CreepCast - Ratking | Creep Cast

Episode Date: February 22, 2026

Thisjn grab bag episode asks the question: what would you give up to protect the ones you love? Featuring stories from authors Max Voynich and Dopabeane, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaph...one.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 I'm back to Creepcast. Today we are doing a grab bag. We haven't done that in a while, but it's going to be a fun grab bag because we are reading an author that we've never read, and then we are coming back to an author that we love their story.
Starting point is 00:00:28 The first author, or Isaiah, you take the authors. So the authors we've got today, we're going to have two stories from Max Voynich. I believe that name's in reference to the Voynich manuscript, which very cool.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Max Voynich seems to have posted a lot in No Sleep. like five to ten years ago. But it looks like he hasn't posted anything in six years. He has enough of a following that there is an R slash Max Voinich subreddit that people seem pretty hype about. But he has looking on that subreddit, they have a bunch of his standalone stories put up. He has two of the stories we're going to be reading today, which include the Rat King.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And if we misbehaved, we had to say. stand in the shed. In addition to that, he has a ton of other cool titled stories like, Help, I'm Trapped in a sitcom as well as one titled Sex Cannibal Psycho Freak Killer, which sounds like the kind of story you'd be interested in,
Starting point is 00:01:29 Hunter. No, no, no. Then after we get done reading him, we're going to have a story from an author. We've all come to know and love Dopa Bean. And we love Toba Bean, because they wrote the incredible story. What, what was the correct title for it. The dead girl
Starting point is 00:01:46 in my yard was the best friend I ever had. Yeah. What about like the wind ago thing in the backyard that like tried to lure him in? That one. So that's where he was sick. So today we're going to be reading their story. They told me I was nothing but a dog. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Pretty stoked. All the titles. I mean, Max's story is Rat King. It's just awesome. Love that. And then also even just the full title of his story is if we misbehaved as children, we had to stand in the shed. something else stood with us. So just two fun ideas,
Starting point is 00:02:18 but we haven't done to grab bag in a bit, so it'll be fun to read some shorter stories and see if in the future, if we can't, maybe Max is a longer story that we can dive into. But for all of our wonderful audio listeners, thank you for listening on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Thank you for giving us a nice rating there. You know, one of these days, we're going to be number one on Spotify, boys. We've gotten, I think the highest we've ever gotten is two. And then one of these days. No, we hit one. We hit one for a couple days, remember?
Starting point is 00:02:46 That we'll get back there. We need to be up there. I think right now we're in the 40s. We need to this is like this is a war cry to everyone to rush over there and listen to that episode. Listen to this episode on Spotify and help us out to be good. Or just keep watching on YouTube. I don't really give a shit. And thank you to patrons as well.
Starting point is 00:03:08 All of our Patreon members have been getting some live streams, new episodes and just exclusive of episodes and stuff. Isaiah also is doing a reaction to the episode that I read. He's going to give it a nice critique. So looking forward to. Which I know nothing about yet at the time of recording. So they'll be great. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You'll love it. You'll love it. I'm sure he doesn't say anything offensive or anything that I would object to or put my foot in about. No, no, no, no, no, definitely not. And so thank you for our patron members who are supporting the channel as well. So if you want some free content or if you want some extra content, be sure to head over to Patreon and check out our creepcast Patreon.
Starting point is 00:03:46 All right. Without further ado, let's get into Rat King. I will, I will say real quick while looking at Dopa Bean's account, so dopa beans Reddit account actually got deleted. And I'm seeing a post by a friend of theirs explaining that it got permanently deleted. So they're trying to figure out where to go from here. So we'll link some of Dopa Bean's other stuff in the description. They have that series, the North American. Pantheon, which we talked about before,
Starting point is 00:04:16 seems kind of like SCP adjacent with like a society that keeps track of supernatural entities. And there's a subreddit for that where like some new links have been put. So we'll link that subreddit. I think
Starting point is 00:04:31 oh, do they make a new account? I think they made a new account. Dopa beans. So that's clever to get around the Dopa Bean brand. We'll be, we'll be sure to link that. We'll link that.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And they also have a sub stack that has a bunch of their stories compile stuff. We'll have a bunch of places to support them because that's got to be rough to build up this much of a following around writing on Reddit and then Reddit's just like, no, no, bye bye. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So we'll have a bunch of places that you can support them linked below and please do that because they're a fantastic author. They deserve it. All right. So anyway, without further ado, we're going to be getting into the first story, Rat King from Max Voynich. Hunter, are you ready? Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Let's do it. Rat king. A collection of rats whose tails are intertwined and bound together by one of several possible mechanisms, such as entangling material like hair or sticky substances like sap or gum or getting tied together. Have you ever seen a rat king before? Yeah, it's horrifying. It's pretty brutal. Seeing all their tails just like basically woven together.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And they're all trying to run and tear in different directions. Yeah, they're all running in different directions. And it's the high pitch squealing and stuff. It's horrifying. Yeah. Have you done? I feel like you had an animation that had something to do with a rat king. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's like there was some visual of like people tied together trying to run away. Something. I'm not sure. I don't think so. I could be wrong. I don't know. Too long. Oh, funny.
Starting point is 00:06:11 No, speaking of your animations. our Patreon editor and like my editor, Caitlin, was over at my place. And I was like, oh, have you seen Hunter's short he didn't? She was like, no. So I showed her your meat canyon short, you know, the live action. And midway through, she was like, is he okay? Okay. You know what?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Fired. You like this all the time. You know what? Fucking fire, dude. All right. Yeah. That's reasonable. if any employee criticizes you in the slightest.
Starting point is 00:06:45 That's, well, that's what it has to be. You have to realize you have to rule with an iron fist, Isaiah. You don't understand. That doesn't work for me because her included, every editor I have despises me and constantly uses their platform to find ways to destroy my reputation. Did I tell you what Nate did? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Don't let him edit this part because he'll edit it out. I was talking to Nate and he was like, Isaiah, have a confess. Nate, for those of you that don't know, edits a creepcast a lot. He also edits a lot of Windygoon stuff. He was like, I have a confession. And I'm like, what? He says, in most of your videos for the past year,
Starting point is 00:07:25 I will add a very subtle and very quiet fart reverb sound effect. Fart? Reverb sound effect? Yes, just enough to sound like I farted loudly. But it's not like, it's not like
Starting point is 00:07:40 an obvious sound by, it's like just subtle enough to where it's like, oh, did he do that? And I remember that one time I was listening back to a video after it was posted to YouTube. And I heard that and thought I did it. So for the past year, I've been paranoid every time I'm recording that I'm going to fart too loud for it to be heard. And it turns out it was all a sciop by him because he thinks it'd be funny if it sounded like I farted. That goes to show how welcoming your community is, though. If you're just shitting your pants all the time and no one cares.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And if there's no, there's no outcry of like Isaiah, my God, but it's not like a loud sound effect everyone would hear. It's just enough that if it's quiet while you're listening to the video, you're like, did a maybe, I don't know. Like it's, it's just the idea that I did. We welcome. We welcome people shitting their pants. That's what we welcome.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Okay. My point is my editors try to effectively kill me with like these Tom and Jerry contraptions with like, you know, like making me look stupid and stuff like that. So I think Caitlin's allowed to say that you're not okay because she's right. Well, that's that's you. And that's this is me and fired. So it still stands. Me or her? I don't think you can fire.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It almost be both. It's almost both. I don't think you can fire me. I don't think you don't employ me anywhere. You don't employ me anywhere. You can delete the channel, I think. You could sink the boat to kill both of us if you really wanted to. I will do what must be done.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I will do what must be done and I don't want to be tested. Okay. I'll keep that in mind. So, yeah, Rat King. The first time he coughs like that, we're halfway through a game. It's wet and rasping and he doubles over as he tries to force it out his throat. I stop. Are you sick?
Starting point is 00:09:34 He rolls his eyes. Kings don't get sick. I can see that look on his face, like he doesn't want the world around us to change, like he doesn't want the dragons to turn back to trees or his crown to turn from gold to twigs and string. He doesn't want this imaginary world to collapse in on itself. I don't want to stop playing either. The second cough drops him to his knees, and he has to reach his small arm out to steady
Starting point is 00:10:00 himself against my leg. I bend down, pick him up by his armpits, hoisted him until he's back on his own two feet. and tug on his hand. Let's go. King's don't get sick, but little brothers do. I gave his hand a squeeze, and we set off home. It takes us a little while to get back. He coughs to me, and we have to stop every few minutes,
Starting point is 00:10:22 and we have to take extra care to avoid the tunnels once it starts to get dark. I'm sure they're just rumors, just fiction, but I can't help letting parts of them take root in my mind. The rumors change depending on who you speak to, whether it's told to you by an old trunk or a cautious teacher, but all have a few things in common. They say that years and years ago, sometime in the 50s,
Starting point is 00:10:46 there was a huge underground complex under our town, a complex that spread out in all directions like a fungus. Something happened down there, although what this event actually was changes from person to person, and it was abandoned. Some claim that a whole city actually lived down there were forced to evacuate after the nuclear reactor went into meltdown. They say that it was a huge government cover-up
Starting point is 00:11:12 and that this is the reason that strange aircraft make flybys over our otherwise boring little town. Some claim that the complex was populated by a strange cult that made a deal with something so terrible and ancient that can never see the light of day again. I've even heard people say that the junkies found the labyrinth of tunnels under the city and used it to navigate the town and smuggle in dope. until they stumbled upon something that trapped them down there.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They called the people who supposedly live under the surface, rats, claim that after years without sunlight, they went pale and lost their vision, and that they'll chase you using only the sound of your feet if you wander too deep. Wayward little boys and girls will get chased by rats, rats with milky eyes and long fingers until they're caught and eaten whole. Reminds me of the descent. It sounds like the descent. it also sounds like that Australian found footage movie.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Oh, the tunnel. The tunnel. Yeah. Yeah. There's something very like just frightening about like people who acclimate to darkness and just live down there, breed down there to where now it's like these weird inbred kind of. Like a new inbred species that exists underground. You know, that's that's just blind. Almost like mole people or something.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the idea of, um, what's the word? for it. Speculative evolution, I think that's the word, where it's like, oh, what would
Starting point is 00:12:39 humanity or like different species look like given, you know, I mean, obviously, this is only like 50 years, but given like thousands of years, what traits would we develop, what would be bred out, stuff like that. I think that's a fun kind of thought process. And I think that's why the mole people stuff is so
Starting point is 00:12:55 scary because it's like, man, if we were in complete darkness, what would we look like? Yeah, just that uncanny nature. Uncany nature of like, if you're walking through one of these tunnels and you just see like it's like a almost entirely a regular human but completely bald and like eyes wide open but obviously can't see like that it's just like little things like that really fucking creepy I mean think about like think about someone born to that because you know
Starting point is 00:13:21 like babies in the womb were like in total darkness and then they're born in a total darkness and they just never developed those senses it's like what would the rest of their body look like I became such a pussy when I was born man I'm so claustrophobic now and just think I spent nine months in a little sack. Oh. Didn't bat an eye, didn't care. As soon as I was born,
Starting point is 00:13:41 I became a bitch. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Who do you think would be scary or bald? Completely hairless, me or you? And don't you dare, because you know,
Starting point is 00:13:52 I know that you immediately closed your eyes and you saw my fat gut and you just saw my, and you saw like a giant larvae? I'm going to put, I'm going to put a, okay, well, just don't smile.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm going to say I'm going to put at least an argument out there that I think that if you did not have a beard if you did have a mustache or anything and a bald head no eyebrows your lips would be so much fatter so much larger that it would I think that it would offset it would offset the folds and grundle and and textures that cover my fat skin so we're talking about that we're talking about that. like alopecia, right? We're not just talking about bald on the head. We're talking about you're going to say if we're going this far, I'm going to say like alopecia, but we're also going like
Starting point is 00:14:43 mole people. Like we're blind. We've definitely been underground. That kind of vibe. It's hard to imagine you without the beard, to be honest. Oh, it's hard to imagine you without weird. I feel like we would both look like weird
Starting point is 00:14:59 grub things because I have such a weird head. I don't think either of us would look good. The problem with me. I think I'd look terrible. The problem with me is I, you at least, the bat, you ever see a,
Starting point is 00:15:11 like a lake, like a still lake. You know what I mean? Like a still lake. And then a breeze goes by and it ripples the water. That's what like the entire backside of my leg looks like. And it's horrifying. So you're saying the body hair is doing you a few favors.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The body was, it's not doing any favors. It's keeping me human. It's the only thing that shields anyone who sees it, even just to general public. There's times, man, where I go out in public. I'll have, like, a pair of basketball shorts on. I'll go to a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'll bend down and just get, like, I don't know, some cheese or something. And I just know that, like, a little bit of my ham hawks peeking out just from underneath, like, right near my hamstring or something. And I'm like, whoever seeing this must be absolutely revolted, looks like a beehive. just to the text change. It's just absolutely unbelievable. And I refuse to make changes, which is the worst part.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I'm too set in my ways. Right, right. You were talking about my lips. And I need to show you this. So I was switched dentist recently, right? Because we moved. And then they're like,
Starting point is 00:16:25 oh, well, you need to send your records over from one dentist to another. And they, the, the first dentist office sent me like their records of x-rays and photos and stuff like that and they were all x-rays and like inside my mouth pictures of my teeth but they sent one
Starting point is 00:16:45 image of my mouth I'm going to be honest I don't appreciate the angle it shows you hold on I'm about it's to you I just I'm going to send it to you directly and I want you to keep in mind that we're business partners.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Not even not even sending it in the creepcast server. No, I don't. This is just for you. This is a, we keep in mind we're business partners and we're professionals
Starting point is 00:17:14 first and foremost. So. First, why the image looks so oddly sexual, doesn't it? I don't know if I'd say that. Oh, I would in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You know, it looks. like a fucking Sabrina Carpenter album covers. I'm like that. I saw that picture and I was like maybe it is that bad. Maybe I do have a problem. It looks like a donkey's mouth or something. It looks like a farm animal. All right. We don't need to go in all that detail. Oh, wow. You better show this on the episodes. People have some context because good God. Uh, I tell you what, you can show it on the episode. That's fun. These are two like, fucking Peruvian pillows just stacked on top of each other.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Good Lord, look at these sons of bitches. How is your top lip so impossibly white? It's like they drained all the blood out of your supple lip. And yet it didn't lose any form. A giant flash bulb in my face when they took the photo. Well, this is the thing is that your bottom lip is almost blister red. And the top lip is like it's translucent white. Yeah, in the US the most fucked up thing, though, is there's no blood in there.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They didn't lose shape at all. You got too excited. What did you say there? Wow. I don't need to hear what you were saying. This is fucking photo. You know what? Oh, hell.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Also, I don't delete it. What are you doing? Also, too, the file size is so small. So whatever you open it, you have to like zoom in like, 400 times to even see the fucking image why did they give you a higher reds deal? Because they sent me
Starting point is 00:19:19 okay so funny funny image that because the new office was like we can't use any of these and I'm like why not the image quality is way too small and I pull up the email and I go to the images every single picture was collaged onto one page
Starting point is 00:19:36 of Microsoft Word it was like 80 pictures There wasn't enough ink in the printer to get those lips in there. Sorry, buddy. We have to do just teeth from now on. You're like, good. That's how I wanted you to do. The image you're seeing now is just a crop screenshot I took of the little.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That's why it's so small. There is absolutely. There is absolutely no way. There's no way that your Dennis doesn't use this to kiss and to and to have some kind of. I feel like this is his just like perfect lips folder. And he puts it in there. and he does, oh my God, perfect lips. I'd go back in and I would say,
Starting point is 00:20:13 I would say, what are you doing with this? As I'd say, I'd go back, I'd demand it. He's like, you want some floss? I'm like, no, put the fucking floss away from me. I'm like, what are you doing with these pictures? I'm like, I'll go to a dentist and there's, this is 80% lip. Like, there's barely any teeth in this.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah, what are you getting with this picture? There's 40x raceless. What does this do for you? This is such an. anomaly too. Your bottom row of teeth, there's like four teeth there. Okay. We don't even get into this level of detail. I'm pretty sure this violates HIPAA at this point. This is my God.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I've never seen teeth look so big yet so small. It's so uncanny. It's like a goddamn Salvador dolly painting. Okay. I'm like, God, Lord. All right. We got to fucking read a story. You should have never sent that picture to me. You should have never sent that. Because I'll tell you what, that's just for my own personal hell.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to do with that. I downloaded it too. I'm, I can't, I can't. I can't. I'm glad you're getting so much mileage out of this. I can't picture. I can't go a world without having that picture.
Starting point is 00:21:30 If you deleted that, if you deleted that, I'd freak out. Okay. Oh, God. Oh, God. Okay, well, yeah, glad we had that aside. So the story, the Rat King, I like this setup with the younger brother sick. And I really like that one line they said where they were describing like the cough and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And it's like, I don't want to stop playing either. the second cough drops to his knees. Kings don't get sick, but little brothers do. So establishes like this very idealic world. And it's a very simple way to give us some weight to the characters and their connection. Like the older brother wants to be stronger for the little brother. And the little brother's ill, but he doesn't want to stop like this world he has with the older brother. And it gives us a lot of relationship context very quickly.
Starting point is 00:22:33 and also just like we were talking about with the tunnel and stuff like that the idea of people underneath the town like you know subterranean people
Starting point is 00:22:41 it's just a cool idea what what I'm picturing it is that big white lip flapping up and down being able to form words
Starting point is 00:23:00 to be that's actually people can understand I'm like You must have so much muscle in your face to flap those big fucking beaks around. I'll admit, the picture looks pretty rough, okay? But when you look at me in the face, it makes sense in context, okay? It's fine. You were really, people have been like, oh, you have big lips, but you're the first person I'm
Starting point is 00:23:30 that's really honed in on that. It's like a thing. avoidable. You're like the kid in glass of shit his pants and everyone's trying to pretend they can't smell it. Bullshit. I'm like, look at this. Look at these lips flabbling around.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Unbelievable. This photo. I'm telling you. I mean, we're in February and I feel like it's Christmas. And this is a treat. This is a true gift you just gave me right here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:59 What does that mean so much? I've already said it to Harry. I've done all kinds of stuff. I think this is going to pop up in all corners of the internet. This is an insane invasion of my privacy. You don't even care. You just sit it out. It's going to show up in a big canyon cartoon.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's done. There's no avoiding it. What have you done with it? This picture was promised to me 3,000 years ago. I'm not sure it's promising. Where are we even at? We're in the story. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:53 but we're at. Are we at some? Oh, God. I was trying to get back on course. We're back. I'm back on course. I was talking about how I like the dynamic.
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Starting point is 00:28:06 Thank you to Factor for sponsoring the show. Their link will be in the description, and we are now back to the episode. Whatever the truth is, there's something below the surface, something wrong, something that makes the children sick and the adults weary and paranoid. When we get home, my parents rush my brother to the hospital, and he stays there for several days whilst they run all kinds of tests. I'm allowed to visit on the third day, and I find my mother sat in the waiting room, holding his twig crown in her hands. She gestures to the crown. contamination risk My brother seems to have somehow
Starting point is 00:28:41 shrunk in the past three days although perhaps that's just perspective he is after all surrounded by huge machines that were and beep tubes that loop over the side of his bed he smiles when he sees me makes movement to give me a hug
Starting point is 00:28:57 but a doctor calmly puts his hand on his chest no set of movements I try and hold it together to be the best big sister I can be kissing his fore forehead stroking his hair, telling him he's going to be all right. I try and ignore the look in the doctor's face. At the end of the third day, they take my parents into a separate room, and I can only make
Starting point is 00:29:17 out their silhouettes through the misted glass. I can see my mother put her head in her hands, and my father put his arm around her. They don't say anything until we get home, or my father calmly takes every plate out of the drawer, smashes them against the wall. It doesn't porcelain explosions, and it collapses to the floor with huge, and he does it poursion, huge animal sobs. I cook dinner and we eat it out of the pan. I understand.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Our life has become a series of trips to and from the hospital, and I'm entrusted with carrying out tests that were meant for my brother. It's strange, although he was far younger than me, six years, to be precise, there must have been some tradition about these falling about the man in the family. Each week, I take bundles of food and water to several spots just upstream from various tunnels or sewer entrances. There I place them in the water and watch as they follow the course of the water, down and round and eventually disappear into the black mouse of the tunnels.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Sometimes, if I leave it until it gets dark, I can hear things coming from these entrances. Paranoid whispers, muted whales, something like humming. It's as if a hundred people are speaking all at once, a thousand miles away, and the echo of the echo of the echo of their voices is drifting. out into the night. So is she saying that it's part of the family, like the man, the men are supposed to go feed whatever's down this river? Well, I think that it's saying that, well, I think she's saying that the men in the family are like ones that get sick. Are the ones that are being like it seems like men in this family are the ones, at least that's
Starting point is 00:30:59 how I read it are people that are appearing like that's why it's affecting her brother. I know, which I want to, I want to say, I do love that line. How creepy is that to, like, you take, you take the bundles of food down to the tunnels, whatever, and then from there, you can hear like the echo of an echo of an echo of like thousands, of like tons of people talking thousands of miles away. Just such an interesting, like, picturing that in your head, just hearing it. It's so soft and so like just like a, just a slight whisper into your ear. Really fun.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, yeah. I make sure that whenever I visit my brother, I bring him strawberries. his favorite food, till he grows too weak to eat them, until I have to cut them up with a knife and fork into small, bite-sized pieces which I feed to him. We pretend for a while that he's still the king, and I'm just a knight who's making sure my king is fed and healthy, but it soon becomes too painful. It's a reminder of the years spent outside, long summers, of the promise that we both might someday grow old. Around a month later, he comes home. He's almost skin and bone at the this point, but we still make the effort to have a little welcome home party. My father acts strange
Starting point is 00:32:12 at dinner. I can see it in the way he moves, the redness around his eyes, and that suggests he's been crying. A boy like that shouldn't have to face death. He shouldn't have to grapple with it, to try and understand it, to rationalize it. He looks to me. A boy like that should live forever. My brother was always the favorite, and I knew that. I didn't mind. It was my first. It was my favorite too. That's a, that's a heartbreaking line. It's so sad. It's hard. It's, it's heartbreaking, but sweet given the, the context, but yeah, I mean, it's, it's, uh, I think that it's, uh, I don't think it's supposed to be something where it's malicious or it's not supposed to be something where it's like the parents are obviously loving the child more. I think
Starting point is 00:32:58 it's just that like this is a being that is impossible not to love to that like, you know what I mean. Yeah. Also, it does remind me of what is that thing with, there's a word for it, but kids who was raised with a six sibling, while the attention was directed towards the six siblings, so because they're kind of neglected, there's a word they have for it, but it kind of reminds me of that, which I don't know. I may be just paranoid, but something about the father's line, a boy like that should live forever. makes me feel a little suspicious.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I mean, don't be wrong. It's a, it's a weird line, but also if your son is dying of cancer or some kind of sickness. It's a real, like outside of the context of it being a no sleep story, yeah, that's perfectly reasonable. But because it's in a no sleep story. Yeah, I mean, it's a red herringer. But yeah, it's a sign that's coming. That night I hear a rustling, hush whispers, and the lock to the back door spring open. Curious, I pick out my blind.
Starting point is 00:34:03 and sea, still partially illuminated by the light from inside, my father, and in his arms, a bottle of white cloth, and a face, my brother. Immediately I get dressed and make my way noiselessly, downstairs and out the house, following as best I can in the dark. I follow him down the back roads, through the fields, and eventually to the mouth of a tunnel. The roar of the water coming from it muffles my movements, and I lurk at the very edge of my father's glow as we enter. Thankfully, he does not look back often.
Starting point is 00:34:37 When he does, he seems to be in a trance, eyes glazed over, a grim expression on his face. It gets quieter as we get further and further into the tunnels, and I have to take care not to make any sound, holding my breath, making exaggerated short steps. There are noises, though. My father holds an old-fashioned lantern in his hand, which casts a small sphere of light across the tunnel, and every now and again he'll freeze and hold it in front of him, as if challenging somewhat to come out from the dark. Whispers bounce of the walls of the tunnel,
Starting point is 00:35:11 saying all sorts of strange and horrible things. I hear the faint sound of manic laughter over some tuneless hum. My father carries something that makes strange, periodic clicking noises, and every so often starts clicking rapidly until he moves on. There's writing on the walls, and the further we get, the more demented it gets. It goes from teenagers' graffiti to genuine warnings, telling people to stay away, that they must not go any further, welcoming us to hell. Then smaller, stranger writing,
Starting point is 00:35:46 and scrawled almost childish letters to stay a while. I think about the rats we were warned about. Imagine them as a pack stalking me in the same way on following my father, milky-eyed and hungry, peering at me from crevices in the wall and from under the surface of the water. You start going down and incline and I have to hang further back, trying to time my steps of my father so he doesn't hear me, crouching and covering my face whenever he turns around.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Voices are getting louder now and more manic. There are so many of them. I can hear arguments, confessions, laughter, songs, monologues. You never talk to me. It makes me wince. sounds like all the thoughts of an asylum and the smell starts to reek not only of shit
Starting point is 00:36:41 but of sweat and bile and curdled milk I wonder if it's the rats speaking or if it's some great mind leaking. Their worries and anxieties and desires spilling out and into our world. My father pushes on and we get deeper. The tunnels turn from brick to concrete
Starting point is 00:36:57 and the graffiti turns to actual printed text. Plaza, one mile approximately. Oh, so I guess that does point to the idea that there was a city down here at one point, right? Yeah. Like there's like roadsides. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The noise starts to hit me like a wall and I grow my confident. Standing up straight, there's no way he can hear me over this. Here, why do they think of all this place around? Why they're so idiots in both the corner of what does it was? Comprehensible, so many words layered over each other. It sounds like TV static. See the sea, see me, see these, how many times it do you have to say right, And then we emerge into this vast underground chamber.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It seems to be illuminated by small lights around the edge, although they're so faint it takes a while for my eyes to adjust. But even in the dim light, I can see how big this thing is, how massive, as if each light is a star hinting an unknowable depth and height. Something changes as we enter. My clothes and skin have the texture of used gum. Ugh. Everything becomes sticky.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like a leather seat on a hot day. My vision swims slightly. A wall of stale heat hits me, the temperature of sweat, hot breath. Whatever it is that's here, it's emanating into the room and reality around us. It stinks. The voices are deafening. I can see the bundle of clothes in my father's arms start to wiggle and shake, and he holds his lamp up and I can see it first as a wall.
Starting point is 00:38:32 A wall, the color of pallid skin, until I can make out, familiar shapes, hands, arms, faces, all coming from attached to this wall, legs and ears and fingers all bursting from this wall like spots or growths, hundreds of mouths moving, hands endlessly grasping at nothing, legs spasming and trying to move along the slick ground and some shapes are more defined than others. You can see some bodies that are half absorbed by this wall, some that still have the shape of human, shoulders, bellies, and some that have been completely absorbed so that all that's left is facial features spread out of a massive skin. And it occurs to me that these are, were
Starting point is 00:39:17 people, and the sound and the stenches coming from this thing, whatever it is, this thing that laughs and screams and whoops and mutters and spits until it dawns on me that it's not just a wall because somehow, slowly and with great effort, it's moving. Swaying and stumbling. and fraction by fraction it starts to make its way towards us. The eyes that littered surface fixed on the white bundle in my father's arms, the mouth filled with yellow teeth hollering and wailing, fingers across the surface contracting and spasming like dying insects. And frozen in horror,
Starting point is 00:39:52 it's all I can do to watch my father take my brother out from the bundle of clothes and hold him out to grabbing hands and flailing arms until they take him, pull him in, and he's too weak to resist and the voices seem to reach a fever pitch united for just a second as he joins and I can hear him scream louder
Starting point is 00:40:12 and louder until I lose his voice amongst the others. We watch for a while trying to keep track of my brother's body before the thing shifts and wobbles and new faces appear and once my brother
Starting point is 00:40:27 disappears into the dark. My father turns around walk straight towards me grabs my hand and pulls. We have to go now. I have so many questions. How did he know I was here? What is this thing? Is my brother okay?
Starting point is 00:40:42 But he's stronger than me, and when he tugs on my hand, I stumble after him. He says only one thing to me, once we're far enough away for the sound to turn back to whispers. He says it with tears in his eyes, and for a moment, I could see that he's not just a man, but also a boy, deep down. And he's just as scared and hurt and confused as I am. That thing, it does not die. It does not age. A pause as he wipes the tears from his cheeks.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He will not die down here. When we return home, my mother has fallen asleep at the kitchen table waiting for us. When we wake her, she looks at us as if we had killed him ourselves. I think on my father's words. We will not die down there. I wonder if, perhaps, death might have been better. Bro, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Okay, we're almost over, then I'll talk about it. Oh, man. I still do the jobs that were met for my brother, the strange rituals that were meant for the man of the family. I still pack and send the bundles of food into the tunnels. But now that I know what's down there, I take a few extra steps. I make sure to put strawberries amongst the food,
Starting point is 00:41:56 making the biggest and juiciest I can find. If I've got a spare hour or so, I'll make a little crown and twigs and string and hope that it finds him somehow in the dark. And if I get close enough, close enough to hear the whispers and shrieks and laughter, sometimes I can make out his voice amongst them, the voice of my little king, my rat king.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Oh, brother. Bravo. Oh, oh. Oh, I forgot about the title of the story. It gave me chills there at the end. Oh, that was sick. Bro. I love this.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I really like in horror. You kind of see this with like, I mean, like, I'm a huge Kronenberg fan. And with stuff like the fly. And these horror narratives or these things were stories where the main character is, it's like somebody's just dying in front of you and there's nothing you can do. The kind of moral dilemma of. people having of like, well, do you, like the dad giving his son off to this creature, this thing in the sewers, this rat king itself. Uh, it's like a pet cemetery. It's just like it's just a, it's a fun act
Starting point is 00:43:11 of desperation and the unwillingness to be able to let go and be, and be able to say goodbye. It's such a personal and human thing that I don't, I feel like everybody would have so many people would have a different response to that what that dad did i think some people would be like oh i would do anything to keep my child alive as well but i think that like it it does you know even in the story they do have uh it there's literally the pet cemetery line of uh sometimes dead is better you know it's like that kind of thing but i i love that it um i think the context is different because i i agree with the sister at the end where she's like maybe you know sometimes dead is better um versus becoming a part of this amalgamation of eternal flesh, right?
Starting point is 00:43:57 But I think important context is the mention that one of the theories people have around this thing is that it was started by a cult sometime in the past, right? That they conjured up something so awful and now people are trapped down there, which seems to be... Well, 100% is the dad is a part of that cold or something. The dad's a part of that cult and the family has been for generations. Yeah, yeah. The family is definitely a part of it.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And I think even that's why the mom is like, you might as well have just killed him because she knows exactly what she knows what it is. I mean, they're the one. It says the men of the family take the food to the river, right? Yep. And they feed whatever's down there the whole time. So it's different for him who is a part of this cult and has seen this thing for generations possibly to be like, oh, we'll give it to the eternal mass rather than, you know, let him die. Which goes back to that line.
Starting point is 00:44:44 The dad's over where he comes to the decision of like, I guess I'm going to give him to the mass, right? But man, the opening where the sister was like, they were playing and pretend and he was a king. And then at the end, she put strawberries in the crown on the food. She sends is so heartbreaking. But that last line, my rat king. Oh my gosh, dude. What's a fun, it's a fun idea of that you're playing dungeons and dragons at the beginning. And then you literally go into a sewer that is like a dungeon.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And that's where he gets to be his king. You know what I mean? And then there's like the description where he's talking about or the sister is talking about how she was his night. She would bring him food and take care of him while he was sick in his hospital bed. And now she's continuing to do that as he's a part of the mass. This is one of those stories where
Starting point is 00:45:33 sometimes, you know, after sometimes when these stories, because this was a nice short story. Sometimes if we read these short stories, I'm always like, man, I wish that there was more. But with this story, I just, it was so, I just really loved how everything was approached.
Starting point is 00:45:49 You know, you got to understand the child was sick. you get a little element of the cult. Like nothing was ever overstepping itself and he got just enough of information to make it satisfying. Like I really do feel like this is just like a perfect link through this type of concept and the way that they executed. I think Max did a great job. Yeah. Yeah. This was fan.
Starting point is 00:46:07 This is the first story we've read by this guy. And that was a banger. Like down to the pacing of it and the execution. I like how the father knew she was there the whole time. But was like, I guess she has to see this at some point, especially if she's going to be the one feeding this down here. right well yeah um so it lets her follow i always love in these cult like in these stories where somebody knows somebody knows about a monster or they're dealing with a monster we kind of had this in the story where uh the moth with the mothosy yeah very very similar the um i love when there
Starting point is 00:46:41 is when there's a character you i mean even in the mothos the episode it was like there was the father who even kind of knew what the son had to do. It's this thing of like when you have your beliefs and it's hard to swallow. And it's like even the, the dad at the end, I don't think that he's particularly stoked that his son is just a part of this monster, this amalgamation now. He's not.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You know, but it's a thing that they obviously still believe in. They take care of and they do that. So in a way, it's, it's just, I like that because it's justifiable why he would be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:15 it's better than death. in his eyes because it's obviously something that he cares about that he takes care of so it's just a fun like he can't let go of his son yet so now he's like oh well
Starting point is 00:47:26 if I do this my son will be there in some way right yeah even if I don't get to see him directly I know I'm still taking care of him I know he's still in the dark somewhere right
Starting point is 00:47:39 also like the subtle kind of world building stuff where it's like they go down there and there was a plet So it's like, was there city down here? Is this all part of whatever this spell, this ritual is? But then the description of the room where there's lights in the distance that might as well be stars because they give off impossible depth to the space.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It reminded me of John Milton, not John Milton, the other John, the guy that did the Paradise Lost depiction. Hold on. There is one piece of art from Paradise Lost that I think about all. the time. John Martin's who I'm thinking of. John Martin. John Milton was the author of Paradise Lost. Yeah, Pandemonium.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Okay, hold on. Let me send you this image real quick. So, when describing hell and Satan's throne in Paradise Lost, John Milton gave this depiction of it. And what I love about this image
Starting point is 00:48:42 is you see Satan on the throne and then you see like the rose of people behind, but you see the lights hanging on the ceiling, and you kind of have a sense of depth on the first row of how far back they go, but then there's rows and rows of lights. And it's like this room he's in is impossibly
Starting point is 00:48:59 large, right? So I, when she talked about walking into the room and then seeing lights that were impossible death that reminded me at this. And now I'm thinking maybe the author, because the author is Max Voynich named after Voynich main descript. He obviously into like some weird esoteric stuff. Maybe that's kind of
Starting point is 00:49:17 of the idea he was conjuring, the idea of this underground like circle of demons, this infinite cask of like the devil in his power. And that probably ties back into the cult and like this creatures is made. But all that's done. But the point I'm trying to say is I got all these ideas off of a sign that said plaza and then a description of how big the room was. And it's like, oh, maybe it's this, maybe it's that. And he does so much with so little by using the time he has to get these really cool ideas across and like maybe these cool theories theory crafting you could do with the little pieces he gives it's like he has a cohesive idea of where this stuff came from how it all came to be but he just sprinkles clues of it so you can try to put it together and i think that's
Starting point is 00:50:00 really neat yeah i really love this story i thought was awesome the use of the body horror two at the end is awesome i eat that shit up all day but it's also something where it's a fine line you got a ride because sometimes that shit just it all sounds the exact same so sometimes you have to just be and i feel like that it was just enough to give you a fun understanding of this like actual rat that is tied together in a literal flesh sense without just being something that's like generic you know it served its purpose in a great way to that lends itself to the story versus trying to take the limelight and be like isn't this crazy it's just like a fun accent to the story which was nice but I'm excited that we get to read another one from him yeah yeah and like I said we'll have his stuff linked in
Starting point is 00:50:42 description. This guy has a ton of stories on his Reddit. It's a shame he hasn't posted in six years. I want him to keep writing. Who knows? Maybe with some support here and maybe with, once he sees this, maybe this, maybe it could be something too. Maybe he's cooking something huge. Who knows? Could be.
Starting point is 00:50:58 But it would be very cool if you all, if you like this to show him some support so that, you know, gets on board. That'd be cool. Or he gets to making more stuff or something because I want more of this. Anyway, our second story from him today is called, if we misbehaved as children, we had to stand in the shed.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Something else stood with us. So, are you ready, Hunter? Let's do it. It was as simple as that. It misbehaved. He stood in the shed. As I've grown older, I've come to realize that it wasn't just if we were naughty, but if our parents wanted some space, some time alone, to get rid of us when they had guests
Starting point is 00:51:34 over, they were always throwing these lavish and expensive dinners with services in Latin, incense, and all the guests massed and dress. dressed in black. They needed us gone. The shed itself was rotting, an old wet structure that set at the bottom of our garden, maybe three or four minutes walk from the main house. Sure, that might not sound like the longest time, but try walking for four minutes in any direction you choose and see how far you get. Go on, time it. I think you'd be surprised. So after we made the mistake, shoot with our mouth open, asked a rude question, used the wrong cutlery, we were sent off. If we were together, Naomi, my younger sister and I, the walk didn't seem too long.
Starting point is 00:52:17 We could talk, trying to take our minds off the shed, off the fact that it had its own whale, the fact that sometimes it was so dark you couldn't see one in from the other. We'd try to ignore the fact that sometimes the tapping on the windows sounded less like branches and more like some form of echo location, like some giant and curious creature on the other side trying to draw us out. We'd stand there, shaking hands. hand in hand. I mean songs we could have remember, whispering stories to each other, anything to make the time pass. I tried to keep her spirits up to make sure she wasn't as terrified as I felt, as I couldn't let on that I felt. Sometimes she'd repay the favor and she'd tell me about her
Starting point is 00:52:57 favorite animals, how big they were, what they ate, where I might find them if I was interested. It helped, the quiet, focused tone of her voice, the obvious pleasure she took in naming them all despite our situation. I was much worse behaved than Naomi. She was all blonde hair and smiles, ribbons, long, and looping handwriting, and pristine diaries. I wasn't interested in any of that.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Being a boy, and being so proud of being a boy, brandishing my scrape knees and torn clothes, refusing to bathe until my father would hold me down and force me upstairs. As such, I spit a lot longer in that shed than she did. As time passed, I began to realize
Starting point is 00:53:37 there was something wrong with it. Sure, the air in there was colder, stiller than the air outside. Sure, rats and mice slipped under the floorboards, squealing and gnawing and climbing over each other in the dark. Sure, if you came in the daylight, you'd see a flock of crows
Starting point is 00:53:53 talked to each other as you entered, trading little cause as if discussing you. But there was something else, a sense that you were never truly alone there. A sense that, shivering and hidden in the dark, something was watching you. I like, again, Max does a really good job
Starting point is 00:54:12 and the two examples we've seen of giving you so much with so little because there's a little description of the parents where it's like when they needed, you know, they send us out whenever they needed time to their self. And it has a mention that
Starting point is 00:54:26 they throw lavish and expensive dinners with incense and all the gas masks and dressed in black. So it's like, okay, their parents are some cult, something like that. But then you have this shed that's probably related to whatever their practices is. And there's a ton of weird stuff that happens around it. Like the crow showing up and things like that.
Starting point is 00:54:45 So it's like how much of that is supernatural and how much of that is just like the eeriness that he feels being around a structure like this? I think it's almost interesting how from a kid's perspective, the masquerade parties your parents throw. Like the ritual stuff isn't the interesting thing. It's the shed. But because of the masquerade, we're almost. positive there's something supernatural about the shed right yeah well coming from the perspective of like a younger kid teenager these things that are so normalized in their life are said in such a way that seems like well of course you know they're in a mass party you know as like it said so matter of fact
Starting point is 00:55:22 that it isn't drawn out to be some kind of like creepy big thing i just like how normalized it feels and it just is a it's a piece of vital information that you could easily miss which i think is kind of fun. Yeah, yeah. I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor, Harry's Razors. Anyone with body hair can tell you that there are a few things more annoying than a dull razor. You get midway through a shave and then your face starts to hurt and then you can't even shave the rest. And what you do shave is red and covered in blood, which Hunter may find attractive, but I don't. But now I don't have to be worried about being attractive to Hunger anymore thanks to Harry's. That's because Harry's lets me have German engineered blades and barbershop quality shaves whenever I want. The
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Starting point is 00:57:19 or I'd even had a chance to misbehave, and as such, I'd been sent to my room preemptively. they were hosting seemed special and my mother spent the whole week fretting about who was setting where and what to serve and if they'd be able to find the house old and crooked as it was nestled on the edge of thick black woods that had no obvious markings to tourists something else though frenzy in the kitchens my father holding a set of keys i'd never seen before heavy in brass the dogs locked in the kennels my mother's hands covered in paint they had wanted us out interesting okay dogs and kennels paint on her hands or maybe blood, and then a set of brass keys.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Also, when it said the house at the edge of the woods, dark and decrepit, I thought of the house where I saw the can man. God. The story should come far more disturbing to me, far more scary. And so I spent the evening in my room, had against the window,
Starting point is 00:58:17 watching the guests come in. Their long and pointed mass, the lanterns they carried. And the way they bowed as they met my mother at the door. There's a goat tied to a post a few feet from the entrance And I was trying to work out why each guest would take a moment to say something to the goat Or bending to kiss its horns I never seen the goat before
Starting point is 00:58:37 I remember wondering if it was a gift or if my parents had brought it for some sort of game I felt sorry for Naomi in the shed When beginning to howl which I knew brought strange Life-like noises from the holes in the old wood made the window rattle and the rat shelter between the floorboards. Felt sorry for how alone she must have felt. That is, until I saw her. When Naomi came back, her hair was braided.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It was tied into one long plate that curled around her head, the hair bound together by neat red ribbons, wildflowers punctuating the plat every so often to give her the impression of a wild princess, her nose and cheeks were flushed from the cold and she spoke in between sniffles, wrinkling her nose each time, still shaking. I asked her where she learned to do her hair.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Our mother was never one for anything like that, referring either military ponytails or simply combing it until Naomi could fight back tears. And I thought perhaps Naomi had read it in a book somewhere. She loved books but was clumsy, able to name all the animals of the forest but forever scaring them off with her heavy footfall. She shook her head.
Starting point is 00:59:53 No, it wasn't me. Someone at the party? I asked, knowing full well that she wasn't supposed to attend, but that often guests couldn't resist saying at least a hello to the little blonde girl on the stairs. She shook her head again. Something turned to my stomach, caught in my throat. Who, Naomi? I asked, trying to hold back the panic in my voice. Pointed to herself.
Starting point is 01:00:17 did this strange rasping voice and on the end breath spoke her name in syllables. Nay. Me. Dude. Bro. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Imagine there is a little girl, right? And you're like, oh, hey, Sarah. How are you doing? And she points herself, she's like, Sarah. It's like, no. No, we got, sorry. Hey, your daughter's dad. Sorry that your daughter died.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I'm leaving. Yeah. Bye. I was so sorry for your all's lost. You should burn that thing. Anyway, bye. Your dress is so cute. I have to go take a shit.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I'll be right back. That's right. Run. Yeah, crawl out the window. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I meant I have to go do that at home.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I have to go all the way home. But it's my home because I'm leaving the state now. I said it again, firmer this time, the tone I'd used when I scolded her. Who did this? Who was in, who was in there with you?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Who put the ribbons and flowers in your hair? The reply was the same on the inbreath. I knew neither of us could go back, and although I was on my best behavior, Naomi didn't seem to care. It seemed to be oblivious as to what waited at the bottom of the garden for us. My mother said the party was the success that she'd be having another one. She seemed younger, I thought. Crow's feet by her eyes had smoothed and her mouth seemed fuller. I tried to beg for her to hold off, but she replied by looking up.
Starting point is 01:01:52 out the window towards the shed and I have no choice but to shut up. Interesting. So it seems like they're doing this as like a rejuvenation spell. Yeah. I wonder then how old they are and if this is even their kids, right? Because they clearly have a contempt for them. Like they brush her hair until she cries and like super strict and things like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I mean, they almost seem like sacrificial victims or something. Yeah. Maybe they're just like fatten them up, so to speak, for some eventual ritual. Might have already done it if Naomi's now possessed by a skin walker or whatever. Yeah. I asked about the goat
Starting point is 01:02:29 and was told that there was no goat that I must have imagined it. And when I pushed her on this, she slapped me hard in the face until I tasted blood and said that boys who lied spent weeks in the shed and had their food slid under the door
Starting point is 01:02:41 until they knew better. The shed hung at the bottom of the garden, did it in shadow. I tried not to look at it, terrified I'd see faces in the window, pressed up against the glass. staring back at me. I thought that maybe, somehow, if I tried as hard as I could to pretend it didn't exist, I'd be safe. I was wrong. My parents were looking for any excuse the night of the party. Before I even
Starting point is 01:03:07 knew I'd done something wrong, I was sent to the shed. I tried to find Naomi, tried to ask if she was there, but she was nowhere to be found. My parents' patience grew thin. They said if I didn't go right this minute I'd be sorry. My father's lips shook like it did when he was angry or drunk, when he wanted to use his hands or his bell to bruise. The walk to the shed had me breathless. My old body was shaking in fear, an anticipation of something I didn't understand. I could feel my knees weak as each step took me closer. The sun was beginning to set and the trees cast long shadows on the grass. Crows were quiet this evening, strutting down branches to watch. The door to the shed was already ajar
Starting point is 01:03:51 And for a moment I thought I caught motion inside I was still silent Until I heard the flapping of wings A patter of rats I took a breath I was going to be okay There was nothing in the shed that could hurt me
Starting point is 01:04:06 Nail me and learned to braid her own hair I decided Upon entering that I would do What any boy should do What any man should do And I slowly paced around the walls I thought that this would dispel any ideas I had about something else being in there with me, about anything sharing the space.
Starting point is 01:04:25 My footsteps were marked by the groan of old floorboards, a faint echo as they bounced from the wall. Each footstep followed by an echo. A slight delay, and so after I'd walk three paces, I'd pause and hear. Step, step, step. I'd walk three more. Same thing. step, step, step.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Except, I realized it wasn't an echo. It was the sound of something behind me, something mimicking me, following my exact footsteps for fear of being heard, and I felt sweat began to break out on my back. My mouth went dry. Couldn't breathe. Whatever was behind me knew I'd be listening. A noise startled me, made me gasp, and I realized I hadn't taken a breath in almost a minute. The window in front of me. Something was tapping against it. I still had the impression of something behind me, something huge, something watching.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And part of me knew I had to turn around, but I couldn't bring myself too. I think I had it somewhere in my head that maybe I could still pretend this was all a game or a mistake, that by turning around, I'd somehow make my fears real. Tapping on the window continued. I squinted to see better. There, against the window, was a crow. Feathers, dark beady eyes, a huge and sharp beak. But it seemed bigger than I thought possible.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Forfe in my reflection, and I thought maybe it was because I was still some paces from the window. Then the tapping came again, and I realized that the sound wasn't the crow. Couldn't be the crow, because the crow was completely still. And I could see it now. A long and low branch that actually was tapping. And I realized that what I thought was the crow was actually something behind. Something huge and dark and still and I turned around. It must have been about eight feet tall.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Huge and with thin limbs covered in black robes. Robs so dark than unless you were really looking for them, really aware of their presence that have seemed invisible, and emerging from the hood a long and pointed beak, two eyes that only appeared as glints. We stared at each other for a while. I feel my heart beating so fast it hurt, a tension in the left side of my chest that grew and grew.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Slowly the bird thing lifted its hand, pointing a long and gnarled finger at me. It opened its beak to speak, and the sound reminded me of a parent, father's friend had, mimicking human speech, uncertain, grading as if the words were not meant for it. I shook my head. It was all I could do.
Starting point is 01:07:27 The thing caught and the crow screamed in response. It asked again. No. Was all I can manage. No. Then the thing seemed to fly into a panic, all limbs in frantic movement, bending itself, folding itself through the door and out into the forest. And as my eyes followed, I could see the...
Starting point is 01:07:44 the faint glow that it headed for, some glow that threw shafts of orange light between the trees and the sound of drums. Man, this, dude, this is sick. Giant crow god. Giant crow god that's friends with Naomi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Yeah, it's like, the parents are like this ancient, like, you know, religious practice, which I also like how the thing that made the mom younger was that her crow's feet went away. Ha, ha. But it's like, the thing I said earlier, it's like, are the crows supernatural? Is that just a thing the kids noticing because the shed's creepy? But no, the crows are part of the supernatural aesthetic of this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And you have the family, it's part of the stark cults and does these rituals to stay young. And then you have this crow god and there's this group of people in the forest with drums and stuff. It's so cool. It's a sick. I followed as fast as I could. My knees and shins whipped until they bled by wild grass, thick, it's low bushes. But I kept on pushing on. Something in its tone had disturbed me. Some sense. of panic or purpose and I had only the safety of my sister in mind. I ran until the glow turned into a deep light that cast its own shadows in the dark, that illuminated pale figures standing in a circle around it, a fire, surrounded by naked figures, who wore masks made from thin branches
Starting point is 01:09:01 and reeds, prude shapes who were all flesh, some with drums made from bone with leather stretched, some empty-handed, some holding books and totems and lanterns. There, unconscious, and a child. Acknowledge chair in front of the fire, in a red robe with a crown of wildflowers, Naomi. Some would come forward from the crowd on the beat of the drum and kiss her forehead gently, the way you might do to a baby. She sat bolt upright, eyes closed, as she dreamed the figure in front of her read something from a book. Her voice echoed by the crowd, growing louder and louder in language I did not, could not understand.
Starting point is 01:09:41 The drums grew faster now, as if drawing in on something. something converging and the voices grew excited and I saw in the figure's hands something glint in light a knife a long and thin knife they were slowly raising I wanted so much to do something to stop this but my limbs seemed to freeze to stop it all happened so fast there was a caw angry and clipped and then the caw echoed around the woods coming from every angle from the roots to the bows to the tops of the trees from behind me and above me, and then the fire was snuffled out like a candle, a commotion, screams. People began to run, only lit by the dim light of the lanterns, and I could see that somehow Naomi was gone, a robe and crown all gone. Revellers began to run
Starting point is 01:10:34 towards me, heading into the forest to get away from whatever this was. Faces still covered by masks, screaming, and I had no other choice. I couldn't tell what they do if they'd found me. If they'd run past or if they'd grabbed me to, taking me to wherever they were sheltering, and I ran until I was sure my lungs would collapse, and then ran some more. I ran until the spit dried in my mouth and in my lungs, and every breath made me shake.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I ran until I was two towns over, covered in blood and my feet torn. They found me on all fours in the town center, retching onto the cobblestones. It took two days for me to finally speak. When they finally took me back, they made an effort to disprove the parts of my story, they didn't believe, although even then I could tell they were holding back.
Starting point is 01:11:20 They cannot find my parents, or the guests at the party. They found evidence of a bonfire, but no masks. They cannot find I-O-Me either. And the case would stay open for years, decades. No one had seen anyone like her description come through, and it was assumed that, for one reason or another, she had disappeared with my parents. They did comment on the sheer number of crows in the garden. It took me years after that to finally return to that house.
Starting point is 01:11:48 It took enough time for me to have children my own, undergo years of therapy. I found things that helped me piece together what happened. In rooms, stone slabs, ruins carved wall, old books that smelled like rotten had strange diagrams in them. But I never found her. I like to think whatever took her, saved her. Although, if I'm honest, I can't be sure. I like to think that she roams the forest now with her crown of wildflowers and her red robe
Starting point is 01:12:18 passing her blessing over all the creatures she loves so much and although the shed has been demolished now floorboards and walls removed to reveal the bones of livestock sometimes I'll hear it when I'm walking in the woods working in my room whispered by the wind cries of birds man
Starting point is 01:12:44 And that is the end. Two for two, dude. Yeah. I, uh, what I liked about both of these two is like, well, the, it's hard to say. This one seems like it has a bit of a darker ending. Well, both of them have like a darker ending, but. Yeah. The first one was super happy with the kid getting absorbed by the flesh wall.
Starting point is 01:13:03 The creature, like the crow, I don't think that the eight foot tall crow dude was like a bad entity. He just wanted Naomi and then he left. Yeah. Yeah, it's like his buddy. So then when Naomi wasn't there, he was like, wait, what the fuck? and it seemed like he went out, was freaking out. It looked like the, it seemed like the cult was going to sacrifice her. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:19 They were going to stab her. But then when the crow god saw her in the chair, it screamed and then the crows came from everywhere. And the fire snuffed out and everyone ran in a panic. Yeah. And Naomi was just gone. She wasn't dead or anything. She was just gone from the chair.
Starting point is 01:13:38 So it's like the crow took her. Well, I'm wondering if, be with her. Yeah, I'm wondering if she. like it's it I think it braiding her hair is a good note. I think it's I think it's the idea that it cares about
Starting point is 01:13:53 her and doesn't wish her harm. It the the the ending makes me think and it's it feels similar to two. Well it's interesting is it's two children that are afflicted by something. In the end it seems like they are joining in on what the cult is worshipping.
Starting point is 01:14:09 To me it seems like the crow is the god that those people are worshipped. worshiping the mass, I assume, like I was thinking of like a plague doctor's beak kind of mask and stuff. But I do wonder if she was able to ascend. Like this is a happier version of the last story. Like it seems like this is like maybe she was able to join in or like maybe she was transformed in some way. Uh, that is like not in a flesh wall, but more so maybe she becomes a crow herself or does something that is, uh, acclimiting her into the nature that she loves so much, you know, uh, because it seems like the entity or the God really. Um, uh, really. Um, uh, it seems like the entity or the
Starting point is 01:14:43 God really, she liked her a lot. Well, I will say that her life was miserable, right? Like these parents were cultist monsters and they abused her and all this stuff. So it's almost like when the crow god was probably summoned here
Starting point is 01:14:58 by whatever was going on, it sees her and then it braids her hair and then it takes her away from this, right? So it's like it wanted to save her from what the parents, especially right before they were about to kill her or before our own parents were about to kill her. I also like the end where it's like the sheer number of crows in the garden was alarming.
Starting point is 01:15:17 It's like, did the cultists get turned into crows? Is that the implication why more and more crows show up? Or maybe it's just like, you know, there are crows around the crow god. That or did the or did the cultists get like, did they get a comeuppings and that like are the crows positive spirits? Are they positive entities? You know what I mean? It's, I mean, like it probably makes more sense that the entire cult got turned
Starting point is 01:15:41 into crows of some kind. But regardless, it seems almost like the cult was going, it seemed like the crow god was blessing the girl. And it seemed like they were going to like sacrifice her. And because she was blessed in some kind of way. I mean, I'm reaching, but that's just kind of what I'm taking from it. But once again, a really fun story.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Max, fun stuff. Very fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think, uh, what's interesting is the similarities between both of those stories because
Starting point is 01:16:09 they're both about an older sibling. who is protective over a younger sibling who both of them are the victims of some cult or some practice that their parents are a part of who their parents, in one story, give them over or try to give them over to these dark forces for their own gain or their own selfishness in some way,
Starting point is 01:16:31 even if in the first story, it was just the selfishness of wanting your kid to live forever. And then it ends with the older sibling, reminiscing on hoping the younger siblings okay. Yeah, save you. It seems like the first family in the Rat King story actually loved their children versus the, this story. I don't know if you felt it this way too, but it seemed like almost like the children were just literally a commodity to be sacrificed. Yeah, they were, they were the mother turning and not even like acknowledging the child or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I was like, all right. Yes. Cool. Yeah, it is, it is, they were the fatted calf. They were just saving them for the ritual, whatever it was. to come. Whereas in the first story, the father still did the wrong thing and he was still part of a cult that, you know, turns your kids into these like flesh amalgamations. But it came out of a point of wanting his son to live, not out of like wanting to be younger. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Well, should we... Those are both excellent stories. So check out Max Voinich. Again, he hasn't posted a while. I really want to see more stuff out of him. We'll post him his account in the description and we'll also post the Max Voynich subreddit where people discuss the stories and stuff like that. So be sure to show this guy some love. And Max, if you're watching this, make more stuff. This was awesome. I enjoyed it. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So with that, you're ready to move on to Dopamine? Yeah. Let's finish off with the Doppa Bean story, which is they told me I was nothing but a dog. Yep. And we all, like I said at the beginning, we're all familiar with Dopamine, wrote the incredible story. the Dead Girl in my yard was the best friend I ever had, which is, it might be a top 10 we've ever covered on this show, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Because I think about that story a lot. I know that fans love it. I know that we had a great time reading it. So much emotional depth. It's just, it's hard not to fall in love with the character, like that girl, the character,
Starting point is 01:18:31 the spirit, this entity and just kind of the, the crazy. I don't want to reveal too much in case we have our new, new viewers. If you haven't read that story or heard us talk about it, please listen to that episode or go read the story for yourself because it is. It's really, it's really, really fun. So I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:18:46 There were so many good, like the dialogue moments where the dead girls describing like, oh, well, the birds came with the trees and the first summers and stuff. It was so magical. Hauntingly, like, beautiful, like tragic. Yeah. In my head, it takes up the same real estate as things like Chronicles of Narnia and where the wild things are. Like, it's like a child's almost imagination of this world.
Starting point is 01:19:10 they were on. But it has such a like undertone of death. I mean, she's a dead girl, but also with his sick brother or sick mother and stuff like that. Like gosh, it was just such a good story. But yeah, so Doba Bean killed it. And now we're reading another
Starting point is 01:19:28 story from them. This was posted seven years ago and it's called They Told Me I was nothing but a dog. Once again, Dopa Bean, their account has been deleted because Reddit's lame. But we're going to link their substack and we're going to link the subreddit for the North American
Starting point is 01:19:44 I was it, what's the name of that big series they write? The North American Pantheon will have that linked in the description all their stuff and I'm I'll verify that Dopa Beans is their new account but if it is we'll link that too so be sure to show them some support especially now when they need it so that
Starting point is 01:20:00 out of the way they told me I was nothing but a dog my father named me Laca because when I was born my grandfather told him to treat me like a bad dog father leka was synonymous with dog he used the name to remind me of my place in the hierarchy lesser beneath inferior
Starting point is 01:20:20 nothing but a dog what is yeah leka's the dog the cosmonaut sent up Kayla has a leka tattoo on her arm what when they were born the father said treat nothing but a bad dog that's an insane thing for any human to say. Very, very, not a healthy relationship right now, no.
Starting point is 01:20:46 No, no. A newborn's there and your father shows up, like, treat that nothing but a dog. Like a bad dog. My father met to humiliate and degrade me with such a name, but he honored me instead. You see, Laca was a stray dog from Moscow. On the 3rd of November, 1957, Soviet Union put her on Sputnik 2 and launched her into space. She was the very first animal to orbit Earth. The Soviets knew how to put a rocket into space, but they didn't know how to bring it back. This made Lakers' mission a death sentence.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Shortly after reaching orbit, the interior of Sputnik 2 became catastrophically hot, far too hot for mammals to tolerate. Mere hours after launch, Lincoln died in agonizing death. She perished the same way she'd lived. Lesser, beneath, inferior, abandoned, unloved. loved, nothing but a dog. I spent many hours imagining her terror, pain, and loneliness. How did it feel?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Spending my last hours hurtling through divine darkness in a metal bucket. What must it be like to not understand what I was seen? Why it was suddenly so loud and so hot? What must it be like to not understand why? After being plucked from cruel streets and dropped into a bustling world of kindness, I was now alone. perhaps I wouldn't think I'd been a bad dog perhaps I think this was my punishment
Starting point is 01:22:11 Jesus Christ I'm sad Do what I said Jesus Christ I'm sad I'm sad I'm like God I'm like I'm so sad now This is an insanely heavy opening To a story I have to pull up the picture of your lips
Starting point is 01:22:26 And now there it is Does that make you feel better Slightly Actually it kind of made me even more depressed Honestly Why did the lips make you more depressed we just got to keep going. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Lika is such a tragic tale, I think, about her a lot. Such a cute dog. She was just used for, you know, our understanding of something, but she was a casualty from the beginning. And that had to be so scary for, you know, a little dog, didn't know what was going on. Yeah. Tragic.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That made you feel better, right? me saying that. No, I was like, yeah, I'm really in a good fucking headspace. I'm sure everybody too is just like now just sitting here quietly thinking about existentialism and stuff. It's pretty fun. Do you know the song, uh, Holland, 1945? I love that one. Yeah, that's my favorite song. I'm not crazy about neutral milk hotel, but I love that song. But I see people attribute, uh, the end of the chorus to her all the time, uh, where it's like, uh, and now she rides a comets flame and never coming back again, the world seems better from a star right down from where you are.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yeah. I see all this stuff. It'll be like, like, Kayla's tattoo is Laca, the dog with an astronaut helmet on her. It's just, it's a sweet, what I like about Lakers so much is it was such a tragic moment and it's such a terrible thing in history
Starting point is 01:23:58 where it's like, let's just, let's just kill things. Let's just ruin creation for our understanding of it. Which I understand like disease research stuff. like that, there's a greater purpose. There's an end. But in Lakers' case, it really was just for our knowledge, for our getting to know something. Some life was lost,
Starting point is 01:24:14 and it's tragic. But now there's this reinvigoration of her where people see her as kind of a symbol of tragedy and what was lost. And because of that, they make her beautiful. There's drawings of dogs with helmets and floating through space and on comments and stuff like that. I don't know. I like seeing the art,
Starting point is 01:24:32 like the beauty that comes out of it, you know? Now you're in a good headspace. No, you're really ready to go. Punishment is my mother tongue. I know what it was like to be punished for transgressions. I cannot remember or understand. We hurt so badly my heart rate triples. My mind flies out the window and soars into the stars.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Retracing Lake is doomed flight while my husk worms and weeps on the floor of a dirty house 68 miles below. Even so, I adapted to punishment. As I said, it eventually becomes a language. Given enough time, anyone can learn a language. What I could not adapt to was fear. As a child, I was afraid of everything. You see, in the deepest, most forgotten parts of the world, there are things that most people cannot believe and even fewer would understand.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Old ways, old things, old truths, and old monsters. Monsters like my father and my grandfather. How can I describe this in a way you will believe? Maybe I can't. Maybe I shouldn't try. So instead, I'll describe my grandfather. He was called Pavel. By the time I turned nine, he had gone through six bodies.
Starting point is 01:25:49 By this, I mean, he inhabited them. Using a variant of blood magic perfected by my forebears across many centuries. He let from body to body. Okay. He was not a spirit. He had a corporeal body of his own, twisted, monstrous thing, covered in scars and hard, glittering skin, a body that could shrink to the size of a garden snake
Starting point is 01:26:10 or expand to the size of a house. But for all its marvels, his body was weak. Sunlight burned its eyes and blistered its flesh, so it entered other bodies, like a hand inside a puppet, and wore them until they rotted away. I'll never forget the side of him, of many hymns, in different bodies, his flesh degraded and fell away in wet, discolored strings, or the way his eyes,
Starting point is 01:26:34 hard, round, yellow eyes blended deep within their stolen sockets. Grandfather preferred the bodies of men, but sometimes chose women or children. Once he even wore the body of my mother. I was very young then, perhaps three. And the side of her familiar form standing before the fire sent me into such transports of joy that I bawled from sheer ecstasy. Yes, Kayla just stepped in. We're talking about Lake of the Dog, actually.
Starting point is 01:27:04 this episode, can you show your tattoo? Put it, hold it up. Yeah. Look at that. You got a little helmet. He's wearing the helmet. He's up in space. Oh, like, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Okay, thank you. Then she turned around, and in her bruise sockets, I saw my grandfather's eyes, flat, glittering yellow, like rotted gold. I reared back, screaming. My father,
Starting point is 01:27:32 who had been stroking a pair of old baby shoes, looked at me with contempt so deep it scorched my heart. Shut up, dog! I cringed. This was a mistake. His contempt exploded into disgust. He shot out of his chair and stomped upon me. Dirty, squirmy pain exploded across my abdomen.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I hobbled away, whimpering, and under the stairs. I lay there alone for many hours. Eventually, my mind left my body and soared into the sky, a reverse dive into a sea of stars. I drifted away, dreaming of diamond-colored constellations and red nebula. At my side was a curly-tailed dog with a striped face, my namesake. Laca. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:28:21 That made me really sad, the idea of an abused kid thinking about being in the stars of Laca. It's really... I remember there was this one, this little poem I saw where someone was talking about how Laca is up in space and kind of serves as like a river sticks figure almost for like all astronauts and animals lost in space. Lake of the Guardian, Lake of the Guide. Man. Gosh, that's sad.
Starting point is 01:28:50 That's so rough to read about kids. Not enough. And the story handles it in like a way where it's like part of it and it feels very respectful and like it understands the way to the subject matter, but still. also why would you as a grandfather possess your son's wife or at least your son's like concubine i don't know it's very odd does that seem like some weird incest stuff would happen yeah that seems weird that seems very or just to know what if right now hunter you you allison was like
Starting point is 01:29:29 hey yesterday i was your dad i'd probably kill myself that's the only That's the only option, right? The, uh, which I mean, to be fair, he is like a fucking immortal blood wizard or whatever. So who knows? Who knows what in the mind of a blood wizard, twilight vampire sparkling guy would do? That's true. Who knows? When I woke, I felt her furry and warm.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Chest rising and falling under my hand. I opened my eyes for just an instant I saw her in the shadows. Then she shrank away, sinking into the, the ground. I tried to grab her, but the floor swallowed her. My fingers closed on cold, hard floorboards. I covered my eyes and wept. Several months later, grandfather within mother gave birth to a child. Okay, see? Like, that's weird, right? Huh. It's a little, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Hey, son, I possessed your wife why she gave birth to your child. Treat your, treat your kid like a dog and come over here and have sex with me.
Starting point is 01:30:32 treat your kid like a dog and let me birth my grandchild i'm pregnant son i'm pregnant with your baby yeah this guy's a freak this is not for being like a multi-dimensional spirit demon or whatever he's just weird a baby boy with yellow eyes of my father's curly black hair mere minutes after the birth father picked up the baby and took him outside he returned an hour later empty-handed spurred by horror i immediately ran out into the night. The cold was brutal, but once invigorating and exhausting. I searched until I found the baby, wondering weakly beside a snowdrift. He was still covered in birth blood. I named him Alexander and brought him home. When I walked in, father immediately slapped me. A reeled back of stars rocketed across my vision. Never! He hissed contempt, tripping from every syllable.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Never disobey me again. Give him to me now. He reached for Alexander, the grandfather stopped him. I looked up and swallowed a whimper. Grandfather stared back at me through my mother's rotting face, the mouth puffy and discolored with an oddly detached look, quirked into a smile. No, let the dog keep her pup. We have other concerns.
Starting point is 01:31:53 They certainly did. They worked together and they worked constantly. Father kidnapped victims and grandfather used them. Whenever father brought a new victim to the cabin, grandfather used his hands, long hideous things marked with scars and covered in strange, glittering flesh to tear out the victim's tongue and crush their feet. Then he would wait until nightfall, because remember, sunlight burned grandfather's eyes and blistered his skin and carried them to his chapel.
Starting point is 01:32:20 His chapel was an ancient stone structure at the base of a wooded hill. Within the chapel were three red windows and six rough-hewn pews. At the end of each pew set desiccated corpses facing the altar like sentries. I hated Grandfather's Chapel. The very air weighed upon me whenever I entered, crushing my heart and poisoning my lungs. The worst part was the fear, electric and paralyzing, inescapable. Luckily, I was just a dog. Dogs do not spend much time inside chapels.
Starting point is 01:32:53 The dogs hear screams, even screams from far away, echoing down forested mountains. long into the night. Grandfather did not often leave his chapel, but when he did, it was always in the wee hours of the morning. I know this because my father and I were required to hold vigil until he walked through our door. Whenever grandfather came back from his chapel, he looked human again. Smooth skin, wide smile, good proportions. Sometimes he looked a bit like father. Sometimes he looked like his victim. It was as incomprehensible to me as outer space would have been Alika. The stream of
Starting point is 01:33:29 grandfather's victims never ended. Vakrants, the elderly, travelers, orphans fleeing violence. There were so many. So, so many. You think that
Starting point is 01:33:43 maybe it's saying that that, oh, oh, that's a good stretch. Pop something. You think that it's saying that this isn't actually a grandfather.
Starting point is 01:34:00 father, this is like a demon or something that the father invited in years ago. And I was just kind of worshipping. It seems, I mean, it's got to be something like that. I mean, I'm still wondering why this motherfucker even had a kid. Like, why even have? Why keep one? Yeah. The only thing I'm thinking is that if during the, during the man's, when he was with
Starting point is 01:34:20 his wife, during the pregnancy, they had the kid. And then between that moment and when the kid was born, he had made some deal with some kind of monster to where then the monster was just like. yeah, you got to treat that thing like a fucking dog or whatever. You know, otherwise, why would it be this generational thing? Or unless it's similar to our last story, coincidentally, the crow one, and the, they need the kid for something. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Once like it gets to a certain age, they're needed for a ritual. Well, with the, the continuous theme and the callback of LICA, I mean, it is going to be some kind of sacrifice for some kind of exploration or some kind of, you know, in this case, You weren't supposed to give that away. You just told the audience what the theme for the episode is. I can't figure that out yet. Okay. Well, it's been two episodes.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And we're talking about Lika, which was sacrificed for science, I guess, if you want to call it that. You mean the real religion. Yeah. Well, the people's religion. That's what I read it post the other day. Some lady posted it was in like our slet,
Starting point is 01:35:27 whatever town she was in San Francisco, Denver, whatever. She was like, hey, my kid is really interested in Christianity. And she wants to go to Sunday school. I'm not a Christian and my husband used to be. So we're just wondering if there's any churches in the area. Thanks. And the top of applause.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Someone said, you should check out the local science center. Well, maybe teach your kid a real religion. Anyway. If it weren't for Alexander, I would have withered into nothing. He was more than a brother to me. For all intents and purposes, he was my son. Neither father nor grandfather cared for him. And he didn't even feed or clothe him.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I had to feed and dress him with what little I had. Despite my best efforts, he never learned to speak. That isn't to say he couldn't communicate. He could, with gestures and facial expressions and nonsense syllables, the language alluded him. But it was all right. He grew into a sweet, curious boy with freckles and long, delicate hands. Over time, his terrible yellow eyes mellowed to a clear, bright green.
Starting point is 01:36:43 He was my life, he was my heart. But he wasn't enough. One night, as the little girl's screams came shrieking down the mountain from Grandfather's Chapel, I finally went to my father. I lay prostrate at his feet, which is how he taught me to approach him. The wooden floor was rough and painfully cold under my fingers. Why, father, why do you do this? He sat in his chair watching the fire, and his hands he yelled a pair of white baby shoes.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Because your grandfather and I must live little dog. Will I have to do this to live? Yes. Then I don't want to live. I understand. He said, his grip tightened on the shoes. But you do not have a choice. I choked back a sob and waited for the dismissal.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I could not come to him without crawling And I could not leave until he told me so Instead he said Stand up like a Hearing my name was like being doused in ice water Never used it By that point in fact I'd almost forgotten I had a name
Starting point is 01:37:47 I said stand up likea It was a struggle to obey Fear made my bones rubbery and my muscles weak Father held out the baby shoes What do you see Shoes Old baby shoes Those shoes belonged to my sister Alexandra.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I loved her more than anything. More than life, more than my parents. More than your mother. More than you. She was my heart. I watched him. The firelight threw his face in a relief, creating crevices out of wrinkles. His curly black hair shifted like smoke and his long, sharp nose looked strange and monstrous.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Paralytic electricity swarmed my skin, so much like the chapel that I could have wept. On my twelfth birthday, your grandfather boiled a pot of oil and called Alexander to him. She and I were going to pick wild flowers later. So she dressed in her finest clothes. A blue dress and white shoes. These shoes. Father did not speak for a very long while. She was my heart.
Starting point is 01:38:56 He finally repeated. When my heart broke, I broke it. It made me like grandfather. Someday I will be just like him. I will live forever. You will too. That night I had a nightmare of a little girl with sunken yellow eyes, melting into blisters as my mother's rotted body doused her with boiling oil.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I woke screaming. Moonlight streamed through the window, drenching my room in celestial silver. My heart thumped so wildly that I could see my night shirt moving. I wanted to escape. I wanted it to escape too, because without it, I would die. When I was dead, I could sail the stars with the other Leica. Small, warm hands touched my face. I turned expecting Alexander.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Instead, I saw my nightmare. Great and flame blisters bubbled and burst sending rivulets of, pussed down her tiny raw face. The skin around its mouth had burned away, leaving neat rows of milk teeth fully exposed, burned scalp and dull bone glended through black curly hair. The blue dress clung to her body, oiled dripped from them, soaking my blanket. He whispered. Alexander stirred between us. Get out. The girl's blistered chin quivered.
Starting point is 01:40:27 But you made me come here. Please let me sleep. All right. I whispered, because I do not know what else to say. The girl burrowed under my blanket. I watched aghast as she threw a bony, burnt arm across Alexander and drifted to sleep. That night, I did not sail to stars with Lika.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Instead, I set awake, watching the apparition with mingled excitement and fear. Just before dawn, my door creaked open. I tried to shield the girl as my father stepped into the room. What is that? Please. Please don't. The girl shifted and incredibly began to shrink.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Her body flattened into nothing, leaving her dress crumbled on the floor. That sank away too, leaving the cold, empty floor in its wake. What was that? I saw it in my sleep. Her, not it! I saw her in my sleep. When I woke up, she was here. Sweat gleamed on father's skin, reminded me of stars.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Kid dressed. You must see your grandfather immediately. Felt my hands and knees and crawled to him. No. Stand up. Bring the boy. Alex Ech's, because they did that,
Starting point is 01:41:47 I imagine now that it's time for their turn where they have to sacrifice Alexander. Yeah. The like is going to have to sacrifice Alexander. Yeah. Alexander wept angrily when I picked him up. I ignored him and followed father into the dark forest. The full glory of early spring bathed the landscape. Hell beams of light shafted through the canopy,
Starting point is 01:42:08 cutting the thick shadows with gold. Berman crept through the undergrowth and deer watched from a distance. The forest was always full of animals. Grandfather was no danger to the birds or beast after all. Soon the chapel came into view, an ancient little church with a black spire, red windows, and frost and crested stones. I love, I mean, we've,
Starting point is 01:42:29 There's been a ton of videos or episodes we've done that revolve around like an old steeple church in the woods, like spire in the woods and stuff. And I always love it, especially like in Deep Woods, the first part of Deep Woods, where you get the impression that hundreds of years back, there was some ritual that was performed here or there was some spell. And now everything we see is the influence of that. Yeah, the aftermath. For sure.
Starting point is 01:42:55 It all began. Yeah. Yeah. I love that trope. It gets me every time. Father ushered us inside. The moment I crossed the threshold, my skin began to crawl. Dread and fear swept over me.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Alexander burst into tears. Father shoved me toward the altar. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw the sentry corpses twitching. Chest rose and fell in jagged, senseless rhythms. One especially tall corpse with long copper hair turned as I passed. I covered Alexander's eyes and stopped at the altar. Shadows thickened and rised against the back wall. Back in the pews, bones clattered and dried joints creaked.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Something blinked in the darkness behind the altar. Great, flat eyes like golden moons, shining in the cold shadows. Grandfather. The dark. Grandfather intoned. And who pop? He snarled, a deep bone-shaking rumble like that of a tiger. Teeth glinted in the shadows, a shining ivory arc wider than father's entire head.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Pavell, she had a nightmare. When she woke, it followed her out of the dream. It came alive. I saw it. Our little dog has talent after all. All good and well. If she loves her pup, do you love your pup dog? You heard up from the shadows, twisted and sinewy and utterly inhuman.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Do you love him or do you feel obligated to him? I opened my mouth to answer. Instead, I burst into tears. Grandfather laughed, a low roar that shook dust from the rafters overhead. A weak bitch indeed. Our hope is in the boy, Miguel. It was always been the boy. That is why we made him.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Now go. Those great yellow eyes flick to the pews. To tempt my sentries. Not when they are hungry as they are. Beer and disbelief battled across father's weathered face. Do you not understand what I've told you? She creates life from thoughts. A poor substitute from what we require.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Leave Miguel. But... Grandfather rocketed out of the shadows. A rippling mass of glittering skin and malform limbs. knocked father to the stones. The corpse sentries uttered a deep sigh and continued to twitch. Never! Grandfather snarled.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Sunlight poured through the crimson windows, imbueing him strange hide with a red flow. He looked like the sky, a starry piece of outer space. Never defy me! I waited breathlessly for grandfather's eyes to burst and his skin to sizzle. He was, after all, exposed to daylight, but it did not. Many moments later, Grandfather struck father across the face and whipped back into the darkness. We left. Father did not speak again until the cottage came into sight, and he grabbed me and dragged me off the path.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Listen, listen, Will. I can protect you from him, Ben. He looked down at Alexander, eyes blazing with disgust. When the time comes, I can protect you from him, too. But only if you help me. Why should I need protection? He's small and loves me as a mother. Do you remember the story of Alexandra?
Starting point is 01:46:44 I nodded. Your story is coming. Only Alexander will be me. And you will be Alexandra. My heart fell to the cold earth. Carefully pressed Alexander's head into my shoulder, shielding his face from father. Listen, dog. When next you dream of my son.
Starting point is 01:47:04 sister. His voice broke. Pulled away and ran his fingers through his hair. Tears shone in his eyes, which were huge and miserable over his quivering mouth. When she comes again. All right, father. I'd never seen him weep before. The sight was frightening and curiously thrilling.
Starting point is 01:47:27 I will. Father nodded curtly and laughed. I nearly followed, but thought better of it. Instead, he stayed in the forest with Alexander. Interesting. So it's like there's this discrepancy between father and grandfather where he thinks that Alexander's not worthy, I guess, and he would rather it be his daughter, even though he hates her, because I don't know. Interesting. I will say I really love when it was describing his flesh, the red flesh, and said it looked like the nebula of space. That works so well with the Laca metaphor, the story's been chasing, where like space was this unknowable impossibility to Laca. And now we see that. same image reflected in the skin of Grang and Father. Right. That's such a cool motif.
Starting point is 01:48:12 As the morning brightened and birdsonged swelled to a symphony, I set Alexander upon the narrow path. He ran forward. I'm in a tune of his own composition. Shadow and sunlight dappled his skin, turning him into a woodland sprite. Trees were in full bloom. Petals drifted down like snow,
Starting point is 01:48:30 carpeting the earth and glistening white. Alexander pulled ahead. After a while, I couldn't hear or see him. He drifted away, slipping under the deep shadows. Panic overtook me. Alexander? Alexander! I rushed ahead, grimacing against the pain of my chest.
Starting point is 01:48:49 My heart thumped wildly. So hard I could see my shirt move. Wanted to escape again. Alexander! He darted from between the trees. I halted. Overcome with relief so powerful, I took my breath away. Petals covered his head and shoulders.
Starting point is 01:49:03 As I watched, one drifted down and settled on his nose. Wide, green eyes glimmered above it, bright as the promise of spring. For the first time in my life, my heart was so full that I wept. That night, Alexandra came to me again, blistered flesh tripping down her face. Her eyes had melted away, being raw, swollen masses of flesh in her melted sockets. Remembering my instructions, I set up. Father? I quivered.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Alexander reached for me blindly, running, ruined hands closing on shadows. Father! Father burst into my room, gasping. Alexander! He shot forward, arms extended as if to sweep her up. She turned.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Father froze. Alexandra tottered towards him. Miguel. My eyes hurt. Father collapsed and covered his eyes as Alexandra approached. She left a trail of pus and oil, shining like a tiny river in the moonlight.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Or sorry, Mikhail, my hands hurt. Father weased miserably. Mikhail, my skin is on fire and it drips away. She stopped before him and crouched. Father whimpered and whined like a beaten dog, twisting away from her hands. She set her small hand on his cheek. Father squalled and rised,
Starting point is 01:50:29 but couldn't break away from her. McHale She wept You are just like him now She jerked and began to shrink To sink Disappearing into the floor The moment her hand fell away
Starting point is 01:50:43 Father leapt up to his feet and ran After that He did not ask to see Alexandra This is good Because I did not see her in my dreams after that I only saw Leica Oh that makes sense as to why Earlier in the story she saw the vision of the dog
Starting point is 01:50:59 I didn't put that together until just now that the reason she saw the dog is because she has this power to bring life. Yeah. I spent most nights drifting among the stars with that dear doomed dog at my side. Imagine or not, sights were glorious, incomprehensibly beautiful star formations, planets, great multicolored expanses of celestial myths. Sometimes I woke, gliery and incoherent, felt her fur against my skin. By the time I opened my eyes, there was nothing.
Starting point is 01:51:29 One winter morning, I woke very early. My stomach growled immediately and no wonder. Father had it fed me for days. I fed Alexander with table scraps and tree bark. That, I decided, would change today. I crept into the kitchen. There wasn't much, there never was, but I scraped together what little I could and turned around. My grandfather sat at the table, great golden eyes shimmering in his terrible face.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Little bitch. What have you done to your father? He no longer hunts. He no longer eats. He no longer obeys. I felt like I was back in his chapel, crushed by darkness, heavy with dread, on the verge of panic. Your ability has not been seen on this earth for a thousand years or more. Of course, the ability wasn't of Earth.
Starting point is 01:52:25 I'd no doubt come across it while sailing through space and breathing star dust. It's just nightmares. No. You take the dark things of the world, the fear, the hate, the pain, and channel them into physical form. And that is just the beginning. You will be able to do anything. You will make bodies, permanent, perfect bodies for me and for you. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:52:58 then why be so dismissive of her? If she can make you a perfect body, idiot. I think that if you are like this is an omnipotent being, I think he probably wants to, it's kind of like Zeus or it's like Kronos being afraid of Zeus or something. It's like almost like this thing is going to kill and replace me, maybe. So maybe he's just like making it.
Starting point is 01:53:22 He's making a like a feel lower than what it actually is. potentially yeah because his whole thing is subservience I guess so it's like you have to continue to make it a dog so it doesn't get ideas but also he also probably just didn't know
Starting point is 01:53:38 that she that you know she had that power until now yeah yeah the relish in his voice made me sick he said our women have always been
Starting point is 01:53:48 weak and talentless I thought the same of you little bitch tears pricked my eyes and my bones thrumed as if struggling break through flesh and run away. It was no use.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Destiny had already bloomed between my grandfather and I, heavy and foul with the promise of despair. Grandfather whispered, Listen closely, for you only hear this once. I was wrong. He left. I ran to the window and watched him hurtle through the trees
Starting point is 01:54:19 as sunrise threatened, back to his chapel. I waited until the sun was up. Then I ran to my room. bundled Alexander in every bit of clothing I could find and left. He followed the path for many miles. Our home was hours and hours from the nearest town. Couldn't reach into a long past nightfall.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I could only hope the grandfather wouldn't notice our absence until the following day. It wasn't an unlikely hope. Grandfather spent most of his time in the chapel. The second this thought crossed my mind, a glittering dark shape left out of the trees and knocked Alexander from my arms. I caught a blur of twisted limbs. limbs and nightmarish hands of great yellow eyes like flattened moons. Alexander screamed as a torn of blood splattered across the snow.
Starting point is 01:55:04 It sank quickly, melting red canyons through the pristine white. Grandfather at me, narrowing sides heaving. Then he leaned down, tore out Alexander's throat. Screamed, birds took flight and mammals ran through the undergrowth. The piercing note echoed off the mountains. The pain within it should have ended the world. But there was no one to hear, no one to care. Grandfather grinned.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Alexander's blood and sinews clung to his teeth. I broke. I felt it. Crushing weight of sorrow. The almost physical sensation of my spirit tearing and bleeding out into my guts. I fell to my knees and cradled Alexander's head for hours. My father finally found us around nightfall. He had a heel of bread and an oily chicken leg.
Starting point is 01:55:54 He pressed him both into my hands. then left. I tore the bread into pieces and dropped them, one by one, into Alexander's mouth. When he did not wake, I burst into tears and hurled the chicken leg into the woods. The moon rose into the cruel, dark sky. Stars glimmered through the bare branches overhead,
Starting point is 01:56:13 creating a breathtaking fractal pattern. I plop down beside Alexander, pulling him to my body. He was cold, terribly cold. I held him anyway, keep my eyes trained on the stars. My mind attached with great difficulty, like it was trapped in tar. Finally, it wrenched itself free and sailed upward,
Starting point is 01:56:35 disappearing into a silvery sea of sky and stars, rocketing ever higher until I saw the earth spinning below. Lika's rocket zoomed past. I reached out and caught one of the metal bars near the nose. I could sense Lika within, her terror vibrated through the craft and leached into my bloodstream. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:56:55 It's all right, Lika. I'm here. When you land, we'll help you out and we will play together. Her fear diminished, and so did her pain. So did mine. Together we sailed the stars,
Starting point is 01:57:08 looking upon the earth, marveling of the incomprehensible beauty around us. I woke cold, sore, and am more pain than I can describe. Man, something about story, just the idea of a child being in such an awful, I mean, obviously this is like a supernatural abusive situation, but the idea of a child being in like a, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:32 such a physically distressing, you know, painful position and taking comfort in the dog who had to go through something like that too. And then not only having the dog as a comfort, but wanting to comfort it. Yeah, as I was going to say, just the idea of something being like, it's also more tragic too that it's understanding how horrible situation is.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Yeah. And like looking up to something being like, don't worry, we'll get through this and we'll play together. It's just, yeah, heartbreaking. Yeah. I woke cold, sore, and in more pain than I can describe. I set up, Alexander's stiff body broke away from mine. I reached for him blindly.
Starting point is 01:58:10 A thin scream of ice covered his eyes. The wound in his throat was an open horror. When I couldn't look at for long. I drew my knees to my chin and wept. After a while, something warm. bumped my hand. Wet nose touched my palm. I knew what I would see long before I opened my eyes.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Like a striped face and dear curly tail made me smile, even through my tears. Stars glimmered through her fur, gently pulsing pinpricks of light. What is this? Grandfather's voice echoed through the trees. Rage flowed through my blood, exquisitely corrosive. hate, I learned then. It's pleasurable. It is fury and it is the basis of power.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Grandfather erupted from the darkness, scald skin shimmering like a river under the moonlight. You waste your talent on a mutt. Not even on your own pup. No matter. Laca reared up and leapt. Snout piercing one of grandfather's flat moon eyes. He screamed and shook his head back and forth.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Like it fell to the snow, twisting and quickly righted herself. Then she bit his foot. Her teeth sank through that impenetrable immortal hide like butter. Lega was not large enough or strong enough to kill him, but she tore holes in him the way a match scorch his holes in paper. Soon grandfather was on his knees,
Starting point is 01:59:43 mere feet from Alexander's corpse. Liga came to me, panting and collapsed to my lap. She bled from a thousand wounds, some small, some undoubtedly mortal. Good talk. My voice broke. I stroked her gently, willing those wounds to close. I was a monster.
Starting point is 02:00:04 I used to like it just like the others had. Calling her down on false pretenses, filling her with hope, for throwing her into the void. Good girl. I looked up his grandfather's good eye, slid to my dead brother. Something dark blew him there. A wicked, corrupted hope. He curled in on himself, twisted body,
Starting point is 02:00:28 shrinking to a withered husk and slid down Alexander's throat. I screamed as Alexander's body twitched and juttered. Then he set up, bones creaking and frozen sinews cracking. He smiled, his eyes shone like molten gold in a forge. Laca attacked again. Alexander's face curled into a snarl as she bit and tore his skin, exhibiting an energy at odds with her awful wounds. I watched, helpless and hoping and hurting,
Starting point is 02:00:58 wishing I could detach and fly into the stars once more, except there would be nothing there for me now. I'd called like a down from the stars and doomed her. Snow crunched behind me. I whirled around. Father stood there, watching me with contempt, and his hands was a sleek, gleaming shotgun. Relief and horror engulfed me.
Starting point is 02:01:20 This was the end. My mind would detach wherever this time. The fear would finally end. like a bit down on grandfather within Alexander who hit her she whined but held fast father stalked past me and cocked the gun no don't hurt her don't hurt her father pointed the gun at Alexander's head and fired
Starting point is 02:01:43 blood and viscera and dark glittering flesh exploded across the snow father fired again then reloaded and fired again Alexander's head evaporated into red mist Finally his body lurched And grandfather Small pleading, scaled grandfather Slythered out of his throat Like a cot and held him
Starting point is 02:02:08 Father pressed the barrel of the gun against his good eye And pulled the trigger as the sun broke over the mountains Father stepped back I reached for him drunk on hope and gratitude He recalled for me In his withered face, I saw a despair, rage, and contempt. He kept his eyes trained on mine as he placed the gun in his mouth.
Starting point is 02:02:31 No! He pulled the trigger. Half his head evaporated, leaving a glistening mass like a fleshy geode. His body stumbled forward a step and crumpled to the snow. Took a very long time for the sun to burn grandfather down to dirty oil. Like I held on until the last scrap of skin melted. Then she stumbled to me and collapsed. I stroked her until her body shrank and sank into the ground,
Starting point is 02:02:58 leaving nothing but a scattering of tiny dim orbs, the stars I'd seen in her fur. I touched one. It was pleasantly hot. I gathered them up and slipped them into my pocket. I went to Alexander's body, ravaged beyond description, broken in ways that did not seem entirely real, and sat with him until nightfall.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Then I stood and walked away, and life went on. At first I brought them back from my nightmares, Alexander, father, grandfather, even Alexandra. But I quickly taught myself to starve and eventually kill my ability. It's not a good power. It's born of rage, despair, selfishness, and fear. And I cannot tolerate fear. besides dogs do not have such awful powers
Starting point is 02:03:53 it is good to be a dog because they're not necromancers they're not monsters they're nothing more or less the simplest most loving of creatures that's why I'll always be Blake of the dog when that is the end
Starting point is 02:04:10 wow yeah what a great one man I uh what I love about dopamine stuff is that the way that they write, it almost feels like these are like entirely fantasy. Like they're like it almost feels like you're in the fucking landscape of like a jibbley film or something. Yeah. We're obviously in these times where at least the Russian experiment went.
Starting point is 02:04:34 So at least we're in the 50s at most 60s. Uh, but it feels like these things like just being in the woods and having the chapel. It's not like it really like addresses it. I mean like we hear about it and we know it's there, but in my mind the way that they write about nature, especially like the mammals and the animals that live in nature. It just makes it sound so fantastical.
Starting point is 02:04:56 And these stories always wind up being these kind of like grand fantastical conclusions as well. I mean, I kept picturing the grandfather as just this giant. I mean, like I kept, I don't know why. I kept picturing the giant like the bathhouse owner and spirited away. Like the big nose and,
Starting point is 02:05:17 you know, flying around and all that kind of. of. Oh, the witch. Yeah. It makes me think of it. It makes me think of that. I just say it's really very interesting too. The parallels too with like of the dog and even the narrator calling the dog at the end and using it the same way that like the Russians did obviously in a different context, but feeling that kind of like guilt and shame at the end was just so touching. And also too, what a fun way for the author to be able to write a way of like like a being able to come in and like bite and help kill the people that sent her out to space, you know?
Starting point is 02:05:52 Yeah. Uh, yeah. And a lot of ways in, in so many different ways of, this would be so hard to pull off of being like, yes, literally like of the dog shows up and helps defeat the monster. Like that sentence alone sounds so absurd,
Starting point is 02:06:05 but I was so bought in. And I love that the way that they just set it up that, yes, the person can conjure these things from their dreams. To help them. It just was just wonderful. just really, really wonderful. Dopamine has such a great way of writing and it's just such a treat
Starting point is 02:06:21 every time we get to read it. I like the parallels between the like a story and like what's happening here and I like how grandfather's kind of a stand in for the Russians. What was the, what was his name Pav? Pavol? Yeah, almost, I thought it was
Starting point is 02:06:39 Pavlov for a second, which I thought was like a philosophy. The dog, yeah. Um, have all cultism. I feel like that's a name from something. No,
Starting point is 02:06:55 maybe not. But it's interesting, like the, I feel like the name Pavel would mean something, but. Sounds like a demonic entity. Yeah. Which I looked up and it's,
Starting point is 02:07:06 I'm not seeing anything immediately. Well, to be fair, it's just something from a different time. I mean, even references that, you know, this earth hasn't seen
Starting point is 02:07:14 your power in thousands of years or more. So he would have to know about that. Maybe he isn't that old. But in my mind when I read that, I was like, this is like an immortal being that has been around for thousands of years. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Yeah. Very well it could be. But man, it always obviously is heavy like children, you know, being put in stressful situations. But I think this was done respectfully. I think it was done with an appropriate way.
Starting point is 02:07:42 And I'd like the connection between, like this suffering and then like like of the like of the dog suffering and stuff like that like you said all the stuff that had to come together for it to make sense and not seem like uh jumping the shark to have laco show up in the story and help at the end but it came there's it was set up appropriately that i think it worked yeah no i think it worked really well i think that it handles the themes in a great way in a very influenced way that's just a lot of fun and i just like i said every time we get to read dope a bean i mean this is just the second story but it's just so a fantastical big experience that they just feel so they feel so uh tonally its own you know like
Starting point is 02:08:21 it just it dives into that fantastical territory in such a way that it almost instantly i'm just like oh yeah this is a dope bean story which i think is just really yeah really fun yeah like i said it feels very uh like uh narnia very like otherworldly you know legendary journey the kids go on kind of thing um there was something i was going to say about, oh, I also kind of like how the ending of the story almost goes with what I was saying earlier, how Laca is such an interesting figure
Starting point is 02:08:52 because she was one thing, but now culturally she's been made into something so different, almost as a way of saying sorry to what she originally was. And here at the end of the story, we have our, we have our Laca, the person,
Starting point is 02:09:06 physically called down Lika the dog, and then even then it suffers. So it's almost like a, It may not been going for this at all. But it's almost like a statement about, like the line at the end, it's good to be a dog because they're not necromancers. The idea of bringing back these old tragedies for your own use or your own purpose,
Starting point is 02:09:28 it's almost better to just be something that shows compassion rather than something that twists meaning and desire for one's own purpose, even if the purpose is altruistic. I don't know. I feel like there's something there. Abandoning the powers and the, the the line of dogs aren't necromancers. To me, it just seems that dogs are the epitome of innocence. And man, no matter good or bad, will always have corruption.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Like the power is fueled off hatred. I think it's just another thing that just shows that like man is, like it's better to be that of a dog than it is a man or whatever just because they are at its core good. You know, I think that's kind of the idea. But man, you know, for a thing. theme today of being sacrificed. What a fun three stories we got to read. Really enjoyed getting to get in on Max's stories for the first time. And those are a lot of fun. But all in all, it's always fun to do a grab bag. And I feel like all of these today were just great, really,
Starting point is 02:10:26 really great, especially after some last week's debacle. So, you know, nice little palate cleanser. Thank you so much to our audio listeners over on Spotify and Apple Podcast. And of course, thank you to our patrons who do support the channel as well and get a little bit of extra content on the side. Until next time, guys, stay safe. And hey, pet your dog. Pet your dog on the head. All right. Needs a little pet. Go ahead. We'll take a little break for a second.
Starting point is 02:10:51 All right. There you go. Thank you guys. And also, be sure to support Dumpabine at the links in the description. Again, they lost the Reddit account. So support them all they need it. And also check out all of Max Voinich's stuff. Incredible authors. Always like supporting people to write good stories because I like seeing more good stories get made. So be sure to show them some love if you can. It would mean the world. And also be sure.
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