CreepCast - Deepwoods | Creep Cast

Episode Date: October 27, 2024

In the debut episode from their new set, the boys read another tale from Rebecca Klingel, the author of Borrasca. Also Hunter really has to ask Isaiah something… Learn more about your ad choices. Vi...sit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There is the cold habitual, and it is the froy of the mountains blue. The frost at its summit. Coors Light, t'en've been a fraud. Celebrate in a fashion responsible, you have to have the age legal to consume the alcohol.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Woo! Stop! Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket. To my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Chili Dog, not included. The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. I am trying so hard to try to find a Totino's sponsorship somewhere. I mean, we probably could. Can you imagine if we got a Totino's pizza flavor? Jol, that would be, you know, happy I'd be to be in a grocery store and be like, there we are.
Starting point is 00:00:47 They put green dye in the cheese, so it's, you melt the green. It's like green cheese, and we call it like. Little black pepperonies. Yeah, what would we call it, green and black pizza roll? Crazy pepperoni. yo whoa hold on hold on cowboy let's calm down there you're really opening up a lot of doors scary scary salami
Starting point is 00:01:13 scary salami scary salami's pretty good but there's no salami in it it's pepperoni hazardous hamburger what about creepy pepperoni like the peas play off each other creepy pepperoni creepy pepperoni. Yeah. Creeperone. Yo. He's got it. Look at this guy. What about, so I, no one really jumped at this, but I'm still going to say it again. Hazardous hamburger. Say it again. See if the third time gets us. Hazardous hamburger. Yo! Today, we're reading a story written by the author of Barasca,
Starting point is 00:02:05 a.k.a. the Dalek emperor, aka. Sorry, I was looking at the subreddit making memes about your grandfather shooting your dog. I think the use of AI. Also written by C.K. Walker, which is the pen name of Rebecca Klingle. So obviously, not only do you guys know the impact Barasca has had on, you know, your well-being. But the impact it's had on us, because most of the time when we talk about, like, one of the best stories we covered, Barrasca is always in the top three, right? And everyone, we love it. A lot of you all love it in spite of the trauma it caused, which you're welcome for that, by the way. So we figured there is an episode, or sorry, a short story written
Starting point is 00:02:48 by the same author called The Lost Town of Deepwood, Pennsylvania. So that sounds like an interesting title. We know we like the author. Sounds perfect for an in-person episode. I'm still going to go back to, I think, that the abuse of AI in our subreddit depicting me as a fat child. I want to just go on record saying that those posts are going to be removed. I'm going to repel those from existence on the subreddit. And there's just going to be, it's just going to have to be a lot stricter. And I hate to be this guy, but it's unfucking fathomable what they've started to do to me. And I have started therapy because of it.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah. here's a picture of him as a fat little child next to a man holding a shotgun pointed out a small dog and it says hunter's grandfather's POV and I think that's really cool and you all should keep doing it anyway so to get I don't have to tell you why that's we're removing that okay and we're getting into the story and I will say I think the title of the story is good Yes, it is interesting. It reminds me of the one we did during a grab bag. What was it called? The disappearance of Shelby, Kansas or so it was a woman's name, Kansas. Ashley, Kansas. The disappearance of Ashley, Kansas. So the title kind of reminds me of that. But again, from, I think honestly, the only one of Rebecca's works I've read is probably Barovska, at least to my knowledge. I think that's the only one that we've read. It's definitely the only one we've only read on the show. just in general. I think in general. That's the other one I've read. I thought you've read way more of her
Starting point is 00:04:29 stuff. I guess not. I've heard of more of her stuff. Like I've heard of like Mayhem Mountain, I know, but I've never read it, stuff like that. So there are, I know she has written a lot of other famous works. Barasca far and away, though, is the most popular. She's also done the work on the haunting of Hillhouse. Okay, I should clarify, in the creepypasta community, Barrasca is the most popular. But yeah, she's like a very accomplished author, the road on Haunting of Hill House and stuff like that. We stay in her very much. Rebecca, for some reason, you see this.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Does Pennsylvania have any bodies of water? Because this could very well be an Atlantis situation. Deepwood. I feel like Deepwood makes it sound like it's in the woods. That's, you know, you're putting up a, I just want, when are we going to start talking about mur creatures? Merman, mer women. I actually know a few creepypastas about, like, ocean people and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I want to start digging into that. when we can soon Okay Not now Okay Okay Okay buddy When we start rolling in
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's like oh I think that my husband's a fucking fish person I want to be on that gravy train Okay All right All right But I'll let you know I'm excited I hope that this is equally
Starting point is 00:05:39 As good as Barasca If so I'm going to be a very happy little boy today Do you also want it to have Like female impregnation farms Yeah like the sex slave weird You know I think we could probably do without it. I'm open to a lot of things, though.
Starting point is 00:05:56 How many stories does an author have to write with that in it before it becomes questionable? I think three. Oh! We're on the right track. So if this one does have it, totally fine. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's one more.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I mean, like, you know, everyone, who doesn't from time to time? We look at every one of our stories and they're all just impregnation from stories. Like, okay, okay, well, come on. Maybe we dial it back a little bit. All right, well, without further ado, let's get into the lost town of Deepwood, Pennsylvania. Let's get into it. As always, everyone, thank you so much for watching. Oh, yeah, Spotify.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Spotify. Listen to us there, baby. Rate us good. Rate us hard. We're halfway to Hawk Tua. We are Hawk Tua podcast is at 15 right now. We're still above Ben Shapiro, but we want to get above. I want to get above fucking Markiplier, which his show is presented by mug.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Rubier, yeah. How the hell do we get? We can still. I get a mug presented by we can steal that I think we can if we overtake them we can
Starting point is 00:06:56 and I have to get by for I will if by the end of the year we have not surpassed the talk to a podcast I will that has to be bleeped
Starting point is 00:07:08 there's no way it cannot be can we do you think we can at least try to get a mountain dew presented by Mountain Dew I think
Starting point is 00:07:19 where's it where's it at hold on. Did we not have one? We had one. We drank it. That's how much we like it. Harry, go grab the Baja Blast Zeros. Hold on. Didn't like Red Bull and Monster sponsor creators forever? That we don't need to talk about them. We're our scopes need to be on Mountain Dew. That's where our love is moving forward. Isaiah, let's get into this story. And if there's a reference of Mountain Dew, we're going to give a lucky fan $60,000. You're going to give a fan $60,000. I don't know. It's going to be a split joint here.
Starting point is 00:07:50 know what you're talking about. Lost town, Deepwood, Pennsylvania. All right. When I was a kid, my dad traveled a lot for work. Back then, his company was growing exponentially, and my father was sent to oversee the opening of new stores all across the country. In 2002, he had a particularly busy year. My dad was assigned to his store in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:08:10 and because it was a longer assignment, and because it was summertime as well, he decided to take my mom and I with him. Since we were going to be there for two months, they gave us a fully furnished house in the suburbs. It was two stories tall and at the end of a very long cul-de-sac. The town itself was very small, with a little over 3,000 residents, and the suburb where we stayed was even more rural.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Our neighborhood was relatively new, and most of the houses were still empty. The housing development, Lone Wood, had only just started cutting into the dense forest that surrounded it, and all the empty houses gave it a very eerie, albeit boring feel. Lucky for me, there were a few other kids who, lived in Lonewood and one of them happened to be my age. Jamie and I were both 12 and really that was all we needed to have in common. We had a lot of fun that summer. Being a city kid, I was eager to explore all the bike trails local kids had made out in the woods. The city of Middlesboro was a very old town which was incorporated sometime in the early 1800s. The town had tons of history,
Starting point is 00:09:13 but nothing really to do. One particularly boring Sunday, Jamie and I even went to the town's museum. It's pretty boring, as expected, until we heard some kid asking an employee about the lost town. The employee replied that that was just a legend, but that was enough to peek my curiosity. I do love that. Random kid comes in. What about the lost town?
Starting point is 00:09:37 What over the lost town? Yeah. I don't think I've ever had anything to that extreme, but I've definitely heard of, like, in my hometown, we had a little city museum thing that was also really boring. But there was a guy who's like, what about the butcher? And it was like, where it's like, oh, we had a serial killer in this town. And then the guy was like, oh, that makes it even more interesting. We're not trying to put him in here.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I've never still, I've still never known like who it was or anything. Wow. But it was still one of it's like that weird serendipid. I like this, I like this beginning of being like, what about the lost town? What of the lost town? Yeah, exactly. I will say right now, this is smacking on the pulpit of Baroque. pretty hard. I was new to town. I was 12 years old. I met a local kid named Jamie. Oh, true. We went to
Starting point is 00:10:26 the local historic place and there was the lost town, which is the exact same was like the lost mind or whatever was the person of refresh my memory. Was the, so was the he was new to town or his dad. Yeah, his dad, they had just moved there because his dad got a job as the sheriff's deputy. The sheriff. Okay. That's that's okay. I'm just making sure. Because that was the whole thing with that story was fucked up was that the dad like the dad turned out to be one of the people running it and gave his daughter to the thing, which is why I want to read the next part of Barasca, because I hope he gets just... We should put that out there. We will be doing Barasca 5 at some point. Yeah, it's just a long, it's long. I think Barasca 5, if I recall, right, is longer than one through four together.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I think that we, yeah, I think that we were looking it over. It's like a five hour. Yeah, it's going to be like a long-ass episode. Which I'm down for. Yeah, we just need to prepare it, you know, we just need to block out a day for it. Yeah, yeah. A full day. Yeah. I quitched Jamie about it, but he didn't seem to know much either. It was a full five weeks into the summer before I finally got my questions answered. Jamie and I were building a bike ramp over a narrow stream late one afternoon
Starting point is 00:11:28 when we saw a group of five teenagers boisterously heading up out into the woods. They were carrying flashlights and beer, several of them trying to scare the girls of the group into turning back. I wonder where they're going. I mused as I glanced over at Jamie. He stood up and wiped his brow.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I know where they're going. Where? I stood up and dusted the dirt off my shorts. The novelty of living in a small town had weeks ago given way to boredom, and I jumped on anything that sounded remotely interesting. They're looking for the Lost Town. He sighed regretfully. Okay, seriously, what is that?
Starting point is 00:12:02 I knew you knew more than you let on. I need to know, Jamie, I need to know. I shook his shoulders and mock hysteria, and he stumbled for balance. All right, I'll tell you, geez, Katie. Jamie picked up his bike and started walking down the bike path. I grabbed his mind and followed him. The Lost Town is just a dumb legend. The stories say that Middleboro had sister city nearby, somewhere out in these woods.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Then one day, like a century and a half ago, the whole town just disappeared. The people left or died. Nobody knows. Nobody even remembers the name of the town. It's like a rite of passage or something for kids to go looking for it. Jamie, we should... No! He stopped and turned to look at me.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Some kid went looking for it in the 70s and never came back. They found his body like 10 years later in the middle of nowhere. he got lost out there it's easy to do everything looks the same he was a total idiot probably on drugs I mean it was the 70s we're totally different generation
Starting point is 00:12:56 we have satnav satnav satellite navigation GPS yeah satnav he looked at me curiously Jamie had lived in this town his whole life and sometimes I forgot how sheltered he was satellite navigation
Starting point is 00:13:13 that's me impersonating it's so it's so cringe that we just had this conversation. I know, I fucking hate myself. My dad has a GPS that he totally wouldn't notice missing for a day. Come on, Jamie. It'd be so much fun. I'd better get back. I love whenever you have conversations with yourself, because it's like hysteria,
Starting point is 00:13:31 setting in. Jamie looked at his watch and then mounted his bike. My dad has taken me to a movie tonight. We rode in an uncomfortable silence until an idea struck me as we rolled over the abandoned train tracks. They were old and almost buried by wrapped by plant growth. Hey, I do you don't want to talk about it, but has anyone ever found anything? No, well, my friend's older brother said he found some human bones out there once,
Starting point is 00:13:55 but nobody believed him. Oh, where do people look? Well, almost everybody goes to the lake. He pointed to the left of us, where we'd seen the teenagers heading earlier. It's pretty deep back there, but they figure if there was another town, they would have lived by the lake, so that's where they go. Well, you know what I would do? I would follow the train tracks.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, they look pretty old. I don't know why they would lay them going back into those woods unless there was something back there. So that's where I'd go. Jamie, consider this and then nodded. Yeah, I guess I could buy that. No one follows the tracks that way, though. That's where that kid disappeared went.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I wasn't swayed. I didn't bring up the lost town again until two weeks later. It was a weekend before we were moving home, and my parents had a barbecue for the employees of Dad's new store and some of our neighbors. Jamie and I hung out inside the house and played my Nintendo 64 while we flirted pretty outrageously
Starting point is 00:14:48 Hot How old are these kids? 26, I think you. They're Bases covered. Bases covered. Man, these kids on bicycles, building ramps playing N-664. Thank God they graduated college
Starting point is 00:15:09 eight years ago, yeah. What does it look like? Like whenever you're flirting playing Nintendo 64. What was that? What kind of, what kind of shenanes? You were never, you were never, like, in high school playing games with the girl you liked. Some of the boys, maybe. It's my turn.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's my turn. Stop! Stop it. No, stop, Tycoe. Stop! Stop! That's how I float. You do, you do that thing when, like, you're playing a game together, and then one of you's, like, beating the other, and you're, like, doing the, ha-ha, like, the shove thing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Okay, come on. That you're cheating. Sure, yeah. That's probably what's been described here. Yeah. There's a lot of this going on, you know. You're tickling me. I don't like, I'm not going to describe anymore because you're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It makes me uncomfortable. I'm looking directly into the viewer's eyes right now. Stop it. You're tickling me. I'm up next. I want that if people can practice their flirtation. I'm going to keep reading good. lord there had been an unspoken sort of mutual attraction throughout the summer that no one had the
Starting point is 00:16:19 guts to act on moaning since i was moving home in five days there really was nothing left to lose although his intentions were probably pure and genuine i'm embarrassed to say that mine were not i thought that if i could make him want to impress me he would agree to go looking for the lost town. What a bitch. I mean, this is like standard high school stuff. Yeah, but still, that is not, I mean, what the fuck? I mean, like, sure it's rude, but I mean, like, there's a bunch of girls in high school, like, oh, that guy
Starting point is 00:16:48 likes me. If he gets off flustered, he'll go to that weird town where the guy died. Well, how many... Just to impress me. How many girls... How many girls in high school and stuff like that? Like, you know, they try to, like, get a guy to like them for, like, social cloud,
Starting point is 00:17:04 or, like, because he's, like, big on the baseball team. Like, they don't actually like him. They just want something. out of him, right? It's like it's, I think it's a fine part of being a kid. Now, when you're an adult doing like serious relationships off of this, it's different. Negging? What is, what is the definition of negging?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Negging is a manipulative tactic that involves making backhanded compliments or negative comments. Oh, that's what you're just like, you look really good for a fat girl. That's negging. I don't think that's it. That's negging. I don't think that's nagging. No, a manipulative tactic that involves
Starting point is 00:17:35 making backhanded comments or negative comments to make someone feel. what you just did is just mean it would be like this it'd be like yeah you look a lot better today that's that's this kind of similar to what I did no no the different
Starting point is 00:17:53 saying you look really good for a fat girl is totally different first off I didn't say that I'm saying that's the example of someone negative I'm saying but it has to be manipulative if I say you look better today you're like Thank you. And then maybe you're later to like, oh, did I look not good the past few days? Which is what the incentive, the underlying was.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Oh, so just saying, you look pretty good for a fat girl. It's just like, what are you talking? What? Like, there's no, there's no manipulation there. You know, for a guy this big, you look really good. Okay, here's one. Hey, Hunter, your last video was a lot better. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It was really good. The other ones are good. This one's really good, too. Wow, I'm good at everything. That's what he meant. There's never one negative thing. Hmm, okay. Well, I'm glad I have an understanding of what nagging is now.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Okay, I'm just going to keep going. The legend had thoroughly consumed me. I'd been to the local library every morning for the past week looking for more information on the town and it found nothing. The legends don't just come from nowhere. I'm sure of it. I knew if we didn't leave by 2 p.m., we wouldn't have enough daylight to carry out my plan.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I already had a backpack packed with water, a flashlight, a camera, and a can of red spray paint. I figured if we left the tracks, we would need a way to find our way back to them. I thought I was so clever. Nothing in that backpack made a damn bit of difference in the end. I was a fool.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I set my controller down and turned to look at Jamie. So, do you want to go to the woods one last time? I raised my eyebrow at him and smiled. Yeah. He said excitedly, And he jumped up off the couch. Then, embarrassed, he cast his eyes down at the floor. Yeah, you know, if you want to, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Cool, let's go. This impersonal thing is I'm glad I get to act and be the character here. Yeah, I get. The whole time you were reading, I'm like, don't look at me, don't look at me. Cool, let's go. Thank you. I grabbed his hand and ran out the, front door grabbing my strategically placed backpack on the way jamie didn't even notice it he was
Starting point is 00:20:13 walking faster than i was when we had gotten a decent way into the trees jami turned around and looked briefly at my face before casting his eyes to the ground he rubbed the back of his neck i've actually like wanted to kiss you all summer don't look at me when you do that line read it doesn't help that any time i imagine you as a kid it's just you your head now but on a smaller body i was stunned to silence absolutely dumbfounded that jamie had found the guts to say anything like this i knew any had to fill the awkward silence left in its wake so i did the only thing i could think of i leaned in and kissed him it was if dude why did your lips purse when you said that
Starting point is 00:21:09 he's like leaning over and shit I immediately hate the in-person format because you can do you can do physical bits like right next to me while I'm here and I don't realize them until I wouldn't really want to record in person for like
Starting point is 00:21:26 a long time I can tell it was the awkward first kiss of two 12 year olds but it made me feel warm it's in a flight of butterfly swirling into my stomach so i actually really did like jamie how about that i let him go and his face was the same shade of red that i imagined mine was he quickly changed the subject to how long he'd wanted to ask me out but that he didn't think i liked him back we walked for a while carrying this conversation of oblivious his surroundings me subtly leading the way.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It took him stumbling over the tracks to break off his monologue and finally noticed the backpack. It looked to me like I'd punched him in the face. You can't be serious. Jamie, I know, but look, this is the last time I'm going to see you in a really long time.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And I want to remember today. We will only be out for two hours max. We'll be back before they even realize we're gone. Jamie stared at the tracks for a minute and seemed to be considered. considering it all. I held my breath until he finally let out a deep sigh. Okay. Oh my God, Jamie. I... He held up his finger cutting me off.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But we follow the tracks the entire time and we turn around after an hour. Okay. I was so excited that I hugged him. It would be the first and last time I ever did. Ooh. I want to say too, real quick, this author does a really good job by like setting up mysterious, like, world-building places, like almost, like, fantastical dream, like, who knows if it's real or not? Well, and also the relationships between people quickly. She does a great job at, like, establishing her characters quickly, right?
Starting point is 00:23:17 But in a meaningful way. Like, I feel more attached to these two than I do a ton of the different characters we read about, right? Like, I think of Jamie and Katie, like, more than I think of, I don't know. I mean, characters from stories like 1999, where it's just kind of like a faceless person. So it establish it, not to say that's a bad story, just I'm thinking of a good story in comparison. Like, we have our setup that we like, and it's doing fun stuff with the writing as well, stuff like his face was as red as I imagined mine was. Like there's, you know, fun writing tricks there, but it stays focused on where it wants to go. I think she has a good, you went to good with these stories too, then being 12 years old, that perfect time where it's like youthful ignorance, but also like, like,
Starting point is 00:23:59 like kind of upbeat adventurous kind of you have enough agency to go do stuff but still enough stupidity to put yourself in dumb situations like the innocence of believing that someone like if if if they were 26 you'd be like do you have nothing better to do yeah with time but then being 12 years old I think really leans into that how old were you when you had your first kiss thirty I don't know. I looked at my wife and I was like, I looked at my wife.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Can we kiss or? Also talk about how real that is, though. The little boy asked the girl. I've been wanting to kiss you for a long time. He does. And then now the floodgates are open. And he's just like, yeah, I've been really wanting to ask you out for a long time.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I think that's a very classic young boy. I think that's exactly how mine first kiss went. Oh, yeah. You kissed and I immediately like, oh, yeah, so I think you're really cute and I want to like, you want to go out, you want to date? Like, yeah. There's a lot of people who say a lot of stupid shit after the floodgates are open like that. Yeah. I think I've done you for so much longer.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Do you want to get married? Whatever. As we walked, we talked about all sorts of mundane things. Stopping only to make sure we were still on the tracks. It felt like we had only been walking for 45 minutes, but when Jamie checked his watch, it had been three hours. that's weird it hasn't been three hours it says five o'clock
Starting point is 00:25:33 he trails off I swear we just left after two it can't be five dude your watch is busted he gave him a playful shove Jimmy raised his eyebrow at me and smiled even so we should probably turn around
Starting point is 00:25:50 he wasn't wrong the sun was setting the shadows were long and looking around I wondered if it really was 5 o'clock. But I wasn't ready to give up just yet. As we had been walking, I noticed something taking shape off to our
Starting point is 00:26:06 right. A large mass, maybe a quarter mile away. It was denser than the area around it and seemed to have clean, man-made lines. Jamie, look. He turned. Yeah, I was hoping
Starting point is 00:26:22 you hadn't noticed it. It's a long way off though. We would never find the tracks again. Yes, we would. Check it out. I triumphantly pulled the spray pan out of my backpack. It's for the trees. He took the can and shook it. It made an experimental X on a nearby tree.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Okay, but I get to do the spraying. And I didn't argue. The closer we got to the mass, the more it took shape. First, we could tell it was a building. Then we could tell it was church. By the time we got to the front door, we were looking at a very old and dilapidated chapel. Remembering my camera, I took a picture of the wooden plaque over the door.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Whatever had been written on it had long ago worn away. We walked around the church in awe. The building was small, maybe 500 square feet. The windows were surprisingly all intact, but were so caked with dirt and grime that we couldn't see anything inside. How do we get in? I asked quietly. I don't know, but we're going to have to figure it out. Wait until my brother hears about this.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I mean, holy shit, look at this place. His excitement was contagious. The front door had a pull handle, but tries we might, we couldn't seem to open the door. Do you think it's locked? I asked as I watched Jamie struggle with it. Yeah, maybe. I mean, it must be. There was a door around back, though.
Starting point is 00:27:47 The door at the back was a lot more sympathetic and led us in with relative ease. We were standing in a small room with an old wooden desk attached to a wall. There's a small fireplace and old portraits. hung up around the tiny office. The people in the pictures were all standing in front of the same maroon background and were looking down at us disapprovingly. Books were scattered everywhere, most in a language I had never seen before. The floor was covered in dirt, a pair of old shoes were laying haphazardly in one corner.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Whoa. I said in awe. Yeah, whoa. I looked over at Jamie, who had a huge smile on his face. He was holding up a cross and a piece of paper. What is it? I walked over to see It's a list of names
Starting point is 00:28:32 There's like 60 people in this list Maybe a town census Let me see I pulled my flashlight out of my backpack And shine it on the parchment Deepwood Do you think this is the name of the town All these names are crossed out
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'll accept this one I pointed to a name at the very bottom Maybe it was the plague You think it's a list of the dead Jamie shrugged Makes as much sense as anything else. I walked over to the desk and leaned against it.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Why do you think they left? I mean, look, there's a jacket or something on that chair. His shoes over there? The town pastor or whatever, he just took off and left everything like this. Or died. Said Jamie as he folded the paper and put it
Starting point is 00:29:18 into my backpack. Yeah, died. Either way, it must have been creepy as hell to be alone in here. I stared at one of the portraits for several long seconds. The young woman painted there seemed to be staring down at me with a very accusatory look made me incredibly uncomfortable so basically just to recap this is just a small little church books all over the floor there's like people's clothes kind of scattered around here and there but then like it's
Starting point is 00:29:44 pretty well in shape like the inside of it they didn't say that it's like decrepit or well it's an abandoned church well it's abandoned but they're saying that like the the the deep reds and like the paintings and stuff like that. It's not like destroyed, but I think it's been abandoned for a long time. Because like there's the list of names and there's the paintings and stuff. But there's like books across the floor that are laid open. And they also mentioned like maybe the plague got them, which obviously wouldn't be the plague is an European plague.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But I could see two kids thinking like, oh, 100 years ago, the plague, sure, you know. Yeah. It's something trying to justify like a mass death. Yeah. kind of like there was some huge because there's 60 names all of them are crossed out except one and then you have like the
Starting point is 00:30:32 the paintings of people along the walls that all have like the same matching background which is interesting I just want to appreciate like how well the author sets up mystery in such a short amount of time because I'm in I want to know
Starting point is 00:30:47 like they said the name Deepwood right was that on a piece of paper yeah I think it was the let me see here. Pulled the flashlight backpack and shine it on the parchment. And the deep wood, do you think that's the name of the town? Yes. Yeah. So on it, it says deep wood. So like, name of the town was deep wood. It's abandoned. There's an empty church. The, the books are in languages they can't read. Probably my first thought, this is Pennsylvania, maybe Germanic
Starting point is 00:31:12 or Dutch populations. Yeah, I was saying like an old kind of like Dutch, like really kind of like almost Amish church. Yeah. Yeah. Classic wooden, like, like it doesn't have to be a supernatural reason for the books to be a different language. Sure. But it adds to the mystique of everything. Yeah, I thought it'd be really funny if it was in Spanish. She's like a language I've never seen before. It's like all the other books are in English, but one Spanish books out. She's like, whoa, what?
Starting point is 00:31:39 You think a demon wrote this? And it's just like... I don't know. It's just like the giving tree in Spanish. Yeah, Spanish for dummies. Yeah. Whoa. I was so absorbed in the paintings that I didn't notice the slow creaking from overhead until,
Starting point is 00:31:53 till the ceilings cracked loudly as it started to cave in. I screamed and covered my head, but the next thing I knew, I was lying on my back over the threshold of a door, Jamie on top of me protecting his head. Thanks. I mumbled as I gently push Jamie off of me. Don't mention it.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Jamie climbed to his feet and brushed himself off. I glanced behind him at the office, which was now filled floor to ceiling with decaying debris. Jamie, that was our way out. That's okay. we can lock the front door now that we're inside or break one of the windows if the back office was unsettlingly the chapel was downright disturbing even though the grimy windows allowed very little sunlight in it can make out eight rows of pews lining a narrow aisle and a tall podium at the front
Starting point is 00:32:41 of the chapel jamy and i stumbled around the small nave breaking windows on either side with pieces of wood we had found the sun was still setting and i wondered how much of a difference the muted light would make. When I broke the last window on my side, I turned back around to survey the chapel. Disappointed that the lighting wasn't much better, the room itself seemed to repel light. The wooden pews were completely rotted. In fact, the wood we had used to break the windows of the church were leg stands from the front row. The narrow aisle in between the rows of pews was littered with leaves and rotting wood. But that was nothing. Nothing compared to what set upon the altar.
Starting point is 00:33:25 It wasn't a podium, as I thought earlier. It was a statue of the crucifixion, but unlike any I'd ever seen before. The pain had been worn away on every part of the statue, except the blood of the crucifixion wounds, which stood bright and realistic and seemed to be oozing before our very eyes. The only other surface left untouched
Starting point is 00:33:49 by the decay of time was the face of Jesus. The details of his face were still so incredibly minute, perfect. They had the same accusing eyes as the portraits in the pastor's office. He seemed to be staring directly at me and I could tell Jamie felt
Starting point is 00:34:06 the same, though he was across the room from me. The statue's stare awarded me an edge of panic and I suddenly realized that we needed to leave. We weren't wanted here. I had the sudden feeling that we were
Starting point is 00:34:22 trespassing on some sort of hallowed ground. We had found the church, we had documents proving we had been here, and now it was time to go. I turned to Jamie to tell him so and could immediately tell that he did not share my feelings. He had been born and bred on these legends and nothing was going to tear him away from our discovery. I watched him walk over to grab the camera out of my bag. He took pictures of everything he deemed interesting, including the crucifixion statue, much to my knees. I gave him several minutes before I said something. Jamie, I think we need to leave. I said in a low voice. Jamie stopped and looked up, seeming to remember I was there. Are you kidding? This is what we came here for. We have to bring some evidence of all of it.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's going to be dark in half an hour. It's already hard to see in here. Duh, that's why I'm using a flash. Hey, could you get a picture of me next to the creepy jean? Jesus thing? Um, I guess. Whoa, the forever bleeding statue. Yo, get a picture. I'm gonna pog at it. Give me a picture. I mumbled as I took the camera from him. I didn't even want to look at it, much less photograph it.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But if it would help me get him out of here, I was going to stomach it. Jamie wrapped his arm around it just as I snapped the picture. Don't touch it. Oh, crap. Why did you touch it? There's something off about that thing, Jamie. Can we freaking go now? Yeah, fine. Jamie walked over and picked up the backpack as I headed towards the front door. I noticed there was no lock on it.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I pushed against the door as hard as I could. It didn't budge. My heart sank. There wasn't even a handle or a knob. It was just a solid piece of wood with strange markings on it. Symbols I'd never seen before. Jamie, the door stuck. I said as I turned around to see,
Starting point is 00:36:21 see him testing a piece of floor with his foot. What are you doing? I asked, hearing the edge of panic in my voice. He was still at the front of the chapel, a foot from the Jesus statue, hopping back and forth from one part of the floor to the another. Statue's eyes seem to be only on
Starting point is 00:36:37 him now. There's something under here. See? I heard the floorboard creak under his left foot as he put white on it. Jamie, don't. No, it's like under the dirt right here. The floor is hollow. he kneeled down and started digging through the thin layer of dirt
Starting point is 00:36:54 it's like a trap door or something and it was indeed a trap door the time i had walked the length of the pews jamie already had the edges dug halfway out let's just leave it and your brother and his friends can come back and see what it is please jamie i want to go there's something wrong with this place terribly wrong the thought of spending one more minute here had me on the precipice of a panic attack, something I hadn't experienced in over a year. I sat down against the front pew and put my head down.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I heard of roaring in my ears and my breathing grew labored. I had to leave here, even without Jamie. I rocked back and forth for a few minutes as I tried to call myself down. I wouldn't climb out of a window and run in any direction. It didn't matter. There's something here under the church. Jamie's voice sounded a million miles. miles away. By the time I pulled myself together enough to lift my head, Jamie was knelt
Starting point is 00:37:55 next to me. I didn't know you were claustrophobic. At least that's what I think Jamie said. I better remember the horror I felt as I stared at the hole in the floor. Jamie had opened the trap door. Two minutes. Jamie said as he stood up. We go down, we take a couple pictures of whatever's down there and we come right back up and leave. Just two minutes, Katie. That's all I'm asking. I wanted to say no. I intended to, but I felt myself slowly nodding as Jamie pulled me to my feet. To this day, I don't understand why I agreed, but I suppose that's better that what
Starting point is 00:38:30 happened down there didn't happen to Jamie alone. We're going to come back with a story of a lifetime. What if there's a valuable stuff down there or something? Old shit is always worth money. We could be rich, so rich that your family could stay here. You could buy the house you're living in and come to school with me in September. Remember. This is incredibly sad. Well, it's kind of, what I like about this so far is like the awkward kid that you kind of rooted for is now, it's, it's turned very creepy.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah. Well, he's now manipulating. Well, it's interesting because she started by manipulating him of being like, well, I'm going to flirt with him. Yeah. And now he's now he's like, okay, well, if it is really here and we found it, this is the story that everyone's talked about for so many years. So I want to go see it. And also it's like, oh, well, if we get rich, then maybe you could stay. maybe you can buy the house it's like uh do you think it's more malicious or just like foolhardy i think he's saying whatever he can to stay in the situation or is it he actually does like her and he's like i'm sure it's a mixture of both but i think at the moment it's the same i think that it's a mirror of what she did earlier of like oh i'm flirting with him in the guise of wanting somebody to like you know impress me so someone will go with me there i think that it's something similar where i think he does like her, but I still think
Starting point is 00:39:47 it's one of those things where he's like, and also when we go down there and find something, we're probably going to be rich. You know, it's like he's kind of... She's trying to talk her into it somewhere. Yeah, leading her along down this thing, comforting her to... I'll also say, like, the setting they're in is very, very frightening. Yeah. Very well done.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I hate that this is a short story, because I want this to, I want to see whatever, what else is in these other buildings and whatever else, but also just to spend more time in this church. I love the idea of that statue, kind of like, It looks like it's still bleeding. I like the idea that it looks like
Starting point is 00:40:19 both of them feel like it's looking at them. But when Jamie gets to the trap door, she says it seems the statue's only looking at him now. Which is a very, like the idea of the visual because like it's creepy for one, the idea of like the crucifixion, but in my head it's very like emaciated
Starting point is 00:40:36 and spider-like depiction of Jesus, you know, like very spread out. Yeah, very spread out and stuff and it's still bleeding, but it's like looking straight down The agony face of the whole like, oh, yeah, yeah, walking around. You ever seen those fucked up paintings? You ever see like a portrait of somebody and it does look like their eyes follow you? Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, that's like, that's the weird thing about those optical illusions. But if you're in a weird, horrifying space, it's very easy to let your mind run wild and be like, this thing is fucking... There's that painting's something else than just a painting. Yeah. I'm a huge fan of this so far. Yeah. Like, it's got me hooked, yeah. I love that immediately it feels like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:14 just a really solid writer. It feels like if you ever read anything else from hers, it's just going to be solid. Yeah, I feel like she's a safe bet to go with. It is very like, at the beginning, I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:41:25 this wraps of Barasco, which it does a little bit. But I feel like it's diverted enough. It has its own identity. I think people are also always going to find their tropes that they have in some ways. Writing about a kid in a small town. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:39 exactly. I think that it's, you're probably going to pull from very similar places, I would assume. And we've also, I mean, I have no idea, how many work she has.
Starting point is 00:41:46 She could have hundreds and we've just picked the two about kids. Who knows, right? Because we are YouTubers that is our thing. It's true. I managed a small smile. Of all the things someone could think to buy with wealth, Jamie's first thought was to keep me here with him. He was right.
Starting point is 00:42:02 There could be anything down there and almost all old stuff was valuable. I took a deep breath. Okay, two minutes. I agreed. As we leaned over the trap door and peered down, the first thing we noticed was an intense heat emanating upwards from the hole. Second, it was a strangely out-of-place spiral staircase leading into the depths below.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Jamie rolled the flashlight over to me with his foot, and I picked it up as he pulled his lighter out of his pocket. Ladies first. He smirked at me. I stared at him, slack-jawed. No way. You found this door. You go first. Between the black staircase and the heat, I feel like we're descending directly into hell.
Starting point is 00:42:43 and I'm not going first. Cross my arms and glared at him to reinforce my point. Jamie simply shrugged and stepped on to the staircase. The only real place I have to suspend my disbelief with this story is that two 12 year olds would keep going, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Like I get to, I get all the way to breaking into the church. Like I probably would have done something like that if I was a friend when I was, especially if it was too impressive girl. I would do some really dumb stuff. But I feel like the door, the trap door is like, no.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I think realistically, yes, but I think once again that's what I was saying earlier is you have that that nice element of youthful ignorance or kind of like ignorance is bliss, being young and not really understanding the severity of something. Granted, you can still see something that's dark or whatever and be afraid of it, but I think that's where
Starting point is 00:43:35 this story you get a lot of leeway whenever you age people in this kind of age range is because there really shouldn't be a lot of like, not necessarily intelligence, but just, I guess, social cues or, you know, stuff like that. I took several deep breaths as I watched his head disappear into the darkness below. Almost didn't follow him.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I was still deciding when he yelled at me to shine the flashlight down the stairs so he could see. I started down the stairs after him. They went down much farther than I thought, and it became warmer and warmer the further down we went. When we finally reached the bottom, I was holding back what threatened to be a massive anxiety, the attack. We were farther beneath the church than I thought we'd be, and it was hot,
Starting point is 00:44:18 muggy, and difficult to breathe. Hoping to get this over as fast as possible, I swung the flashlight around the chamber, hoping to reveal its hidden treasure. What I saw there, I can never describe, though I have tried many times. The room was entirely empty, save two things. one was a desk in the corner much like the one in the pastor's office the second was another statue this one was roughly 12 feet tall it remains to this day the most terrifying thing i have ever seen to put it mildly it was some sort of demon towered over us and as such i could only see the bottom of its jaw from where I was. It was looking directly
Starting point is 00:45:10 ahead of it. At the staircase we had just descended. Its tail was long and swept around the entire room. There wasn't a lot of room to move. It had claws, like any modern depiction of a demon, and as I moved around
Starting point is 00:45:26 the chamber to view its profile, I noticed it had horns as well. Neither Jamie nor I spoke as we shuffled around the room, our backs to the wall, as far away from the demon as physically possible i stepped carefully over the tell as i made my way to its back and came around to the other side of the statue i couldn't take my eyes from it i couldn't trust it if the statue upstairs seemed to bleed what could this one do so i eyed the talons on the gigantic stone feet jamie broke the silence can you believe this shit
Starting point is 00:46:02 his voice was coming from the other side of the room i searched the darkness for the weak glow of his lighter and was relieved to see it moving towards me. I turned my flashlight upward to shine it on the side of the demon's head. The horns had to be at least a foot tall. As I brought it down to see where Jamie was, I hit my arm on something hard. My head. Jamie squeaked as my flashlight fell to the ground and rolled under the desk. God damn it, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I whispered in a panic. I dropped to my knees and felt around under the desk, searching for the flashlight. what it's not my fault you cracked on my head you cracked me on my head i stood back up and swung the light around to see jamie trying to relight his lighter but it wasn't him that stopped me dead i will forever be frozen in that moment i don't know why i couldn't speak couldn't stream couldn't move all i could feel was my own in turn descent into madness As I had moved the beam of light up to Jamie's face, I had seen another face right next to his. A twisted, angry, soulless face.
Starting point is 00:47:17 The demons. The statue had bent down and turned to the side. Its head mere inches from Jamie's, and it was staring at me. I cannot describe its face, and I am not sure my mind will ever let me remember it in detail. It shook me to my core in a literal sense. my body was having a dark, violent, visceral reaction to this impossibility. Jamie finally noticed the flashlight shaking in my hand and turned to see what I was looking at. It wasn't until he started screaming that I was shaken for my paralysis.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I dropped the flashlight, Jamie dropped everything else, and we ran. Do you think it's like just a stone, still a stone statue, or do you think it has like fleshy kind of? So in my head, this is kind of like a, you remember the Exorcist, Azuzu statue. Kind of like that, where it's like this weird combination of like demonic imagery, animal imagery, human imagery, like the biblically accurate demon, right? It has these massive, like the horns are a foot tall, right?
Starting point is 00:48:17 And I don't imagine that it's detailed. I think it's still the statue, but I think it's much more animated now. Like maybe the expression on it has changed or something like that. Even the idea of it like twisting and it's like in a completely new position. Yeah, like it can bend and stuff like that. Also, is the room, did they say, is it just like a dirt floor room? Like, it's just underground? Or is there actual flooring?
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm, like, perceiving it in different ways. Kind of think of it as a cave almost. That's what I... It's creepier to me of going down, dirt floor, like, no actual structural shit. In my head, it's like a cavern down there. Yeah. And there's a desk in there. Also, the whole thing, making it seem hotter.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Seems like she's like almost crawling into the depths of hell. It's like you're getting closer to hell down there. Also, it's subtle, but I really like the mention of, of the desk was much the same to the one of the pastor's office. It's a reflection. It's a reflection, but it also implies, especially because the passage way to this was at the altar of a church, that whoever the pastor was that was leading that church up there, was actually, was actually worshipping whatever this demon was down there, right?
Starting point is 00:49:20 And the difference between the Jesus and the demon and stuff, and perhaps whatever happened to this town was a part of that doing. So, so many, yes, yeah, a lot like borderlands. Like, there's this entity beneath that is dictating what, they do above. And it's so much world-building, like, imagination in your head established with the sentence of, there was a desk in the room similar to the pastors. Boom, like that ties everything together. You can do so much with just a sentence or two. Yeah, fires your fucking neurons for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Like, so far, Rebecca, like two for two.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah. I'm curious to see where it goes. Because also, mind you earlier, she did say this is the last time she saw him or last time that. She hugged him. Yeah. Yeah, hugged him. Also, they keep doing this thing where it's like, they keep conning in the story. So it's like big picture at the beginning. Then there's something like, I'll never forget what happened.
Starting point is 00:50:15 So what we're about to read about is something intense. Then it's like, I hugged him or whatever. Last time I ever would. Okay, from here to the next time we're coned in more, something intense. And then it got all the way to when they get to the basement. Like, I'll never forget what happened. It's like, this is the moment. The basement we're about to go in is where things change.
Starting point is 00:50:32 So it's like, it's this interesting way to keep you engaged through the process while you're still pretty much getting exposition early on and stuff like that. It's just good riding. Yeah, no, it's awesome. We took the stairs two and three at a time. Jamie pushing me up ahead of him. Halfway up, I slipped and we both went tumbling down halfway to the bottom. In that horrible moment, we heard the grinding of stone against stone and we knew the statue was moving.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Oh, that's so sick. Jamie screamed, but I was mute. too horrified to make a sound we got up and kept climbing never taking our eyes off the small dying light above us our only salvation now we were almost to the top when we first heard it on the stairs it was so large and heavy that the entire staircase shook with the impact terrified that the stairs would come crashing down and we would be left alone with it below we jumped the last three steps jamy pushed me up out of the opening he climbed out after me and tried to slam the trapdoor shut, but it was somehow stuck.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We could hear the deafening thunder on the staircase as the statue slowly climbed the steps. I helped Jamie try to push the trapdoor closed for the first time, noticed the symbols on the bottom of the wood, the same as those on the front door. Before I could begin to comprehend this, I noticed the demon first penetrate the shaft of life on the staircase below. It was coming. Jamie saw it too and pulled me to a standing position while pointing at the front door.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We both ran at it as hard as we could, but when we hit it, it didn't budge. We tried again, but it was unsympathetic. Katie, the windows. We ran to the closest one and tried to climb up to the wall to get out, but the windows were too high. The thunder from below was getting louder, closer. It was more than halfway up the stairs. We tried to climb on the rotting pews to reach the windows, but they crumbled under our weight. I'll push you out. Give me your foot.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Jamie yelled over the sound, bellowing from below. I shook my head I wanted to God I wanted to but I couldn't leave him I couldn't leave Jamie to face that thing alone we both looked over at the door again our only chance was to keep
Starting point is 00:52:42 trying to break it down we stumbled back into the aisle and ran to the front door with everything we had I thought I felt it move we backed up even further and ran out of it again this time the impact knocked me backwards into the aisle and Jamie barely stayed on his feet he looked at me in horror
Starting point is 00:52:58 and I turned around to see stone horn rising up from the darkness of the trap door three feet from where I sat we were going to die here I stood up refusing to turn around again I knew that the next step it it took would bring its head into the room and the thought of seeing its face again had me running at the door with every last bit of strength I had Jamie reached it at the same time and I felt it give way as we crashed through the threshold and landed outside the church Jamie had picked me up off the ground before I could think to move and we were running toward the train tracks at an Olympic sprint. We could still hear the thundering on the stairs no matter how far we got from the church.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Every step echoed through the woods like a gunshot until they stopped. It was here. I had no idea if we had run in the right direction or if we would forever be lost in the woods. It was now dark outside and the temperature was dropping fast. I was beginning to panic that we would never find the train tracks when I noticed Jamie wasn't next to me anymore I turned around and panic
Starting point is 00:54:05 to find him sprawled on the ground a few yards behind me he had tripped over one of the rails he was up and running down the tracks before I could even ask if he was okay we ran until we couldn't anymore our running eventually slowed to a jog and the jog to a walk
Starting point is 00:54:22 we hadn't spoken neither of us had any idea what to say and it wasn't until we both got in our breath back that one of us finally broke the silence. How long have we been on the tracks? Jamie's voice had an edge of barely suppressed fear. I looked at his wrist and noticed his watch missing. It didn't take us this long to get to find that place.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Or did it. Do you think maybe we went the wrong way? Jamie asked hesitantly. I couldn't afford to think like that. If we had somehow got and turned around and ran the wrong way down the train, train tracks than we were deeper into the woods than ever. No, we went the right way.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I said to convince myself. That thing. I thought it was a statue. But maybe it was some crazy undiscovered giant reptile that was like hibernating and we woke it up. So we were going to dilute ourselves into thinking that there was a scientific explanation for this. I understood why, but I just couldn't accept it. Yeah. Did you, um, do you see the weird writing on the front?
Starting point is 00:55:26 door. It was on the trap door, too. Do you think it was keeping it down there? Because, Jamie, all those doors are open now. Well, if it's an animal, words mean nothing to it anyway. Yeah, if. Trailed off hoping you would challenge my implication. He didn't. That's, that's, uh, I like the, uh, kind of the justification to yourself. Because it's clear that like, okay, whatever this church was whatever potentially these people were they were trying to keep it down there right like the incantations and they the kids basically broke all the seals to it and uh it's like jamie we opened all of it james like yeah well lizards can't read katie let's be honest you fucking drop it let's love the idea of two 12 year old just like
Starting point is 00:56:18 unleashing a demon back into the world yeah that would be the most plausible thing too about two kids just being like i don't know let's let's let's let's crawl down there. Spells and shit on the door. I don't know what that is. I can't read anyway. Also, do you think that the books also were in that language that was on? I think it's Latin.
Starting point is 00:56:37 You think it's Latin? I think it's certainly Latin. Probably some books of spells or some shit. I don't know. I also think that it now makes sense. See, this is why I mean about like good world building. It now makes sense why all the adults in town didn't want to talk about it. What about the Lost Town?
Starting point is 00:56:53 lost town, whatever, you know, because I'd imagine there were some survivors, at least a couple of this whole experience, right? And the town is lost because something is stuck down there. What was the town called again? Deep Woods. No, no, no, the town that she moved to. Did she say? I thought that they did at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It was something similar to Deepwoods, I thought. I just didn't know if it's going to be, oh, this is a new sect of the town that was prime, who was known as Deepwoods before. Hold on. Stand by. I'll get down to this really quick. quick. New work. Store in Pennsylvania. Store decided to take me with him. Suburbs. Our neighbor was new.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Lonewood. Lonewood's the name of the town. So you're probably right. Oh, it seems too similar to have it just be, you know. I bet you're right. I hope there's some more flirting scenes. Keep throwing. Oh, do you between the 12 year olds? I don't know. So are you still going to stay in town? It's like, no, there's a fucking demon.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Well, okay, I guess. All right. I could tell this was something Jamie's mind wouldn't accept. But he hadn't seen its face. Not like I had. It was no animal. It was made of stone. It was something sinister and anciently evil,
Starting point is 00:58:12 and it had seen me and had seen right down into my soul. It was aware of me, and I was aware of it. Now, it was free. Whatever had been keeping it beneath the church, had been awkwardly destroyed by Jamie and me. That thing was free to walk the woods and go, God knows where. We walked in silence for another half hour until Jamie suddenly stopped short and started yelling. Hey, we're here!
Starting point is 00:58:40 He booked it down the tracks towards a swarm of flashlights and I followed close behind him. As soon as Jamie reached his parents, he collapsed while I ran into my mother's arms and cried like a child. I couldn't hold it together any longer. The police report says we were found at 4 a.m. By our sense of time, about three hours after the sun had sat. We had spent less than an hour in the chapel, and yet we seemed to have lost 10 hours there. We were never told anyone where we had actually been, or that we had found the lost city of Deepwood. He simply said we went for a walk to the lake and got lost in the woods.
Starting point is 00:59:19 my family left Middlesboro the following Monday two days ahead of schedule my father had another store to open and there really and there was really no reason to wait Jamie didn't come to say goodbye to me and after we left Middlesboro I never saw him again I kept a copy of the police report to remember him
Starting point is 00:59:40 over the following year Middlesbrill slowly disappeared first I could just feel the memory fading unnaturally from my mind my parents could remember that we had ever been there which scared me more than anything else i taped the police report to the ceiling over my bed so that jamie would be the first and last thing i thought about every day then the middlesborough city website disappeared as did that of the local paper in the town's two public schools store my dad helped open in 2002 also disappeared from
Starting point is 01:00:16 the company's website after that i can never find any mention of middle school borough anywhere online ever again. Over the years, I searched public records for Jamie's full name and found nothing. I hired someone to illegally search private records and he came up empty two. In the end, the only proof that Jamie ever existed at all was the police report with his name on it. And then nothing was left. One day, the paper I had taped to my ceiling for so many years was blank. I remember what it was and what it was.
Starting point is 01:00:49 it looked like before but now it's just an old weathered piece of blank paper all that remains of middle sprawl and the people who live there are my memories this is why i'm writing this story down and uploading it to the internet once it's on the internet it can never die right or perhaps one day it will just disappear and you won't remember even seeing it and i won't remember ever writing it I can only hope that this ended with Middlesbril. If it has moved on to other towns, who would know?
Starting point is 01:01:23 Who'd even remember? I wish I had answers, but all I have are questions. And that is the end of the lost town of Deepwood, Pennsylvania. I love it. That was great.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That was so awesome. That was great. That was great. I really enjoy. I'm going to start throwing stuff. That was fun. I really love the idea. of the, like a stone demon.
Starting point is 01:01:46 You don't get a lot of, like... You don't get a lot of stone demons. Well, you don't get a lot of, like, statues coming to life even. In a compelling way. Yeah, they're always just like, like a mannequin. Yeah. It's always the Doctor Who Weeping Angel thing, right? We're like, you look at it and it's still and you turn around and it gets closer or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Like, I like the idea of like a living statue where like... Something's so old that it's almost become stone and can move around. And now this thing, you know, like the story it seems now is they were able to trap it at one point. But now these kids fucking Katie, way to go. In my head, in my head, I imagine the statue kind of looking, again, like the ancient depictions of demons where it's animalistic, but it
Starting point is 01:02:24 has like these super like small eyes that are like intense, like, you know, always open and like this, it's kind of like pronounced features, like huge brow and stuff like that, like a very foreboding face, but it's moving, it's alive, you know? Yeah. The scraping of stone and
Starting point is 01:02:40 the kind of audiovisual cues that they had in the story were pretty haunting too. I mean, that real scraping edge and the loud, thunderous steps that it had to. I like the idea, too, that it is, um, like, once it got out, it made that town disappear, too. What's I'm saying is, like a mind play. The last, the last town disappeared and they blocked it there. I'm almost wondering if the town disappeared and if it's locked in, uh, Lonewood now. Probably. If it got locked down that way. And for some reason, whatever, people are just gone again. and now this is just going to be another urban legend that people look for as well.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I really like, it's short and sweet. It's definitely one of those things where I could see myself falling into a story like this, though, like a Barrasca time jump. Oh, yeah. And then all of a sudden, you know, she goes back or... Yeah, there's two other parts. Yeah, looks like the other two parts are... Return to Deepwood and Death of Deepwood.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah, so maybe in the future we'll have to check those out sometimes, too. I agree. You know, and there wasn't a child sex? There wasn't. Embraining plant this time. There wasn't. Is that a negative or is that a positive? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:45 For YouTubers, there's no way to tell. This is the second author we've looked at two of their stories, right? Because, uh, Tommy Taffy, yeah, what was the author's name for Tommy Taffy? Yes, Elias Witherow. Thank you. Yeah, Elias, I did that and feed the pig. And we loved Feed the Pig. That one's great. Feed the Pig was good. And I still stand by a little bit of discourse.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, it did, but I still, I really like Tommy Taffy. I thought it was scary. I think that it has its place for sure. I like Feed the Pig better, to be clear. I like feed the pig. The description of. the guy going into the pig's mouth is just so great that that was an all-time remember Tommy Taffia is a internet creepy pasta I think has its place is like this is Primo yeah creepy pasta
Starting point is 01:04:22 bullshit whatever but we're proving here that you know you don't have to have I don't know the I liked how Barasca is like you think it's going to be something paranormal of some kind and then it turns into a very real world horror kind of like enslavement trafficking kind of thing and this one took a very similar in tone, but it did go into that fantasy, spiritual kind of stuff. I'm also always a sucker for put me in a fucking dilapidated church, give me some religious iconography that is bleeding or oozing. And I'm going to have a good time. Yeah. I like that shit. It's hard to not have a good time. Yeah. So this is right at my alley. And I'd be curious, too, with these other sequels, if we just had to speculate on it now, would it be something where
Starting point is 01:05:07 she comes back and do we see the same kind of demon or is it something where does it reset? Is there more differences or? I think it might be the same demon. I think we're going to see more of the cult or whatever. Maybe it's not even a cult. Whoever was trying to stop it way back. At the end of that I'm curious
Starting point is 01:05:23 do you still think that to me it seems like a religious guy who was keeping evil at bay is how I'm reading it versus a facade of and then worship. Potentially but the desk in the room with it tips me off a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it does, it does seem evil versus it just being like, oh, it's just a statue in there.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Sure. The desk in the room makes it sound like there's a piece with it almost, right? Now, something I really do like in hindsight is all the paintings and the pictures of the people there, as well as the statue of Jesus, looked on the kids with an accusatory look. Yeah. Almost of like, you don't know how much we suffered to keep this thing locked up, and now you're going to go open the box. That's kind of something with a lot of old churches in general, too, the very kind of like feel, you should feel bad. for even existing, that's kind of like a big part of it. You know that, that's an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:06:11 The story starts out with the tone of like, this is like your typical, like scary religious setting, right? Like the old timers who look at you angry and like, oh, the Jesus cross looks evil and stuff. But now with hindsight attached to it, it's like, no, they were trying to protect the people around there. These kids are about to let that loose. It's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:29 It's one of those things where even you see that in Barasco where it's like people know about this dark secret. Which is also, I almost, if this was longer, I'm curious to see if would you have something with the older kids going and with the flashlights and the beers and stuff
Starting point is 01:06:42 do they actually know where it is or is it just the presumption that you think that they're looking for that thing because you never really know yeah right Jamie's just kind of like oh they're probably looking for this yeah but you never I mean who knows
Starting point is 01:06:54 so I'm sure they'll come up in the next parts yeah I imagine so it's just it leaves a lot of fun stuff sometimes these stories end and you're just kind of like oh well you know or ends on that cliffhanger where it's like and we never
Starting point is 01:07:07 heard from him again. Yeah. But this is something where, you know, I want more information. I want to be different. But I don't think if you just stop now, too, it would still be a fun. It still works for what it is. Yeah, it's still a working story, I think. I'm very happy with it.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I would like to read the other two parts sooner than later, though. Yeah, I think that would be worth doing it for sure. Let's see what our beautiful, beautiful viewers have to say. And I don't know, maybe we'll have to read this again soon. Like, I don't know. And then maybe we can kiss. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Thank you all for watching. Thank you all for a second. Thank you all for watching. Creepcast. This has been another enthralling, spooky episode. And also live tour coming up. By the time this episode drops, I think we'll be on the road. I think so.
Starting point is 01:07:59 So, you know, we'll read this one and then we should give them a prompt or something. So when you listen to this, whenever you go to the show, in the first five minutes, I'm going to say banana at some point. And then people need to put their hands behind their head like this and do them. So that way, we know who is there and who wasn't. I'm like, yeah, I really like bananas. And I'll look out and I'll see people do it. And for audio listeners, I'm putting my... I think I would rather them do anything else. Actually. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying that here, Here, hey, we're trying to get a sponsorship, right?
Starting point is 01:08:37 What's your favorite drink, Mountain Dew? Mountain Dew. So when we say, what's your favorite drink? Say Mountain Dew, there you go. Don't do that. Mountain Dew? Okay. Yeah, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Very excited to see you all on the tour. Hunter's about to have a panic attack over it, but I'm excited to see you guys. So I'll be happy to kiss babies and shake hands and all that stuff, and he won't, so. That's the way it is, you know. But we appreciate you all watching on YouTube and also all the support on the audio.
Starting point is 01:09:04 platforms like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all that jazz, and also, once again, be on the lookout next month, I believe, for the Creepcast hoodies that are coming. They are, you know, I'm just trying to reiterate because I know last time people were like, how do you know, or I missed out too soon? So just be on the lookout. Be on the lookout coming up. All right, everyone. Bye. Bye. Stay spooky. Can I go home now? Yeah. Okay. You are home. You've been home. Bye, everyone. Welcome back to Creepcast. Actually, if anything, we're going to do it also say this is a welcome back.
Starting point is 01:09:44 It's the same episode. That's right. We were going to release the first part when we were together. But then we thought the episode was so good that we should just go ahead and read all of them. So this is just a continuation from the lost town of Deepwood, Pennsylvania. And now the sequel. And it's a three part or so. return to Deepwood, Pennsylvania, and the death of Deepwood, Pennsylvania, I think are the next
Starting point is 01:10:09 stories. But I figured we should go ahead and just start reading, return to Deepwood and just keep going. Also, should we do like a little, we shouldn't, it doesn't matter. This show is just a convoluted way for us to, uh, read stories that we like and get paid for it. So we were like, deep woods was cool. So let's finish it. Yeah, I saw a lot of people. I just wanted, I want to take a second to say something. I want to take a fucking second to say something. The response to people say that we were going to miss a week, let me tell you something. If we want to take a week to get you a goddamn episode, then you're going to sit there politely and we're going to pat your head and you're going to shut the hell up and wait until we get the goddamn episode out.
Starting point is 01:10:53 All right? Because also, Isaiah, you know that if we wouldn't have done that, people would have been like, I wish they would have just released it all in one episode. well that's what you get this is what it is we knew for a fact everyone would be like well why do you read parts two three right there a average average creepcast average creepcast sounding person that's what our that's what our that's that's very true that's very true they sound exactly like your dog shortly after it was shot by your grandfather I just want to say
Starting point is 01:11:32 that between us recording in person and now that episode has gone up and I'm glad everyone else thought it was as absolutely bonkers. Nobody really cared. The story is I did. Nobody there was really no conversation about it. We are. It definitely wasn't the funniest thing I've ever seen. I've seen so many edits of like Stephen Hawking approaching a dog in a forest at night. It's just, uh, beautiful. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Well, we're also on tour right now. Um, by the time you're watching this. So that's cool. I had a crazy dream.
Starting point is 01:12:08 What was your dream? That we got booed off stage at our first show. You are terrified of this, aren't you? It's an actual nightmare. I, and I'm not going to lie. I have been, ever since Sunday,
Starting point is 01:12:21 my stomach's been in knots. I've been having diarrhea, like nervous shits. And I have a feeling we're going to, we're going to, we're going to shit the bed big time. The only saving grace, I think we've said this before.
Starting point is 01:12:32 The only saving grace is if I shit myself on stage And it's that memorable That was not okay, we've talked about that But that was not a saving grace It was like a worst case scenario No, no, that's a saving grace at this point The substance is going to be so poor So lackluster
Starting point is 01:12:45 That it's going to take one of us To either have a heart attack on stage Or shit themselves And I gotta say I am probably the candidate for both Hunter Hunter Hunter, listen People who come to these shows Want to have a good time You're not gonna have a good time
Starting point is 01:13:00 We don't have to be at our very, very best, like 10 out of 10 for people to have a good time. We absolutely do it. They're paying people. They pay for the show. It's a performance. And we're going to put on a good show for them. I'm not saying we're not going to do that. But they want to have a good time. We just have to offer it up. This was full. I am showing to the camera right now. I'm showing a almost empty bottle of Captain Morgan private stock that was that was full on Saturday. All right. And sure you could equate a lot of this to the Chiefs game. The big win we had on. on Sunday. But a lot of that is nerves. All right? So there you go. Anyways, I forgot where you were reading an episode. So with all of that out of the way, let's continue on to part two. Let's do it. Return to Deepwood, Pennsylvania. Harrisburg is an antiquated yet charming Pennsylvania town on the Susquehanna River with roots reaching back into the 18th century. At least, that's what the tourism brochure read. I'd really have to take their word for it. I'd researched a lot of Pennsylvania townships in the last year, but this wasn't one of them.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I handed the brochure back to the tall, red-faced girl behind the hotel desk. She sniffed loudly as she took it and unceremoniously slid my credit card back across the counter at me. Thanks. I muttered. The girl dropped a brass key on the counter, which I eyed with suspicion. I hadn't seen a hotel with actual brass keys since I was a kid. I didn't know if it was my limited funds or Harrisburg's antiquity. charm at work. But either way, it's in an involuntary shutter down my spine. Room 217, checks out
Starting point is 01:14:40 tan. The girl said, wiping her small, watery eyes with the back of her sleeve. Eager to be done with it, I hadn't bothered to ask where to find room 217. When I finally located it on the other side of the building, I was exhausted and ready for whatever waited me on the other side of the door. It was as you suspect, dated, droll, and dusty. I took a short shower and spread my maps out on the painfully flat yet somehow still lumpy hotel mattress. It was strange to be back in Pennsylvania after all these years. Honestly, I was just happy it was still there. I had spent years trying to pretend I dreamed it all,
Starting point is 01:15:18 trying to convince myself that I had a very vivid psychotic breakdown and I'd never actually been a Pennsylvanian at all. And I might have believed it too. if it weren't for Jamie. He was as real to me as the face in the mirror. I couldn't have dreamed him up if I'd wanted to. And if he had been real, then so had everything else. The damn church, the demon, and the hell I'd brought down on Middlesboro.
Starting point is 01:15:46 How many more had died since then? I needed to see for myself. I needed to see for myself. I needed to prove I wasn't crazy. Even if doing it meant I would have to face the consequences of my actions, the death. I stared at my notes and topographical maps until my vision began to blur. I've been researching and preparing for this trip for a year, and yet here I was, in Pennsylvania, still with no real direction.
Starting point is 01:16:12 It had been 13 years since I stepped foot in this state, and only for one of them had I considered coming back. I lived only half a life for the last decade, slowly suffocating under the heavy, pungent cloak of guilt. usually. I could escape it in ambient lace dreams or when I was utterly blackout drunk, which is an easy order to fill when you work in a bar. Yes, ma'am. But a year ago, but a year ago, my tricks had abruptly stopped working and it had been too long since I'd come up for air. I don't know it was time to go back.
Starting point is 01:16:45 So this is, this is after the fact, 13 years. So she's probably mid, mid, mid, late 20s by this point well she said she was 12 or 13 in the first store oh 12 or 13 okay weren't they that they were like 12 or 13 I'm pretty sure I assume that she's like 20 25 26 right about now yeah I'd say that's right and then now because it's been long enough that she's moved and she's back in Pennsylvania remember everyone else has forgotten that the town of Middlesboro ever existed right yeah yeah exactly so but to I like setting up this this character again that has been kind of plagued with this guilt or this kind of yeah you know i say guilt but i would say more so just it just haunting visuals but i
Starting point is 01:17:32 would assume some kind of guilt because yeah she let it out that's what she was saying the hell i unleashed on middlesboro yeah yeah um because the town of deepwoods got wiped off the map but they successfully managed to contain the thing uh and now middlesbril seems to not have done that Also, when she referred back to Jamie, was she saying it was Jamie? I wonder, we haven't said it yet, but do you think that he reached back out to her for this? No, he vanished, remember? The newspaper clipping. Okay, so I know through the bottles of Captain Morgan, it may be hard to remember.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I can't remember any of these fucking stories, dude. I spent an hour trying to find a comfortable position on the worn out hotel mattress. When that failed, I picked up the maps again and studied their details, though I'd memorize them all. Suppose I was waiting for something to just click, some small detail I'd overlooked that would suddenly make all the difference. A clue is clear as daybreak that had been in front of me all along. But none came, and when I woke again, it was buried under a pile of legal pads and maps and suffering a sore back. I showered again, not trusting the comforter, and reluctantly drank the motor oil that passed for breakfast blend coffee. I packed up my research, checked out of the hotel, and set in my car watching the sun slowly brightened the populated downtown area.
Starting point is 01:18:58 At least the creature hadn't made its way here. The city had a population of around 50,000. But how many other cities with similar populations were gone because of me? It wasn't something I wanted an answer to. So I had no other data to go on. My plan was to drive to the least populated areas and see if what wasn't there would give me a clue to what had once been. Basically, I was looking for an area that, by all logic, should have a city, but didn't. But the fort focus and drive and headed west of town.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Half a day was spent driving in the middle of the state, and another two days aimlessly driving around Pennsylvania looking for something familiar. A mountain, a water tower, a road, anything. But it was as if I never lived here at all. On the fourth morning, discouraged and frustrated, I checked out yet another shitty motel. I only had three more days before my flight back to Arizona. far the trip had been utterly useless. The man at the front desk took my key and gesture toward the continental breakfast,
Starting point is 01:19:55 prepackaged muffins, and horse-pissed coffee. No thanks. I grumbled. Is that your voice of this young lady? Yeah. Sorry. No thanks. Well, it said I grumbled, so I was trying to be like, no thanks.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Whatever. Like she's like, yeah, yeah. All right, let me retake it then. Leave the guns. Leave it the old one in. Thank you. there you go. Where are you headed?
Starting point is 01:20:21 Huh? Where are you headed? He repeated more slowly. I couldn't place his accent. The closest I could get was maybe Southern. Oh, I don't know. Well, if you're headed down to 320, gets it before you leave town.
Starting point is 01:20:37 There ain't no gas stations or towns between here and Landenberg. But that's like 90 miles. Yeah, never just did it myself. People get stuck on the. road all the time. Blown tires and run out of gas. I don't know why the government hasn't done something about that. Because they're broke.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Someone yelled from the back office. Yeah, that's it most likely. Stain ain't got no money for it. I'll get gas before I go. I promise and received an approving nod in return. So effectively her little
Starting point is 01:21:13 goof up with Jamie has eliminated 90 miles of civilization. Yeah, I just want to That's what I was going to say. This little fucking oopsie butterfly effect thing really was detrimental. Well, also, here's the thing, too. Here's the thing, too. They've said before that this is, we theorize that this had probably happened to other towns before this.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Before this and before this. Or how often it is. Do you think it's like, do you think the gargoy is something that wakes up and it's almost like, I don't know, trying to think of a similar monster? Like Jeepers' creepers rules is he only wakes up for a certain amount of time every certain amount of years. yeah right so it's like what if what if it's something similar that way there has to be some kind of lapse of time because if it happens so suddenly and all the time i doubt that it could be kept a secret realistically right yeah i mean well the idea is that the deep woods town that
Starting point is 01:22:10 caught it was an old old town right so it was wreaking havoc up until like i don't know or early 1900 late 1800s uh and then they caught it effectively. But now it's unleashed in modern age. Yeah. Well, I guess too, think about all the towns
Starting point is 01:22:26 in your own state that you have no idea that they're even there. You know what I mean? Yeah, this also makes a fun game for yourself whenever you're driving through an area
Starting point is 01:22:37 and it's like, yeah, there ain't a gas station for 40 miles. It's like, oh, why is that? Well, that's like a nice, weird, odd thing.
Starting point is 01:22:45 It's like whenever I drive through like Nevada outside of Vegas, there's like this really long stretch of land between Vegas and some other part I think on the California border where there's like no other gas stations so you have to feel up at this one spot and it does feel kind of almost dystopian
Starting point is 01:23:01 or even kind of like wasteland kind of vibes so to have that in a Pennsylvania setting would be kind of creepy because you're like wait what yeah you're in the middle of the woods while you're doing it yeah it's a fun idea I like it I practically ran out the door for days I've been looking for that
Starting point is 01:23:19 out of place, the not quite right, the bizarre. And this was, well, it was odd, at least. It was all I had. I gassed it before I left town and vaulted the signs to the 320. As promised, it was nothing but dark asphalt for miles. No exits, rest stop, signs, or even mile markers. This was it. It just had to be.
Starting point is 01:23:41 There's no one else on the road. I drove well under the speed limit, taking in every detail. Eventually, I began to notice that periodically there was a gas. Not in the foliage, but in the coloring of it. Every so often, a grove of trees would be duller, sicker. It was something you'd only notice if you were looking for it. So the creature, as I'd taken a calling it, could technically give life in the process of filling in the hold of previous existence, but not very good life.
Starting point is 01:24:09 The fauna in these spots was weaker and bore dull almost muted coloring. I continue noting these spots until I couldn't count them anymore. anymore. These had likely been cities or homes of people with lives, families, futures, all taken from them because of me. I felt the panic began to claim the edges of my vision and quickly popped his annex. My panic attacks had become unbearable after Middlesbril. I suffered from them still. The edges of my vision got hazy and I was able to relax a fraction. At some point, I processed the presence of the dilapidated railroad tracks running parallel to the road. I noticed them early on, but my mind had hidden the significance of this until now.
Starting point is 01:24:53 They had not been the tracks, but to me it was a sign that I was on the right track, so to speak. I was close. I had to be. And if Landenberg was still there, that meant the creature hadn't made it that far yet. I somehow knew, like I knew that I'd once live somewhere off this road, that the creature had been moving north. But it hadn't claimed Leningberg yet. Why? Was it satiated? Had it left the area? Or was it just slow moving? Whatever the answer, I felt I'd learn it in Landenberg. As I reached the outskirts of the city, I saw my first road sign since I merged onto the 320. Landenburg. Next 17 exits. I decided to take the exit that'd give me into the heart of downtown Landenberg, if there was one. I hadn't researched the city of Landenberg either. thinking it was too far north to matter, and yet, here I was.
Starting point is 01:25:52 The downtown area began to take shape off my right like the damn church had in the woods so long ago. But I didn't need spray paint to find my way anymore. Exited the highway and drove around the cityscape until I found a centrally located hotel that I could afford. I parked and heaved my bags out of the car, hoping they had vacancy. They did. I was told by the overly flirty college senior behind the, the front desk, slinging his guitar behind his back. What kind of a loser?
Starting point is 01:26:21 God. Do you have Wi-Fi? I asked as he handed me the key card. We do. But there's a $10 a day charge for the password. Damn. I was on an extremely tight budget. Well, I can give it to you for free.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Let his voice trail off suggestively. If what? I raise a skeptical eyebrow at him. If you let me write a song about you. he writing my credit card receipt so he could read it Caitlin I sighed
Starting point is 01:26:54 okay yeah fine at this point there wasn't much I'd say no to I was going on four days of rest of sleep this is very cute the idea that in a small town like the the controversial thing the guy wants is to write a song
Starting point is 01:27:10 oh yeah definitely the it's cute that the guy's blackmailing the woman so he can force write a love song for her. That is cute. Yeah, you know what? I'm not backing down from this one. That is cute. It's bad of all the things he could have done just being like, Hey, can I write a song about you, Princess,
Starting point is 01:27:26 so we can fall in love and we have sex? Hey, he did. Say, she had to do all that for her to get the password. Well, that's what in the back of his mind, he's like, she'll love the song. That is in the back of his mind. She'll be so happy, and I'll get a slow blowy from it. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Okay. And then he starts playing third eye blind. I wish you, would step back from that ledge, my friend. He's playing guitar like that. Caitlin. And like just starts like, Caitlin never know. She's like, are you saying I'm suicidal? He's like, uh, no.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I don't know. Yeah, that was it. That one was rough. Tor got you nervous, huh, buddy? Yeah, sorry, I'm flustered now. I'm now picturing, singing my own song to all the pretty ladies out there for key cards and Wi-Fi passwords.
Starting point is 01:28:20 See, if you do stuff like that on the tour, I am. You should be embarrassed and you should be nervous about it. Who here wants a love song? What's your name? I was like, Janice. I'm like, ew, gross name. Who's no? What other person?
Starting point is 01:28:33 He eagerly gave me the password and I retired to my room. First floor, thankfully. I took out my shitty laptop, connected to the hotel's equally shitty Wi-Fi, and pulled up the Wikipedia page for Lannenberg. It's a larger city for this part of the state, around 55,000 residents, mostly due to the fact that Lannenberg hosted a state university. It's a progressive, young, educated town filled with hipsters and young professionals.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Where to even begin? I threw my notes, my phone to my GPS in my backpack, and decided to start with the front desk of the motel, much to my own dread. The college kid who checked me in was strumming chords on his guitar and softly humming. Excuse me. He looked up at me and winked. You're pretty eager, Foxy lady. And I like that.
Starting point is 01:29:21 The songs take time to write, even for the most talented. Yeah, actually, I was just wondering, where can I find the university? I interrupted, suppressing an eye roll. Mama, this whole city's a campus. I mean, where'd you want to go? You a new student? I'll show you around. I got off it.
Starting point is 01:29:41 No, I'd just like to find the, uh, that. This has been a horrible mistake. Think of something quick, genius. Admission office, I need to talk to admissions. Ah, well, that's about half a mile down the Rooker Street. That's the one running in front of the building. Got it, thanks. He started to say something else.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Perhaps which way to go down, Rooker, but I was already out the door. Not knowing what else to do and wanting to get as far from the poor get as possible, I picked a direction and started walking. Migtow. Wait, what? Migtow, men going their own way, that subreditor or whatever. Yeah. What what's the reference to this? I think that the just the she's breeding a monster basically with that interaction. Yeah, Chad's always get the Stacey's. Yeah, I guess I'm never I guess I'm never gonna be able to write a fucking beautiful guys guys like me who like music never get what they want nice guys like for sure never get never get ahead. He goes into his full joker
Starting point is 01:30:38 society wonders why we go a little crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then society. you call? I say peacock and no one bats an eye. I say peacock. But if I say poopcock, well, everyone loses their minds. Yeah, everyone loses their freaking minds. Even though it was May, I was still freezing. I'd have been built for the far north and my blood had thinned out living in Arizona. With my backpack in my age, I probably would pass for any other college student on campus. If it wasn't for the hoodie, I'd pulled tightly around me. I envied them all. Kids just a year or two younger than me going to classes,
Starting point is 01:31:21 hanging out with friends, making stupid yet amusing mistakes. Could have been mean ones, but I hadn't grown up like them. Ever since Middlesbril, I had struggled with school and life in general. I couldn't focus. I couldn't laugh. I became a sarcastic, guilt-ridden introvert, and I lost all my friends. Me. Then my dad died, and my mom started to look at me differently.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I stopped talking about Middlesboro the day I heard the word hospital whispered to my mother by a psychiatrist. Even though I stopped trying to prove it had all been real, my mother never really saw me as her little girl again. I moved out at 18 and lived alone for years, working in an English pub, trying to forget how many people were probably dead because me, including Jamie, the knife that dug deepest. I walked the downtown area all day. I didn't know what I was doing, where I was going, who I should approach, or what I should ask them. I just knew I was in the right place. I've been drawn here for a reason. I felt it in my gut. This was where I was supposed to be, but for the fifth time in as many days, I had asked myself, what now? I suppose I
Starting point is 01:32:33 could have spent days wandering around Lanhamburg. I could have left empty hand and had never known what happened all those years ago. I could have never found him. But as fate would have have it, it only took half a day to find what I was looking for. It was well past noon, and I had stopped at a small cafe to eat a sandwich. Since the restaurant was packed wall-to-wall with students, I went outside and leaned against the brick wall by the door. I supposed I noticed it because it was so brightly colored, or maybe because it was the only piece of litter I had seen all morning, or just maybe, it was simply because I was supposed
Starting point is 01:33:07 to. But for whatever the reason, when a bright red flyer blew past my feet, I reached. out to step on it. Curious, I bet them to pick it up and read the heading. Teeth and History Museum, Landenburg, Pennsylvania. Upcoming exhibitions, 13 to 14th century Judeo-Christian relics and artifacts. What the fuck? They're going to get there.
Starting point is 01:33:29 They're going to get there. It's a little drawing of the demon. And it's like, oh, welcome to the demon of the. Could there be any, do you think there's any way that they have the demon there? Like a garg-like, there's just the statue that. That would be kind of cool if it was like Torbent. Well, I got to say, I love this. But they didn't know what they had.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I love the setup that, uh, that the, um, Lannenberg town is just a college town. Because I, the entire time I was sitting here thinking I was like, you have all these crazy in betweens. There's not, there's no gas station for 90 miles. It's literally nothing. And then it's just like, it's just so suspicious and odd, right? But then of course, it's just like a weird college town. where it is probably just a bunch of like kids focusing on school or just kind of like you know being young and stupid would amass and that's where they would live is out in the middle of nowhere going to the school i'm glad that that's the infrastructure to it versus if it was like yep the whole town it's a it's a plastic factory town because i feel like it would just be a little too cliche maybe oh it's the town where we make um yeah or even just something where it's like yeah there's only nine people who live here ever since this
Starting point is 01:34:42 But I like that it's kind of a thriving, bustling college town. There's like life to it and stuff, which I mean, makes sense because like the curse or the demon hasn't got there yet, right? It's like right at the border. I'm going to laugh my ass off if she just destroys another town. Then she's actually a monster. Well, she's not destroying it. It's like the demon keeps progressing territory, right?
Starting point is 01:35:07 Well, that's what I mean. But I'm saying that if some way, if she wakes this thing up again somehow and it does that again, I mean, she is indirectly again responsible for that. Directly responsible for that. Well, I mean, eventually, we don't know what this thing does. It could take over the world for all we know. Below that was a blurb about the museum.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Nothing too interesting. And below that was a description of the exhibits to be unveiled. I skimmed down the list quickly seeing little of interest until the very bottom. Statue of the demon Metoraxus. Now, God. Yeah, well, there it is. There he is. Oh, I wonder who that could be. That's a legitimate, like, bruh, moment.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I'm looking right now on one of my pages that's like all the demon names and stuff like that. And I don't see Metarexus. I don't think that is a real demon. There's not like a real history, too. It's not like Bielzab or, you know, Bealem or something like that. my mouth fell open it was too much of a coincidence nothing to be ignored i checked the date on the flyer may 2nd 2014 three weeks ago i threw the rest of my sandwich in the trash and took off i'd seen the museum that morning and i knew where exactly where to find okay that's a typo i thought
Starting point is 01:36:29 i was having a stroke uh i'll also say you could bring your sandwich with you i feel like i feel like that's okay there's no time to eat in process that would be one of the things that you have to throw it away because if she was running and still chowing down on like a meatball sub it would be so uncanny. Like it's just like throw the fucking sandwich away. You got business to do. In my head, she has like a tiny little cold cut sub
Starting point is 01:36:50 but it's funnier to imagine her like standing outside with one of those three foot long like Italian She has an extremely large sandwich in her hand. Like way too heavy of a meal. She's like it's 11. It's 11 a.m. I'm going to have my my pastrami sandwich. And it's like God, really?
Starting point is 01:37:08 that heavy of meat cheese dripping off of it as she's standing there. Why is it that whenever people have pastrami sandwiches too, that you have to put so much pastrami on the sandwich. Have you noticed that? Yeah, it's never a normal amount. Yeah, it's always like three layers of pastrami.
Starting point is 01:37:23 A palpable amount of pastrami. Well, to be fair, I feel like if you had just a normal amount of pastrami, it would just kind of taste like any other, like, might as well be a pepper. I think they're trying to thin out the herd. They're like, whoever orders a fucking pastrami sandwich, we're trying to send them to a heart attack early. As much as you can't eat it all.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I think I will. Can I have extra, can I have more mustard on this, please? Big fastrami organizing all the sandwich change. Yeah, big pastrami coming out being like, kill them all.
Starting point is 01:37:52 We're going to have a really hot about 60 years and then no more after that. Better than going to a sub shop. I would rather hear someone say, hey, can I get a pastrami melt or whatever, right? Versus nothing enrages me more than when I go to a sub-shop. shop and so it's like can I have a BLT like what kind of fucking sandwich is that to order at an actual place? That's like
Starting point is 01:38:12 an at home sandwich you make. A BLT is like a camping sandwich. You've got you have limited supplies. You're working on what meat you can't. In my fridge I have like nothing a BLT you know a BLT is a gas station sandwich that's what I used to get over like. Absolutely so then to go to an establishment that is full chockful of supplies
Starting point is 01:38:32 to make you any sandwich you want and to spit in God's face and just be like could I have a BLT spit in God's face Is it now? I mean like Come I mean What the fuck is going on? You have options for
Starting point is 01:38:44 Meatball subs Turkey clubs All kinds of stuff And then you're saying A BL fucking tea Can I have two strips of bacon A shit ton of lettuce And some tomatoes please
Starting point is 01:38:54 Oh my God thank you And you might disagree on a lot And get into a lot of little tiffs On this show but on this one I'm with you in solidarity We found common ground We found common ground you know what it's ridiculous to get a BLT at any at any place that has more than a BLT
Starting point is 01:39:12 at any time past 8 a.m. Yeah agreed totally socially acceptable at your house at any time but also just like heating up ramen packets is acceptable at your house at any time it's it's safe no one can see you there well it's like yeah it's any other option it's like is was there literally nothing else available. Yeah, for you. And I just don't believe it. It's like, all right, this is sad. Like, you're not, you're not that poor.
Starting point is 01:39:41 I agree. Yeah. It was only three blocks away, and I got there in under five minutes. Flew up the building steps and stumbled straight to the cashier window. Student ID, please. The old man said, flatly. I'm, I'm not a student. Well, you look.
Starting point is 01:39:54 How much? $11. I was gladly willing to pay. I didn't stop to grab a map. Instead, joining a tour group already in progress. The museum, I could tell, was a veritable. labyrinth and I certainly didn't want to get lost. Not in here, not with that thing. If indeed it really was what I have hoped, half-treaded it could be. It took the longest
Starting point is 01:40:18 20 minutes of my life, but we finally came to the room I'd been waiting for. Now behind this doors our newest exhibition on ancient Judeo-Christian artifacts. Please do not try to touch anything or you'll be escorted out. These pieces are centuries old and may be damaged by the lightest touch. If you have behind the door, what I suspect you do, then I highly doubt it. Also, please no flash photography.
Starting point is 01:40:42 My heart beat a million miles a minute as the decent, as what is that word? Docent. Dosen. Oh, the fuck is docent. This probably, that's probably, we're holding up the story once again.
Starting point is 01:40:53 That is probably the term for someone who's like a museum curator. Dude, come on. Just fucking say the, like, dumb it down. Curator. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:03 My heart beat him a million miles of minute as the fucking, as the guide, tour guide, open the door. I mean, like, what the, what does that? It adds, docent, fuck you. I don't like that, Isaiah. I don't like that. They're big league in me. I don't like that at all. It's okay, buddy. We'll get through. I'm going to slip in docent. Do we, do we fucking need docent? What's wrong with tour guide? I'm like, what the fuck am I? Like, what is wrong with just saying tour guide? And you might have found common ground over the VLT thing, but you watch your mouth about Rebecca. All right. She's done a lot. lot for us. I'd love Rebecca and her work. I'm just saying, cool it with the docent.
Starting point is 01:41:40 This is what I say. I say, delete that. That's what I say delete that. I lingered toward the back, letting everyone go in front of me. I'd come thousands of miles and done months of research to find that statue to prove I wasn't insane. And when the time came to possibly face my nightmare, I was hesitant. Finally, I was the last and the guide had to wave me in with a polite but impatient hand. there were about 100 things in that room all sorts of things really sculptures paintings pottery even other statues but i only had eyes for the thing in the middle it was larger than i remembered not the 12 feet i had guessed it was actually closer to 20 but every detail of its face and body
Starting point is 01:42:26 was exactly as i'd remembered though it was positioned differently now this reminds me of like a trojan horse, right? Like, it appears. A museum takes it in. And to me, that marks that this town is next on its list, right? Like, the next place it's going to destroy. Um, so it's, it's like, it's posed there. But, well, I mean, what can she do against it, right? Like, even if she knows it's real, even she knows it's going to be a problem. 12, the difference between 12 feet and 20 feet is insane, by the way. I think he was also, she was a, well, yeah, she was a child. I'm just saying like the realization of it now, of seeing it through adult eyes makes it so much more menacing, as if it already weren't before. Yeah, 20 feet's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:43:10 That is terrifying. In the church, all those years ago, it had seemed as if it was standing, waiting yet content. But now it was positions as if it was ready to leap off the stone square that it stood upon. His tail was paused in midair, instead of wrapped idly around its legs as it had been before. Though it was smaller than I'd remembered, I could at least see its face this time. It wasn't particularly scary, just an empty, stony face, far from the hungry, animated one it became when it woke. Like the crucifixion statue in the damn church, it had eyes only for me. The rest of my group took photos, ooing and awing as they made their way around the room.
Starting point is 01:43:54 I stood directly where I was against the now closed door, going no further. The guide walked around the room, discussing a notable piece of the room. of the collection, and I only moved from the door when she finally stood before the creature. And finally, the jewel of the exhibition. Oh my God. Why the fuck can I not say? Exhibition. It's okay about it.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Exhibition. Exhibition. My God. And finally, the jewel of this exposition. My God, whatever. A granite statue from the 14th century. This is a representation of is it metaraxis. This is a representation of
Starting point is 01:44:29 metaraxis. A lesser known demon of Christian mythology. It is unique in its size as well as its crisp detail, especially from something so old. Our conservationists are unable to discover its place of origin or creator. It's a place of origin or creator, but they know it's 14th century. Well, I guess that tracks because you could tell time periods of statues and also what it's a depiction of based on other depictions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:54 I edge closer and closer to the red velvet rope. Its eyes followed my every step. The room seemed to grow hotter. The guide moved to the side so people could get pictures in front of the statue. Though I couldn't blame them, I barely kept from yelling. This was madness. The stone platform on which the demon stood was covered in red velvet, which pulled at the creature's feet. It hid the words inscribed on the front of the granite stand that Jamie and I couldn't read those many years ago.
Starting point is 01:45:23 The guide droned on about nothing and I read the description of the plaque. Fourteenth century representation of the demon metaraxis, artist unknown. No shit. And then I saw what I didn't know I'd been looking for. The triangles. The symbols I would never forget etched into the doors of the damn church. And once I found one,
Starting point is 01:45:45 I found another. And another. There were half a dozen of them. So that's how they're doing it. They, whoever they were, had placed wards all around the base of the creature's stand. The museum not only knew what this thing was, They knew about the museum not only knew what this thing was.
Starting point is 01:46:06 They knew about the sigils of the doors of the damn church and were using them to trap the statue here. The revelation was like a punch to the face. Someone was aware of what the statue really was and was blatantly risking innocent lives anyway. It was insane. I thought it was a Trojan horse thing at first. I thought the statue was like in control this whole time.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Right. But if the people who have the statue here know what it is, and are successfully keeping it trapped with new sigils and wards. Why don't you just shut up and let them keep doing that? I think I'm wondering, is there any way that this thing could be a group of people that like, I mean, that you're keeping it locked,
Starting point is 01:46:50 quote unquote, so far, but could it also be people who are also unlocking it? Like the church that we saw earlier, was it really a church for Christ or was it like a temple for the demon? And it was just like a front? before. Now this is maybe a new front?
Starting point is 01:47:05 I feel like whoever put that demon down there wanted it to stay down there. You mean, it's probably true. That's not to say the pastor wasn't worshipping the demon or allowed the demon to enter the world or something like that. But whoever trapped the demon down there, I think
Starting point is 01:47:22 actually did want it to stay down there. Well, at least I'm glad that we at least have some kind of understanding of the sigils or like wards that are apparently locking this thing in place. Yeah. In a panic, I turned to find the guide and saw her conversing
Starting point is 01:47:40 politely with an elderly couple. Excuse me. I interrupted loudly. Yes. She failed to mask her irritation at my rudeness. Um, where did the museum acquire the statue? This piece is on loan from a private collection. Whose?
Starting point is 01:47:56 It belongs to James and Scott. The guide, filling the exchange with over, turn back to finish her conversation. James and Scott. I knew that name, but from where? No, there's no way it's Jamie. Ain't no way.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Wait. I thought she lost her memory of Jamie, right? Well, she just said that she just said that that was the last time she spoke to him. She still referred to him at the beginning of the story.
Starting point is 01:48:28 It could be Jamie. That's what I'm saying. but Jameson Scott is so close to Jamie. It just would feel it's, I don't know. I'm just curious. Oh, he would, dude, keep reading. Look at this. As our group began to move out of the room,
Starting point is 01:48:42 I took one last look at the creature, Metarexus, and shuddered. Its eyes had never strayed for me. I took, I took my phone out and pulled up a Wikipedia page of Jameson Scott. I had to know who could be this stupid. He was young. Okay, it's Jamie.
Starting point is 01:48:59 He was, yeah yeah as Jamie he was young my age but wealthy at his own company and well known in the tech industry for multiple inventions the words brilliant pioneer and industry leader were scattered throughout his Wikipedia page which had no picture at the end of the article under personal life was a short paragraph about his interest in symbolism and ancient artifacts this would make sense too because Jamie was obsessed when he found the he was taking pictures of everything
Starting point is 01:49:31 she basically had to beg him to leave yeah I well I mean heck wouldn't you be imagine like you you meet a demon like an actual I would very much be in her shoes where I'd be like come on please can we get out of you that'd be me I wouldn't go home come on
Starting point is 01:49:50 I shook me and I'm there being very brave and stoic and taking pictures of artifacts being like we can trap the creature and you're like crying and peeing your pants next to me is that accurate yes that's true okay that is true i shook my head as my group was herded into the museum's gift shop what did he want with the statue how had he acquired it and how did he know about the wards none of it made sense i wandered through the gift shop by idly picking up trinkets and wondering just what to do should i warn the guide the curator Or did the Scott person know what he was doing?
Starting point is 01:50:28 Were the wards enough? Somehow, I didn't think so. If this thing is now trapped, we're gonna find out it's Jamie and everything and it's gonna, like, she'll be incorporated into the story. But if she didn't know it was Jamie, just leave. Like, good, good for you. They've got it locked up.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Great. Yeah. Well, I wonder how much of it becomes the thing of like, yeah, it's there and it's sealed, but you want it to be destroyed. So it could never, there's never the possibility. Like, I wonder if that's going to be her obsession. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Yeah, I mean, depending on how much they follow, like, real, quote-unquote, demonology. You can't kill a demon, humans candidly. She can only exercise it or banish it back to hell. Yeah, only God and angels can kill demons. Mm, I see. Are you going to lecture tonight? Someone asked for behind me. I swung around.
Starting point is 01:51:22 My backpack nearly taking out a postcard stand as I did. Oh, sorry. I thought you were someone else. The red-headed girl turned to leave. What lecture? The lecture our guide was talking about. Jameson Scott's lecture on the exhibit. He's in town?
Starting point is 01:51:35 Yeah, that's what she said. You should go. He's really hot. She turned to leave. Wait. Where's the lecture again? The auditorium in the history building. Building E?
Starting point is 01:51:48 She said as if I should have known. And I guess she wasn't wrong. I was only a few years older than her, and I looked like a car. college student. Apparently everyone thought so. Thanks. I yelled after her as she walked off with her gickling friend. Okay, so a couple of theories. Um, for one, there is some supernatural element at work that is pointing her down this direction. I, uh, I agree, but also at the same time, I'm kind of liking the 50 shades of gray angle. They're taking this now.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I don't think that's the angle they're taking with this. You have girl coming into town with high, high, high tech, uh, billionaire guy that all the girls are gushing over, right? Oh, and he's hot. How do we know that this isn't going to take a little turn to erotica? If this really cool statue demon story becomes like, like smut, I'm, I'm leaving. We're ending the episode. I can't tell you. I would be so thrilled.
Starting point is 01:52:58 It would be so good. I know, you know what? As soon as that happens, you can read it. I'll just sit here. How's that sound? Okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Deal. I would definitely be there. I had a few things to say to this guy. I wasn't leaving Pennsylvania until I did. I said in the back of the auditorium, as was my custom. The room was filled wall to wall with people, faculty and students alike. An empty podium set in the front and a tall, blonde-haired security guard stood to its left. He had a gun on his hip and his hands were folded behind his back.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Maybe he wasn't a security guard after all. I was pretty sure state campuses were gun-free, which meant he was with somebody important. James and Scott, no doubt. The guard stared straight ahead, his eyes boring a hole into the wall behind me. Lots of things about him made me uneasy. The murmurs and whispers died down a moment later when a thin, attractive man walked purposefully onto the stage. Good evening. He began.
Starting point is 01:53:56 He graced the room with a smile that couldn't fool me. The emotion didn't quite reach his eyes. If anything, he looked like the most stressed out entire 25-year-old I'd ever seen. My name is Jameson Scott. I'm here to speak to tonight about a few ancient and interesting items I've collected over the years. I'm sorry, but I will not be answering questions about my company, our newest patents, or my personal charities. Easy, Christian Gray.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Ah! What? You looked ahead. Yes. I did not. I swear, I swear. You had to. My screen record of this, you can look. I did not look ahead. I fucking knew it.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I love it. Uh-oh. There's no way. We're going to get some deep fucking see. A 50 shades of gray hell, Mary. And then the story said Christian gray. There was, do you remember what was the one time?
Starting point is 01:54:49 There was one time we were reading an episode and something like that happened. I can't remember. it was like angel and mother do you remember that i can't dude you're asking the wrong dude i barely yeah you forgot you forgot what story this was um no there was some story we read where it was like um oh my mom said something about an angel or an angel on my mom and then we read like that exact sentence yeah paragraph later or something like that we've had a couple good calls on this we we have our moments we we dabble yeah i i saw that i saw that deep fucking from the billionaire a mile away. There were a few
Starting point is 01:55:23 disappointed. I also like in horror media especially it throws me off a little bit whenever it references other media because that implies that okay in this universe approximately 20 years ago
Starting point is 01:55:39 a series of towns in northern Pennsylvania were wiped out by a demonic entity that's now chained within one of those towns and somehow this created a series of events that also led to the exact same production of 50 Shades of Graves. We know it today. Yeah, but it was a book, a popular book before that.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Was it? Like back? Yeah. Oh, yeah. 50 Shades of Gray came out a long time ago. 50. Well, no, it was a, no, 50 Shades of Great was Twilight fan fiction originally. So it had to be after that. It was, bu, blah, blah, blah. Because in my head, like, all of this went down. in, like, 2005, the town disappeared and stuff like that, right? Published. It was self-published 2011. Yeah. I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't mind it in this case.
Starting point is 01:56:36 I'm just net picking. I'm just being, I'm being new for this episode. I was optimistic until the Christian Gray reference and now I'm over it. I'm even more optimistic now. I can tell. My future's looking up. There were a few disappointed groans from the audience, but James and Scott, smiled and directly a oh and directed a flirtatious wink at no one in particular he was an alarmingly charming man i have i have been interested in ancient relics particularly those of religious
Starting point is 01:57:04 significance for many years since i was quite young actually somewhat traumatic experience played the catalyst and i've been uh studying and collecting ever since i'll begin with some of the more well-known pieces, and then move on to one more exotic. She needs to put together quickly that this is Jamie, or it's going to drag me down a bit. If she just keeps me like, where do I know that name? What is going on with this? Scott began his lecture on a bowl from Mesopotamia that was supposed to bestow on the user unnaturally long life.
Starting point is 01:57:40 As long as you drank from it, only water siphon from the bottom of the Euphrates River. He spoke extensively about several other equally unnaturally. interesting artifacts before finally coming to the one I cared about. The statue. Please tell you this photo for a minute. Scott clicked to the next slide in the slideshow and the demon statue appeared against a blood red background, as imposing and terrifying as it was in real life. A blanket of heavy, uncomfortable air descended on the room as people averted their eyes from the screen and mumbled uncertainly. I did take my eyes off of it. This is the piece I spent most of my life trying to locate.
Starting point is 01:58:22 May I introduce you to the demon Metoraxus. You pause for a minute and click to the next slide. Adonte S. depiction of hell. Metaraxis belongs to the second hierarchy of demons, though he is virtually unknown. And this is simply because of his nature. Metaraxus doesn't kill or possess. He doesn't vie for power.
Starting point is 01:58:46 bring darkness into the hearts of men or try to influence innocence Metaraxis eats but he eats more than the flesh of man eats their homes their histories and their souls if you were to be eaten by Metaraxis it would be as if you never
Starting point is 01:59:01 existed at all no one would remember you and the now empty piece of life you have carved out of yourself and the world would fill in as if you were never as if you were never there everything that was you or
Starting point is 01:59:15 Whatever would be you is gone. Kind of kind of a horrifying concept of like not only does it eat your soul and stuff, but your entire, like you literally never existed. James and Scott paused artfully to let his words wash over the audience, every soul in the room hanging on every syllable. I suppose it really was quite interesting, if you didn't know the heartbreaking truth of it, which I knew he did. Someone held as a genius seemed utterly reckless of him to romanticize all this. I crossed my arms and slumped lower in my chair When this was over one way or another James and Scott and I would be having a conversation
Starting point is 01:59:51 And this is why Metraxus is an unknown There is no one to speak his name or his deeds Alive or dead Or there wasn't for many centuries At some point in history Metraxus grew tired of being unknown and unworshipped He proclaimed that those who prayed to him And brought him sacrifice would not only be spared
Starting point is 02:00:11 and would not only be spared and but also given gifts of everlasting youth and resilience no that's probably Jameson that which he had stolen from his others or had stolen from others it is believed that several ancient civilizations took him up on his offer
Starting point is 02:00:30 they sang his songs built his temples and created a beautiful artwork in his likeness such as the one in your museum to praise the demon and reap his gifts okay okay okay okay okay okay okay this is this is really cool because now jameson's the villain of the story effectively right yeah jamie it seems as if he was obsessed with it started worshipping it and now is this like high-tech billionaire dude yeah because it says that the demon would give the worshippers gifts that it ate from other people so all of those ideas jamie has of like um all the tech
Starting point is 02:01:09 conventions he has, all the charities, all the money, or stuff that was eaten up from other people and then gifted to him. And this would have gone on for many years until a name was called that refused to be sacrificed. Metaraxis chose his tribute selectively, but eventually a name would come up of someone rich or in power
Starting point is 02:01:25 that person would maneuver out of it or simply commit suicide. In these instances, Metraxus would grow angry and eat the city and all the people therein, leaving no trace that he or they had ever existed. This would have happened many times over the centuries.
Starting point is 02:01:43 So we were also right there about how it's been kind of going on for. It's been going on for a long time. But it says that someone would refuse to be sacrificed. And this would cause him to become furious. Maybe that was them escaping out of the basement. Whenever they awoke him, I imagine that was supposed to be their sacrificial moment. And then they ran.
Starting point is 02:02:04 And that's basically pissed him off. Probably. now this was interesting the creature could be tamed like a pet and that is not at all what he said what
Starting point is 02:02:17 she's like she hears all this and she's like now this is interesting this creature's I think she just means it like yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:02:27 yeah could be tamed like a pet as long as you gave it the treat it wanted you would be not only saved but rewarded that's assuming that you're in control
Starting point is 02:02:38 of the negotiation which I feel like is a misstep since it's science was too busy asking if they could they never stopped to ask if they should something else to consider is that no one ever knew how often Metraxus called a name. Does the person
Starting point is 02:02:55 would be absorbed by the demon? No one ever remember if they had existed at all. It could have been one person a year or five a day and no one would know the demon himself. You will find mentions of Metraxis scattered in religious text dating back as far as 1700 bc the statue is rare and that is the only one
Starting point is 02:03:15 likeness of him to ever be found this is kind of interesting too because even if you google him it's supposed to be like well matter access is like no one's ever been able to remember writing him down yeah we can't find him right so that's a that's a fun caveat that's a that's a fun way to because most stories would just incorporate a name demon right but saying that it is a demon who's history is unknowable and then you know making up your own to fit in there and then like closely tying it to other demonic beliefs uh that's fun that's pretty cool jameson grace the many hands in the air with another tired smile and said i'm sorry but no questions tonight you haven't yet had a chance to see the statue of metaraxis i encourage you to experience it before it shipped to new york next
Starting point is 02:04:01 month new york city just disappears yeah no shit man someone should really put a massive city here on the coast. Then, without any ceremony at all, James and Scott simply walked off stage and the lecture was over. A security guard, who I realized was more likely a bodyguard, stepped forward to block several girls
Starting point is 02:04:24 who jumped the stage to follow his boss. Jesus. He's him busy. I knew I had a chance. It's like he's Justin Bieber. For real. As the throng of people pressed forward to the upper exits,
Starting point is 02:04:35 I fell back and went out the rear. I sprinted out of the building and around to the corner hoping to see what I'd gambled was there. And it was. Jamison Scott was climbing in the back of a white SUV when I spotted him. He glanced to my direction at the sound of his name, but then shut the door and rolled down the window of the SUV. As the SUV began to pull away,
Starting point is 02:04:53 I threw a hell Mary. You words on that demon will never hold! My voice echoed down the alleyway. The brake lights came on immediately, but no one exited the car. Taking it as an invitation, I ran up to his window. for mere 25 years old he sure looked like he'd seen some shit
Starting point is 02:05:11 his lined pale yet attractive face no longer carried a tired look but a surprised one I've been over to catch my breath he didn't speak but opened the door and scooted over I climbed in who may have the pleasure
Starting point is 02:05:28 Caitlin Ross I held out a shaky hand his surprise seemed to turn to shock Caitlin Ross He said slowly With a strange inflection of reverence Yes I'm Caitlin Ross
Starting point is 02:05:44 In your words They're bullshit He didn't even bother to ask how I'd known Which in turn bothered me Simply tap the seat in front of him And his driver let go of the break Those wards have held for six years Miss Ross
Starting point is 02:06:00 I assure you They'll hold you have no idea what you're dealing with here oh I assure you I do there was a hard yet sad edge to his voice that suggested personal tragedy I wondered if I misjudged him after all oh my gosh
Starting point is 02:06:17 dear fucking God Caitlin put the fucking pieces together figure it out good Lord my apartment here's here we go here's the 50s my apartments are only a block away perhaps we should speak more in my study this isn't a conversation for and he went over here. She's gonna be tied up
Starting point is 02:06:37 and flipped upside down. Maybe some bondage and ass play while we're added. Maybe. Do you know what these are? These are anal beads. I want you to count how many X in me as we have this conversation.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Have you ever heard of sounding, Mrs. Ross? I noted the finality in his voice and nodding, set back in my seat. As long as I got to say what I'd come to say, I didn't care where we went. We were let off at the corner where several men, and his personal detail, were already waiting. Scott escorted me into a private entrance and private elevator with only one button marked penthouse. As soon as the elevator doors opened, one of his men ushered me into his cavernous study, and the door was shut behind me. For whatever reason, Jameson entered from a different door a few minutes later, followed by his head bodyguard who had been at the lecture.
Starting point is 02:07:30 this one didn't like me one bet barely concealing irritation and shades of panic when he saw me he was older clearly over 30 stark blonde hair and a square jaw this is a funny amount of security to have in like a small town in northern Pennsylvania yeah
Starting point is 02:07:47 but I'm rich and I'm a bachelor he has like a multi-floor penthouse and everything else is like a one story like cottage yeah he's like could you believe it 800 square feet it's all mine I'll never take this for me Jamison sat down behind his desk
Starting point is 02:08:05 while I continued to stand he gestured to an empty seat in front of him he gave a suit yourself shrug turned to his bodyguard his eyes continued to bore angry holes through me as they did everything else he looked at this was quickly becoming enemy territory
Starting point is 02:08:19 scotch from me Bannick anything for you Caitlin no thanks I mumbled as the guard Bannick, raked his hair back from his forehead in exasperation. I assumed it's got a familiar use of my first name.
Starting point is 02:08:36 No threat to your boss, buddy. If anything, he is a threat to everyone else. I returned his icy glare, never wavering until his lips grew into a thin line, and he curtly nodded to Jameson and left the room. First, I want to establish. Do you have any idea what you're doing? I asked, suspending all platitudes.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Jameson leaned back cautiously in his chair, giving me a casual go-on gesture. Why would you bring that thing to a populated city? What would you put it on display for all to see and touch? What sort of arrogance allows you to think that you could control it with a few poorly copied sigils? He had made no move during my short outburst other than to tent his fingers and stroke his jaw with his thumb. Which question would you like me to answer first? I'm telling you this is getting very erotic very quickly I don't know stop
Starting point is 02:09:35 also I have there's been a lot of focus on the the guards my hell Mary that I'm going to throw is that the guards are some kind of spiritual entity angel may be a bit too campy but like some kind of supernatural thing I think.
Starting point is 02:09:58 The guards that are around him all the time. Just then, the one called Bannick opened the door with a little too much force and brought his great Lord and Master a Scotch. He turned to stand beside Jameson's desk, which seemed a natural and familiar spot for him. You may go, Eric. Jameson clipped without so much as looking at him.
Starting point is 02:10:15 The guard didn't move, and I continued to stare at him. We engaged in our own little personal silent standoff. He, like the statue, had eyes only for me. And they were filled with rage and fire. He can stay I ground out finally Let him know I'm not afraid of him
Starting point is 02:10:33 If he was grateful for my help He didn't show it As you wish Your question I slid my eyes reluctantly back to Jameson How did you get it I bought it from the government The government had it?
Starting point is 02:10:50 I asked incredulously The state of Pennsylvania It appeared on government land in the middle of nowhere. According to the surveyor who found it, they shifted off to PSU, who dated and appraised it, and they put it up for auction.
Starting point is 02:11:06 They just sold it to the highest bidder? Yeah, and why not? It's just a piece of granite to them, and they needed the money. The state of Pennsylvania is suffering its own financial crisis, though I suppose that's why... I suppose that's what happens when, in essence,
Starting point is 02:11:21 20% of the state just stops paying their taxes. It's a curious thing. I winced. He didn't need to elaborate. Why did you buy it? Because I have personal history with Metraxus. He has taken from me. He's taken from me too. But I'm not parading him around in public.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Risking people's lives. Their souls, according to you. If you listen to my lecture, you would know why I do that. Remain silent. Jameson's side and leaned forward. You're right, Caitlin. The ward's one. won't hold him not forever and we don't know what it will the only reason they're holding
Starting point is 02:12:01 now is because i'm giving him what he wants oh he's probably feeding people to him i think he means the worship oh i see yeah you're probably right you assume that being exhibited a museum satifies the creature's desire for worship and you're willing to stake people's lives on that i am that creature has not moved a millimeter since he came into my care i've employed teams of symbologist and demologists to research, test, and advise me on the safest course of action. And for our efforts, the statue has remained dormant. Yes, it's not dead. You're going to kill someone someday.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Jameson sprung up from his desk and was in front of me before I even had a chance to take a step. His bodyguard took an almost involuntary step toward him. It was too late. Jameson was only inches from me and much more intimidating at eye level. panic seemed uneasy and ready to pounce if I tried anything What would you have me do, Caitlin? Would you like me to take custody of it? What would you do with it? Tell me. And I'll consider it.
Starting point is 02:13:06 Destroy it! He gave a sad, desperate bark of laughter. Don't you think I've tried that? Don't you think the first thing I did when I acquired it was try to kill it? I tried to incinerate it. Hit it with a wrecking ball. I haven't ran it over with a tank. It wouldn't be destroyed by any tools of man. And believe me, Caitlin.
Starting point is 02:13:27 I paid deal it for my attempts. Almost everything I love is gone. Did I put it back where it came from? If the church was even still there, and if I could find it. No one can do that. Who did it kill? Who that you loved? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Also, the visual of him hitting it with the tank is very funny. Yeah, him like bulldozing. It's just a slow moving tank. Yeah. It's just like, it won't break at all, but it's just like on the ground and the pose. Like, I don't know why I cared so much, but I couldn't let it go. I had to know. Scott took a step back, but held his ground.
Starting point is 02:14:07 She was she. And just how did you escape the creature when it came for you? The question hit him physically, like a bullet. He leaned back against the desk, suddenly weaker, defeated and less imposing. Bannick visibly relaxed, his hand sliding. off the handle of the gun. I hadn't noticed was still holstered in his belt. This is a story for another
Starting point is 02:14:29 time. Oh, come on. How long are we going to do this? I know who Jamie is. Fine. Then why you? Why are you the person who's qualified to own the statue? Because I've seen its face. My fate is bound to it.
Starting point is 02:14:45 As surely is yours. Jameson Scott rubbed his face in genuine exhaustion. If he hadn't been speaking the truth, then he was a damn good actor he looked up at me finally from hooded eyes that burned with some intense unnamed emotion
Starting point is 02:15:00 and who did it take from you Jamie I had nothing to hide and I wouldn't disrespect Jamie by hiding the truth wait I want to disrespe okay oh she's saying she wouldn't disrespect her memory of Jamie
Starting point is 02:15:18 not knowing it's Jamie she's talking to right now I raised my chin a little higher and crossed my arms. Scott's expression had turned milder, almost pensive, and a sad smile graced his handsome face. Tension in the room abated, though Banach was looking at me intently. His expression unchanged since the moment he'd walked into the room. When Scott didn't reply, I decided it was now or never. I want to see it. No. Alone. No. This time both Jameson and Banach had spoken at the same time. I known he wouldn't let me go. He never let me near the same. statue again. I'd assume this before I'd even met him, which is why I swip the museum keycard
Starting point is 02:15:58 office desk as soon as I had the opportunity. Why not? Because he knows you. And you know he could break the wards if he wanted to. No. He could never get past the wards. They're perfectly drawn and blessed as they should be, but I won't risk your life. Jameson Scott suddenly seemed battle-wary, so much older than his 25 years. Don't even try. Caitlin it will take you if you do the only one who will ever remember you is me his plea was multi-layered intricately woven with threads of both deceit and familiarity once again i was put ill at ease there was only one more thing i wanted from this room who did it take from you and how tell me tell me that and i'll leave lannenberg in the in the morning and never come back
Starting point is 02:16:52 lie, but I was curious. Jameson's eyes shifted to mine, perhaps to gauge if I met what I said. He must have believed me, because his gaze drifted off the window, and he answered my question. I took her for myself.
Starting point is 02:17:09 It was an unsatisfying answer. Now leave. Commanded his bodyguard before I'd had a chance to reply. Jameson stared at me as I took a step back from the desk. His eyes were again pregnant with an emotion I couldn't name, but it tread a line between longing and insanity. Perhaps desperate desire, perhaps insane desperation.
Starting point is 02:17:32 Perhaps something in between. I will walk her out. Banning a bit as I made my escape out the door. God, anyone but him. No, I need you here. Andrews will see her out. The door closed behind me and I heard no more. Andrews turned out to be an older man with a bull.
Starting point is 02:17:52 bald head and a white beard. He met me at the elevator and escorted me all the way to the ground floor, saying Little. Do you need a ride somewhere? He asked as we stepped out into the street. No, I can walk. He said no more, just turned around and let the private door shut behind him. Nice of him to ask, at least. As I walked back to the museum, I had time to wonder just what in the hell I was doing. Why didn't I listen to Scott and just leave? Why did I hope to gain by seeing that thing again. Can I just trust that he seemed to have everything under control? Scott had the resources, the money, the people, and most importantly, the motivation. He had lost someone too, after all, someone he loved, though how that had come to pass was not clear. But I knew I had to see it
Starting point is 02:18:39 again. Perhaps I could prove to him just how dangerous that thing was, regardless of the precautions he was taking. I need to convince him to take the statue off display before more people died. It was madness having it here. He was exposing innocent people to a demon on a reckless gamble. If I could make the statue move just an inch or two, maybe even a turn of its head,
Starting point is 02:19:02 it would be on the museum security tapes and I could prove that this thing wasn't truly dormant. I read him as a pragmatic, reasonable man. He would remove the exhibit at once. I trusted that much, didn't I? She is insanely stupid.
Starting point is 02:19:19 This is the This is the most reckless thing I think I've ever heard. They're both being reckless and selfish, but it's coming to an extent that our protagonist here, Caitlin, is, it's becoming infuriating. My theory is too that the thing Jamie said where he's like, I pushed her or I lost her myself, whatever, I feel like something bad happens if Jamie recognizes Caitlin
Starting point is 02:19:45 or like recognizes someone from that time period. I think Jamie knows who she is. and isn't, he's trying to keep her safe. So they're going on with Badok too where maybe he doesn't want to reveal that in front of him as well? Like he doesn't want him to be alone with Caitlin either, so I don't know. Once again, I pulled up Jameson Scott's Wikipedia page. All I knew was that he was a pioneer in the tech industry,
Starting point is 02:20:07 rich as a Rothschild and interested in 14th century Judeo-Christian artifacts. It didn't fit. It just didn't. Unless Jameson Scott was telling the truth. But even if he was being on his past past, Scott was still lying to me about something. Like everything else in the last week, I'd have to trust my gut. I arrived at the museum and walked around the giant building looking for the gift shop. At the moment, I knew two things.
Starting point is 02:20:34 Statue's room was next to the gift shop, and museums usually had nighttime security. I slid Jameson's card through the reader next to the door, and a light flashed green while the door emitted a soft click. They should open and peered into the empty gift shop. dim overhead lights gave the room an eerie and foreboding glow the room reminded me of another room from over ten years ago a nave darkened by dirty windows and a muted setting sun I was younger then or innocent not had Jamie then
Starting point is 02:21:04 but I wouldn't give to have him with me now what would he say perhaps that he was a 25 year old billionaire who I could ask would he trust Scott would he attempt to stir the creature for the greater good or would he say I was stupid for risking my life Jameson was convinced the wards would hold would Jamie have been too
Starting point is 02:21:25 whatever happened I hope I didn't fail him that is the end of the of the return to deep wood here leading I just kind of want to hop right into the death of the deep wood to kind of see what's going on I am livid as she doesn't understand like has not piece that together
Starting point is 02:21:41 granted she does have she does have the ability she has for years now you could argue you know over a decade she has uh told herself the story that jamie's just gone that he disappeared that he's dead essentially you know so she has had like been living with that forever so she probably doesn't hasn't even thought about him actually still being alive but it does seem kind of naive to have somebody be like to have another experience with that um i don't know she is being incredibly naive yeah because like someone else has experience with it, uh, they have for six years kept it from killing anyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:20 We are on to part three. Death of Deepwood, Pennsylvania. I padded quietly through the dimly lit gift shop, pulling the straps of my backpack, tied her over my shoulder like a security blanket. When I reached the opposite door, I leaned my head against it and tried to calm my rapidly beaten heart. Taking several deep breaths, I slid Scott's key card through the blinking card reader and was rewarded with a green flash and another soft click. The creature was right where I'd left it. As still as the statue, it was pretending to be. Took my time wandering around the room.
Starting point is 02:22:54 My eyes never leaving James and Scott's surprise exhibit. If the demon was as satisfied and successfully warned it as Scott bragged it was, then the creature either wouldn't notice or wouldn't care about my presence. I'm starting to hope he was right. Yeah, but he also said it remembers you and can get up whenever it wants. Whatever, okay. I approached it slowly and unbuckled the velvet rope with the shaky hand. I was so close to it now that all I could see when I looked up
Starting point is 02:23:20 was the underside of its gigantic head. I suddenly wondered if years of schooling would help me read the words inscribed on the statue of stone platform. I bit down and started to pull up the velvet covering when I heard a quiet scrape above me, like stone on stone. Oh, God. It was the sound I'd heard before in the soundtrack of my nightmares. though I'd been right all along The statue wasn't dormant
Starting point is 02:23:47 It was a hollow victory I dropped the velvet and backed away from the statue Trying to determine what had moved Nothing had changed to my naked eye But I know what I heard Bumping against the back wall I decided to play a wild card I needed it to move
Starting point is 02:24:04 Perceptibly if I wanted proof that the thing was still dangerous I turned away from the demon to face the wall using an arm brace myself. I couldn't believe I was doing this. I pushed my chips all in. Do you really think I'm scared of you? After all these years? I asked quietly, my voice echoing around me like a gunshot.
Starting point is 02:24:27 You're just a piece of rock now. Harmless to me. I felt my breath and waited. Nothing. Feeling both disappointed and relieved, I sighed and turned around, dropping the key card as well. as my jaw.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Though it hadn't made a sound, the statue was now not only facing me, but leaning out as far off its stone platform as it could. Its mouth was opened and almost imperceptibly growing wider by the second.
Starting point is 02:25:03 That's awesome. You can't leave your platform. I would attempt him. I breathe as much to myself the creature. My whole body was shaking and I was quietly backing up, slowly, slowly to the door. I got what I come for. Now it was time to leave. It happened in the breath of a second. There was a sudden crack as the demon's tail whipped through the air behind it from one side to the other, as though it were not made of stone but a flesh of blood. The glass encasing it on either
Starting point is 02:25:36 side shattered. The makeshift wall behind split into and the velvet ropes came crashing down. One of the poles sent a sigil flying across the room. I screamed like I never screamed before as the creature's neck seemed to stretch across the room toward me. One of its wards no longer effective. I turned my back on it and ran for the door realizing too late that the key card now lay under a heap of rubble. I hate her. Yeah, this was insane. This was a horrible, horrible. She went to a demon and was like, I'm going to mock you so that you move a little bit, but not a lot. Fuck you. I bet you have a tiny dick.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Yeah, like, well, yeah, this is ridiculous. I turned my back on it and ran for the door, realized too late that the key card now lay under a heap of rubble. I reached the double doors and tried to jerk them open, hoping they weren't locked from the other side. They were. The creature was once again still as stone, everything but its eyes, which followed my every move hungrily. I beat on the door, yelling for security and wondering, if I was doomed and which thought would be my last. In my hysterical panic, I suddenly remembered how I'd escaped this fate 13 years before.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I stumbled back from the doors as much as I dared and ran at them shoulder first. So the demon also here probably remembers her as the person that was supposed to be sacrificed, but didn't, but ran away and got away. Yeah, remember what I said. It's like it wants you, like it picks a target, basically. Yeah. So that was the target before. He's probably definitely remembers her. Yeah. They moved Creek Demon. but ultimately laughed at my efforts. These were no rotten, decaying church doors.
Starting point is 02:27:12 Crazed with fear, I backed up to try again, and this time just as my shoulder reached the door, it opened from the other side, and I went spilling over on top of something hard or someone. He rolled over, and I passively registered that I'd landed on an enraged banick. He was standing and pulling me up by strap in my backpack before the door had even closed behind us. Bannick struggled to say something, trying several times,
Starting point is 02:27:35 was too angry for words. I didn't care. I threw my arms around him, just happy to be on the other side of the door. He didn't hug me back, just froze stiff and waited for me to get off of him. When I finally pulled back, I pulled my hood down and looked him full in the face.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Did you see what it did? I asked pushing hair back from my face. That thing is not dormant at all. Tell your boss that. And that needs to be moved tonight, if possible. I hate her. She has no business to say any of this. fathomable.
Starting point is 02:28:05 This is such a deeply stupid person. In lieu of a response, Bannett grabbed my arm and headed toward the lobby. Since it was away from the exhibit room, I didn't care. He could take me to jail if he wanted, as long as James and Scott heard what happened here. I made my point to him and live to tell the tale. Or had I?
Starting point is 02:28:25 I suddenly wondered. Honestly, if I'd learned anything in that room, it had been that the creature hadn't forgotten me, the girl that got away. My life was a black mark on its record, an insult. And I had gone into its slayer and challenged. What did I think was going to happen? Yeah, what a great time to think about that.
Starting point is 02:28:45 God. Of one thing I was abruptly certain, it wouldn't stop until it had my life. The creature would burn through a hundred cities, perhaps a thousand, to claim me. And it had told me all of this somehow. Had it? I suddenly realized my mistake. the creature had been dormant
Starting point is 02:29:07 when I'd arrived in Landenberg as it had been dormant 13 years before in Deepwood and once again I had awoken it from its harmless
Starting point is 02:29:13 slubber I hate her I hate her I hate her so much Isaiah I can't do it This is the second time she has walked into a place
Starting point is 02:29:20 with the demons surrounded by sigils and done something to make it upset and like draw it out how many it would pay the price this time
Starting point is 02:29:27 how many people had to die before the end you have killed 20% of the population of Pennsylvania I want to say that is on, like, yes, the demon did it, but it is indirectly her fault. Like, at least Jamie has spent the rest of his life trying to stop it with, like, actual methods other than just like,
Starting point is 02:29:46 nah, yeah, boo, boo, you can't do me. Like, she's certainly not one of the worst characters we've read. Or she's definitely not the worst character we've read, but she is getting up there to me of like, you're just having someone just be like, well, should I press this? this button that you know sets off a nuclear bomb well i don't know seems like dirt seems like they it's gonna go off eventually so i might as well do it myself right finally understanding the true cost of my arrogance i let out a muffled cry and faltered wondering with revulsion if perhaps i should just go back and face my fate yes you should sacrifice yourself to the great
Starting point is 02:30:24 demon redeem yourself wait i cough trying to apply the guard's fingers from my arm Bannick suddenly spun me around and pinned me against a wall his arms braced on the other side of my head my eyes snapped up at him in shock and I recalled from what I saw there What the fuck are you doing here? I was just... Why'd you come back, Katie? After all these fucking years!
Starting point is 02:30:48 Well, I was wrong. My objection died in my throat, but couldn't be. It wasn't possible, and yet somehow it was. My legs gave out under me, but Jamie caught me on the wall. way down. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay. All right. Well, you know what? We, me and you, we were a little bit off. A little bit. I mean, he was there. We were just a little bit off. He was older than he should have
Starting point is 02:31:20 been and stronger than I ever thought the skinny kid from Middle Sparill could be. But his eyes hadn't changed. It was Jamie all the same. Even his expressions were familiar to me. I realized. What I first thought was seething anger was actually just barely controlled fear Had the creature killed me after all Was I swirling in the dark abyss with Jamie And all the others who had been taken Jamie
Starting point is 02:31:43 My voice broke over his name Christ Katie You need to leave now and never come back Hell leave the country if he can He'll never stop looking for you now I couldn't register what he was saying Who wouldn't Leave what country
Starting point is 02:32:00 Jamie, how was Jamie here? He kept me pinned there, his hold frigid, his eyes desperate, and a little bit pissed off. Jamie, how did you... How'd I know you'd come here? When has the word no ever kept you from something you wanted? No, I mean, how... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:32:24 We'll take her from here, Bannick. The voice behind him interrupted me. Jamie slowly turned to face the three men, only one of which I recognized. This one has been too much trouble. I want her gone. Jamie returned Tyson his voice. Mr. Scott says we're not to take orders from you anymore, Bannick. Give her here.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Jamie suddenly pushed me out of the way and I went sliding across the floor. The wind knocked out of me. A rushing filled my ears as I tried desperately to catch my breath. When my hearing came back, Jamie was. yelling at me. Go! I looked back to see two men down and Jamie struggling with the third. My sneakers struggled for purchase on the slick marble floor and when they finally found it, I was up and running toward the lobby on the wings of adrenaline. Suddenly heard a sound like a book slamming onto a table. I spun around just as Jamie went down, clutching his shoulder.
Starting point is 02:33:20 Fell on top of the man he'd been struggling with, who was now unconscious. Blood began to drip over his fingers and I went sliding across the floor as I tried to double back for him. What, why are you? Jamie started to say something, but passed out mid-sentence. His hand dropped from his shoulder and thin tendrils of blood
Starting point is 02:33:36 began to race each other down his chest. Well, now that is impressive. Jameson Scott stepped forward from where he'd been leaning again. Cringe. I know, yeah. That 100% struck me as like an anime thing.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Pushes up glasses. Yeah, exactly. Now, that is. impressive yeah and i'm not impressed by much at it in my age i stumbled over to jamie but scott stopped me with a single click of his gun he walked over and rested a foot on jamie's chest i froze where i was okay so scott shot jamie right yeah i'm gonna assume so i saw you take my key card you know played the role perfectly in fact everything went according to plan except him Scott kicked Jamie in the ribs
Starting point is 02:34:26 but he didn't make a sound What do you want Your name came up I want you to die Why Scott gave a pretentious scoff This isn't a James Bond movie Miss Ross
Starting point is 02:34:42 I don't need to explain myself to you I'm looking down two paragraphs And he is explaining himself In very thorough detail But you will won't you you want me to know how clever you are What? I don't know
Starting point is 02:34:57 What happened? What? Where did this come from? I think that she, I think she's just trying to buy time. Yeah, okay. I was playing with fire, but why not? We were far beyond caution now. Hmm. You're quite bright.
Starting point is 02:35:14 There might have been a place for you or my staff if things had been different. Don't flatter yourself. Why then? Why are you giving a demon? in what it wants. Didn't kill someone you loved? My daughter, actually.
Starting point is 02:35:28 And why? It's my gift to a world I was born too late into. You know, I was 50 by the time the internet was invented. Fifty! What's sad irony then? That I was a technological genius. Oh, what the universe does love it's sick jokes. Do you realize I've single-handedly guided the history of modern technology?
Starting point is 02:35:49 Oh, God, here we go. I'm falling deeper. This is getting cringe. It's true. I reached my 70s and then my 80s and my vision began to fail. My hands would shake. I'd forget coding. I could barely manage to read at one point.
Starting point is 02:36:06 I made millions. But I hadn't even started. I decided the world couldn't afford to lose me yet. So I tracked down every piece of ancient lore I could that helped me reclaim my youth. Most of it was rubbish, of course. But I was desperate. I'd almost given up
Starting point is 02:36:22 until Mataraxis found me. I The story did dupe us pretty good because it is so clearly supposed to be that Jameson is Jamie, right? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I like the trick when the guy's name is Jameson. Like, it's just, to me, I'm like, okay, that's the guy.
Starting point is 02:36:44 The name should have been different. And then it's like, and then you're referring to the other guy. It's almost where it's like, it's like, my old friend's name used to be Sally and this is I don't know, this is a new girl, Sally Field and there's another girl in the room. Her name's Zbock.
Starting point is 02:36:59 It's like, okay, well, I'm not really in under, I'm not really an indie under, like I'm not like supposed to be like, oh, Baddick is probably, you know what I mean? It feels kind of cheap in a non-visual format, maybe. I think just make both of their names nothing like Jamie. Well, yeah, exactly. And you're fine.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Other than that, I do like how the story completely set up that Jameson was an altruistic character who had suffered at the hands of this demon and was trying to do something to satiate it only for the rug to be pulled on us in part three I mean I agree I don't I don't agree that the name throws it off but I think but I think it's just it's a bit to me I felt I thought I was more like well that's just cheap like it feels unfair whatever I think that you could still have done it if his name was not Jameson
Starting point is 02:37:47 yeah yeah no I mean I like the setup of but being like, oh, maybe he is doing something good because he really pushes and pulls you. I want to finish the story before I guess divulge too much. I knew what he was as soon as I saw him. So I bought him and warded him using the sigils I'd read about in ancient text. Of course, there was an expensive trial and error period.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Many of my staff were killed in the process. But eventually, we discovered the right sigils. The first thing I did was tracked down the man whose name was etched into the granite into Manorax's feet. I presented him for a sacrifice. and I was rewarded. That was six years ago. I adopted a new name and started a new company.
Starting point is 02:38:27 All was going well until your name came up about four years ago. You really stumped me because Metaraxis only desires those who are connected to him. Somehow. I didn't know who you were and you're far from only Caitlin Ross in the world. I did try several others. Metaraxes would take them for certain, but the name never changed. I was getting desperate. So you can imagine how happy I am that you showed up at my doorstep.
Starting point is 02:38:53 God is telling me that he approves my methods, and that I must stay alive for the good of humanity. My company is in the middle of revolutionizing surgical robotics. But Christ's sakes, I will take a few lives to save a million. Furious at his arrogance, I struggle to keep my voice level. Don't lie to yourself, Scott. You're no hero. Just an old man afraid to die.
Starting point is 02:39:15 No, Caitlin. I'm just a man refusing to grow old. What can I say? I'm determined and resilient. I want to be young until the day I die. That's not resilience. That's vanity. Vanity is what you're buying with my life.
Starting point is 02:39:30 There's always a price for social change, Miss Ross. And today, the cost is you. Oh. But you look upset. Don't be afraid of death, my dear. Not for such a worthy cause. I'm not afraid of death, and I don't care about your diabolical plan. I just want you to get to the goddamn part!
Starting point is 02:39:48 Jamie's breathing was growing shallow and my voice dripped with animosity. As you wish. When I woke, I was lying on a cold marble floor. My brown mass of hair fanned out underneath me, stiff with dried blood and my wrist bound. I set up slowly and tried to brush the hair out of my eyes. I knew where I was. There's no point in turning around to see it. But I did anyway.
Starting point is 02:40:14 It wasn't the fact that my name was engraved at the base of the statue that the velvet cloths had covered. It wasn't the wards, which had been moved from the demon's feet to the doors and walls of the room. It wasn't even the fact that the demon's head was turned as to be looking directly doubt me. No, it terrified me most in that room was the man leaning against the wall, hands bound behind his back, as condemned to death as I was. The blood on his chest had dried and he was awake. His eyes only partly open, watching me with an unreadable expression. You look like shit, Jamie. I said, matter-of-factly, as I pulled myself up to lean against the base of the statue, the only thing nearby.
Starting point is 02:40:57 I've been busy. He said, mouth curling up into a sarcastic smile. I'm sorry, I killed you again. Try to smile back. It's if only to keep the tears at bay. Nah, we'll survive this. I admire your optimism, but look around. Rested my elbows on my knees and sunk my head into my arms.
Starting point is 02:41:18 I lived through it once before, didn't I? Yeah, about that. How? Oh, man, this exposition dumping is fucking, ugh. Woo! Don't you love it? Aren't you so happy that the mysterious, creepy creature is now just like a bunch of dialogue? About a week after you left things started disappearing around town.
Starting point is 02:41:39 People, buildings, even roads. No one remembered them but me. Then one day, I woke up in an empty house. My dad and my brother were gone. So I fled the only place I knew was safe The damn church I figured it was the one place the demon would never go
Starting point is 02:41:54 I don't know how long I lived there But it felt like years I slept to the church And traveled to nearby towns To steal what I needed to live And then one day The towns were gone All of them
Starting point is 02:42:07 So I decided to find the thing My dad was gone My mom didn't remember me And the only person who knew Who I was lived in a thousand miles away So I went from town to town Until I found it I was just there
Starting point is 02:42:23 Standing in the center of town Nobody even thought it was weird I was a pro at drawing sigils But then since I did I spent so much time at Deadwood And scheduled had to be perfect to work So I tried to ward it It would take a little while But the statue always managed to break them
Starting point is 02:42:41 I find out a little further from its base every night People didn't even seem to notice this statue had moved what they didn't notice or what they did notice however was some kid loitering around their town since I looked older the time was getting wary of me anyway I joined the local police force and spent my nights
Starting point is 02:42:59 on patrol downtown keeping an eye on the thing reapplying sigils occasionally I'd wake up outside and I'd know my wards had finally failed then I had to track it to a new town and star all over
Starting point is 02:43:12 why didn't it just kill you I asked myself that a few years ago when your name came up. I think it needed me to find you, ironically. In the end, it didn't need me at all. It came anyway. Okay. I thought about that and wondered for the first time if I actually had come back to prove myself sane. And I really intended to kill it or prove I'd been right. I'd actually been about Jamie all along. It took a long time, a lot of towns. But I finally figured out what I was doing wrong.
Starting point is 02:43:49 A sedge will slow it down. But in order to stop it, the war needs to be blessed and not just by anyone. The second son of a Roman Catholic, preferably from a sissy, a sissy Italy. A sissy, I think. Yeah. Preferably from a sissy Italy, or at least near the region. Don't ask me how I figured that out. It would be funny.
Starting point is 02:44:11 She's like, how'd you figure it out? Okay, I'll tell you. How did you figure it out? During my travels, I went to a sissy Italy. So what happened to your second son from a sissy Italy? He disappeared. Shit. That'd be so funny.
Starting point is 02:44:28 If that ever comes up again. Yeah. It's like, you need the second son of a Roman Catholic from a sissy Italy. What happened to him? He died. Okay. Well, that's not, that's not Pog. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:43 By that point, I was a sheriff and I'd been in the city over. They came back to town to find my exit missing. The statue was gone. And that's when James and Scott got a hold of it. And that's why you're protecting him? You think I was protecting him? No. He was transparent about his attentions from the start.
Starting point is 02:45:02 I applied to be in his detail, but was denied. No name, no experience. I only got on because I was able to take out all the bodyguards in sort of a hand-to-hand comment trial. I only got on because I was able to take out all of his bodyguards and a sort of hand-to-hand combat trial guess those trips to the police academy finally paid off boy oh boy the fall
Starting point is 02:45:31 the fall from grace agreed how does James and Scott know more about the statute than we do oh my God so much dialogue because he had almost 80 people on his staff who did nothing but travel every corner of the globe are you still here I'm speechless
Starting point is 02:45:53 I understand I'm just gonna keep powering through I'm just gonna keep powering through the combat trial I think is the wildest we're getting to levels of monster hunter so what you're a monster hunter it's gonna be like so demon hunter huh because he had almost 80 people on his staff
Starting point is 02:46:12 who did nothing but travel every corner of the globe looking for any scrap of information on Metoraxes. All of this is inferred. This could have been solved with, I spent time looking. It would come from town to town. I guess it wanted you.
Starting point is 02:46:25 Done. That's it. The rest can be inferred. We can come up with it in our memory or in our mind or something. Why do we need to know that he had a hand-to-hand combat trial or that meta-rat...
Starting point is 02:46:36 We aren't the first ones to live to tell the tail. Just the first to stick around. I did all I could to keep people away from that thing. A name would be engraved down one day and a new name the next it took me a long time to figure out what he was doing and by then your name had come up he's became obsessed with you and i damn sure wasn't going to let him find you
Starting point is 02:46:59 well that explains why you were mad when you saw me mad katie i've never been more terrified in my life i spent years leading him down false past willing to have you present present yourself like a lamb for slaughter I'm sorry Jamie I wish it all your fucking time You spent 13 years trying to protect me And I spent all that time trying to forget you Well It's no lesson I wanted for you
Starting point is 02:47:26 To forget about this place and me I heard the familiar stone on stone sound from above me Is there any chance of reasoning with him Your boss I mean Not likely He fed his own daughter that thing He what? For the greater good he said.
Starting point is 02:47:44 God, Jamie, I don't want to die. I don't want you to die. You're not going to die here. Not today. Why do you think this hasn't killed us yet? It's trying. Scott kept a close watch over his demon, but I managed to get one thing by him.
Starting point is 02:48:02 A statue is sitting on a sigil of the size of a mini-Cooper. It's not blessed, but it's big. You're a brilliant bastard, James Caras. No. No, you made that one up. Oh my gosh, it's in there. That's actually real. Well, I've sure had a lot of time.
Starting point is 02:48:24 Honor. Bro, I am just trying to push through this so we can be done with this. This is why I tell people, too, why we shouldn't read the fucking sequels this stuff. Every time. Do creepcast rule. Unless the story is known for its sequels, like the case of the role, the roleplay. my wife's taking our role play too far. Unless the story was written with sequels in mind,
Starting point is 02:48:48 or Barasca, right, the first four parts, we are not doing other parts. It's crazy. I don't know. I don't know. I just want to get through it. It's big, you brilliant bastard, James Carroll. Did someone else start writing part three?
Starting point is 02:49:07 Maybe she was possessed by a demon and got killed by a gargoyle. I don't know. He walked over and stood me up. He was whatever tool he had picked his own cuffs with to free me. I heard them click, but when they fell to the floor, all I heard was the loud grinding of stone on stone again. It was louder and longer this time. Don't look at it, Katie. Don't look up.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Jamie. I breathed, terrified. Suddenly a face appeared behind Jamie. But this time, I wasn't hypnotized by it. Jamie saw the color drain from my face and grabbed me. Follow me now! He yelled. pushed me in front of him to the gift shop door.
Starting point is 02:49:45 I heard more movement from behind us and turned around while Jamie typed a long sequence of numbers into the card reader keypad. The creature had turned its head and it was watching me. It was alive, as alive as it had ever been. The statue took a step off its platform which shook the museum floor. Its movements were silent, yet fluid and flexible,
Starting point is 02:50:02 like a cartoon on mute. Jamie, working on it! Something else is, like, the creature design's still cool. Like, this giant thing that's completely silent, but it's made of stone and walking. Like, I like the description of the cartoon on mute. Like, there's still cool stuff happening adjacent to it, but whatever.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Suddenly, the keypad flashed green and the door clicked open. Jamie drew a black marker out of his pocket and drew a long line down the middle of the sigil, negating it. What are you doing? Just trust me. Jamie pushed me out the door. We slammed it behind us and tore across the gift shop to the exit. The door was locked. I turned around to tell Jamie as much, but he,
Starting point is 02:50:42 He was already hurling a table through the window. It shattered just as I saw the door on the other side of the room began to bend as it was pushed in from the other side. How did you unlock that door? I asked as we ran across the parking lot. Scott isn't the only one who's good with programming. Ugh. I close my eyes.
Starting point is 02:51:08 Only for a moment. Then the moment's gone. Dust in the wind. All we are is dust in the wind. I think I'm going to do it tonight. I don't think I could do it anymore. I think it's... Right before the tour,
Starting point is 02:51:33 also, right before our first date of the door. What, wait, you see, he's not the only one that's good with programming. He pushes up glasses, pulls out swords. slices demon in half. The demon sets still for a second and then looks around and then like realizes he's cut in half and then falls apart. And then he explodes. Simpai Jamie.
Starting point is 02:51:55 Jamie, son. Jamie, why are you just like trunks? I followed him to a black jeep sitting at the edge of the parking lot. We jumped in just as a loud bang echoed across the asphalt. God only knows what it meant. Jay. Hunter. Huh?
Starting point is 02:52:12 the hunter what just just read the sentence at the end of this paragraph the beginning chords to highway to hell blasts for the speakers what are we getting punked away to hell damn yeah yeah yeah i will say this is to where i'm like this is just i'm like this is the cringe is building up like beads of sweat on my okay maybe maybe maybe maybe we now maybe part three is supposed maybe it's like uh Army of Darkness. Oh my god, wait. Why not? I shrugged as I turned it up. clearly this is a comedy right no it's like no it's made it's been taking itself seriously it's army of darkness it's army of darkness right no it's not army of darkness it's not army of darkness at all it's not being campy and fun the whole time this is not tales from the gas station
Starting point is 02:53:27 that that is a that is a tales from the gas station line and event right there is it not i feel like if this part three is a tales from the gas station by though because i can't think of it being serious at any part to part three. You haven't had the characters react at all in a way that would indicate that it's supposed to be that though. It tells us with the gas station it plays it very from the beginning. Like it it doesn't dip its toe. It's fully jumps in and it's like this is what this is. But do you think that maybe part three is supposed to be campy? No. I well you know what if it is that's bullshit. You can't you can't give me something one through two and the completely tone shift. It's almost like if you fucking if you had the movie the pianist.
Starting point is 02:54:10 on and all of a sudden it becomes a slapstick comedy at the end it's like okay well it's been about the fucking holocaust this entire time you get me you can't all of a sudden making it early 2000s comedy you know what I mean the audience saw that on screen but for the audio listeners who don't know the sentence I freaked out over uh get in a jeep and it says jamie shoved his keys in the ignition and turned the car over the beginning chords to highway to hell blasted from the speakers why not I shrugged as I turned it up Jamie nodded and peeled out of the parking lot. We tore through town like the devil himself was chasing us,
Starting point is 02:54:46 which wasn't far from the truth. Babatz. It was early, the first race of sunlight streaming through the trees as we hit the highway. We had to go more than five miles when a white SUV appeared behind us. It followed at a considerable distance. Why aren't they overtaking us? Because this is what he wants.
Starting point is 02:55:08 Scott knows where we're going. where are we going deepwood fuck i said as i leaned back in the chair but i trusted jamie so i didn't object won't it take the creature dazed to make it there i asked i and jamie speedometer which was at 90 it doesn't always move like that he sometimes travels on another plane i can't explain it everything changes and warps around that thing even time that's why i'm about eight years older than i should be I got to explain every single fucking thing to you, in the first couple parts of the story, we mentioned how time changes around it,
Starting point is 02:55:59 and it has been mentioned twice now that I am significantly older than you. So the audience cannot put those two factors together. So I will now explicitly say that I am precisely eight years older than I should be due to time differences created by the demon. How way to hell?
Starting point is 02:56:19 Are you women? Who are to mail on the street? For the ride on the street. Just give you one time. Just give them good. I'm going to have to be a lot of ones are going to make you mad. I'm going to take you down.
Starting point is 02:56:37 Take it down. I'm down. I don't know. By those in January, I'm gonna, party, a party, party trigger.
Starting point is 02:56:49 Shoot the dream. What I care. Too many winners and two in a bit. Shoot a deal. One of the key. I got, too many.
Starting point is 02:57:01 Go to fire a wheel. I'm going to shoot the deal and I'm ready and give and give it. And I'm getting a love and a kid. So that is going to do.
Starting point is 02:57:13 Shoot the truth. Why are you too. So that is going on on the speakers blaring. And the guy's like, yeah. That's even why he doesn't really travel like we do. Also, that's why I'm eight years older. She's like, right. That makes sense.
Starting point is 02:57:35 Thanks for explaining that. We better get to Deepwood fast. I'm doing it tonight. I can't take this anymore. Benny, come here. Come over. I'm going it. Ah!
Starting point is 02:57:57 Okay. Okay. He suddenly whipped off the road and headed for the tree line. The truck behind us did the same and we maneuvered randomly through the trees. Though I figured Jamie. knew where we were going. How far? I asked after 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:58:15 Six miles, but you know how time is out here. Did I ever? Four minutes, yet somehow six miles later, we bumped over a set of railroad tracks and arrived at the damn church, which looked smaller and more impotent than it did in my nightmares. The front door opened easily this time, and I gave an involuntary shutter when I saw the Jesus statue. looking more judgmental now than ever before
Starting point is 02:58:41 the trapdoor is open you lived here for years and you never closed the trap door believe me tight ride Jamie grab my hand and guided me to the hole in the floor we have to go down there
Starting point is 02:58:54 fuck no it's the only way this will end Katie you gotta be kidding me I muttered as I took the first reluctant step down wait you said it wouldn't either come back here
Starting point is 02:59:09 it would for you I think you're doing it right at this point just reading full bore anime like well it's like that's kind of what they've been reading so I feel like it that's probably I'm guessing that was the author's intention of it's like very dramatic right yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:59:27 it would for you I think I think we've nailed it now that it is supposed to be like regardless if you think the story should have gone that way or not this is horror comedy for sure it has to be you don't accidentally write a highway
Starting point is 02:59:41 to hell reference it to it thunder that I was called in the middle railroad track thunder
Starting point is 02:59:59 that I do that I do there we go cut it back thunder And I raised, and I thought, what could I do? That I do! There was no help, no help from you.
Starting point is 03:00:24 Thunder. We're not going to do that. I just want to get to part one say, To be. Don't destroy. Day I hear, that's distra. Too bad to be done to destroy. yeah the whole time as you sitting there and you're just like you've been you've never shut the trap door
Starting point is 03:00:45 just behind her oh wow wow yeah I didn't realize until halfway through us singing highway to hell that we switched in to shoot to thrill yeah I couldn't remember the lyrics to highway to hell so I just went to shoot the thrill okay um what jimmy followed behind me and took the stairs down on shaky step at a time jamie followed behind me flashlight in hand uh i did why did it didn't see it until right before we reached the bottom demon was already here waiting for us stood in the same position we first found him in 13 years before, that this time its face was not stone. Demon's eyes swept across the room in a wide arc.
Starting point is 03:01:45 His tail was wrapped around the bottom of the staircase. If he was already down here, why couldn't we stay up there? He wasn't. There were no wards to protect us now and nowhere to run. I couldn't help thinking this was a bad plan. Well, he's here now, so let's go. We can't, Katie.
Starting point is 03:02:05 If we leave now, he will too. Well, then, what's your plan, Jamie? Jamie said nothing, just stared at the demon, who was now staring back at him. Suddenly, I felt something like a tug in the pit of my stomach. I stepped back and then it happened again. I looked up into the creature's eyes, which had moved to mine and suddenly realized what was happening. There was another tug, harder this time, and I felt my mind, if not my body, being pulled towards the demon's head. A long black tongue jutted out to welcome me and the creature's mouth began to widen.
Starting point is 03:02:38 so this was it, the nothingness. The demon's mouth was so wide I could have simply walked into it if I had a body. The blackness started to close in on all sides, creating a sort of tunnel vision, and then, in a violent jolt, I was snapped back into my body,
Starting point is 03:02:53 a perfect sigil drawn on my chest and black marker. The creature screamed an ear-splitting sound, and Jamie flung me over his shoulder before I had even re-established my bearings. We were to the top of the staircase in under a minute, the demon's still emitting a deafening wail. something was wailing in my ear from the ACDC song
Starting point is 03:03:13 then I realized it was the creature I heard ACDC only to realize it was the creature that plays ACDC it was only Bond Scott the creature I'm sorry I was sure it would come for me first we burst into the nave and Jamie seeing our company before I did pushed me across the altar towards the crucifes
Starting point is 03:03:38 fiction, which I took out as I fell. I scrambled back, kicking it away from me as I did. By the time I looked up, James and Scott was standing in front of the trap door, a gun to Jamie's head. His men hung back but looked eager to get involved at a word from their boss. Get back down there, Miss Ross.
Starting point is 03:03:55 This is like a Nathan Drake scenario with, okay. Yes. Fuck you. The last words was drowned out by a loud cracking sound that echoed through the little church as the spiral staircase came crashing down below us.
Starting point is 03:04:09 Oh my God, I thought it was actually going to be thunder for a second, and I was going to laugh so hard. Like what? You know what would make this, I think, the best story on Creepcast ever? Hmm. If, like, an angel flies in through the top of the church and, like, kills them. There's a lady who knows all their room is gone. Katie, don't!
Starting point is 03:04:36 Jamie caught a knee to the ribs. Some of which I was pretty sure we're already broken. Scramble back further. There's no staircase now. There's no way to get down there. Oh, sure there is. His hired men laughed. You're going to die either way.
Starting point is 03:04:58 At least this way. You'll save his life. Mitteraxis is trapped down there. Now see fucking Meteraxis sounds like a goddamn Yu-Gi-Oh card, so I can't take it serious. At least this way, you'll save his life. Manoraxus is trapped down there for time being. So it's to, uh, so it's to cellar you must go.
Starting point is 03:05:17 Perhaps you shouldn't have injured him by breaking his bond mid-feed. Katie! Don't be fucking stupid. Just run! Fuck now, Jamie. I didn't leave you in this place and I won't now. Time to pay my dues. I stood up to walk to the edge of the trap door.
Starting point is 03:05:36 Perhaps if fate was kind, I would die when I hit the floor 30 feet below. I looked up at Jamie and took my last words to be for him. I knew the moment he realized that intent. Jamie jerked his body forward and threw himself and Scott into the dark hole between us. I screamed if Scott's been scattered out the door.
Starting point is 03:06:01 I skid over to the side of the hole, tripping over the smaller statue on the way. I'm here. Came a pain grown from Jamie, who was just barely clutching onto the side. Thank you to every deity I knew of. I pulled him out of the hole and back into the nave. His wound, how did she pull him? His wound was bleeding fresh blood, and I knew we didn't have much time.
Starting point is 03:06:20 I laid him on his back as he started to slip in unconsciousness, applying pressure to his shoulder. The bone came from the trap door behind us. Help me. Please. I'm hurt. So Scott had survived the fall. I grimaced and pulled myself over to the edge to peer into the darkness below.
Starting point is 03:06:37 I could, okay, I'm just, I am just guaranteeing you right now, right now. There's going to be, hold on, hold on. There's going to be a quip. There's going to be a one-liner when she shuts a door or something. Something just like, you know, I don't know. I have a just feeling there's going to be a quip, and then all of a sudden the demons go and grab him instead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:56 It'll be like, no, I'm saying she's going to make a quip at him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then he's going to be like, yeah, then you still get grabbed. It's like the raincore scene in Star Wars. My blood began to boil as I let James and Scott wail away his swan song. Please, it's staring at me. I can feel it. Please name your price.
Starting point is 03:07:17 I'll pay it. Just save me. Oh, now. Why would I do that, Mr. Scott? This is what you wanted after all. Suddenly, the trap door slammed shut. Jamie standing over it as the entire building began to shake. The edges around the door grew bright, like molten metal before darkening like a blown-out flame.
Starting point is 03:07:36 Did it just incinerate him? Like a furnace. Will it hold? I yelled to Jamie over the increasingly loud earthquake. Is it blessed? Some say by God himself. I'd say that count. Jamie hoisted me up next to him and ran for the door as bit of ceiling began to cave in.
Starting point is 03:08:03 The door to the church swung open of its own volition before we. we got there and slammed shut behind us. The church came down in a butt of dust and splintered wood. When all had settled, Jamie was barely conscious. I walked him to the car and pushed him into the passenger seat. He was out before I'd shut the door. I took one last look at the pile of rubble before climbing into the driver's seat and staring and starting the car. I followed the same train tracks home that got us out of deepwood when we were kids. I made it to the road without ever looking back. I can tell you exactly how long
Starting point is 03:08:35 James and Scott lived, four days. By the dawn of that fourth day, he and all of his inventions abruptly disappeared from the world. If he was right about technology, it's like planes fell from the sky. Billions are dead. No shit.
Starting point is 03:08:53 There were a few, I was sad to see go, like the rise of inductive charging and eyeglass. What? Wait, so they just disappeared? Hold on. How did you remember any of this? I don't know, dude. I thought the whole thing was anyone who gets...
Starting point is 03:09:10 Please, we're so close. You're right. What am I doing? You would have loved eyeglass, and you probably did, honestly. Contact lenses that were actually cameras. They put GoPro out of business. You can never afford it, but you may have had one. I miss those YouTube videos.
Starting point is 03:09:29 Jamie spent a month recovering from his gunshot wound. after he was real this is literally like the end of movies where it's like the character freeze frames with the thumbs up and it's like
Starting point is 03:09:38 he went on to blah blah Jamie recovered after you know what you guys like that kind of thing yeah we spent a few weeks weighing our options
Starting point is 03:09:44 in the end we decided to hunt down people like Jameson Scott and the powers they will what? I don't know
Starting point is 03:09:50 hunt down people like Jameson Scott what do you what are you hunting rich people people who have demon powers
Starting point is 03:09:58 you did it you you have messed up One demon hunt so much that 20% of Pennsylvania never existed. That is how bad you are at this thing. So now you're just hunting. Okay. You don't know about them. And if we have our way, you never will.
Starting point is 03:10:15 Uh-huh. Due to Jamie's time with Scott, we have some good leads. We have a lot of blood on our hands to atone for and a lifetime to do it in. Deepwood is dead. Only Jam and I even know where it is. So the town dies with us. I want to try to find it if I were you. I've changed a lot of details.
Starting point is 03:10:30 names of towns, names of roads. Perhaps even when this all happened, I won't tell you and you don't want to know anyway. Somewhere out in a hundred miles sea of trees and dirt lies the demon's door. Still under a pile of rotting detritus that used to be a small church. The door may be found again someday.
Starting point is 03:10:50 It may even be opened. But one thing is for damn sure. It sure as hell won't be because of me. The end. Oh, God. That is the end. Okay, first off, just want to say the story is the idea is there it's well written but just the way that this second half after the last the last two parts the way that they unfolded especially in part three it's really
Starting point is 03:11:10 like the last 40% of the story yeah honestly yeah i would say like even the introduction in the beginning yeah i mean love the beginning wish we wouldn't have read the part two and three even part two of having a some kind of connection years later and returning to this place I like that approach but it just always accumulates to like what would you have really done? Like what is there to really be gained? That becomes like a big thing
Starting point is 03:11:36 with a lot of like sequels and stuff with horror media is it's just the idea of like what kind of thing do you plan on gaining besides some kind of hope that there is a resolution that can ease the pain of your past. You know,
Starting point is 03:11:50 during the break you had a good, um, a good thought where it's like, it kind of reminds us of it where you really only give a fuck about the kid version of it. And then why? Watching the adults go back and try to make sense of this crazy thing out of something that is so crazy that it can only exist in some of this childlike wonder. It just doesn't hold the same candle.
Starting point is 03:12:10 You're also trying to make too much rationale out of something that is so absurd. So that's why it doesn't really land. And I think the first one ends in such a fun way of girl who is kind of like flirting with a guy to go find something spooky, stumbles across essentially a haunted house. It's like the wonderless of child. childhood. It's like there's the unexplainable, them stumbling across something they can never hope to best. And in
Starting point is 03:12:34 their, it ends on the note of like because of their foolishness, the creature got out, right? And that's like it. That's like a haunting. It's a heavy moment. It is the ultimate creepcast. It is the biggest creepcast curse, which is you start with a really strong idea.
Starting point is 03:12:50 You get really bought in with it of just like having so fun in the universe, which this author does that very well. I think we even talked about that during our first recording of the first part of the story is that she does a great job by just like setting you up really liking the characters liking the hook of the story of what's happening and setting that like motion forward and I think that it's become it's it's it's an ongoing complaint we have where it's just like it was just so you had you hook line sinker and it's
Starting point is 03:13:18 just something whenever it's like you really try to over examine these simple or like kind of face value ideas that it kind of falls apart in the second half where you know it doesn't can't really hold up to that kind of a fun mystery or that fun question that the story is presenting to you. And sometimes I think that's just what a story should be is just like, wouldn't this be crazy? I think a big way that the second half of this story would have done well for me. And I will say I am biased because one thing I really don't like is in even media, like in a lot of horror media or media in general is like rich bad guy. I'm the rich bad guy who is nefarious and who wants like the Dr. Evil parody. That's the kind of like whole vibe of
Starting point is 03:13:56 what this is. We grew up with it. We just seen it so much that it's like, oh, exactly. The rich guy with all the money was the bad one. What? Right. No. Well, I like the idea that you go back through the story, right? Or the way the woman goes back, uh, Caitlin goes back to try to, once again, get some kind of resolution to this pain she's feeling and this guilt she has of letting this thing out. I almost wish that it was something where there was maybe only a handful of characters or it was just her. in the woods trying to find something and then whenever she does find this thing it does it doesn't over explain we don't get all these kind of crazy you know she she does it's it's a human experience of like some things humans are you just can't wrap your head around there's a lot of it that's a lot of big fun ideas is something is so old and so mysterious that you can't wrap your head around it but she had to find some kind of way to make peace with herself um in the woods somehow as well like you i think you can have a similar ending like i don't know maybe she's still find
Starting point is 03:14:56 James somehow or something, but I wish it was just a bit more condensed and a bit more to if you do want the villain rich guy who owns it route, then I think the suggestion you made is really good, make Jamie become corrupted. And he feels like what he's doing is for the greater good because you have two people who had the same experience years ago and then two different ways they branched out, one trying to long for their friend and the other trying to keep it at bay through any means necessary, right? Well, it's kind of interesting. You have Katie, who's completely plagued by it, and then you have a Jamie who has done nothing but profited from it. And those are two different angles that I think could breed a lot of fun conflict with when they come back
Starting point is 03:15:36 together and they interact again. Yeah. You know, and it would have been cartoony, and it is cartooning. And I don't think there's anything wrong with the stories going to the cartooning room. Yeah, definitely. I'm sure that our viewers loved it. You know, I will say memorable episode. I really like the, just the setup. Like if anything, if anything comes from this, I really love just how this author sets up characters, younger characters with that kind of innate young optimism
Starting point is 03:16:07 and kind of like wonder to go out and search for this thing. And I love that she uses children in a great way where it's like the ignorant seekers that will do dangerous things because they don't really understand how creepy and odd it is. Barasca is one of my favorite stories I've ever read about like that whole thing about the young kids like wonderless
Starting point is 03:16:29 because it's just like oh there's the skin men up in the mountains and it like captured the childhood like magic so well and then it preyed upon that you know from now we can see it too she's done these kind of these fun bait and switch kind of like reveals in her stories where in Barasca
Starting point is 03:16:47 the masterful reveal that like oh wait all the kids are like related to each other and the guys that were dating they're technically siblings or whatever and the skinned men you know like that being a red herring exactly being a red hearing as well she likes her red herrings because jameson was also a red herring and the but the the the the jameson thing once again i still personally i was just kind of like eh it left it kind of a better taste my mouth of i enjoy it not being jameson but i don't know i don't like the way that it went about it uh just with the name being so similar it's just kind of like oh yep i guess i am
Starting point is 03:17:20 stupid for thinking that was supposed to be him you know yeah the name all in all an enjoyable read albeit very emotional at the end I think that I'm glad that it went if anything here's nothing too I'm glad that if it went that direction I'm glad she went
Starting point is 03:17:35 full force for it like I'm glad that it wasn't just like mediocre they were playing ACDC and making yeah I mean like go for it have fun with it and I think that it translated well with even our reading even if it was this exhausting kind of Sisyphus like pushing the boulder up the hill
Starting point is 03:17:52 it was at least a fun push I had AirPods and listen to ECDC while I was doing it so Thank you. all right everybody we will talk we'll see you in the next one thank you so much for listening stay creeped out there my friends bye bye which one of us said that if we hit number one we would kill ourselves on air i'm already stopped recording okay You know,
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