CreepCast - My Dead Girlfriend Is Messaging Me On Facebook | Creep Cast

Episode Date: January 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:18 No. Acha Raki. Welcome back to Creepcast We're here with a very sick There you go hammer it up He says he's sick He told me just before I did I've tried to preach my voice that loud
Starting point is 00:00:51 Look yesterday I was so sick that I was like a small heater I was like a generator just shivering In the corner of the couch It was disgusting, but I can talk now, so I'm better. Do you think that part of the sickness has to do with the second half of Barasca? Do you think that it has anything to do with your illness? I think this is certainly some kind of karma, if that's what you think. If everyone was very upset, that, and I was really, if you think about it, I was the criminal in that whole ordeal,
Starting point is 00:01:22 because I'm like, oh, let's, come on, Hunter, there's this fun little creepy pasta called Barrasca. You'll love it, so this is cosmic justice. I will say, there has been quite the response on it. You know, typically people, you know, we get like 3,000, 4,000 comments, whatever. It's been a day, and there's been already almost like 10,000 comments. Yeah. People, you know, it is, it's a hard thing. It's unbelievable, though. There was a lot of people who were in my shoes, so I feel vindicated at least that people were like, I was right there with them.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah. So I feel happy. And most of those like 10,000 comments. comments are like vaguely veiled threats. It's mostly kind of like, this is, what did you do? What did you just wrote me into? That is true. A hunter's innocent.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'm sorry, but look, I'm paying for it now. My throat hurts a lot. So, you know what? We'll call it even. Okay, so no more. I think it's even. Yeah, no more being sick. We're good.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, come on. What is the extent here? I mean, let's listen to that deathly cough. Which, you know, I will say, today we are doing a bit of a pallet cleanser. This is a shorter, you know, but, Still a good one from the No Sleep subreddit again. And the title of this one, at least the subject line is, My Dead Girlfriend Keeps Messaging Me on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I've got the screenshots. I don't know what to do. Which already from that, once again, I'm going in blind. I don't know. Isaiah, have you seen this one? Or have you read this one? I think, so this story came out like 2012, if I remember right? 2013, something like that.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Oh, another old one, okay. It's another old one. I remember listening to, like, Mr. Crepepasta's audio version of this when it happened. But I haven't looked at this story in like a decade. So I remember almost nothing about it. Okay. This is one of the classics. This is one of the classics, though.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Like, there's a few old creepypasta that kind of got passed around the internet, like early campfire stories, you know, so to speak, like these short little slices of horror. And this is one of the OGs, as a lot of people remember. So it's a classic, like I said. For posts like this, because obviously the no sleep suburb has to still be. It's an active place, right? It seems like around this time, though, how many of these do you think, with especially like a title,
Starting point is 00:03:33 My Dead Girlfriend keeps messaging me on Facebook, I've got the screenshots, I don't know what to do. It's like a plea for help. It almost seems like it's setting up that this is supposed to be real. Yeah. Do you think, does that,
Starting point is 00:03:42 do posts like this still even happen, or is it too? Oh, it happens all the time. Well, remember, one of the rules of no sleep is that it has to appear that the story made it to the board in some, like, logical way.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So there's a lot of people who act as if they're someone looking for help coming to the website. Because that's an easy way to, you know, lead into the framework, so to speak. But if you, like, go to the subreddit right now and scroll through, there are dozens and dozens of scary stories with the title, you know, something similar to that. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm glad that that torch is still being passed along. I love it. This is fun. I mean, once again, you know, it really makes me, it really shows.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's very telling that a lot of these I've never heard of. So a lot of these I'm going in as a very helpless little dove, all right? So I don't know. It's a nice thing to feel like if you're hearing this for the first time, we are in the same boat. I am a newbie when it comes to a lot of this stuff, so it's fun. I'm excited to get into it. So without further ado, why don't we just dive on in? Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Let's dive right in. Do you want to take the first section or me? I will. I'll take it, which it starts off by saying, tonight's kind of a catalyst for this post. I just received another message and it's worse than any of the others My girlfriend died on the 7th of August
Starting point is 00:05:01 2012 Yeah she was at the LMFAO Album Release Party at Best Buy She got tripled All right She was involved She was involved in the three car Like all right
Starting point is 00:05:15 All right I know those gets you going Too early, too early Too early, too early She was involved in a three car collision Driving home from work when someone ran a red light. She passed away within minutes on the scene.
Starting point is 00:05:28 We had been dating for five years at this point. She wasn't big on the idea of marriage. It felt archaic, she said, gave her a weird vibe. But if she had been, I would have married her within three months of our relationship. She was vibrant, the kind of girl that would choose dare every time. She was happiest when camping, but a total technophile. She always smelled like cinnamon. That's a very odd way to end that deal.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I just want to say that. I don't think you can go from, she was the, she was happiest when camping. Hey, she loved technology. And my God, she smelled like cinnamon. This just feels like a, she smelled like cinnamon. She smells sweet. Yeah, how would you describe what she smelled like in your... I'm trying to think about how I even describe the smell of my wife.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This feels weird. It feels weird to put like a deal like, my wife smells like applesauce. Yeah, there's no, there's, no, there's, my wife wears like vanilla, like, perfumes and stuff like that a lot. So I would say vanilla, but that's weird. Even though there's logical reasons, it's weird to say, my wife smells like vanilla. Yeah, it's just like, okay, are you going to eat her? It only feels applicable if it's like, it's like, it's applicable, if it's just odd.
Starting point is 00:06:43 She smells like Calvin Klein Cologne. She smells like wrangler jeans. Yeah, regardless of how acceptable your reasoning is, it's a weird thing to say. It's just odd. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter. But that being said, here's the thing. She wasn't perfect.
Starting point is 00:06:58 She always said something along the lines of, if I kark it first, don't just say good things about me. I've never liked that. If you don't pay me out, you're doing me a disservice. I've got so many flaws. And that's just part of me. So this is for M. The music she said she liked,
Starting point is 00:07:14 and the music she actually liked were very different. Her idea of affection was a side hug. She had really long toes like a chimpanzee. Okay. Once again, the ends of these paragraphs, the ends of these paragraphs are dead on, I just let's say she's got long toes. Oh, that's so funny. If you, bro. If you combine the last sentences together, it would say she always smelled like cinnamon. She had long, really long toes like a chimpanzee. Right? Just want to say, I don't know. I don't know. I like that. dude when you're coming to a supposedly you're coming to a board to talk about your dead girlfriend message and you a very like scary you know haunting topic and in your introduction you're like a she had long toes she was like a chimp even almost like bro yeah she smelled like cinnamon she smelled like a bundle of cinnamon sticks you know during christmas not to keep referencing previous episodes but this is how i imagine kyle from barasca would talk about kimber this is definitely some kyle Kyle the kimber thing yo your toes are mad at long. You know, hand me that remote with your foot.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I just want to see if it's possible. Those dogs are barking. But I don't feel right about discussing her without you having an idea of what she was like. On to the meat. M. had been dead for approaching 13 months when she first messaged me, which is just kind of interesting here because now we're getting something. There's a clickable link and it says September 4th, 2013, and it opens an image to a Facebook messenger.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yep. and at on what is that September 4th at 331 she says hello Nathan says who who is this I'm really it's really weird receiving messages from Emily's account there's a 331 immediately at 340 he put two question marks and said okay well well in the future please send me a message from an account even if you want to discuss her page and then on the 9th 4th or 4 minutes later at 344 she put hello again and then 345 Nathan says,
Starting point is 00:09:11 Susan, your own Emily's account? So it's just, it's just like Emily's old account messaging hello over and over again.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And he says, this is when it began. I left Emily's Facebook account activated so I could send her the occasional message, post on her wall and go through her albums.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It felt too final and to unemily and to unemily, whatever. Like it wouldn't be like Emily to memorialize the page. That's not something
Starting point is 00:09:39 she'd want. Yeah. yeah it would have been too un-emily like to memorialize it so i share access with her mother susan meaning her mother has her login and password and has spent a total of approximately three minutes on the website or on a computer in total and after a little confusion i assumed it was her which then we do a nice big jump to november 16th 2013 i will i will add one detail i like about that screenshot is like he's obviously referencing emily starting to message him which is the start of the story. But if you look at the previous messages above, you can see that, like,
Starting point is 00:10:13 he was sending her messages, like, after she died. And it is very heartbreaking. I've heard that a lot, someone who loses a loved one, kind of texting them the last few things they wanted to say. Yeah. And it's like, it's a nice note for the story, like a nice little note of authenticity, makes the characters feel more real, even though he did say that she smells like cinnamon. It makes it feel more legitimate. So it's a nice touch. I like that. Yeah, it's always I mean, that's always like a tragic part of a story is whenever it's like you, you text somebody's phone or something and it's nice to know that it got sent. And then when you find out that like you text it one day and it says this number isn't
Starting point is 00:10:50 in service anymore, it's just kind of like a stake to the heart kind of thing. So it's nice to feel like this character still has an outlet to talk to this person that they really care that they really cared for. Yeah. And it is nice too. Like it doesn't just start immediately. He doesn't just screenshot, you know, the new messages. There's still a little bit in there too.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's just a nice little bit of optimistic here. more legitimate. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, we skip a couple months to November, and on November 16th, 2013, we get another hyperlink, another text chat here. Emily says, hello, let's hit up blank trail this Sunday. Nathan responds, who is this? And Emily says, the wheels on the bus. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Nathan says, please tell me who you are. You know, please tell me who you are. wheels on the bus car do you think that that's only do you think that like in text form that just feels like maybe if it's an audio thing and it's just a little person being like the wheels on the bus go around right maybe that maybe that could be perceived as like uh weird but yeah please tell me he's just like please tell me who you are which um yeah i don't know i mean i'll see i'm not going to judge it too hard you know i'm not going to i'm not going to do it but i will say i do like the idea of uh just a conversation just randomly starting again a couple
Starting point is 00:12:07 months later and also be so direct by being like hey let's go to this trail again this weekend whatever and it's just like who who is this because at this point too it's like why would susan keep doing this and not respond right yeah it's like it's even if it is the mother having access this is a really weird behavior to text your dead daughter's like girlfriend after he after she's been dead or your dead daughter's boyfriend after she's been dead for over a year yeah it is In his description for that screenshot, he says, I'd received confirmation from Susan that she hadn't logged into Em's Facebook
Starting point is 00:12:43 since the week of her death. M knew a lot of people, so I instantly assumed this was one of her more tech-savvy friends, messing with me in the worst possible way. I noticed pretty much immediately that whoever was chatting with me was recycling old messages from M and mine's shared chat history. And then he has a screenshot
Starting point is 00:13:05 where you can see that, the message let's hit up the trail this Sunday is from an old message that she sent back in March of 2012 so it seems like whoever is messaging him is using recycled stuff from their previous conversation. The Wheels on the bus comment was from when
Starting point is 00:13:20 we were discussing songs to play on a road trip that never eventuated. Hello happened a million times. Hmm. That is kind of interesting because I don't know. Now it comes into a situation too where it's just like this is like a sadistic prank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Because having the justification that he's like, oh, I'm going to copy this message and just see. And then it does have an exact result and stuff. But what's weird, though, is with that, he doesn't specifically say that the Wheels on the Bus comment that they said, that that was specified in the conversation, right? So that could have been a personal discussion they had. I feel like he probably would have had another screenshot if he had that kind of thing. So it feels odd that that person would also know about that conversation. Once again, it could be a close friend, but it just feels odd. That part feels a bit weird to me.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah. Yeah, there's extra, like, we're getting drip-fed more strange details, but different options become more and more, like, hard to believe as the story goes on. It goes from like, oh, maybe it's her mom to maybe it's someone messing with me, and now it's getting like, you'll see, you'll see as we keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, do you want to get this one? Yeah, yeah, I'll do this.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So around 2014, Emily started. tagging herself in my photos. I would get notifications for them, but the tag would generally always be removed by the time I got to it. The first time I actually caught one, it felt like someone had punched me in the gut. She would tag herself in spaces where it was plausible for her to be or where she would usually hang out. I've got screenshots of two from April and June. These are the only ones I've caught, so they're a little out of the timeline I'm trying to write out. And then he includes two screenshots. So it's a face. Facebook post, and again, whoever this user is on Emily's account, is tagging herself
Starting point is 00:15:10 in his images in just these blank spots where, as he said, someone might be, but they aren't. Also, just side note. All right. What, what? Go ahead. I mean, are you looking at this image? What? Which one?
Starting point is 00:15:25 The first one? The screenshot he put. So it's like the selfie with the face blacked out and then like the comments on the door back there. The door with the, with the. the face. Okay, so the face is not where the tag is. I was looking at this trying to wonder if it's saying that's Emily that that face over there is her or if that's just like a thing in the back. It's clearly creepy. Like it's supposed to be creepy, whatever it is, right? Right. It's supposed to be
Starting point is 00:15:50 something to best with you. I don't know if because the text box is off of it, if it's saying that is or she's it. I also don't know how Facebook works. I've never had it. So if the box is right there, does that mean they're specifically tagging that one spot like an Instagram tag? Yeah, I mean, you have to, like, consciously choose a spot. So it could be something where it's like, I mean, I'm almost reading this as almost as if, like, she's in, like, maybe like a spiritual form there. And then maybe is that supposed to be like, I don't know, this JPEG creepy face in the darkness. It's supposed to be like a demon or something or like some kind of entity that's like with her or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Because if not, I mean, to be fair, I think, I wonder if the author of this also realizes, like, if I put this tag box on. this, like, compressed image. That might be a bridge too far. Yeah, like, it's like, I'm really playing with fire here. But if I scoot the tag box over a few inches. Yeah, now it's a mystery. Now a conversation's happened. Now it's nuanced storytelling.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm doing subversing the norm. And then in the other one, it's literally just like him on a couch next to a tag box. but basically this Emily person whoever is controlling the account keeps tagging herself in his photos
Starting point is 00:17:10 and if you want to take it from there the rest of that section which I will say in the second photo where it's just him in the tag whatever I mean like to me this is like this is more this is way more creepy
Starting point is 00:17:23 it works better the idea of just like it's a very casual thing and it's like oh I'm sitting here next to you to me even if someone was messed with me I'd be like this is this is pretty fucked up Like, what is going on? Why would someone do this? It feels just, yeah, sadistic.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Which he goes on to say, around this period of time, I stopped being able to sleep. I was too hungry and angry to sleep. She would tag herself in random photos every couple of weeks. The friends who noticed and said something thought it was fucked up. Thought it was a fucked up bug. I found out recently, sorry about that. No, no, no. I'm laughing because it sounds like it sounds like it's a bug that looks weird, like a physical bug.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah, it's probably just like a moth. Yeah, you don't have to worry about it, Nathan. You're freaking out, man. Hey, man, you ever consider it's just a bug? You got, like, bugs in your house? It's probably just a ladybug or like a fire ant. Don't even worry about it. I found out recently that there have been friends who have noticed and didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Some of them have removed me from their Facebook's friends list. Oh, wow. So because they see some of these tag things, they're probably assuming that he's the one doing it, and they're probably like, okay, he's going off the deep end. Yeah. You know what I mean? Of course, yeah. Well, I mean, like, you know a guy, and then he starts posting pictures and his dead girlfriends tagged in him.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Who would you assume is doing it, you know? I also, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to dog pile on this guy. But even before he gets into this, I mean, he's talking about, like, his girlfriend smells like cinnamon, she has chimpanzee feed. I bet it was not hard to press that unfollow button. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, I really miss my girlfriend or long-ass toes.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Think what he was saying to her when she was alive, right? If Widgey's dad, he's like, yeah, she got like chip feet. I bet he was saying some wild stuff to her while she was around. Oh my God, M, your breath smells like pizza rolls. It's like, okay, cool. Does your boyfriend have to be here? She's like, yeah. He went to her funeral the same way Kyle went to Kimber's mom's funeral.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I am under the same impression that this is the same universe and they were best friends. Yep, absolutely. Same guy. Written out of the story because they're like, it's too much. Yeah, listening to Lincoln Park way too loud. Yeah. Breaking the habit over and over again. He just keeps asking for more and more gum. Yo, can I get another piece of juicy fruit?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Hell yeah, man. Open up the glove compartment. Get yourself some. Yep. As you just dive live on hair. I feel like a lung's going to fly up here in a second. So that'll be cool if that happens. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:19:53 That would be so intense if you actually coughed up an organ. If I died on camera, yeah, that would be pretty much. No, no, no, no. I don't want you to die I'm just saying if you coughed up a little piece of your lung
Starting point is 00:20:04 because here's we record this and I cannot see him so if something does horrible happen I'm gonna be like okay come on buddy
Starting point is 00:20:10 and it's just like a murder scene over there and I'm like all right I'm gonna I'm gonna go get like fake blood and stuff
Starting point is 00:20:16 and start like pouring it out of my mouth and then like whenever you go back and watch this recording you'll be like oh my gosh yeah
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm gonna watch the edit and be like oh god he's dead and I killed him it's my fault I'm sorry I see. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Which he goes on to say, at this point, some of you may be wondering why I didn't just kill my Facebook profile. I wish I had. I did for a little while. On days when I can't get out there, though, it's nice having my friends available to chat. It's nice visiting M's page when the little green circle
Starting point is 00:20:48 isn't next to her name. I was already socially reclusive when M was alive. Oh, no way. Her death turned me into something pretty close to a hermit. And Facebook and MMOs were and are my only real social outlets. Oh, God. You know, I could have guessed that.
Starting point is 00:21:03 This guy is just, he's digging himself a hole. I could have guessed that. He's like, you know, it must be kind of weird, but I'm a bit of a social recluse myself. And Facebook and World Warcraft are my only social outlets. God, I miss him so much. I hope it turns out the only reason this is happening is because, like, someone got mad when they found out he plays League of Legends. So they're like, I'm going to bully him. this guy.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, exactly. They find out they're like, oh my God, this guy, he's like a big league and World of Warcraft player. He's like, guilty as charged is what he says. And we do go on to March 15th. There's another screenshot. I am like in the eye, I am like, I'm not going to lie, scrolling through here and clicking the hyperlinks to open up the old chats.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. I like it. I love these interactive stories like that where there's little stuff. Like, sure, it may not be the best quality, but I'm having a good time. Yeah. No, is it, as an immersive and interactable experience?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like, it's fun. It's fun. It's almost like a choose-your-own-adventure thing, except it's already pre-chosen for you. But still, I feel like I have, like I'm like, okay, we'll open this file. Okay, well, this is odd. Well, Nathan, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Which, Nathan, on the March 15th, he says, I sent what I assumed was Em's Hacker a message, and he just put, why are you doing this? Why do you keep tagging her? So he just, he goes on the offense here. He's trying to ask the account, what's going on, right? And then on March the 25th, It says that he receives an answer.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So in the screenshot we have, Emily says, hello, and then hello, hello, hello, more times over the course of March the 25th. And Nathan eventually replies, this is actually devastating. I don't know why you enjoy doing this. Emily says, oh, and gee, cinnamon, sinned candles. No, no, cinnamon. Nathan says, go to hell. And Emily says, why are you doing this? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So, for one, the sentiment, I'm sure is a reference back, I mean, he'll probably explain a second, a reference back to the beginning, but the why are you doing this is a message that he sent. So now it's copying his messages as well. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Having someone just keep harassing you by saying hello is so simple, but it's actually horrifying. Yeah, if it's coming from like your dead girlfriend, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah, and especially I love the response of this is actually devastating. I don't know why you enjoyed doing this. And they just respond with like a quirky, cute answer. Like, I've said this word a million times, but it is completely sadistic, and it's just, like, maniacal at this point. Like, if it is a hacker, I mean, now it's like I'm almost even afraid of just the hacker. Not even the fact that it's like my girlfriend's, and I'm just like, this is just a weird, demented thing. And to be fair, by this point, would you, if you, this is like your social media profile and this was you, would you delete it already? Or would you try to, like, get down to who is doing this?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, let's see. If it was Windigoon, I'd probably keep it, because that. That's my income. Well, I mean, I'm saying that if you're regular, regular Joe Nathan. Sure. If this is just regular Isaiah's Facebook. I would want to know. I would have, because if I, if I delete it and never interact with it,
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'd spend the rest of my life like, who was that? What was happening? No, that's true. That's true. And I think there's something to be said too where it's like, wonder if it just depends on what day it is. If some days, if it's just like you're, you feel like you're peeling your skin off, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:22 It might just be easier to be like, I'm just not even going to look at it. Yeah. But then I feel like you're right. I feel like it's like a thorn in your side where you would be like, I think it would haunt you if you didn't continuously pursue it. Yeah. Yeah. And in his description for that previous screenshot, Nathan says, it wasn't until I was going over these logs a few months later that I noticed she was recycling my own words as well.
Starting point is 00:24:45 My response seems kind of lackluster here. I was intentionally providing him or her with emotional bait. This is actually devastating to keep them interested in their game. I was working off the assumption that the kind of person to do this would be the kind of person that would thrive on the distress of others. I was posting in tech forums, looking for ways to track this person, contacting Facebook. I needed to keep them around so I could gather evidence. Before anyone asks, yes, I had changed the password and all security info countless times.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So now he's in the same boat of what we're talking about, like, I have to figure out who this is. So even his response of like, this is devastating. is just bait to keep this going. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the thing is, like, he's trying to set up a trap here. And, I mean, God, you're setting up a trap, right? But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:25:37 he's desperately trying to figure out what exactly is happening. It's happening. So it's almost like this desperate attempt of, like, trying to capture something that you have no, like, hopelessly and desperately trying to capture something. And it kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And also, he probably feels like he's going insane and he's even like even the last part here where he says before anyone asked yes i had changed the password insecurity info countless times so he's even trying to like stop people from like questioning possibly this insanity that he's following through this kind of like hyper fixation is like a little subtle sprinkle there that i like yeah which on the next one here on the 16th april he received this this is another hyper deal hyper chain emily uh sent a message on 25th at 254 saying Why are you doing this, which is from the deal before? No.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And then on the 16th of April at 12.17 a.m., so pretty much midnight, she responded again, or the count responded and said, we should make our own jam. JFC, Samantha. Nah, different. No chance of passing. No chance of passing. How many? Garage side door. Side.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I. No chance of passing. you know that's actually the first section that's kind of got me a little bit yeah the idea of like this girl dies and then it's like sections from previous conversations but it's like the thing that sending them doesn't understand what they mean so it just keeps rescinding them over and over it's really that's kind of a haunting part i like that that's a good it's pretty good i do too i mean it was the idea too i said earlier where like i really like the idea of just the simple hello approach it's like a inhuman thing mimicking a
Starting point is 00:27:22 human conversation, but recycling conversations in random order. Like, it doesn't know how to actually formulate these thoughts or these, like, conscious conversations. It's kind of weird. His description to that was, this seems like a word salad, like all of our conversations so far, it's recycled from previous messages she sent. On the 29th of April, open up another one here. On 29th, she says, bake beans on toast.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Which now it seems like these are all happening around midnight. I'm trying to keep, I'm also trying to keep a tally on what time, if there's any correlation with like weird, you know, because people usually say like ghost stuff or like the witching hours, like 3.30 and that kind of stuff. So I'm trying to see if it's correlating with that at all. But at 1220, I believe it's going to be midnight. It doesn't say a.m. or p.m. But it says, baked beans on toast. I don't know. I just said, yo, ask Nathan.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And then it says, Nathan, Nathan, Nathan. and then Nathan responds about 20 minutes later and says I don't know what's happening I don't know how you're still doing this please stop and then she responds almost immediately and says please stop I don't know what's happening Nathan I don't know what's happening
Starting point is 00:28:33 which is pretty that's actually pretty haunting that's pretty good that's pretty good yeah I'm so back I'm in I'm into it yeah that that got me I love the idea too of like you asking a question and then now whenever the person repeats it it takes on a completely new name yeah that's that's fun the idea of like i think the implication i'm getting is that whatever
Starting point is 00:28:53 sending these messages is trying to learn how emily would speak or learn what the words mean so it's like that's why it keeps reusing old messages to see if it gets the same response and as soon as nathan responds it's it looks like it's starting to put ideas together i don't know what's happening nathan i don't know what's happening using your dead girlfriend oh that's so good it's like a it's like a digital skin walker almost yeah i mean here here's a question I want to ask you. Is there any way where this could be interpreted as her spirit? And like whenever if your spirit goes on or something like that, could it try re-contacting you but not be able to like almost like her, like almost like her essence
Starting point is 00:29:33 or spirit is trying to relearn as well? Like it is her trying to contact him and it's using her own conversations with him to come back. Yeah. Yeah. There was, uh, there was one culture. I can't remember who it was. It may have just been in some like mysticism related to Christianity or whatever, anyway, there's this belief that when someone dies, they become a ghost that has no memories of their life. So the ghost has to learn everything again, as if it's a toddler, fully grown up. And that supposedly one of the reasons that at haunted locations, you'll see stuff move, or like say it in the bedroom of someone who died, you'll see like stuff in there get shifted around, it's because the ghost is trying to relearn its life and touching stuff to
Starting point is 00:30:13 see what, to see what it was or to see what it does. And I kind of get that. vibe from this. I mean, that's haunting within itself. Yeah. If like one of you pass and then you wake up
Starting point is 00:30:24 and you have no memory, it's horribly sad. Yeah. It also makes me think to if somebody is, if they did start and they had no conscious, like no recollection of before, but then something even more haunting I'm thinking is
Starting point is 00:30:36 if she slowly begins to realize where she is and then that's the deal of like, I don't know what's happening. Is somebody coming back to realization, but feeling like they're in a different plane of existence as a other person feels kind of creepy too. just kind of like being in the in and out which to get back to it
Starting point is 00:30:51 his description for this one is I haven't discovered any leads Facebook had told me the locations her page had been accessed from but since her death they're all places I can account for my home, my work her mom's house okay we know where we know exactly where we are
Starting point is 00:31:06 boo! Bo get them out of here boo! Boos British people! Yuck! My response here wasn't bait. Yo asked Nathan was an end joke too lame worth explaining but seeing her say it again just absolutely crippled me my reaction in real life was much less prettier i'm not expecting my bond back her last few messages her last few messages has started to scare me but i wouldn't admit it at this point so now you it's kind of weird is uh do you think it's kind of weird that by this point he's also saying like he's using the words like she instead of hacker and stuff yeah do you think he's buying into it a point that's a good point i didn't even catch Yeah, it's like he's, uh, he's starting to see her as Emily almost. That's, oh.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah. I don't, I don't know if he's completely bought in, but at the same time, I think that, like, in the, the look. Very nice. Well, I've, I've had many, many dead relatives message me before. I know exactly the signs to look for. I've walked these roads before. I know, I know the stories follow me. You don't even know how haunting my MySpace messages were with dead family members. That explains a lot. Well-versed. That explains a lot, honestly. I distinctly remember watching, I think my first introduction to you was the Ed Adenetti video about the gunball.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And I was like, whoever made this had to be an absolute psychopath. And you know what? I was right. Years of having a MySpace page with mudvane songs being the entering page whenever you showed up. Did not cater to my well-being, I don't think. Oh, my gosh. Did you have an insane clown posse song on there at one point? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I never got into insane clown posse. I had too much pride. That is to say, too, if we do have any juggaloes in our fandom here, I just want to say, you're welcome, but I don't understand you. I don't know. You should want to keep the welcome part? We can tackle that one back. Okay, or maybe they're not welcome.
Starting point is 00:33:03 You're half. One of the co-host said you're welcome, so that's a half. It's a half. You know, they like bad music, and they, you know, they probably like meth. I mean, I don't know what I'm supposed to say. You know what, a different strokes for different folks. Okay, so the next screenshot is from the 8th of May, and he also gives the hyperlink the description that he doesn't really have words for this.
Starting point is 00:33:27 This is the following messages. Again, the first ones from this are on the 5th of May at around 1 p.m. 107 p.m. when Emily says, I, I, 12, 15, and then at 122, sends a string of messages that says, my jumper's in the dryer and it's really cold out really cold out cold cold Nathan please stop I cold freezing I don't know what's happening all right that's actually that's actually devastating that's actually pretty that's pretty creepy okay to make it even worse his description for that image says freezing is the first original word she's made oh true
Starting point is 00:34:17 very true oh that's so bad stuff it's like it's learning words but it's describing something awful this has given me nightmares that have only started to kick in recently I keep dreaming that she's in an ice cold car
Starting point is 00:34:31 frozen blue and gray and I'm standing outside in the wharf screaming at her to open the door she doesn't even realize I'm there sometimes her legs are outside with me oh bro I remember she died in a car accident Yeah, yeah, exactly
Starting point is 00:34:46 So he's picturing her soul stuck in the car Like in the cold weather Talking to him Yeah, I mean like in a frozen sarcophagus And he's on the outside On the outside, unable to help Those are always the worst dreams too, dude
Starting point is 00:34:59 I don't know if you're having those dreams I've had dreams where like Something happens like a relative or whatever And you're like trying to like grab them or whatever Or like hit somebody And it's like you have no strength Those have to be the worst dreams I hate those
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah, when you're trying to do something And you can't you can't perform or like get something done i'll i'll have dreams for like i'm trying to lift something off of someone and even if it's something pretty easy to lift i just can't do it it's very it's very you wake up like like stressed out like you i always wake up really exhausted yeah yeah like you were fighting in your sleep yeah like i remember like one time i had this dream where i was running away from somebody who was like some kind of like entity that was chasing me it might have been something when i was younger where it might have been like, you know, a Jason Voorhees S character.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Not necessarily him, but like somebody who's like, oh, this guy's going to kill me kind of thing, right? And as I was running away, it just like, I was like, like, oh, like breathing really heavily. And I just, which would have been very much like real life. But I sat there and I, uh, like it was almost like all of my muscles were just like giving out and I was gassed. And when I woke up, I like my, my whole body was just like physically exhausted.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And I'm wondering if it's like when you're in those situations too, in those dreams, if you're like all of your muscles like contracting or, if you're like squeezing stuff or actively like you know you're like like moving or your muscles are gyrating in some kind of way who knows but it's i don't i hate those dreams it's the worst especially have nightmares where you're like you're watching something as very real as your girlfriend be trapped in a car and having all these things they would just be too much at what point i'd be like when am i going to get a break yeah i just want to sleep bro it's it's not worth it like there's
Starting point is 00:36:39 there's like a lot of nightmares I've had especially around like loved ones dying and stuff like that none that intense but something like that messes with people man oh 100% I mean
Starting point is 00:36:51 there's definitely psychological things that have ripples in your brain of your brain trying to process things and like not necessarily delete memories but it's like thoughts or whatever things that your brain is processing and then unfortunately it just it falls in the file cabinet of dreams
Starting point is 00:37:06 where it feels super real and horrifying so that's unfortunately just your brain working and what's kind of weird too so far to go back even talk about this a bit is like the time jumps and stuff there's something pretty torturous about like he gets about a week or two off now or something like maybe a month at most but now it's like he gets a week or two off he has to deal with the things that he's like he's trying to process stuff and then something just kind of like rears its head back and it's like hello here's another message i mean like it'd be torturous yeah there's no end you'd almost wish it would happen consecutively and then something, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:40 let it be done with. Instead, it's just like this very, it's like bloodletting or something. Slowly, slowly you're just seeping out from the inside. It just, it would suck. Yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm bivom it with it. This is better than I remember so far. I like the nuance. Yeah, what's weird
Starting point is 00:37:56 is it started kind of cheesy, but I'm getting, I'm invested now. Even in so much of just like just clicking the hyperlinks. It's like kind of like opening up documents like an CEP thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Threat levels or whatever. It's fun. It's a lot of fun. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. feeling like you're getting to snoop around something it's nice which on the 24th of May
Starting point is 00:38:11 we get another message from him and it says this at 2253 oh now we're going into like command he's gone into military time we're scaled up he's making this operation
Starting point is 00:38:24 which this would be like a 10 at night right yeah yeah no this is midnight 53 this is midnight 53 or sorry sorry I'm very stupid you're right this is 10503 Yeah, it's 10, 10, 10. I was looking down at Emily, sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hers is midnight seven. Yeah, I'm stupid. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like 1053, he says, I'm really drunk. I miss you. Whoever's on this account, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I keep coming home from work and expecting to see you at the computer. Shouldn't I be used? Shouldn't I be used to that by now? And then about two hours later, Emily, your messages and says, you let me walk. UST let me walk It made me trying to say just let me walk
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah or just let me talk is what I was thinking too Yeah yeah just let me walk Interesting, okay Just let me walk Hmm And I'm curious to see what his description is He said I was actually drunk Or I wasn't actually drunk
Starting point is 00:39:25 She wasn't an affectionate girl And it always embarrassed her to exchange I love you's cuddle And talk about how much we meant to each other She was more comfortable with it when I was boozed up I got fake drunk a lot poor guy
Starting point is 00:39:39 yeah that's pretty sad all right continue her reply yes I'm just like damn dude yeah that sucks man glad she's dead though am I right
Starting point is 00:39:47 up top you want to get not fake drunk together and like I don't know party or something her reply is what prompted me to finally memorialize memorize her page memorialize
Starting point is 00:39:57 oh my god you got it's fucking her reply is what prompted me to finally memorialize her page thinking it might help me curb this behavior It might seem innocuous compared to her previous message. It pasted from an old conversation where I was trying to convince her to let me drive her home from my friends.
Starting point is 00:40:13 In the collision, the dashboard had crushed her. She was severed in a diagonal line from her right hip to the midway down her left thigh. One of her legs was found tucked on the back seat. Oh, my God. Oh, no, no. I think I see what's going on here. So maybe, okay, so it says that there was a previous conversation and he was trying to convince her to let him drive her home right so maybe is it trying to assume that she was drunk that's what i think maybe
Starting point is 00:40:40 there was some like maybe she got drunk the night of the crash and says in the collision she was crushed she was severed in half uh and one of her legs was found tucked under the back seat and the message is from a time when he was trying to convince her to not drive drunk and the phrase is just let me walk bro oh oh just let me walk yeah her legs are gone but you don't you had to UN's interesting too, though, is it's, well, here's the thing. Is it, do you think, well, I don't know where the message could have come from, but having the J there feels like it's a typo of some kind? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:41:15 To where it's like somebody must be typing instead of a copy-paste situation again? Yeah, yeah. Well, he says it's from an old conversation when she was drunk and talking. So she was probably drunk and didn't put the J, like made a typo. So that was one of her messages from Beck whenever they were having this conversation where he was trying to convince her to let him drive. So, yeah, it's just coffee-pasting her message from back then. But now there's way too much sense to it.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He's describing being drunk, and she uses a message from when she was drunk, or when the real Emily was drunk, and it's specifically about walking, which, of course, as mentioned, she lost her legs in the accident. And then the next text of Lock 2 says, going back in time 7th of August 2012, I'm kind of interested here. Which on August 7th, he said, hey, you on your way home, question mark, Emily? then like maybe 20 minutes later he says when you see this message please ring me straight away
Starting point is 00:42:08 I rang blank and they said you left it four I'm starting to panic I feel sick in my stomach please ring me a couple hours go by Emily Emily answer your phone this is what she had the accident yeah yeah and it says these logs were from the day she died
Starting point is 00:42:27 she was usually home from work by 430 this alongside a couple of voicemail messages in the last time I talked to her under the assumption that she was alive. You'll see why I'm showing you these soon. This is the looks like the last one. It is. The hyperlink says, yesterday the 1st of July 2014.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And it says, oh, she messaged him. 1919, which that would have been 9. 919 at night. 7.7.19. Hey, on your way home. Emily, when you see these messages,
Starting point is 00:42:55 please ring me straight away. Please stop. I rang blank and they said, you left at five. I'm starting to panic. Please stop. cold emily
Starting point is 00:43:05 emily answer your phone i don't know what's happening cold freezing that was over the course of about an hour oh oh oh that's good
Starting point is 00:43:17 that's good that goes hard okay he says I memorialized her page a couple days after receiving the message about walking until today she'd been quiet
Starting point is 00:43:25 she wasn't even tagging herself in my photos I don't know what to do anymore do I kill her memorial page what if it's is her. I want to puke. I don't know what's happening. I just heard a Facebook alert. I'm too afraid to swap windows and check it. And that's where it ends. Sick. I like it. That was good. That was good. It's always really fascinating when something this short can be such a fun
Starting point is 00:43:49 captivating thing. And that's one thing I like about these short stories is using social media in a complex way. You don't see a lot of movies or like a lot of new narratives by like, I don't know traditional mediums like like i said like movies or something because usually they would take this and it would be like what the fuck is that movie that zoom call movie you know what unfriended yeah yeah and it's like the girl we bullied in school she's a ghost now and she's haunting us yeah yeah and it's like it's like that there's something really you know they've they've tried doing some stuff like this with messing with social media like i thought was uh it's that one with uh the guy who's trying to find his daughter i think it's just called missing
Starting point is 00:44:31 I think it might just be called missing. I can't remember. But he's like going through her Facebook and it's all kind of from the perspective of his computer and social media and stuff. But it's very effective. It's fun to see somebody who has clearly used this kind of thing and writing something that is for an audience of people on social media who use it in this way as well. And who could also comprehend that you can like make something fun and believable like this. It's just a lot of fun. And also to end it too on such a fun little moment where you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:44:59 What happened? And then you just don't know. kind of like Ted the caver. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of stops like right before, right before what would naturally be the conclusion point of a story. And here it's to build up the fear.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's a thing seen in a lot of, you know, classic horror stuff. What do you think the emphasis on cold and freezing is? Do you think it's just like death, the feeling of death? I think if I had to guess his whole dream of seeing her trapped in a car in like the freezing cold, I think her spirit's still out there,
Starting point is 00:45:28 just kind of like left outside in the cold, maybe maybe like proverbially inside of a car and she's freezing and she's trying to reach out to him to get him to help her but these communications is all she can get through what's so haunting about this too is the idea of not being able to help you know what I mean because this this spirit could be reaching out to them and trying to find like I think that part of the thing here is that the poster here um is like saying like you kind of by the end you kind of feel that they believe that it is her I know these I know the they say they're like you know what if it is her but i think that it's almost like reading in a way where someone's like wanting that validation of someone being like it probably is because you want it to
Starting point is 00:46:09 be real and it's that feeling too where it's like you just have no way of helping somebody or no way of communicating that with them especially if it's something where somebody's just resending messages almost as if they're accessing another computer and just pasting and copying and pasting. There is a screenshot so after this guy made the story he added an update to his page that is technically the
Starting point is 00:46:34 ending of the story. Oh really? It's like a one page thing I have to type in, I hate it here I have to type in the link. Let me send you the screenshot. Yeah I was going to say show me the screenshot. The image or question does not exist. Do not tell me this is
Starting point is 00:46:50 lost media. I will throw up. I will kill. I will do something painful right now don't you dare do not tell me these two images yeah we're trying to we have to we can't actually click the photos we have to actually type in the oh i found the post okay cool we're so back we're so back
Starting point is 00:47:12 you found it yeah i found it yeah yeah we're good we're so back all right this is his update let me copy the links oh i found it too yeah i found it okay the update where he says i check the alert Oh I don't like that Oh no Oh no That was the worst possible
Starting point is 00:47:32 Oh no Oh my gosh All right well I wish I didn't find that I want to I've only seen the one where it's just a computer I'm putting in the other one And then the message says freezing So this feels very threatening
Starting point is 00:47:45 And that's definitely so it's a zoom in again I'm guessing his window And that's his computer Yep Oh no oh no and then here the post says I checked the alert I heard it as I was compiling and editing the post
Starting point is 00:47:58 this is the message that's my door that's my computer it's taken from outside I got the message three hours ago but didn't check it until now I'm on my tablet in my garage
Starting point is 00:48:09 Zen for now going to drive to a friend forgot to open the garage door in my panic so building up the nerve to get out to do that now I should be scared I've occasionally opened a
Starting point is 00:48:18 I've occasionally opened a heart just fucked Just fucked up, it's very not me. She's more real to me in that state. What? I don't know. That last line is, hold on, hold on. Okay, so for one, those images are terrifying.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That just now, after he's cut it off to, like, not talk to it anymore, it's showing up outside of his house. Like, you can imagine, like, the gray, ghostly emaciated figure of his dead girlfriend right outside his door. This is, like, this is classic, like, creepypasta, right? This is, like, old school campfire. the hooked man was waiting at the door, you know? Like the OG kind of thing? I'm here for it. I like it. It is fun and it completely, you I hate, is I was like, what if it's a nice spirit?
Starting point is 00:49:06 You know what I mean? I'm kind of mad now. That's your fault. That's your fault. Emily, you, you, God, you deceptive woman. It feels like, or it's like who even knows if it's even her? Like, now I don't even know. I was so sure to you that it was Emily, but now it's like, if it is, then it's like, well, why, why is she punishing him or why is she coming after him like this? Because also, it's so crypted and creepy. And even now, okay, so let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Now, with these pictures of the photo, are you even, are you even thinking that this is a ghost anymore or do you think this is like a stalker? It could be a ghost. I don't think it's a stalker. I would, I would say maybe the story's leaning more towards like, she's like a ghoul, you know, like a monstrous. zombie almost thing. Not zombie in like the kid. Shut up. Not zombie in like the roaming dead sense. I mean like she's
Starting point is 00:49:59 like it's like the emaciated skeleton or something like that. Like there's some horrific figure standing just outside the door. Hmm. Hmm. I don't know. I don't know how I like that. What you mean boo? You don't like zombies? You don't like weird
Starting point is 00:50:15 zombie girlfriends? If your if your wife died, you wouldn't like it. If she was a zombie, I think that'd be pretty cool. I mean, I would love to have a wife zombie. Don't get me wrong. See? What did I say? I'm just saying that what feels weird is like it just doesn't feel like he deserves this kind of, like it would be different if the story preps you up and it's like, oh, you know, she always was abusive.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Like anything that made it seem like she would come get him. But at this point, it's like, well, why is she hunting him down? Right. if anything shouldn't this be like oh i'm like if this post was like i accidentally was drunk driving you know a couple years ago and i and i hit somebody and i've had to live with this shame forever and now it's like the person is coming back to get them for taking their life right but it's like it just feels like it's like okay well why the fuck are you messing with this guy then to me it feels even weirder if a person's like this person if it's like a stalker thing or not even like
Starting point is 00:51:13 just just a regular human being right but then they got access to your dead girlfriend's account and they've been fucking with you this whole time and now they're they're like reaching even further now and now they're taking pictures of you they know where you live also they would have to have some kind of communication with susan i would imagine to get this information so it's like where the fuck is susan during all this where is susan how do we know it's not susan sure she said it's not me how do we know that's possible what if it's susan what if hey what if the old boy what if the old bowl want some of the young calf Right? I always admired you.
Starting point is 00:51:50 You know, my daughter never appreciated you, Nathan. Right? Crazy old mom? Want a piece of Nathan? That's creepy. I mean, yeah, okay, maybe it is the mom. Maybe it's her stalking. Maybe she blames Nathan for doing it, hence the freezing thing and all that.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Maybe it is that. Or maybe her essence, her spirit, her existence in this realm, has been taken over by some evil entity. And maybe it's learning how she spoke. it's learning her communications with someone she was close to to try to find a way in. But why? Why do you think him? Well, I mean, like, if, okay, so if you, if you died, right?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. And a spirit was to fill in your spot in reality. Who is the closest person to you that it would begin to latch onto? Yeah, I mean, my wife for sure. Yeah, right. So I'm saying maybe Nathan was the closest thing it had to latch on to. Maybe that's why it's stalking him. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:45 So you're saying that it's just. using like a mask or like it's it's using this thing to communicate with him but it actually has nothing to do with his wife yes exactly that's that's a theory i have that's fine i mean i like that you know if she was more affectionate i don't even mind the idea of her of it's being if it's her and it's like her trying to come back to him but it's just perceived in a creepy way but it's just like he made it very very clear he makes it clear many times which is i want to know the intention of this that's like she is not affectionate at all and i'm wondering if they're if he's prepping that up to where it's like that's why it's so weird too that this person would come back
Starting point is 00:53:20 and is trying to talk to him in that way you know what I mean yeah closing down that that argument because you could have something where it's like the like a creepy thing where it's an undying love you know what I mean yeah even even that kind of uh that kind of bond between somebody we're together forever you know that can be kind of creepy that's also true I like the idea yeah I like that idea maybe maybe after death, you know, her spirit, or what's left of it, like the rotted remains of her spirit is still drawn to him. So are we under the impression, too, that this ghoul, that this entity has like a
Starting point is 00:53:58 Polaroid camera, and I just took a picture like an iPhone. Well, you know what? If you want to nitpick that hard, um, no, no, no, I'm not nitpicking. I'm just, I'm asking questions. I'm like, I'm not, I have learned, I have learned my lessons from the Russian sleep experiment. I am not nitpicking. I am just posing a question and I am thinking visually
Starting point is 00:54:17 of like an iPhone 4S floating around and taking a picture is that the case I need to know I'm just curious It could be Or maybe it's eyes or cameras
Starting point is 00:54:26 Hunter Have you ever considered that Maybe it's one with them All camera eyed goals An Apple ghoul Is that an Apple ghoul? It's an Apple goal For sure
Starting point is 00:54:34 The eye ghoul As it were You know what I don't hate any of the theories That you're saying I'm just saying In terms of like Trying to find
Starting point is 00:54:44 it's kind of like it's the shitty argument and it's the shitty thing you have to think about in like even found footage films which is like why are they still recording right right so with this it's like if there's a picture what the hell what are we doing here I love it it's a fun visual
Starting point is 00:55:00 it's creepy as shit whenever I'm sitting there but the more that I reflect on it the more I'm like well treat it this way treat it this way the story ended at the freezing line right at the last message that she sends him and then he adds the picture part later so that's like DLC. That's like extra lore.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, like if we never looked into it, because I kind of, I mean, here's the thing, let me ask you this. Do you like the ending being where we first had it? Or do you like it more with the picture? Admittedly, I like it more where we first had it. Admittedly. I think it works as a better jump scare to show a picture of his house, so to speak. But I think the more impactful ending is her just saying the words freezing. Because then the audience is left to imagine maybe it's her soul, maybe it's her body dead in the ground, or maybe it's her spirit out in the cold, or maybe, you know, something to that effect. Maybe that's what the freezing line means. It's more ambiguous, so therefore it lets you fill in more scary parts. It's showing up outside of his
Starting point is 00:55:55 house is much more mainstream, straightforward. I don't think it's as interesting, per se, but the original story ends with Emily's ghost saying freezing. The idea, too, of like, I mean, I was having fun theorizing what kind of context this is, you know, because it never does. answer you if it's the hacker or if it is emily and then the idea too of it's like trying like i was having fun formulating ideas with you about like is it somebody reaching out like even you saying like sometimes people say that like you know ghosts are touching they're like their consciousness resets and they have to go and they're like touching and trying to like find out basically who they are again that's all good and fun and i you know the visual of this is super creepy but i it leaves me
Starting point is 00:56:41 with more questions where I'm like, what? You know? It's a great haunting image, but I almost like it before the picture. I almost like this more before the picture. Because I feel like also we get so many, so many, like, fun text logs and clicking and stuff like that. It almost makes me wish that if you were going to introduce the picture thing,
Starting point is 00:57:02 maybe introduce, like, you know, I think something, not that I think something's looking at me, but do you think that there should have been like some kind of picture before that? instead of screenshots, you know what I mean? Maybe some little thing. Yeah. I think somebody's looking at me or something, right? He's taking a picture from his desk.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I continue to think someone's looking at me. If this was a longer story, then I think there's a lot more you could do to flesh it out. Absolutely. I think so. So I also have something interesting. So that posts that we didn't understand what it means, the one that's like, I should be scared. I've occasionally opened a heart, that whole thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It turns out someone went through. Someone named Holly Yo What Up. Thank you, Holly. Went through all of his replies on that post. And the phrases he says there is a conglomeration of everything he said in the previous messages in other replies. So that last message that doesn't make sense where he's like, it's very not me. She's more real to me in that state. That is a word salad of things he said.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So it's implying that whatever spirit got her has now gotten him. not got him that's fun yeah yeah that's a cute yeah i like that especially the idea of like the first two things are so cohesive that it kind of seems like it got him mid typing yeah yeah you know you know i mean like it got him while he was like yeah i'm in my garage blah blah blah and then as he was doing that boom you know yeah that's pretty good that's that's a fun ending that he sends a bunch of replies to his original post and then one final message is like a conclusion of that implying that he was taken by the same spirit as well that's pretty good i almost kind of wish here too if i had to say it wish that the last links instead of being the picture if it was
Starting point is 00:58:51 something where it was like a like something where you clicked it and even when he uploaded it was initially it meant to be like this file has been deleted or like it was scrambled or something to where it's like you're like what what was that thing that he posted before you know what what's missing from this thing yep um but i do think that it is some kind of entity or something i mean i'm already forgetting that the beginning of this there's really the only the only actual complaint i have with this whole thing is um just the first image with like the the tag box thing and then like the jpeg so someone did this hold on let me copy paste it for you i was scrolling through his replies on it to see what he said i copy pasted the same thing twice i'm stupid okay hold on um
Starting point is 00:59:31 this right here someone was in the replies they brightened the image and said that it looks like a girl's outfit so the thing the like line around the waist has a heart in the middle of it so it kind of looks like a belt with a heart and then the two like bright things on top are like they look like shoulders uh and there is a portion in one of his replies where he says uh i have no idea with that hold on let me find his specific message about it uh he left one of the replies. He said, ha ha, I thought that might, this is after someone asked a question saying what was that thing in the picture. He says, ha ha, I thought that might generate some questions. I'm fairly sure it's the flash reflection of my bathroom vanity. Weird reflection, though, been trying
Starting point is 01:00:19 to recreate with no luck. Scratch that, the vanity is set back further than that. Angle doesn't make sense. I didn't notice it until I was uploading it today. Edit. Been trying to recreate since I saw this comment. Taking pictures from every angle. Same lighting conditions, same phone, no dice. To be honest, I was kind of hoping you guys would dismiss it as nothing. I'm not sure if I'm just hypersensitive at the moment or what, but I'm starting to get freaked out. Is this before, so this is the original poster commenting this, correct? Yes, correct. So is this before or after that last post? Uh, the, okay, so this entire account, Nate SW is just dedicated to the short story. So he makes the original post and then he makes all
Starting point is 01:01:01 of these replies like within a couple days of each other. with his final reply being the conglomeration one, the one that's like, I should be scared, I've occasionally opened a heart, that whole thing. Oh, good for it. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, so this, he said that about the thing in the mirror
Starting point is 01:01:16 before he gave the final message that implies he died. His second to last message was the one with the pictures that shows his own bedroom. Yeah, the update. Yeah, so he's post that, and then it's the word salad one. So whatever was outside of his window got him, basically. I really love the idea of this count being dedicated to this one thing and to have the interactive thing.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I mean, to be one of the commenters on this and then to get the person to respond to it, it's such a fun, it's just so, it's such a fun, immersive experience. And also good for them for also ending it completely with that last post. Very sick. I mean, like super, super fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Like I said, this is one of the internet campfire story, so to speak. I remember friends sitting around talking about it, and they'd make jokes like, freezing, like, they'd say it in the goat man voice or whatever. Like, I remember, like, being out of sleepover and a group of guys were telling this story, and I'm sure we got most of the details wrong, but I remember my friend going, the messages just kept saying, freezing, freezing, and I remember, like, everyone getting freaked out over that.
Starting point is 01:02:25 It's fun. Like I said, it's like a campfire story. I like it a lot. Yeah, yeah, very. It would be fun to be people also in the earlier day. of, you know, it says that this was post like 10 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:37 When this first came out, sending this link to each other and being like, did you, dude, read this. You know, like, and seeing it, people interact with it
Starting point is 01:02:44 and the poster interacting with it too. It's such a fun way to utilize the internet. I also want to say to keep, I keep fixating on this, the brightened image of this thing with the heart, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:53 with the vanity and stuff. The two little things are supposed to be the shoulders. It looks like two hands flipping off the camera. Oh, interesting. It's what I see. It's what I say.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That's actually, well, remember he describes, being very sarcastic, not lovey-d-dovey, stuff like that. Maybe this was an image of her at some point that's been burned into the photo or something like that. The bell thing, the very, the extremely clear heart, though, is what's confusing, though.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Especially, and then the last post, he says, I should be scared, I have occasionally open to heart. I should be scared. I've occasionally open to heart. just fucked up it's very not me I don't know why the heart line do you think that that seems too serendipitous I mean what does that even
Starting point is 01:03:43 so what I think that is I've been curiously open to heart I think once again that's a word salad because again Holly went through all of his replies and found where he said those words and in response to someone sending that brightened image of what you say as a girl flipping off the camera or whatever
Starting point is 01:03:58 in his reply to that he says I don't really own anything with a heart on it and no one was over that night. That's definitely heart-like, though, really weird. And then, so that's where you get the phrase in there where he says, a heart. There's another part where he says, she's more real to me. There's a part where he says it's very not me. So, again, I think that last sentence, it's the same entity trying to put something together using his words. Now, does he put anything together with those words?
Starting point is 01:04:26 I should be scared. I've occasionally opened a heart. It's very not me in that state. I don't know. I don't know if there's anything you can make out of that. That's like the, the end. making sense of what he's saying. But I think that's what it's trying to do there. It's not me. Just fucked up, it's very not me. She's more real to me in that state. Just fucked up, that's not me in that state.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. I like that the way it ends there, though. I think that's nice. I mean, like, you know, I said my things about the picture or whatever. But I think all in all, for being such a fun thing and to have an account that's solely dedicated to this, that's posting on the r slash no sleep i mean how fun is that i mean like in terms of creepy pasta
Starting point is 01:05:09 in terms of like spooky stories online this is just like this is super fun i i hope that there's more of this like i haven't i'm not even it's going to say that i'm like uh super well-versed and creepy pasta stuff but i hope there's more of this kind of stuff you know people um creating their own evidence people being able to like use the idea of an of an anonymous poster online to make it actually feel believable, you know? And have it be just a fun little goose chase. I love that. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:38 It's fun. I like it. And also a nice palate cleanser to last week. Can I just, can I say that? It sure is. It's, uh, this whole like my girlfriend's dead and freeze in a death in a car because she died in a drunk driving accident. Way better than last week.
Starting point is 01:05:52 It's like a piece of, uh, ginger at a sushi bar. It's just, it just clears your ride out, makes you feel better. I can quit being sick now that you all have. I've paid my penance. I'm done. Okay. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You're mad because I made you read about human farming. All right. Understandably so. But I gave you this story this week. This was my pick. Thank you very much. I gave you this story that was about a woman dying in a drunk driving accident. So I think we're all square now.
Starting point is 01:06:21 With a very happy, cheery story like that, I think we're on the same page. I do want to say the aspect that you did, you suggested, Barasca and stuff and then I checked Red Thread and then you guys did Epstein you did Epstein's list
Starting point is 01:06:36 I was like holy shit people are gonna be in a for a fucking yeah I did have that thought that we were talking about Epstein
Starting point is 01:06:44 Barasca it's surreal I saw many people be like you're going from Red Thread yeah you poor dogs you poor people
Starting point is 01:06:52 going going from Creakas Barasca part two to Epstein's list on Red Thread was a surreal experience I saw
Starting point is 01:06:59 many of those comments I was like these poor these poor, poor people. Yeah, but what are you going to do? Not watch. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Exactly. You did it anyway. Nerds, geeks. Nerds. Yeah, what are you going to do? Quit watching? That's what I thought. So you're going to stay here.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You're going to listen to these stories of women dying in car accidents and you're going to like it. All right? Because that's how this works. There won't be a lot of human trafficking one. I can promise you that. For a few episodes. For a few episodes.
Starting point is 01:07:29 We'll give it one more episode and then we'll die. back into that subject. Yeah, because I've got I've got them lined up. You thought Varasca was bad? I got like, I got like meat farm stuff ready to go. It was a haunting haunting message when he sent me the list of stories that were reading and I was like, I was like, really? Do we have to
Starting point is 01:07:45 read these? And he said, yes. I'm like, shut up. Shut up, Hunter, you're going to like it. You're going to eat your food and you're going to get through it. And then he coughed directly in my face. Right, my face. Just like that. Just like that. That's what I did. And I said, we're reading. You're going to get on the call and we're going to read about the drunk driving
Starting point is 01:08:03 freaky pasta and you know what? You're going to smile through it. You're going to like it. And here we are saying you all are going to watch these videos and you're going to like you. You have no option. Well I will say you know what? This is one of our quicker ones. This is a short story but we thought it was
Starting point is 01:08:19 fun to do a nice quick pallet cleanser for you all. So we hope you enjoyed this one. Also we've been taking your suggestions below so we do have some of some suggestions, viewer suggestions that we're getting ready to read moving forward. So if you can, be sure to comment stories that you think that we'd like
Starting point is 01:08:35 or stories that you think are kind of funny or whatever, and we'll be sure to put them on the list. And then I'm going to read through them and pick the ones that are the most terrible and will emotionally and mentally damage to most people possible. No, no, no. That's the only factor. Now we're just trying to find stories that are supposed to emotionally and mentally to scar you.
Starting point is 01:08:58 This is not a fun podcast anymore. This is going to be. something where we get to trauma dump. Trauma dump podcast is what's going to be called now. And I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. It's this new thing I'm cooking up called PTSD. It stands for podcast, trauma, something disorder. Love that.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I like that. I love that the S is something. Yep, yep. Well, you know what? Maybe when I'm off cold medicine hunter, I'll think of a better one right now. The creativity on this podcast flows like wine. What are we going to make this podcast about creepy things called? Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:09:32 We're going to call a Creepcast. Perfect, dude. Easy brand. You know what? That's good branding, dude. Good branding. And you know what? And you know what? It's working.
Starting point is 01:09:41 They're here. They're listening to it. They are here. So that's their fault, if you think about it. They should, if they want better from us, then they should act like it. But until then, you're getting Creepcast and you're getting women dying in car accidents. And you know what? We appreciate you all showing up and being so supportive.
Starting point is 01:09:56 The fan base has been fucking amazing. So just wanted to say that again. We really appreciate you showing up. And until, you know, next time, Isaiah will be much, much healthier, we can promise you that. Unless I pick another bad story in which God's going to keep punishing me. It will be an angelic punishment every time. And I'm here for it. You know, I'm glad.
Starting point is 01:10:15 If I'm sick one week, that means it's going to be a good episode. Yeah, exactly. You know it's going to be an easy episode if he would be sick. So, well, until next time, we appreciate you all for stopping by and stay creepy. Is that a good tagline? Can we make that a thing? Well, I mean, like, creepy has a lot of meanings. It could mean, like, be, like, a stalker or something.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Like, I stay creepy in any way that you feel fit. Yeah, yeah. You're right. We should lean into it more. If that's creepy on your coworkers, if that's creepy on, you know, various, like, bastard eyes in public, then stay creepy. There's really, there's really no way to have, like, a fun, cute way. It's like, stay spooky.
Starting point is 01:10:53 It's like, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah. stay creepy stay creeped does that make sense be sure yeah stay creeped stay creeped
Starting point is 01:11:05 that's good stay creeped stay creeped be sure to breathe drink water and eat food that's gonna be our new both of those both of those two are less likely to bring us into a lawsuit so I like stay creeped
Starting point is 01:11:17 yeah stay creeped all right stay creeped everyone bye bye bye bye thank you for coming here bye bye Thank you.

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