Crime Junkie - MISSING: Brittany Wallace Shank
Episode Date: June 22, 2026On November 30, 2018, 23-year-old Brittany Wallace Shank showed up barefoot and bleeding at a stranger's door asking for help. She said the man she was with had crashed their car and ran away. Deputie...s were on the way. But before they arrived, Brittany disappeared into the darkness. She has never been seen again. If you know anything about the disappearance of Brittany Wallace Shank, especially if you recognize the man in these sketches, you can contact the St. Joseph County Sheriff’s Office at 269-467-9045. Head over to our Crime Junkie YouTube channel to WATCH this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV08qqbNnrI Source materials for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. For a full list of sources, please visit: https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-brittany-wallace-shank/ Did you know you can listen to this episode ad-free? Join the Fan Club! Visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/fanclub/ to view the current membership options and policies. Don’t miss out on all things Crime Junkie! Instagram: @crimejunkiepodcast | @audiochuck Twitter: @CrimeJunkiePod | @audiochuck TikTok: @crimejunkiepodcast Facebook: /CrimeJunkiePodcast | /audiochuckllc Crime Junkie is hosted by Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat. Instagram: @ashleyflowers | @britprawat Twitter: @Ash_Flowers | @britprawat TikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkie Facebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF Text Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Where is the emergency?
Offle of Fawn River.
Okay, you're on Fawn River Road near what cross street?
You're what cross street or what address are you at on Fawn River?
Where are we at?
I don't know what street.
I guess it's on Fon River River.
Okay, do you have an address on Fon River?
Here's the guy.
Okay, sure.
That 911 call you just heard came into St. Joseph County Dispatch just before nine at night on November 30th, 2018, from a house off a rural road right outside Sturgis, Michigan.
The girl just came to the back door and she had no shoes on, no coat.
She's bleeding on her feet, their arms.
She said her boyfriend took off somewhere.
He wrecked the car and took off running, I guess.
If you didn't catch all that, the man, his name is John, said that the young woman that came to his back door was stranded after her boyfriend wrecked their car and then took off on foot without her.
It was bitter cold with snow on the ground.
So the fact that she showed up barefoot with no coat and a bit scratched up and bleeding was caused for concern.
Okay, so she said that her boyfriend took off from using her or what happened?
I don't know. I couldn't tell you there.
I mean, does she need medical attention?
Or you said it's not curious or what's going on?
Under the static and radio chatter,
you can hear the young woman John is speaking to in the background of the call.
She doesn't sound panic.
Her tone is measured.
And she tells them that she does want medical attention.
Okay.
So here's time that makes you can tell.
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
We'll get somebody down that way for her.
Do you haven't to know what her name is?
Is that me your name?
She don't see her to talk to me.
Okay.
Welcome back to here.
That's the moment when the woman takes off from John's.
Still barefoot, but wearing a green John Deere sweatshirt that John had given her for warmth.
The help is coming down that way.
I just need her to stay there if she wants assistance.
Yeah, she went outside.
She has got those shoes on.
Give her a dragon.
Law enforcement would later learn that the woman who ran was 23-year-old Britney Wallace Shank.
She was moments away from help, but something pulled her away from the safety of John's back porch.
What or who or why has never been fully determined.
Because since Brittany slipped into the darkness that November night back in 2018,
she has never been seen again.
And trying to understand what happened to her,
what even brought Brittany out to that rural road to begin with,
and who she was with,
opens a Pandora's box of conflicting stories, troubling allegations,
and a mystery that is taken on a life of its own.
I'm your host Ashley Flowers.
And I'm Britt.
And welcome back, crime junkies.
The entire scenario that kicked
off this case. A woman comes to a stranger's door, a little worse for the wear, shoeless,
coatless, in the cold, saying she was in a car wreck and her boyfriend took off and left her.
Then she takes off just before deputies are about to come. That would be more than enough for
a red flag to be thrown up for crime junkies, right? Like we would be like spiraling and like
jumping into action. Actually, we've literally seen this play out before. This feels like a slightly
different version of the start to our episode on Lisk when Shannon Gilbert was.
was like running to a house looking for help.
Maybe that's why to me this should have been so alarming from the jump.
But sadly, that's apparently not what's on the minds of first responders.
We were able to get what seems to be most of the case file.
And when they look over the car that's been abandoned,
they realize this was far from a serious crash.
One of the few things almost everyone in this case can actually agree on
is just how thick the fog was that night.
and it looked like the car had basically just kind of like veered off the road into,
they call it a ditch, but like we're talking a very shallow ditch and then maybe got stuck.
The car was still drivable, though.
And even the injuries that John saw, he described them as small cuts on her feet and her arms.
But I don't know where those would have come from.
Some suggest that maybe from the brush in the field going from the car to Johns,
if she cut through that way and didn't use the road.
But like this is like right where we grew up.
Yeah.
These like Michigan, Indiana, northern Indiana like fields.
And this is in November.
Late November.
Everything is like cut down by this point.
Yeah, there'd be like some sticks and stuff in like the farm fields, but not a lot.
I know.
And some people have even said, oh, well, if they cut down the corn and the stocks were still up, like, but I was like, yeah, but deep tracks I know my fields.
You have to switch between corn and soybeans.
What was it that year?
I don't know.
And you sometimes like till it under at the end of the season.
So like, yes, there'd be stocks, but they're like half.
buried. Also, like, there is the paved road that goes right to his house, like, from where the car was.
So, like, I don't even know that she would have had to have cut through a field.
Listen, I don't know where the cuts come from. But I don't think it was from the crash because there is really no crash.
I have talked to enough cops to know that they do see a lot of this, right? Like, if a driver doesn't want to
encounter police for whatever reason, they will just leave a vehicle. Maybe there was a reason that Brittany
seemed cagey with John.
Maybe she didn't really want the police to come out there.
Okay, but then why go asking for medical help?
That is not a mystery that they attempt to solve right then.
I mean, I don't think they know who the woman was when they first show up.
They don't know that it was Britney.
They're kind of thinking, like, whoever that was,
she's probably just going to show back up.
And the truth is the people in Brittany's life
were probably making some of the same assumptions.
The 23-year-old mom was struggling with some.
substance use. She had recently given up custody of her four kids while trying to get back on her
feet, hoping to start a new job, maybe enroll in school. And she had a warrant out for her arrest
at the time for larceny. So when she goes MIA, at least at first, they kind of wonder if that's
because she wanted to. But don't get it twisted. I mean, some of her family and friends had been
looking for her, like asking around. Even her boyfriend had been out trying to find her. The boyfriend
who took off on her?
That's the catch.
It was her boyfriend, Sheldon Ashbrook.
It was his car that she had been driving.
But when police dropped by unannounced after the incident,
likely sometime around 10.30 p.m. or later to tell him that his car had been impounded,
Shelton was home and informed them that he hadn't even been with Britney.
She borrowed his car that night, and he said he had no clue who she would have been with.
So it sounds like even he just assumed that Brittany was either in.
embarrassed, maybe by what she had done to his car, or maybe she was laying low due to the fact
that there was a warrant out on her. But weirdly, it doesn't seem like he told her family about
the car incident right away. I mean, he told some friends, but the family didn't find out until
later that she had taken off after the car went off the road. Though even then, they hear that the car
was operable, so she must have just walked off, right? Even her being barefoot in the snow didn't stand
out to them too much. Her mom told us that Brittany was known to run around in flip-flops or even
barefoot, even when it was freezing in Michigan. And listen, those instincts might have been right.
Because it turns out when Brittany went to Johns that night looking for help, she did. She went to
his house looking to use the phone, but she didn't necessarily call 911 right away. She had actually
tried calling her grandma Vicky first. But either that call didn't go through or grandma just didn't
answer. And I don't know for sure if it was her or John who actually ended up dialing 911.
Like, she ends up passing the phone off to him pretty quickly and then doesn't seem to want to
give him any information. So I keep thinking maybe he, like, dialed before she realized what was going on.
Like, since she didn't seem scared, my gut is that Britt probably wasn't looking from help for, like,
first responders. She called Grandma, like, for a ride or something. Exactly. And when she realized that deputies
were going to be showing up, she took off.
But that doesn't explain why she hadn't turned back up now.
And with every day that passed with no word from her,
everyone who knew Brittany was growing more worried,
especially the longer she went without being active on social media.
Because apparently she is like a Facebook junkie.
But the real final straw that set off alarm bells
was learning that Brittany hadn't been in touch with her grandma Vicky at all.
after she tried to call her that night.
Because the two of them were close,
and they talked constantly.
So eight days after the night
that she walked off into the cold,
Britney's dad, Greg Wallace,
reports her missing to the St. Joseph County Sheriff's Office.
And once they open an investigation,
they decide to go to Grandma,
since she likely had the most contact with Brittany.
They think she's going to be super helpful
in trying to map out Brits' movements
leading up to the night of November 30th.
And it is a worthwhile stop.
Grandma is a wealth of information because luckily, the last time grandma had seen Britt
just so happened to be the same night of this car crash or the car going off the road.
And Britt wasn't alone.
Deputies learn that earlier on November 30th, sometime around 6.30 and 7 p.m., Brittany had stopped
by her grandma's house to do laundry with a guy.
Now it doesn't sound like they were really interacting too much with anyone else at the house,
but that could have been because they had been using drugs that night.
Now later, when her family finally heard that 911 call,
they told us that they suspect that she was high because of the way that she sounded.
Now, at grandma, she and this guy also appeared to be arguing a bit,
and he was rushing her like he had somewhere better to be.
And they stayed long enough to wash the clothes, but not long enough to like fully dry them.
Instead, Brittany stuffed damp laundry into a basket and then they left together.
Let's call it like 8.30, 8.45 p.m.
So Sheldon lied.
Sheldon did not lie.
Grandma knows Sheldon.
He and Brittany had been friends for years before dating on and off.
Grandma says this wasn't him.
Okay, then who was he?
Britain, nobody knows.
But like I said, like Brittany and this guy barely interacted with anyone else.
And in hindsight, Grandma said,
there was something off about this guy.
Like he just, they couldn't put their finger on it.
Nobody ever got his name, though, is the catch.
They do have a pretty good description of him.
He is this thin white guy in his like early to mid-20s between 5-6, 5-8-ish,
with short blonde hair and thick mutton-chop sideburns,
like Elvis, as grandma described.
And he was wearing like a yellow sweatsuit type outfit with like some black on it.
So when Brittany said her boyfriend took off after the crash, is she talking about this guy, like whoever he is?
If there was a man in the car with her when it went off the road, I think it has to be this guy just based on the timeline, right?
So based on what grandma remembers, they left her house around 8.30 p.m.
The spot where the car went off the road is about a five-minute drive away.
And then getting to Johns should take less than 10 minutes on foot.
We know that the 911 call is placed around 8.50.
So it seems like there wouldn't have been a lot of time for her to have, like, picked up anyone else.
Like, I don't think anyone else could have been in that car with her.
If someone was in the car with her, it has to be this guy that she left grandmas with.
Now, is there a chance that she dropped him somewhere and she was alone in the car?
Maybe.
But there isn't a whole lot in this area.
I was going to say, this is like a pretty rural area, right?
Yeah.
So personally, I think it's unlikely.
Also, the direction that they were driving is kind of interesting.
to me. I don't know where Brittany was headed to, but like the direction she was going in was
toward Bronson. Now, she used to live in Bronson, but Bronson is away from Sturgis, where she has
been staying with Sheldon. Now, the thing I'll say is that we're told a lot of drug connections
lived out that way in Bronson. So maybe she was going to somewhere she used to live or to a connection
she knew, but like, I have no idea. Okay, so I'm buying that the mystery man is in the car with her.
But like, why does she call him her boyfriend, though?
Nobody really knows.
Now, I mean, I have to say,
according to some family members that we spoke to,
Sheldon actually did kind of fit at least some parts of the description.
Like, he is blonde.
I think he has like similar-ish facial hair, which I can show you.
But the build, I think, was really different.
And years later, some close to the case would question
just how reliable everyone's memory really was that.
night, right? Like Grandma's saying, I know Sheldon's for sure not him, but they also say
grandma had a few beers. And nobody at the house seemed to be paying particularly close attention
to this guy. And I'm not like blaming them for that. They couldn't have known the importance that
like he would become in this case. But Grandma says it is not Sheldon. So to your point, why is
Brittany calling someone else her boyfriend? Maybe she used the term loosely. Maybe it was someone that
she was seeing on the side.
Or maybe she just didn't feel like explaining her love life to a complete stranger, right?
Because let me tell you, her love life was pretty freaking complicated, as we will soon get into.
But just a quick observation.
I've seen what's believed to be the last selfie that Brittany took from Sheldon's car before
leaving that night.
And she looks pretty done up.
Maybe that means absolutely nothing.
but to me it doesn't exactly scream like I'm just going to grandma's to do laundry.
More likely she may have been like going out, going to meet up with somebody.
Yes.
And if she was seeing another guy, then the question becomes, did Sheldon know about it?
When investigators circle back to Sheldon, the short answer, according to him, is no.
He admits the two weren't exactly in the best place the day that she vanished, mostly due to Brits' mess.
use. He insists this wasn't some like blow-up fight they had or anything, more just like bickering.
But he does say that before leaving the house that night, Brittany told him something along the
lines of, you're not going to like me much later, which he took to mean at the time that she was
going to go out and get high. He says he actually didn't want to lend his car to her that night.
People we spoke to told us that that car was his baby. But that night, Brittany asked to borrow it
so she could go to her grandmas. And according to Sheldon,
And he actually even offered to drive her himself.
Like it was only like a 15-minute cruise away.
But he says that Brittany got irritated about this
and was adamant about taking the car alone.
Which makes sense if she's meeting up with another guy.
Which is what I think happens.
Because Sheldon helps fill in more of the timeline for November 30th.
He says that she left his place likely sometime between 5 and 6 p.m.
And not long after, Brittany called him up, like half joking, half complaining,
I think that there wasn't enough gas in the car and she was going to have to stop and fill up.
And after, that's when we have a gap where we think she picks someone up before going to grandma's.
Now, once hours pass by, Sheldon tries contacting Brittany to see where she's at, like she's supposed to be back with his car.
But she won't answer, which probably frustrates him.
Not because he is thinking she's with some other guy.
He is thinking that she's out using.
And like I said, not back with his car after he already seemed like on the fence about her taking it.
And look, after talking to people close to this case, Sheldon doesn't really seem like the jealous type.
He is more so the guy that Britt felt she could always fall back on if she needed something.
So at 9.42 p.m., he actually called a friend and his cousin and asked them to pick him up so they could go out and look for Brittany.
And deputies end up confirming this with those two people.
The first place they said they checked are the Village Manor Apartments in Sturgess.
Why not grandma's if that's where she said she was going?
Well, because according to Sheldon,
Brittany would go to these apartments to visit friends and to do drugs,
or get drugs.
And remember, like, that is what he thought was going on here,
why she isn't back.
But he goes there, doesn't spot her car.
So then they did go by grandmas.
No car there either.
They said they drove back to the Village Manor Apartments one more time.
But when they still couldn't find her,
they just went back to Sheldon's house.
And it is very soon after he gets back home
that there is a knock on his door.
Not Brittany, obviously, but police.
And so now we're back to the point in the timeline
that I've already told you about.
When officers showed up to tell him
that his car was found abandoned
after this quote unquote crash.
And Sheldon said that he had no clue
who Britt had been with.
And so this is one of the great mysteries
of this case because there is some evidence
to suggest that Brittany
might not have been running from a car accident.
that night. She may have been running from this man. And there are signs that Mystery Man may have found her.
This case started with Sheldon's car going off the road. Supposedly, that is why Brittany went to
Johns and asked to use the phone. But there is something about that that doesn't really ring all the way
true. I mean, yes, the car went off the road, but like I said, I think it was still totally drivable.
Now, police did have it towed, probably just because it had been abandoned.
Someone had fled the scene.
But most people our reporter Madison talked to said that this ditch was super shallow.
Like, arguably, they wouldn't even call it a real ditch.
I wouldn't either.
I was like, on Google Maps, I've seen videos that they sent us up out.
Like, you grew up in this area.
I can, like, close my eyes and imagine it's like a slight divot on the shoulder and then back into the field.
Barely.
And if a car went off, and I know there's a little snow on the ground, like,
Say it was really low to the ground,
I think even just with a little bit of effort,
you would have been able to get it out of there.
Now, to be fair, if you're on your own
or, like, if you were high,
maybe you are really stuck.
But for arguments' sake,
say the car could have been driven out of there.
Why wouldn't she?
Maybe she was trying to get away from someone in the car.
Remember, she had those small cuts and injuries
that can't fully be explained by her just going off the road.
maybe tapping a little small tree that was there.
Grandma said that Brittany and the mystery man seemed to be arguing a bit, remember.
And Brittany's mom, Jessica Rolf, told us something interesting about her.
Believe it or not, she said that Brittany actually had this habit of impulsively jumping out of cars when she was pissed off.
Like it's something her mom had witnessed her doing before in an argument.
And to further hint at this idea that something happened in the car,
When Sheldon got the car back from impound, he says the inside was trashed.
Like, the glove box was open, Britney's purse had supposedly been, like, dumped out,
her belongings were scattered everywhere.
And apparently, that was exactly how it was when first responders found it on the side of the road in the first place.
So, say something happened in that car before or after it went off the road.
Was Brittany trying to get away from the person she was in the car with?
If so, there is a good chance that he caught up to her.
Now, John isn't around anymore for us to get this story directly from him.
But Brittany's dad, Greg, relayed to us that John had told someone
that when he went out to his detached garage the next morning after Brittany had been at his house,
it looked like someone had gone through his stuff.
The insinuation being that this had supposedly happened when Britney herself was inside with John,
talking to dispatch.
Meaning mystery man is in the garage.
Right.
But that doesn't mean she didn't know.
What do you mean?
I'd venture to guess people are more willing to open their door to a young woman in trouble than a woman and a man.
Like maybe she went up to use the phone, told him to wait outside.
Actually, that would make a lot of sense, especially when combined with the tidbit of info that we get, like when deputies can't just the neighborhood.
So, okay, there isn't like much of a neighborhood canvas.
Again, you know this area.
Like it's super spread out.
Yeah, it's pretty rural.
But there was another house not too far from John's on the same road.
And someone in that house saw Britt that night too.
According to the case file, there was this young teen who was home alone.
And they reported seeing Brittany outside this house wearing a big green coat, just like the one that John had given her.
So, I mean, we can almost be sure that this is her.
And we can be sure that this happened after she left Johns.
Right.
But it's what happened next that's really unsettling.
So according to the report, while he watched this woman like circle from the backyard to the front, like peering through the windows, he heard someone else knocking on his front door at the same time.
Now, this teenager was obviously like super freaked out.
He's not going to answer the door for whoever is knocking.
So he didn't see what that person looked like or anything.
The question is was to like to your point.
So, like, I was originally thinking, like, was this person, like, stalking her and looking for her, thinking maybe, you know, she was at Johns, maybe she's here.
Or now thinking what you're saying, were they together?
Did they travel to that second house together?
So did they ever do searches in, like, the fields?
Because, again, like, looking at a map of this, like you said, this is an area like where I grew up.
These houses are kind of, like, square miles apart sometimes.
They're huge.
Yeah.
Huge fields in between.
If she's barefoot and it's freezing, there's some snow on the ground.
And this next house didn't open their door.
Like, maybe she didn't make it any further.
Yeah, I mean, people have wondered that, thinking that, like, she, like, either became disoriented in, like, the freezing dark.
Especially if she was using drugs.
She succumbed to the elements somewhere near the road that they're on.
It's called Fawn River Road.
Or they're even thinking, like, did she possibly overdose?
But to answer your question, yes, they have searched.
And they haven't found anything.
So, like, that makes me think that that's super unlikely.
Especially when you think about this is, like, late November, early December when they're searching.
This is flat, flat farmland for, like, as far as the eye can see.
The joke is, like, you can watch your dog run away for a week.
Like, there's nothing there.
If she had just, like, you know, fallen and died there or, like, whatever succumbed.
You would see her body.
She would have been discovered by now.
And even since those early days, there have been even more searches beyond the open,
fields, like in surrounding woods, water, but still, Brittany has never been found.
And outside of people having their own varying opinions on who he might be,
mystery man has never been identified.
Which I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around because this is, this is like
2018, right?
Yeah, this is like fairly recently.
Right, did we not pull phone records?
How do we not know who she was meeting up with that night?
And, like, what about the car?
because Prince should have been all over it if he was in it, right?
It's so frustrating.
So we know she has her phone with her when she leaves Sheldon.
Remember, she took that selfie.
Right.
But I don't know what happened to her phone because actually one of the things I keep wondering is why she wouldn't use that to call for help.
Like, why did she even need to go to John's farmhouse at all?
And according to Sheldon, it hadn't been left behind in his car when he went to pick it up.
So the only thing that I can come up with as far as her phone goes is like, A, maybe Mystery Man took it.
And, like, that's why she needed to go to Johns.
Or B, like, I'm trying to think back to 2018.
Was this a world where, like, there was bad service?
Like, I mean, it could definitely be spotty for sure.
And listen, I know, according to the case file, authorities attempted to ping it.
Even though you can't find it, in my mind, I'm like, you know, it is 2018.
Let's pull the records.
But it's noted in the case file that whatever ping they tried to do just didn't work.
Like, the phone was either off or it was roaming or there was, like, no service.
Okay, but can't they say?
see where it was like before it went offline?
I would think, but there is no detail in the records about this.
And law enforcement wouldn't talk to us.
So I don't know exactly what they did or didn't pull.
And I believe it may have been like a prepaid or like pay as you go kind of thing.
So like I don't know if that factors in.
But even still, I don't know what they tried to track location-wise or like communication-wise
like related to that phone.
But if anything, I assume it did.
didn't lead them to Mystery Man or we wouldn't be here talking about it.
Right. And what about the car?
So, oh, that is the thing that's kind of frustrate you.
It was just never processed.
I guess because they just assumed initially that this was like a girl who didn't want to be found.
Like, they're not thinking foul play, especially not at first.
So, like, they just give it back to Sheldon.
He just goes to pick it up from impound, no problem.
And then I don't know if, like, by the time they, like, realize what's going on, they're like, oh, well, too late.
To me, it's never too late, but, like, never gets processed.
But at least in giving evidence back to Sheldon, they did get a statement from him.
And he starts telling police about the people that Brittany was known to go see,
starting with a woman named Ashley Huli.
And Ashley's interesting because she lives at the same village manor apartments in Sturgis
where Sheldon first went looking for Brittany the night that she vanished.
It wasn't Grandma's house he went to.
It was there.
Right.
And Sheldon told investigators that he did that because Britius,
She said me regularly went there to buy and use meth.
But Ashley wasn't just some random drug dealer.
When she comes in to speak with investigators,
she tells them just how deeply she was tied to Brittany.
Their sisters.
And she's desperate to find her,
and she is already trying to do whatever she can to help.
Except that's a lie.
I mean, she did seem to be inserting herself into the investigation,
but she is not Britney's blood sister.
Britney's dad is like, I don't even know who this woman is.
What?
Now, Ashley does eventually clarify that she and Brittany are not biologically related.
They're just like really close.
And in a later interview, she'd eventually say that Brittany was her best friend, but she didn't know if she was Britney's.
And some of Britney's family says Ashley may not have been nearly as close to Brittany as she was presenting herself to be.
And over time, they start wondering whether Ashley is.
is genuinely trying to help solve Britney's disappearance.
Because like I said, she just keeps like putting herself in the middle.
Or whether she may be trying to steer attention away from something else entirely.
But what?
According to Ashley, she and Britt had recently been in touch.
But pinning down exactly when they last spoke or saw each other gets a bit tricky.
Because in one part of her interview, Ashley tells investigators that the last time
she physically saw Brittany was November 23rd.
Okay.
Then later, she changes that to November 28.
But she says the last contact of any kind she had with Brittany was through Facebook Messenger on November 30th, the very day she vanished.
And listen, from what we know, that communication was friendly enough, like Britt was just checking in on her.
And what did their other interactions say?
Like, further back.
Why, I'd love to tell you, but, and this is jumping ahead just a little bit, something weird ends up how much.
with Brittany's social media, people we spoke to told us that Facebook Messenger was like
one of the main ways that Brittany communicated. But everything on her social media had gone
completely dark since she disappeared. Except months after she had been missing, a friend
notices that one of her Facebook accounts suddenly appears active again. So she tells Brits' mom,
Jessica Rolf, who then notifies law enforcement. And it's not like she is talking to anyone
or like posting anything normally.
The account just starts doing these strange things.
Like they think stuff was possibly being like hidden, deleted, altered in some way.
Then apparently some of Brits' conversations with Ashley start disappearing.
Now, I know investigators took the activity seriously enough that in July of 2019,
they requested emergency Facebook records tied to Brittany's account and they obtained IP address information connected to the logins.
But a freaking course, they're finding.
aren't documented in the files that we got access to.
Why would they be?
But I do believe at least some of that activity that happened on her account can be tied to Ashley
because our reporter Madison got in touch with Ashley and she did agree to answer some
questions via Facebook Messenger, of course.
But they did end up hopping on a quick call later for some like follow-ups at the last
minute too. Now, Ashley acknowledges that she did, in fact, access some of Brits' online accounts
after she disappeared. But she says that it's not in the way that's, like, being portrayed.
Like, it wasn't malicious. She says that Sheldon sent her a picture of, like, notebooks that
Britney kept with passwords and account recovery information and that they were, like, hoping those
accounts might reveal who Brittany had been talking to before she went missing.
According to Ashley, most of the passwords no longer work.
And she says she was only able to get into that one Facebook account.
And later, she told detectives that she had access to it.
They asked her to stop going in.
She says she did.
But then months later, she says that a private investigator approached her for help accessing the additional accounts.
Now, Ashley says she believed that this PI was like working with law enforcement.
And, like, again, she was trying to help.
Ashley's explanation is that she wasn't trying to alter evidence or hide information.
she was simply looking for clues that might help locate Brittany.
And here's the thing she says isn't correct about any of these allegations.
She says that lots of stuff was already gone before she got access to it.
And according to her, it wasn't even just messages between her and Britt that got deleted either.
She says there were lots more.
But both of Brits' parents dispute that.
Who else's got deleted?
Her parents say that there is at least one other person.
whose messages seem to have been messed with.
It was actually the one other person whose name kept coming up over and over again with Ashley's,
as they, like, police and her family were talking to people.
And that is Eric Shank, Britney's husband.
One, her what, but two of these names are also giving me a hard time.
Britt, Ash, Eric, I know, I know.
Listen, I told you that her love life is complicated and buckle up because this is,
is where the case really takes a turn.
Eric Shank is Brittany's ex,
but still he was technically her husband in November of 2018.
They're separated, but still legally married,
and sharing two children.
Brittany had reportedly started filling out divorce papers
shortly before she disappeared to try and make things official.
Now, whatever arrangement they had going on
meant that Brittany was free to date Sheldon
or whoever else she wanted.
But emotionally, things were messier than that.
Because according to Brittany's mom, Jessica, even though the relationship had become incredibly toxic due to drugs,
Brittany and Eric still had this intense pull toward one another.
Like, they could split up and somehow still always end up right back in each other's orbit.
And by the time Brittany goes missing, she may be back with Sheldon,
but Eric is still deeply woven into her everyday life.
and into their little friend group because Eric knows Ashley well too.
He goes to her apartment to buy and use drugs too.
And when he's later asked where he was when Brittany went missing,
Eric remembered staying over at Ashley's apartment that entire night.
Oh, that is part of why some of Britney's family starts paying such close attention to Ashley moving forward.
She is basically Eric's alibi.
And Eric hurt.
And when we asked her about that night, Ashley, I mean, she said Eric came over at like 8.40 p.m. and then was there, like, most of the time.
So perfect alibi for the kind of exact time that Brittany goes missing.
Yes, but around 1 a.m., she says that he left, took her car to put air in the tires.
And then it sounds like he, like, comes back.
And then he eventually, like, leaves her place again to go back home to his parents at around, like, 2 a.m.
Quick question. Were they like together together? Like, I love him. He's great. My husband's not running out to fill up my tires at one in the morning. They say no. Like Ashley was actually dating someone else. At the time, this guy named Curtis Polly, who everyone called Pocket. Get it? I got it. But Ashley being tied up with someone else or not, I think the thing that's important here is that Brittany's mom, Jessica, told us she believed there is no way that Brittany would have been cool with how close they seemingly were. And Ashley herself, tell us.
detectives that she thought Brittany wanted to work things out with Eric, even though she was seeing
Sheldon. But what Ashley is saying doesn't exactly pass the sniff test. And I'll give you an
example. I'm sorry, him staying over at her house late night isn't the example. Well, that could have
been anything. Britt, you know. Honestly, truly. It maybe was about like the drugs. Maybe he crashed
there. Also, it sounds like he's up and out and about it, like one in the morning. Like, maybe no one's
crashing and they're just like hanging out. It's hard to prove anything with them.
But this next thing, especially the timing, is a little bit harder to argue with.
It's body cam footage from a traffic stop in Three Rivers, Michigan, involving Eric from December 23, 2018.
So we're talking like three weeks after Brittany went missing.
Is it your car, Eric?
No, it does not.
No, we just bought it for a night for Fridays.
You what?
I borrowed it from my girlfriend.
We got out in those damn woods all day.
What are you guys doing out in the woods?
Looking for my wife.
Is she missing?
Yeah, she's been in Wallace.
She's been missing since November 30th.
Britt, do you want to guess who he says his girlfriend is?
So I'm following this black Ford SUV with a plate out of Sturgis registered to Ashley Huli showing no insurance.
And it's cutting through the first ward neighborhood using side streets.
So I make a traffic stop on it because it's not insured.
It's Eric Shank driving.
He's on a restricted license.
and John Fox Jr. is in the passenger seat.
Now, Ashley's relationship with Eric is one of the things that we asked her about.
And she did admit to us that after Brittany vanished,
she and Eric spent a lot of time together because they were both caught up in the search.
They were using drugs.
They were dealing with intense emotions.
And Ashley acknowledges that their relationship did eventually become intimate,
but she maintains that happened only after Britney's disappearance.
She says it was not during the time of this.
traffic stop, when he is calling her his girlfriend, or even before.
So anyways, back to this stop, because there is more here.
The officers, like, are searching the car as part of this.
And it sounds like they're, like, concerned about drugs.
But when they ask John Fox Jr., or JJ, as he's known, if he's got anything on him,
he explains that he's got a notepad in his pocket full of names because he's trying to figure out
what he described as some sex trafficking thing that's been good.
going on. And I can't be 100% sure, but I think he's insinuating that this sex trafficking thing has something to do with their search for Brittany, maybe even like why they've been out in the woods all day. But weirdly, these officers, like, don't press. I mean, you can definitely sense that they're, like, skeptical about why they're really out there. But remember, Brits' missing person case isn't theirs. Like, this is Three Rivers. She went missing in St. Joseph County. So they have no reason to connect these dots.
Exactly. Now, when Ashley shows up to the scene, because she'd been called, it's her vehicle that they're in.
Right. And when she's asked by an officer, she does, in that moment, deny that she is Eric's girlfriend, saying that he's, like, just a friend. But she's clearly upset that her car is going to get impounded. She says, like, she can't afford it, that she has already been through a lot. And then the situation just kind of, like, escalates from there fast. They say she's not cooperating and she ends up in handcuffs. And then she claims officers hit her head on the car while arresting her.
JJ and Eric, on the other hand, appear to be staying like cool as cucumbers.
And even though officers find needles, needle caps, and a billy club-type impact weapon...
I'm sorry, a what?
Like, you know, one of those like a heavy, like duty nightstick kind of thing.
Like a police, like a police baton.
They find all of this in there.
Still, they decide to give these guys a break because it's the day before Christmas Eve.
Happy holidays, folks.
So all things considered, Eric.
and JJ seemingly like make it out of this traffic stop pretty much unscathed.
But here's like another reason why I think this stop is so important.
And it has to do with JJ, the passenger in the car.
So remember in our timeline of November 30th, after Britt leaves the house in Sheldon's car,
Sheldon said that she had called him up complaining that there wasn't enough gas.
She was going to have to like stop, fill it up, whatever.
So if Britt did end up stopping for gas that,
night, that would make sense. Well, what have I told you? There is reason to believe Ashley had
the receipt from the transaction that Britt made in her possession at some point.
Ashley, who's saying she didn't see Britney at all that particular day? That's the one. Cool.
So this receipt is for 20 bucks worth of gas at the Marathon Station on Fawn River Road. Which is
the road that like everything is happening on. Yes. It is timestamped for 6.11 p.m. on.
on November 30th, and it appears to have Brits' account information on it.
But investigators don't end up with the physical copy of the receipt.
They end up with photos of the receipt that Ashley had.
That's somehow almost weirder?
I know.
Weirder to me is that she's not even the one who originally brought it to their attention either.
Okay, but why does she have them?
Okay, so this is all according to a later interview that she does with a detective.
Okay.
Basically, she tells them that her Ford Explorer had been stolen sometime near the end of January, beginning of February 2019.
So this is, like, to put it in context, like, two months after Britt went missing.
Okay.
Two months after her car is taken, it's finally recovered.
Okay.
She says that when she got her car back, there was this garbage bag full of just, like, random items and trash inside the vehicle.
And Ashley said she started, like, digging through the bag, trying to get,
of who took her car to see what they've been up to or whatever.
And she claims that is where the gas receipt turned up.
So she said she snapped a picture of it.
And to be fair, she said she took photos of a lot of things that she found in that bag.
And she said she didn't realize the significance of the receipt until it had already been
thrown away.
But if you didn't think it was important, then why take a photo of it then?
I mean, it's literally what Mads asked her to.
And Ashley said something that I think kind of contradicts what I just told you from her
official statement to investigators because she tells Mads now that she actually did notice the
November 30th date, the time, like the specific gas station, and she said she had this gut feeling
that it might be connected to Britt, even though at that point in time she said that no one was
thinking foul play yet.
It's important if there was foul play that no one's thinking about yet.
Yeah, like.
What?
Because she's like at that point, they're just like trying to, when she finds it, like, track down
her friend.
I don't know.
But I do know that back when she was telling police this,
she did believe she knew who took her vehicle,
and who had it for like two months.
And here we're coming back, John Fox Jr.
JJ.
JJ.
She told Madison she's confident it was JJ
because she claims he literally took off with her keys,
left her a note saying he was borrowing it,
and then just like never bothered bringing it back.
Oh.
The thing is she's not necessarily.
saying that, like, he's the one who had the receipt initially.
She's kind of just like, you know, it could have easily been, like, any one of the many people
in the circle that he associated with that he could have, like, picked up or been in the vehicle
or borrowed the vehicle in, like, the time period that she is saying she did not have it.
And he supposedly did.
But here's the thing.
The gas receipt isn't the only thing connected to Brittany that somehow resurfaces after she disappears.
Because remember, Britney's phone never recovered from Shelton's car or anywhere else.
That's still not totally found after the crash.
And this did always strike her family as odd because according to Jessica, Brittany would have, like, fought somebody over that phone.
So for it to be completely, like, gone that night with her, like seemingly untraceable, that's always been like a big mystery.
Like they're thinking that it has to be with her, right, who is missing.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
But then this happens.
So Eric Shank showed up to one of the early searches for Brittany, dropped off by Ashley, by the way.
Even though Brits family told us that, like, at this point in time, like, they did not even know who she was.
But it is like in this one of like early day searches that he claims to have found part of Brits' phone.
Part of it.
So according to people close to the case, what Eric allegedly said he found was the best.
backplate from a Samsung phone that resembled the one that Brittany had been using before she disappeared, this Samsung J337P.
And we know that that's reportedly the same model tied to the selfie that Brittany took before leaving Sheldon's that night.
It all seems to match up.
But some of Brits family tell us that they're suspicious of this whole like finding.
Because according to them, Eric was off searching by himself in a field near the crash site,
when he made this alleged discovery.
No one else from the search party was there to witness it.
And what's even weirder, Brits' mom Jessica said that he didn't even, like, run over to the rest of the group and tell them, like, I found this clue.
Yeah.
Jessica said that he just, like, left and she learned about it later.
Now, in the case file, there is mention of a ZTE cell phone missing backplate listed under the evidence, but there's, like, no other details.
I don't know if this is the one that we're talking about.
I also don't know why you would call it a missing backplate.
And they don't give any notes in the file about who ended up turning it in, when that happened,
or if investigators were ever even able to confirm that it was in fact Britney's.
Still, the family can't help but wonder, did Eric genuinely stumble across part of Britney's phone while searching for her?
Or did he somehow already have it?
Did anyone ever just ask him?
Not really.
Even though Eric is her husband, even though he is allegedly finding evidence, even though he is tied up in some weird way to Ashley who seemed to keep finding herself at the center of this thing,
St. Joseph County investigators don't seem to question Eric at all until more than six months after Brittany went missing.
And even that appears to have been this super short interaction from what I can tell.
During that little chat, Eric even admitted he hadn't spoken directly with any law enforcement about Brits case before.
And he had only passed information through, guess who, Ashley.
And it wouldn't be until nearly five freaking years later that they would actually sit him down for a 45-minute formal recorded interview.
How is this even remotely acceptable for an investigation?
You tell me.
As someone from the Michiana area, it is embarrassing.
Yes.
Now, while the St. Joseph County Sheriff's Office did provide us with the records, they never got back to us regarding our request for an interview.
But you know what is so bizarre about all of this Eric and Ashley stuff?
I mean, I could go on, but you're going to tell me something new.
Whether it was only with like the pure intentions like that Ashley described.
there is no doubting that Ashley puts herself at the heart of this case.
She is definitely cooperating with investigators,
providing them with theories and leads to chase down,
people she thinks should be looked at as a suspect.
But for some reason, at least in the files we have,
in all of the talking and finger-pointing she's doing,
she never seems to suggest that they look at Eric.
Instead, she really focuses her attention on someone else close to Brittany.
Not Eric, not JJ, the one who supposedly had this like freaking receipt or like some kind of connection to someone who had the receipt or whatever.
No, she turns the tables on Brittany's own mom, Jessica Rolf.
Now, to be fair, we know that Jessica is suspicious of Ashley too.
So they're both pointing the finger at each other.
And the accusations against Jessica kind of stick for at least a brief moment in time.
And that's because of some disturbing voice memos between mother and daughter that end up getting leaked.
Ashley Huli believes Brittany's mom, Jessica Rolf, at the very least, knows more than she's saying about what happened to Brittany.
Because according to the case file, there was special.
that Brits' disappearance was somehow linked to retaliation of some sort.
Like maybe Jessica owed some dangerous people money or there were like stolen drugs or something of like of the sort there.
Now to be very clear, investigators never publicly substantiated any of those claims against Jessica.
But this is where the case really starts spiraling.
Because even by Jessica's own account, she and Brittany did have a complicated relationship.
They fought about drug use.
They fought about the custody of Britney's children.
And Jessica admits that she and Brittany had even fought over men.
They had been involved with two of the same guys over the years,
although apparently like at different times.
You can imagine this left a lot of room for rumors to run rampant,
especially considering Jessica herself was wrapped up in the local drug scene
and struggling with substance use back then.
so none of it looked good.
But after several years of what seems like back and forth finger pointing,
this video gets blasted online that plays horribly for Jessica.
It's a recording of one of their mother-daughter arguments
from not too long before Britt went missing.
And honestly, it is hard to hear.
But because it's already out there and has become part of the narrative surrounding this case,
I felt like it was important to acknowledge and to play for you, to play for everyone listening.
But it has been edited down slightly for time's sake.
Now, this is from about a month before Britt went missing.
And these voice memos seemed to center around a man named Daniel,
who Brittany had dated and then Jessica had had a thing with.
Now, Daniel seemed to be stoking the fire around, like, Britney's custody of her children.
She had recently given up custody, and her mom was furious.
First off, you destroyed yourself.
You are a toxic waste to everything and everybody you touch.
Secondly, no, I'm not going to threaten you about jail.
I'm not going to threat you about Daniel.
I am kind of threatening about Daniel.
But you need to shut your big ass mouth.
Don't be making phone calls.
Don't be sending people to send in messages.
Like, you are full of, everybody knows it.
You're sick in the head.
There's something wrong with you.
Seek help.
That's what you need to do.
Immediately.
You fuck with people's lives.
You torment in mine.
You torment your dads.
You torment everybody's.
You torment Daniel.
You torment your children.
You suck, dude.
You suck.
You suck the life right out of people.
Nobody likes you.
We do not want to talk to you.
We do not want to hear from you.
Yep, and you're blocked again.
And no, actually, I'm doing it great.
Thank you.
But you have a good one.
And don't contact me anymore.
You're not my mom.
You mean nothing to me.
And as far as Daniel, that was my closure.
I don't really give a...
Other than that, I don't have anything to say.
So, have a nice life.
Stop contacting me.
And no, I could just see my kids on a regular basis.
All of them.
Thank you.
So stop texting him.
Stop calling him.
Stop emailing him.
Stop everything.
Stop having people contact him.
Or I am going to let everybody know where little Miss Brittany is at.
And I'm going to ruin your life.
Stay the fuck away from everybody.
I was just granted visitation with my boys.
So it doesn't really matter.
you do you and I'll do me
and you can live your dope style
life with Daniel
and let him
keep ruining your life too
it's a piece of shit
I don't do a fuck about him
and I moved back out of state
so it doesn't really matter
and yep that's when my dad talks to me
on a regular basis now too
huh and as far as Daniel goes
I'm with somebody so
I don't really give a shit
like I said that was just my closure
I could care less about him
Those are tough.
I'm tough to listen to.
And what I'll say is this.
Jessica told us that she is not proud of what she said.
She seemed to own it, though.
These voice memos haunt her.
They are played over and over again
sometimes when she least is expecting it.
One of her lowest moments on repeat.
But she says it's taught her to be more careful
about what she says out of anger
because you never know what your last words to someone might be.
And those being hers to Brit is something that she has to live with now.
But she is adamant that no matter how ugly those recording sound,
Brittany did not deserve what happened to her.
She never wanted any harm to come to her daughter.
And she firmly believes that Ashley put those out just to make her look bad
and to divert suspicion away from her and Eric.
And Ashley admitted to us, yes, she was the one who originally got actually.
access to that video.
But she says the story is a bit more complicated than that.
Because she claims at one point she was helping Jessica get into an old Facebook account while
they were still on good terms.
But like, long story short, that changes.
They're no longer cool.
And then she finds these voice memos between Britt and Jessica on Jessica's account.
So while she says she's the one who discovered them, she also is saying she's not the one
responsible for actually circulating them online.
She said that she only shared it with some of Brits' other family members, like people
she thought needed to know.
And like, that's how it got blasted out.
Now, when all of this is said and done, there is nothing that I've come across that seems
to put Jessica with her daughter the night that she went missing or anywhere near Fawn River
Road.
You mean like a gas receipt?
Like that.
I get that where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
But what I am really struggling to find here is the why.
Like, let's say Ashley and Eric at least at a minimum know a little bit more than what they're saying.
What do they know?
Why did she go missing?
Because I've been out there.
I've been in Sturgis.
I've really struggled to believe that this is a random person who could have picked her up.
Like, where does this mystery man come in in all of this?
Well, it is possible that mystery man isn't that much of a mystery at all.
Wait.
Wait, did anyone look at Daniel?
Oh, they definitely looked at Daniel, like, obviously due to all the drama, like and stuff.
Not Daniel.
He, like, apparently was living at the Florida at the time.
Though there was, like, some back and forth questions, like, was he, wasn't he?
I don't know.
I don't think it matters because he is, like, ultra-tatted, like, even on his face.
So, like, doesn't-
Identifiable.
Yeah.
But anyways, not Daniel, but still might be someone she already knows.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Mystery Man has still never conclusively been identified.
But here is the thing about the sketches that were done of Mystery Guy.
So the first one, the one that I showed you already, that one was done by, like, grandma's description in 2019, a couple of months after, like, the incident.
That's the guy with like the long, skinny face, the sideburns.
That one didn't really get circulated publicly.
Like, for some reason, investigators only seem to show it to some people they talk to asking who is.
it like look like to them. Brittany's dad Greg, who is Grandma Vicki's son, told that he was told
detectives never really completely trusted that sketch, which like, and he's like, look, I kind of get it.
Like, right? Remember, their interaction was super brief. Like, people were in and out of that house all the
time. Perhaps that one was wrong. But for some unknown reason, detectives thought that they could
get something better, even if it was like way down the line. So in 2023, they get like a whole new
sketch from Brittany's cousin who was apparently around when Britain this mystery guy were there.
How was something done five years later more accurate than grandma a couple months out?
The only thing that I can make sense for myself is like the person, this cousin who gives
this, they were a teenager.
So like total shot in the dark.
Maybe they hadn't been like drinking like other people in the house or like weren't
intoxicated in some way, like more like clear minded.
Either way, 2023, they give a description.
and somehow police feel confident in this second one.
Now, I'm going to still post both just in case.
Like, they're not wildly different, in my opinion.
And all of that to say, between the two, first, second, whatever,
some people thought that the general description of this mystery man
may be kind of sort of fit Sheldon.
We know that, right, despite the family knowing him.
But some people have also wondered whether,
Eric could have been the mystery man at Grandma's house.
How would they know Sheldon but not Eric, though?
On paper, I know that sounds like ridiculous,
but according to people close to the family,
most of the family hadn't seen Eric in a long time.
Like him and Britt are separated.
They're not living together.
And in that time, I guess his appearance had apparently changed drastically,
likely due to his drug use.
So, Britt, that body cam footage of the traffic stop that we got earlier,
that actually may be one of the most accurate views we have of Eric,
circa the time Brittany, like, vanished.
Because that's from December 2018, remember?
And, like, there's something, like, I noticed about.
Oh, there's sideburns.
Uh-huh.
But the other problem I have, though, is, like, he's got a big beard and glasses.
And we heard that he strictly was, like, a glasses guy.
Yeah, I honestly don't see how it could be him.
Yeah, you would think that that would have, like, stood out?
Plus, remember, based on the timeline Ashley gave us, it probably wouldn't have worked for Eric to be Mystery Man.
But if we believe that, we have to believe that the timeline Ashley is giving us is accurate.
Okay, let's just say Mystery Man isn't Eric.
It still feels like he knows something.
So, again, I ask why.
Like, who actually has motive to want Britney gone?
So of all of the things that have come up over the years, all of the rumors, all of the finger pointing,
I'm telling you, this case is like a, you can get lost in it.
I don't have like a firm, this is it reason to point to.
But there is something that I can point to and say, I think the answer might be here-ish.
So we got word that Brittany had been talking to this guy named Zachary Bowman, seemingly romantically.
And the very evening that she went missing, they talked on the phone several times.
Like it even sounds like one of these calls took place on her way to grandmas.
Is he mystery man?
Well, this I know is not possible because he is in prison at the time.
That is the only reason that we even solidly know about these calls.
Okay, I was going to ask that again.
They're recorded on a prison line.
And Britt, it sounds like we are the first ones to obtain these recordings.
So I was praying that there was going to be some new tidbit of information from them.
Like maybe Britt would drop a name.
or a location, a hint, that we would hear something strange in the background, anything,
because I definitely believe that she picked up Mystery Man on the way to grandmas.
And although she doesn't end up revealing who it was, who was going to be with her that night,
I do think there is something in one of these calls that we got that could be telling.
But I need to give you some quick background context first.
So at the time that Brittany goes missing, we know that Ashley,
says that she's dating a guy that I mentioned earlier, Pocket.
Real name, Curtis Polly.
So part of her alibi outside of Eric being over at her place for most of the night
is that she stayed home upset because Pocket had apparently just been picked up by police.
Apparently, he'd previously been on probation for something drug-related
and decided to ditch his monitoring device.
So in one of the calls with Zach, it sounds like Brittany is maybe just about to leave Sheldon's house
for the evening.
So that's the context you need to know
going into this call.
And the one that I'm going to play you
some clips from
is at a time when I think
Brittany is maybe just about
to leave Sheldon's house
for the evening.
So take a listen
and then we'll talk about it.
Oh my God, I have to tell you something.
What's what?
Polly went to jail.
Polly?
Yeah, he got picked up
yesterday at seven or night.
Huh?
I ain't gonna lose no sleep over it.
Thank you.
That means either way, he's just a skynist or gets more charges?
I have no idea.
Ashley hasn't said anything to me.
Well, I asked her body, but she hasn't responded.
That means if he's in jail, I can get word to him now.
Yep.
I mean, I could have been the first.
Well, no, no, you better, no.
Don't do that right now.
You need to wait a little bit.
Only because when I was up, I don't need anything to come back on me.
I don't need him to get a hair in his ass
because of what he said to me got repeated back to you.
You hear me?
What's up?
I said I don't need him wanting to do some revengeful shit
because something that he said to me got back to you
while he's in there sitting on whatever he's sitting.
It don't matter what was said, period, it all comes out anyway.
It don't matter.
I always find out anything.
It doesn't matter what it is.
This is how it's been.
It was like that with all my baby moms.
I'm not talking like that.
You know what I'm talking about.
Bye.
What's up?
I was telling them to show him to die by.
But no, I can't say what I want to say over the phone.
But there's a reason I don't want you to say anything right now.
What is for me?
I was hanging around.
Eric has a pocket sole lady in pocket.
Okay.
So I don't need anything said right now.
It feels like they're like talking in a code.
I mean, probably.
They know they're being recorded, right?
And I don't know about you, but I feel like there's like some tension there.
Like code or no code.
Like the vibe I get is that Brittany has been hanging out with Eric Ashley and Ashley's boyfriend Pocket,
who is now in jail where Zach is already at.
And it sounds like Britt has something.
maybe some dirt on at least one of them.
And she doesn't want what she has, like, getting back to that person or to someone.
And, like, I don't know.
Maybe this means nothing.
I mean, I definitely sensed something.
Same.
So what's Zach in prison for that?
Also something drug-related.
But, like, seemingly separate, not whatever, like, Pocket was, like, going away for.
Okay.
I don't know.
Maybe Brittany or Zach, like, knew how Pocket, like, ended up getting picked up by police.
Like, could Britt have...
been the one who ratted him out? I don't know. Our reporter Madison tried tracking down
Zach and Pocket hoping that they might remember what the heck she was talking about,
but she has not had any luck reaching them. And of course, we tried reaching out to everyone
named in this episode too, including Eric Scheng. But as of this recording, Eric never got back
to us. And listen, when we asked Ashley straight up, if she is involved or if she knows more,
she said most definitely not.
And I want to point something out that I find, like, pretty odd.
And I'm not sure, like, where the disconnect is, but it's, like, concerning no matter what is going on here.
So in the case file, there is this mention of detectives talking to Ashley about potentially taking a polygraph.
But then there's, like, no info on whether or not they followed through.
So obviously, we asked people, like we were speaking to about this.
Did they hear about the results?
Did it happen?
And Brittany's dad Greg told Madison that St. Joseph County Sheriff's Office told him that both Ashley and Eric ended up taking polygraphs and they passed.
But plot twist.
Ashley told Mads that she never ended up taking one at all.
But wouldn't a past polygraph be good for her?
Like that would like help her out a little bit?
I would think so.
She told us she was supposed to take one.
Like she even went in for it and she spent more than three hours.
being pre-screened, only to ultimately not be tested because the examiner felt like she hadn't
gotten enough sleep. Apparently, like, she had been on the road a lot for work around that time.
And she said that she spent several months trying to coordinate a second exam with a detective,
but then, like, it eventually just, like, died off.
I can't even, like, come up with a reason for any of that to make sense.
Right? Like, is someone in law enforcement so confused that they're, like, imagining polygraphs that never happened?
Or is maybe like Ashley confused about the pre-questions, like the pre-screening?
Maybe they just told her it was like the beginning part, but it wasn't.
I mean, I doubt it.
Like, at least from what I know, and admittedly, like, I don't, I've never seen like all a bunch of polygraphs.
But I think that like they do the pre-screen before you're like hooked up to the machine.
I think you would know if you were taking a polygraph.
Right.
I mean.
This is just like the perfect example in my mind of like this encapsulates the case.
Like we're missing something.
And like the lies don't even like make sense.
If there are lies or is it like everyone's got their wires so cross, I don't even understand the things that are being said.
And yes, I think we are missing a piece.
But I like, I really think someone out there has to have the piece.
So like this is my plug to everyone to reach out to us, tips at audiochuk.com.
Because, Brett, I find that with the stories that have this like kind of local following, people tend to come out of the woodwork with important information.
And no matter which theory you follow, like something just doesn't work here.
And maybe that's because what happened wasn't planned.
I mean, I think there's a real possibility something spiraled.
Maybe tensions that had already been brewing finally boiled over.
Maybe drugs were involved.
It could have been an accident and people panicked afterward.
Some people believe that Mystery Man eventually caught back up with Brittany after she left John's house,
called for help, like went by that second half.
and then like whatever happened next just went horribly wrong.
Others have even speculated that Brittany may have been hit by a car sometime after leaving that
teen's house.
Maybe Mystery Man had called for a ride for them, that person hit her, and then it was covered up.
And honestly, when you remember how dark and foggy those roads were that night, there was like
a little bit of snow plus the possibility of drugs being involved, it's not hard to imagine
how quickly things could have taken a dangerous turn.
Almost every scenario in my mind, though, involves someone else.
Mystery Man hasn't come forward.
So there has got to be a reason for that, right?
Like, if he knows what happened, he had to have gotten a ride out of there from someone with or without Brittany.
I want to know who else was in that area.
I mean, we know detectives didn't even talk to Eric for forever.
Like, did they get his phone records?
Ashley's, JJ's, anybody's?
I would love to know who was in communication with who that night.
Right.
Maybe one of them were even out that way.
I mean, Google doesn't offer geolocation info to police anymore,
but they did for a long time after this case.
I want to know what detectives have and who was in that area.
And as unlikely as it seems, it is possible that there was someone out there
who isn't part of Brittany's circle.
I mean, there was some, like, super-relevant.
strange events that happened, like, out that way after she vanished.
Like, for example, a couple of weeks after Brittany goes missing, a woman in a neighboring
county reported that someone driving a white Cadillac stole gas off her farm.
Seemingly unrelated, right?
Well, the ring cam footage of the event ends up being circulated.
And that's when some people in town start saying that they can hear Brittany screaming
in the background, like maybe she was being held captive by the guys who were in this car.
Even Grandma Vicky reportedly thought that the man who turned out to be the driver of that car resembled mystery man.
But the man later claimed that it was only a friend asleep in the car who he had like startled awake or something.
And deputies did process the vehicle, even recovered blood evidence.
But when testing came back, the samples belonged to two unidentified men, dead end.
Then there was an abandoned property off of, guess where?
Fawn River Road that investigators paid really close attention to.
This was like a place tied to rumors, like basically that after the crash, Brittany had been taken there against her will,
where she was subsequently assaulted, tortured, and eventually killed.
There had also been sex trafficking rumors tied to this house, which I think is important to mention knowing what JJ brought up earlier in that body camp footage.
And what really like fueled this theory around this house was the fact that it burned down via R.J.
Orson, possibly, to try and cover things up? Question mark?
Investigators photographed the scene, searched the property multiple times, even collected evidence, all after the fire.
And they even found women's underwear that looked like it was the kind that Brit wore, like, found near a burn pit.
There was a knife with what looked like possible blood stains in the basement, along with more suspicious stains on the basement floor.
Again, you're thinking like this has to be it.
I guess all of it turned out to be nothing.
Apparently it wasn't actually blood and likely nothing was connected to this case.
And Britt, there is so much more where that came from.
Stuff like this.
If anyone were to want to go down like a deep rabbit hole,
there is this podcast called Hide and Seek, hosted by James Basinger.
He is like deep, deep, deep, deep in this case, has been for literal years.
The guy's done like 50 plus episodes just on Brittany's case.
That's how much there is to this.
So anyone who wants can go take a listen.
Brittany's case was his third season.
He's in a couple now.
I really like the one that he did his first season on Nancy Moyer.
So that's hide and seek.
Go listen.
You can go way deeper.
You'll hear, I mean, so many stories like this.
And like this is the thing about these stories.
Like some of them are so detailed and specific and disturbing that part of me wonders, like,
how could all of this just be made up?
But then there's another part of me.
that wonders like, what if what we're really seeing here is just like an entire community trying to make sense of something horrific after one of their own vanished?
Because sadly, in worlds shaped by instability and rocky relationships and paranoia, trust disappears fast.
People hide things. People protect each other. Stories shift. Rumors spread faster than actual facts do.
And once fear enters the picture, every coincidence starts feeling sinister.
So I keep coming back to the simple things, the Facebook messages that disappeared.
How did Britney's gas receipt actually turn up?
I think somebody out there really does know exactly what happened to Brittany Wallace Shank that day, November 30th, 2018.
And maybe all the accusations and the chaos and the outlandish stories,
just served another purpose entirely.
Maybe it was creating so much noise
that detectives would never find the truth buried underneath it.
But I believe the answers are there.
And I believe that the right person can still get to them.
So if any of our listeners know anything
about the disappearance of Brittany Wallace-Shank,
especially if you recognize the man in the sketches,
which we've also posted to our blog,
you can contact the St. Joseph County Sheriff's Office.
at 269-467-9045.
You can find all the source material for this episode on our website,
crimejunkey.com.
And you can follow us on Instagram at CrimeJunkey Podcast.
We'll be back next week with the brand new episode.
Crime Junkie is an audio Chuck production.
I think Chuck would approve.
