Crime, Conspiracy, Cults and Murder - Ep. 39 | These Serial Killers Are STILL Out There
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But if you're over 40, you've felt it.
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That's not willpower.
It's biology.
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Metabolism slows.
Your body stops responding the way it used to.
Maximus is the online clinic that reverses your decline
with prescription performance medicines,
GLP-1s, testosterone, and peptides that reduce belly fat,
restore energy, and boost recovery.
Over 50,000 high performers have already broken.
broken through their plateaus.
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Imagine a killer so meticulous, so careful that even decades later, investigators are still
baffled.
Four ruthless murderers terrorized their communities, leaving behind horrifying crime scenes,
and unanswered questions.
And each one had a very distinct method, a chill.
pattern of violence and a haunting ability to evade capture.
And despite years of investigation, shifting theories, and modern forensic advancements,
the identities remain a mystery.
Were these crimes the work of singular calculating individuals, or is there something
more sinister lurking beneath the surface?
Today we explore four of the most perplexing, unsolved serial murder cases.
Killers who disappeared into the shadows and perhaps are still
out there. Crime, conspiracy, cults, serial killers, and murder, all things that I love to consume,
and I know you do too, you sick, beautiful, intellectually minded freak. And today we are doing just
that. We are talking about serial killers that have evaded capture and that could possibly be
still out there, which is absolutely horrifying. And that's what I'm telling you today, because I want
you to be safe. My little baby girl, I want you to be safe. Okay. If you're a 40-year-old man watching
this, I'm calling you baby girls well.
All right. So without further ado, let's unbuckle our seatbelts, go Mark V down the highway,
slam on the brakes, and bust through this windshield into these four unsolved murder, serial
killer cases together.
All right, before I get started, I need to put on my freaking glasses because I can't see.
Gather around because now is Chris Reed's screams.
Wow.
Oakland County, Michigan, 1976.
Tree lines, suburban streets stretched across affluent communities north of Detroit,
where children played freely in the parks and rode bicycles without supervision.
You know, the good old days.
Not that I was alive back then.
And the area embodied middle-class American security.
Well-maintained homes with manicured lawns, good schools,
and a pervasive sense of safety that would soon become shattered.
And during this period before cellular phones and instant communication
in the interwebs, children regularly ventured out until dusk, expected to return home when the street
lights illuminated. In this environment, a perceived safety created the perfect hunting ground for a predator
who would eventually launch what became the largest manhunt in U.S. history at the time,
involving a task force that would process over 18,000 tips and interrogate more than 1,500 suspects.
So in the quiet suburban neighborhoods of Oakland County, Michigan, a Chile, a children,
series of events unfolded between 1976 and 1977 that would forever change the community's sense of security.
The area, known for its affluent neighborhoods and family-friendly atmosphere, became the hunted ground
for one of America's most methodical child killers. And the nightmare would begin on February 15,
19th, 1976, when 12-year-old Mark Stebbins left the American Legion Hall in Ferndale.
And what should have been a routine walk home turned into an irreversible tragedy.
Four days after his disappearance, Mark's body would be discovered in a Southfield parking lot,
carefully arranged on a pile of wood and dirt.
And the autopsy revealed a disturbing level of premeditation,
which is essentially planning the murder before it happened.
Mark had been strangled and essayed with a foreign object.
And the rope marks on his wrist and ankles indicated he had been bound during his captivity.
While two lacerations on his head suggested violent trauma.
Just a real special place in the depths of the asshole of hell for the person who did this.
It's just sickening.
And obviously, police would investigate, but they would come up with nothing.
And less than a year later, on December 22nd, 1976, another family's world would collapse when 12-year-old Jill Robinson left home after arguing with her mother.
Her bicycle was recovered behind a hobby store the following day.
But Jill herself remained missing until December 26th, when her body was discovered alongside Interstate 75 in Troy.
And perhaps most disturbing was the evidence that she had been cared for during the three days before her murder,
still wearing her backpack and fully clothed when found.
So the killer was obviously a fucking monster,
but there was a side of him that had remorse for these kids
or felt like he still needed to treat them like kids,
like actually care for them.
But it's just like, it's not even like in the realm of okay.
There's no, like, oh, that's kind of, no, no.
He literally killed these kids.
And the pattern continued on January 2nd, 1977,
when 10-year-old Christine Malick vanished after visiting a 7-Eleven store.
And her ordeal lasted 19 days before her body was recovered on a rural road in Franklin Village.
And the killer had smothered Christine less than 24 hours before the placement of her body,
which was positioned very carefully within view of nearby homes.
A signature of the perpetrator's methodical approach.
He wanted these kids to be found.
The premeditation and planning before these murders is just, like, insane.
Like, he thought about how he was going to do it, when he was going to do it,
and exactly how they were going to be found, and probably when they were going to be found as well.
And the final confirmed victim, 11-year-old Timothy King disappeared on March 16, 1977,
during a trip to a local pharmacy.
And when found, six days later, in a shallow ditch along Gill Road in Livonia,
Timothy had been essayed with a foreign object as well as the first victim and also suffocated.
And most disturbingly, he had been fed Kentucky Fried Chicken, his favorite meal, shortly before his death.
So it's like the killer is trying to make up for everything that he did at the end of it,
just thinking that that's going to wipe his slate clean in any way, shape, or form,
when it's obviously not the case.
He deserves to be...
Well, maybe I shouldn't say what he deserves because I'm thinking a lot of things,
and I don't think I could legally say it on the internet.
But what distinguished these murders from other serial killers
was the meticulous attention paid to the victims.
Each body was found in public areas, meticulously cleaned and dressed,
and the unnerving level of care to the perpetrator being dubbed the babysitter killer.
And despite the different causes of death,
investigators link the cases through consistent physical evidence,
including golden carpet fibers and white animal hair found on all the victim's clothing.
And those golden carpet fibers and white animal hair would lead investigators down a very disturbing
path, directly to a network of wealthy individuals with connections to child exploitation.
Just the fucking scum of the earth.
And as detectives pursued these forensic clues, they uncovered a case far more complex than a lone predator,
suggesting the possibility of powerful figures working to ensure certain suspects remained beyond the reach of justice.
Just corrupt fucking bullshit.
So Christopher Bush emerged as one of the most compelling suspects in the investigation.
The son of a wealthy General Motors executive, Bush had already been convicted as a EDF, aisle,
and maintain connections to an organized child corn network operating in North.
Fox Island. And the timing proved particularly suspicious. Police had questioned Bush shortly before
Timothy King's abduction. And more disturbingly, evidence would link him to a child exploiting ring run by
Francis Sheldon, suggesting access to vulnerable children through an established network, which is just
like mind-boggling and horrifying to think about. And it's just, it's something that happens every day and
that people just, I mean, you know, turn a blind eye too. And it's just so horrifying because it
happens in other countries, but it is also happening in our backyards. So, I mean, I think
it's an important topic no matter what. And in November, 1978, investigators discovered
Bush dead from what appeared to be sluerslide. Just easy way out. Piece of shit. And a scene
raised immediate red flags. Blood-stained ropes lay nearby, and a hand-drawn image resembling
victim Mark Stebbins hung on his wall. And the suspicious circumstances intensified when the entire
Oakland County task force disbanded just days after Bush's death, having exhausted a $2 million budget.
And some investigators later suggested his death may have been staged to prevent him from
revealing accomplices of power associates, which sounds right to me. Yet the case against Bush
collapsed in 2012, when DNA testing excluded him as a contributor to biological evidence found
on the victims. I bet you didn't expect that. And this forensic setback occurred despite the
wealth of circumstantial evidence pointing to his involvement, which I still think he was involved
in some way. Absolutely. Other suspects presented equally promising,
yet ultimately inconclusive leads.
Ted Lamborghini,
I know, a Detroit auto worker,
I know, who operated a pito ring
in the cast corridor during the same period,
became a primary suspect in 2005.
And convicted murderer Richard Lawson
implicated Lamborghini during an interview,
but when offered a plea deal
to reduce a sentence in exchange for taking a polygraph
regarding the Oakland County murders,
Lamborghini refused.
just scum of the earth.
And DNA evidence brought investigators to convicted PDF-Ile, Ark Sloan in 2012.
When forensic testing revealed that hairs found on the victims, matched hair recovered from Sloan's vehicle.
And curiously, the DNA didn't match Sloan himself, suggesting someone who had been in his car,
or that he let borrow his car for, you know, nefarious murderous reasons.
But perhaps most telling was James Vincent Gunnells, who had actually been essayed by Christopher
Bush as a teenager.
And forensic testing found his DNA potentially matched a hair on victim Christine Millieck,
though the statistical probability being only one to 150 proved too low for conclusive
identification.
And Gunnals has consistently denied any involvement.
So time marched relentlessly forward while justice stood still.
And nearly five decades after the horrific killings that terrorized Oakland County,
the case remains unsolved despite remarkable advances in forensic technology.
And for Timothy King's father, Barry, the quest for answers became his life's mission,
which like, how could it not being a parent?
You know, I just like, ah, my heart just goes out to all these families.
And this journey unfortunately ended in 2020 when he passed away without ever learning who murdered his son.
And the systemic investigative failures point to disturbing possibilities.
An exceptionally meticulous killer who left minimal evidence,
protection of connected individuals through institutional interference,
or fundamental errors in the initial investigation that can never be remedied.
But whatever the truth, the Oakland County Child Killer case
stands as a sobering reminder that even with extensive resources,
justice remains tragically elusive for some victims.
leaving their families to endure the cruelest of uncertainties.
But my heart goes out to the victims and the victim's families.
And whoever did this, I hope you're rotting in hell.
Let's move on.
You train, you track, you eat right.
But if you're over 40, you've felt it.
The results don't match the effort anymore.
That's not willpower.
It's biology.
Hormones drop.
Metabolism slows.
Your body stops responding the way it used to.
Maximus is the online clinic that reverses.
your decline with prescription performance medicines,
gLP1s, testosterone, and peptides that reduce belly fat,
restore energy, and boost recovery.
Over 50,000 high performers have already broken through their plateaus.
If you're ready to turn your hard work into measurable results,
go to maximus tribe.com.
That's maximus tribe.com.
You train, you track, you eat right.
But if you're over 40, you've felt it.
The results don't match the effort anymore.
That's not willpower.
It's biology.
Hormones drop.
Metabolism slows.
Your body stops responding the way it used to.
Maximus is the online clinic that reverses your decline
with prescription performance medicines,
GLP1s, testosterone, and peptides that reduce belly fat,
restore energy, and boost recovery.
Over 50,000 high performers have already broken through their plateaus.
If you're ready to turn your hard work into measurable results,
go to maximus tribe.com.
That's maximus tribe.com.
Glasgow, Scotland in the late 1960s was experiencing the cultural upheaval common throughout Western societies at the time.
The city's working class population found escape at venues like Boroughland Ballroom,
a popular dance hall where young people gather to socialize.
And against this backdrop, a series of murders began on February 22nd, 1968,
when 25-year-old Patricia Docker attended the ballroom.
And the young nurse and mother left a venue alone,
and was discovered the following morning in a doorway near Langside Place, strangled and partially clothed,
and her personal belongings missing from the scene completely. And Patricia Docker balanced complex
responsibilities as her life was cut short. The 25-year-old auxiliary nurse managed night shifts
while caring for her four-year-old son, Sandy, during a period of separation from her husband,
who served with RAF in Lincolnshire. And on that fateful February evening,
in 1968, Patricia told her parents she was visiting the majestic ballroom, but instead went to Borreland,
known for its over 25 nights where attendees often removed wedding rings, seeking temporary
anonymity from their complicated lives. Some shady shit going on in the 60s, I'll tell you what.
But Patricia would go to this ballroom and leave and then obviously lose her life, which is
extremely horrible, but would lead us to our second victim, which would be Jemima McDonald.
And Jemima maintained a household as a single mother to three children.
Elizabeth, who was 11 years old, Andrew, who was 8 years old, and Alan, who was 7.
Described by acquaintances as clean and well cared for.
Jemima ensured her children were properly looked after despite the challenges of soul parenthood.
And her murder in August of 1969 fractured the family unit she had worked so hard to maintain.
And the aftermath proved additionally devastating as her three children were separated and placed in different care homes,
causing a secondary tragedy that extended beyond the initial death.
Just so heartbreaking.
And then we have Helen Puddick.
Now, Helen Puddick would be the final victim.
And she had recently returned to Glasgow with her husband, George, an army serviceman.
And their two young sons, David and Michael.
And the night of her murder in October 1969 represented a...
a rare evening of personal freedom.
A brief respite from maternal obligations
while her husband would remain home with her children.
And the cruel irony that Helen was killed steps away
from the domestic safety she had temporarily left behind
underscores the tragedy's senselessness.
But all three women shared significant commonalities
beyond their connection to Borough Land.
Each was a mother seeking brief independence
from their demanding domestic responsibilities
and the over 25's night,
at Borland offered a socially acceptable outlet for married women to experience autonomy in an era of limited freedom.
And perhaps most significantly, each was menstruating at the time.
Damn, which is just so odd.
But a biological detail that potentially influenced the killer's victim selection?
Maybe.
But the bright lights of Glasgow's Barrelan ballroom concealed a methodical predator whose selection process went beyond mere opportunism.
This venue where married patrons often removed their wedding rings for anonymous encounters
provided the perfect hunting ground for a killer whose approach suggested calculated religious motivations
rather than random violence. So he was seeking these people out specifically. People who were
set out to be unfaithful to their partners. He didn't like that. Not one bit. So when investigators
initially focused on the majestic ballroom rather than the Borrowland following Patricia
a docker's murder, they inadvertently compromised crucial evidence collection during the critical early
hours of the investigation. And this error would prove significant as the pattern of Boroughland
connections became apparent with subsequent victims. And witnesses consistently describe the suspect
as exceptionally well-dressed and articulate, a tributes that distinguished him from a typical violent
offender. His polite, charming demeanor allowed him to gain trust of women at the venue,
facilitating their willingness to leave with him.
So this calculated approach indicated premeditation rather than impulsive violence.
This man was a hunter.
And the religious underpinnings of the crime emerged most clearly during Helen Heddock's taxi journey,
where her sister, Jean Langford, heard the suspect, quote, scripture and condemned the barland
as a den of inequity.
And Gene further recalled that he mentioned he did not drink, but prayed instead.
suggesting a strict religious upbringing that would later contribute to his infamous moniker.
And forensic examinations revealed a disturbing ritualistic element at each crime scene.
The deliberate positioning of sanitary items near the victim's body
indicated the killer's harbored specific fixations possibly connected to biblical notions of impurity.
And this consistent pattern combined with the strangulation method employed in each murder,
pointed to a signature that evolved while maintaining core elements.
potentially indicating the killer's growing confidence or adaptation to avoid detection.
This guy was unfortunately smart and extremely calculated and extremely fucking judgmental to consenting adults.
And as the ritualistic elements at the crime scene became clear,
Glasgow police mobilized in unprecedented numbers.
What began as a standard murder investigation transformed into Scotland's most extensive
manhunt. Yet it would ultimately fail despite groundbreaking tactics and compelling witness testimony.
And the investigation pioneered forensic techniques never before seen in Scottish policing.
Most notably, authorities created and widely distributed the nation's first police
photo fit of a suspect in a murder case, plastering newspapers and television broadcast with
the composite image. And the manhunt's scope was extraordinary, with undercover officers
dispatch to blend among Boroughland patrons in what the press dubbed as Marine Formation Dance Team.
Which is pretty awesome. Plain-clothed detectives scanning the dance lore for anyone matching the suspect's description.
And Jean Langford's account for the taxi ride with her sister Helen and the suspect provided investigators with extraordinary detail.
A mixed blessing that just shaped the entire investigation. And while her testimony offered first-hand description of the killer's appearance,
mannerisms and religious rhetoric, over-reliance on her singular account potentially narrowed the
investigation aperture, causing detectives to dismiss leads that didn't precisely match her recollection,
which is damaging in investigations. I mean, obviously it's good to have that testimony,
but I mean, we're not built to remember somebody perfectly, you know?
Like, it needs to be broader than that. And we know that now, but that was all they had,
so that is what they went for. And the undercover operation at Barland continued
for months until late October, 1969, when it was abruptly terminated.
The cessation came not from any investigative breakthrough, but due to complaints from
proprietors about plummeting attendance figures as patrons avoided the venue now associated
with a serial killer. Basically, just because a bunch of people were just bummed that other people
got killed and it ruined their fucking swinger party, I guess, because that matters more than solving
people's murders? I don't know. Decades later, in 1996, investigators exhumed the body of John
Irvin McClinnis for DNA testing, a costly operation that yielded inconclusive results and triggered
substantial media backlash. And more troubling revelations emerged in 2022 when the BBC podcast,
Bible John, creation of a serial killer, alleged that McClinnis may have been protected due to
the familial connections with a senior officer involved in the original investigation.
Can just corruption everywhere.
But in exhuming John's body, it would give this serial killer the name Bible John,
mixing the scripture with the murders.
This is just what it became, but it's not conclusive.
And even convicted murderer Peter Tubbin fell under suspicion
due to the striking similarities in methods and victimology,
but was ultimately eliminated because records confirmed he wasn't in Glasgow during.
the murders, so we're left with another, I don't know, another unsolved serial murder case.
And hopefully, this bastard is fucking dead. But that brings us to our next killer.
So in the mid-90s, the Belgian city of Mons became the backdrop for a series of gruesome discoveries.
Women began vanishing without a trace, only for their dismembered remains to surface in garbage
bags across rivers and roads with unsettling names like Path of Worry and Kate River.
And the precision of the cuts and the eerie choice of disposal sites pointed to a methodical and deeply
disturbed killer. And despite the formation of dedicated task force, the investigation was plagued
with mismanagement, lack of resources, and dead-end leads. And as a body count grew, so did the mystery.
Was the killer, a lone predator, a trained professional, or,
something even more sinister. And over the years, investigators pursued multiple suspects,
some with disturbing ties to similar crimes. But as time passed, justice slipped further away,
leaving behind a chilling question. Who was the butcher of Mons? And why was he never caught?
So in January of 1996, a pattern of disappearances began that would haunt the Belgian city of Mons
for years to come. Carmina Rousseau, a 42-year-old woman, vanished after visiting her in prison,
Sun on January 4th. And her disappearance might have remained just another missing person's case,
but 17 days later, fishermen made a grim discovery in the Scheldt River in northern France,
and it would be Russo's pelvis, which was deliberately severed from the rest of her body.
And this would just mark the beginning of a series of methodical dismembered victims. And six
Months later, Martin Bone, a 43-year-old former sedual worker, disappeared on July 21st.
And her dismembered torso was subsequently recovered from the Hane River.
And investigators noted a particularly disturbing detail.
Her breasts had been deliberately removed from her body,
suggesting a sensual motivation behind the killer's methodology.
Just a fucking monster.
And the precision of these cuts initially led authorities to consider medical
training as a prerequisite for the predator, which would make sense, or some sort of butcher,
somebody who's worked with bodies before. And the pattern would continue into December when
Jacqueline LeClerc, a 33-year-old mother of four, went missing on the 22nd. And unlike the previous
victims, her remains weren't discovered until March of the following year. When Officer Oliver
Mott recovered garbage bags containing her severed arms and legs. And the delay between
disappearances and discovery raised questions about the killer's storage capabilities.
And by March 1997, 21-year-old Natalie Goddart became the fourth victim.
Though not involved in sensual work, investigators noted she had been described as
promiscuous and was struggling with personal issues, severe enough that her child had actually
been placed in protective care. And her torso was recovered from the same waterway as Bonds
remains, the Hain River. And the killer's final
known victim would be Begonia Valencia, a 37-year-old woman with schizophrenia who disappeared from
frameries during the summer of 1997. And only her skull would be recovered in the area of Hyon,
suggesting an evolution in disposal methods or decomposition that prevented further remains from being
located. He was just getting a lot better at hiding the remains. And forensic analysis would reveal
disturbing detail that investigators initially overlooked. The preservation state of various body
parts differed significantly. Some remains appeared relatively fresh, while others showed evidence
of refrigeration, indicating the killer likely stored dismembered parts for extended periods
before the actual disposal. And this suggested both access to suitable refrigeration facilities
and a disturbing level of planning. And perhaps most chilling was the killer's apparent psychological
signature in the selection of the disposal sites. Locations with macabre names became
favored dumping grounds. Rue de Depot, literally dump street, chamin de lichitude, which is
path of worry, and rivers with unsettling names like Hain, which is hate, and troy, which is jitters.
And this deliberate selection of symbolically charged locations suggested a perpetrator who incorporated
psychological elements into their methodology. So the symbolically charged disposal sites just
reflected a killer with psychological sophistication. Yet the Belgian judicial system response would
prove remarkably insufficient. Despite establishing a specialized investigative unit, authorities gradually
abandoned their pursuit of the butcher while dismembered bodies continue to appear throughout the region.
And in the aftermath of the killings, Belgian authorities formed the corpus investigative unit
under Magistrate Pierre-Let. And this represented the nation's most concentrated efforts to
identify and apprehend the methodical killer terrorizing mons. However, from its inception, the unit faced
substantial institutional constraints. Despite the brutality and sophistication of the crimes,
Belgian officials classified the case as merely local, failing to allocate adequate resources for what
was clearly a complex serial murder investigation. So the systemic dismantling of the investigative effort
became evident as years passed without an arrest. And by 2007, what had begun,
as a substantial team had been reduced to only four investigators.
And the dramatic reduction occurred even as the unit had examined nearly 1,000 complaints over 13 years,
demonstrating a very troubling administrative indifference to solving the case.
And the lack of modern forensic techniques available at the time further hampered investigators,
limiting their ability to extract DNA evidence or effectively share information across international borders.
And the investigation eventually developed significant international
dimensions. In 2007, Montenegren authorities arrested Smale Tolja, who emerged as the investigator's most
compelling suspect. And Tolja's crime history included a strikingly similar murder in New York in 1990,
where victim Mary Bill was dismembered and placed in garbage bags, a methodology nearly identical to the butcher's
signature. And additionally, evidence against Tolja included his confirmed presence in Belgium during the
Mon's murders. His romantic connection to the New York victim,
and bloodstain discovered in his apartment.
Yet investigators never secured conclusive proof
linking him to the Belgian killings.
And Tolja's death in a Montenegrin prison in 2012
permanently foreclosed any possibility of obtaining a confession
or conducting additional DNA comparisons.
But good fucking rhythms anyway.
But other suspects emerged throughout the investigation.
Jacques Antoine, a French doctor,
became a person of interest after his son wrote letters to police
accusing him of carrying black trash bags while living in months during the murder period.
But these accusations ultimately held very little weight, undermined by inconsistencies and the son's
peculiar focus on his father's firearm collection rather than behaviors related to dismemberment.
Basically just a kid wanted to get rid of his father.
And British citizen John Sweeney, convicted of dismemberment murders in both Amsterdam and London,
represented another plausible suspect based on his potential presence in Belgium between
his known killings. However, authorities never established a definitive connection between Sweeney
and the Mon's murders. Just another piece of shit, I guess. But the butcher of Mon's case exposed
system failures in Belgium law enforcement, turning a major manhunt into a disjointed, under-resourced
investigation. An expert suggests that the killer's meticulous planning skills and possible medical
training allowed him to evade capture while preying on society's most vulnerable. And the case is
mishandling his fuel discussions on understanding perpetrator psychology and underscore the need for
interagency cooperation and proper resource allocation. Though officially unsolved, its legacy has influenced
investigative reforms at least, ensuring greater institutional accountability changes that,
well, too late for the victims, may help prevent similar failures in the future. And with that,
we move on to our last unsolved serial killer murder case. San Francisco's
foggy beaches and secluded parks became the hunting ground for this methodical predator.
Ocean Beach, with its desolate stretches of sand, shrouded and mist, served as the backdrop
for the Doodler's first confirmed murder. On January 27, 1974, the body of Gerard Earl
Kavanaugh was discovered there, bearing multiple stab wounds. The 49-year-old's death
marked the beginning of a pattern that would terrorize the city's gay community for 18 months.
Leaving bodies scattered across Ocean Beach, Goldingade Park, and Lincoln Park.
And the pattern linking these homicides together emerged gradually as each new victim was discovered.
What began as seemingly unrelated crimes soon revealed a methodical perpetrator with consistent targets and methods.
And Kavanaugh's defensive wounds indicated a violent struggle against his attacker.
The 17 stab wounds demonstrating a level of aggression that would become a characteristic of the killer's approach.
And the investigators initially treated this as an isolated incident, failing to recognize the beginning of a systemic campaign of violence.
And only five months later, the killer would strike again.
Joseph Stevens, known professionally as Jay, was discovered near Spreckles Lake with five stab wounds.
And the location of his abandoned car suggested he had willingly accompanied his killer to the secluded area of Golden Gate Park, likely anticipating a sensual encounter.
And as a performer in San Francisco's nightlife,
Stevens represented a more visible target within the gay community.
And the brutality escalated drastically with the third victim.
Just 12 days after Stephen's death, so his cool-down period has drastically gotten shorter.
Klaus Christman's body appeared at Ocean Beach.
The German visitor suffered what investigators described as an extraordinarily vicious attack.
With slashes to his throat so severe, they appeared to be an attempt at decapitation.
And this marked a significant intensification.
in the killer's violence.
And then nearly a year would pass
before Frederick Capin became the fourth victim.
The decorated Vietnam veteran received 16 precisely delivered stab wounds
that pierced vital organs, including the heart.
Evidence at Ocean Beach revealed his body had been dragged 20 feet
through the sand, suggesting the killer was becoming more methodical in positioning his victims.
And the final confirmed kill was Harold Gulberg, who was discovered in an advanced state of
decomposition on June 4th, 1975 at Lincoln Park.
And the 66-year-old Swedish-American's body
told a different story.
He had been dead for approximately two weeks
and found with his underwear removed and pants unzipped,
further confirming the sedgible dimension of these crimes.
But this wasn't even the end.
As police had no clue during the investigation
if more bodies turning up truly were from the same murderer
or just random acts of violence.
But behind the gruesome murders, Lehometheus,
as distinctive as it was disturbing. The doodler's artistic talent transformed ordinary bar encounters
into deadly traps. His approach demonstrated a calculated precision that set him apart from other
killers operating during the same period. The doodler proud San Francisco's vibrant gay scene,
primarily targeting establishments in Castro, Hope Gulch, and tenderloin districts. And popular venues
such as cinch saloon and cabaret club became his hunting grounds where he implemented his signature strategy.
Rather than relying on physical intimidation, he disarmed potential victims through his artistic abilities,
sketching portraits of men he encountered as a non-threatening means of introduction.
One survivor actually recounted meeting the killer at a diner where he was drawing animals on a napkin,
using this talent as a conversation starter.
And this deceptively innocent approach allowed him to establish trust with his targets,
who would just willingly accompany him to secluded locations, typically near water.
And these isolated areas known as gay hookup spots in the 1970s provided both privacy for
sensual encounters and the perfect setting for murder.
And the violence of the attacks just indicated extreme rage.
And the positioning of the bodies followed a consistent pattern, with victims discovered in
outdoor locations near water. Furthermore, the killer would strip victims of identification completely,
making it more difficult for authorities to connect cases and identify the deceased. But three individuals
survived encounters with the doodler, providing crucial details about his methodology. A European
diplomat suffered six stab wounds, but managed to escape with his life. And another survivor
described as a well-known entertainer fled when a knife fell from the attacker's coat, revealing his
deadly intentions before an attack could commence. And the third survivor left San Francisco entirely
and refused to cooperate with investigators. But the psychological profile that emerged suggested
a perpetrator struggling with his own sexual identity. The extraordinary violence directed at
gay men indicated possible internalized homophobia. Perhaps a person unable to accept his own homosexual
desires and projecting that self-hatred onto others, which we've seen in multiple other serial killer
cases involving the gay community. And witness descriptions consistently depicted a young black man
between 19 and 25 years old, approximately six feet tall, who demonstrated both artistic skill
and capacity for extreme violence. So the psychological assessment pointing to internalized homophobia
took on a disturbing new dimension in late 1975. A psychiatrist contacted police about a patient
who had confessed at the Ocean Beach murders. And this revelation brought investigators tantal
realisingly close to solving the case.
Yet the doodler would ultimately slip through their grasp due to circumstances that reveal as much about
1970s America as they do about the killer himself.
The investigation was led by a formidable team, Rotea Guilford and Earl Sanders, African-American
homicide inspectors, nicknamed the Soul Brothers, who had earned reputations for their meticulous
work.
They had constructed a very detailed case file that included a police sketch and narrowing list of
suspects. And when the psychiatrist came forward with the information about his patient's confession,
investigators believed they had finally identified their perpetrator.
These guys look badass. He's got to look badass as thought. That's awesome.
And under questioning, the prime suspect acknowledged his struggles with sexual identity,
but denied committing the murders completely. And without physical evidence,
definitively connecting him to the crimes, authorities found themselves in an evidentiary stalemate.
The case now hinged entirely on testimony from the three survivors who encountered and escaped the
the doodler. And the sociopolitical climate of the 1970s created an insurmountable barrier to justice,
basically. Homosexuality remained classified as a mental illness by American Psychiatric Association
until 1973. And the stigma persisted long after declassification. Gay men face potential
loss of employment, housing, and social standing, if publicly outed. And for the European diplomat,
testimony would have meant career destruction, basically. So their lives were on the line with
doodler, but also their lives were on the line with the public. And for the entertainer and the well-known
survivor, public identification as a homosexual threatened their livelihoods and personal safety. And relations
between law enforcement and the LGBT Q Plus community further complicated matters. Police raids on gay
establishments were common practice throughout the 1960s and even early 1970s, fostering a deep
institutional distrust. And many gay men viewed police not as protectors, but as personal.
making cooperation with authorities a fraught proposition even where their own safety was at stake.
And Harvey Milk, who would later become San Francisco's first openly gay elected official,
captured the impossible position of the survivors when he stated, quote unquote,
I understand their position, I respect the pressure society has put on them.
And this acknowledgement from one of the community's most prominent advocates highlighted the devastating reality.
societal homophobia had effectively granted the doodler immunity from prosecution, which is just so
fucked up. So this serial killer got away with it due to society being shit, basically, just a big,
big society piece of shit. But despite the advances in forensic science and investigative techniques,
these cases remain one of the most haunting unsolved crimes in modern history. The Oakland County
child killer, Bible John, the butcher of Mons, and the doodler each left behind not just a trail of
victims, but an enduring sense of unease. Their identities obscured by time, speculation, and incomplete
evidence. While theories abound from lone predators to potential conspiracies, justice has never been
fully realized for the victims. And as cold cases continue to revisit with new technology, one pressing
question remains. Could one of these elusive killers still be alive today hidden in plain sight?
I don't know, but all I do know is that I care about you and I want you to stay safe. So,
be safe out there and let me know what other cases you would like me to go over down below.
The cold cases are always good, I think, to shine a light on them. You know, you never know who's
going to see. You never know what's going to happen. But yeah, I'm tired. Tired of this, of these people.
They're not people, they're monsters.
I hope they're rotting in hell,
and I hope you're just cozied up with some popcorn and a snack or something.
But I'd be have a good rest of your morning, afternoon, or night,
and I will see you a beautiful face in the next video.
Okay, stay safe out there.
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