in an alcove that led outside. She believed that there were ghosts and that only a select few were attuned enough to see them. I didn't tell her about my encounters. I only hinted that I thought there was something paranormal happening in my room. She snuck in during the night and brought her board with her. We both sat on my bed and put our hands on the Ouija board.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I lit a few candles to set the mood. She said quietly, afraid to wake my parents. Spirits of this house, we beseech thee. I always wondered why people thought ghosts talk like serfs from medieval times, even if they died well after it. If you were trying to contact your loved one, would you talk to you talk to you? to them like you were a 1920s gangster. Yeah, you see?
Starting point is 00:49:53 I love you, I miss you every day, Pops. She continued. If there's anyone here besides us, move the planchette and make us aware of your presence. Recept for a few moments with our fingers on the planchette. After nothing happened, she took her hands away and said, I guess the noises you've been hearing was just the house settling. Cracked a smile because out of the corner of my eyes,
Starting point is 00:50:16 I could see the wraith weeping on my bed. A friend was only a few inches away from the ghostly girl who haunted the basement of my home and couldn't even see her. Talked for a bit, and then she left. I walked her back to her house and told her good night. When I snucked back into my house, the sound of my grandfather's respirator filled my ears and covered up any noise I might have made sneaking into my room. A couple weeks passed, my grandfather's condition deteriorated.
Starting point is 00:50:43 He was now confined to the guest room. barely talk and when he managed, he had to pause between sentences to catch his breath. Sometimes when he overexerted himself, his body was wracked with congested coughs and wheezing rafts. My mother took care of him because my father was working and I was at school. Out of everyone in the house, my mother's relationship with my grandfather was probably the best. She went out and picked up his prescriptions, cooked food for him, kept in company, and changed his sheets. As per his traditionalism, he treated her more like a servant than a person. Quest were commands and demands.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Despite this, my mom treated him with kindness and compassion. Remember the last time I saw my grandfather. I was getting ready for school and he was telling her that he was going to rest and asked if she could pick up his prescription. He now spent most of his time in bed and was developing bed sores and had to use a bedpan to relieve himself. He had a coughing fit and he covered his mouth with a handker. I think that I saw something red staining that handkerchief, but I realize that that little observation that I make now is tainted by the memory of what happened to him later.
Starting point is 00:51:53 When I returned home that day, I knew something was wrong the moment I walked through the door. There was something off about the house. There was something missing. It took me a moment to realize what it was. The house was completely quiet. The omnipresent sound of the respirator pumping oxygen was no longer present. The Liberator sat in the corner, silent like the grave. I went upstairs to find my mother in the guest room,
Starting point is 00:52:17 stripping the bed sheets and pillowcases. She had been crying, but wasn't at that moment. My mom didn't have to say the words, but she did anyways. He died. His heart just stopped. There's nothing that I could have done. I pulled her into a hug and she broke into a fresh set of tears. Offered to help her wash the bed sheets, but she told me it wasn't necessary.
Starting point is 00:52:39 This part may make me seem like a horrible person, but I was glad she turned down my offer. My grandfather died, it evacuated, and the smell was horrible. She washed the sheets as best she could, but ended up throwing everything away. My father took the news, like any son would take the news of his father's death. I don't know what I was expecting from him. For some reason, I thought he would be angry. Angry at the fact that his father had never told him goodbye, never told him that he loved him, or that he was proud of him.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He wasn't angry. It was just quiet for a while. He didn't cry at that moment, but I remember going upstairs from the basement and hearing the soft, flushed sounds of him crying in the night. I tried to take my grandfather's death as stoically as possible.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I didn't cry until the funeral, and then the floodgates broke and I wept as they lowered him in the ground. He may have been a racist, sexist, abusive old man, but he was still my grandfather. He was family, and he was gone. The worst thought I had was the realization that even though I loved my grandfather, because he was family, I didn't like him. The next month was relatively quiet.
Starting point is 00:53:47 My mom and dad dealt with getting his affairs in order and tending to his will. I can't tell you exactly when they started, but I can tell you when I first became aware of the sounds. I was sneaking outside a night to have a cigarette, and I thought my mind was playing tricks on me. I'd become so accustomed to the sound that it took me a few seconds to realize, what was wrong. I was hearing the worrying and hissing of the liberator. We had donated the oxygen system a week ago to the nursing home. I paused in the darken hallway and listened. It was a slow and steady sound. Listening to that noise chilled my blood and made my stomach sink. It must have stopped still and waited for that sound to stop for a few minutes. Didn't stop. If anything, the sound grew louder.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I lied to myself and said it was a trick my mind was playing on me. I went downstairs back to my bedroom and passed by the ghost girl as she proceeded to her death. I kept lying to myself for the next couple of days as the noise of the liberator got progressively louder and was joined by something almost undetectable. The respirator kept going throughout the day. This wasn't like the wraith girl, who's weeping only manifested at certain times. The noise was a constant and it was growing louder. It took me a few days to really begin to hear the wheezing and gasping beneath the worrying of the liberator. I avoided the guest room at all cost.
Starting point is 00:55:13 It was quite a simple thing. There was nothing in there except for the sounds of gasping and wheezing. To be completely honest, I was afraid to enter that room. I could live with seeing the image of the girl in the basement, but I wasn't so sure I could accept seeing the ghost of my grandfather reliving his last moments. I avoided it for a few months before finally, succumbing to the curious. curiosity. It was my senior year then,
Starting point is 00:55:38 and I was just wrapping up with graduation parties. Okay. Sorry. My dick turned it off. I pressed it up against right now. You press the camera
Starting point is 00:55:53 up against your dick and it turned it off? Holy fuck. Way to break the momentum. That was a fucking I was so locked in. My dick turned it off. Good fucking Lord.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Just keep breathing. Just keep breathing. I'm only here for a couple days. I'm only here for a couple days. I'm only here for a couple days. I get to see my family again. I get to see my family again. There's no place like Cambuselu.
Starting point is 00:56:18 There's no place like Camboozza. There's no place like Columbia. There's no place like Columbia. It was my senior year then and I was just wrapping up with graduation parties. I had had quite a bit to drink that night, but was still capable of driving. Pulled into my driveway and thought struck me. The thought was. that I had to see him before I left home for college in a few months.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I had to face the ghost of my grandfather if I wanted to move on with my life. I went into the house and approached the guest room. I wasn't prepared for what I would see, and I don't think I ever could be. I stood outside the guest room for a few moments, trying to steal myself for what I would see next. I listened to the methodical whirring of the oxygen tank and the discordant gasps and coughs that broke through the rhythm. The more I listened, the more I found my resolve weakening. Another couple of minutes, and I knew that I would completely lose the will to investigate, so I swung open the door and stepped into the room.
Starting point is 00:57:18 My eyes took a few seconds to adjust to the darkness. Curtains had been closed to the moonlight, giving the room a sepricle feel to it. The room had grown musty and smelled like mothballs in stagnant air. The wheezing and gasping was louder now. It's just in my mind now, but when I recall this moment, I could have sworn that the rasping and haggard-sounding breaths were almost deafening. My eyes adjusted enough to see the shade of something on the bed. My eyes adjusted to the light, and I could see him clearly. The spirit or echo, my grandfather, was on the bed.
Starting point is 00:57:57 His body writhed spasmodically on the sheets. It looked like he was having a seizure or stroke or some sort. His hands clawed at the air in front of his face. This motion looked out of place until I realized that he was probably trying to adjust the respirator on his face. He writhed in the bed for a few more minutes before he fell still. He was dead. The room was silent. Turned around and left the room.
Starting point is 00:58:24 As the door closed behind me, sound of frantic gasping and wheezing started up again. Man, talk about a nightmare, just living through choking. like the respirator falling off forever and ever. It's just only happening at his house. It doesn't seem like any of the clear violence happens outside of the house. Well, these are the only two places.
Starting point is 00:58:46 There's the only two people that died because it's in the place that they died. It's repeated over and over. Well, I just don't know if it's like, because people have fucking died everywhere. I just didn't know if he's... Realistically, he would be walking around and see like medieval era people.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Or I just mean like you believe in the story so far that he is actually seeing other people outside of this, but we're just hearing about the occasions in the house. No, I think. I think this is all you've seen so far. Okay. But realistically, yes, if you walked around anywhere,
Starting point is 00:59:17 you would see the remnants of something, someone killing someone for some reason. Car wrecks everywhere. Just every straight car. Oh, my God. The night before heading off to college, I rolled over my bed and watched the nightly visitor to my bedroom. She rocked slightly in the bed and wept quietly.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It torrent me to know that she was doing her best to keep quiet. Who was she hiding her depression from? Why couldn't she ask for help? What didn't I? She was tragically young. I leaned over to her and whispered to her. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Much else left to say.
Starting point is 00:59:55 To college the next day. DeVry University. Full sale technology. I'm going to MIT. I'm sorry I can't take you with me. I went to National American University. You want to cry on my bed at MIT? Would you like that?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I went to Phoenix Online. I went to DeFri University. Time dredged on in my first semester of college was going well. Did it have any ghostly encounters in the dorm, which was a plus. I don't think I would have managed to focus with the spirit of someone constantly dying from alcohol poisoning and frat initiation's gone wrong. I had friends, but in a sad way, I found myself waking up in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 01:00:41 wanting to see, to talk to her, talk at her at least. November rolled around and I decided to drive home and be with the family for Thanksgiving. I wish I'd just stayed at college. I arrived the day before Thanksgiving and proceeded to catch up with my parents. My mom even rushed outside of hugging as I pulled into the driveway.
Starting point is 01:01:01 My old man greeted me with a beer, and we sat on the deck as I filled them in on my life at college. My first semester wasn't over with yet, but I was already adjusted to life at college. It was one of the happier moments of my life. Reminiscing about it now leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. We had a good dinner, and I settled down for bed. I was getting ready to drift off to sleep when I heard the sounds
Starting point is 01:01:25 I had become so familiar with when I was a child. Open my eyes and faced the crying girl. I thought of all the usual platitudes that I used to offer to her. You were too young. You had so many moments ahead of you. You could have been happy. I wanted to tell her all of these things. Something else was on my mind.
Starting point is 01:01:47 The thought was that something wasn't right. It felt like I was overlooking something deathly important. It was something that I couldn't make sense of until I saw him one more time. I moved upstairs and went to the guest room. The respirator was still clicking on and off and he was still gasping out his last minutes in that room. Trepidation filled me. My whole body was screaming at me to turn around and my mind was begging the same. I knew if I entered that room and witnessed my grandfather's death again that I would never be the same.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I entered the room anyways and I wish to this very day that I'd never tried to save that curiosity. He was still on the bed. gasping, Klein, and struggling in his final moments. I moved close to him and sat on the bed. His body writhed and twisted on the sheets. I knew something was off about all of this. Something in the back of my mind pushed me forward. I leaned in close and watched it all carefully.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I watched as my grandfather clawed at the empty air in front of his face. Something was off about all of this. It wasn't clawing at the respirator. when I realized what it was I knew I had no other choice I went downstairs and grabbed my suitcase flight the house
Starting point is 01:03:07 oh that's pretty cool I don't know whether that's happening his father it's on his respirator fell off someone choked him to death oh you think he's someone strangled him his dad strangled him
Starting point is 01:03:22 his dad or his mom yeah well the mentions the dad loved him but when he gets home, mom's already changing the sheets. Oh shit. She's emotional. And it talks about how the grandfather would command her all the time,
Starting point is 01:03:36 treat her more like a maid than a daughter-in-law, and then he gets home and she's already cleaned up. Jesus. Okay. Yeah. So I think his mom killed her. That's pretty cool that you're going to put that together from the echo of the death. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I debated whether or not to wake up my parents and let them know why I was leaving and why I would not return. Okay, maybe he hasn't put together. I'm pretty sure it's his mom. I think that why they wouldn't return. I think he knows that like, hey, you killed this person. Maybe that's why he's not returning. Well, he says, I wouldn't wake them up to let them know. Well, yeah, he's not going to wait them up and be like, hey, I know what you did.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I think it's what he's saying. At least that's how I'm reading it. Okay. I debated whether or not to wake up my parents and let them know why I was leaving and why I would not return. And call me a coward, but I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't face them with that knowledge. I threw my suitcase in the trunk of my car and drove to the nearest bar. I never needed to drink more than I never needed to drink more than I
Starting point is 01:04:26 did at that very moment. I wanted something to give me the liquid courage to leave Kalamazoo, to leave my family. I was almost in tears by the time I reached the dive bar. I swallowed back my emotions, entered the bar and set at the stool closest to the bartender. It was a dive, the kind of place that had sawdust on the floor to soak up sweat, spills, and skull spit. I wasted no time in getting the bartender's attention. I ordered a double shot of whiskey and downed it as soon as the drink was poured. Ordered another, another, and another. It's midnight rolled around, and they were preparing for last call.
Starting point is 01:05:04 They decided to perform their night before Thanksgiving tradition. The bartender would go around and ask what everyone was thankful for this season, give them a free shot at the cheapest liquor they had offered for their response. An old man in the corner said, A young patron who was probably too young to be drinking, shouted, Yolo. It was promptly denied. a shot. A woman around my age declares,
Starting point is 01:05:28 For life in its adventures. Down the drink. Spanish couple had a booth declared, Our familia. Continued around the bar until he at last came to me. Bartender came around to me and he asked. What are you most thankful for? Pause for a moment. I didn't know what to say. Bartender tapped his foot, ready to wrap up last call and finished their night.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I had to say something. I couldn't think of anything I was grateful for. It's not in the right headspace I only wanted to drink the memory away He grunted Come on buddy, what are you grateful for? He said the first thing that popped into my head And mortem
Starting point is 01:06:05 God fuck off What a fucking dork I'd be like And you're not getting a shot See you later Hey see you later Dead Poet Society What's at Mortem?
Starting point is 01:06:22 It's death To death Yeah, yeah. What are you grateful for it to death? Yeah. I watched the bartender's quizzical expression as I down the shot and ordered another. I'd have ordered another after that one, but in some part deep down inside of me, I knew that I would never erase that image from my mind.
Starting point is 01:06:40 The image of my grandfather clon at something in front of his face. The thought of the pillow over him that my mother had been holding down, smothering him in his sleep. The memory of her disposing of the bed sheets and the pillow case a day I returned home. from school only made me feel worse i tossed back the shot and left the bar not knowing what to do next i felt sick to death that's a fun time too i like that i felt sick to death because his grandpa was so sick to death is ad nauseam ad mortim oh is it oh there you're sickness to death yeah the uh yeah that is that is fun the uh a fun little twist there too yeah you just expected to be him clawing and gasping for air life like with his ventilating machine, but it's almost a weird, uh, the mention earlier of like
Starting point is 01:07:29 he's client in front of his face and you're like, oh, I guess that's a choking motion. Yeah. But realizing it's a pillow. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. And it's also, I wonder how cathartic it is for the, it's like all these feelings of just being like the things you wish you could have said or like all the things you wish you could have
Starting point is 01:07:44 done. The dad's talking about how abusive he was and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And it's the mom that ends up killing him. Yeah. It's pretty sick. So, yeah. I think that's a pretty cool time.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I like the idea of being able. It's very sick. sense being able to piece together, you know, someone's final moments, what happened to them by their ghost. Well, speaking of ghosts, you know, a little Sally down in the basement, she was killed.
Starting point is 01:08:09 All her, all her things. Downstairs they have literally surgical tools. They have surgical tools. They took out her appendix. And they have a table. And she's talked at all. They're like, this is like the table where she died on. What do you think of the,
Starting point is 01:08:22 what, do you think it's an ethical thing to have that kind of stuff? No. Or does it matter? No. Well. Because it's been so much time. If it was last year that it happened, I think people are like, that's poor taste.
Starting point is 01:08:32 But because it's so long ago, you're like, who gives a fuck? No, I didn't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, is that the thought process? To me, the thought process is, will their family see it? And I'm not talking about like great grandkids and stuff like that. I'm talking about like, well, they're sisters, their son, their mother, stuff like that. It's such a weird attachment from like a human.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It is. It is. But to me, that's like, like history for. example, right? If you were to have, Pompeii is a great example where we have all the frozen bodies of Pompeii. When you think about how morbid that is, oh sure, you know, like if that happened last year, imagine there's an earthquake this year. And then in 27, there's a museum you can go to of the petrified bodies from the airport. Well, that's what it feels like fucking, I mean, I don't really go on Twitter, but perusing Twitter during like the Ukraine
Starting point is 01:09:20 war, that feels just as people dying on both sides. That feels pretty crazy. All the drone footage and all that kind of shit. It's just like, here's death, here's death, here's death. And to that one, there's even something to my head where it's like, well, you're at war with them. So they're the enemy and stuff like that. So there is a layer in my brain that detaches it a little bit. But when it comes to like with this house, a child, right, to me, time does heal it enough that you can be. Now, is the way it's presented respectful?
Starting point is 01:09:51 No, but I think it's pretty. I mean, the whole thing to, like making sure. sure that you know that she was like in total misery and kind of have yeah i don't know how respectful it is it feels weird yeah well i think you feel respectful or does it feel like a horror gimmick for people what do you guys think i think yeah people want something tangible to make the connection even if they know it's a prop so i think it's a museum it's like the holocaust museum wouldn't say it's anything really like that i don't think this all right at infinem this is the holocaust museum to you
Starting point is 01:10:24 Add infinitum. We can keep talking. We can keep reading. This is the Holocaust. The dolls everywhere. Anytime Nick speaks, it's an assault to someone. Turns off his camera. Body cam, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:39 With his cock. And has to publicly tell people to. A lot of people I feel like would just be like, oh, oops, yeah, sorry, turned off. And he's like, yeah, my dick turned it off. You can't stop this guy. It pressed into it. Also, also.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Also, you speak about your cock as if it has his own mind. It pressed into it I begged it not to I wouldn't be surprised with him Oh my god, no Well should we finish it off with add infinim Ad infinum The final part
Starting point is 01:11:04 So we now reached the conclusion My third act My exeant stage left God dude I feel like This is he's like You know I went to college
Starting point is 01:11:15 I didn't have a lot of friends Well not really It's like yeah probably because you're saying shit like this Like ad mornum Oh hey man Hey man there's like a kegher Having down the road at infinitum.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And you're like, no, actually, we actually just canceled it. Hey, you want to come hang out? Carp DM. I lied, actually. I was going to take off all my clothes and hang myself in my dad's study. Spoiler! Yeah, spoils, spoils, spoils. He didn't hang it.
Starting point is 01:11:50 He shot himself. Did he? I thought he hung himself. Oh, he shot him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, then Red Foreman runs up and he's like, no. And then there's like an incredibly heartbreaking scene where the mom finds him. And he's like, no, he's okay.
Starting point is 01:12:07 He's okay. Well, just grab this. So it's okay. It's like, oh, Paulus Society is a great movie. Yeah. Oh, Captain Mike. That's what this fucking guy would do. Oh, Captain Mike.
Starting point is 01:12:17 He'd be like, hey, man, me and some people are going to go grab some burgers and shakes you want to come with. Oh, Captain Mike. Captain. Actually, never mind. I'm like totally vegetarian now, so. Well, next time you think about me, I love, I love plants. Vegetarians. You're trying to connect with them.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Man, I wish I could still talk and cry next to that crying girl in my bed. Just an insufferable guy through and through. Oh, yeah. In every sense. It's a car. Someone ran by the window really fast. Did you guys hear like dogs? I did hear that.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I heard, well, at first I looked at Harry because I heard, I could have swore I heard somebody say something. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:13:05 That's fucked up. They would do that. That's rude. It's rude to do that. Wait, hold up. I, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Wait, hold on everyone. All right, at infinim. At infinite. Also, too, I will say the beginning of the story making the presence of the girl,
Starting point is 01:13:17 you know, it has, it's put a different vibe on the house so far for me. Because the girl was so innocent and like, you know, because when you go into a haunted space, I feel like I'm on defense,
Starting point is 01:13:28 whatever. but now it's like it has a more sympathetic tone which I should have had what is that? That was someone banging on the window there was someone knocking on the glass yeah check on it that that was someone like bring the camera I'm too scared to go down
Starting point is 01:13:46 yeah we would do it but we're like recording and all right so apparently we're trying to finish us out and apparently somebody's like knocking on the door or something okay oh yeah be careful on the stairs I'm waiting Have a good night. Thank you. It's probably people just fucking with us.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Probably. Well, it works. Just hear Harry get shot in the chest. That would, oh my God. Don't even say that. Yeah. Harry? Did you take the camera?
Starting point is 01:15:09 He's fucking with us. Yeah. That's everyone going down one at a time. The door's kind of still open, too. Somebody definitely came back in and entered the house, right? He's got to be screwing with us. Well, it could have been the door just squeaking. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:42 No, that first one was the one was doing, yeah. No, I meant. He's clearly messing with us, but he's clearly messing with us, but that was a knock. Yeah. But from, not him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was on the glass downstairs. Look out that window.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Because you can see this car out there, right? Well, don't you go down there. Oh, well, I think he'd leave. the door open. Well, I don't care. Just stay up here. Someone else is knocking. What do you think of the story so far? Have you liked it?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yeah, I like it. Like it so far. I think it's just waiting for the pop for the balloon to blow. Yeah, I like it so far. I think it's cool. The idea of this, like, a loner, the coast and stuff like that. We could just
Starting point is 01:17:34 keep reading. Should we? I don't know. I don't know. I might as well. You find it. everyone. What is that? Oh,
Starting point is 01:17:49 Taco Bell. His door dash. Oh, oh. Where did you all go? Maybe he'd meet him all the way down on the corn.
Starting point is 01:17:55 He wouldn't come to the house. What? Who the fuck knocked on the door, though? He knocked. Oh, he did, and then he, oh. He didn't want to be at the house.
Starting point is 01:18:04 He didn't want to be at the house. Yeah. Yeah. He said, all right. We thought you got, that's very, I think we both.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I think we both were getting a little... Well, I thought that you guys were pranking us because Harry goes out and then he never comes back. And then you go look and he was like, oh, Harry left the door but you don't come back. And the Knicks like, I have to go downstairs. Yeah, I mean, after a while, that's what I was like, those motherfuckers are like,
Starting point is 01:18:31 there's some prank, there's going to be some scary thing. But then I was sitting here like, who did they get to knock on the door? The tapping on the window actually fucked me. Yeah. Because it's one thing if all three of you leave and you're pulling a prank, it's another that you've got a fourth.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Alright, get them to show up and tap on the glass. Give me a burrito while you eat this. Yeah. Here, I'll just, I can't eat while I'm reading, so I'll just give you the bag. Perfect. You guys want a burrito? Oh my god, these are so many. I need to.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Oh yeah, one's for Sally too. Oh, yeah, what, hey. Oh shit. Hey, you know what? Pour one out for Sally right now on her carpet. Mmm. Mmm. All right. Mm.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Add infinitum. So we now reach. the conclusion, my third act, my exeant left stage left. I feel like I should rehash my predicament a little. Ever since I was a teenager, I've been able to see things that no one else can. I can see certain spirits.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I don't know why I can see some and not others. I thank God that I can't see every dead spirit. Otherwise, my world would be full of billions of people that died before my time. All right, go. After that. I've only seen a handful of ghosts during my life One being a girl who killed herself in my house
Starting point is 01:19:49 Next be my grandfather who was put out of his suffering by my mother These ghosts always repeat their last moments ad nauseum Had mortum I wish I could say that I managed to bear the burden of what I had learned about my mother The reality was that I just lost control of everything I began I began to laugh and frustrating Is there a Diablo saucer?
Starting point is 01:20:12 No, I forgot It's their Diablo sauce Yeah I'm gonna do all those songs For this BB five video That is It's ironic but I do get it a lot I wish I could say that I managed
Starting point is 01:20:29 To bear This is I'm so bad This really is like a sleepover When you're eight And you're trying to do something And your friend just keeps Doing some BS over in the corner
Starting point is 01:20:42 Damn man this is scary It's like you're trying to play Xbox If there's a one friend like But Monopoly I'm not playing Xbox So we play around a monopoly So captain my captain That's true right now
Starting point is 01:20:56 I wish I could say That I managed to bear the burden Of what I learned about my mother The reality was That I just lost control of everything I began slipping in a downward spiral I tried to finish up the semester strong But the mental image of my mother
Starting point is 01:21:11 pressing a pillow over my grandfather's face and smothering him to death haunted me. I found that drinking doled that thought some, but did not completely obliterate it. I was self-medicating some success, but the memory was constantly needling away at my conscience. Which I will add, of what he says, put him out of his suffering.
Starting point is 01:21:29 It's kind of implying that it was a mercy killing. Yeah. Her killing him that way, so maybe not. Versus her, like, hating him. Yeah. Yeah. For lack of a better term, I became a walking shit show.
Starting point is 01:21:39 They love opening that front door. Just walking in and out. Did they order more DoorDash? There's no way. We got pizza hot, dude. I'm joking. What'd you say? I said, we got pizza hot too.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I like to put the burrito and the Diablo sauce on the pepperoni. It's a Mexican calzone. Oh, there's my computer. Oh, shit. That's what you get. That's so what you get. He just poured water all over it. Oh shit. It's a Mexican calzone.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Buh, bb, bha, bha. It's not working. I think we're okay. Is it still working? Aren't apples pretty good with water resistance? Oh, yeah. Where am I? Where are my breed on it?
Starting point is 01:22:40 Did they only get one Baja blast to share with five people? Well, it's my Baja blast right now. But Hunter made me laugh at it. I was swallowing up my chest is like cramping. Oh. Oh. Shut up. We're in a haunted house right now,
Starting point is 01:23:07 this is very scary. That bear keeps leaning towards you. It moved. No, it did. No, it doesn't shut up. It was, it's leaned forward from where it was earlier. He was like, yeah, he was looking more towards me. He's homing in on Hunter.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Editor. Compare. Compare. Compare the position. I'm telling you. I saw both his eyes. I only see one now. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I can't take it with the... Every time. It's not that good. I've had Taco Bell before. It is not that good. Nick, what's why is this? I don't care. I don't care if we're reading a scary story.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Oh, we fucking keep reading them. Crunchy beef burrito? Oh. I was drinking whiskey like it was the waters of the river lake. See, there you go. It's more stupid being. It's got spitting me off. The memory was more persistent than the ghost themselves.
Starting point is 01:24:12 That reality haunted me day and night. The image of his final moments were branded into my brain. Can you really blame me for getting smashed every opportunity I got? Maybe I'm writing all of this to find someone sympathetic who will listen to me. I don't deserve it. Or maybe I'm writing this to reach out to someone who could talk some sense into me and give me the answers I desperately needed. I wish I could say that I dropped out of college when I realized that I wasn't doing anything
Starting point is 01:24:39 except drinking. But after another round of failing grades, my college politely informed me that I should not return next semester. I didn't bother appealing the decision. I decided not to return home. I crashed with a friend for a couple of weeks while I tried to figure out what to do next. Couldn't bring myself to go back. Couldn't face my mom.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Slept on my friend's couch and drank like a fish thrown into a tank filled with whiskey. I managed to live with my friend for a couple of weeks before he kicked my drunk ass out. He had put up with me for too long. He had spent too many nights cleaning up my messes and turning me on my side when I passed out. He was a good guy, but I think the final straw was my late-night confession about the ghost. I think he could handle an alcoholic hot mess such as myself. but throw in my hallucinations, and that was just too much. He calmly listened to my drunken ramblings and waited until I passed out before stealing my cell phone from me and calling my parents.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I woke up in my bed at home from my blackout. My father was standing in the doorway and my mom was sitting on the bed next to me. She was stroking my hair gently like she used to. I'm going to be honest. What? Liking Taco Bell is performative. Oh, I disagree. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:25:55 You can be okay with it, but like, people who are like, oh, I love talk bell, give me some 2 a.m. Taco Bell. That's performing it. Is it? I kind of disagree with that. Oh, I disagree. Oh, I got them. She whispered to me about how she was here for me and how she was going to get me through this. Is in that moment that I knew that I couldn't confess what I knew about my.
Starting point is 01:26:29 grandfather's death to my father. She was my mother. She was the one I ran to when I hurt myself as a kid. Maybe it was a mercy that she did my grandfather. I decided I would try to turn my life around. If only it were that easy. I'm going to let you in on a few fun facts about giving up drinking after over a year of heavy drinking. First fact being, it's not fun. You sweat like you were trapped in a sauna. You have mild tremors. Out of my peripheral, I can just see him examining the burrito. Turn it over. You're driving me up a wall right now.
Starting point is 01:27:12 These different positions you're getting into the burrito. You're laying on like a bunch of toys that are giving it as ghost. I'm sorry. We're in a ghost girl's like sacred. alter room. You don't have to be comfy. It was funny. It's not funny. Now, it's not funny. Now I'm upset.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Stop turning it over in your hand. You look like the guy in American Beauty. Oh, filming the bag? He doesn't look like that kid, doesn't he? You're like? Yeah, a little bit. Because you have no emotion on your face. You're fucking, like, scaring me, man. I can't read you, man.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You have no emotion on your face. He's like, I have to investigate. First fact being, it's not fun. You sweat like you were trapped in a sauna. You have mild tremors, unless you're a hardcore alcoholic, and then you get DTs, allureum trimmons, which are like severe tremors. I luckily didn't have that, but I did have anxiety,
Starting point is 01:28:41 which was severely compounded by the realization that while I was there sweating, slightly shaking, and otherwise feeling like shit in my bed, the ghost girl was right next to me, weeping. After a few minutes of this, she would get up to go hang herself in the boiler room, and I would make a mad dash to the bathroom to throw a bile. Try to kick my alcoholism. I really did. I really wanted to move on with my life.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I wanted a normal life with stupid, meaningless problems. I just couldn't. I couldn't live at that charnel house. When the girl's weeping wasn't getting to me, the wheezing and groaning of my dying dead grandfather was assaulting my ears. I managed to live at home for a few months before I fled and went up to Grand Rapids, Michigan. It only took a couple of days living by myself, with myself, before I downed a bottle, Johnny Walker. My parents tried to get me to come home, but I couldn't go back to that place. I managed to convince them to let me stay as long as I called them weekly to keep them in the loop.
Starting point is 01:29:40 My father even managed to get me a job outside of town. I worked weekdays, cleaning animal cages for a pharmaceutical company. It was the most glamorous of jobs, but it paid well enough to support my necessities and me. Fortunately, drinking heavily had become one of those necessities. I managed to keep my habits under control for a month or so. I would work on the weekday, 7 to 5, and then while away, my weekends, a whiskey-washed stupor. I found some friends along the way, some at work, and a few of the bars I frequent at,
Starting point is 01:30:10 I was just getting a sense of normalcy in my life when everything fell apart. It all started with a phone call. It was the simplest of things. One of my routine calls to my parents. We chatted about the usual things. I caught them up on my work, friends, and life in general. I was talking to my mom, and she mournfully said, Your grandfather would have been soon.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I have a mouthful. This is incredible. This is really, this is an amazing performance. on her. Do you want the rest of the Baja? No, I'm okay. Your grandfather would have been 78 today. As soon as those I love your first tip. Your grandfather
Starting point is 01:30:53 would have been. As soon as those words were uttered, I heard something click and began pumping a familiar sound through the phone. It was the sound of the Liberator. John Hawks I hear the shit on me.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Andrew, you have got to make this watchable. I do not. It was the sound of the Liberator, the giant oxygen tank that my grandfather. It died. Okay. All right, that's better. It died.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Trevor. Can I get another camera? What? Can I get another camera? What happened? Just, it's been a hole. how to add Invenom
Starting point is 01:31:49 is truly testing us right now oh god keep going the story's good oh yeah good yep what's that
Starting point is 01:31:58 it's a bunch of Diablo sauce really I got you sauce how did you get sauce we just went there the Taco Bell is that close at the Sally house
Starting point is 01:32:10 yeah surprisingly close there's all the sawday that's very kind of you it's very kind of you Harry and I found a lot of very creepy old buildings out around here are bought. Yeah, we're gonna get some. I would do anything in my life to finish this story.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Are you not enjoying it? I think it's pretty good. No, it's good. I'm just saying like I just want it's like I'm so ready for it. I do feel like I'm in an echo right now like looping. I'm in Sally's echo. I think I said, all right, now at Infidim six times. I think six times I tried to start.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I heard something click and began pumping a familiar sound through the phone. It was the sound of the Liberator, a giant oxygen tank that my grandfather owned, which my parents had donated to a nursing home long ago. Sunday became a terrible thing for me. It was the day my parents would call. I'd spend the week dreading the time they would call. I knew it was them before they even spoke.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Sound of the respirator droning became almost deafening to me. I had asked my mom and dad to speak. cuff went talking to me so I could hear them over the sound of the liberator. They became increasingly concerned over my erratic behavior and eventually invited me home for dinner. I turned them down, lying and saying that I already had plans. I knew that if I stepped foot in that house with that spirit, I would lose it. My mom was silent for a few minutes before telling me she loved me. It was getting ready to respond when it began.
Starting point is 01:33:41 It was a low, barely audible sound, but I heard it. When I heard that sound, my weekend resolve shattered apart. I heard the low, pain sound of my grandfather's strained wheezing that was quickly muffled by a pillow pressed over his face. I managed to keep myself in check for a few weeks by relegating my heavy drinking to the weekend. That way, I managed to be productive enough to keep myself grounded. Hearing my grandfather's death gas rattling through my mom's phone was too much for me. I fled to my old vice and let it take over my life.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I went out to the nearest bar and drank myself into a stupor. I'm pretty sure I was still drunk when I went into work the next day. My co-workers knew something was going on when I showed up the next day drunk. I haven't snuck out at lunch to have a couple of pulls from the flask in my car to get through the day. I tried to keep myself in a constant state of inebriation because I knew that Sunday was fast approaching and being intoxicated dulled the grim realization. My co-workers were tight-lipped about it, but I could tell from their disapproving glares that I was wearing thin on their patience. The next Sunday night, the wheezing was so loud that I could barely hear
Starting point is 01:34:47 my parents' voices. I made up an excuse telling them I didn't feel well and hung up shortly after that. I spent the rest of that weekend getting wasted as if my drinking could ward off their upcoming call and their concern. The situation at work degraded and my friends and co-workers began to distance themselves from me, sensing that I was about to self-destruct. I developed my own routine for getting through the week. I'd wake up in the morning and wash my mouth out with a bottle of Jack Daniels before going to work. Luckily, I worked in a pretty rural area where my sloppy driving did and attract a lot of attention, and the sky was still dark at 6 in the morning. I'd have lunched by myself, take pulls from a flask to steal myself for the rest of the day. I'd become a social
Starting point is 01:35:27 pariah at work. After work, I'd visit a bar and have bar food for dinner and a couple of drinks to keep me going through the night. I knew that I was burning through my money I had accumulated while working, but it was a necessity. When I was sober, I quince. question what I heard. Was I really hearing my grandfather wheezing and gasping through the phone, or was it my guilt at knowing that my mom had done my decision not to confront her tormenting me? Was it a mercy killing or was it desperation? I'll never know. I managed to make it through another Sunday night call, but I'm almost certain that they knew something was happening. Maybe I slurred my words, or maybe it was how I spoke, but they knew that I'd fallen off the wagon. It was at this
Starting point is 01:36:09 point that I can't really relate what happens next to you, all with reliable accuracy. I forgot a large portion of this time due to my alcohol-induced days. I spent days in such a stupor that I'm still amazed that I wasn't fired. I have little to no recollection of those days that I was constantly chasing that blacked-out state. I guess I was still doing a good enough job to warrant paying me, but I'm not sure how. There's only one memory of this binge that I can remember with clarity. I remember turning over my phone. and seeing that it was my parents calling me after weeks of radio silence from them. I hung up the phone and continued poisoning my body.
Starting point is 01:36:48 The next moment that I can faithfully recall was a sound. A jarring thud snapped me out of my drunken autopilot and sobered me up like a cold shower. My head snapped up in my glazed eyes glanced around. I realized I was driving and had just zoned out. I regained control of the will and slowed down the car. I pulled over to call my pounding. heart. Having achieved that, I got out to inspect the damage. There was a halacious dent in the bumper. I examined the area as my stomach began to sink. And I hit something? That thought sobered me up.
Starting point is 01:37:21 There was no blood on the car, so I reasoned that I hadn't hit anything living. The dent was substantial, so it had to be something large. If I had a hazarded guess, I would estimate that it was the size of a basketball or larger. I breathed out a sigh of relief before another thought insinuated itself. What had I hit with my car? I walked a couple hundred yards back, but I didn't see anything. I looked for logs, branches, or any type of debris in the road. My search didn't turn anything up. I reasoned it was nothing, and after confirming that it was around six in the morning,
Starting point is 01:37:54 and a weekday, I went to work. I didn't have a liquid lunch that day. I didn't have any lunch at all, really. My stomach in mind was so upset that I doubted I could hold anything down even if I wanted to. finished up washing the animal cages and went home for the day along the way home i stopped by the side of the desolate rural road searched the area again turned up nothing to my investigation i went home and set of my bed i didn't have anything to drink i didn't eat either i also didn't sleep what had happened on that road when did i hit i recall
Starting point is 01:38:31 it was a saturday i remember this because i had to check my phone's calendar to find the correct date. Much to my chagrin, I realized that checking my phone to find out what day it was had become a common occurrence for me. I moved to the fridge in a mechanical repetition of my typical morning ritual. I opened the door expecting it to be barren. I saw a carton of eggs and enough food to make breakfast for myself. It was a shame that I still wasn't hungry. It was around this time that I started to get worried about my health. I hadn't eaten anything since yesterday morning. I sat down on my couch where I typically had breakfast and turned on the television. Dark thoughts began to surface in my brain.
Starting point is 01:39:10 My mind flashed back to when I was younger. I was watching the ghostly girl. She would appear almost every night, and she was always repeating. She wept for a few minutes before sitting up and going to the boiler room to hang herself. My grandfather spent his afterlife line in his bed, coughing and wheezing before my mother went to his room and smothered him what I can only hope was an act of mercy. What was I doing if not repeating myself like them?
Starting point is 01:39:39 I like that connection a lot, that he's so terrified of living in a loop he can't come out of, but he's doing the exact same thing to himself with the drinking. Right. Like pushing himself there. He's created his own hell that he's so scared of. I was filled with existential terror. Horrible thoughts began to fester in my brain. What if I had hit something bigger than a log?
Starting point is 01:40:00 Maybe I'd struck a tree and gone through my car's windshield. Maybe I was lying on that quiet, rural street dying or already dead. Was I doomed to repeat a drunken haze before coming around full circle to the moment of my death? I continued with that terrifying mindset before there was some breaking news and I was saved from that horrible thought and thrown to a much more painful one. The breaking news was an amber alert. Oh, no. I figured he hit a kid or something. Oh, gosh, dude.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Yeah. Oh. A local 9-year-old boy had gone missing. His parents woke up a day ago to find that he was not in his bed. Police didn't have any leads, but they were confident they would turn something up in their search. I watched his cheerful mom pleading with everyone through the TV to please return her boy to her. He was only nine years old. He liked reading, video games, and exploring the woods near their house.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Her eyes rolled up with tears and she repeated, He's my little explorer. Please come home to me. For some reason, my stomach coiled up tighter than it had before, and I felt sick. It seemed like every channel I flipped to, I was looking at that boy's cherubic face. When it was in his picture, it was his mother's weeping and his father's pained expression. I turned off the TV. Couldn't watch anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I went to the fridge and got a beer. Cracked it open, and I just held it to my mouth. when I got sick. I emptied my stomach into the sink. Typically, I felt better after getting sick, but this time, I only felt worse. I went out onto my balcony to get some fresh air. I live in an apartment on the third floor. For now and then, I would go out onto my balcony to have a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Below me, police and people swarm the streets like ants in a colony. Were they all looking for the boy? My stomach coiled up even more to the point that it hurt. even though it was early in the afternoon and went to bed. I was so exhausted, but I still couldn't get to sleep. I spent hours in my bed, turning, writhing, being unable to make sense of it all. What had happened on that road? It was around 4 in the morning when I decided that I wasn't going to get any sleep until I knew what had happened out there.
Starting point is 01:42:23 I needed the cold, hard truth, reassurance. I had to have the certainty. I got to my car and started heading to work. where I had had my accident. I wanted to know the truth, even if it was as horrible as I thought it would be. I parked my car on the side of the road. As I walked up and down the road, my memory slowly started to recall bits and pieces. I was driving to work. When I was waiting at stoplights, I would take a sip from my flask. It was almost like muscle memory, and sometimes I would catch myself trying to drink from an empty flask, even though I knew that I'd finish it off moments earlier.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I turned off the city road It was heading towards my work via an old country road through the woods I remember my head drooping down I wasn't tired I just wanted something to get me through the day to get me through the Sunday night call My head had just nodded down again
Starting point is 01:43:15 And then Thud I must have walked up and down those dismal roads For about two hours The sun was just beginning to peek through the night sky And I didn't have to have to try and explain to any passing cars while I was walking up and down a mile's stretch of road looking for God knows what.
Starting point is 01:43:32 I decided that my mind was playing tricks on me, and it was just a fiendish coincidence. I pulled around and headed home. As I was leaving, I thought that I had seen something in my rearview mirror on the road. I ignored it. I got home and reflexively grabbed the remote and aimed it at the television. I didn't press the button because I knew what was waiting for me on the TV. managed to make myself a sandwich to eat. I still wasn't feeling hungry, but I forced myself to eat it.
Starting point is 01:44:02 As I swallowed down the last bite, I regretted my decision to. A sandwich set in my stomach like lead. I spent the rest of the day wandering aimlessly around my apartment, too anxious to settle down with a book and too nervous to watch television. Talk to my parents that night, but I was too shell-shocked to recall anything from that conversation. I can't even remember if I heard the spirit of my grandfather wheezy and and gasping into the phone like a perverted caller.
Starting point is 01:44:28 If you had a gun to my head and told me to remember that conversation with my family, I would say that I remember talking about work. I would then question why you would hold a gun to my head for such trivial information. Safe to assume that I didn't sleep at all that night. I rolled out of bed and went about my morning ritual. Forced myself to eat a plate of eggs and a slice of toast. I worked late that night. Most of my time was spent trying to correct the multitude of mistakes I made due to being distracted.
Starting point is 01:44:55 It was dark when I drove home. I was just ground in the corner when I saw him emerge from the woods on the other side of the road. I slammed the brakes, but it was too late, and he lifted his tiny hands to his face, blinded by my headlights. He gave a slight cry before being knocked off the road, like he had been backhanded by some invisible and vengeful God. A terrible reveal, but at the same time, that would be pretty funny to see. Just the kid getting a zoop. I mean, he's like this, uh, and he just says, Yeah, because there's no car there, but it's the action.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Yeah, yeah, thrown that far. Yeah. So it's just him invisibly like, like, yeah. Yeah, Hunter, funny. Yeah. That nine-year-old's getting hit by drunk drivers. It's really fun.
Starting point is 01:45:40 I just say the visual. I understand. I pulled off the road and looked up and down the streets. There was no one on the road. I was alone in a sense. I walked to the side of the road and proceeded to climb down the slope. I scanned the darkness for a few minutes before I found him. He was curled up in the alcove of a tree. He was in a fetal position, cradling his
Starting point is 01:46:02 fragile, broken body. He stared at his corpse for a few minutes before going home, pouring every single liquor bottle down the drain. It is a little... I thought he's going to like call the police, turn himself in. So I feel like he's building up to it. Probably. But it is a little funny to be like, you know what? I'm getting clean. No more for me. Exactly. This was a wake-up call. wake up call. For sure. Message received. Click. There's this. So I played Resident Evil 9, right?
Starting point is 01:46:31 And the guy through all the Resident Evil games, who like started umbrella, who made the virus, is this guy named Spencer. He's like super, most of the games, he's like an old dude in a wheelchair, who's on life support, who's trying to create these viruses so he can find a way to live forever
Starting point is 01:46:47 in like a perfect body. And in the series, he is directly responsible for the deaths of like a billion people, right? Well, nine comes out and you find the secret video of him where it's like an interview and he adopted like a little girl like a baby girl he found he's like in some small way i hope to make up for the deaths i've caused it's like no it doesn't yeah we're past that you're past you adopted one living child yeah oh right to the difference it'd be pretty cool i think that doesn't
Starting point is 01:47:24 count. But here it's like, you know what? I may have killed a child with my vehicle. But no more drinks. I'm done. Hitting the bottle. That's for sure. Yeah. After I emptied out every drink I had in my fridge, which took a while, I stood at the sink for a few minutes before breaking down. I thought throwing it all away would make me feel better, but I only felt worse. I can only describe it like this. Imagine that at some point in your life, something, somehow gets knocked loose from you and you realize it's missing, but don't know how to fix it. You live with that emptiness for years before realizing that there's a way to numb it. You can pour alcohol into the exposed wound and for a moment, it doesn't feel so bad. The world seems monochrome and dull.
Starting point is 01:48:09 You don't have to care so much. All that pain, all that ache is gone and you can function if only for a little bit. Pretty soon, you realize that this is the only way you can reach the state of disassociation. You keep returning to that found and self-medicating as best you can with what you can until you realize that something's wrong. It just doesn't work like it used to. It doesn't dull those thoughts. It doesn't blunt those memories. At first it numbed everything. But now, now there's a dull throbbing in your head of what you've done and what you've failed to do and it festeres. It eats away at you regardless of how much liquor you pour into it until you realize that it's not the liquor, that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Chew. So you pour everything out thinking that it'd be some revelation, some great boon, but it's not. It only feels like that emptiness inside you has grown. Now there's nothing to anethitize, anethyst, anesthetize it. Whatever. There's nothing to fucking
Starting point is 01:49:08 numb it. And now there's nothing to numb it. There's nothing to solve these issues. You can't piece yourself back together. something inside you is broken and you don't know if you'll ever fix it without alcohol i couldn't find anything to numb that feeling i considered placing an anonymous call in to end the amber alert bring some form of closure to his parents but i couldn't do it not yet not yet not yet i couldn't do it i couldn't come on i have faith in them i'm a coward
Starting point is 01:49:40 and worse than that i kept asking myself why me all right i'm yeah you sure about that I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm the drunk driver. I'm hoping. I'm the victim here. I made this terrible moment about me. I pretended like I was the victim here, but I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Word for word. Part for bar. I asked myself what I'd done wrong to deserve all of this, as if I didn't already know the answer to that. I'm a selfish coward and no amount of drinking will distract me from that. I managed to drip off to sleep that night, but I kept waking up with a scream in my throat and sweat, standing the sheets. Five in the morning, I decided to go into work early. I passed the boy on the way
Starting point is 01:50:22 into work and on the way home. Each time it was a little more graphic, a little more gut-wrenching. He stepped out into the road. What was he doing out that early? He raised his hands in front of his face to shield his eyes from my headlights. My car struck him and sent him skipping along the asphalt, whirling dervish of broken bones off the road. I wish I could tell you that I did the right thing. that I called the police or his parents and let them know where the body of their son was nestled in between the roots of a tree. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm a horrible person.
Starting point is 01:51:00 I'm the lowest of the low. I tried to go about with my life. After a week, the Amber Alert ended and the world moved on. I didn't. The parents didn't. He's on that road every time I drive to work. I see him stepping out onto the road. He's there with me when I close.
Starting point is 01:51:17 close my eyes. I had foolish thoughts of moving away, but his death is going to follow me. It, no, he, is going to haunt me. It's a dead albatross tied around my neck. I'll never forget the sound of his startled gasp, the impact of my bumper on his tiny body. A few days after the Amber Alert was cancelled, I returned to that dead road in the middle of the night. Parked my car and watched his spirit living out its last moments, his short life. I hit him with my car, car and he skipped along the road and off the side. I walked solemnly behind him. I trailed him as he dragged his broken and bleeding body along the dirt. He reached the tree and curled up in its roots. His body was still there when I returned. Diamond left him withered and putrefied. I can't say
Starting point is 01:52:06 how long I stood by his corpse. It doesn't really matter in the long run. As I stood there in vigil, I knew that this guilt was going to consume me. Eat me a way. way inside like a cancer. It was in this moment that I knew that I'd be haunted by this and the others for the rest of my life. I'd be dogged by the overwhelming loneliness at the ghostly girl who claimed my bedroom as her haunt. I would be stalked by the feeling of hopelessness that consumed my grandfather as he lay in what would be his deathbed and excruciatingly slid towards his demise. Most of all, I'd be haunted by my murder of that young boy. Badal mistake was now like a tattooer. on my soul. So we reached the conclusion. My conclusion. The irony is almost palpable. I want nothing more
Starting point is 01:52:55 than to die at this very moment and I am consumed by an overwhelming desire to live. I know what happens to us when we die. I don't want to live those final moments of my life, my suicide and nauseam. See myself slicing open my wrist, hanging myself for the rest of eternity. I also don't want to experience this guilt and shame for the rest of my miserable life. I want to embrace the reaper and I want to run screaming from his bony grasp. These sentiments will follow me atmortem. My mind is constantly waging a war within itself to unload this burden and escape into death and to hold it within me like a dark treasure.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Maybe writing this all out will help me achieve some sort of clarity about what I should do next. I doubt it, although I have to confess in some form or other, don't know which choice is right or wrong. All I know is that this is hell. Add infinitum. It was a fun ending. Yeah. I kind of like that actually he didn't.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Not that I like that he didn't confess, but I think it makes his character a little more complex. Yeah, well, it's like he, um, he's obviously tormented his whole life by seeing these death echoes. Um, and that pushes him to drinking, which leads to another death. So,
Starting point is 01:54:12 the thing I mentioned, I like the theme in where he becomes so terrified of death, knowing that it's just relieving your final moments over and over, that he pushes his life to a point where it's kind of like that death, just a misery over and over. It seems like all the echoes ring true with himself, too. The little girl getting killed and dying echoes the kid that he, the child that he killed. His mother killing the grandfather is going to echo how he kills himself. And even the grandfather grasping and being sick is like his alcoholism. Yeah. It's kind of interesting how it all just like come.
Starting point is 01:54:44 full circle and it's like he could have learned from all these things but yet he just decided to like numb himself which you know it'd be difficult hearing all the things and having to deal with that but very uh very interesting needless to say i feel like there's another story about a medium or a psychic or whatever that begins to lose their mind because they see dead people um does that sound familiar to you at all no just six cents like you were saying i mean six cents of course but the six cents was interesting because it's from a child's perspective and they don't really understand or grasp. But that one kind of has, I mean, obviously not with Bruce
Starting point is 01:55:16 Willis, but with the child, it kind of has a hopeful note at the end of like, maybe they can use this for good to help people and, you know, do things like that. And it's like, yeah, Bruce Willis is dead, which is the part everyone remembers from the ending. I swear there was a movie I watched where it was about a guy who was like,
Starting point is 01:55:33 he could see the dead, but he was like terrified by them and it pushed him to drinking and stuff like that. But I can't remember what it was. No, no. All I knows the story was great. I thought it was a lot of fun. I really liked it. It was interesting to see how all of them kind of tied up. And I like that. He kind of like interwove, uh, the at, like basically all of the titles, uh, together in a very fun way where it all felt really cohesive. And in a way, like I said, it just felt, uh, full circle.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I think, um, Imperial Invective always has these really cool themes baked into his stories. Like it's whorseled in the earth where it was about like someone decaying, you know, falling apart as they crawl deeper into this cave. And here it kind of feels like. like pushing your being so afraid of the inevitable that you cause it. Right.
Starting point is 01:56:21 I think being afraid of the ocean that you swim out into it. I think, uh, I feel like with a lot of his work, which I might be, I don't know, but I feel like maybe he has not not that maybe has a drinking problem. No, but I think that. Really? But I do think that, uh, I wonder if like any of a substance abuse or of any of that stuff because so much of his work is about decaying, numbing. It's about like, I mean, this, this whole story is just literally the,
Starting point is 01:56:44 ghosts that haunt your pass that drove him to drink and how that made him create a ghost. Yeah. Create his own ghost with his actions. So pretty interesting. And the addiction point, like the addiction that he gets from like dwelling on this so much pushes him to create more of it, both in his own life and the child, create another instance of, you know, death that has to be repeated over and over. So it's like he was so paranoid of this eventuality that he creates it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:14 yeah it's a very it is a very and this isn't a negative of the story but it is an incredibly bad what's the word i'm looking for the opposite of like a hopeful like triumph the opposite of triumphant it's a very defeated ending where it's like yeah this horrible thing happened to him uh so he made that thing happen and everything got worse you know it's a very it's like he the narrative continues to punish no one over and over no one learned i mean it's just no one learned It's a byproduct of his actions for sure. Yeah. I think for a story, too, in this scary house, it felt fun. Like, I like that it also tied in, like, just with the setting that we're sitting in.
Starting point is 01:57:57 The ghost girl on the bed. Go scurl and all that kind of stuff. I think that it's just, it was a fun read for this. And I think that, too, it put a very sympathetic, it puts a very sympathetic twist on the dead. Yeah. Which is interesting, where I think a lot of people use it as a catalyst for, you know, fear and, things that are trying to attack. And also like the thing I mentioned at the end of the second part
Starting point is 01:58:16 where he figures out that his grandfather was killed by his mom because the way it's grabbing, it's almost like the story there is giving him an option. Like the universe is being like, look, you could use this for good, right? Like, I mean, imagine how that could help with his investigations or like trying to answer questions about lost loved ones and stuff like that. There's so much
Starting point is 01:58:34 he could do with this capability. I don't know if I read it that way either. I think that he has such an unusual and almost unhealthy view of what death is to where... I guess it is true that he only sees people related to him because he mentioned that thing about... Yeah. God, I don't see everyone.
Starting point is 01:58:51 He can't see everybody. And I think that, like, also, I just... I don't think that there's ever... It kind of seems interesting of, like, I don't know if his dad has a similar thing or if it's like the things that are passed down to you, but it seems like his relationship with death and how it embeds, like, it instills fear.
Starting point is 01:59:08 I think the biggest problem is that he actually never talked to anybody. and he like never he never approached it from that angle he was like very reserved and the thing that he turned to is numbing his problems i think that's like ultimately that's that's the that's the lesson learned is that i think he should have been more open that i think that he should have uh tried to understand it versus fear it i think too there's also like if you pull out the supernatural elements there's still an existing narrative of someone going through addiction 100% mental turmoil uh and not making it better yeah no this is a very i would say this is a very realistic understanding of addiction of a the catalyst is just super natural it's easy to also lie to yourself to lie to others and all like i mean like it's but i think the catalyst that makes it a
Starting point is 01:59:48 like a fun sunday with a cherry on top is that there's ghost and that kind of stuff though a lot of the description of like his drinking and like oh that those couple paragraphs about like for a little bit you can operate you don't think about the reality that was giving me wraps of uh mother horse eyes with all the stuff with the author there talking about alcoholism and stuff like that. The, uh, the scariest part of all this, though, is door-dashing Taco Bell to a haunted house and eating a double-re-old. And the driver won't come to the door. And the driver tapping on the door and being like, can you meet me down the road to drop off the food? That actually happened. So he walks up to the door and knocks it and just walks away. And I am ready to get out of this position.
Starting point is 02:00:25 So until next time, guys, we will see you in the next one. Please watch the next one. We'll be going to recording next in the basement. We're going to be recording in the basement. There's a lot of really big bugs down there. And I can't wait for them to get all in Hunter's hair. So thank you so much also to our audio listeners who didn't get to see this. Please check out the visuals this time. But if you are listening on audio, thank you for listening on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, anywhere, can go and giving us a nice rating. And also, thank you patrons for supporting the show and getting an extra episode, which we're going to upload like a vlog. We're going to vlog and stuff like for the patrons of us, like going around, getting spooked by everything. Yeah, so it's been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Yeah. And also, um, the way you said like, please watch the visuals for this one with Well, it's too good to pass up. Please. Just look at me. Please. It's too good. All right. That's it.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Wait. I have to say something. I'm going to put crickets in his Taco Bellers. I don't know.

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