Crime Fix with Angenette Levy - 9 Shocking Claims from Hawaii Doctor on Trial for Wife's Murder Plot

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Gerhardt Konig has taken the stand in his attempted murder trial in Oahu, Hawaii. Prosecutors claim the anesthesiologist tried to kill his wife on a hike in March 2025 because it was cheaper ...to do that than divorce her. They also claim Gerhardt was furious that Arielle Konig was talking with a male colleague on WhatsApp. Arielle testified earlier in the trial. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy goes through Gerhardt's testimony in this episode of Crime Fix — a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.Host:Angenette Levy  https://twitter.com/Angenette5CRIME FIX PRODUCTION:Head of Social Media, YouTube - Bobby SzokeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinVideo Editing - Daniel CamachoGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He's saying like, you're done, we're done with you, we don't need you anymore, you're done, you're done. As scientist, her husband, and an alleged plot to kill her on her birthday. Also, there's a confession. He had that very, my stepmom had been cheating on him and that he tried to kill her. But there's a twist that you probably never saw coming. Gerard, did you have a plan to kill your wife on the mountain that day? No. Did you try to throw her off a cliff?
Starting point is 00:00:30 No. I go through all of it as Gerhard Koenig takes the stand in his own defense. I'm Anjanette Levy, and this is Crime Fix. Gerhard Koenig was a successful anesthesiologist. He and his wife Ariel, they had two children. The Konigs lived in Hawaii in paradise. Ariel Koenig was a nuclear scientist. These are two very smart, successful people and both say that they believed they had a happy marriage. But one day in March of 2025, something went terribly wrong on a mountaintop in Oahu. Ariel says Gerhardt tried to kill her. But Gerhardt says that's not true and that he only hit his wife in the head with a rock in self-defense. But Gerhardt is the one on trial for attempted murder.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Both Ariel and Gerhardt agree they were in counseling because Ariel had been secretly messaging with a colleague on WhatsApp. Did you ever have sex with Jeffrey? No. In these WhatsApp messages, did you ever send or receive sexual photos with Jeffrey Miller? No. Did you discuss sex at all in the messages? No. In these messages, did you flirt with Jeffrey Miller? Yes, some of them are flirty in nature. And when the defendant confronted you in December about these messages, how did you react? I was apologetic. You know, he was obviously hurt, and I was really, and I was really committed to my marriage and my husband, and so we agreed to work through it and try to kind of rebuild, because I had definitely broken his trust and could tell he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:02:23 As a couple, how did you and the defendant characterize these WhatsApp messages? It felt like an affair to him, so that we called it an emotional affair. You say emotional affair? Emotional affair is the word, yeah. Now, this is what Ariel Koenig told the jury about the attack on the mountain in Marjor. March of 2025. Can you tell us what you remember he said as he was on top of you? Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'm screaming and he's telling me, shut the up. Nobody's going to hear you out here. Nobody's coming to save you. And I'm saying, like, you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Everyone knows we're on a hike. They'll know this wasn't an accident and our kids will be orphans. You'll go to jail and I'll be dead. Like, you have to stop. And again, he's saying, like, you're done. We're done with you. We don't need you anymore. You're done. You're done. Did telling the defendant any of these things that you told him, did that get him to stop?
Starting point is 00:03:32 No. Not really. And I had said, like, your mom just sent me a really beautiful text for my birthday. Like, your family will be upset if I die. He can't face our kids after this, you know. And he did seem at that point to, like, calm down a little bit. Like, he seemed like he took a deep breath and calmed down. And so I had this moment where I was like, okay, this is the break.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Like, I can get out. And then he just starts hitting me with a rock. Even Gerhard's oldest son, Emil, testified for the prosecution. He is Gerhardt's son from his first marriage. That he would not be making it back to Maui and to take good care of the younger kids. that he had, that Ari, my stepmom had been cheating on him, and that he tried to kill her. Okay. That's a lot, but I'm going to break that down a little bit. You said he tried, you said the defendant told you he tried to kill Ariel. Is that right? Correct. Did he tell
Starting point is 00:04:39 you what happened to Ariel? He did not. Did you tell you where she went? No. Did the defendant tell you why he tried to kill Ariel? No. During this 1042 a.m. call, did the defendant tell you anything about what he planned to do next? During that call, the next plan that he said was to jump off the cliff. But Gerhardt has taken the stand to defend himself against the attempted murder charge, and he says he is in fact the victim. His testimony began with him telling the jury about how he met Ariel.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Okay, now, after separating from your first wife, Did you at some point start dating again? Yes. And did you try out dating apps? Yes. How did that go? I used some free dating apps in the beginning and met some people and finally signed up for a paid app, EHarmony. EHarmony.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And after you sign up for EHarmony, is that how you met, Ariel? Yeah, she actually found me on there and we connected on there and chatted on there for a little. chatted on there for a little while, and I think we connected in February of 2016, and then we met in the bar at the end of March, 2016. Your first time you met her, first date-ish, what you were your honor called it, was at a bar? Yes. In Pittsburgh. Okay. And then did you guys continue to see?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yes. Yes. Okay. Sorry, I actually correct you. And after that, did you guys continue dating? Yes. Gerhardt then talked about how he and Ariel got married and had children. I think you said you met in 2016?
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yes. When did you and Ariel get married? 2018. Between 2016 and 2018, where were you living? We were both living in Pittsburgh in kind of different suburbs of the city. She lived north of the city close to where she worked, and I lived kind of to the west of the city. We were about an hour apart,
Starting point is 00:06:50 but so we spent one week at my house with the kids when we had the kids, and then we'd spend one week at her townhouse. up north. And that was in Pittsburgh? In Pittsburgh. Okay. Yeah. And you were working in the job you just described to us. Yes. Now, after your first divorce, you had two kids. Did you, did you want to have more kids with? I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had that in my profile on online dating and. Oh, that you wanted to have more kids? Yeah. Okay. And did you and Ms. Koenig have kids together? Yes, two kids. Eventually, the couple decided to leave Pittsburgh and they made the move to Maui. Emil made the move with them and so did Ariel's parents. So I know this is
Starting point is 00:07:36 a big question, but I'm going to ask you to kind of just maybe summarize. You know, you get here to Maui, March 23. You know, you have these two young kids. Your son's here. Your in-laws are here. You got a job. What was life like for you and your family from March 2020-23 until December 20-24? Can you just summarize what it was like? Yeah. It was amazing. The move was a little stressful at first, getting here, but once we were here and settled in, it was our dream life. So we bought a house really close to the hospital so I can walk to work.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And it also meant that I could take all my call shifts from home. And whenever I was done it the day, I could be home in a few minutes. And it translated into me being home a lot more than I was in Pittsburgh in my previous job. And so that meant that I was spending a lot more time. with the kids and with Aerie and with the meal. I was doing a lot of home improvement projects. And then as a family, we were doing lots of exploring.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Like every weekend we would explore Maui. We did a lot of beach activities. We went to beach almost every weekend, snorkeling, surfing, paddleboarding, hiking. Okay. So you were, it was a good life. Yeah, we made a bunch of friends through my work and through Olin's preschool, some of his friends and friends' parents. and we were getting settled in.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah. And let me ask you, you know, Ariel, when you testified, you know, when the detective asked her about how the marriage was before December 2024, she said it was a good marriage. Did you agree with that? I thought it was a great marriage, yeah. I totally agree. Life was good.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Gerhard says, but then Gerhardt claims he saw some things in late 2024 that made him suspicious. What happened? The biggest, I mean, the only thing that I noticed was that she was constantly on her phone. She was just constantly on her phone. Was that on you, more so than usual? Yeah, much more than usual. And, and she would hide the screen for me. So.
Starting point is 00:09:43 What do you mean by that? Like, you know, if you're sitting next to somebody and they're on their phone, like, you can just notice that they're sitting in a way. Okay. You know, they're constantly, they're always just like moving their screen. What if you like walking into a room when she was on? Yeah. When I walked in the room, she would turn the screen off. for turn her phone upside down.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Did you ask her about it? I did several times. And she would always say, I'm talking to Gianna, I'm talking to Gianna, which is her best friend. Who's Gianna? Jana's her best friend. Okay. So you did ask her about it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, more than a couple. And you continue to see this concerning, well, was this behavior concerning to you? Yes. And I was just, yeah, I was, I was curious. I was concerned. You're right. And did she, she told you it was, don't worry, it was just Gianna. Yeah. And she was like defensive about it.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Okay. Gerhard Koenig said his curiosity got the best of him. So a couple of days before Ariel and Gerhardt were scheduled to go on a trip with friends, he looked through Ariel's phone and found many WhatsApp messages with that colleague, Jeff Miller. And then I saw them communicate kind of in like in real time because I could see it pop up on my screen too. And, you know, as soon as the conversation proceeded, kind of passed, she would kind of keep deleting the previous messages. So she was like, not deleting them in real time, but like throughout the day, she was deleting the previous messages. And the content of the communications and what was being deleted, again, was it, you know, concerning?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, I mean, it was, it was the same type of conversation that she was having. with them on the previous two days, which is not a conversation you have at the coworker. This is a conversation you have with your spouse. I mean, this is, yeah. And after watching that, that all day long, what did you conclude? Um, I mean, in terms of what was going on. I, I, I, I, I, I mean, she was having an affair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:54 The Konigs went to counseling and in March of 2025, they took a trip to Oahu for aerial birthday, which included a hike on a mountain. Before the hike, Gerhardt Koenig says he had signed documents increasing his life insurance payout. Can we please publish the first page, Mr. Dux? Okay. So let's see, let's look at this. Okay. So Gerhardt, at the top, it says, please doc you sign, it has your name, it has the AAA life insurance. I guess that's AAA. Is that who you did? Yes. Is that who you got your life insurance from? Yes. And the date there is March 24th, 802, is that right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And this was for the extra 500 you were adding on to the million of life insurance you got for her a few weeks before, right? Yes. Okay. Did you discuss this additional 500 that went through with Ms. Coney and that the email came in and you document signed? Did you tell her about that before the hike on March 24th, 2025? I did, because we were in the parking lot after the coffee shop and I was on my phone. And I was like, oh, you know what? My, you know, the last of my life insurance just went through.
Starting point is 00:13:02 They're asking me to docc sign it. And so I was doing that. All right, we can take that down. Just want to let her know that I'm not like just texting or something like, because we were out together. Okay. So you were telling her what it was that you were looking at? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Thank you. And so from that point on, if something happened to you and in an accident or whatnot, you would get $1.5 million, correct? That's correct. Then on the hike, things took a turn. Continuing on the hike, what happens at some point? Well, did something happen that led to an argument?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yes. Tell the jury what happened that led to an argument. Well, first of all, how far up into the hike was it? Not very far. Just like five minutes, like after about five minutes of hiking, you get to a part where it flattens out a bit. And the edge isn't. like the cliff side isn't open, but there's a couple of spots where you can get to the cliff side if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So we're kind of still in that area, the same area that picture was taken. And Ari says, hey, I need to talk to you about something. You know, I'm working on this project with Jeff Miller, and I'm going to need to travel with him again. And I need you to be okay with that. Is that okay? Gerhardt said the argument ended, and the hike continued, and they took a selfie. Right after the selfie, I just remember kind of staying at the edge there and looking over the edge and just kind of still and thought about everything that had just happened and what's going on. And then I felt like a shove, and I was almost pushed over the edge.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You felt a shove. Who shoved you? Henry did. What did you do right after that? I barely caught myself and turned around and looked at her and was like, what the was that? Turned around and it was like what kind of in shock? What the shton?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yes. Okay. And then did you move towards her? Yeah, I did. I was like just asking her like, you know, what was that? And started walking towards her. Because at this point she was like five or ten feet away from me. So Gerhardt Connick told the jury that Ariel Trayette.
Starting point is 00:15:31 tried to shove him off the cliff. Yes, eventually, yeah. And by the way, when you start walking towards her, is she saying anything? Not initially, when I turn around, and I'm asking her, like, what the hell's, you know, what the f*** just happened and what's going on? And as I'm starting to walk towards her, she starts yelling. She starts yelling. Yeah, help me, help me.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Okay. And then what happens? And then I just keep walking, I'm like, what are you doing? And I get, like, why are you screaming? Yeah, what are you doing? And I get to her, and I'm like, you know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, you know, touching or just putting my my my my hands on her arms and I was like what are you doing what's going on what happens then she keeps yelling and and she kind of grabs my wrists and throws herself on the
Starting point is 00:16:13 ground and pulls me down with her so now you guys are on the ground yes okay when you're on the ground what starts to happen she's holding on to me and I'm trying to figure out what's going on but I'm also at this point trying to let go of, like, trying to get free because she's, like, actively holding on me. She has her leg, like, she has her leg wrapped on one of my legs and, like, is actively holding on to me and is yelling. And so I'm trying to, you know, get free, and I get my one arm free, and I try to use it to get my other arm free, and she grabs me by the testicles.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Okay, let me stop you there. Did you ever, in the course of this whole thing you described so far, ever try to pull her towards, push her off, or drag her towards the cliff's edge? No, not at all. Gerhardt then tells the jury that Ariel attacked him as they scuffled on the ground. And it happened all really fast. Yeah, I'm glad you raised that. Was this like happening slowly where you guys...
Starting point is 00:17:20 This all happened within like, I mean, probably less than a minute, maybe slightly more than a minute, but I mean, two minutes or something. From the moment that, like, we were on the ground and she was grabbed my testicles. It happened quickly. Everything after the grabbing of the testicles happened very quickly. Okay. And you weren't timing it or anything. No.
Starting point is 00:17:43 This is just your best estimate. Okay. So now, she's holding on to you, she's squeezing your testicles and kind of dealing with that. And she's on the ground, and you're kind on top of her. Yes. Okay. And you said then you felt you got hit with the rock. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Where did you get hit? On the left side of my face. How many times? She kept doing it. The first blow, she landed really well. And after that, I was able to block fairly well. She did land a couple more, but not as bad as the first one. She still got your testicles?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah. So she's like holding my testicle and just like hitting me like this. And now do you stop? dealing with it. I'm just focused on the rock at the point. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Did it hurt when you got hit with the rock? You did. Could we publish what's in evidence as Exhibit D30, Your Honor? Yes. Carehart, is this where you got hit with the rock? Yes. Is that the area? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We can take that down. Now, you get hit with the rock. Explain to the jury what happens next and why? And why? I was able to wrestle the rock out of her hand. Does she still have your testicles? Yes. Still squeezing up?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yes. What do you do? I was able to like, so we're like, she's hitting me and I'm like blocking and then I start like, you know, and I get a wrist. Is it a scuffle over the rock? Yes. Is it near her face? Yes. I mean, it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And then what happens? And I finally get the rock. What did you do? I hit her with the rock. How many times do you think you hit her? I hear it two times. Okay. And when you did, was she still holding on to your testicles?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yes. Yes. Okay. Why did you hit her? Why did you react that way? Just on instinct to defend myself. How fast was this all happening? Pretty fast?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Pretty fast. In between when she hit you with the rock, and in between the time she hit you with the rock, and when you hit her with the rock, rock, were you able to safely retreat and get away from her? No. Why not? She was holding on to me.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Including your testicles? Yes. Did you hit her in the face or the eye with the rock? No. You said two times where did you hit her? On the side of the head. Gerhardt said he felt awful that Ariel was hurt despite his claim that she was the aggressor. He says he felt hopeless and that all was lost and he wanted to end it all.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So he facetimed Emil, his oldest son. This is how Gerhardt explained that call. Where were you when you did this facetime call? It was in a spot where the trail wasn't right next to the cliff edge, because the cliff edge at that point wasn't really an edge. It was like a 10-foot kind of sloped part, and then the edge. And so I was basically between the cliff edge and the trail kind of hanging on to the side of the mountain. Was it a pretty kind of steepish area?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah, very steep. And were you kind of like on the side of the mountain? Mm-hmm. So you got to? Yes, sorry. Okay. And so just to be clear, the place he FaceTimed him from, was that the place that the incident took place?
Starting point is 00:21:34 No. Okay. On the FaceTime, would it have looked like you were on kind of the edge of a mountain? Yes. Were you on speakerphone? Yes. I mean, like holding it where he could see your face? Yes. And I showed them the view and where I was.
Starting point is 00:21:52 There was testimony from police officers that that's, it was a windy day and notoriously windy area. Do you recall it being pretty windy that day? It was windy, yeah, up there. So you're on the side of a cliff, mountain. You have them on speaker on FaceTime. It's windy. Is that right? Yes. You were extremely emotional at that time?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yes. So that's the context of this phone call, correct? Yes. Did you tell him that Ariel had, well, you were calling him to say goodbye, is that right? Yes. Okay. Was your purpose to explain to him the whole, every last detail of what happened? No.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Okay. Were you confessing to him that you were trying to kill Ari that day? No. Okay. Were you, did you have an intention to kill Ari dat? No. Okay. Would you have said it that way, I tried to kill Ari dat day?
Starting point is 00:22:48 No. Okay. But you don't dispute that the word kill probably came up. No. And can you understand how Emil in that conversation could have got that impression? Yes. And this is how Gerhard's direct examination ended. Gerhard, did you have a plan to kill your wife on the mountain that day?
Starting point is 00:23:10 No. Did you try to throw her off a cliff? No. You try to stab her with syringes? No. When you hit her with the rock twice, why did you do it? in self-defense. Then it was the prosecution's turn to test Gerhardt Koenig's story.
Starting point is 00:23:25 The state claims Gerhardt was controlling when it came to Ariel. Dr. Koenig, Ariel's children were four years old and 18 months old at the time that you wanted her to move out. Isn't that right? That's correct. No mother would want to move out of the house with their kids that age, would they? I wouldn't think so. But that's what you wanted, right? I wanted her to move out of the house for us to deal with the affair,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and I didn't want her to move out of the house, and harm her children. I wanted both. Now, another thing that you wanted is when you wanted Ariel to quit her job, right? That's right. And this is the remote worker job that she was able to find on Maui, correct? Yes. There are no nuclear power plants on Maui, right? That's correct.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So if Ariel wanted to stay in her career and advance her career, she had to work remotely, right? That's correct. If you were to stay on that, right? Yes. And once Ariel quit her job, as was your plan, she would have been 100% dependent on you and your salary, correct? She would be dependent on our assets, which were all. shared. We had a shared savings account. We had a home that was shared. We had vehicles that were shared. We had food in the house that shared. I mean, we had a lot of things in the house,
Starting point is 00:25:05 and they were all shared. We would lose her income as a family for a short period of time. She has a very good resume. She would be able to get a job, you know, probably within a few months, but if it took a few months, we were prepared for that. When Ariel quit her job, as was your plan, you would be the only breadwinner, correct? I would have the only one with the paycheck coming in. While she didn't have a job, that is correct. She would be dependent on you and your goodwill to keep a roof over her kids' heads, right? No. She would be dependent on you and your paycheck to keep her kids fed, right?
Starting point is 00:25:49 No. You wanted Ariel to give up her career, correct? No. You wanted to make sure Ariel never had contact with Jeffrey Miller again, right? That was my strong preference for her to not have contact with Mr. Miller ever again. And in order to do that, you wanted access to Ariel's phone at all times. That is absolutely not correct. You actually had Ariel's phone in December 2024, isn't that right?
Starting point is 00:26:19 I wouldn't say that. Like her phone, at many points in time, I had her phone in my hand. I would not characterize it the way you just did. And you monitored her communications in December 2024 after you confronted her. Isn't that right? I, on several occasions, asked to see who she was communicating with and she would show me. And the only time that I monitored her communications was for 48 hours when I was watching the WhatsApp messages. and most of those I was watching on my computer, not on her phone.
Starting point is 00:26:52 So today you're saying you were only monitoring her communications a little bit, right? I don't know what you mean by a little bit. I just described to you how I was monitoring her communications. Yesterday you testified about what you thought Ariel needed to do. Isn't that right? That's correct. You testified that she needed to, quote, proactively give up privacy, correct? Correct? Yes. And you also said that she needed to be okay with giving up her privacy. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's right. That's what you wanted, right? That's what I wanted. She didn't end up doing that, did she? No. And the prosecution claims Ariel may not have known about the hike prior to the birthday trip. Okay. On March 24th, 2025, you and Ariel came to, or were on Oahu, correct? Yes. And you came to Oahu because, because it was Ariel's birthday weekend, is that right? That's right. And Ariel's birthday is actually March 24th, right? Yes. You bought the airline tickets for the trip, correct?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yes. And of course you bought round trip tickets, right? Yes. So you were scheduled to go back to Maui on March 25th, 2025, correct? Yes. You booked the hotel for the weekend trip, correct? I did.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You sent spa information to Ariel before the trip, right? Yes. Yes. And then you booked the spa, correct? Yes. You did not send Ariel electronically any information about the Polypuka hike, isn't that correct? I don't think I did. The prosecutor also questioned Koenig's testimony about how he felt when he discovered Ariel
Starting point is 00:28:34 was talking with Jeff Miller on WhatsApp. So after you tell your best friend and Ariel's best friend about this, that's when you actually confront Ariel, correct? That's correct. And you're upset, right? That's not the primary feeling at the time. I was feeling a lot of other feelings, but I was also upset. You were mad, right?
Starting point is 00:28:57 I was not mad. You were not mad when you confronted your wife about these messages. I was upset. The prosecutor then got to the day of the hike, which Gerhardt admits was his idea on Ariel's birthday. But Ariel didn't go that far on the trail that day, did she? No. Ariel didn't want to hike anymore, right? Yeah, there came a point in.
Starting point is 00:29:18 point in time where Ariel did not want to hike anymore. Ariel deviated from your plan to go up this part of the trail, right? I wouldn't characterize it like that. Well, you plan to go up this part of the trail, correct? That's correct. And Ariel didn't follow through with that part of the plan, right? Yeah. And at some point, you actually continue up the trail yourself, right?
Starting point is 00:29:45 That's right. Without Ariel. That's right. On her birthday. That's right. But she didn't follow you, correct? No. She didn't follow you up to this narrow trail with this massive cliff, correct? That's correct. And the prosecutor grilled Gerhardt about his claims that Ariel attacked him.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You're bigger than Ariel, right? Um, yes. You have at least, or at the time of the offense or the, at the time of the incident, you had at least 20 pounds on it, right? Yeah, roughly 20 pounds. You're stronger than her, right? Probably. You're a doctor, so you know that men generally are stronger than women, correct? Yes. It's just a scientific matter of testosterone, right? That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But you testify that Ariel managed to pull you to the ground, and she pulled you on top of her, right? That's correct. Okay. Then you testified that Ariel wouldn't let you go from on top of her, right? That's correct. You testified that she wrapped her legs around you, right? She wrapped at least one leg around me, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yesterday you said legs, right? I think I said leg. It was at least one. And you testified that she grabbed your testicles, right? She did. And that she wouldn't let go, right? That's right. All this time, you were on top of her, right?
Starting point is 00:31:26 That's correct. And then you testified that Ariel took that rock. I'm going to grab exhibit two right now. You testified that Ariel took this rock and hit you in the face. Isn't that right? That's right. And you said the first hit, she got me kind of good, right? That's right. And you said she kept trying, right? That's right. And you testified, you tried to start blocking it, right? Yes. And you testified, she actually got a couple more hits in, right? Yes. So, but you don't. You don't know how many hits, right?
Starting point is 00:32:11 No. One good hit to the side of your face, correct? That's right. The prosecutor then asked Gerhard Koenig about his alleged sexual demands. Just to clarify one more time, you testified this morning that you were not sexually demanding towards Ariel. Is that correct? I think we, the question was if I ever demanded sex of every, and I've never demanded sex. never demanded sex of ARI.
Starting point is 00:32:41 So you never demanded it, right? That's right. How often did you want to have sex with Ariel? There was no specific number of times. It was up to every other day, right? Was what up to every other day? You wanted to have sex with Ariel and have an amount up to every other day. Isn't that correct?
Starting point is 00:33:05 At some point in our relationship, we had sex, I'm sure, every other day for, you know, that, period of time, but there was never a point in our relationship where I, what's the question? So in December, 24, after you confronted Ariel about this relationship, you still wanted to have sex with her every other day. That is not true. Gerhard Koenig said he and Ariel, they never had sex again after December of 2024. The jury could begin deliberations after the long Easter weekend. And that's a lot of, it for this episode of Crime Fix. I'm Angela Letley. Thanks so much for being with me. I'll see you back here next time.

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