CreepCast - It Came From A Fan… | Creep Cast

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

Hunter and Isaiah read stories submitted to the Creep Cast Subreddit! And it truly was-- a loss of innocence Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Creepcast. Today we are doing something that is a first for this channel, and it is going to be reading fan-made stories. We made a shout out a while ago, basically telling people that, you know, work on r slash no sleep gets deleted all the time i know that the rules are really strict there we read a lot from no sleep we read creepy pastas but we were like you know our subreddit at our slash creepcast we want people to just feel like they can write stuff there and there's even you know um there's been a nice big backlog of stuff using the tag of people using the tag fan made story and there's even been our moderators have collected threads of stories as well but we were going through today we were
Starting point is 00:00:58 kind of like, uh, you know, we had some ideas of what we wanted to record, but then we started looking at some of the stories here. And we just thought that we would do our own grab bag of viewer stories to see what is the talent in our little pool of listeners here, you know? Maybe there's some gyms just waiting to be uncovered. You know, why, why can't this be the new slash, why can't this be the new no sleep where, you know, new awesome horror stories are made? and I think it's going to happen. Well, maybe some of them, you know, are actually worth something.
Starting point is 00:01:33 You know, they ran some value to the earth. It'd be surprising out of our audience. But, you know, maybe there's something there. No, so there was a bunch of them. We read in Sorcelled in the Earth a while back, which we knew the author of that previously from, uh,
Starting point is 00:01:49 it breathes, it bleeds. Uh, and he had gotten that story in Sorcelled in the Earth. I believe it was. taken down off of no sleep. So he's like, I'm going to put it in creepcast because they liked the previous thing I did. So we, that's technically the first thing we've read from there, but we knew the author going
Starting point is 00:02:06 in. But there are honestly scrolling through close to 100 stories you guys have posted in our subreddit. So we went through. We found some titles that look interesting. And we are going to be reading those today. And also, as mentioned, we assume if you put it in our slash creepcast, it's fair game. It is free. It is free game.
Starting point is 00:02:27 and there is this is a free real estate for us there's going to be probably a wide variety of stories as with anything you know this is to encourage people even if it's you know we're laughing we're meming along and all that kind of stuff you should be creative and write right right right right and submit it and share it with people because that's the only way that fucking humankind keeps going is by sharing stories all right so that's how even even if one of these stories we read today makes Jeff the killer look like crime and punishment if it's just brutal
Starting point is 00:02:59 if we read a story today that makes Jeff the killer look like crime and punishment we will be reading this every week because that will only that that has to be absolute gold then literally we're sifting through literal gold of this moment
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm drowning in this stuff I'm really really excited also the reception so far on the Patreon has been awesome by this time we should have already our first episode up it is a bit of a bit of a crash out episode if i be it honest uh glad that we did put that one on the main channel we just kept reading even though yeah we probably shouldn't have so that was yeah i was going to say i remember the whole time it was like this is the first story on our
Starting point is 00:03:42 patreon so if you want to check that out be sure to uh check out our patreon you can uh go to and you know find new episodes there i think we're going to be trying to play this game called uh like what what was it called again? No. No, I'm not human. No, I'm not human.
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's like a little demo that looks really cool. I'm going to be trying doing that. Just doing some stuff, but we got a lot of cool stuff planned there. And as always, if you're watching us on YouTube and you're driving or you're heading to work, consider listening on Spotify or Apple Podcast. It really does help us out.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And without further ado, let's get into some of these stories. And I think the first one, when I was scrolling through, uh, there was a lot to unpackage. All right. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:20 The stories we're covering today are the missing person. I'm looking for no longer exists, which I think is a strong title. I like that one. It's, and then the next one is I've discovered a book that does not end the nursing home at the edge of the world. And then the last one that I want to read first because it's the shortest is called loss of innocence, all right, which I don't know why that tickled me in a way because here's a thing, loss of innocence and the, the user, the profile's gone.
Starting point is 00:04:49 They've deleted their profile since then. So I want you to know that if. you're watching this and you're the you're the uh luxurious author of this short story and it is very short come back to us i have to know uh but i'm this is going to be loss of innocence is the first fan story we're going to read and i i legitimately think it's going to kick us off into a good direction i just have to say for the way yeah the number of stories scrolling through our own subred it maybe we've cultivated this okay i'm not going to act like i'm innocent but the number of stories that were titled something to the effect of my dad wasn't nice to me or the thing
Starting point is 00:05:32 for my childhood and they all had not safe for work post on them there was an exorbitant amount of not safe for work stuff to the point where i was like i feel like we've just cultivated a smut like a smut like subreddit or whatever uh so you know here's just here's just a thing to throw out there. Don't write porn on the subreddit, please. And I don't know, try to be scary. I don't know. Or I'll go further
Starting point is 00:06:03 and say, do not write thinly veiled porn. It's like, yeah, they'll never know what this is. Yeah. One barrier of like, oh, but he had glowing eyes. Yeah. And then just back into it.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And then just back into immediate heavy back shot. That's pretty much what the stories are. So I don't know. We'll see. I don't think any of the ones who are reading today have the not safer work. I don't think we're brave enough to venture there yet. I mean, the title loss of innocence combined with the deleted account.
Starting point is 00:06:36 The loss of innocence with the deleted, exactly, with the deleted account, made me think that this is, if we're going to start off with something nice to short. This is, we're starting with the literal cherry on top, I think. So, Isaiah, without further ado, why don't you get us into this redacted, uh, profiles. Sorry. Yeah. So normally I like to be like, oh, this was written by. You could support them here, but this guy's dead. Yeah. We will also. We'll leave, we'll leave links to all of. They'll all be in the description. Yeah. Yeah. So that way you can go support them, comment on them, all that kind of stuff. And be sure to, you know, show some
Starting point is 00:07:12 interaction, show some love to these people because they did, uh, put themselves out there and fucking, you know. Also, also by the way, and I know this hasn't happened yet because we haven't done one of these yet. But if you're scrolling through the groupcast subreddit and see a story you like, be sure to upvote it because when I was looking through to trying to pick out stories for us to read, a lot of them, even once that people in the comments seem to like didn't have that many upvotes, probably because just not a ton of people are going through and checking them out. Yeah. But if something gets a bunch of up votes, we are more likely to check it out. Yeah, I think you know, if the community likes it, we'll read it. Yeah, that's people going in and
Starting point is 00:07:49 being like, hey, I support this one. They should read this. That's kind of how we are looking at that. which now that you know, go support it. Isaiah, dive us in. Divis in. All right. Loss of innocence by redacted. A few months ago, I was in an accident. My friend and I were driving home.
Starting point is 00:08:06 My friend and I were just. My friend and I were driving home from work when a young one on a bicycle came out of nowhere and smashed into my friend's car at 80 miles an hour. Okay. Pause. Okay, time out real quick. now now isa are they saying that the bicycle was going 80 miles an hour
Starting point is 00:08:27 or where there was a friend's car going 80 miles an hour what if they were both if they were both going 80 miles an hour does a neutron star just form in life as we know it sees to me i think she just gets atomized across it's like the fucking the submersible going down to the titanic they just implode and turn to it find dust that little the submarine that imploded what made me laughing is I was reading my friend and I were driving and underneath
Starting point is 00:09:00 like I can see the line beneath it I just smashed 80 miles per hour all right so we don't know we don't know for a fact if it's I'm going to assume the young woman on the bicycle was going at 80 miles an hour all right tour to France downhill Lance Armstrong
Starting point is 00:09:18 let's go 80 miles an hour on a bicycle is like light speed and that's what she was doing falling down a cliff she had a beautiful summer dress flowing and she was perfectly up straight she wasn't even like in a speed pose
Starting point is 00:09:33 she was perfectly up straight legs legs outstretched her legs weren't even on the petals she was just barely this is going to be this is going to be really rough if at the end this is just like an actual confession the author is making of someone that really dies
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's beautiful. And me and you were joking about, like, how brutal it was. Yeah. All right. We got out as soon as we realized what happened, called an ambulance, but unfortunately, the one, pause, sorry. I'm not going to keep something, but what do you mean if we got out as soon as we realized? Because as soon as she was going.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Hold on a second. Hunter, putter. Hutter. Because. Aaron, pull the car over. I think, no. I think we hit something. No.
Starting point is 00:10:20 dude she was going 80 miles an hour it would have looked like a flash yeah like it looked like it looked like a like a fly hitting the window for a moment like what was that it was like a meteor yeah then they see a fucking woman on like a 1950s uh bicycle just like flinging through the air all right sorry that's the last time i'm going to stop it okay there the woman died choking on her own blood at the scene the investigators analyzed the scene and cleared my friend of any wrongdoing and ruled it a freak accident. My friend wouldn't listen to reason, though. His guilt consumed him entirely ever since.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I understood how he felt to an extent, but I couldn't help him accept that it wasn't his fault. He was utterly destroyed by what had happened, and felt that he would never be able to be forgiven for what he had done. Over the next few weeks, he got worse and worse. He would often talk about wanting to travel back in time, so he would have never been driving the car that day. try to convince him that he needed to seek professional help because he needs to accept that it wasn't his fault.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He wouldn't listen though and over the coming weeks he came to work less and less. And whenever he did come, he looked awful like he wasn't sleeping. The last time I saw him at work, he told me he wished he never grew up because humans are bound to harm others no matter how hard they try not to as adults. What are you talking about? I wish I was never fucking born I was never born because adults are too they always harm each other fuck I'm a tipping I'm a ticking time bomb Jared
Starting point is 00:11:55 I'm a fucking ticking time bomb you should kill yourself Jared because you're going to hurt someone too that's what's going to happen is Jared I also there's no names in the story I'm just saying Jared but Hunter a woman lost her life choking on her own blood not from
Starting point is 00:12:15 being not from blunt force drama from being struck by a car while she was going to a miles an hour to bike she somehow landed the pool of blood collected her mouth and she was like oh yo i didn't even see you i shouldn't have been driving that's what humans do hunter well i'm an adult so i shouldn't have been driving behind the wheel i should have known this would have happened if it wasn't you to hurt each other if it wasn't you I would have I would have driven up on the side of a sidewalk and crushed it to another human being because it's just my it's my adult urge okay I urged him to see a doctor because he was clearly mentally unstable and beating himself up for something out of his control he
Starting point is 00:13:00 wouldn't listen and just said I know what I need to do now that was the last time I saw him until the night it had been two weeks I don't know why you said that as if I don't know why you said that you were reading something really quickly. Like you said that the way people that can't read. I'll re-read. No, no, no. No, the way you went, I know what I need to do now. I know what I need to do now.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I know what I need to do now. There you. No, I like the first one better. That was the last time I saw him until tonight. Yes, until tonight. It had been two weeks since that day at work. He hasn't come in again. And our manager told me he had to let him go for good this time.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I understood. After my shift, I went over to my friend's place to check up on him. The lights were on, and I could hear the TV on, so I knew he was here. I knocked and called out, but there was no answer. I twisted the handle, luckily or unluckily, the door was unlocked. I stepped into his apartment, which was lit up only by the TV playing kids' cartoons in the living room, and a dim light coming from this bedroom gore, which was slightly cracked at the end of the hall. Is he going to be a giant fucking baby?
Starting point is 00:14:14 he's going to be a giant fucking baby that would be something our viewer of this show would right they're putting last time we saw a man become a baby we enjoyed it a lot well I exactly well I just I'm just saying he's putting emphasis on like
Starting point is 00:14:30 oh that's why that's why I wish it was never adult and then be like I know what I have also I they never just said what his job is so I like to think that he's a deep sea diver so they're like on a boat and he's like I know what I have to do and he hasn't seen him and he goes to his house and there's just like
Starting point is 00:14:46 SpongeBob playing on the TV. Okay, sorry, go ahead. Why a deep sea diver? Because I just, I don't know. I mean, like at first I was thinking a pizza shop, but I think that's just because
Starting point is 00:14:58 he was driving. So I'm like, oh, he's like a pizza delivery driver driver's what I was thinking. But then I was like, well, it could be nothing. And then I was like going around.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I'm like, it'd be really funny if his job was like super centric for no reason. Because it's like, it doesn't make a difference. But now, And I got my head too much about it. And now I think that he's a deep sea diver.
Starting point is 00:15:18 All right. Yeah. That makes perfect sense to me, I guess. Okay, good. I call that again, no answer. I looked around closer at the apartment. It was disgusting. Cans of baby food.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Oh. Oh, Hunter. God damn, did. You might be right. Cans of baby food littered the floor and rags covered in shit and pissed remind them in the narrow hallway. the smell was horrible and made me gag i heard some movement from my friend's bedroom i called out again and heard a strange moan answer as i got closer to his bedroom the smell got stronger and more vile
Starting point is 00:16:00 announced i was coming in for gently pushing the door open what i seen in his room still haunts me my friend was on all fours wearing nothing but a shit-filled rag that was damp and leaking His head shaved all over, except for a small patch of wispy hair like a newborns on the top of his head. On the floor, his teeth lay in a small scattered pile, surrounded by a dried-up blood. When he saw me and looked into my eyes and began crying a deep and horrible cry like an overgrown baby, his mouth dripped blood from his bloody gums. I could barely process what I was seeing. I couldn't help, but back away out of fear.
Starting point is 00:16:43 but this seemed to anger him. He began crawling towards me clumsily, but with surprising speed. I turned to run out as he grabbed my leg as I fled, making me trip and slam to the floor. I frantically crawled away, but he was on top of me. He flipped me over on my back and wrapped his strong hands around my throat. As he choked to me, I stared deeply in his eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I saw nothing over the pain and a desperate desire to be forgiven. Instead of fighting him, I gently touched his face, gave him a look to communicate that I forgave him. him and just wanted to help. He seemed to understand and let go of my neck. He began bawling again, crawled into the corner of the hallway and curled up in a ball. He sat there with my friend as he cried until he fell asleep. I'm sitting outside his apartment waiting for paramedics as I write this.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Just hope when they get here, my friend's able to get the help he clearly needs. That is the end of loss of innocence. Loss of Innocence is such a good title. I will say I will say I like the the teeth thing like he wants to be a baby so he rips his own teeth out yeah listen the idea of a guy turning into a baby which I wonder if the guy wrote this because he was like my my husband's taking our role play too far wonder if he wonder if he thought that was interesting the idea of a guy uh like reverting back to a baby is funny him colliding into a woman at astronomical speeds being the thing that triggers. it is very funny also uh the justification of it being like this is why i never wanted to get old it's because something like this would happen is uh is pretty funny if this was a little longer it had more dialogue this probably would have been like in like just a really funny thing it just it's it's short compact i wish there was more i love it's it's absurd i love also that i
Starting point is 00:18:38 don't know anything about these characters they don't know what their names are don't know where they worked. It's just a thing of one day they were driving together. There are buddies. I think they were working and, uh, they, he basically killed someone. His deep sea diver was like you got you're fired. It's a
Starting point is 00:18:57 tragic tale of a deep sea diving man. What'd you think? What did you? Out of, out of, out of five creeps, what would you give loss of innocence? A five crees. Uh, I mean, for fun, I'd give it three. I mean, if we're talking about the horror,
Starting point is 00:19:13 One would be nothing. So I would say two because I do like the idea of like a grown man that's just like wearing these diapers and rags and smells disgusting and he's ripping his own teeth out. That's a fun visual. Why do you think why do you think the baby version of? I think it was way too short for the concept and that's why it kind of comes off as comedic because what otherwise could have been like long and like mental deterioration was just adults hurt people.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I can't be an adult. So he goes and does that. So you know, I feel like the shortness. plays against it a lot, but it is a fun concept. This could have been 700 pages long, Isaiah. It could have been as long as infinite jest. And if the man reverts back to a baby because he killed somebody and he was like, this is why I never wanted to grow up.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's going to be funny. All right. There's no way to get around that those, those things. I mean, to be fair, it truly was a loss of innocence, wasn't it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was in fact, a loss of innocence. I'm glad we read it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I think there's stuff there. I think it was fun. I think whoever that author is, even though they deleted their account and they're now gone from the earth. Yeah, keep writing. Come back to us because I, this is, I love this. Wait, this episode is sponsored by Ridge Wallet.
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Starting point is 00:21:21 There's a couple questions I had. One, he, uh, it seems like the baby knew that the guy was coming in there, right? Because he was set there and he was like, uh, where's the deal at? I called out, uh, yeah, I called it again and heard a strange remote answer, which made me think of the peanut butter baby. is what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So he's sitting there and he's like, you know, hey, Carl, are you there? He's like, uh, in the other room.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So it's like, he knew that he's coming in. So I'm wondering, what I'm wondering is. Why the hell did he strangle this son of a bitch? He gave him a peanut butter baby answer. Uh, and he's still mad.
Starting point is 00:22:09 What the fuck is up with that? Or is, because he's just the baby the baby choked him no that's what i'm saying the baby gave him the peanut butter baby answer with the strange bone uh right carl are you here uh so he knows he's there so to me i'm like is it just the pure loss of innocence that's what made this baby would the baby have killed anyone i guess is what i'm is the is the answer i want to know if anyone would have walked i mean no i'm maybe i don't know Again, the story is so short.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It doesn't really like a specular me. Humor me with speculation. Yes, the baby would have killed anyone who came through the door. All right. Okay. Well, then would you say that his strange moan was that of the peanut butter baby? Sure. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:23:02 My questions, I guess, have been answered. Can we go down to the next story? Moving on. That was loss of innocence. By Redacted. Please come back to us. Redacted. A peanut butter baby,
Starting point is 00:23:16 a deep sea diver turning into the peanut butter baby is pretty funny. And I like that. Also, too, naming your story, loss of innocence is awesome. Really funny. I'm going to get that tattooed on my chest. All right. Next story we're doing is the person, the missing person I'm looking for no longer exists.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I actually think that's a really sick title. It's a good title. It's also, we have an author this time. So the author. There weren't they. they weren't they weren't I guess bullied or you know
Starting point is 00:23:45 felt embarrassed and deleted I'd say come back to us redacted I do I agree I agree with that so the author of this one their name is Raymond on their Reddit profile and their username is consequence level 7877
Starting point is 00:24:01 I will say that they created their account on June the 8th and then they made this post and never done anything else again. Okay. What the hell is what the author's
Starting point is 00:24:16 writing stuff here on our deal? It's like, I feel like we have a, we have a bunch of authors that are just serial killers that are like, this is it, this is the only little, this is like the only thing that you'll know of me is this thing right here. I don't want to be no. This is my pin name.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Their Reddit accounts cute though. They have like a little getting pig thing. So maybe, maybe they're not a serial killer. Who knows? But this is the only thing they've ever posted um so i guess this will determine everything about them this is our only understanding of them as a person so consequence level 7877 hopefully you had no loss of innocence and hopefully the story is good isaiah let's run it let's run it all right the missing person i'm looking for no longer exists i'm an investigator working on a contract to contract basis in the pacific northwest of the United States. Around four months ago, a string of house fires spring up across Oregon.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Initially, I had no involvement in the investigations revolving around these fires. I'd kept up with information about them to have on file for future contracts. Otherwise, all I knew up until a few weeks ago was that there were rumors of a serial arsonist because the points of origin of the fires were fairly unusual. Three weeks ago, however, I was contacted by both local police department and a private client to participate in the investigation of a missing person's case. Now, usually, I would not post information about a client publicly. But due to the nature of what I'm about to explain, I don't think it matters at this point. The missing person in question is a 29-year-old female named Millie.
Starting point is 00:25:56 From the documentation and summaries given to me by my client and the police, she was born and raised in Oregon. Has an interest in classics, works for a number of historical education foundations, and is not someone who would be suspected of disappearing without warning. All this information was true and verifiable until yesterday morning. To be totally honest, I am completely lost on what to do. Situation goes beyond anything I've ever experienced in my life before, let alone as an investigator. The following is my recount of the events leading up to today.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Any advice is appreciated. Three weeks back when I first was contacted by my client, who was a close relation to Millie, I was told that she had not contacted any of her family in almost a month. This was apparently highly unusual for her. When visiting her home, nobody answered the door. Her car was still on the driveway, but all the blinds of the windows were shut and the doors were all locked. I initially approached this contract somewhat casually,
Starting point is 00:26:54 since a lot of these cases end up being misunderstandings or runaway spouses. Then, about a week later, I got a call from a local police department. Apparently, a fire has started in another home. This was no issue for the department or for their arson investigators. What was a problem was the fact that all of the previous homeowners had been reported as missing many months prior in this case was no different. This information was withheld from the public to stop any potential suspects from going into hiding. As it so happens, the missing person in both of my client's case and the arson investigation was none other than Millie. Investigators had already been assigned to the previous missing.
Starting point is 00:27:32 person's case, so they needed to outsource this one in order to keep diligent on the others. I had previously worked with the police department, so I suppose I was the first on their list of investigators. I was given briefs on her background, missing person reports, family relations, etc., which was far more information than I had gone from my other client. In a week prior to the police contact me, I had found almost nothing that could be considered a lead. So I was very thankful to have data to work with. Previously, I didn't have access to her home and a record, and since she barely had an online presence, I was unable to track down information about her other than through her friends and family. The only other information
Starting point is 00:28:10 I was able to gather was by contacting the educational foundations and museums she'd been working with. All of them said they hadn't heard from her in almost two months. I was brought in to investigate the house fire along with the arson team the day after I was contacted. The team had already swept over the house the day of the fire, but we're returning to explain the strange nature of this case and assist me in whatever way they could. It was explained to me that the point of the origin of the fire was around the fireplace. This would have been normal enough if it weren't for the fact that the fireplace itself and the carpet around it were completely untouched. The fire started around the fireplace, especially focused on the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Not only that, but the carpeted floor of the living room was unaffected, other than being covered from the ash that had fallen from the surrounding walls and the ceiling. It was a zone incredibly hot flame have been floating in mid-air just above the floor. Entering the home, this is exactly what it looked like. Clean, dark-red carpeted floor surrounded by pitch-black scorched walls and a half-burnt ceiling. Structural integrity of the home seemed to be intact enough to be safe to enter. There was a burnt couch, some chairs, tables, and a wall of burnt bookshelves that had toppled next to a fireplace. I took my time to look around the home. Starting with a second-story
Starting point is 00:29:25 bedroom. I tried to turn on a light, but the power had been shut off in case the problem stemmed from an electrical fire. When I tried to put up the window blinds to get light into the room, they wouldn't budge. Looking closely with a dim flashlight, the blinds of all the windows to the room had been nailed down to the wood of their window frames. Asked the arson team about this, and they said there's no concrete explanation as to why. It was across every window of the house. If she had been stalked, this might make sense, but that would likely not apply to the second-story windows. No history of mental instability or paranoia, this was fairly unusual. I checked the master bedroom and the bathrooms upstairs and got almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Everything looked fairly clean and like a relatively normal lived-in home. Even in the office, there was almost nothing unusual to find. I searched lightly for journals or documents that might assist in figuring out what happened, but much of the evidence had been taken in already. So I would need to request access to it. Back in the living room, I noticed that none of the burnt books had been moved. I checked with the arson team, who cleared me to look through the books scattered all around the fireplace among the toppled bookshelves. Many of the books were unreadable and reduced to a block of ash.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Thus, sifting through the pile directly in front of the fireplace, I came across one that was surprisingly intact. It was covered in ash, but quickly flipping through the pages, it was completely unburnt. I was ecstatic to see that it looked to be a journal of some kind. Usually I would turn this into evidence and request access to it after it had been gone over the core investigation. my other client had put high urgency on finding Millie, so I instead decided I would do some work with it at home and then turn it in as evidence the next time I came to Millie's property so I could bypass the weeks it might take to get access to it. I'll summarize my room-to-room search by saying I found absolutely nothing else in that home that could lead to any potential
Starting point is 00:31:13 avenues to explain her disappearance. The only thing got a place was to fire and the blinds being nailed shut. When asking, the department said her passport and more personal documents were all in a fireproof lockbox upstairs. Otherwise, all the potentially useful contents of her office were really just historical papers and drawings of ancient Greek architecture and mythology. It may seem like I am not being very thorough with this search for her, but I cannot stress enough how little information there was to go off of and trying to find her. She was a relatively private, family-oriented history buff, who lived by working minor
Starting point is 00:31:48 jobs with a large variety of non-profit historical foundations. I checked every source I could find. After getting a note light, I set the notebook on my desk, on top of a clean towel, set down to start reading it with gloves on. It was dark outside, so I had to turn on the nearby lamp. Since I was going to be turning the book in, I was hoping to avoid any of my own potentially traceable DNA or fingerprints getting anywhere on the book. The front of the journal was a rough red fabric that, top of being covered with ash, looked pretty tattered. at first glance it looked like the bottom right corner that parts of the hard back shell have been burnt like the other books
Starting point is 00:32:24 but feeling them I realized they simply have been covered with bits of dark smoky black ash that had worked its way in between the fibers of the cover for one if he brought this thing all the way back to his house he's got so much DNA there is no way yeah there he is a hundred percent getting asked a bunch of questions by the police no question
Starting point is 00:32:46 yeah why would you remove that uh it's my job i wanted to know i needed to also contact hades just as she had and get sucked through the fireplace portal the spine of the book had 15 indented black notches that looked like
Starting point is 00:33:08 hash marks equally spaced from top of the spine to the bottom opening it some pages had stuck together for moisture and weathering and needed to be carefully pulled apart. The paper was old and very coarse. Yellowing had spread over the corners of the inner hardcover. In the bottom left, there also seemed to be an egg-sized, deep reddish black blotch. I initially thought someone must have spilled ink on the cover. Upon closer inspection, sprawling pattern of lines inside the inky mark seemed more like fingerprint of a giant. I remember
Starting point is 00:33:39 exclaiming, what? In confusion, it was very clearly a fingerprint of some kind, but it was truly about the size of an egg. I thought somebody had to have made a stamp of their fingerprint as a clever way to sign personal items without giving their identity away to the average person if it was found. Unfortunately, Millie had no fingerprint on file, even with international travel, so I couldn't compare to see if it was hers. This piqued a sort of morbid curiosity in me. Journals are personal, but that was going a step beyond. I had to understand why someone, especially if it was Millie, would go to such links to hide their identity for a journal. It could even help explain her disappearance.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Turning to the next page, it was hard to avoid ripping the paper when trying to get the two pieces unstuck from each other. The first page surprised me. It was filled with a wall of text in a language I did not recognize. Some letters looked familiar, but slightly off when compared to English counterparts. Wise and O's, with strikes through them neatly written and what looked to be charcoal were sprawled across the page. Seeing as Milliet associated, with classical studies, I had to assume it was some alternate Greek alphabet that I obviously could not read. This continued in a few pages until it suddenly cut off midway through on the left side of the third page. On the right-hand page, there looked to be only two words written.
Starting point is 00:35:02 One was neatly put in the top left corner and was written in ink, and the other was off the side written in some charcoal as before. The pages following were written semi-spiratically. Some had what looked to be full sentences, others had one word in large letters, the writings alternated between the ink and the charcoal, but both looked to be in the same handwriting. After a while, flipping through, came across a set of pages that were drawings of scenes. These were written in charcoal and had been so badly smudged that I could not tell what they'd picked it. It looked like an interior of some kind, but all the details were smeared and smudged until incomprehensible.
Starting point is 00:35:38 The pages following the drawings were blank. Flipping through, I was scared. That was the end of my potential lead. My fears were quelled when after about 10 pages of flipping I came across more writing. It was the same script, but looked like a new author, as the writing was smaller and softer than the previous text. Flipping through this was similar. Blocks of text, diminishing into smaller text, eventually leading to smudged images and charcoal. I continue to flip through these pages looking for any semblance of recognizable language until I eventually came across something different. This page looked to be in a new language.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Something closer to French, written in ink. Some words were slightly recognizable. Comment and what looked like approacher were the two that I could more directly pick up on, but most of it I could not make any sense of. Same pattern came up again. Wall of text, short sentences, and some charcoal drawings. I wish I'd stopped there. If I'd stopped there, everything would have been fine.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Turning pages and attempting to decipher yielded no better understanding. There was until I turned to a new, blank section. Living through, I was again worried I'd come to the end of this fascinating and potentially useful book. I saw Blanche of ink in between the pages I'd flip through, which I quickly turned back to. The top left corner, the right-hand page, there was a clear as-day English word. Hello? Sort of shocked my brain back into what I was doing. Up until this point, nothing had been decipherable, though it didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong. Reading that one word may we realize I could be doing something I shouldn't be. This was someone's private property,
Starting point is 00:37:17 someone missing, unless. My brain had to come up with reasons to keep reading. Even though I might be prying into something that could have been of little use to the case that came from a crime scene. Maybe I find evidence and progress the missing person's case, or perhaps a family member might appreciate the memories within. The matter of the reason, I turned the page. Next page was not much more of both. Do you have a name? Okay, this is fun. Because the whole time it's like,
Starting point is 00:37:46 all right, where are we getting to with the writing? And clearly she was like interested in some kind of ancient religion or spell or something like that. But now we're seeing her interactions
Starting point is 00:37:56 like she was talking through the page. Yeah, I thought it was leading into like a necronomicon kind of thing. But yeah, it's cool. It's like this weird supernatural text
Starting point is 00:38:04 that she's like talking to spirits through or something. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. Also, all the old text, it's something that's, obviously been passed around for God knows how long. This book
Starting point is 00:38:15 he establishes it as a red cover. It's old. There's a thumbprint of something like a demon or like some ancient being passed it on and like several different people from different cultures have pushed this through each other. And her being a history major, she came across it somehow and tried it for herself.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That was interesting to me. Someone had written on this page, but not the text and it was a question, no less. Turning to the page, there was more text on the left page. nice to meet you and again the right hand page was blank the next oh that's cool it's like whatever answer it gave her it probably shows up yeah yeah that's neat the next page simply read unimportant something clicked to my head at that moment this wasn't a journal it was a sort of book
Starting point is 00:39:04 filled with a pre-planned half of a conversation with the previous owner it must have been passed down from person to person or left for more people to find. This would explain what I saw before, at least somewhat. Maybe they were all conversations between previous owners. This was incredibly unprofessional of me. I don't know what came over me. Something about this book was so intriguing up to this point that I wasn't really thinking about the situation I was in. That same morbid curiosity was brought about again. Potentially conversing with a missing person drove me to want to see what conversation might be in store if I followed along. Going back, I took my closest pin
Starting point is 00:39:42 next to the first English page I wrote, hello? I mean, you've got to be curious, right? You do, but it's just, God, like rule number. It's just like in movies when it's like, you know, someone is like, what is this weird language? Bala, cool, it's like, why, why read it? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:02 That guy should. Turning to the page next to the question about a name I wrote. Yes, my name is Isaac. I turned the page again My blood stood still for a moment As I read the response Nice to meet you Isaac So hold on
Starting point is 00:40:20 He wrote He's writing next to the person That previously wrote Well he's writing on your name Yeah he writes Yes my name is Isaac Yeah he's following along with the stuff before And now on the blank pages
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Starting point is 00:41:43 when you use code creepcast at checkout. That's 10% off your first bidet order at hellotushy.com with promo code, griefcast. Thank you to Tushy for sponsoring this episode. Now let's get back to the story. I sat there in stunned silence for a few minutes. Rereating the page, I tried to make sense of what had just happened. I tried to remember what I had read on that page previously.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It would have definitely noticed if it had said my name before. written there. But here it was, plain as day. I tried to explain it away as being me hastily reading over the pages. My heart pounding out of my chest. I wrote my own question.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Do you have a name? Turning the page. I remembered what it had said before, which was still written there. Unimportant. So it knew what he was going to say. No, no. That wasn't the previous owner.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I'm thinking that that was the previous question she wrote as well and it's been left there is what is what is what is what is what i believe it to be where she saw this thing what what's your name who are you and then the thing probably just put unimportant i see okay something about this made me slam the book shut even though i knew what was written there even though i had just read it moments ago i still wrote a question and had written the answer before i even knew i would ask it felt like my own thoughts had been peered into personal and violating way took a few minutes to calm down try to wrap
Starting point is 00:43:09 rationalize what was going on. Up until this point, I thought I'd been conversing with Millie. Even the handwriting looked comparable to notes I had seen written by her in her documentation. Nothing could explain what was happening other than me misremembering what was written. This was a rabbit hole I did not want to go down anymore. After sitting for a few moments, I decided I should just read on and stop being fried into something that could be rationally explained. It had to be rationally explained.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Isaac was already written there, and I'd missed it. In my hysteria, I had to have unconsciously responded to the answer I'd read on the next page. I opened the book again, flipped back to the page I left on. You idiot. Flipping forward to check the next page did nothing to help my paranoia. Where are you? Pushing past my anxiety, I wrote. Hello. Why is your name unimportant?
Starting point is 00:44:03 I flipped the next page. That's good. Where's Camille? This settled my stomach a little. This was entirely indirect and seemed completely disconnected from my question. I've been paranoid about nothing. I decided to keep moving with this. I don't know, Camille.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Who is she? Turning the page. The next was blank. This surprised me. I thought there would be something written with how this book had been filled up until now. So I turned again. How was your day been? At this point, I was feeling a little less anxious about everything.
Starting point is 00:44:35 This was a far simpler and more disconnected from the previous. contact. It was more along the lines of what I'd expect from a gimmick like this. So, I wrote. My day was fine. I'm an investigator. I found this journal on a burnt house earlier. Arson plus a missing person. A very unusual situation. Turning the page. I was puzzled for a moment. So you do know, Camille. Hmm. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Then I froze. My heart started pounding again. This time, it was pounding so hard it began to hurt. the weight behind that name felt like someone was pouring cement over every inch of my body on the next page i wrote a question milly turning the page i stumbled trying to get out of my chair away from the book written on the next page in the top left hand corner were the following words a very unusual situation so yeah now he's completely convinced that whatever this is on the other side the book is talking to him yeah that it or it's already written the answers, and he's asking the questions to whoever wrote in the book
Starting point is 00:45:41 knew he would ask in the future or something. Adrenaline surged through my body like I'd never experienced before. Nothing previously in my life, even remotely, compared to the confusion of the tread I felt in that moment. I could barely get air into my lungs. Reading just a few words of situation had become much bigger than I previously could have imagined. I thought long and hard about whether I should continue.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Other than what this book was, my first question was why I had not heard from anyone up until this point that Millie's name was actually Mill. Even in documents, her first name was recorded as Millie. Hence why I hadn't connected the dots the first time it came up. I was petrified. Every part of my body was screaming at me
Starting point is 00:46:20 to stop this and run. And yet something in the back of my psyche was screaming the opposite. That if I stopped, something horrible would happen. That I needed to approach this very cautiously and leave it very carefully. I sat back down and reread the sentence
Starting point is 00:46:36 a few more times, trying to convince myself there was a logical explanation. Unfortunately, this was more direct than any coincidence could explain. I began to run through the possible responses in my mind. Somehow I got the feeling that I needed to get back out of this unexpectedly present conversation in a way that did not let on anything about how I was feeling. Lightheaded, I wrote, Where are you from? Used in all my will to keep my hand from shaking.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Somewhere close. I don't like that. That is oddly threatening, isn't it? Yeah, somewhere close. It's a funner way than just being like, I'm here with you because that feels too, like somewhere close just feels so oddly threatening. It's like what do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Do you mean somewhere close like as opposed compared to Earth or as compared to my bedroom? It's just vague. It's just vague enough to be unsettling. this is a really fun concept an investigator finding a book that he's talking to effectively I also like we clown on stories sometimes
Starting point is 00:47:43 for like having their characters to be too dramatic in scenarios like I stood up I jumped I freaked out and stuff but I feel like with how grounded the story was and its intro of him being an investigator I feel like this is a logical
Starting point is 00:47:55 like him jumping up and like pushing himself against the wall and stuff I feel like that is a thing you would do if you realized a book was talking to you well there's a difference between overacting and simply acting the story has prepped up this thing now to where this story feels the character feels lived in and then now we're getting to like get these visual representations of his like physical state along with his mental state because it's one thing to just be like I was petrified but then to have it be able to explain a character like getting up and pacing around a room like you can hear his footsteps in your head as you're reading this you know those those things add to the story and the like kind of bravado and the tension that's happening you know because you need to you It's also patting it. Like it is, if it would be different, if it was back to back to back, all these different quotes.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But these little descriptors give us a nice breather between them. And they are, it's just building anticipation, which is really fun. Mm-hmm. Something about these words felt more threatening than before. What did Camille say to you before she left? If I could use this situation to help Millie somehow, then maybe something good come of everything going on. The wrong question. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's cool. I shuddered slightly. What did that mean? What constitutes a wrong question? I worried I'd make the same mistake if I asked. Between each response, I had to think deeply about the consequences of what I was asking. I thought it would make sense to ask something completely unrelated to anything that had been mentioned so far. What is the date today?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Flipping the page gave a response that ate away at my curiosity again. The next page was filled with what looked to be a series of shapes, to lines being made up of the same characters at the start of the book and the language I did not understand. Buddy, that's the wrong question. That's the wrong question. You ask a question and it's just like, yeah, if you fucking ask a question
Starting point is 00:49:49 and then the stupid-ass Pokemon that are like weird hieroglyphics, whatever start floating around, you know you're fucked, dude. Yeah, well, I better ask him something straight up and he just responds back with like, Unakalabagana. That's such a funny way to describe, like, non-Euclidean geometry.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like, oh, no, the Pokemon again. You know what you know which Pokemon I'm talking about? What the fuck were those called? Oregon. Is that what you're talking about? The one that's like made up shapes, the digital one. I thought you were just referring to, like, the demon was drawing in, like, un-understood hieroglyphics in, like, geometry.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And you're like, oh, yeah, the Pokemon. No, no, no, no. It's this. Look, here. I'm posting it in the, uh, I'll say it to you on, I don't know, I don't know Pokemon enough to know, but I remember when I was younger, these guys were in there. I'm saying these little motherfuckers. Oh, are those Pokemon?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah. The ones that are just shape, I mean, we'll show a picture, but I don't know what you call those. I don't know what they're fucking I see. That is, they do kind of look like that, don't they? Yeah. That's not a bad. That's not a bad guess. Uh, are they just called unknown?
Starting point is 00:51:01 They might just be called unknown. Uh-oh, that's the wrong question. Bad decision, Mark. Oh. You asked what's the day and it start? Because it's not going by like the Gregorian calendar or the Julian calendar or whatever. It's just like pulling you straight back from time. It was poorly sketched in charcoal.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And even if I could read the language, the characters were so smudge that it seemed unlikely to be legible. I don't understand whatever you wrote there. Could you write it in English? As long as I kept the conversation moving in a mundane direction, I figured I could end it after a while as though I had enjoyed the chat and had to go. Turning the page, I was slightly confused by the answer. Where are you from?
Starting point is 00:51:45 The question itself was fairly clear. The confusing part was that this response was in my handwriting. What? Weird. It's stealing his handwriting to be like, this is what you're supposed to ask. Is that what it's doing? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I decided to lie. Given whatever this was, any information about myself was definitely not in my best interest. I'm from Europe. What about you? And I realized I had just effectively asked the same question from earlier.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Seeing as asking these questions seemed to agitate it, my anxiety spiked immensely. Turning the page, my breath left my lungs. I know who you are. So earlier, he asked it,
Starting point is 00:52:29 where are you from? and it said somewhere near and he's like I don't like that so he tries to take it somewhere else then it like copy paste his question again where are you from and in responding to himself he accidentally once again says what about you
Starting point is 00:52:45 he asks once again where are you from basically and it responds with I know who you are again like a vaguely threatening answer do you think that it's like a version of himself you know what I mean like is the thing slowly become like not that it's become coming him, but could he be talking to an alternate reality version of himself or something
Starting point is 00:53:04 or something that's taking the shape of him? Like somewhere close to me is something. I think it's a this feels more like a demon or entity because it's historic, right? It's like some well sure, but I still. I still think something could be taking his likeness or something. The whole idea to that Millie is gone or something, it could. The handwriting thing threw me off of like it was in his handwriting. I don't know. Well, that's because that's the exact same thing. he asked earlier. So it's just like taking it and then her hating it on a page later. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 What little calm I had begun to experience in this situation immediately left me. Asking anything relating to whatever I was talking with seemed to bring about a sense that it did not want me digging any deeper. Maybe that's what happened to Millie. Maybe she asked too many questions about whatever this was. I decided not to respond to this. If I left it blank, maybe it would move on. Fortunately, it's very wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:58 on the next page there was not handwriting but rather a drawing charcoal sketch similar to the ones I'd seen earlier in the book this time it was not smudged like the others it was a clear sketch of a street lined with houses
Starting point is 00:54:14 turning the page again there was another sketch the sketch was just a single house not just any house though it was my house oh no in a panic I turned the page again.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The next sketch was a close-up of the right side of my front lawn where you could see my office window. Oh, God damn. The office I was in. I did not want to turn the page again. My mind was screaming at me to stop here. My body moved as though it were acting on its own.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I turned the page again. I screamed as I heard what sounded like something heavy and wet, hit the window behind me so hard. I'm surprised to class. blasted and shatter. I turned to the window. By the grace of God, I had my curtains shut. To call of my willpower to look away, but I turned back to the book.
Starting point is 00:55:08 This time, the sketch was from the perspective of just outside my office window. You could clearly see a crude drawing to me, turned towards the reader, as if looking over my shoulder at the window, something was there, and it could see me. I did not know what to do. At this point, I felt as though my sanity was leaving me. I quietly rolled out of my chair. Some deep, unrecognizable voice within my mind began to call me towards the window. Feeling wasn't just a pull. It was a lustful desire.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Like I had to go towards the window, as though it had some untold pleasure ready for me when I got there. I walked towards it slowly, each half of my brain, fighting the other so ably my head began to pound with an indescribable pain. I felt like my mind was going to be torn apart. As I got to the window, I sat there. The fear had gone strong enough that I was able to at least stop myself from opening the curtains. Now that I was right in front of the window, I could hear a faint, continuous hum coming from the glass, as though a steady tone was vibrating it. I could also feel a warmth like I never felt before.
Starting point is 00:56:19 The only thing I could compare it to would be a combination of, as if I had been embraced by my soulmate for the first time and simultaneously. simultaneously had scolding desert sand thrown across the front of my body, wherever the warmth touched, all at once. Pain brought me to my senses. I began to cry. I was so frightened. Tears running down my eyes, I backed away from the window. I backed up, not taking my eyes off it until I got back to my desk. I mustered up to courage, to look away, saw that the drawing had changed. It was the same in position, but it depicted me in front of the window, as I was just smoking. moments ago. I don't know what struck my instincts into action. But after a moment of contemplation, I took the left-hand page and turned back to the previous page. As I did so, I heard the hum
Starting point is 00:57:08 die away and the tingling, painful warmth fade. I dared not turn to look. Instead, I continued to turn back the pages. One by one, I watched the sketches zoom further from my house until I got to a page with text. It was not the page that was there originally. Where are you? This was written across both pages in large, sprawling charcoal text. At this point, I had determined that, by continuing, I would be in more danger than anything that could happen to me if I closed the book.
Starting point is 00:57:43 So I did just that. I closed it. Immediately the headache, anxiety, and adrenaline had been pumping through every vein in my body disappeared. My body relaxed as though it knew to just narrowly escape some unknown horror. I waited in my chair, silently, watching the windows and doors of my room for what I have to assume was ours, because by the time I left my room, it was light again outside. I very cautiously wrapped the book in the towel I had set under it earlier, headed
Starting point is 00:58:10 to my front door. After stepping outside, nervously approached the window to my office to see what was there. On the window, there was what looked to be dried, dark, chunky blood, and burnt skin and left behind from whatever was pressed against it. It resembled the imprint of a face with skin hanging off of it pressed up against the glass. Saginem is shapen. Just thinking about what would have happened if I'd opened that window made me feel ill. I'd a shovel in my car already, which is an unfortunate necessity and more unsavory missing persons cases.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I drove for a very, very long time. Strangely, I encountered nothing strange the whole time. I drove from the town I was in to one of the deepest rural hikes I know in Oregon. I spent an hour digging a deep hole. I heart racing the entire time and I buried the book there. Now some of you might be wondering, why didn't just burn the book? I have a good reason. Under what circumstances had nearly gone missing?
Starting point is 00:59:09 What string of events preceded her disappearance? A string of fires and a string of disappearances. I believe I'm not the first one to have this experience. I fear that if I try to burn the book, I will become another missing person's case. I instead successfully buried that book somewhere nobody will ever find it. I do not plan on trying to remember where I chose. This wasn't already strange enough.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Just yesterday, some new information came to light. I tried continuing to find Millie, despite all that had happened. This is a human being we're talking about. I tried to set the past few weeks without involving myself any further. I just couldn't sit knowing she could be alive somewhere along with the rest of those people. So I decided to involve myself in the case again, even without the book, yesterday morning. And I called the police department, however, I was shocked to learn that nobody knew what I was talking about. There's no missing person's case.
Starting point is 01:00:04 In fact, there were no missing person cases at all. I told the fires had been in vacant houses and were determined to be electrical issues across the board. Even stranger still, I called the private client who was supposedly close family to Millie. They asked how I got in their number And even worse Stated that their younger sister Camille had died at a very young age From an illness
Starting point is 01:00:25 They went as far as to hang up on me When I tried to ask further I don't know what's going on If anyone has any advice, I'll take it I don't believe Millie died as a young girl And I believe she and others Might still be suffering somewhere out there Something about the warmth
Starting point is 01:00:40 Keeps replaying in my dreams The lust and pain I felt Just being near wherever that thing was at the window can only lead me to wonder what horrible experiences they might be going through right now like a twisted version of being drowned after following a siren's call
Starting point is 01:00:56 for now though I'm going to sleep I'm done with journals and I'm hoping I could put all of this behind me man bravo that was awesome that was great wow what a great what a great story
Starting point is 01:01:10 first off to well let's get into question time do you think that do you think that the whatever entity this was could that have been milly on the other side of some sort no i think what it is is there is a demon or some a she it said she was reading like old greek mythology so like some ancient demon or god or whatever that's tied to this book that you can communicate with there might actually i'm not that familiar with greek mythology there might be a like myth in greek tradition about like something you talk through through a book for all i know um
Starting point is 01:01:45 but whatever it was is something that people can communicate with by writing on the page and it gives them an answer and it eventually beckons them to it. Like he said, it was on the other side of the window and even though he was terrified, he felt drawn, he felt compelled to go open it. And if you do open it, I think it takes you away potentially or you just see the previous victim of it or something like that. And it erases you from history. that would also explain why all of the answers are like a race like in the same way everyone who's interacted with it's gone and there was a string of house fires so perhaps as he implies at the end people tried to burn it
Starting point is 01:02:24 and then instead everything around it burned besides the book and maybe the person burned with it um but it seems that whoever interacts with it is ripped out of history and that's why i don't know why we've got the name milly wrong maybe milly is like um what i thought that milly was the thing that was a part of well that was he said that was the name that was on the report yeah and then camille was the actual name but he's like i never thought to connect them because on the actual report milly was the one written
Starting point is 01:02:50 that's what you mean yeah i wonder what that can mean maybe milly is like the name the demon uses or something like that and it just picked him to be its next victim and then the reason he was asking about camille's camille was the last person in line who had the book um yeah he's speaking to some ancient entity i think camille is milly well it is but i'm saying like why would it use the name milly if every other instance it's names camille because he sees that like milly is the name of like oh this is the missing person but he says it's on all the official documentation but then after this experience with the books over they don't know a milly they know a camille it seems that milly was just an alias for some reason
Starting point is 01:03:29 that was written on everything oh yeah so i don't know where that connection comes from but the story did a lot of uh really good things one thing it did very well was i think it's set up a very fun, like, I like the idea of like an arson, like a guy basically trying to solve a mystery case into this weird arson, uh, basically like this weird arson case where he finds this book. It's very weird. He kind of takes it even though he shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And then he is tempted by it the same way that all the other victims have. It also does a good job by like, because in movies, people do dumb things because that's conflict and you need conflict for story. There is no conflict. There is no story. So that's why people do it. but I do think for like a Reddit post horror story where someone's like talking to us as if it's like an R slash no sleep it's fun that the guy uh rejects that like temptation at the end like it's it's a very satisfying thing for the character to be smart um but I think the most effective thing the story did was building anticipation uh in just so many great ways like pacing around it really took its time with all of the things because it it did it have it
Starting point is 01:04:39 like took had a new fun way of like basically combining like that fucking book and harry potter mixed with like a necronomicon like it kind of like had like it's a new fun take on that um onto this like kind of stereotypical trope of like evil book with you know ancient text in it that summons an evil spirit of some kind i think that it played with that really well but also too just like the subtlety of how it was you know the you know it didn't go overboard on like you know because the creature could have said something like yeah the creature the the thing could have like you know been saying all this horrible shit or like horrifying stuff but it was all very subtle and simple and that within itself somewhere nearby and that did it yeah it built that dread and then the charcoal
Starting point is 01:05:24 drawing uh was really fun too of like you like see these sketches being made of someone outside your house and stuff just a lot of fun like i really really enjoyed this one man and i think too great length like it wasn't too short it wasn't too long it was just this nice solid story and i lost a little of my innocence in it as well so i think that's fantastic okay i'm glad that you're still incorporating that title love loss of innocence love it that was awesome though we'll be sure like i said we have all the stories in the description of this as well but that was uh a fucking awesome that was very well done raymond come back you that was your only post ever keep doing Keep writing, Raymond.
Starting point is 01:06:06 We miss you. We need you. Consequence level 7-877. The next story is by only a blur, and it's called I've discovered a book that does not end. Two books stories. Two books stories. I'll also say, so go ahead. Let's say, to be fair, we did not know that the missing person story was going to be primarily a book story, but here we are.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yes, that was convenient. So the author, only a blur, goes by Brandon. and they seem to they post in our slash creepcast a lot we were there number two most listened to podcast last year I don't know why we weren't number one but that's okay I guess awkward what's the first
Starting point is 01:06:43 well to counter that the first is the official podcast with you know the gang so and number three was red thread which was the show I was on so yeah I don't know why creepcast and oh so he's a big
Starting point is 01:06:58 he's a big fan of yours then it seems yeah he also he bought our merch he bought the last creepcast drop according to this picture of him he posted our slash creepcast a lot so he seems to be a fan and he also posts our slash bojack horseman so you know peak recognized very cool very cool of you uh but so it seems he started writing this previous year so he started posting an r slash creep cast and then after that he started posting short stories he's posted a couple to no sleep uh and our slash horror stories uh one called the regular at my won't stop coming in.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And he also posted that one to Creepcast as well. That one seems to be doing well. But the one we're reading, I discovered a book that does not end. It seems he posted to No Sleep, and then it got taken off of No Sleep. So classic No Sleep Passion. So we are going to be reading.
Starting point is 01:07:52 So after that one got to lead from No Sleep, he then posted his stories over to R slash Creepcast. And so now the story we're reading today was taken off of No Sleep, probably because it, you know, doesn't. It gives like the full name of a fictional character or something like that. But yes, posted by Brandon only a month ago. So it seems that he's got a thing for writing, getting into it. So hopefully this is good.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And we don't make too much fun of it. And you continue writing. I love it. Nice new author. Let's see what he has here, dude. Also, I want to say that I like the name of the title. It's a nice hook. So let's see if the hook has a little bit of bait on it for daddy.
Starting point is 01:08:30 well i didn't like the way that you were i didn't know i i didn't like it it was unpleasant after i think calling fans of the show or referring to yourself as daddy when talking to them well i meant okay that that was a bit i didn't mean to that was a bit of an overstep i'm sorry okay well as long as you know that all right i've discovered a book that does not in by brandon also known as only a blur most of my life i have been considered a bookworm by the people around me in my life. Always loved reading ever since my 11th grade English teacher assigned us to read Blood Meridian
Starting point is 01:09:06 by Cormick McCarthy. Okay. All right. Well, I feel like I'm... All right. I wonder if he's a fan of yours. Well, I've talked multiple times that my 11th grade English teacher assigned the road by Cormick McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Did you see the... I did give him that story multiple times. And I know for a fact that English teacher was not assigning blood muridding. and that's for sure. I like the, I saw you responded to that tweet that was like, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:38 it's not that I dislike Windygoon, but I hate that this character is like a creepy, like he's like a, what is it, a creepy posth character. He's like a creepy person. Judge Hold on whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 As if, as if that's your fault in it's like in any way or whatever. So that's kind of a, not to go on too much of a tangent, but. I almost see both sides of it because has there ever been something you've been really nicheally interested in that gets popular really quick and the tone around it kind of changes, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah. Well, I think like to be fair, you, because you used that image, right? That's like that that was kind of a popular image, but I just think that it's just the image of Judge Holden, you mean? Like that picture of him. Yeah, I use that in the video. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:26 So like that's just, that's also just a prime main. meme kind of image you know what I mean like it almost yeah I don't know like you have an image like that it's going to take shape and it's going to like breed new life especially because you're video I mean that's a good one too
Starting point is 01:10:39 so like that's it's less about even people understanding and more so that it's just a great simple image that you can like kind of repurpose because it's not that it's too detailed you can kind of like redraw it you know it's almost like fucking when what is it pepe the frog got taken over
Starting point is 01:10:55 yeah it just evolves and transforms into whatever the fuck people are going to run with it, you know. Yeah. And I think, I think there's a, there's a balance with it because like for judge Holden's a good example. So a lot of people may be seen that image before and stuff like that, but they hadn't, and maybe they heard a Blood Meridian, but they weren't familiar with the story. They weren't familiar with the concepts. And I read the book, really liked it, wanted to talk about it. So I talk about it and I don't think I'm the sole reason that Blood Meridian got more
Starting point is 01:11:21 popular online. I think Corbett McCarthy's death also led to a bunch of people checking it out and stuff like that. But I certainly was a piece in the podcast. a blood-ridden, gaining popularity. And, or at least in online spaces, it was obviously a popular book beforehand. Just a lot of, you know, younger audiences weren't familiar with it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And I think when that happened, a lot of people kind of started to perceive it the way they do other stories, like, oh, creepy character, heavy, intense moments, all the, you know, kind of like, dramatic, bloody moments the book and they started to kind of not dumb down but summarize a lot of judge holden's actions as big scary evil man in the old west right and versus because of that representation of you know
Starting point is 01:12:14 greed and all the other kind of yeah yeah because when you read blood meridian it's almost like judge holden is a spirit of sort i mean obviously he's real in the book but the way it's described is you have this bloody gang of like headhunters and there's this one figure in them that completely stands in contrast of everything else in the desert like there are all these the book goes to great links to describe how hairy
Starting point is 01:12:37 and like dirty the guys are but he's pristine and hairless towering above the rest of them it's almost like having the grim reaper in camp with you and a lot of the symbolism around him's drawn from like Lucifer and like figures of death and Greek mythology and stuff like that so
Starting point is 01:12:53 he's almost otherworldly like he's too terrible to exist and when you distill that character down to creepy scary man who you know is like a pedophile or whatever you lose a lot of the weight of what that character is yeah and I understand that
Starting point is 01:13:12 by me making the video it became more popular so people start to talk about that's frustrating and that's fair criticism but some people take that further and say that my presentation or the way I talked about Judge Holden was the dumbing it down, and I disagree with that. I think in a lot of my stuff,
Starting point is 01:13:29 or like in that video, I talked at length about the stuff I just said about his determination of being evil. But also, like, kind of the greater cultural context surrounding it. Like I saw one, not to just like one, get one guide, but I saw one person talking about my stuff,
Starting point is 01:13:48 and it's like, well, I don't think Wendy Goon did a good job talking about like how the story is a big piece about like the evils that were done to natives in, uh, you know, during this time in history. But I talk in my video that if Judge Holden is like this agent of death or if he's the devil himself, then he has seated himself in the most violent place on earth, which is the headhuners of the early American West. And I think in that statement, like I feel like in my video presentation, I did an honest effort at making Judge Holden the personification of him legitimate
Starting point is 01:14:20 to the way he is in the book. And if people took that and dumped it down, I, I understand the frustration, but also in the most careful way I can say this, it's not my fault that people, you know, took the, took the character and then made it into sort of a meme or something like that. But at the same time, I understand being upset that because of my video, the character got dumbed down, if that makes sense. This has nothing to do with the video or the podcast or anything. I just thoughts have been in my head. I haven't had a place to talk about them yet. No, no, no. I think that it's justifiable. Also, at the same time you made a video about a subject you're passionate about I think you did a good job covering it the video also went
Starting point is 01:14:59 stupid viral and you're going to have people that saw that who share that interest as well across the internet and it gets filtered time and time again through these conversations to where there probably are people who use that image or imagery or do whatever and have no idea where it comes from you know that's just that's just also meme culture that's just the way that shit evolves and stuff like that it is what it is I do think though that like the descriptors of death. Because every time that I saw the original painting of it
Starting point is 01:15:26 always made me think of the Grim Reaper from a seventh seal. Yeah, he didn't. Yeah. Just that kind of like, you know, just the pale face kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:15:33 But anyways, it's just prime also because it's perfect for that meme edit of like creepy, weird smile. It's kind of funny. Yeah. But it's also unsettling and odd,
Starting point is 01:15:43 you know, it's simple and it's like lowbrow in its approach. It's a fucking awesome painting. It just rules. So yeah, I don't know. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I just thought it was funny. You know, or I just thought it's, it's, it's always interesting the conversations people, uh, bring up in the discourse that it causes. It's, it's always, uh, it's interesting what people decide to, uh, I guess talk about or, you know, some people get, I, I, I say I'm set, but who knows. I mean, it's over text, but it's just something where it's like, I, I, who, who cares? I don't know. I just, I think, I mean, like, I, I agree with you for the most part, you know, the who cares thing. But I, but I, I, I, I also understand having like it honestly after seeing like the judge get done down to you know as the tweet said creepy posse characters that is frustrating that does annoy me because i think he's so much more than the story i think he represents so of course but at the same time i'm not going to stop covering stuff like that because for one i'm passionate about it i enjoy stories and i enjoy when they're done well talking about how they're done well but also because i feel like one of the biggest issues that cause characters like that to be perceived in a dumb down way is because we often
Starting point is 01:16:56 just hand people dumb down stories, right? Like I, not just you two, but in like, you know, the way kids are talked to in school, in high school and stuff like that. They're, they're given the most milk toast interpretation of things. They're not really encouraged to dig into art. One of the reasons I love stories so much is, as this guy referenced in my, in the 11th grade, my English teacher taught us the road and he taught it with passion. And I heard that. I was like, I want to learn more stories like that. So at the same time when, you know, people take the judge and then they kind of dumb it down,
Starting point is 01:17:26 we have this guy who started writing short stories after he read R slash creepcast. And he makes a reference to Blood Meridian in there. And now he's writing his own story. So for every negative way people interpret stories or take them and then spread them across their internet, there's other people who hear it, learn about it, and then are impressed to go about with their own things.
Starting point is 01:17:47 so yeah i don't regret making that video to any regard because for any amount of damage it did a bunch of people learned about blood meridian that they learned about the judge in earnest and i think that's i think that's invaluable to teach people i don't sorry not teach to help show people about art and about what's out there i don't think that i don't think that there's any real damage to have also to say to who cares that's a misrepresentation of i that's not the correct thing to say what I said. I think more so what I mean is it's it's unavoidable to try and you know, to try and please everybody. You can't do it. You know what I mean? And also it would be different too if the video was was Judge Holton the first creepy. Was he the first SEP? That's that's something that's
Starting point is 01:18:36 different. You know what I mean? Because then you're also completely lambasting the character. I guess that's what I mean is like if somebody you just you can't help it. It is what it is. Yeah. You know, also, too, I think people go in with things. And I think that people go in guns blazing because they're just like, it's also very much. That's also why I mean, keep this or not. I fucking hate Twitter because it's nothing but hive mind, quote, tweet, bullshit, where there's no, there's no discussion.
Starting point is 01:19:05 It's people just being like, I'm pissed. Are you pissed too? And it's that. You know, so it is. Yeah. Anyways, we have a story. Yeah, we have a story. Sorry, didn't mean to get so sidetracked with it.
Starting point is 01:19:15 But, you know, I think it's fascinating here. It comes from that person because a lot of things that you do, do have a cultural online impact and stuff. And I do think that, like, you know, if there's one thing that's to be said, even with these fan made stories, is getting people excited about things and having interest and stuff. So much of what people decide to do with their time is be pissed off or demean shit, which I'm no better, you know, I definitely him a fucking little annoying rat when it comes to things. But all you can do is be excited about stuff and try to. contribute back in some meaningful way. And that's like the best thing. Yeah. Most positive thing you can do with your time versus dwelling on why things are
Starting point is 01:19:53 different or popular for some reason. You know, it's just like if you just don't like something, move on. And if you love something, contribute to it and like try to be a part of the conversation. Yeah. Yeah, that's well said. And I think like, um, I think like this guy here, this is really encouraging. Because you know, you tell a hundred people about something, uh, 50 people are going to take it the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:20:16 50 people take it the right way. I think it's worth telling 100 for the 50 that take it the right way is my outlook. But like we got this guy here, only a blur, Brandon. I scrolled through because I was trying to find, you know, what all he's written. He's had a Reddit account for years. And then he's never posted any stories he's written. And then he starts posting an R slash creepcast. And then he writes two stories in the past couple of months.
Starting point is 01:20:40 To me, that is worth a hundred. people dumbing down a character, right? That maybe this one guy started listening to the podcast or listening to our channels and was like, I want to start telling stories. That's worth all the other junk that comes with it, right? That's encouraging. It's really cool to see. And then in the first part, there's what I assumed to be kind of a reference towards
Starting point is 01:21:05 myself. That means a lot. Makes me feel good. Makes me feel good. I'm glad, man. So anyway, with the story. Do you just want to start for the top? Yeah, yeah, I'll just start from the top.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Most of my life, I've been considered a bookworm by the people around me in my life. I've always loved reading ever since my 11th grade English teacher assigned us to read Blood Meridian by Cormick McCarthy. That novel opened my eyes, not only how powerful stories are in their impact on human emotion, but also the depravity of human beings, their unrelenting nature. After an experience like that, I was hooked. I would search through bookstores, libraries, garage, and estate cells. Wherever there was a book to be found, I was at the foreground. Once I had exhausted all of those means to find new and exciting reads, I entered to the internet. I have a fascination with banned and lost books.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Something about the mystery surrounding them excites me and makes me want to consume them. About three months ago, I came across a listing on some secondhand book website for a novel titled, World's History from Beginning to End. This immediately piqued my interest because I noticed there was no author listed, which is not unusual when authors want to remain anonymous. What made it strange was that there was no publisher or identity of anybody that made this book. It was also very difficult to tell exactly what time period this book was from. The hardcover looked as if it was almost brand new, as it was just pulled off the printing press.
Starting point is 01:22:25 The pages, on the other hand, looked like they were made of papyrus, which hasn't been used to make books in centuries. I figured I must have stumbled upon a piece of lost media that I could hopefully use to impress the other eccentric I knew online. I messaged the Lister immediately, asking if it was still available for sale. They responded about 10 minutes later with a location pin about 250 miles away from where I was. I asked if we could meet halfway, but they just sent the same pen. Knowing how these sellers usually are, they won't budge when they have a meeting place set in stone.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Picking up the book was uneventful, drove to the guy's place, parked right outside, his modest middle class home in the suburbs, sent him a message, letting him know I was there. he sent it back saying the book was in the mailbox and I have to leave the money in there aside from feeling like I was buying weed in high school again I didn't have any off feelings about the interaction when I got home it was nearly 1130 at night and I put the book on my nightstand that fell asleep once I woke up the next morning the first thing I did was crack that book open and began reading the novel was not as long as I had imagined for a full history of the world only about 800 pages from looking at it the first chapter opened up on a a singularity in a vastless space of emptiness seeking growth.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Over the next 50 pages, it discussed the beginning of our universe through the Big Bang. The second chapter was around 30 pages and talked about how organisms began to attach themselves to Earth, creating a multitude of different species. After a few more chapters, I learned about the dinosaurs, evolution of man, the stone ages, and evolution of tools, development and language, art, culture. now I was about 600 pages in we have not even broken into the first empires of the world at the 10th chapter and about 720 pages into the book it finally began discussing the start of civilization in Mesopotamia
Starting point is 01:24:16 once I read through that I was nearly at the end of the novel with only an initial history of the world I thought the book might be part of a series but since I couldn't even find a trace of this book anywhere I doubt I'd find others the final page of the novel was on page 8303 17, edited with the chapter talking about the rise of the Babylonian Empire. As I flipped the final page to see the back cover, I was surprised to see a new page,
Starting point is 01:24:43 a new chapter title on it, Persian and Roman Empires. I was shocked that they would add just one page of another chapter at the end of the book, but I read it anyway. As I flipped that page, another one was after it. I swear I did not see or feel another page on the other side of the one I just read. This kept going for the next 11 hours. Every time I would flip a page, new one would be there in its place to continue the story. Although the book seemed to go on indefinitely, the size of the book never changed.
Starting point is 01:25:17 After all that time, I had made it to around the year 1997 with the death of Princess Diana. It was nearly 3 in the morning at this point, and I had to process to some degree when I was experiencing, so I did my best to go to sleep. All night, I could not stop. I'm thinking about the seemingly unending book. Is it an optical illusion? So I somehow miscounting the pages. I had to figure out what was going on. That's funny to imagine a guy who like,
Starting point is 01:25:43 he's literally at the back of the book and new pages keep coming. And he's like, oh, must have missed that one. Yeah. It's very like goose bumpy, isn't it? It's just like this thing of also the compelling nature of being like, well, I guess I'll just keep reading. Because it is an anomaly. You know, it is like, because the size of the book never changed.
Starting point is 01:26:02 but yet you still keep flipping and there's more pages. That would be such a weird mind fuck, but it almost seems like he's like hypnotized in some weird way to keep reading and keep continuing into this like weird fucking never-ending book. Yeah, yeah. It's also threatening how it's like beginning to end.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I waited for the sun to rise before I began reading again. Every new chapter at this point spanned over 100 pages each and only depicted about six months to a year, of history at a time. After another nine hours of reading, I made it to modern day. They were discussing various airplane crashes that happened in D.C., Philadelphia, and Scottsdale. I read about the death of my favorite director, David Lynch, and all the other major events that have happened so far this year. I don't know how a book can be published mere hours after these events were being
Starting point is 01:26:53 discussed. I kept turning the pages. It kept reading when I realized it had listed an event that happened yesterday. This is impossible since I bought the book two days ago. I could possibly have any been in it that happened yesterday. My curiosity peaked, I kept reading. The novel continued into how the rest of the year will play out. I figured whoever wrote it had a bountiful imagination to insert their own predictions into a book about world history.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Once I wrapped up the 20-25 years, I decided it was a good time to go to bed, so I did. I must not have slept much in the last. couple of days because I had slept through the entirety of the next one. I woke up 32 hours later in my bed. I did my usual morning routine of going to the bathroom, brushing my teeth, shower, shave, make breakfast, put on the news. I found out I was sleeping through a whole day when I saw the date on the news. The story they were showing was about a sex scandal that happened with a very prolific celebrity. I felt a sense of deja vu come over me because I felt like I heard about that before. I figured maybe I dreamed it or maybe I saw an article minutes after the scandal dropped.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I know that was wishful thinking because for the two days prior to my sleep, the only media I consumed was that book. I went to my nightstand and picked up the book, but we did the end to find the chapter on this year. Just as I thought, there was a page that discussed the very same celebrity in the sex scandal with every single detail painfully accurate. The book even discussed details that were not present in any news footage or article. online. The book had a police evidence-like description of the crime and gave way to information a regular civilian should not have access to. I've been a Christian all my life and believe that this book is divine. It has access to information that no person has any right to know.
Starting point is 01:28:44 I wish I didn't know it myself, but it is the curse I bestowed upon myself. Whether this book is from God or the devil, I do not know, but I wish I had the willpower to stop myself from reading after I found it's a prophecy. Once I began reading it, I also like that, because normally it'd be like, oh, this book's like evil or like this is some forbidden knowledge
Starting point is 01:29:05 or whatever, but it's just like, I think this is divine. Like he's immediately, he's not getting it away. Yeah, like I have to treasure this thing. It's beautiful, yeah. Once I began reading for the rest of the decade, I became more and more frightened
Starting point is 01:29:18 about what I was going to learn. In the year 2027, it said there'd be an event that altered the course of human history. This was the popularization of easily accessible bio-weapons and underground markets. Many private terrorist organizations, drug cartels, and even individual criminals, hoarded as much as they could to either threaten or dispose of individuals or large groups of people. One of the first attacks used was on the White House. For the federal agents watching, this is a joke.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I do not agree with the statements that are made. One of the first attacks used was on the White House. A disgruntled voter had gained access to a lung cancer synthetic. The attacker mailed 30 small samples on different days in envelopes that would carry the disease airborne when opened. Six months later, nearly half the White House staff, including the president, were either infected or had passed away from lung cancer. Other groups would have different tactics, like in 2029 when a domestic terrorist organization took a crop duster filled with a synthetic HIV virus and fluid over San Francisco as a homophobic attack. Or in 2032, when we see the largest death toll from any bioweapon ever made. Russia began experimenting with the new synthetic disease that would almost immediately kill the person affected by it.
Starting point is 01:30:30 They call it Smertzvarku. Smertsavirku, I'm sorry, and it was used to fill the heads of atomic missiles to eviscerate the remaining people who survived after bombs were dropped. Russia launched three missiles towards Ukraine, but had not tested the scale of the airborne illness. They had three different cities in Ukraine and wiped out every person in each one along with the rest of the country. Russia had not foreseen that the virus would spread so wide, wide enough to destroy every person in the southern region of both Belarus and Russia. I became obsessed with this book. It encumbered every waking moment of my being. I learned all about the future that our world and universe has to offer.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I had to keep reading and understand what will happen within my lifetime and beyond. I wish I'd just put the book down. Soon after Russia held an accidental extinction of a country, the entire world fell into an arms race to see, who had the most powerful and destructive bioweapon. The three countries with the largest quantity
Starting point is 01:31:27 and highest mortality rate were going from third to first, Russia, America, and Ireland. Ireland posed a major threat to the rest of the world because it owned as many bioweapons as both America and Russia combined.
Starting point is 01:31:40 The countries entered to a stalemate to see who would act first. That's really funny to imagine Ireland. I'm like, I'm like, fuck in the Ireland? Really?
Starting point is 01:31:50 Don't you dare fucking Don't mess with us man for real I'm totally serious I don't want you to mess with me We have all the weapons of master structure I've got the weapon I'll send it I'll do it in a moment's notice
Starting point is 01:32:04 I've got the weapon I'll send it I'll fuck you off with it All right I'll put it in a car bomb You'll see You see me right here I'll tell you something right now I we have all We have all of the bio weapons
Starting point is 01:32:19 I tell you that much so funny to think Ireland would have that your darn tootin America were ones to send the official declaration of war after a high-ranking official was assassinated by an individual who was a part of the Irish radical party
Starting point is 01:32:36 they dropped bombs filled with large amounts of radiation on top of Ireland's government bases little did they know an America's declaration would also be its end the bombs were targeted at where the highest concentration of Ireland's bio-webush were to eliminate them from the arms race entirely.
Starting point is 01:32:53 The outcome of that decision was a worldwide spread of almost every type of disease known to mankind. Even diseases that were thought to be extinct were brought into the light of day. The black plague, smallpox, and even guinea worm disease. Millions were killed upon the initial destruction, followed by nearly the rest of the human population within the next 12 hours. Months and years go by without anything eventful taking place, just small segments for each chapter discussing, how the terrain of the world was changed
Starting point is 01:33:22 and the various mutated creatures that rose because of it. After about three years worth of text, was there any event evolving a human occurring? Roughly 10,000 people across the world had a bomb shelter built in their home for the purpose of a global disaster. These individuals were the first to come to the surface after years
Starting point is 01:33:38 of no human involvement in their environment. Around 8,000 of these people died minutes after reaching the surface because the air still lingered with multitude of plagues. The other roughly 2,000 people that saw the one, that left the shelter and never returned. So they assumed what was true in that surface was still dangerous.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Many of them died in their shelter years later or until they ran out of nutrients. Few also ventured to the surface later to make a life for themselves, but with the same pain as their predecessors. The year 289 was last year that humans existed. After that, plant life and animals took over the world. The next 15 years, plant life grew rapidly due to their mutation. from the viruses. Except, instead of growing into a green oasis,
Starting point is 01:34:24 turned into a mix of deep crimson and brown plants that covered every surface it could latch onto. The animals that survived lurked around the earth and became extremely aggressive towards each other. This caused all life on earth besides botanical life to cease existence by the year 21 to 40. Centuries of text flows by in roughly 30 pages.
Starting point is 01:34:46 One thing that never got mentioned, even in the passing of the novel, was the presence of God. any god for that matter no religion was discussed beyond the crusades and other religious endeavors that did not directly involve faith this book that seemingly knows everything the world has to offer and no answers what would be the point of living about life free from sin and it won't aid be in peaceful afterlife i decide with whatever life i have left i want to live i want to live it like biff tannan from back to the future part two wow i do not want to think about any of the
Starting point is 01:35:18 knowledge I have consumed beyond what will give me a financial or spiritual gain. I have no faith left in humanity. I'll make the quickest buck that I can before the major bombs drop. After that, I'll build the most comfortable bomb shelter with enough supplies and entertainment to last me through the end of days. This post is not a warning on what's to come. That much is inevitable. I simply cannot be the only person who carries the burden of knowing what I have learned.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Well, there's the end of that story, and I'm sitting here with a fucking panic attack. feel so real with the kind of stuff going on in the world right now it feels so like i was just like this this all makes sense to me this all it's all it's all Ireland Ireland getting the weapons Ireland was the that's the most fabricated thing i've heard for sure but still i it's one of those the idea of like nuclear fallout just the kind of like a lot of like existential stuff coming in the end there you know a lot of stories could you know i i feel like this could have also been a story where it goes the direction of like, mom,
Starting point is 01:36:19 read me a bad time story. Okay. And she's reading the story and it gets more fucked up and she just like won't stop reading or something, you know? You could go so many different rounds
Starting point is 01:36:28 of that, but taking it into like that existential kind of, you know, knowledge of all the world and stuff is pretty cool. And I like the idea too of, that was one thing I thought
Starting point is 01:36:39 was kind of relatable at the beginning was you get into a book, you start collecting, you know, because I have a couple, like I like collecting old books and stuff too. And the idea,
Starting point is 01:36:46 too, that you just stumble across thing it has no author it's just kind of this like text and you just kind of keep flipping but it's like the morbid curiosity of having to know and like earth turns into like almost like a fallout kind of situation yeah all this kind of stuff but i love the idea that the two that the book doesn't get bigger it just he just kind of keeps turning the page to the last page the pages keep showing up yeah you know it's like a treadmill almost just keeps like cycling over also uh it's a fun idea that um at the end he's like well um yeah because early
Starting point is 01:37:17 he said he was a Christian. He's like this book that knows everything says nothing of God. So I guess there's no reason to live at all. So I'm going to make enough money to build a bomb shelter. And I guess I'll just live out my days and needless enjoyment
Starting point is 01:37:28 because the world's coming to an end. So it's like this prophecy has changed him. That's fascinating. That was a fun story. That was a fun little like the earth is going to end this way. So here's what I'm doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Very short sweet. I always get fucked up by like weird existential stuff like that to where like you're like I did not think, I did not think I wanted to, think about that today you know and that's what I feel like right now I'm like really kind of bum that I still have a lot of work I have to do and I'm like for what
Starting point is 01:37:55 for what why even do it it truly was a loss of innocence the reason you do it is so you can build your bunker and put a bunch of Nintendo Wii games down there for the end of the world if anybody comes across a neon sign that says loss of innocence no that's my bunker and you're totally welcome to stay
Starting point is 01:38:15 with me in the end of day namely in a bunker loss of innocence. It's like, well, I'm not going in there. Yeah, exactly. Well, see, that's the ultimate distraction. And then that way we're like, oh, no, that's actually super fucking cool. It's like, I'll just, I'll just get the plague. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I'll just keep walking. The nursing home at the edge of the world, this looks like part one. You said that part two got deleted, but we could at least read part one. So if you go to their page, so for one of the author of this is Phoenix Heat. And Phoenix Heat. seems to do some writing in for several years. He's done writing in R slash scary stories, R slash no sleep.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And then they dropped a veteran, a veteran of the genre. They posted part one, and then so they've been sitting on this for a few weeks now. They posted it in a no sleep, didn't know what to do. So they're like, I'll throw it up in creepcast.
Starting point is 01:39:08 But then for some reason, I don't know what happened. Okay, so they post that. And then they post part two. on R slash scary stories. And they posted R slash 2 on no sleep, but it got take it, wait. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:22 They post part two on our slash no sleep. I think no sleep took down all the parts. But then they posted part two on our slash creepcast, but then it got taken down off creepcast. I have no idea why. We're becoming no sleep already. We're becoming no sleep. Immediately no sleep.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Hey guys, upload here so we can delete your stories. Thanks. Upload here so we can also censor it and delete it. I have no idea why I got taken down but then they post and said that so they they posted this in reply to the June
Starting point is 01:39:53 fan made story thread and said they give a brief summary of the story and then says part one two and three uh wait parts one and two are out part three is already written I just need to reread it over for clarity one last time and it'll be posted soon and then that was posted
Starting point is 01:40:09 26 days ago I don't see they've posted part three anywhere so parts one and two are up and they posted both of those to our slash creepcast but we deleted the part two i guess i don't know why we're horrible people but the part two is up on our slash scary stories i think well why don't let's let's read let's read part one and then we'll fucking we'll be like hey submit it again and we'll have to talk to whoever the fucking mods are i don't know who the monster for this shit and they'll be like let the let the poor bastard post the second part yeah but then we see
Starting point is 01:40:45 we see that like part two goes up and it's like a direct threat on our lives it's like they said they listed your dress that that that will need to be made clear so you know all right but for now we'll get to the bottom of this for now but for part one for now let's at least touch part one of the nursing home at the edge of the world which i will say is a fun little title kind of as the same title it has the same vibe as like i worked at a voodoo shop or like tails from the gas station kind of vibe is the vibe I get it's very fun and also like we're going to leave link to it in the description so you can go check out part two and then three whenever they post it for yourself hopefully by then part two will be in the subreddit we'll figure that one out no promises no promises
Starting point is 01:41:28 no promises no promises nursing home at the edge of the world part one by phoenix oh heat a woman had long greasy hair that framed her crooked face the left half was pulled taut against her skull as if her skin was painted on to it it. The right half was sloped down one eye barely open, and the edge of her mouth unable to close. A small drop of saliva warmed its way down her chest, shifting from her side onto the bed she lay on. One of her hands was curled into an unnatural claw, reminiscent of a spider's legs long after its final moments. On this bed was the most beautiful woman in the world. God, does not seem like her.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Well, the next line is, my mother had her first stroke. seven years ago. So it's their mother. So now do you feel bad about saying my great my great grandma my great grandma had arthritis so bad that like her toes were all fucking they're all basically like capital L's and shit. You know what I mean? She's big ass fucking big ass marble knuckles and her hands were all like bent up as well
Starting point is 01:42:34 and she always go over and she's just like, how are you like that? And then she would like try to like pinch my cheeks and I was like I was repulsed was repulsed by her hands. I remember I'd go I'd be like hey okay and I'd like run to the bathroom and like wash my face it was just I don't know
Starting point is 01:42:49 it scared me it did she's like are you okay there I'm like I just got in here I was like okay yeah I'm fine okay
Starting point is 01:43:01 she watched happy Gilmore all the time it's all she watched what why were you repulse fire she had a disability her fucking hands man i'm a child or her hands are they were like seriously her fingers were crooked one was like basically like permanently over her other one and they were all like this and she
Starting point is 01:43:25 could barely grab stuff she'd say can't you hand me the spoon and said okay and then she would like hold it all weird and i felt bad i'm like do you want me to i you want me to do it for you she said oh please and i was feed her one time and she fucking fell asleep while i was feeding her and she was like not choking on the soup but it was in her mouth and she was like and I didn't know how to wake her up so like slapped her leg and she was like like that and freaked out in the soup and it doesn't matter whatever it was I was there was there any member of your family any elderly member of your family that you do not have a traumatic story or we're
Starting point is 01:44:10 terrified of. Plenty. Plenty. I had a lot of good grandparents. I had a couple weird ones. Sure. One that tried to kill you. That's not totally confirmed. But I will say the other one was literally, she just had arthritis.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Your mother, who was an adult at the time, said, I think he was trying to kill you. No, no. That's neither here or there. Most people do not. Well, look, I've let this. go too long. Most people do not have a grandfather that tried to
Starting point is 01:44:42 kill them. Okay? That's not normal at all. Hunting accident. And I will say that the great grandma she just literally had arthritis and scared me when I was younger. I was young. Young. And if you see that, you're going to be horrified. She was a nice enough lady.
Starting point is 01:44:58 How often do you hate people with disabilities like that? Okay. Don't hate her. Once again, young and frightened. Scared, horrified, really, to completely fair i would look at my i would look at my hands in the bathroom and stuff and i would just like i would sit there and like i would like squeeze my fingers and stuff to make sure that they were like i'm like i asked my dad too i was like my hands aren't going to end up like that and he's
Starting point is 01:45:23 like i don't probably what is he told me what uh okay so would you say you were repulsed by her then no i was that well yes but it was just because i was afraid i was afraid okay so how how often are you repulsed by people with disabilities? Almost never. Because honestly, and I'll tell you something right now, because everyone's God's little angel. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:51 As long as that's on the record, I guess. Anyway. My mother had her first stroke seven years ago. Just last week, she had her 32nd. I still remember the weeks after her first stroke. I was in college in New York and didn't have a car. I spent almost all of my savings going from taxi to taxi to see her just for her to get angry at me for wasting my money
Starting point is 01:46:14 Nothing in heaven or hell Surely nothing in between Stop her from seeing me graduate She told me that And promptly sent me back to school Pay for my trip out of her own pockets Back then she still seemed so strong If the stroke had affected her
Starting point is 01:46:30 She didn't let me see it As the years went on I watched her deteriorate Both body and mind By the third stroke She could barely use one of her hands. She began to forget what she was saying partway through her sentences. By the fifth stroke, she could no longer walk, and every word took a great strain on her mind. When my graduation came, she was still alive.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Five strokes were more than enough to kill someone. I knew that. But my mother defied all odds and held on for me. Both my grandparents and one of my aunts were there with me during the graduation. There was an atmosphere of discomfort in the air, but I didn't care. made the most of it with my mother. After her 10th stroke, she didn't seem to remember much of that day.
Starting point is 01:47:14 But that was okay. I showed her the photos, and without fail, they brought a smile to her face. But day by day, month by month, smile was fainer and fainer. I was sitting in her nursing home room, trying to decide which movie she would want to watch.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I held up an old cartoon I used to watch with my brother in the hospital and asked her if she wanted to watch it. her lips did it move much took it as a yes i put the movie into the old Xbox I gave her to use the DVD player she had a whole stack of DVDs even taller than I was
Starting point is 01:48:01 people used to give them to her gifts to keep her happy she couldn't get up to put them in herself though but I would come as often as I couldn't do it for. Turned the volume up to tune out the loud machine hooked up to her. It wasn't a long movie, but we enjoyed it together. I could see it in her eyes. It didn't matter which movie I played as long as we got to enjoy it together. For whatever time, we both had left.
Starting point is 01:48:23 I'm getting sad. This is rough. After it was over, I decided I'd go get something to drink. My mom drifted off to sleep sometime during the movie. She usually had a hard time staying awake any more than a few hours at once. From outside her room, had a few yearshot of the loud machine. Dear the soft music playing in the hallways. Same station was always plain, not one I recognized.
Starting point is 01:48:52 It was in some foreign language that was shockingly similar to English. There weren't any discernible words. Hello, Mrs. Dawson. I said cheerfully to the old lady along my path. Oh, hello, dear. What a nice young man. man you are. Do you happen to work here?
Starting point is 01:49:09 I'm looking for help. Her words were strong, spider's shaking body. Your skin was as pale as a ghost and thinner than paper. No, but you can go to your room, Mrs. Dawson, and I'll make sure help is there
Starting point is 01:49:22 for you as soon as they can. They may have trouble finding you if you're walking around. You know that. I do. My room? It looks confused. So I held her shoulders
Starting point is 01:49:34 as gently as I could and pointed her down the hallway. If you go down this hallway, ma'am, turn left at the end. And the first, in the first room is yours. Room 2-1-1. Oh, I see. How nice young man you are. Do you have family here?
Starting point is 01:49:50 She made eye contact, but it felt more like looking at a clay sculpture than it did a person. There's little consciousness left behind her eyes. Yeah, I do. I responded with a smile. She nods and turns around to begin walking away, murmuring something about how. nice young man she was walking in the wrong direction of course but I was sure a nurse
Starting point is 01:50:13 would find her later and help I loved my talks with Mrs. Dawson she was always so sweet I wouldn't have helped either I'm like her what the fuck I did what I could so if you directed I go yeah she goes the opposite fucking direction I'm like she'll find it
Starting point is 01:50:29 she'll be all right no she won't yeah she's probably going for a quick little fucking a quick little fucking a quick little brisk walk little pep talk to herself to get back in the groove how Stella got a groove back that's how I'd say and she's sitting there murmuring to herself
Starting point is 01:50:43 I'm like alright well I did my best I'm not gonna mess with that old fucking beehive walking around dude the help shows up eventually and it's like why does she keep walking and Hunter's been like I've been pointing her to the wrong wings on purpose he's gonna see he's gonna see her again
Starting point is 01:50:57 in her fucking she's gonna have great calves big calves if this was you you would like point out the front door of the nursing home to the highway. And it's like, it's right across the street, man. If I was if I was, if, if, if if I was in a nursing home and some
Starting point is 01:51:14 woman was like, hello, where am I going? I would say, don't ever talk to me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. You old fucking cook. He's what I'd say. I said, you touch me again. I'll knock your fucking lights out. You hear me. You old bitch. And she'd say, what? Oh my God. And if I was, let's say I'm the old man in the situation.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I look at a guy, grab him real tight by his wrist, real tight and I'd say kill me kill me push me into the road please throw me take me to my room a guy would take me to my room and I'd be like turn on it put the bath
Starting point is 01:51:52 fill up the bath he's like okay you want hot water I'm like scolding scolding hot and he's filled it up it's fucking steaming as hell in there and I'd be like put me in he put me in and then I would grab his and I'd put his hand on my face and I'd say drown me and I'd have him put his hand on my face until I was totally submerged and I'm like and then he'd be like I can't I do it do it pussy kill me is what I'd do it I'd want him to drown me I want to fucking drown me or I would say give me those pills and say hey give me those pills and I take a big thing of the pills and I would just like slowly drip my shoulders down and I would just slowly fall asleep in the tub and fucking drown to death I like how you had all of that ready I think every
Starting point is 01:52:36 I'll think about I think about it every day if anybody drops me off at a fucking nursing home I'm gonna just tell anybody I'll give you two I'll leave I'll leave $200 hey the tooth fairy left you
Starting point is 01:52:48 $200 to to hit me in the head with a hammer until I die I have $200 only with my pillow the tooth fairy left something for you here's the question would you return the favor if you were the young man in that scenario
Starting point is 01:53:03 no I don't think I'd kill anybody but I would like maybe maybe not saying I would but maybe if I was like oh it's kind of hot in here and I like fucking propped open the back door I was left open I'm like let's do it nature whatever happens in nature for him for for the old geriatric man to wander outside oh here I go and I'd be like well I didn't see that and I just walk off and I'm like well if he comes back then if he comes back raised by wolves and he's worth, you know, staying alive. If not, then that's just what nature wanted is what I would say.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Raised by wolves at 85 years old. Exactly. Ho! Ho! Or maybe what happens as wolves come into the nursing home and start terrorizing. Oh, my God! Who let these wolves in? You just hear my
Starting point is 01:53:56 car skid off. I'll drive the fuck out of there. I can stay in that. You leave the door open. Yeah, my grandma has her. Just a pack of wolves. Exactly. A giant pack of wolves.
Starting point is 01:54:07 I'm driving away, speeding away. I look back and I see my, my grandma's face of the window. And she's like, ah! And she's being fucking torn apart by three, by three young. Oh,
Starting point is 01:54:19 and I say, I mean hungry pups. You can see their ribs. Their fucking eyes have been eaten out by flies and shit. She's like, Dear God! No! That kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:54:32 You feed your grandfather to the wolves. Okay. No, no, no. I didn't feed. I didn't feed him. I prop the back door open.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Nature took its course. Nature took its course. That's what was supposed to have. Yeah. Come back. But I'm gone. I don't even hear that. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I'm driving. I'm driving away. I'm driving away. I have to block that out because I saw the wolves come in. I definitely know something bad's going to happen. But I immediately get my, I get my mind off of it by blasting. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:54:58 So now you've seen the wolves come in. No, No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. So in this, in this situation, back doors left open. I'm just, just to throw it a little, just a, let's see what nature says. I say that right before I get ready to leave. I fucking steal a, I go up to an old man, I fucking grab his pudding out of his hand. I said, it's mine now.
Starting point is 01:55:14 He's like, my snack pack. And I fucking slap him in the face. And I'm eating his chocolate snack pack. I leave open the door. I'm like, let's see what nature has to say, right? And as I'm going to go, I, I bump my ass into the door to open it because I have my snack pack. And I, like, look, and I'm like, oh, shit. And there's five visceral young, hungry pups that kind of,
Starting point is 01:55:30 I'm in with one alpha, and I do zoinks, and I get the fuck out of there. That's what I'm saying. So I see it as I'm going out, but I'm like, uh-oh, nature's already. Nature's acted so quickly. Yeah, but the nature only acted because you left the door. No, no, no, no, nature acted on it. No, no, no, no, nature acted on its own. And I, and I'm able to, and I'm, you know, and I have to block out the screams of my grandmother,
Starting point is 01:55:53 and I'm blasting Electric Avenue in my car. You know, we're going to rock down to electric Avenue. And I'm driving away and I'm speeding. I'm going like 85 in a residential neighborhood. Of course. Because I can see my grandma on the window. Pan hitting the fucking window and stuff. She's never been so strong.
Starting point is 01:56:10 She almost cracks the window. And I'm like, where was that strength? You know, help me here and there. I'm like, okay, well, what the fuck? That was hiding somewhere. Good luck with that. So. And for you to witness all this too, you have to be like four feet from the window,
Starting point is 01:56:24 not moving. Just my, my car, my car stalled out. I was sitting there trying to start it so you could easily because the door is open we've established that you can easily walk around well I'm not being challenged by nature all right once again I just want to say nature's taking its course
Starting point is 01:56:44 right right I'm not going to interfere with nature women at the nursing home being fed to the pack of wolves that for some reason are right outside the nursing home exactly ready to go exactly everyone that is supposed to survive nature will survive and they'll be better off for it and nature will be happy too those young pups will go
Starting point is 01:57:06 probably belly's full that's not for me to decide then that's not my fault that is nature I'm not going to interfere right if you saw a cheetah get grabbed by an alligator would you dive in to save the cheetah
Starting point is 01:57:18 no you'd probably say well that's just that's nature okay so all right uh do you think that maybe would i if my grandma was calling me if my grandma was calling me if my grandma was calling me hello i'm on she's on car play she interrupted my song i'm fucking pissed electric avenue right right and then in the in the car play i'm sitting there and she's like hunter you did you need to come back because there's wolves there's wolves in the nursing home And I'm like, huh?
Starting point is 01:57:57 I say what? In the back in the background, you hear, oh, ho! They're getting close, I think they're outside my daughter. I'm like, Grandma, I'm in a really, really bad intercept. The reception is horrible. I'll be back Tuesday, okay? Okay, she can see you at the window, though. Yeah, well, actually, I'm still now in this version, I'm standing at her looking at her through the window.
Starting point is 01:58:24 So we're making eye contact through the glass. Are you there if I imagining it? I'm like, I left hours ago. And that's just me actually just watching it. I'm like, it's part of those pills because you took your funny pills, right? Yeah, I did. Because you remember you said that they're funny looking? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:39 I'm like, all right. Well, I love you, grandma. Have a safe sleep. Okay. Maybe she just sleeps and she gets eaten that way. The wolves come in, rip out her feet. Oh, oh. She's a little good.
Starting point is 01:58:51 So here's my thoughts, right? Yeah. So you, you in your, you in life had, uh, you know, an experience with a grandfather, a traumatic experience that involved dogs, right? Yeah. And now in this fantasy that you've put together for yourself of, an adjacent. Okay, not fantasy, not that's a, that's a wrong word. Fantasy is not right.
Starting point is 01:59:13 And scenario, scenario, daydream, we'll call some area. In this daydream of yours, in this daydream of yours, you see the jakeetriam of yours, you see the adjacent grandparent, a grandmother in a position of helplessness where she is at a nursing home. One that we know from your mother's own story, your grandfather was placed to in the real world. You imagine a grandmother in that same scenario. And in this scenario, you cause a circumstance that allows them to be consumed by wolves, which are really just adjacent to dogs. I don't think that is, am I really to blame?
Starting point is 01:59:56 Do you think that in this fiction you've put together, having a grandparent be mauled by wolves by something that is not your fault, as you were arguing, but certainly your contribution. Leaves to them being killed by dogs. I can contribute to your actual grandfather. I'm not going to take a dog next to you.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I'm not going to take this line down. It's nature. Natural order is what it is. In the same way, you could argue that perhaps your grandfather, you know, in his move to kill you, naturally you were barely saved, although still seeing the thing, almost as if it would be an accident for you to leave the door open, would it not? Well, no, because it was stuffy in there. And I was trying to, I was doing a good thing.
Starting point is 02:00:41 If I would have left a window open, the same thing could happen. But you accidentally, this accidentally, because you didn't mean for it to, led to the wolves coming in and killing your grandmother. Well, that's just, that's nature. that's nature so but that but that is an accident then on your part leaving the door open no because that was intentional because they was drafting there because as i said before it's funny how even there was a group there was a group of old people who said funny god let me finish there was a group of old people as i said before i said this in the beginning a group of old people said oh god hudson
Starting point is 02:01:11 would you be there and could you leave the door open because it's so stuffy i said sure thing Mrs. Dickinson and then she gave me your snack pack and she said here's a treat and I was like oh thanks that's nice and I grab the snack pack I'm eating it I prop it open because they do that sometimes even the workers like yeah no problem and that's what happened so you're
Starting point is 02:01:36 so anyone else could say that was an accident then what you were doing but you won't they shouldn't have suggested I'm not I'm not putting the blame on them but they should have suggested it you won't detail it as an accident because Because then you have to acknowledge there's a connection between what you also claim to be an accident, your grandfather almost killing you, and instead killing your dog, because then that would draw the parallel too closely. I think that the trauma you experienced with your grandfather shooting your dog next to you is leading you to a scenario, a fantasy in which you, by no fault of your own, cause dogs to murder a grandparent.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I think that that's important. If it helps get the conversation moving to where we can get back to this beautiful story. That someone in our community, by the way, Isaiah, not that you care. Someone crafted for us to read here that you just seem to, you just seem to be wanting to make this tangent as long as possible. And I like how now that I've risen a good point, you now deflect the onus onto me that I don't care about this person who wrote the story for us. I'm lost. I don't even know if I can be found. We're now pulling another nonsense.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Ecuador. We're now like reaching somewhere else for you to have a different point. At first it was me not caring about who ever wrote this story or the story itself. Now it's you saying that you cannot be found with it. I think you're dodging the point. You talk to me. You say these things. You say Hunter. What do you think of this scenario? I deeply appreciate your opinion. I give you them. And then you just take it and you run wild with it. Right. Now it's my fault. Now you're turning the guy on me. At a point, it just gets tiring. Doesn't? Right. Right. Right, I'm sure. I'm sure. Okay. Well, I think the audience, I think the point's been made very clear to them. I think they will elaborate with that further. I just think that's an interesting parallel that when your mind's given a chance to run, it runs back to that recurring trauma. And I care about you because you're my friend and I think you should talk to someone. That's all I'm saying. After another minute or two of walking down the hall, I made my way into the employee lounge. I didn't think they'd mind me using it so long as I never took anything that didn't belong to me. There was a small kitchen in it that the staff used to use to heat meals they brought in for lunch. The sink was overflowing with dirty dishes, and flies were buzzing fiercely around it. The marble countertops surrounded the sink was caked in a thick layer of grease and dried sauces. I can't remember the last time the janitor worked. I'd have to bring him in for it later.
Starting point is 02:04:07 The cops were kept in a low-down cabinet that I always had to get down on my knees for. Mostly, this was so the people in wheelchairs could come in and grab a cup when they wanted, but the residents weren't allowed in here anymore. Inside the cabinet, there are only a few clean cups in the back, which were hard to reach. I ducked down even lower and used one hand to support myself as the other, reach for a cup and managed to grab it just by the fingertips. Without warning, my eardrums were suddenly assaulted by the deafening sound of a horn, impossibly glowed, and coming from all around me at once. Uncontrollably, my body jolted up and my head cracked into the lip of the marble counter above me.
Starting point is 02:04:46 I dropped the cup and rolled back onto the floor, pressing both my hands against my ears to try to block out the noise, but it did no good. It was as if a train was traveling the distance between my ears and blaring its horn the whole way through. I lay there on the ground with my knees tucked into my chest, my head tucked between them for God knows how long. Eventually, after enough time, the horn began to grow quiet inside of my head. Not all at once, but in odd fragments and segments. I was able to hear it all around me at first, but I couldn't hear it as much from behind me. Then I could only hear it from either side of me. Then I couldn't hear it at all.
Starting point is 02:05:24 The blessing of silence was waylaid with a thrumming pain behind my eyes. I didn't get up at first. Stay down to collect myself a bit. And he shook a little that I managed to get on to my feet and saw a few clear drops of blood where my head had begun. Sure enough, I reached up to where I cracked my eyes. head and my fingers came away wet. I figured I could just get my glass of water later and while trying not to freak out, I left the lounge take my way to the first floor. The building has three floors. The first being the floor with all the activity rooms, the receptionary
Starting point is 02:05:58 with all the offices, and the main kitten. Second and third floors are full of residence in a few smaller miscellaneous rooms. I'd only been up to the third floor once or twice when I accidentally hit the wrong elevator button and didn't realize it. I never saw it. I never saw it. need to go up there otherwise so i didn't it was where most of the hospice patients and students at the local medical school would reside the hallway i walked down was full of wheelchairs and walkers most of them empty spare one with a fat old man sitting in it it looks like a chair but with a full beard his skin pale and his cheeks chubby his hair was sparse and wispy against his scalp and his head was tilted to lean on his shoulder like a pillow i know it would be hard to wake him up i tiptoed
Starting point is 02:06:41 around him anyway, just to be polite. A few yards past, did the rapture happen? Is that what the train horn sound? And now, like, this one guy left in his chair is? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. A few yards past him was the main desk for the second floor. It was where the nurses and assistance on the floor
Starting point is 02:07:00 worked to maintain comfort, safety for the residence. As I walked past it, I could see Mrs. Dawson down a perpendicular hallway. Her head was on a swivel as if she was trying to find something that wasn't there. I'd let the nurse take care of her after me. After the desk, inside a large room just off the side, was the elevator and stairs would go down. Well, stairs at least, the elevator have been broken for some time.
Starting point is 02:07:24 The doors were permanently jammed open to reveal the long, dark drop underneath. It wasn't a big deal, though. I just made sure the door to this room was shut tight so the residence would be safe. Made my way down the stairs. The sun shone brighter down here thanks to the floor-to-ceiling windows to the left and right at the front desk. Stairs led me to the main reception area just past the front doors. The only noise heard here, away from the residence, was the music, at odd and incomprehensible music.
Starting point is 02:07:51 I made my way over and leaned down over the guest sign-in sheet and signed myself out as a visitor. I walked past the desk after signing my signature and opened a door into a back office, then walked over to a computer, who did it up, and began to write. Something I took up recently, keeping a log in my days here. I've been thinking about posting them somewhere where I could talk to someone like me but I haven't decided yet I guess if you're reading this
Starting point is 02:08:16 then you already know my decision I'm not sure why I decided to write I think I just makes me feel more sure of myself comforts me in some strange way like I'm assuring myself that I am real that I exist it means I'll have something to look back at and organize my thoughts with
Starting point is 02:08:32 sounds stupid but it's been working as a sort of therapy for me I had saved on my document and turned the computer off. Half of my day's log was done, yet another half of the day still unlived right about. Two rooms over from the first office was a storage room with some uniforms and tools for the workers I had set aside.
Starting point is 02:08:50 I began to strip off all my clothes and hanged them from the hooks on the back of the door. Even my socks and underwear came off. I was as bare as the day I was born. By one, I perused the uniforms that I had gathered in this room. There's a dark purple males, nurses, outfit on a shelf in a neatly folded pile
Starting point is 02:09:08 that I decided on. The underwear was on top and the socks, the pants, the shirt after that. I made sure they were all in place as I found them the first time, making sure to tighten the draw shrink on the pants tightly. There are two sizes too big for me, but I may do as best as I could.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Hold on. So, what? The clothes he's found he's been stealing and putting back here? Yeah. Okay, I'm going to keep reading. With a few antiseptic wipes and some ointment in hand, I made my way out into the quiet hall. My footsteps on the linoleum floor went tap, tap, tap, tap, almost in time to the song, playing as they carried me towards the bathroom. I had to clean some dust off the mirror first, before I could see myself clearly, but I managed to twist my head in a way I could see the cut on my scalp and clean it up properly.
Starting point is 02:09:57 One task was completed, and Mrs. Dawson needed attention. My mother would probably be awake by then. I could give her some water and maybe cook some food after that too. As I opened the door to the bathroom, something caught my attention. A smell. One that surprisingly enticed me at first, albeit confusingly. It smelled like toasting fresh bread. When I was a kid, my mother used to bake her own bread. It's a hobby of hers.
Starting point is 02:10:21 Coming home from school, only to open the door and smell that incredible sin of bread fresh out of the oven was bliss. Even more than that. Sometimes, when I had a bad day, she would make me a grilled cheese to cheer me up. The smell I was smelling was just like I remembered it. it. Someone nearby was making grilled cheese. I'm not sure who could be doing it, but almost cartoonishly, I followed the smell down the hallways. Granted, the smell didn't seem any stronger or weaker as I walked, but it must be coming from the kitchen. There's no other explanation.
Starting point is 02:10:51 So towards the kitchen I walked, and as I did, the smell changed. The bread began to burn. I picked up the pace, the smell of lush, fluffy, warm bread turning acrid and borderline noxious. But the kitchen seemed so far away. Every step of mind drew me closer. It had to. As I looked around, I found myself still in the doorway to the bathroom. The door hadn't even closed yet.
Starting point is 02:11:14 It was leaning against my shoulder. Somehow, even after what felt like at least 60 seconds of walking, I was standing totally still. I was exactly where I first smelled the bread. It didn't make sense. I had to be imagining it. There was no one in the kitchen. No one was cooking grilled cheese,
Starting point is 02:11:30 and my legs most definitely still worked. Took a step forward, other, the third. The first step shifted my left arm, the second turned my head, and the third flexed my core. Something had gone horribly wrong with me. Panic began to set in as I realized my own body was outside of my control. That's when the world around me began to change. It was as if I had stepped into my own blurry memory. If I unfocused my eyes, I could see the familiar shape of the lobby around me, but if I tried to look any closer, all the details began to blur together. None of the objects I could see had any outline blending into each other to form new
Starting point is 02:12:06 shapes I never even dreamed of, yet each one looks so familiar. Objects in the background linked and intertwined with objects in the foreground and the difference between the two became indecipherable to me. I know this place, where I am and where to go, but felt like this place did not know me. The one constant in this lobby was the song. Still, the music played, but as my senses warped in my mind muddled, the noise swam around me, wiggling into my brain and ejecting itself into my nerves. The words in the song seemed so
Starting point is 02:12:37 close to understandable. I know I had heard them before, but the more I tried to place them, the further away my thoughts ran from me. I tried to close my eyes and block out the side of my world slipping away, but my eyes did not listen. Instead, my legs began to move, to carry me
Starting point is 02:12:53 to a place I could not know because I could not tell the difference. Logically, I know I was still in the lobby. maybe in the kitchen or the bathroom but for all I could tell it might have been the other side of the world in that moment I couldn't form a real thought my inner monologue
Starting point is 02:13:09 sounded like it was speaking in a foreign language words came in the wrong order the wrong parts were emphasized some words just seemed entirely made up it was getting worse by the minute so I decided I needed something to latch on to by bed I try to move for myself
Starting point is 02:13:24 to take some amount of control try to shift my shoulder my toe wriggled, I tried to move my toe and my knee bent. I tried to move my knees and my jaw glinched down hard. Through brute force and with an incredible amount of luck, I managed to close my hand. I felt something in my palm, something I had felt before, but just couldn't remember what. I squeezed it hard trying to use it to anchor my body in place and stop me from moving. I'm not sure if it was just my eyes playing tricks on me or if I actually was moving,
Starting point is 02:13:56 but the walls and colors around me continued to shift and melt. Something did change that I never could have imagined. Someone would begin to scream. It was shrill and pierced my ears. If I could have wheeled my arms to, I would have checked if they were bleeding.
Starting point is 02:14:12 Definiting noise around me except that Godforsaken song. It still played. I have no idea how, but even through the otherworldly scream, I managed to hear it. The lyrics seemed to speak to me. Through all things around me,
Starting point is 02:14:25 I alone connected. I could not see what was around me. I could not feel the ground beneath my feet, and my mind was in more pieces than I could hope to reassemble. But I began to understand. And give us this day our daily bread. My grip tied in and my body began to seize. And forgive us our trespasses.
Starting point is 02:14:44 Everything in front of me began to swirl, twist. As you forgive those who trespass against us. My jaw was still clenched, muscles tightening and relaxing against my will, and finally, my eyelids began to. to close. Every thought in my head, like sand, running through my fingers, began to slip away. I lay there for some amount of time. I'm not sure how long, until my body relaxed. Whatever my hand was gripping slipped away, scream, easing into a gentle meek sob.
Starting point is 02:15:12 The music, as always, persisted, but I could no longer make out of the words. And what I could only describe as the first moment of bliss in the whole ordeal, my consciousness faded away. Interesting. So I made the joke about the rapture earlier. This might actually be the rapture. considering he's hearing the Lord's prayer and there's people missing out of wheelchairs like they were raptured up and then there's a singing coming
Starting point is 02:15:35 and it seems that the description of I may need to reread that but that description of I was walking through the hospital and I'd collected clothes I had found that almost makes it sound like people were raptured out of their clothes and the clothes left behind
Starting point is 02:15:48 and he's been living in here for some time maybe taking care of the elderly patients and keeping clothes. I don't know. but yeah I feel it's obviously religious because the song he keeps hearing is the Lord's Prayer so maybe that is what's going on oh no took hours for me to wake up I'm not sure how many but when I woke I was greeted with pale moonlight 3 p.m. when I finished the movie with my mom now it was the middle of the night okay so all that was a dream right
Starting point is 02:16:18 I think well yeah with him saying it took hours for me to wake up so I'm guessing I'm guessing that this just felt like is some, like, super long feeling. You know what I mean? Like whenever a dream feels like it's almost years or something. Like I mentioned, I feel like a full night. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. My mouth was dry as a desert and my entire body was sore as if I had just had the
Starting point is 02:16:40 work out of my life. I was lying flat on my back on some hard surface, but I didn't need to look around to know where I was. Just hang in there, the poster said. A little cat was hanging from a branch in the captioned photo. it was a poster that I got for my mom when she first moved in in the nursing home back when the doctor said there was a chance she could get better. It was taped her ceiling and she thought it was hilarious,
Starting point is 02:17:03 even when the rest of the family thought it was odd. Against my aching body's wishes, I shifted myself into a sitting position and looked around me. The Xbox had long since gone into sleep mode and the smell permeated the air, let me know I needed to change her diaper. I dragged myself to my feet and looked at her. Her eyes meeting immediately. and I, like usual, forced a big smile on my face
Starting point is 02:17:25 for the first time since she had her first stroke I didn't know what to say what had she seen what did I get here what happened to me downstairs whether or not she knew the answers didn't matter she couldn't tell me even if I asked a growing familiar suspicion grew in my gut
Starting point is 02:17:43 that I decided to focus on what she needed first I could take care of myself but she couldn't you thirsty mom I'm sorry it's so low I'll make some food in a bed. I'm sure I can find something to cook up for us. Her good eyes stared into my soul.
Starting point is 02:17:57 It was puffy and red. She'd been crying. I reached down to the bin next to her bed, grabbing her communication sheet and held it up for her. She shakily reached out her good arm, pointed a slack finger at yes. I adjusted my smile and began to speak, but her arm began to shift,
Starting point is 02:18:15 pointed to something else on the sheet. She pointed at help. Then slowly and steadily, she raised her arm and pointed outside the room. Help outside? Does someone else need help? No. The day is over and I haven't had food or taken care of any of the residence yet.
Starting point is 02:18:37 My mom has always been the kind of person who puts other people's well-being in front of her own. So when she said help outside, it just seemed obvious to me. Okay, mom, I'll make sure everyone is okay. But don't you fall asleep in that diaper? again. I'll throw a movie on for you. It'll be back before it's over, okay? I threw on Christmas movie. We used to watch together when I was a kid and told her I loved her before walking out. As I left, I heard her let out a little ground that told me she had hit the morphing button. I needed to check her machine later. She seemed to be going through more morphine
Starting point is 02:19:10 every week lately. I'm not sure what I'll do when I run out. Okay, so he keeps saying stuff like that what I'll do when I run out the outfits I found it's like he's been the only one here for a while normally you would wait on the nurses to refill the morphine machine right but he's like what I'll do when I run out so has he been here for a while just the two of them
Starting point is 02:19:30 maybe it's hard to say because that's what I'm wondering too is was it not a dream and he just woke up like he went to bed woke up and then he's still and it's kind of like real you know I mean like it wasn't a dream he's that also explains why he went and started writing all this on a computer in
Starting point is 02:19:45 the nursing home. Yeah. Because he's just been here by himself, almost taking care of all the patients on his own. What fewer left. Outside of her, this also explains why he needs to be the one to go help outside instead of, you know, the rest of the people that work there.
Starting point is 02:20:02 Outside of her room, on the rest of the second floor, all the lights were still brightly lit. From room to room, made a list of what he treasident needed. Yes. Okay. So he's definitely, the clothes he talked about finding the ones that are too big is because he's just
Starting point is 02:20:15 wearing the clothes. He's taking care of everyone in the nursing home because he's the only person left. Yeah. I haven't checked the empty rooms just to check that someone hadn't made their way inside. There were nine residents in their rooms, not included my mom, but unfortunately, one had passed away while I was unconscious.
Starting point is 02:20:31 It looked like her breathing apparatus had come undone and she suffocated. Found her on the ground halfway across the floor of the room, presumably trying to crawl to it for some hope of fresh oxygen. The ground by her hands was scuffed and her nails were all filed down to her fingertips. a desperate attempt to pull herself forward.
Starting point is 02:20:48 With a deep sigh, I walked out of the room, closed the door, locked it with a master key, and walked away. There were eight residents in their rooms, not including my mom. Some residents weren't happy to be woken up by me, but I was sure waking up hungry or sick tomorrow would be much worse. Two of them asked me about some horrendous noise they heard, some kind of yelling. I reassured them everything was okay and everyone was happy,
Starting point is 02:21:11 moved on to the next room. eventually I had a list of everyone's needs from diaper changes to food especially the nighttime medicine that some needed only one person was missing for my list this is dawson she wasn't in her room like usual and I didn't see her walking around the hallways either I bit down on my gut feeling that something was wrong and just assumed she was in a staff room or perhaps the floor's main bathroom she didn't turn up in either I realized something then I'd come upstairs in my stupor which means I made it past the door revealing the elevator shaft.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Feeling similar to a rock sinking in my stomach hit me as I turned my walk into a run down the hallway. I could already see the door to the elevator and stair room just past the nurse's desk, which was halfway open. Panic said in once more, and as I ran, I almost missed it. Sound of someone crying. I practically tripped trying to slow down my run so suddenly. It was a miracle I heard it all over my footsteps in the sound of the music plane.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Sound was coming from the nurse's desk. It was a large circular desk with four computers facing each hallway and an island in the middle that served to hold paperwork for the whole floor. I opened one of the flip-up countertops that stepped into the desk to see the source of the crime. Curled up underneath the desk, doing her best job of being invisible, was Mrs. Dawson. She looked at me with fear in her eyes, but I don't think she was afraid of me, just afraid of the world around her. Her eyes were puffy, like she had been crying for a long time. And her cane was nowhere in sight. Mrs. Dawson, are you okay? Do you need help up?
Starting point is 02:22:46 Every word I spoke made her twitch. Yes, please. It hurts. I need you to help me. I took her hand and lifted her to her feet, letting her lean as much weight she needed on me. She was so light I considered carrying her, but it felt disrespectful. Is he gone? Is he gone, ma'am? So lifted her into the light. I couldn't take my eyes away from her arm.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Her upper arm, just above her elbow. was a mess of purples, yellows, and pinks. It was a large bruise, and I couldn't help but notice it was about as wide as my hand was. That man who was here earlier, I thought he worked here, but then something happened. Her words dragged, each one taking a conscious effort on her part. What happened? Do you know how you got this bruise? I asked, hoping to at least get some fragments of what happened. Fortunately, her broken mind worked against her.
Starting point is 02:23:40 It was like I'd had for years now. Bruce? What bruise, dear? I decided not to press the matter more. She may not remember it, but I had a growing suspicion in my gut about how she got it. Like a root catching the soil, the gnawing feeling that I did something very wrong grew inside of me. I took her to her room and sat down on her bed gently, helping her get onto it to lie down.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Her arm needed medical attention, she needed medicine. Her body needed food to begin to heal itself, and before she tried to get up in the morning, I need to get her a cane. My head spun with all the work I needed to do. My body was sore and fatigue, and my mind was foggy and full of holes. I'm here in the office now, typing this up. I'm going to include this in the same daily log as the previous one. It doesn't make sense to me to make it a new one,
Starting point is 02:24:28 even if it's technically after midnight now. I'm not sure what happened to me, and I don't think the people living here will be any help to me anyway. I think that's why I made the decision I did to post this online somewhere. I had a stroke today, I'm sure, but my mother's life was anything to go by. Who knows how soon the next one would come? I think I know for sure is that another one would come. I'm not sure if there's anyone left for this to even reach,
Starting point is 02:24:55 but I don't see the harm in posting it. I had to type it out real quick while I was still fresh in my memory, with all the grainy details still fit together. But now I need to go take care of my residence. I'm not good at goodbyes, so I'll just say that I hope to hear something, anything. and if I do, thank you. Note to self, delete any mention of Johnny. That's a fun, that's a fun, nice little beginning to a series.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Interesting. This is cool. Okay, so it sounds like maybe even from, maybe I misread the beginning of the story. Maybe from the beginning he's been here by himself. Like the story opens there. Or maybe it's whatever he hears that large train hoard or something. But at some point, everyone else disappears.
Starting point is 02:25:41 And he says at the end, I don't even know if there's anyone out there to read this. So maybe it is like the rapture. Everyone disappeared and just their clothes are left behind. And he doesn't know what's coming. He doesn't know if it's the end of the world or what. But he's just here with a few old people and he's decided to take care of them. But he has a weird, like he has this weird foggy vision that reminds him of his childhood and all the shapes.
Starting point is 02:26:04 Nothing looks right. Then he wakes up years later. He might have hurt Mrs. Dawson. And there's also the mention to delete any mention of Johnny. so this Johnny character showed up somewhere in the story but was supposedly deleted so what does he have to do with any of this and who is Johnny that there's so many interesting questions this is such a fun scenario the nursing home at the end of the world just a guy taking care of everyone by himself what an awesome setup yeah I like the rapture part of it as well like just the hip having to basically almost be this like uh like I'm wondering if he's going to start trying to help people pass on you know what I mean oh that'd be dark he's trying to take them to the next word
Starting point is 02:26:43 the next world yeah like prepping them up to do that after life that that's why I'm wondering too like if he like starts carrying on this responsibility what's the the fairy man of the dead is it Chiron or something like that I think that's right I think it's different well yes it's probably different per
Starting point is 02:27:00 culture or whatever but that just makes you think of something like that it's a fun yeah it's a fun fun beginning to something of like a little series and I do think that we do we need we need part two up on the subreddit and we need to know why
Starting point is 02:27:16 I want to know why the second one we need to know why part two guys can't because part two still on theirs like they're personal I think they just posted it to their own page because yeah it looks like it's just they just posted it I didn't know you could do that on but you don't have to post it to a sub they just posted
Starting point is 02:27:32 themselves and then they also posted it to our slash deep night society which is another like, you know, scary story thing and R slash scary stories and it didn't get taken down from there. So I would know why it got, getting cut off of no sleep makes sense. Stuff gets cut off there all the time. Why did it get taken off of
Starting point is 02:27:48 Creepcast? I want to know. I need to know this. We need to have an internal investigation. How cool is it though? So many different kinds of stories from viewers here. I definitely we need to read more viewer submissions. Please take time and if you have written something, share it with us on
Starting point is 02:28:04 the sub on the subreddit. You know, use the tag. fan-made story. We got some fun stuff of like obviously somebody's like, you know, redacted. Please come back. Redacted. We need you for the loss of innocence. That was just, I mean, it's just, it was a fun day of reading. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:19 It was. This was a nice. Also, too, almost three hours. I feel like it flew by. I really liked the, the third story was good. I really loved this last one. I want to see the rest of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Loss of innocence is fine. It's fun. And then the third one we read, which was, the book that doesn't end fun awesome story thank you very much i think yeah i'm pretty sure that stuff was in reference to my stuff it means a lot to see someone writing cool stories after being inspired by us that's cool but also that second story very um the the woman i miss before doesn't exist that one actually scared me yeah that one actually got me spooked a little bit that had a lot like i said the the the buildup of the anticipation of the story was so effective so simple too it's just a guy
Starting point is 02:29:01 sitting down reading a book but it's told in a way where it feels once again refreshing it feels like you're on the edge of your seat reading it i'm really curious to see how people like that one also let us know which one you like the most down there and be sure like i said we're leaving links to all of the stuff in the youtube description as well so if you're listening to this on spotify or apple podcast or anything like that if you want to know more about the stories the links are in the youtube description so please be sure to go uh support them leave a nice comment on them upvoted you know leave thoughts criticisms anything you know that's what it's all about um it's awesome man so sick so thank you guys so much for
Starting point is 02:29:36 listening today. Thank you so much to the viewers who wrote these awesome stories. This is definitely a new series we're going to be doing. Can't wait to just keep diving in to more and more of this this awesome fucking storytelling in our community, man. So cool. Definitely. It's really cool to see this out of you guys. We have the coolest, the coolest community on the internet. I swear to God. Yeah. Everyone here. Everyone's funny. Everyone writes cool. So this is just like, we just scrolled through today and we're like, here's a few that look fun. And These were awesome. These were so well done.
Starting point is 02:30:07 They're better than a lot of other places. I read stories online. And this is just people who watch the podcast. You all are great. Thank you all so much for doing this. Thank you for posting it there. Thank you for some reason taking your insane talent and incorporating us, incorporating us into it in some small way by posting on the subreddit.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Y'all are awesome. We don't deserve you. Thank you guys for being so cool. We'll see you in the next one, guys. Also, like I said, be sure to check out the Patreon. If you want some more bonus content, new episode will be up. it's probably already up by now whenever this video comes out so guys thank you so much we will see you next week bye bye see you in the next one and uh time for the internal and fares
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